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chloekek >
Is it possible to skip installation of rust-docs with Mozilla’s rust overlay?
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jtojnar >
ldlework: we do not even have gstreamer 0.10 on unstable
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ldlework >
I am pretty sure I am running on nixos-unstable (thanks to gchristensen)
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{^_^} >
#96939 (by jtojnar, 26 weeks ago, merged): gstreamer: remove legacy version
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cole-h >
channels strikes again...
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ldlework >
jtojnar: well I am not specifically installing gstreamer, but pgadmin
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ldlework >
also I'm not using channels, but nixos-unstable tag/branch from git
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ldlework >
which I pull on from time to time
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ldlework >
Date: Wed Feb 24 18:30:23 2021
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cole-h >
/nix/store/21r9dxdkh1xxihjpc4axf6rcqq375h5m-nixos-20.09pre239318.c59ea8b8a0e
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jtojnar >
pgadmin on nixos-unstable should definitely not pull legacy gst
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cole-h >
this store path disagrees
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jtojnar >
since it is not there
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cole-h >
Date: Thu Aug 20 19:08:02 2020 +0200
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Does anyone run cockroachdb on NixOS that can help me with the certs dir? Apparently, even if I set the directory to 777, cockroach is unable to open the directory.
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Why does 'nix-build --no-build-hook -A hello' error out with unrecognised flag '--no-build-hook' if --no-build-hook is listed in the manpage?
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »:
https://git.io/JqTAw
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NieDzejkob: because the man page is out of date. use --builders ''
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it seems to have been removed from the source in master at some point, though; I'm not finding it there
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abathur >
(the flag doc)
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ah, nevermind; I guess git grep is relative
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> python3Packages.defusedxml.meta
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{^_^} >
{ available = <CODE>; broken = <CODE>; insecure = <CODE>; isBuildPythonPackage = <CODE>; name = <CODE>; outputsToInstall = <CODE>; platforms = <CODE>; position = <CODE>; unfree = <CODE>; unsupported =...
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hexa- >
> python3Packages.pyyaml.meta
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{^_^} >
{ available = <CODE>; broken = <CODE>; description = "The next generation YAML parser and emitter for Python"; homepage = "
https://github.com/yaml/pyyaml "; insecure = <CODE>; isBuildPythonPackage = <C...
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supersandro2000 >
hexa-: can I help you with something?
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supersandro2000 >
you aren't in a review-shell and wonder why meta.broken is broken?
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hexa- >
supersandro2000: I was just wondering what happens when meta isnt defined, like in defusedxml
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hexa- >
domenkozar[m]: cachix is returning http 500 rn
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domenkozar[m] >
hexa-: upgrading db, should be up now
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hexa- >
domenkozar[m]: thanks alo
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supersandro2000 >
when actual people use your stuff and start noticing problems :D
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Hurttila >
Do you know of any blogs, tutorials or examples on how to setup your nixos system configurations to be imported from eg github? I've seen bits and pieces but nothing comprehensive and can't really make sense of it.
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Ke >
you can just fetchFromGithub, but I guess nowadays people use flakes or something
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Ke >
well it's fetchTarball, but fetchFromGithub should probably work the same way
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Ke >
or maybe not, since pkgs and lib availability depends on imports being evaluated, I believe
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Ke >
so maybe just fetchTarball, as it's builtins
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Hurttila >
Ke hanks.So what is flakes good for?
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Ke >
as I understand it's a way of distributing code with some metadata
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Ke >
if you make the code now, I am quite sure you can change distribution method later
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Ke >
maybe you can also take a look at nixops etc.
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cole-h >
flakes is good for purity :)
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Hurttila >
Thanks. I'll keep reading a bit and probably go with a fetchSomething style first to get the hang of it. My goal is to first setup my PC and laptop to use mostly the same config files I'll probably have on github. Seems like I won't need flakes of nixops for that but I'll definetly take a look at those as well
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cole-h: does that mean something else apart from making setup being a function from nixpkgs to results, which is also pure?
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d3z: super nice. i was trying that about a year ago and kinda gave up on it...
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leonardp >
thanks for sharing
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d3z >
leonardp: next is to get direnv setup with it. Then on to the next projects I develop.
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leonardp >
seems logical :)
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leonardp >
on what boards are you developing on?
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patagonicus >
Does nix expose a parser for .drv files as a library or is it deeply nested into the code of the package manager? Or is there maybe even a parser in Go/Python? So far I've only been able to find one in Haskell.
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clever >
patagonicus: `nix show-derivation` will translate it to json
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patagonicus >
Uuuh. I only knew it does pretty printing, but json is more than good enough. Thanks!
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patagonicus >
Ah, not even pretty printing. Guess I should have paid more attention when I last used it.
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ejpcmac >
Is there a way I can configure this properly, so that the route is created on the interface on the host side whenever the container starts?
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viric >
I think nixos isos boot if copied to a usb block device, and other distribution isos do not boot. What is the magic?
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Ke >
hmm, which iso does not boot from usb mass storage in 2021?
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ar >
Ke: systemrescuecd
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ar >
oh, nvm, they do already support it
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viric: the iso filesystem starts something like 32kb into the image, plenty of room to shove in either an mbr or gpt header
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clever >
viric: with care (or the right tooling), you can then align the gpt and iso partitions up on the same blocks, so one fs is seen by both
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ar >
clever: with care you can even shove both mbr and gpt in there, by relying on the secondary (at disk end) gpt table
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clever >
ar: or making use of the protective mbr
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simonpe^^ >
I'm trying to build a custom kernel (for the NXP i.MX8 chip) using a flake, but I'm getting some weird errors abount not finding /nix/store/.../bin/bash for the installkernel.drv. When I inspect that bash binary it seems like it's an aarch64 binary, which is weird because I'm assuming the build scripts should use the build machines architecture (x86_64). The flake is here
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simonpe^^ >
/nix/store/j1wvpskk5wkp5ji42in212csp8095k7k-bash-4.4-p23/bin/bash
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makefu >
jtojnar drozdziak1: actually the wiki page has a typo there, should be $out/share/beef/beef
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lassulus >
makefu: its a wiki? you can fix it!
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lassulus >
ah, already happened
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makefu >
haha jokes on you!
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ixxie >
anybody know of some nice options for turning my RaspberryPi + external harddrive into a NAS?
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clever >
ixxie:
*digs*
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ixxie >
clever: well, I means more like NixOS options in order to configure expose a drive that is mounted as a NAS
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clever >
ixxie: i just use plain zfs + nfs on my nixos nas
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aha! was missing this 'nfs' term :)
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ixxie >
now I see the options
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ixxie >
I'm running into weirdness trying to setup NixOS on my Raspberry Pi 3B
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ixxie >
but after a succesful `nixos-rebuild`, the boot hangs at `Starting kernel ... `
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ixxie >
And it hangs for all generations available in the bootloader
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clever >
ixxie: by default, the nixos images want to use u-boot, and configuration.nix must be configured correctly, or it wont update things properly
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clever >
the images need a bit of work, ive been wanting to go over all of them and make sure its all good
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ixxie >
so the template provided in the link above is not sufficient?
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ixxie >
it sets boot.loader.grub.enable = false; and boot.loader.generic-extlinux-compatible.enable = true;
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mananamenos >
join #emacs
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ixxie: try linuxPackages_rpi3 ?
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ixxie >
clever: it seems now that suddenly the SD card parition table is corrupt for some reason, and reflashing the image didn't fix it
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clever >
ixxie: SD cards can fail
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ixxie >
it says "Either the superblock of the partition table is likely corrupt"
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viric >
simonpe^^: in your flake you don't describe any cross building step
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ixxie >
Is there nothing I can do but replace the card now?
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viric >
simonpe^^: I don't know flakes but I think you have to be explicit about your cross-building intentions
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clever: specifically it says 'The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is X blocks The physical size of the device is Y blocks
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jmercouris >
anyone know how to change the sddm theme/and or wallpaper?
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I can do: services.xserver.displayManager.sddm.theme = "breeze";
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but there are only four options available, "breeze", "maya', "maldives" ...
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I just want a black wallpaper for SDDM
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ixxie: that sounds like the image was for a larger device
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that's weird because I previously managed to flash this image on the this card (earlier today) and it booted without issue
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maybe the only difference is that I copied an extra filed onto the SD card but I don't see how that would cause this issue
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extra file*
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When using the trivial builder `writeShellScriptBin`, the name is the name of the command plus the name of the whole nix store directory. Is there a way to set the version for the store directory like `/nix/store/...-name-version`?
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CMCDragonkai: I think you'd just pass `name = "${name}-${version}"` or somesuch.
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if i pass the version
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the version becomes part of the command name
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Then I guess you'd have to manually write a derivation that does basically the same thing.
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clever: yea i'm using it, but i want to set the version of the
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you would need to either paste an edited copy of this somewhere, or overrideAttrs the name
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store path
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clever: got it by using `overrideAttrs`
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awesome
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clever: the build with linuxPackages_rpi3 is failing with 'Module ahci not found'
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ixxie: thats a driver for sata controllers, its not needed, but a recent bug in nixpkgs makes missing modules fatal
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ixxie: you need to remove it from the boot.loader.initrd.availableKernelModules somehow
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or one of its related lists
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clever: would it work to use boot.blacklistedKernelModules
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ixxie: nope, that tells modprobe to not load it, but the fault is with nixos trying to copy the module into the initrd
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Reventlov: github has a help page about fetching a PR locally
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Reventlov: What I do is pull the branch and use overlays to point to the expressions. Not the best UX but works.
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Reventlov: then you can do `nix build -I nixpkgs=path/to/checkout nixpkgs.packagename`
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Yaniel: Yeah but I wasn't really thinking about the git side, but more the nixos side
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I was more thinking about modules and options
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it creates a "result" symlink in the working directory
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Yaniel >
for modules you can similarly do `nixos-rebuild test -I nixpkgs=path/to/checkout`
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thanks :)
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or build/boot/switch
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clever: I can't figure out how to override this... and I can even find kernelPackages_rpi3 when I search nixpkgs repo or the package search engine
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updateing the pipewire module sure has made that workflow feel familiar :D
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ixxie: you have to search using tab-completion in `nix repl '<nixpkgs>'`
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Yaniel: :D
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ixxie: all of the search utils hide packages with duplicate .name values
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I have to do a presentation tommorow on microsoft teams… So I'm trying to get things working
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ixxie: run a `git grep ahci` on nixpkgs/nixos, and see where its being added
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If we have nix in nix, that would mean, that if upstream has a flake to build it's package (which accepts a nixpkgs as input) we could just delegate to that in nixpkgs, right?
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Reventlov: just enable pulse emulation in the pipewire module
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Yaniel >
that has been working nicely with teams
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Yaniel: hmm
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(+/- forcing it to use the right input and output in patchage or carla)
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Yaniel: My problem is that the teams app (desktop) does not detect I can share my screen
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Yaniel >
aah, are you on wayland?
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Reventlov >
So I tried in firefox (and teams detect firefox, and even with fake user agent it does not work)
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sway / wayland. The thing is I spent time working the screen sharing on firefox, but not on chromium yet
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that needs xdg-desktop-portal working AFAIK
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oh god chromium 612.7/1867.0 MiB DL
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Does anyone have knowledge about the NixOS testing infrastructure and can have a look at #112010 ?
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Reventlov: oh yeah and fixing up the pipewire update PRs always involves rebuilding all of firefox :D
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clever: so this stuff should be removed by an override I guess?
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ixxie: yeah, thats the quickest solution
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mindtree[m]: with nixpkgs-review, is it possible not to use /tmp to extract packages ? My /tmp (tmpfs) is too small…
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Mic92: *
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ixxie: aha! config.boot.initrd.includeDefaultModules
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ixxie: set it to false, and they go away
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sorry mindtree[m] for the wrong hl.
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no worries :)
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Reventlov: just set TMPDIR
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But I know nothing about cachix - is there a way of setting up github actions without having to use cachix?
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cinimod: you can just use the install-nix action than you won't have a persistant binary cache though.
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I'd hoped I'd just be able to say to github actions something like `nix-build`
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Mic92: it seems it's still using /tmp/ at some point (exporting TMPDIR in the shell I run nixpkgs-review)
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Reventlov: mhm. Actually the nix daemon is setting this up in a chroot. It might be actually not your real /tmp
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This only applies to single user nix
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kenran >
I'm wrapping a GL-dependent package with writeShellScriptBin to start it via nixGLNvidia (on Ubuntu), but when I do that, I lose the accessibility of the program via my launcher (the package doesn't appear under .nix-profile/share anymore). How can I either make it so a .desktop is created for my script, or that the wrapping is such that I still get the normal behavior?
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pi@pi400:~ $ cat /etc/systemd/system/nix-daemon.service
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Environment="TMPDIR=/mnt/tmp"
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Reventlov: ^
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trying this, thanks
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yay! that worked! thanks clever++
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Reventlov: this is how i changed the temp dir, when on non-nixos, similar can be acheived via systemd.services.nix-daemon
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clever's karma got increased to 566
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with error: getting status of '/home/runner/work/hmatrix/packages/base/release.nix': No such file or directory
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cinimod >
Not sure what I have done wrong
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clever: ahh
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clever: that Atom N455 was quite a disaster. There was a generation of Atom that had super-slow fork
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any idea how long does chrome take to build ? :|
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Reventlov: I just built firefox i686, 3600s (in a quadcore ryzen 1200)
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Reventlov: chrome could be 6x that
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I have a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10610U CPU @ 1.80GHz
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I'm using `nix-shell -p haskell.compiler.ghc8103`, to get that specific version of GHC in my nix-shell, and it works fine. But how can I make that "permanent" so it always uses that version for any invocation of `nix-shell`. I want to use that version of GHC also when opening a project in my editor (Emacs), for instance. Can it be put inside `shell.nix` somehow?
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Reventlov: hydra says it took 2h 8m
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a couple of hours sounds about right
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that isn't very comparable
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that build of chromium ran on a machine with 24 cores, 48 threads ... 2.2GHz / 2.9GHz boost, and 256G of RAM, and the chromium build was allowed to use every core
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Equinix Metal is drool-inducingly generous :P
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If I have `/nix/store/sdfdsf-x` is there a way to get the `x`?
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I'm trying to bring in some extra source files, but I want to get the base name of that nix store path. But the basename right now contains the hash.
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gchristensen: sounds like a basic setup for chrome building.
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CMCDragonkai: nix show-derivation may help you
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CMCDragonkai: You could just split by "-"
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Or even split by the hash length + 1
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`stripHash`
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I just found a bug with pkgsCross+pkgsStatic.
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[myrl@myrl-thinkpad:/etc/nixos/nixos-configs/overlays/qemu]$ nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A pkgsCross.aarch64-multiplatform-musl.pkgsStatic.qemu --no-out-link
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error: value is null while a list was expected, at /etc/nixos/nixpkgs/pkgs/stdenv/adapters.nix:63:22
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(That's when `cmakeFlags` is null.)
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does anyone know if there's a way to have the old `nix-build` output with `nix build`?
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Las: I have looked into that and I don‘t think it’s currently possible. There is the --log-format(s?) flag and the possible formats are listed online (wiki or nix-manual).
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Is the github:nixos/nixpkgs repo going to be split up into flakes eventually or is it still going to be a monorepo? Is there an ongoing discourse about this somwhere online that I can read?
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supersandro2000 >
simonpe^^:https://discourse.nixos.org/t/wild-idea-how-about-splitting-nixpkgs-and-nixos/11487/3
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my two cents: integrate nixos-hardware, too
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supersandro2000 >
it makes no sense to split them up
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I don't think you need to integrate or split anything
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With flakes there will just be less incentive to contribute new packages to nixpkgs, since you can easily just make your own flake
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supersandro2000: well I'm a supporter of the multirepo model and there are arguments both for and against it but I won't push my agenda here, I'm just interested in reading the ongoing holy war if there is one
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l-as >
This is also better IMO, since not every package under the sun needs to be in nixpkgs...
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asymmetric >
i have a question about purity: during the build, accessing the network is forbidden, in order to guarantee reproducibility
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how then are sources fetched?
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asymmetric: they are fixed-output derivations, I think that's why they're allowed to do that
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asymmetric: The sources are fetched
*before* the build.
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kenran >
Is it possible to create a shell script derivation using writeShellScriptBin and "giving" it a .desktop item via makeDesktopItem? Or do I have to use mkDerivation for this to work?
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asymmetric: builtins.fetch* ?
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simpson: so network access is prevented after fetching sources? how is that enforced?
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kenran: still the sources are "built" since they surely are a derivation too? Just that they're a fixed-output derivation that has some special rules since purity can be guaranteed even if the network is accessed
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asymmetric: To expand on what simonpe^^++ said, a fixed-output derivation is allowed to access the network, but must
*always* produce the same output, byte for byte. So that allows for the sources to be fetched.
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And then there's a second derivation for the actual build. At that point, the sources are in the Nix store, so networking isn't necessary.
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wow thanks! I have one karma, rebirth guaranteed :D
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kenran: Try it and see, but I think that you'll have to write a full derivation.
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simpson: how does nix know beforehand whether a derivation is fixed-output?
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and therefore whether it can access the network
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kenran: and first of all, google fixed-output derivations, they're described in the docs
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simpson: I tried and saw that it didn't work the naive way (calling mkDesktopItem) :)
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simonpe^^ >
oh I tagged the wrong person there, I meant asymmetric
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kenran >
simonpe^^: Is it possible you don't mean to ping me, but the other person?
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right, so a derivation with a hash to check against is considered FOD
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simpson: Do you know of a smarter way to go about wrapping the package with nixGL that wouldn't mean I have to create a full derivation? It feels like it has to be something people are doing all the time, but maybe they are all on NixOS (where I'd love to be too on this machine, but cannot).
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simpson++
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kenran: I don't know much about nixGL, sorry.
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is systemd.*.restartTriggers a systemd thing or a nixos thing? anyone have any examples of using it?
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It is a Nix thing, AIUI. When NixOS is rebuilt, then it notifies the running systemd.
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simonpe^^: multirepo just means I need to merge multiple PRs at once and we go into dependency hell
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also flake.lock updating is annoying
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and flakes are also meh. I like the older commands more
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hi, cam someone share a reference configuration how to configure ipip tunnel on nixos?
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supersandro2000: what do you find meh about flakes?
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supersandro2000 >
nix-build -A something-uncommited
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supersandro2000 >
maybe I am doing it wrong but that does not work
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and using a comment character was also not a smart idea
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i think flakes want the file to be staged, rather than committed
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supersandro2000: yes but there are many use cases, there's not only nixos/nixpkgs
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How do I either compute ./${name}.nix from name, or extract name from ./${name}.nix ?
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Fare: in what context?
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exarkun: I have a bunch of ${foo}.nix files that I want to process each according to its name.
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baseNameOf does half the work, I need to remove the ending .nix
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and/or I previously did ${./.}/${name}.nix but that's forbidden apparently.
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Fare: lib.removeSuffix ?
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I don't understand what you have. Files? Filenames? Nix expressions? Arbitrary strings?
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immae: perfect!
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exarkun: I want to either go from package paths to package names of package names to package paths.
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so I don't have to write 20 times "foo" ./foo.nix
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does anyone know, where were we supposed to get those prealloc extents options in nix.conf
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Hello. I'm struggling to compile Freeswitch from nixpkgs-unstable on NixOS 20.09. I use pkgs.callPackage <nixpkgs-unstable/[...]/freeswitch> and use an overlay to get sofia-sip and spandsp3 deps. The compile errors I'm getting are "[..]/ld: [..]/liblzma.so.5: undefined reference to pthread_sigmask@GLIBC_2.32"
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I guess this would happen after 21.05 branch
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Is this to do with my mixing of nixpkgs-20.09 and nixpkgs-unstable? If so is there a correct way to do it? If I try to do it in a NixOS container with pkgs set to <nixpkgs-unstable> the same thing happens. The latest FreeSwitch has a bug fix I need.
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Is static compilation supported with cross compilation?
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Miyu-saki: you can mix pkgsStatic and pkgsCross together
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[myrl@myrl-thinkpad:/etc/nixos/nixpkgs]$ nix run nixpkgs.file -c file "$(nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A pkgsCross.aarch64-multiplatform-musl.pkgsStatic.hello --no-out-link)/bin/hello"
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/nix/store/8vb9cr78lhqi90hwvvh3hrx5xsbzihhn-hello-2.10-aarch64-unknown-linux-musl/bin/hello: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /nix/store/al8adhxnjqa339ahxhwi03pzi95g0pj5-musl-1.2.1-aarch64-unknown-linux-musl/lib/ld-musl-aarch64.so.1, not stripped
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default.nix: # nix build -L -f ~/apps/rpi/rpi-tools/ pkgsCross.armv7l-hf-multiplatform.pkgsStatic.msd.rootDir
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Miyu-saki: this is something ive used before
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I'll check the buidl logs.
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Seems like it's a regression in the latest unstable, I guess.
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bisect time!
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Now that you mention that, I could actually do that lmao.
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I don't think I can?
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Like, that info is gone if I refer to it like that.
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Miyu-saki: that just refers to the tip of the nixos-20.09 branch
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Right, and I buitl it today, so it probably refers to what it says. But what if it's been stale for 2 days, for example.
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it probably refers to what it says -> the branch HEAD is what I have on my local checkout
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(What's the default ttl?)
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[root@system76:~]# nix show-config | grep ttl
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tarball-ttl = 3600
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Oh, 1 hour?
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Miyu-saki: if its been over an hour since the last fetch, nix will try to re-fetch it, but i think github etag based caching will let it reuse the old tar, if the rev hasnt changed
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[myrl@myrl-thinkpad:/etc/nixos/nixpkgs]$ nix run nixpkgs.glances -c sudo glances
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error: attribute 'recurseIntoAttrs' missing, at /etc/nixos/nixpkgs/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix:26:2
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(use '--show-trace' to show detailed location information)
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which gives me an idea...
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does the flakes-enabled nix command download latest nixpkgs every time i do `nix search nixpkgs foo`?
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it certainly looks like it does
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[root@system76:~]# cat .cache/nix/tarballs/1x6i5cafxg5kx9rc18w2cmq5y8jcn9b49cfq9bpnpjysdhl7j2hw.info
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"96e789b05d2bd60881c221dfba38f0fe"
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Miyu-saki: that filename, is a hash of the url, and where nix used to store that data
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Ohhhhh. Fun. Thanks.
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but its missing on a diff box, i think it got moved
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Oh yeah, I just got reminded about flakes lol. Is it possible to deploy with flakes using NixOps ?
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ive not tried that yet
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"f2e0fde9015160a1bb0d005356f4139a8cc9458ebb3c73179dfbd745421a9ed5"
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Why's my hash longer? .w.
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its probably a hash of the contents, not a commit sha1
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I think my machine can't bisect nixpkgs lol
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Aborted means OOME'd, right?
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dmesg would tell you
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Found a commit which works apparently
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I think it's just that there's been so many treewide changes? idk.
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Still don't know why it'd abort though.
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[4e9dc46dea0ef8cf15c567fa863796bb23099d0b] stdenv: Fix hardening default for pkgsMusl to reenable -pie
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This is most likely it.
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It's still checking
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But it's stdenv, musl, and -pie
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Hmm, my `services.udev.extraHwdb` configuration for keyboard scancode mappings just stopped working after my latest `nixos-rebuild boot --upgrade` (on 20.09). Any ideas what might have broken?
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Looking at the code for the `udev` nixos module, it seems like that configuration should have been written to `/etc/udev/hwdb.d/99-local.hwdb`, but there's no `/etc/udev/hwdb.d` in any of my recent system generations (including ones where the scancode mapping was working), so I must be misreading something
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
https://git.io/Jqk67
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Is the output of `nixos-rebuild` saved anywhere so I can see if there was an error or warning message printed related to this?
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I tried `nix log /nix/var/nix/profiles/system` but that just printed nothing
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drakonis >
is it finally time for pipewire on nixos?
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Ke >
also fixed all the issues I had with pulseaudio requiring 0 new configuration apart from enabling it on .nix
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shla >
networking.firewall.allowedTCPPorts by default is set to [], how come with networking.firewall.enable=true firewall gets input rule which allows ssh traffic in?
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shla >
this is on ec2 image.
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Ke >
maybe ssh module adds it
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shla >
maybe. checking it.
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Ke >
remeber you can mkForce to force it to be, what you set it to be
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Ke >
then you have to use mkForce in all the places, where you set it
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Ke >
otherwise ones without will get ignored...
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shla >
does nix installer support userdata?
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Ke >
shla: everything in /nix/store is public, what sort of userdata do you mean?
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pinpox >
It complains about the experimental-features not beeing enabled
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supersandro2000 >
pinpox: nix --experimental-features 'nix-command'
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pinpox >
supersandro2000: that works, but I would have to add that to every command right? Is there now image with nix configured already with flakes?
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supersandro2000 >
pinpox: you should be able to write that into the config
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supersandro2000 >
I think you need to install nixFlakes
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supersandro2000 >
and I only know of this one image on docker hub
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supersandro2000 >
*or install nixFlakes
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pinpox >
I think that is the default with the nix-flakes image, at least with the flag for the experimental features the build succeeds (that should mean it's using nixFlakes i suppose)
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pinpox >
I'll try to write the file, thank you for the help! Just thought there might be a image with that already configured since it's called nix-flakes
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Getting this error when I try and create a server on digital ocean using nixops:
https://psty.io/p?q=8e4c7 Any idea what could be wrong?
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ixxie >
itacer[m]: I'm not sure, but the DO nixops plugin is still new and under development... I've been neglecting it due to reasons but DigitalKiwi may know whats going on with it
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kini >
Anyone know how to dump the rules in hwdb.bin to make sure the rules I specified are even getting in there?
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DigitalKiwi >
i have never seen a message like that before
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Miyu-saki >
Assertion `GET_PROTOCOL_MINOR(conn->remoteVersion) >= 4' failed.
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Miyu-saki >
`nix-store --version`?
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Miyu-saki >
itacer[m]:
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itacer[m] >
`nix-store (Nix) 2.4pre20201205_a5d85d0`
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clever >
on both ends
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DigitalKiwi >
is that even 'my
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DigitalKiwi >
is that even 'my' nixops-digitalocean lol
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itacer[m] >
that was on my pc, and the server is `nix-store (Nix) 1.11.16`, i'm just using nixops from nixpkgs
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Miyu-saki >
I don't think so? That's 1.7.
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Miyu-saki >
That's nixops-1.7*
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DigitalKiwi >
because the one i work on is python 3.8 and this is the verison nixops-do --version
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DigitalKiwi >
NixOps @version@
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Miyu-saki >
(I commented on the issue for that)
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{^_^} >
nixops#1420 (by Kiwi, 14 weeks ago, open): nixops --version is cute (never seen this version anywhere else) but neither unique nor useful
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DigitalKiwi >
ixxie: i was thinking about working on it today lol
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DigitalKiwi >
the other day i even tried figuring out what branch i was working on but it's been a few months and it's python so i should probably just rm -rf and start over
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Miyu-saki >
I wonder if this means that bootstrapping DO on nixops-1.7 is going to be difficult now.
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Miyu-saki >
Well, not super difficult, because you could always just deploy using an old nixpkgs.
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Miyu-saki >
The commit which introduced that line is 7 months ago, and I don't think many people use the DO instance.
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Miyu-saki >
s/the DO instance/DO with NixOps/
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DigitalKiwi >
i hope not
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Miyu-saki >
I personally do though. :P
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Miyu-saki >
I think DO still uses `nixos-infect` or similar
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DigitalKiwi >
i don't use the version that's in nix-community i'll tell you that much lol >.>
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Miyu-saki >
So I wouldn't be surprised if the Nix version of that is very old
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Miyu-saki >
> [[ -z "$NIX_CHANNEL" ]] && NIX_CHANNEL="nixos-19.09"
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{^_^} >
error: syntax error, unexpected '-', at (string):489:4
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Miyu-saki >
Whoops, I forgot that exists.
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Miyu-saki >
itacer[m]: From what i understand, it should work if you use NixOps from 20.03.
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DigitalKiwi >
(i'm trying to get nix-community caught up with mine but it's been...not fun)
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itacer[m] >
<Miyu-saki "itacer: From what i understand, "> i'll give this a go, thanks
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Miyu-saki >
DigitalKiwi: Where is yours? I'm currently at 1.7 and I might upgrade to 2.0 sometime.
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Orbstheorem >
Is there an official documentation on Nix flakes?
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Orbstheorem >
I would like to update my lock file.
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DigitalKiwi >
ostensibly it's no-kitchen-sink branch
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bpye >
Does anyone else here deploy-rs? I'm trying to figure out why it's rebuilding packages such as coreutils and openssl...
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za1b1tsu >
Hey, when I boot the laptop, it says "Error switching console mode 1: Unsupported" with the option to boot nixos
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za1b1tsu >
nixos works, but this error is weird, never seen this before
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clever >
za1b1tsu: one fancy trick thats easier on nixos, `grep 'Error switching console mode' $(nix-store -qR /run/curent-system)`
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clever >
za1b1tsu: that will tell you exactly which binary is to blame for the error msg
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clever >
boom, its systemd
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* clever
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za1b1tsu >
that's clever
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za1b1tsu >
thank you
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DigitalKiwi >
can't even have more than one droplet in a network with the plugin until i get that feature figured out...but it involves changes to the SSH keys so it's tricky
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DigitalKiwi >
almost better off just creating droplets outside of nixops and using the none type
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @Anderssorby to release-20.09 « nixos/minetest-server: Fix port coercion »:
https://git.io/JqkS9
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DigitalKiwi >
mostlyabsurd.com is on DO and doesn't even use nixops lol :)
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Miyu-saki >
Thanks. That's a bit of a dealbreaker for me rn. Though, is this like, a separate implementation from nixops-1.7 digitalocean?
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DigitalKiwi >
that's a 3-4 year old bug lol
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Miyu-saki >
Wait what
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Miyu-saki >
I had 2 droplets on mine
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DigitalKiwi >
in the same network?
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Miyu-saki >
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I had 2 droplets on mine.
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Miyu-saki >
Because I wanted to upgrade my Minceraft server, dut I didn't want to take it down immediately, in case I messed up my data.
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DigitalKiwi >
so what happened is when they switched to the plugin system...nobody converted the nixops-digitalocean one for several months so i finally did
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Miyu-saki >
Just to clarify, I added the droplet to the network
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Miyu-saki >
I think that's the difference?
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Miyu-saki >
I didn't deploy both at the same time
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Miyu-saki >
I deployed one, a few months later, deployed the other.
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{^_^} >
nixops#819 (by mhsjlw, 3 years ago, open): DigitalOcean multi-server deployment fails due to SSH key duplication
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Miyu-saki >
That's so weird lol. I'll check my DO panel and see if I have the key there.
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DigitalKiwi >
i did fix a few bugs and add a few features but they're all in that one commit and there was like no testing or ci or anything before and then i hit a bunch of problems pypi trying to be naughty....
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Miyu-saki >
DigitalKiwi: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's because I deployed the 2 separately.
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Miyu-saki >
I don't use DigitalOcean for production-level stuff, it's just a place for me to dump my mail and IRC client to
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Miyu-saki >
And well, games
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DigitalKiwi >
i do use digitalocean for production stuff...but not nixops-digitalocean...(yet, goal is to though)
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DigitalKiwi >
fwiw my testing server is more reliable than a lot of production servers i come across that other peple setup though so lol
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DigitalKiwi >
21:21:53 up 97 days 7:46, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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Miyu-saki >
Fun. :)
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Miyu-saki >
Just checked mine. Uptime: 94 days, 16:54:22
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bpye >
My Nix server > 21:24:45 up 119 days 18:30, 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.63, 1.11
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DigitalKiwi >
it has instances of nextcloud, gitea, nixos-mailserver, acellemail, and perfex-crm, etc. and i use it as a remote builder >.>
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ajs124 >
bpye: was the the bi-annual release update reboot?
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DigitalKiwi >
21:27:56 up 246 days 15:32, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01
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bpye >
Yeah I would have last rebooted when switching to 20.09
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bpye >
I guess I'll need to do that again soon, I assume 21.03 is
*soon*
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DigitalKiwi >
21.03.git.20f162fcf30 (Okapi)
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bpye >
It would be kind of neat if we could kexec into new configurations...
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DigitalKiwi >
this is what my laptop has lol 21.05pre273435.0aeba64fb26 (Okapi)
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bpye >
Wait, why did the release cycle move?
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DigitalKiwi >
i assume because it's far too unstable
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<
{^_^} >
rfcs#80 (by jonringer, 14 weeks ago, merged): [RFC 0080] Change NixOS releases to YY.05,YY.11
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ajs124 >
there were a bunch of reasons
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DigitalKiwi >
my life's been hell the last 3 months ;_;
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bpye >
Ah I see, yeah I don't run Nix as a desktop so I guess I've never noticed any of the issues with GNOME or Plasma. I did run a laptop for a while but it was using Sway anyway
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jumper149 >
How can I create a directory with specific owner/group and permissions?
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jumper149 >
From nixos configuration.nix
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__monty__ >
When cherry-picking for a backport what to do when conflicts arise?
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jumper149: What do you need this for?
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In other words how clean does a cherry-pick have to be to still qualify as a backport?
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jumper149 >
I want to create a directory with write permissions for the group "mpd" so I can add my main user account to that group and then put files in there.
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infinisil: I could do it manually but wheres the fun in that
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What's a good way to import an unstable nixos module? I'd like to use newer pipewire on my machine
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__monty__: This looks neat, thank you!
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How do I access substituteAll in a systemd.services.*.script?
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if I don't want to go and make a whole derivation for the script
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I tried `#! /usr/bin/env nix-shell\n#! nix-shell -p stdenv` but I still got an error about substituteAll being undefined when used later on
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How can I render the documentation for my own modules to html?
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pinpox >
I've defined a few modules with options that have a "description", I'd like to render a documentation of them as html
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kfajdsl >
installs the regular version ("iosevka-bin")
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kfajdsl >
I tried passing other things as the argument including gibberish and the wrong type (boolean instead of a string), but same thing
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jumper149: That didn't really answer my question :)
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infinisil >
I'm asking because depending on what you need it for there's different ways to do it
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jumper149 >
did you read both messages?
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infinisil >
Only the second one, sry
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jumper149 >
yeah forgot to tag you in the first one, it's my bad really
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infinisil >
Nono :)
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infinisil >
jumper149: Is the directory like /home/<user>/...?
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infinisil >
Or is it a system directory?
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jumper149 >
/var/lib/mpd/music
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jumper149: Ah, then I guess you're using the mpd nixos module?
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Because that should create that directory automatically if you assigned the `musicDirectory` option to that
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jumper149 >
ahh ok I wasnt specific enough
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jumper149 >
I want to create /var/lib/mpd/music/someDir with g+w permission owned by mpd:mpd
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jumper149 >
And not sure if that is nitpicking, but NixOS doesn't create that directory actually. I'm pretty sure it's just the mpd service that creates it.
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jumper149: Hmm, you could relatively easily make all of `/var/lib/mpd` group-writable with `systemd.services.mpd.serviceConfig.StateDirectoryMode = "0775"`
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infinisil >
Oh yeah it's the service that creates it
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infinisil >
Is that no good?
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infinisil: That's actually a good idea
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jumper149 >
infinisil: I'll go with that
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jumper149 >
But I guess I will have to clear /var/lib/mpd because it is stateful?
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infinisil >
systemd should change the permissions automatically
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jumper149 >
sounds even better :) ty
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infinisil++
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It checks the StateDirectory permissions every time the service starts, and recursively chown/chmods it if it doesn't match what you specified, iirc