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fuzzypixelz >
in gdm, wm session name are "none+xmonad" for example. What does none stand for?
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nullgemm/ly#193 (by DieracDelta, 51 weeks ago, open): running on nixos
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pushqrdx >
i want to set some dconf settings in config.nix and i am not using gnome
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pushqrdx >
seems like many people complained about this but i can't find a good solution on the interenet
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matthewcroughan >
spacekookie: Heyo, your Ly package is super outdated, I'm taking a look at it now :D
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matthewcroughan >
Making a module for it, must be updated to work at all
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pushqrdx >
is it possible to set nix vm settings, by default it's using too low ram amount
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matthewcroughan >
clever: How do I override the fetchFromGithub function?
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matthewcroughan >
A repo has a non-standard git submodules layout, we need to be able to cd into a directory and run a git command, fetchSubmodules = true; won't work.
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clever >
matthewcroughan: src = fetchFromGitHub { all the args = ...; fetchSubmodules = true; };
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matthewcroughan >
not what I'm after
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clever >
same way you would override any other value, you must fully specify the new value
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matthewcroughan >
clever: what I'm saying is that the repo is silly so I have to run a git command
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matthewcroughan >
I need to set fetchSubmodules to false and fetch them myself
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matthewcroughan >
because fetchFromGitHub won't do it
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clever >
fetchFromGitHub doesnt run git at any point
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clever >
it just downloads a .tar.gz of the commit
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matthewcroughan >
oh, well how come it can't get these submodules?
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clever >
if you set fetchSubmodules=true; it will instead run fetchgit, but you must invalidate the sha256
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matthewcroughan >
just ends up with an empty folder
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ToxicFrog >
Does github's release tarball generator include submodules?
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ToxicFrog >
I don't think it did last time I used it.
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ToxicFrog >
You may need to use fetchGit instead
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matthewcroughan >
Probably not, what would you suggest I do.
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matthewcroughan >
clever: been there, done that, it's not the issue
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ToxicFrog >
Aah, or do what clever said
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »:
https://git.io/JYT5Y
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pushqrdx >
anybody developing or testing configs with nixos vms?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: can you pastebin the expr your using?
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pushqrdx >
having trouble knowing how to set default qemu settings, i want to set more ram
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matthewcroughan >
nvm
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matthewcroughan >
source> fatal: No url found for submodule path 'sub/argoat' in .gitmodules
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matthewcroughan >
oh dear
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supersandro2000 >
there is not gitmodule file
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supersandro2000 >
which is required to clone it
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supersandro2000 >
.gitea....
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supersandro2000 >
really!=?
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clever >
$ nix repl '<nixpkgs>'
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clever >
nix-repl> :b fetchFromGitHub { owner = "nullgemm"; repo = "ly"; rev = "v0.5.2"; sha256 = lib.fakeSha256; fetchSubmodules = true; }
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clever >
fatal: No url found for submodule path 'sub/argoat' in .gitmodules
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supersandro2000 >
.gitmodules is hardcoded
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matthewcroughan >
clever: can we use a phase to `mv .gitea .gitmodules` prior to the build?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: yeah, i'm thinking this just isnt going to work, until you patch things
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clever >
matthewcroughan: that has to be ran prior to the fetch, because you lack network access at build time
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matthewcroughan >
and just turn off fetchSubmodules
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supersandro2000 >
there is no step between fetchfromgit and get the submodules
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matthewcroughan >
oh crap
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supersandro2000 >
I think you would need to double fetch the source
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clever >
or fork the repo, fix that mess, and fetch your fork
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matthewcroughan >
fetchFromGitTea?
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matthewcroughan >
is this for real? :D
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matthewcroughan >
how insane
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matthewcroughan >
looooool
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supersandro2000 >
I am creating a PR
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matthewcroughan >
supersandro2000: you'll have to do it on their gittea
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matthewcroughan >
because their gittea is up-to-date
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matthewcroughan >
Lol, the tarballs don't even have the submodules in it
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matthewcroughan >
This is verifiably whack.
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{^_^} >
nullgemm/ly#279 (by SuperSandro2000, 32 seconds ago, open): Rename .gitea to .gitmodules
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supersandro2000 >
matthewcroughan: you need to tell github to include submodules/lfs IIRC
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supersandro2000 >
matthewcroughan: which gitea?
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supersandro2000 >
you can just fetch my PR because it is the latest tag + the fix
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supersandro2000 >
if you write a comment above it is fine for me
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supersandro2000 >
also fetching from github saves them some bandwidth
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matthewcroughan >
supersandro2000: I'm just wondering how nullgemm fetches it.
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matthewcroughan >
How on earth?
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matthewcroughan >
I couldn't find a way to fetch it with `git submodule`
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l33[m] >
git submodule update.... just fails! :-)
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l33[m] >
is this a gitea meltdown, or developer meltdown..?
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{^_^} >
go-gitea/gitea#568 (by dfrrt5r6uyfrt, 4 years ago, closed): Add support for a .gitea folder
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matthewcroughan >
quite curious about that, unsure what I did wrong
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matthewcroughan >
ah it's not a tag, right.. hmm, so what should the rev be?
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matthewcroughan >
LOL
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matthewcroughan >
So this is how nullgem does it.
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supersandro2000 >
matthewcroughan: just the commit
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supersandro2000 >
well my commit does not work for that
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supersandro2000 >
but it maybe makes the issue clear
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supersandro2000 >
I don't think we should add an extra command for that. it is the first repo that has such problems.
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matthewcroughan >
supersandro2000: source> fatal: No url found for submodule path 'sub/testoasterror' in .gitmodules
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matthewcroughan >
oh no..
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matthewcroughan >
your efforts were in vein :D
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matthewcroughan >
Because those URls don't work, so we need to get it from gittea
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l33[m] >
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
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radvendii >
I'm overriding preBuild in the gcc package, and it seems to be having abslutely 0 effect (it's not even triggering a rebuild), does anyone know why that would be?
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radvendii >
it has a custom buidler.sh, but it calls genericBuild from there, which calls buildPhase which calls the preBuild hook
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radvendii >
the gcc package doesn't set the "phases" variable, and doesn't touch buildPhase or preBuild either in the default.nix file or the builder.sh file
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clever >
radvendii: if its using a builder.sh, it can just entirely ignore the normal phase rules
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radvendii >
it could, but it calls "source $stdenv/setup" at the beginning of the script and "genericBuild" at the end
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radvendii >
and doesn't modify phases, buildPhase, or preBuild anywhere that I can see
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clever >
ah, if it ran genericBuild, then it will follow the normal rules
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radvendii >
yeah, that's what I thought, but it doesn't seem to be :thinking:
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clever >
gcc and other parts of the stdenv are also special, and dont respect overlays
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clever >
because of complex reasons
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radvendii >
that's why all my attempts to overlay haven't been working
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clever >
if you build -A gcc, it will respect the overlay
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clever >
but the stdenv wont use that gcc
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radvendii >
wait but i am building -A gcc
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radvendii >
or rather, my flake has specialPkgs.gcc as the package
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clever >
how is the overlay written? how is it loaded?
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clever >
not sure how that plays into things
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radvendii >
oh, and I should say that if I overload buildCommand it
*does* affect things
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clever >
still new to flakes
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radvendii >
i'm using import nixpkgs { crossOverlays = [ ... ] }
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radvendii >
what's weird is that overloading buildCommand does change it
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radvendii >
but not preBuild
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radvendii >
actually, let's step back a minute
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clever >
can you pastebin the expr?
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l33[m] >
flakes scare me...
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radvendii >
is there a better way to overload how the gcc
*libraries* (in particular libgomp) is built?
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radvendii >
i don't actually need to change anything about gcc itself
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clever >
not sure, ive never had to change just a lib in gcc
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radvendii >
l33[m]: flakes scared me too. my friend bit the bullet first and then helped me learn. once i did though, there's no going back
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radvendii >
one sec, i'll make a minimal working example and make a pastebin for it
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l33[m] >
radvendii: i'm currently studying them.. .and they are starting to make sense..i have a feeling that they are utterly brilliant....
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radvendii >
yeah, i don't really understand how they work under the hood, and there are still a few things I'm not sure how to do with them, but they just kind of... clean up a lot of stuff that used to be all over the place
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matthewcroughan >
oh dear
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radvendii >
it's not even a flake now
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radvendii >
just a normal .nix file
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matthewcroughan >
LOL
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matthewcroughan >
this has a submodule in it with yet another .gitea which needs to be renamed
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matthewcroughan >
o m g
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matthewcroughan >
supersandro2000: doesn't this make you sweat? This is unbelieveable.
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supersandro2000 >
matthewcroughan: I think you manually need to download all sources
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supersandro2000 >
and then symlink them
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supersandro2000 >
or copy
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radvendii >
tpw_rules: WHAT?! I just tested it, and the firefox appimage I produced can be run on older versions of ubuntu! They must only link against older versions of glibc symbols. That's super exciting =D Still not a general solution, but at least firefox works
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supersandro2000 >
and I sweat when I delete a crypto shared library that apt requires to unpack packages
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supersandro2000 >
on production after 4pm on a friday
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supersandro2000 >
the first part actually happened and the last part is worst case factor which luckily did not happen yet
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Raito_Bezarius >
are there people using signal-desktop on unstable? can they run quickly "file ~/.config/Signal/sql/db.sqlite" and report what type of file does it give?
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Raito_Bezarius >
is it like "data" or does it recognize an actual SQLite 3 database?
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radvendii >
SQLite 3 database
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Raito_Bezarius >
damn
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radvendii >
"SQLite 3.x database" to be precise
02:35
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Raito_Bezarius >
then that means there is something very wrong
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Raito_Bezarius >
afaik those databases are supposedly encrypted
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Raito_Bezarius >
using the key inside ~/.config/Signal/config.json
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Raito_Bezarius >
but I'm running into an annoying issue of reimporting my db and it won't read it no matter what
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radvendii >
i mean, i haven't --upgraded in a couple of weeks?
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signalapp/Signal-Desktop#4513 (by eppfel, 27 weeks ago, open): Database startup error: Error: SQLITE_NOTADB: file is not a database
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clever >
Raito_Bezarius: /home/clever/.config/Signal/sql/db.sqlite: data
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Raito_Bezarius >
radvendii: looks like it is not that recent
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Raito_Bezarius >
clever: on unstable?
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clever >
but i havent ran it in a while...
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clever >
-rw-r--r-- 1 clever users 804K Apr 14 2020 /home/clever/.config/Signal/sql/db.sqlite
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Raito_Bezarius >
That might be the reason :>
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radvendii >
clever: did you see the pastebin up above?
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radvendii >
oh, i just meant did you see that I sent it
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radvendii >
no rush
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clever >
didnt see it either, but i see it now
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radvendii >
mmkay, cool
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clever >
radvendii: because your using crossOverlays, it will only affect cross-compiles
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mikeplus64 >
does anybody haev any repos to point to that use node2nix? in particular for webpack built project
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radvendii >
when you use crossOverlays, it sets it into cross-compiling mode
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radvendii >
like, setting buildCommand in the same way does what I would expect
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clever >
radvendii: it only does cross-compiling if you set crossSystem or use pkgs.pkgsCross
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clever >
so its entirely ignoring that overlay, since you didnt request cross compiling
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radvendii >
then why does it block things when I set buildCommand?
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clever >
[nix-shell:~/apps/rpi/lk]$ nix-instantiate '<nixpkgs>' -A gcc
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clever >
[nix-shell:~/apps/rpi/lk]$ nix show-derivation /nix/store/wlmwavdybjr2y0ndjfp4b5nhifn69y70-gcc-wrapper-10.2.0.drv
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clever >
"name": "gcc-wrapper-10.2.0",
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clever >
radvendii: thats not the derivation that built gcc
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clever >
"dontBuild": "1",
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clever >
radvendii: and it has a dontBuild, so it never runs preBuild/buildPhase/postBuild
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clever >
buildCommand overrides all phases, causing it to ignore that
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babbaj[m] >
gg I can't update my system anymore because I cant download vscode from ms
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clever >
babbaj[m]: atomic updates are a double-edged sword, it wont update enless it can do everything at once
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clever >
but ive broken ubuntu systems with the reverse problem, an update partially applied and then stopped mid way
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clever >
nixos is safer, rather then brick itself, it just refuses to update
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radvendii >
clever: oh!
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radvendii >
how did dontBuild get set?
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radvendii >
it's not set in gcc/10/default.nix
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babbaj[m] >
yeah the reason I switched to nixos is because ubuntu decided to completely break everything
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clever >
> gcc.meta.position
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{^_^} >
"/var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/pkgs/build-support/cc-wrapper/default.nix:505"
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clever >
146 dontBuild = true;
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clever >
147 dontConfigure = true;
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clever >
radvendii: because it was set in this nix file
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radvendii >
wow you have shown me some very useful debugging tools today
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radvendii >
thank you
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clever >
thats why i often show how i got to the answr
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matthewcroughan >
supersandro2000: lol, I forked the stuff and fixed it
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matthewcroughan >
source> fatal: No url found for submodule path 'sub/testoasterror' in .gitmodules
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clever >
radvendii: give a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day, set him on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
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clever >
wait, was that how it went? lol
02:48
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matthewcroughan >
but it totally DOES have a url for it
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matthewcroughan >
wonder what's going on
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radvendii >
interesting. this might be even better than i though. i didn't realize I could override cc-wrapper
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radvendii >
but I can override wrapCCWith, which seems to be how it gets called
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radvendii >
oh. except stdenv doesn't use it, it calls cc-wrapper directly
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clever: is there a way to see that meta.position information given just the store path? It's not showing in `nix show-derivation`
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clever >
radvendii: in `nix repl '<nixpkgs>'`
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radvendii >
but what if I don't know what the package is called in nixpkgs, i just know the nix store path
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matthewcroughan >
hahah
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matthewcroughan >
supersandro2000: got it working, how painful
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clever >
radvendii: no way to go backwards from a $out to an expr
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radvendii >
clever: that's what I was afraid of
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radvendii >
the nix store path is gcc-10.2.0
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clever >
radvendii: your only option is a brute-force, compare the $out of every expr
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radvendii >
but clearly it's not from gcc
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clever >
> gcc-unwrapped
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radvendii >
because we just saw gcc gives us gcc-wrapped
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{^_^} >
"<derivation /nix/store/inxm8lrrz6mvk5wh211vdskv90mrs50m-gcc-10.2.0.drv>"
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radvendii >
that's what I thought before, i don't know what convinced me that wasn't correct
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clever >
half the battle, is just memorizing the entire nixpkgs
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clever >
so you automatically know, the unwrapped gcc, is in gcc-unwrapped
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matthewcroughan >
clever: how can I use a c99 compiler in a derivation to compile the program
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matthewcroughan >
?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: there are several extra stdenv's, gcc10Stdenv gcc49Stdenv and so in, you can tab-complete them in the repl
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matthewcroughan >
is there an example derivation of using these? :D
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matthewcroughan >
Hmm.. So C99 is what version of GCC?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: if its a cflag, then you just set an env var like CFLAGS
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radvendii >
oh, this seems silly. I wouldn't bother with /usr/bin/c99, just pass in -std=c99
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radvendii >
clever: is it better to use CFLAGS or NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE? I don't really understand when to use which
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matthewcroughan >
clever: where do I set this envvar in a derivation?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: every attribute of the derivation is an env var
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clever >
radvendii: some packages will overwrite CFLAGS, but they arent aware of NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE so it leaks in anyways
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matthewcroughan >
really? waddahell
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matthewcroughan >
check out pkgs/shells/bash/5.0.nix
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matthewcroughan >
also pkgs/data/misc/tzdata/default.nix
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radvendii >
clever: so NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE is better, but sometimes people set CFLAGS because they don't know that? Just making sure that's what you're saying
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matthewcroughan >
clever: Are you sure you don't just set makeFlags= ?
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clever >
radvendii: depends on the package, some will happily append to CFLAGS or leave it as-is
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clever >
others may just ignore CFLAGS entirely
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clever >
depends on what the Makefile author felt like
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clever >
matthewcroughan: that can someitmes also work, it depends on the makefile
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Raito_Bezarius >
what is the canonical way to replace a buildInput for a specific package?
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Raito_Bezarius >
overrideAttrs (old: { buildInputs = old.buildInputs ++ [ new-package ]; }) has no chance to work, right?
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Raito_Bezarius >
I should do (remove old.buildInputs old-package) ++ [ new-package ]; — but I'm unsure that exist at all
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matthewcroughan >
clever: radvendii pkgs/applications/version-management/rcs/default.nix
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matthewcroughan >
NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE = "-std=c99";
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clever >
Raito_Bezarius: .override lets you replace a package without having to remote it
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Raito_Bezarius >
ha replaceDependency exist
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Raito_Bezarius >
clever: so .override { buildInputs = [ new-package ]; } will just work?
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clever >
Raito_Bezarius: .override { packagename = new-package; }
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Raito_Bezarius >
Thanks clever !
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Raito_Bezarius >
clever++
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{^_^} >
clever's karma got increased to 568
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clever >
that will replace the value coming in via { stdenv, packagename }:
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Raito_Bezarius >
It makes sense
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clever >
so packagename now refers to new-package
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radvendii >
gcc-unwrapped = gcc.cc in all-packages.nix
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radvendii >
i'm assuming overlaying gcc-unwrapped will not change gcc.cc when it's used elsewhere?
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radvendii: if your properly using an overlay, it will be inserted in the middle, and change all references to the thing
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matthewcroughan >
clever: this binary compiles on my arch linux system
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matthewcroughan >
here's my derivation
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matthewcroughan >
any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: what error does it give under nix?
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matthewcroughan >
just fails to compile
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matthewcroughan >
How do I even know how it's calling gcc?
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matthewcroughan >
How do I even find out if it's respecting the makefile?
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clever >
matthewcroughan: the @ here makes make hide the cmd it ran, if you sed that out, then it will be a lot more verbose
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matthewcroughan >
I have got less than no idea what that line is doing :D
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simpson >
matthewcroughan: You clobbered the flags added at line 24, which defines `DATADIR`. The error stems from that not being defined in a macro.
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matthewcroughan >
simpson: without it, and a gcc10 stdenv (which is what I actually have on my arch system), iI get many errors still
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matthewcroughan >
I don't really understand how I'm supposed to trust that the derivation is running the makefile properly
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matthewcroughan >
or how it is calling make
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codygman__ >
I notice that changing my flake.nix input from `override.url = "nixpkgs/master"` to `override.url = "nixpkgs"` gives me a newer version and that confuses me.
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codygman__ >
because `nix flake list-inputs github:NixOS/nixpkgs` and `nix flake list-inputs github:NixOS/nixpkgs/master` give the same commit of nixpkgs.
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simpson >
matthewcroughan: `error: 'DATADIR' undeclared`
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matthewcroughan >
simpson: I have no idea how to fix that.. Hmm
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simpson >
It looks like the original flags, when generated, will define DATADIR using the -D switch to the C compiler. So, rather than clobbering the flags, you'll have to preserve them while adding your own.
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matthewcroughan >
simpson: I'm not clobbering any flags.
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matthewcroughan >
I removed the offending line and still get the errors that I linked you.
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matthewcroughan >
`NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE` is unset
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matthewcroughan >
Oh, are you talking about makeFlags? Ah yes, that's from the previous derivation I'm copying from.
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simpson >
The Make flags turn into C flags via the Makefile's directives. Not sure how to explain this, sorry.
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matthewcroughan >
it passes it to `make`
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matthewcroughan >
build flags: SHELL=/nix/store/w65ydq10abi813fi7d5j7afdcrxj3aqq-bash-4.4-p23/bin/bash FLAGS=-Wno-error CFLAGS=-std=c99 -pedantic -g
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matthewcroughan >
not sure how to pass multiple flags like that
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clever >
matthewcroughan: quotes in quotes
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matthewcroughan >
yeah I tried that then nix dies
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clever >
''FLAGS="-Wno-error -std=c99 -pedantic -g"'' ?
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matthewcroughan >
nix actually excapes them for you
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matthewcroughan >
error: syntax error, unexpected '-'
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matthewcroughan >
if you use double quotes
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clever >
"FLAGS='-Wno-error -std=c99 -pedantic -g'" ?
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matthewcroughan >
clever: ly-master> build flags: SHELL=/nix/store/w65ydq10abi813fi7d5j7afdcrxj3aqq-bash-4.4-p23/bin/bash FLAGS=\'-Wno-error -std=c99 -pedantic -g\'
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matthewcroughan >
passes it as = c 9 9 a c g
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matthewcroughan >
newline per space :D
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clever >
try with NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE then?
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matthewcroughan >
that's already on
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matthewcroughan >
it has no effect
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clever >
and drop FLAGS= entirely
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matthewcroughan >
yes, this has no effect
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matthewcroughan >
well, rather, it does. But the compilation fails.
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clever >
matthewcroughan: run `nix-shell` on the .drv file that failed, then check `env | grep COMPILE`, what comes up?
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matthewcroughan >
wtf
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matthewcroughan >
you can run shells on drvs?
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matthewcroughan >
what does that do?
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clever >
exact same thing as `nix-shell -A foo`
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matthewcroughan >
NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE=-std=c99 -pedantic -g -frandom-seed=7000pjwbp6 -isystem /nix/store/4p2zc0k3mhg2c6cg1b9i1njnkf8xl5k5-libxcb-1.14-dev/include -isystem /nix/store/im1gjz24adc97l8linz1ryrzg0x1gg1l-linux-pam-1.5.1/include -isystem /nix/store/4p2zc0k3mhg2c6cg1b9i1njnkf8xl5k5-libxcb-1.14-dev/include -isystem /nix/store/im1gjz24adc97l8linz1ryrzg0x1gg1l-linux-pam-1.5.1/include
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clever >
but skips the problem of figuring out what the attr name is
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clever >
that also helps when the attr is burried in a let block, and can never be reached
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matthewcroughan >
so does it drop you into the phase that failed?
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clever >
it drops into a new shell, with the same initial env vars
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matthewcroughan >
that's amazing
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matthewcroughan >
so yes, those flags are definitely present in that way
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clever >
hardeningDisable = [ "format" ];
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clever >
matthewcroughan: what if you add this, or maybe "all" to the drv?
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matthewcroughan >
hardeningDisable = [ "all" ]; ?
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clever >
i think so
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matthewcroughan >
"all" fixed it
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matthewcroughan >
wtf is that
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clever >
the hardening flags make unsecure code fail to compile
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clever >
those are security problems, that gcc is protecting you from
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matthewcroughan >
oh dear
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matthewcroughan >
clever: do you recommend marking the package as insecure because of this?
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simpson >
matthewcroughan: `hardeningDisable`
*is* the mark.
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matthewcroughan >
;D
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matthewcroughan >
great, I love Nix.
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Shados >
What's a nice, large thing I can nix-instantiate on both darwin and nixos? Trying to figure out a weird eval slowness issue
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anyone online?
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phalrax >
Hi, I'm using docker.autoprune, but noticed the systemd.timer doesn't set the Persistent option, meaning it won't trigger afterwards if my system was offline during the defined time. Is there some way to edit that timer, can't seem to find any autoprune options that would enable me to do that
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jojosch[m]1 >
phalrax: setting systemd.timers.docker-prune.timerConfig.Persistent = "yes"; inside your configuration should work
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phalrax >
jojosch[m]1: thanks, I'll try it out
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phalrax >
it did the trick, very cool! :)
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my /boot partition is having issues, would it work to unmount /boot, reformat the partition (UEFI), mount it again, and then run nixos-rebuild switch --install-bootloader ?
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to gnome-40 « fixup! fixup! gnome3.gnome-chess: 40.alpha → 40.0 »:
https://git.io/JYILm
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Ke >
jluttine: if you cvan deal with it, I would just strace the thing initiating the stuff, which is nginx, I guess
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Ke >
I guess you could look at pam rules in /etc/pam.d/ and manually replace the nginx one to include some logging
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Ke >
debug option "Turns on debugging via syslog(3)."
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Ke >
also there's audit
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How feasible/sensible would it be for nix build parameters to include -fPIE rather than -fPIC? (because -fPIC disables inlining of externally visible functions in gcc)
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
https://git.io/JYIB3
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Hello all, I've set up an LXD NixOS container according to the two guides in the NixOS wiki. I can log into it, etc, but it seems to forget any configuration changes the LXD container restarts.
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the configuration.nix file is there and `nixos-rebuild switch` works fine
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iceypoi53 >
but it isn't persisted across reboots
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iceypoi53 >
any idea what's wrong?
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I don't personally have experience with it, so I hope someone else has a better answer, but I think that whatever config you need to keep needs to be outside of the container, in container-specific config.
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i see, so containers are fully ephemeral using nixos?
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I'd say the ephemerality is down to the container technology, rather than nixos, as people do successfully run long-term nixos installs. (But I've never tried or read the wiki nixos container guides.)
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iceypoi53 >
basically I use LXD containers as VMs. Not so much as services.
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iceypoi53 >
Create a container, and then do stuff inside of it as opposed to manage from the outside
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iceypoi53 >
works fine for ubuntu guests
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o1lo01ol1o >
builder for '/nix/store/2zk2mn864ryfg894h3254s99miry55np-python2.7-pyOpenSSL-19.0.0.drv' failed with exit code 1
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ghusbands >
I see. If your ubuntu guests are successfully keeping data and your nixos ones aren't, that's certainly odd. When I use containers, I try very hard not to keep any data
_inside_ them, as being able to rebuild them on a whim is important to me (and well supported by containers and nix)
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Why is cabal2nix pulling in a pyopenssl version that fails to build?
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o1lo01ol1o >
this is happening on the nixos latest docker image
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o1lo01ol1o >
as well as nixpkgs/cachix
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iceypoi53 >
ghusbands, yeah that makes a lot of sense for services / servers. For me it's a convenient way to have a linux dev machine in one case and unifi controller in the other. As I don't like having tons of open ports on the host.
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FRidh >
why is it pulling a python2 version
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o1lo01ol1o >
I do not know!
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s1341_ >
how can i find the output diretories (in nix-store) of a package?
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{^_^} >
obsidiansystems/obelisk#836 (by kwanghoon, 8 weeks ago, open): Install failure
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supersandro2000 >
s1341_: nix-instantiate --eval -A git-lfs.outPath
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supersandro2000: what about for multi-output derivations?
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how to solve default.nix problem when starting a nix-shell?
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supersandro2000 >
Guest57260: ?
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supersandro2000 >
what problem?
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s1341_: out should always contain all of them combined
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s1341_: you can also get the outPath of a different output like
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nix-instantiate --eval -A git.doc.outPath
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supersandro2000: ??
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JJJollyjim >
oh wrong tab completion i think?
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JJJollyjim >
matrix-appservice-irc whyy
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JJJollyjim >
ugh why has my name reverted to guest again
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s1341_ >
thanks supersandro2000
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JJJollyjim: I don't understand your question
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JJJollyjim >
I'm saying you @ ed the wrong person
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JJJollyjim >
Somebody else asked a question
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JJJollyjim >
i haven't posted in this channel for weeks, until you mentioned me
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JJJollyjim >
you want Guest50602, I was a different guest number (due to a matrix appservice bug that doesn't set my nick correctly)
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(Also, Guest50602 already left the channel lol, hence the wrong completion)
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I'm interested in hearing how people use IRC: Do you run the client on a server within a terminal multiplexer or use Quassel or something else? What's your preferred client?
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dotlambda: I run ZNC on one of my server and I connect to it from weechat
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Question, if I run Nix as a package manager on Mac, can I use a tool like this?
https://github.com/nix-community/nixos-generators or does it require NixOS? most likely I need NixOS but I know so little about NixOS and Nix that maybe there is another way :) Thanks!
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i have weechat in screen on a stable remote machine. once in a while i look at it from glowingbear
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dotlambda >
gianarb: But that's not optimal if you want to access IRC from different clients, is it? I switch between different laptops regularly.
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dotlambda > that's what ZNC is great for
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tpw_rules >
gianarb: that's probably difficult to do on mac because it's not linux
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I love quassel. central server component, multi-platform client that syncs to it
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I'll +1 on Quassel
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I wasn't a big fan of the desktop client at first, coming from HexChat, but quickly got over it
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dotlambda: I've been using weechat in tmux via mosh on a server forever
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dotlambda: if you use android you can use the relay feature to use weechat on mobile as well which is neat (although you need to use vpn or something the protocol is unencrypted afaik)
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[nixpkgs] @orivej-nixos pushed commit from @orivej to master « clementine: fix build by using protobuf 3.14 »:
https://git.io/JYIx0
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dotlambda: I have never user irssi, but thanks I might check it out someday
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hope you can relay a weechat client to weechat soon enough
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hi. i'm using the extra-sandbox-paths to map a directory into the build env, but the derivation's meson -based install script complains that it cannot access the dir.... any tips?
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nevermind... it didn't have a+w...
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abathur >
<3 domenkozar[m]
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{^_^} >
domenkozar[m]'s karma got decreased to 38
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{^_^} >
Wait no, it got
*increased* to 40
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acowley_ >
Can somebody help me track down where the environment variable NIX_CC_WRAPPER_TARGET_HOST_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu is used?
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sterni >
{^_^} out here pranking ppl
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acowley_ >
It turns out I need it in one place, but I'd like to learn more to see if I can move it further up the package chain.
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yea tpw_rules ok I will do it from NixOS :D
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Are scopes documented anywhere or do I need to look through nixpkgs?
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The definition of `newScope` and `callPackage` has some docstrings; see lib/customization.nix.
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Er, *lib/customisation.nix, rather.
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Guest32 >
is nixos bloated?
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Bloat is in the eye of the beholder
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red[evilred] >
It's no busybox
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I don't know about NixOS but after that lunch I'm definitely bloated
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exarkun >
What were NixOS's annual methane emissions for '20 Q4?
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exarkun >
annualized
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exarkun >
NixOS is a non-profit right, this is was reported on some form to someone?
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gchristensen >
fascinating question
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Guest32 >
it's not bad, but base install boostraps a lot of things I see. Still better than Ubuntu etc. A bit bloater than arch,void,gentoo. The reason is I see bunch of systemd services enabled and I don't know if one of these things are causing my firefox issue. When starting with barebones distro it's a bit easier to debug. Just sayin
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Guest32: Oh you're asking about software
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I don't think a minimal NixOS install even has networking
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A few days ago I built NixOS without it even having coreutils
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exarkun lol
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aaronjanse >
But I definitely agree that bloat is in the eye of the beholder. I'm generally strongly against the term
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aaronjanse what is rcu scheduling process I see on minimal nixos installation? something cpu related?
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I have no idea what you're talking about. You're probably going to have to ask someone else
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{^_^} >
#106018 (by eduardosm, 15 weeks ago, open): Short-timed periodic freezes in Firefox
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But unless you're doing embedded, I don't think these things should be a concern
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aaronjanse sometimes I get rcu schedulling jiffies something something error on boot, sometimes
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Guest32: It's probably more useful to describe your Firefox problem than it is to try to find out how "bloated" NixOS or what a random system process you saw is for
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{^_^} >
#106018 (by eduardosm, 15 weeks ago, open): Short-timed periodic freezes in Firefox
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exarkun >
Guest32: Cool. Can you add some more details to the ticket?
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Guest32 >
exarkun other distros, arch, gentoo, void didn't have this issue (tried them). Something nixos related here (I also tried firefox-bin and other versions)
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exarkun >
Describe your system configuration in sufficient detail such that someone else can reproduce the problem
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Guest32 >
exarkun I don't have github accont, I asked here before they couldn't replicate the issue. But some people have it as you see in Github issue. for some people kde/sddm worked, for some gnome/gdm, xfce-session fixes the issue, but WHY? can it be done without xfce-session
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exarkun >
I have no idea why. I'm just trying to nudge you in a direction more likely to help resolve the problem.
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exarkun >
If you don't have a github account and don't want to have a github account, you can probably provide the details here and someone will post them for you.
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exarkun thanks, I get what you mean, but info is laid out, nobody knows why :D
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What is your configuration.nix and nixpkgs version?
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Guest32: Guessing at why with an issue that manifests like that usually requires that someone with debugging skills manages to reproduce it. I think it's unlikely that someone else will just guess it, without prior knowledge of the issue :)
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Guest32: Once someone figures it out, it's another story.
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Guest32 >
exarkun I tried with default configuration.nix (only added xmonad + firefox), nixos 20.09 stable
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exarkun >
Guest32: Can you be more precise than that? Put your whole actual configuration.nix on, eg, codepad.org
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srhb I figured out, xfce4-session command fixes it, but don't know what is going behind the scenes, checked logs etc, nothing
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Guest32 >
exarkun ok just a sec
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srhb >
Guest32: That sounds relevant :)
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exarkun >
Guest32: Along with the output of ... `sudo lspci -vvv`? and `sudo dmidecode` I guess
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exarkun >
(seems like there must be a guide, somewhere, that tells you what system info to include in a bug report)
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,channels
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Largest Nix channels: #nixos, #nixos-dev, #nixos-chat, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-security, #nixcon, #nixos-officehours, #nixops, #haskell.nix, #nix-darwin, #nixos-de, #nixos-emacs, #nixos-on-your-router, #nixos-nur, #nix-lang, #nixos-fr, #nixos-systemd, #nixos-borg, #nixos-wiki
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Hi, I built a local copy of nix and was using it to bootstrap the stdenv and install a proper nix with the command "nix-env --iA nix -f ~/nixpkgs", everything built but tests for the last drv to build, nix, failed because it is trying to use "unshare" but the cluster i am on does not have user namespaces. I have sandbox disabled in my nix.conf, but it looks like the built nix is still trying to use them. Do you know how to pass,
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tmward123 >
through nix-env, the configure flag "disable-libseccomp-sandbox" to the build of "nix" so I can get it to install?
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it's plain config generated from nixos-generate config
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exarkun dpaste.com/CN5LH6ZZG
https://bpaste.net/T5VA dpaste.com/HUT2NADMU here it is, wgetpaste was uploading but not returning links to me I guess
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exarkun all good?
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aaronjanse it might be hardware issue, but I guess nixos does something differently, other distros work fine, and I tested live environment (gnome) in 3 different machines, all have same stutter in firefox (in live mode)
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do you mean firefox randomly refusing to accept input for a second or so?
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especially when making a new tab?
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Guest32: ^
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tpw_rules yesssss
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i seem to recall there being some problem based on firefox checking if it's the default browser
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tpw_rules also if you check scrolling in preferences, you will see lag
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tpw_rules it's checked as default browser according to xdg and firefox
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exarkun what now?
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i am running a debian server with nixpkgs and i need to make mercurial (hg) available for network use which means hg needs to be under /usr/local/bin
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so my crazy solution is to link /usr/local/bin/hg to the nix store :)
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ie: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 66 Mar 23 12:38 hg -> /nix/store/3ibqdc3b73wray4zh8vb51ny6cmiv9b5-mercurial-5.4.2/bin/hg*
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I'm getting a timeout from prev.fetchFromGitHub inside an overlay, the assembled link downloads the tarball normally outside nix, what could be the reason? Multiple machines do this so it's probably nix sandboxing something in a way I don't understand
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Guest3224: can you set browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser preference to false in about:config?
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it's unclear from the code if that will help. but i am curious
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where in the docs should i be reading to do this properly?
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i'm a bit lost
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cm2: what does "available for network use" mean?
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it's a mercurial server
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so other machines in the network hg pull/push to it
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i'm not familiar with mercurial. does that boil down to sshing and running 'hg'?
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tpw_rules: yes.
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does it always use the full path?
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you can install mercurial into the ssh user's profile if the ssh command is just `hg`
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tpw_rules nope, didn't help. I think nixos maybe misses something with xorg package, overall graphics seem iffy (nouveau is installed, works before in other distros). like for example when switching between alacritty and firefox, you can sometimes see slight broken drawings (small glitch type)
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or nouveau driver is faulty. Something is missing, since xfce4-session command fixes it.
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it happened to me with the nvidia driver. maybe firefox doesn't understand how to set the browser under xfce so it doesn't try
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tpw_rules so I should try to set it as NOT default browser?
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tpw_rules: true. thanks. i guess exposing a users store like this is a recipe for disaster.
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cm2: does hg always ssh into the same account? or is it based on who is requesting?
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tpw_rules Ima try browser benchmark
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tpw_rules: it's the same account
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Guest32: it looks like firefox runs `xdg-settings check default-web-browser firefox.desktop`
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tpw_rules: a generic repo for devs
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cm2: then if this is a multi-user nix install, i would just su to that user and install hg. be sure to upgrade it periodically
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tpw_rules yes, that
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Guest32: what does that return? does it take a long time?
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tpw_rules: that's what i am going to do. thanks.
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tpw_rules you mean xdg command? it returns yes. benchmark gonna take a long time, (online service) so I closed the tab
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Guest32: is programs.dconf.enable = true; in your nix config? can you try to put it there?
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sure just a sec, then?
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i installed with nix-env that's ok I guess?
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firefox itself? yeah probably?
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are you on nixos?
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tpw_rules yes, installed dconf with nix-env was lazy to edit conf.nix
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i don't think that will work
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because nix-env doesn't set up the nixos module i don't believe
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tpw_rules oh ok
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(lxappearance:22538): Gtk-WARNING **: 16:52:43.984: Could not load a pixbuf from /org/gtk/libgtk/theme/Adwaita/assets/bullet-symbolic.svg.
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This may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be found
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tpw_rules this is relevant too maybe? different program but firefox uses pixbuf I think
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tpw_rules I need to logout, brb
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tpw_rules dconf installed, how do I remove the one in nix-env
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nix-env -ir or something
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tad-lispy: i have an example
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Aha?
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But that's GitHub, right?
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Thanks, but I think my problem is GitLab CI specific.
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oh, misread. then I am not sure
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is your cachix signing key in?
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NP. Thanks.
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tpw_rules .
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is there a way to "pick" and stdenv for compilation with nixpkgs? I tried overlays = [(self: super: { stdenv = super.gcc49Stdenv; })]; but that just gets me infinite recursion detected
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Guest82: i think i missed a bunch of stuff with the network rebooting
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hmmm
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tad-lispy: did you run that before calling nix build on CI?
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<domenkozar[m] "tad-lispy: did you run that befo"> You mean did I push to cachix? Yes. And even if I ran same job again, it still builds from scratch.
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tad-lispy: where do you see it's building things btw?
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Well, it doesn't print anything, but I see it takes awful lot of time.
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is there a way i can specify the amount of ram a nixos qemu vm gets?
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the defult nix-build gives it 300M which is too low
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talking about this nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A vm
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It will run for about 8-9 minutes still.
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it would be great to print what is happening so that we see what gets built and what fetched
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in nixpkgs, `openssl` is defined as `openssl_1_1`
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so if I make an overlay that changes `openssl_1_1`, then `openssl` should magically change too, right?
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(but seems not to have, otherwise I surely wouldn't be asking...)
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exarkun: I think so, yeah. If you're asking the obvious current context, then from #nixos-security:
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11:02 <gchristensen> Raito_Bezarius: it is still working its way through hydra, we applied the patch about 4 hours ago. usually distros aim to get thes eout the door in 7 days, we'll have ours done quite soon
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exarkun: Yes indeed.
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I have a super old nixpkgs pin so I gotta patch this one in on my own
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exarkun: Are you sure openssl_1_1 is openssl in yours? (and why not just overlay openssl directly?)
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The hash is wrong (copied from old openssl_1_1 derivation and twiddled to make it bogus)
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A bunch of stuff got recompiled, though, and no hash mismatch error
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and I still have the old 1.1.1
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exarkun: What is your version of nixpkgs?
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exarkun: You also seem to have intended to override src, but haven't
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(I think that's what you tried at least)
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Hm okay I guess I better look at the upstream derivation a little harder
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exarkun: Oh, I guess you thought it would propagate pname and version into src automatically or something like that
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working from 353333ef340952c05332e3c271dff953264cb017 fwiw
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exarkun: Spoiler: Wouldn't that be nice! But no. :)
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exarkun: You'll have to redefine src.
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been too long since I had to do any nix packaging I guess :)
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would be nice if upstream exported `common` wouldn't it?
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exarkun: It's sort of the thing that everyone expects to happen but no one can justify why it would happen when you look at it. :P
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exarkun: Yeah!
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exarkun: FWIW, while it's too late for this go-around, this is part of why I prefer private forks of nixpkgs to overlays. There's a size penalty, but I get not just full customization, but also the ability to track and rebase my changes using a standard workflow. Even if I'm not upstreaming a particular commit, it's way easier to rebase it than to try to reverse-engineer the overlay from 6mo ago~
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or ... is this what makeOverrideable is for?
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simpson: yea I see how that could be better
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someday I might be able to update my base nixpkgs version and then I can try a different strategy...
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oh no. something does expect openssl.override to exist. but it doesn't.. wat. :/
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exarkun: In case I was unclear, your approach with overrideAttrs was fine, but you
_need_ to redo src
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Nevertheless i'm also getting the `warning: Git tree '/builds/...' is dirty` in my build's output ...
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But the next build is then using all configured caches and pulling from them
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jojosch[m]: What's the question again?
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was helping here :)
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error: syntax error, unexpected '!', expecting ')', at (string):492:4
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srhb: But I looked at openssl/default.nix some more and there's a bunch of other stuff that seems derived from parameters to common
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exarkun: That's OK, you're operating on the result of calling common
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exarkun: (when you're using overrideAttrs)
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Maybe I should stop the scope creep and not change anything except src
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and name and version
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exarkun: Yeah :)
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I was looking at turning off docs too
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Hm, ok. I was hoping to reuse the build from my laptop. jojosch
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I guess I could do the same locally.
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Got a simple Nix language question but can't find the answer. I have a list and want to filter out any elements that are in a second list.
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spacetato: thanks!
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ariutta: np
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#115885 (by MatthewCroughan, 2 weeks ago, open): fioctl: init at v0.14.1
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tad-lispy: i updated the gist - when running `make cache` in after_script the store-path-pre-build was being overridden and nothing pushed to cachix. Now the expected paths will be pushed.
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this is not nixos related but i fucked up really bad and ran nix install commands on my main drive and accedintally formatted and mkfs it
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and i am literally panicking rn as this drive had everything
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so can anybody here help with that or recommend somewhere i can ask for help on irc
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can't find a data recovery related channel
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pushqrdx: was it mkfs.ext?
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or some other fs?
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the partition that was formatted had macos (apfs) on it and it gparted/mkfs from the manual on it by accedint
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the drive*
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but what filesystem did you write over the apfs part?
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what command did you run / which gparted settings did you choose?
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spacetato ext4
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and fat for boot
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but you wiped over apfs
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if i lose this data i am literally fu****
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spacetato >
without extensive knowledge of apfs, I would say just unmount the new parts and see if you can get autopsy to find anything..
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I also looked for data recovery channels and couldn't find anything though
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spacetato were you able to recover anything or was it a dead end?
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pushqrdx: I have used autopsy to recover stuff before, but when I said "I also looked for data recovery channels" I meant just now, for you
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it's even more screwed since i ran nix make config and it wrote the /etc stuff...
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pushqrdx: Before you do anything, consider how badly you want that data back. If you want it back a lot, consider not doing anything at all until you have a bit-by-bit clone somewhere, or you've talked to a recovery specialist. Doing anything in a panicked state is likely to worsen everything. (You probably already have had these thoughts, but just in case)
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pft still makes no difference to openssl in actual use
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exarkun: What do you have now?
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srhb this is the last 5 years of my life + active work related data to say i am screwed if i lose this isn't even enough
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pushqrdx: Then I would do nothing and call the professionals right away.
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and setup backups next time :(
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srhb++ pushqrdx: I don't want to be overly optimistic, but this might not be the end of the world. DON'T PANIC. Look up a local professional that you can trust. Good luck.
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srhb's karma got increased to 145
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Meh it's because I can't actually rely on that NIX_PATH expression, isn't it
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exarkun: Indeed, that sounds like if it'd get used it'd not have the overlays anyway
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exarkun: You can drop the outer rec and the `openssl` override too.. it'll propagate.
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Rest looks good :)
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When did we break morph I wonder...
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(For your version, that is...)
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DBCDK/morph#141 (by cole-h, 10 weeks ago, open): nix: add config file to NIX_SSHOPTS
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gchristensen: Looks reasonable. I'll try and remember to bring it up tomorrow.
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<pushqrdx "this is not nixos related but i "> the first thing is not to panic! unmount the drive. get another drive of the same size and dd an image of it so you can work on that rather than delete more data on the drive. You can use something like photorec to recover files , however i'm not sure if it support apfs... just don't panic!
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> System clock synchronized: no
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> NTP service: active
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error: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting ')', at (string):492:26
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No really, what am I doing wrong?
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colemickens: There's a race condition in systemd-timesyncd where it'll get stuck if it fails initially to... look up the ntp server, if I remember right
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colemickens: If restarting it helps, that's probably the problem
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colemickens: Wait no, the problem as with ipv6 addressing.
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" Network configuration changed, trying to establish connection."
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timesyncd status^
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lets give 'er a restart
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lol, now the log is empty and time still not synced
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colemickens: wat. :)
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colemickens: Can you dump timedatectl timesync-status
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(Especially server and pol interval)
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srhb: ^
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OK, so it has failed to look it up
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Are you using systemd-resolved too?
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DNSSEC failing all over the place due to datetime issues.
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I didn't put it together in the full circle.
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There's a race condition in systemd-timesyncd :P
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lmao time to go outsiiiiide.
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I think it's fixed in the next version of systemd
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thank you srhb :)
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fixed as in, timesyncd gets a free pass without DNSSEC
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this is why I have one of the NTP pool servers in /etc/hosts
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That's a good fix :)
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(it appears, fortunately, that the crashing was unrelated, turns out this is the picky pi4 and the psu was not to its liking)
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Neat, just an environment nss override...
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I know it's just how things go but I'm surprised this hadn't been hit before.
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Combining all of networkd+resolved+timesyncd is just littered with bugs all over the place currently
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They're mostly fine in isolation
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At least it's a fundamentally better design than the scripting madness so it'll get better fast I'm sure :)
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I feel like with systemd, etc. we will get dhcpcdd
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Well, arguably not a bug I guess... just a footgun.
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eyJhb: Do you mean networkd as a dhcp server? That's already a thing.
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srhb: I have just been fidling with networkd today, and I think they should call their dhcp client daemon for dhcpcdd :D Just because
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Also, when speaking about bugs. Also seems like it is missing some features here and there. But hopefully they will soon catch up with everything. Hopefully I am just a complete idiot at networkd, and somebody ( andi- atm.) can show me the magic :D
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I am okayishly happy about switching to it?
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I still wind up in cases where I plug in a usb wifi adapter and basically have to manually make a drop in to get dhcp for it after iwd configures it
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(an artifact of not having wildcard "useDHCP" for networkd, I think)
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I actually don't let it handle wifi.
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srhb: Do you have any wifi magic you use then?
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Nope, plain old networkmanager.
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Kinda annoyed at nmtui sometimes
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eyJhb: I don't love iwctl completely either but nmtui was part of why I was happy to leave
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colemickens: I think I have checked it out before.
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But! Seeing as, haha, covid-19, I don't do much random WiFis anymore :D
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colemickens srhb , have you switched to nftables as well?
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On some but not all machines.
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Really want to completely ditch iptables. Any issues you ran into when switching srhb ?
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Too many tools relying on iptables basically :)
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Ah. I am guessing this is worse than/more than the tools that rely on sudo
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Because that sucks as well :p
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Wonder if podman supports nftables instead of iptables
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eyJhb: what do I have to do to switch to nftables?
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I'm always down for bleeding edge.
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colemickens: I am guessing, disable anything networking.{firewall,nat,allowed{udp,tcp}}, and then write nftable rules for it instead :D
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srhb: might be better to ask :p
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I think the firewall will work at least with the iptables compat layer
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I do write rules from scratch though
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I have a weird iptables rule where I mark packages, so I can force them through my VPN. I really have no idea on how to tackle that one (translating it)
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I know this is somewhat silly... I'm writing a config file for sxhkd and bspwm in nix: I have a bspwmrc.nix file that evaluates to a path to /nix/store/HASH-bspwmrc
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but these file are owned by root and I'm not sure if `xserver.windowManager.bspwm.configFile` accepts them
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^ that is generated with `writeScript`
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should I not write config files into the store?
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Hello, how can I understand why a package is being built? For example I want to install herbstluftwm and it is currently compiling spidermonkey for obscure reason (making me download 1.2G and store 4.5G of data, all for a small WindowManager..)
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beww: nix-tree $(nix-instantiate -A herbstluftwm)
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actually you need both spidermonkey 68 and 78
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supersandro2000 >
the docs need asciidoc which needs fop which needs openjdk which needs gconf which needs polkit which needs spidermonkey 78
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asciidoc doesn't need java
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there's a python and a ruby implementation
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oh my... thank's a lot
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also asciidoc needs dblatex which needs inkscape which needs glib networking which needs libproxy which needs spidermonkey 68
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it might not be cached right now because the openssl bump
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this is crazy.. but even then, the issue is not just is it cached or not, the trail of dependencies is ugly, if you need all that just to build some poor little docs..
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bougyman: fops needs it...
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maybe we should disable fop/java by default
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for nix-instantiate I must be in a nixpkgs repo? I tried running these from an unrelated repo without success: "nix-instantiate nixpkgs#herbstluftwm" or "nix-instantiate -A nixpkgs.herbstluftwm" or "nix-instantiate -E '<nixpkgs>' -A herbstluftwm" without success
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beww: You missed a good combination: nix-instantiate '<nixpkgs>' -A herbstluftwm
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is there no way to get the tree
_without_ instantiating the expression?
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you know why the asciidoc is so big?
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because it's still building the world right now..
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beww: Yes, but it's not necessarily easy because you the derivation is a normalized form that is easy to query while nix expressions are messy and free-form.
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beww: The instantiation is still building?
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also the download is the amount it needs to get at least
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it can be slightly higher
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Ah no, the instantiation took more time than I though, and I though it was blocked by the build in progress in another window, waiting a few more seconds gave me the drv..
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beww: Ah, good.
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great, now I'm building ghc to get ultimately nix-tree x) At least I don't have to do this by hand
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beww: You're
_building_ ghc?
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beww: What nixpkgs commit are you even on :P
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I am trying to automate a NixOPS deploy with Gitlab CI
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I can deploy with nixops from local
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and I can ssh to the target machine from the CI server both as root and as gitlab-runner
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but I get could not connect to ‘root@104.131.28.246’, retrying in 1 seconds...
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srhb: aah yes well an old commit of 20.09 I guess, didn't update in a long while
_shit_ (I'm re-testing Nix after a long pause)
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beww: Yeah, it sounded weird
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viric >
has anyone seen this?
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network-local-commands-start[13804]: Another app is currently holding the xtables lock. Perhaps you want to use the -w option?
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(I have some iptables commands there) likely this happens very rarely, but happens
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beww: Normally asciidoc-full shouldn't be that big an issue.
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beww >
srhb: I'm trying to nix-channel --update, see how it goes, I'm on NixOS do I need to do something specific after that channel update to be able to use the new one? (for adhoc nix shell or rebuilding my os
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beww: If you're on a default channel setup (that is, only one channel, which root owns, called nixos) that should be all.
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just make sure you're aware that `sudo nixos-rebuild`... will use a different set of channels from `nix-build ...`
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beww: ^
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beww: If you have user channels... Well, get rid of them, they'll confuse things :)
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beww >
no user channels for me. I really want to move to flakes now, everything will be obvious then
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grins
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beww++
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beww's karma got increased to 1
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beww: It does help with.. clarity, in some regards.
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hmm it still wants to build ghc.. grr
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beww: And you've confirmed that only root has channels, and updated with sudo nix-channel --update?
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ah but I'm using nixFlakes version of nix, meaning that `nix shell nixpkgs#nix-tree` does use flakes from the registry argh..
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srhb >
What does that even refer to. master?
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nix-channel --update should show a warning when it affects no channels.
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* beww
is reading moar docs
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beww: I'm fairly sure that's master and I have no idea who thought that was a great idea. :)
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beww try: nix shell github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable#nix-tree
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I have a good number of default flakes in the registry, any idea where they're coming from? (nix, nixops, nixpkgs, nickel, templates, hydra, etc...) I'd have though I had to add those I want manually
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I think relying on the registry is just going to be channels over again -- I wouldn't do it -- specify at least a branch for one-offs :)
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srhb: yes that my fear as well, if the registry is just a shiny name for channels, we should try to avoid it, I don't even understand why it is pushed for use..
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Probably exactly to reimplement channels in some sense for people who like them
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But yeah, it seems to me to suffer from all the same problems
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"warning: "_WERROR" redefined" has anyone seen this error before? I am compiling a bootloader with nix and on nixos 20.03 where gcc was version 9.2 it builds fine but now with gcc9.3 on 20.09 I get this warning
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and I also later get errors about "unknown mnemonic"
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beww: But with new enough versions of nix that branch syntax (slash) will work fine for one-offs
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How would I go about creating a zfs disk image in a nix derivation? Obviously it will require a VM, so I'm wondering if I could do it with any of the VM related functions provided by nixpkgs.
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elvishjerricco: one min
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elvishjerricco: this creates a zfs ami, gchristensen has also done something with it
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Neat, thanks
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gchristensen: did you get anything done with your zfs stuff?
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
https://git.io/JYt1X
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gchristensen: nice
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beww++
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colemickens >
re: registries
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the global registry from the repo srhb mentionned is not disabled though, so it's still leaking some flakes with an 'unknown' / 'unpredictable' bound, but it's better than the default
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setting `flake-registry`' nix option to a garbage URL might remove the default global flake entries
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