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<patagonicus>
Hmm. I've just realized that I'll need the individual files anyway since I want the systems to use them as their config for nixos-rebuild once they're deployed (basically I want to share the config so I can keep the one for rebuilding on the system the same as when I redeploy them).
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<patagonicus>
http-parser doesn't build due to a bug that has been fixed upstream, but isn't included in any release yet. Should I "backport" the patch for fixing this in nixpkgs or just wait for the next release? (The "backport" is just git format-patch of one commit and adding this as a patch to the nix package).
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<patagonicus>
I just added a wiki page for the HC1&HC2: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM/ODROID-HC1 would be great if someone could take a look at it since it's my first edit on the NixOS wiki. :)
<patagonicus>
Next up is cross compiling instructions for the general Nix on ARM page.
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<makefu>
patagonicus: good first article, thanks for your contribution! patagonicus++
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<patagonicus>
:)
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<patagonicus>
Meh. Crosscompiling the armv7l-multiplatform image fails because "LONG_BIT definition appears wrong for platform (bad gcc/glibc config?)." for btrfs-progs.
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<Ke>
appears wrong?
<patagonicus>
Yeah, I don't know. I'm going back to the known good commit of nixpkgs I have and will try around a bit. Maybe I'll see if I can get something like bash built and then I can see if it builds at head and bisect if necessary.
<Ke>
I haven't been looking into this yet, but don't you get normal packages from caches?
<patagonicus>
armv7l doesn't have an official cache. And cross compiling changes hashes, so the cache is different from natively compiled packages as well.
<Ke>
yes, thought as much
<Ke>
was going to ask about it at some point
<patagonicus>
A bit annoying, because if you cross-compile an installer image, then the first nixos-rebuild will recompile everything from scratch. :D
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<samueldr>
yes, but at the very least, it is understandable why so :)
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<patagonicus>
Yep. Not complaining too much, it makes sense. And it probably wouldn't take that long, once I get my extra HC2s (I think the ETA is Monday).
<patagonicus>
So, very surprisingly: if you use the workarounds for the things that are known to be broken for cross compiling it actually works.
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<samueldr>
you don't say!
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<Jake[m]>
samueldr: is the pinebook pro stuff being built and cached anywhere like on hydra? If not, is there a way to make that happen? I'd be happy to do what need to be done there.
<samueldr>
no, not being built and cached
<samueldr>
a policy decision would need to be made about building non-mainline artifacts for misc. machines
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<noneucat>
hello all!
<noneucat>
out of curiosity, what kind of hardware are people using for native aarch64 builds? i'm currently looking at getting one of pine64's rockpro64 boards to use as a build box but i'm wondering what people are using here
<Ultrasauce>
jetson tx2
<samueldr>
many users are using rockpro64s
<samueldr>
I personally am using an ROC-RK3399-PC, but I wouldn't recommend it more than any other good RK3399 board
<samueldr>
(oh, and hi! 👋)
<samueldr>
easy to acquire, easy to get NixOS going, and fast, not sure there is much better than RK3399 boards right now
<samueldr>
I wouldn't use the community box for anything that ends up on machines I want to trust
<samueldr>
(well, on their storage, e.g. I'm fine putting an SD card built on it on a raspberry pi and then erasing and putting something trustable on the same pi)
<samueldr>
I should maybe try and make a pi4 build the same thing I would for the rk3399 board and see how close their perfs are, but first I'd need to have a non-SD storage solution for both
<samueldr>
(well, my rk3399 board uses a usb drive, but still cheapy flash based which harms perfs)
<noneucat>
i did look into the community box + hosted servers but i think i'd just prefer a local box to hack on haha
<noneucat>
for various reasons
<samueldr>
the community box is helpful in getting the thing built when it fails in long~ish builds
<samueldr>
but I do understand the feeling of keeping builds home
<samueldr>
I'll let you know if it ends up a success or not
<samueldr>
I'm surprised taking the diff of only one file doesn't end up with breakage everywhere
<noneucat>
good news! looking forward to it 👌
<samueldr>
might be easier than building on top of the binutils upgrade pr
<noneucat>
yeah
<noneucat>
if it works out it would be easier
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<samueldr>
thanks for looking into it and figuring that out
<noneucat>
no problem! :)
<Jake[m]>
i've been renting ec2 servers, like a1.2xlarge which cost around 10 cents an hour. Does anyone have an idea of how much faster those are than an rk3399?
<samueldr>
sorry I don't, but expect possibly enough faster, especially if their storage is fast
<noneucat>
i'm curious to see how the new apple silicon machines will perform compared to existing hardware
<samueldr>
compared to server hardware, probably nothing to write home about unless they start *also* optimizing for heavy workloads early on
<samueldr>
for desktop~ish hardware, look at ipad pro cpu benchmarks and compare
<samueldr>
now assume that the DTK is going to be underspecced compared to an equivalent mac mini silly
<samueldr>
(we probably can assume so because apple's DTK for x86 was also underpowered compared to the machines that replaced it)
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