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can you force the commit manually?
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colemickens >
like 'sync' or something?
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matthewbauer >
yeah i think sync does that, so you could do `commit=86400` and only sync at shutdown
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samueldr >
is there a difference with fsync and sync?
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samueldr >
because I would have assumed most software that ends up syncing would sync and that would reduce the pros of that option
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matthewbauer >
fsync/sync would both trigger the "commit" so this could be true
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matthewbauer >
i would think there would be some savings though?
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samueldr >
hopefully
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matthewbauer >
similar caveats apply as with large commit values
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samueldr >
I didn't check, but hopefully we have metrics from the kernel to know
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hexa- >
found a rpi2, so much fun
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hexa- >
setting up the remote builder as we speak :D
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hexa- >
what would be the system type for a rpi2?
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hexa- >
it's armv7l
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fun thing
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samueldr >
late raspberry pi 2 models are actually aarch64, using the same cpu as the raspberry pi 3
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samueldr >
I would like to have one of these on hand to test
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samueldr >
though found no way to be sure what you're buying
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hexa- >
is mainline aarch64 support available for those?
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hexa- >
model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 5 (v7l)
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samueldr >
unknown, but I think it should work
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samueldr >
though yeah, I don't know how common those are
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samueldr >
so that was mostly a useless factoid
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hexa- >
the label on the soc reads model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 5 (v7l)
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hexa- >
bcm2836rifbg
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samueldr >
^ citation
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hexa- >
so I'm probably out of luck
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hexa- >
remote builder be like while setting up the build environment: executing '/nix/store/w8mmqnbx2ybbax6vkbzm2866m03x8nn4-bash-4.4-p23/bin/bash': Exec format error
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hexa- >
i tried system = "armv7l-linux";
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samueldr >
is the running system armv7l? I think raspbian still builds armv6l, but I'm unsure
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samueldr >
from what I can tell, only newark describes it properly on their store page
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samueldr >
for shops geographically sane to order from
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samueldr >
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samueldr >
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samueldr >
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samueldr >
computers-education-maker-boards%2Fraspberry-pi%2Fembedded-single-board-computers-sbc-raspberry-pi
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samueldr >
oh, that's not a good url
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gchristensen >
samueldr: very cool URL, I bet that one won't change :D :D :D
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gchristensen >
(that is a prod towards newark, not to you caring about cool URLs - I am glad you care about cool URLs)
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hexa- >
samueldr: it's running nixos armv7l
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hexa- >
> Linux Wohnzimmer 4.18.6 #1-NixOS SMP Wed Sep 5 07:29:56 UTC 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux
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{^_^} >
undefined variable 'Linux' at (string):306:1
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hexa- >
trying to get that upgraded to something sane
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hexa- >
my remote builder has the qemu-user setup for arm and aarch64
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hexa- >
but i'm getting the exec format error, so I guess one of two things is happening
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hexa- >
a) my system definition for the remote builder is wrong. nix.buildMachines.{...}.system = "armv7l-linux";
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hexa- >
b) qemu-user.arm does not support armv7l, which sounds very unlikely
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hexa- >
oh right, that thing has 1GB of memory
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hexa- >
basically useless then
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samueldr >
as a builder, possibly
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samueldr >
as a target for fun? no
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hexa- >
i'm just doing a rebuild with a remote builder
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hexa- >
and the "machine" craps itself during downloads
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hexa- >
it's only supposed to be a snapcast client
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hexa- >
receive audio via network, dump it to your stereo jack
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samueldr >
probably worthwhile to invest in having it cross-compile and use nixiosk
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samueldr >
(or plain cross-compiling)
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hexa- >
that or invest 35ish euros on an rpi4 with 2gb
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hexa- >
nah, I'd never go for 2gb :<
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hexa- >
60 € for 4GB
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hexa- >
rebuilds on an rpi4 are fun
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hexa- >
interactive
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hexa- >
with a remote builder :p
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hexa- >
the rpi is running some configure script, and prints a new line every ~0.7 seconds
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samueldr >
>> The highlight, to me: 720mA on load (CPU Stress with performance governor).
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hexa- >
so 3.5 Watt under load
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hexa- >
the rpi4 i have needs ~3.8W when idle
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lordcirth >
That's impressive
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hexa- >
oh well, I'm powering the pi through a hifiberry amp2, so numbers might be off
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samueldr >
yeah, sounds not bad
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samueldr >
and amlogic AFAIK ends up with generally acceptable support on the mainline kernels
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samueldr >
I think the main turn-off, from a quick glance, is the lack of firmware storage (e.g. SPI flash)
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samueldr >
so you have to build images with dumb gaps, and espercially for amlogic, can't use GPT
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samueldr >
for some, not sure if it's for all, it looks at the 2nd sector, so 512 bytes in, for the loader program
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samueldr >
>> In the late 1990s, Intel developed a new partition table format as part of what eventually became the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface
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samueldr >
late 1990s
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samueldr >
2020 and we still have "new" hardware designs that can't use GPT
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