<Irenes[m]>
samueldr: I think more primers on this are good
<Irenes[m]>
I think it's important to tell people why they should want security + tinkering
<Irenes[m]>
I hope you write that piece
<samueldr>
yes, and more importantly, to understand the nuance and how it affects the user
<samueldr>
because, in the end, it's the user that's always in charge of their own security
<samueldr>
so they better understand their own
<samueldr>
and know *where* it fails
<Irenes[m]>
yes, absolutely
<samueldr>
I did some searching around and found what is likely a non-limited qualcomm programmer for the xiaomi-lavender (redmi note 7), which means it might be completely openly readable
<samueldr>
I'll have to play with the oneplus3 first and understand how it works, what you can do and how it affects you
<samueldr>
and see afterwards if it is useful in fixing a "bricked" xiaomi-lavender
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<Valodim>
hexa-: I got bluetooth working briefly when I looked at it. never looked at UART (and certainly not both at the same time ;)
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<hexa->
Valodim: got both working right now 🥳
<Valodim>
yay :)
<hexa->
Valodim: just in case you can access your rpi3(?), do you have bluetooth enabled?
<hexa->
in which case I'd be interested if `bluetoothctl list` shows a controller
<hexa->
would be helpful input for the rpi wiki article section
<Valodim>
yeah the btattach is also what I did to get it working. way nicer as a unit file!
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<colemickens>
would nixos managing a dual boot of itself and stock android be a thing?
<colemickens>
I guess maybe if Linux on mobile takes off the Android containery/whatever things might get good enough to suffice.
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<samueldr>
managing a dual boot could in theory happen, but in practice I wouldn't see it working well
<samueldr>
the main reason things like multiboot manager worked was that it exchanged security with convenience by using the userdata partition to hold the system files
<samueldr>
if you have an encrypted userdata, it becomes harder to do
<samueldr>
though it might still be possible
<samueldr>
I think the boot.img would need to be aware of it
<samueldr>
it's a really good question
<samueldr>
hmm, newer devices with boot_as_recovery are less likely to work easily
<samueldr>
as they skip the initramfs
<samueldr>
so you need to have a custom boot image for the android system too
<samueldr>
thinking more about it, I think the safest way for that to happen is if there is multirom boot manager type thing for your device
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<samueldr>
and then we make sure Mobile NixOS can manage being a booted system
<samueldr>
or, that someone implements in the Mobile NixOS stage-1 the requisite hooks to boot an android system
<samueldr>
(probably using kexec)
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