<spinlock[m]>
I find that I use `nix search nixpkgs <name>` quite a lot, to hunt down packages. I've noticed that every time I run that command it seems to download about 25 MiB from some NixOS server. I don't really mind, since the net is pretty fast out here, but it seems like an abuse of NixOS's bandwidth.
<spinlock[m]>
Is it possible to cache... whatever `nix search` is downloading?
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<Yaniel>
it has a cache and shouldn't fetch anything unless you pass the -u flag AFAIK?
<remexre>
is there a way to get some python packages "in scope" for gdb's python, without setting python3 and thereby rebuilding it?
<monokrome>
hexa-: not sure that I get the suggestion there
<remexre>
I didn't see anything obvious from the derivation, but idk if there's a general python override thing
<justan0theruser>
I'm getting "error: while setting up the build environment: getting attributes of path './keys': Permission Denied" when I use `extra-sandbox-paths` in nix-build. Full command: `sudo nix-build ./robotnix/default.nix --max-jobs 5 --arg configuration ./mydevice.nix -A img --option extra-sandbox-paths ./keys`. I've run sudo `chgrp -R nixbld ./keys` and `sudo chmod -R g+r ./keys`
<justan0theruser>
`trusted-users = root` in nix.conf
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<mica[m]>
Why is running nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -i hugo yarn python38Packages.weasyprint gitFull linkchecker perlPackages.Po4a in a GitHub Action telling me that python38Packages.weasyprint doesn't match anything? I see it on my local machine.
<justan0theruser>
I'm getting "error: while setting up the build environment: getting attributes of path './keys': Permission Denied" when I use `extra-sandbox-paths` in nix-build. Full command: `sudo nix-build ./robotnix/default.nix --max-jobs 5 --arg configuration ./mydevice.nix -A img --option extra-sandbox-paths ./keys`. I've run sudo `chgrp -R nixbld ./keys` and `sudo chmod -R g+r ./keys`. I'm running this as
<buzzert>
hey everyone, i'm building a nixos sd-card image for a raspberry pi, and i noticed that on the built image, the nix configuration (/etc/nixos/configuration.nix) isn't there. is this by design?
<buzzert>
my instinct is to just copy the configuration.nix to the built image, but i was wondering if there was a better way to handle this in case i want to change the config in the future
<sephii>
How can I update nested keys of a set returned by a function? `{ foo.bar = "bar"; } // { foo.baz = "baz"; }` returns `{ foo.baz = "baz"; }` but I’d like to have `{ foo = { bar = "bar"; baz = "baz"; }; }`
<avn>
folks, I have a gitlab runner building my nix-based project (with flakes), but it can't have access to private repos there. Anyone know how to fix it?
<adisbladis>
avn: You're probably using pkgs.fetchgit or pkgs.fetchFromGitLab ?
<adisbladis>
These run in a sandboxed environment without access to ssh keys and such
<adisbladis>
If you switch to builtins.fetchGit that runs inside the Nix evaluator and has access to the same keys as your user
<avn>
adisbladis: nope, only flakes (probably via flake-compat, but it use fetchit as I know)
<avn>
builtins.fetchGit as I know
<adisbladis>
I'm not sure which abstraction flakes is using
<adisbladis>
But it's probably using the wrong one for your use case
<adisbladis>
cole-h: I have a vague recollection of seeing your name in an issue report related to this
<Nickli>
one thing i'm curious about, is that i've seen nix configs having a SSH EC25516 option set with what seems like a key, is that a ssh public key that is set?
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<adisbladis>
Nickli: That's ed25519
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<adisbladis>
And I _think_ you're talking about the host key
<adisbladis>
If so, that's the public key of the machine getting generated
<adisbladis>
We generate both ed25519 and rsa keys for the host
<Nickli>
so it's not really a setting but more like somethign that's get added upon install?
<sephii>
cole-h: perfect, thanks!
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed to master « ocamlPackages.ppx_yojson_conv_lib: use Dune 2 »: https://git.io/JtFf7
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<adisbladis>
Nickli: Yes, they are generated at the initial boot
<adisbladis>
Since they are secret state they can't live inside the Nix store (which is world readable)
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<adisbladis>
So they are generated by openssh/systemd
<cole-h>
I believe they're generated when sshd starts / receives its first connection
<etu>
Nickli: You can set those per user using: users.extraUsers.<name>.openssh.authorizedKeys.keys = [];
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<Nickli>
but what is the point of having the local computer declaring its public key in the configuration?
<cole-h>
It's also possible they're talking about the binary cache keys, which look similar to ed25519 keys (in length and that they're both b64 encoded?)
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<adisbladis>
Nickli: There are two concept at play here:
<adisbladis>
- Host keys (these identify the computer / the ssh daemon)
<adisbladis>
- "User keys" (not sure about the terminology, these identify the user logging in)
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<adisbladis>
You know when you ssh to a new place and it asks you to confirm the fingerprint?
<adisbladis>
That is the host key
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<cole-h>
"confirm the fingerprint" 👀
<Nickli>
yes
<Nickli>
oh wait not you cole-h 😏
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<Taneb>
Is there a way I can query what's taking up locks and build slots? I'm getting a "waiting for locks or build slots" message and I don't think I'm building anything else
<UnaDuda>
Hello, we need an cloak nixos/joaquinito2051.
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<adisbladis>
UnaDuda: Stop spamming
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<UnaDuda>
Give me a operator.
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<adisbladis>
...
<adisbladis>
UnaDuda: I've told you before, stop with that demanding tone.
<adisbladis>
It's going to get you nowhere at all.
<eyJhb>
UnaDuda: You are missing some words to make your sentence more polite, ie. you could ask if it is possible to merge trafficserver, what is required to get it merged, etc.?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @mcmtroffaes opened pull request #114340 → wolfssl: use --enable-reproducible-build in favour of configure.ac hack → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/114340
<ambroisie>
Mic92: what's weird is that when I'm using `gdb` on my Arch laptop, I can pretty-print containers just fine... I'll try with `lldb`see if it changes anything
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<Mic92>
ambroisie: ok. not sure if the pretty printer from libc++ also can be used for libcxx.
<sdisavona>
monty I need to see which version it is, but I don't understand how. Like which version of shiboken2 does nixpkgs.python39Packages.shiboken2 provide?
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<__monty__>
I think it's because packages under python39Packages and similar package sets aren't available without specifying the attribute because it'd make the UX of not providing -A even more painful.
<sdisavona>
I always use nix-env -iA, i didn't for nix-env -qa because it wasn't suggested on the cheat sheet.
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<sdisavona>
I'm looking for a quick list of nix commands for operations/queries on packages, I've always used the cheat sheet, do you know anything else?
<__monty__>
-qa is a bit of an exception because you're searching for something so you might not know the attribute name.
<justan0theruser>
sdisavona: I assume you've checked the man pages?
<__monty__>
I just don't bother with nix-env for the most part and use the online packages search.
<__monty__>
There's also nix-index
<__monty__>
,locate shiboken2
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: python27Packages.shiboken2, python37Packages.shiboken2, python38Packages.shiboken2
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<__monty__>
With nix-index you can do that locally ^
<justan0theruser>
I've been using slow `nix-env -qaP`
<__monty__>
I used to store -qaP in a text file every time I updated channels so I could ripgrep it. Much faster that way.
<sdisavona>
justan0theruser Yes, but for example, I often have to 'man nix-env' and then '/something' to know how to do something and it's not very comfortable.
<__monty__>
sdisavona: Yes, there's no difference.
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<justan0theruser>
Is there a good way to suspend a nix build?
<__monty__>
Just keep in mind that the examples usually use "nixos" which is customarily the channel name for the nixpkgs channel on NixOS (Because usually it's a nixos-20.03 or other release channel rather than unstable).
<justan0theruser>
I have a build that's been running for around 10 hours and want it to take a break
<__monty__>
As in pause? I doubt it.
<justan0theruser>
I was thinking kill -STOP pid
<justan0theruser>
but I'd need to do that recursively for child processes, and I'm worried I'd break something
<__monty__>
You could try that but I doubt it'll work well.
<__monty__>
I don't think anything should break since nix doesn't really "commit" until everything's built.
<justan0theruser>
sure, I'm not worried about atomicity
<__monty__>
So you should feel relatively free to just ^C builds.
<sdisavona>
monty there's a selector "nixOS/non nixOS", that for example change nixos.foo to nixpkgs.foo
<justan0theruser>
just about losing progress
<__monty__>
sdisavona: Yes, I don't bother because it's such a simple change : )
<__monty__>
Yeah any build that hasn't finished will lose all progress if you kill it, afaict.
<__monty__>
Where a build is per store path. So if a dependency has been fully built it won't be rebuilt.
<sdisavona>
monty it's simple, but I like to be able to copy paste stuff like nixpkgs.thisisalongname92.because.gnome3.likes.complicated-stuff
<__monty__>
Are you on old hardware?
<__monty__>
Sure, the button's there, might as well use it : )
<justan0theruser>
I think any already built derivations should be fine, but this build has one massive derivation, and unfortunately incremental C++ builds aren't available in nix (afaik?)
<fendor>
probably not purely nixos related, but should bluetooth work with a headset? I have sound, but the microphone is not recognized, or at least, not used. Any ideas how to fox that or where I can ask for help?
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<sdisavona>
The closest thing I've found is 'ls /nix/store | grep foo' and then 'du -a $path'. Using the 'readilnk -f $(which foo)' suggested by cheatsheet gives me the binary path, wich is more time-wasting to copy-paste.
<stigo>
fendor: check out pavucontrol, and change your headset config there.
<aforemny>
fendor: Probably your headset uses the A2DP Sink profile, and you want to set it to HSP/HFP profile
<sdisavona>
I don't know if there's a limitation on non nixOS.
<fendor>
stigo, I can only select A2DP config, the input seems to be recognized but apparently no sound is transmitted
<aforemny>
fendor: Ah, maybe `hardware.bluetooth.hsphfpd` could help?
<aforemny>
fendor: Yeah, your device only supports the Handsfree profile. I think hsphfpd is needed for that.
<aforemny>
fendor: Last time I was in a situation, I hacked something together using ofono and phonesim services. But I think hsphfpd is the way to go now.
<fendor>
aforemny, that exsits only on unstable, right?
<maralorn>
fendor: I thought Bluetooth headset input with pulseaudio is a lost cause. I have a very competent bubble in this regard and I don‘t think anyone in it got it to work.
<aforemny>
maralorn: I did make it work with ofonod + phonesim once. I think hsphfpd is the more robust way now, though.
<aforemny>
But yes, last time I checked pulseaudio will not support Bluetooth headsets
<maralorn>
aforemny: How much do you anticipate this to be device dependent?
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<maralorn>
aforemny: Wait, ofonod + phonesim means to completely bypass pulseaudio?
<sdisavona>
UnaDuda That should depend on the specific Icecast version, I'd expect you to find more info in the docs. I don't know for last version, but for previous ones Icecast treated administrator and source credentials as different.
<aforemny>
maralorn: I think it presents to pulseaudio as HSP/HFP which pulseaudio supports
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<maralorn>
aforemny: You don‘t by any chance have some nixos-config of that lying around?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #114347 → emacs.pkgs.telega: Replace dependency commands with absolute store paths → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/114347
* adisbladis
rarely has much issues with pulseaudio + bluetooth
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<sdisavona>
I've read nix pills (https://nixos.org/guides/nix-pills/index.html) but I can't understand a stupidly simple fact: when I update channel, does it also updates hashed folders under /nix/store?
<Taneb>
sdisavona: when you next rebuild, it will install what it builds alongside what's already in /nix/store, and update the symlinks to get PATH etc working
<sdisavona>
How do I reverse search what built a specific hashed store? In my case I want to understand what generated /nix/store/4dsabbrkism1mradh0qqfqc0x9j59gw1-compiler-rt-11.0.1
<sterni>
(gives you all store paths that directly or indirectly reference this store path)
<sterni>
--referrers only gives you direct
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<sdisavona>
sterni I already knew --referrers, but didn't know you could use it on store paths, I used it on binaries.
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<sdisavona>
So if I run 'nix-store --query --referrers $hashpath-compiler-rt-x.y.z' and as results I get '$hashpath-compiler-rt-x.y.z-dev' and '$hashpath=clang-wrapper-11.0.1' they're the culripts. Aren't they?
<sdisavona>
I was expecting exactly clang-wrapper but was looking for a confirmation.
<deckweiss>
Hi, I am new to nixos. Kate is the editor of my choise, but on nixos it does not ask for root pw when trying to save the configuration.nix . gParted is perfectly fine asking for root pw. How can I fix this?
<deckweiss>
ps: I'm on unstable
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<supersandro2000>
Can you open it from the terminal? It may print some error that something is missing
<deckweiss>
Kate is not supposed to be opened from terminal as root. "Executing Kate with sudo is not possible due to unfixable security vulnerabilities."
<hexa->
error: build of '/nix/store/rw2kxnwmlgpa087xniq4l74a3bygvxsm-etc.drv' on 'ssh://root@dione.lossy.network' failed: getting attributes of path '/nix/store/l0j55v7jrbna0pmprxjf1z25n7m3qg60-runuser.pam': No such file or directory
<deckweiss>
On my main os (Kubuntu 20.04 and 20.10) it only asks for root password when saving file.
<hexa->
etc.drv fails on my aarch64 box
<supersandro2000>
deckweiss: not with sudo from the terminal
<supersandro2000>
just kate from your normal user
<deckweiss>
When I run it as non sudo and then save the file the relevant part of the log is: https://pastebin.com/yjm3U4Eu
<hexa->
this broke somewhere between 54735277753062e0feeaab8069909efdfc6bc7be..651b0c786b0f845710a8819ad884cccbf9bb426f
<supersandro2000>
deckweiss: now we only need someone that knows what this means
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<deckweiss>
What worked was running 'SUDO_EDITOR=kate sudoedit /etc/nixos/configuration.nix' in console, but this is not secure as far as I know and I'd prefer to just double click the file...
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed commit from @mweinelt to release-20.09 « firefox-esr: 78.7.1esr -> 78.8.0esr »: https://git.io/JtFW5
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<chisui>
Is there a comprehensive list of differences between the old and new cli? I tried to migrate to the new one some time ago, but it didn't have the features that I needed, so I use a combination of both.
<{^_^}>
chisui: 21 hours, 23 minutes ago <srk> groups won't appear after switch unless you restart your user session or log-in again with `su - username`
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<maralorn>
chisui: It is my impression, that the new ui is kinda purposefully underdocumented because it’s in experimental stage.
<deckweiss>
do I need to do something with kdeconnect before it works? The PC can not be seen in kdeconnect by other devices on the network and does not see any other devices itself.
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @marsam pushed commit from @buckley310 to release-20.09 « brave: 1.19.88 -> 1.20.110 »: https://git.io/JtF4E
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<deckweiss>
The home manager install guide mentions that I need to be able to build and install nix packages without switching to root. https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager#installation Does this mean without using "sudo -i" ?
<immae>
That’s the /home/deckweiss/.nix-defexpr/channels part of NIX_PATH
<deckweiss>
running that with sudo -i returns the same
<deckweiss>
Any idea how to fix this? The path indeed does not exist
<immae>
you should check your /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc, ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc first
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<immae>
(it could be a default in nixos config, too)
<tomberek>
In case this helps anyone: systemd tries to protect access to devices. So to allow systemd itself to write to /dev/nvidia, you can add something like this: systemd.services."container@".serviceConfig = { DeviceAllow=["/dev/nvidia0" "/dev/nvidiactl" "/dev/nvidia-modeset"]; };
<deckweiss>
The first few configs I had ran fine, but now every time I boot it hangs at "A start job is running for /sys/subsystem/net/devices/enp5s0" my config is https://pastebin.com/QyudfNsM
<zn29>
On nixos: if I run `set -o` in bash, I see the option `vi off`. If I run `nix-shell -p bash --run 'bash -c "set -o"'` I see the option `vi off`. However, if I run `nix-build` on a nix file that has, effectively `(import <nixpkgs> {}).bash`, then run that `bash` and inside run `set -o` there is no `vi` option whatsoever. All three instances of bash
<zn29>
have identical output for `bash --version`. Can someone explain the different sources / derivations of these three instances of bash?
<{^_^}>
[nix] @regnat pushed 6 commits to ca/copy-drv-outputs: https://git.io/JtFoD
<zn29>
Hang on... something's not right. I just tried to reproduce the third option minimally/directly with this: `nix-shell -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).bash' --run 'bash -c "set -o"' | grep ^vi`
<zn29>
-but that _does_ show the `vi` option. So there is something about my nix file that is selecting a different bash derivation…
<tpw_rules>
there's bash and bashInteractive. i don't know the exact difference but regular bash is built without a bunch of things useful and often necessary for interactivity and does weird things in that case
<zn29>
tpw_rules, thanks! That was it. I'm still a bit confused as to the difference between my last nix-shell with `-E` versus my nix file which was getting the `bash` attr from nixpkgs. When I switched the nix file to use `bashInteractive` everything works as expected for that build. But why does the `nix-shell -E` example appear to use
<zn29>
`bashInteractive` when it just says `bash`?
<tpw_rules>
i wonder if it's being shadowed because i think nix-shell uses the ambient bash when you call it
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<zn29>
```
<zn29>
nix-shell --pure -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).bash' --run '/run/current-system/sw/bin/which ba
<zn29>
sh'
<zn29>
```
<zn29>
Whoops, sorry for the paste error. The output of that is:
<zn29>
It would be nice to understand that mystery, but it's no longer a blocker for my setup…
<zn29>
My next goal: I am doing a somewhat unusual thing, where I have defined a derivation called "homebase" and that is the single item I install/upgrade with `nix-env -if /path/to/repo`. A bunch of packages I then install, like `tmux` doesn't have man page support. I suspect this has something to do with some derivations defining multiple outputs and a
<zn29>
separate one for man page support? How can I update my "homebase" derivation to ensure those dependencies include man pages?
<zn29>
I assume this is unusual because I assume most users either just use `nix-env` on a bunch of packages in an ad-hoc manner, or they use `home-manager`, or some combination of those. Does anyone else here take my approach?
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<KarlJoad>
On NixOS, I occasionally have slowdowns. When looking at htop, there is a nix daemon using a lot of resources for a short time. What could that be?
<yaymukund>
lordcirth_: interesting. would that look like..e.g. running nix-build to get a vm, and run it with e.g. qemu?
<lordcirth_>
yaymukund, you could use nix-build, but if you aren't on nixos already, you can just make a VM from the ISO, same as you would with a real install
<sterni>
attila_lendvai: I'd say either generate one script for each instance or let the script take an argument / read an environment variable
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<attila_lendvai>
sterni, hrm... maybe i should just require the full data directory in the script, including the node's id. why didn't i think of that?! it's good enough, as a first iteration at least... thanks!
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<attila_lendvai>
sterni, but out of curiosity, who would define the env variable? the service nix file can install system-wide env variables? can you point me to such an example, or to a search keyword?
<attila_lendvai>
sterni, i was too slow... i remember now: the issue is that a separate bee.yaml file is generated for each instance, but the bee-get-addr script needs these yaml files. i'll just request the user to provide them for now.
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<sterni>
attila_lendvai: I would only not set a global environment variable but wrap it with that specific variable in the place where it's called
<sterni>
attila_lendvai: or generate multiple wrappers of the same script with makeWrapper possibly
<attila_lendvai>
sterni, it's something the user will call
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<sterni>
attila_lendvai: ohhh
<attila_lendvai>
yeah, that's probably what will be needed... in the next version :)
<AmandaC>
Does a
<sterni>
attila_lendvai: then I'd generate the script in the module completely and generate a mapping name -> config file within it
<sterni>
attila_lendvai: then the user could write bee-get-addr <instance name> at least?!
<AmandaC>
Does anybody know if there's a particular reason samba.target is set to go after network.target not network-online.target? I'mnot that familiar with systemd's unit, butI noticed that samba came up before the network did, so samba-nmbd was only broadcasting on a 169 link-local address.
<AmandaC>
and I noticed that the systemd units linked in the module docs uses `after=network-online.target`
<AmandaC>
s/after/wants/
<attila_lendvai>
sterni, that would be nice, but that's currently beyond my level of nix expertise, unless i can look at an example where something like that is done
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<sterni>
attila_lendvai: if I understand correctly what you need then something like what I tried to demonstrate with this toy thing could help you: https://paste.textboard.org/b3b6c95f
<sterni>
attila_lendvai: basically you can use writeBashBin to generate build a bash script from a nix string and then generate some code like a bash switch statement implementing a mapping instance name → config file for example
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* attila_lendvai
makes notes
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<tad-lispy[m]>
Hello! I've just installed Element Desktop via Home Manager and there is no username / password prompt. Only option to log in is single sign on.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JtF5s
<attila_lendvai>
so, i cannot nixos-rebuild switch because the device file for /boot is wrong and it's not mounted, but i cannot edit /etc/fstab. i can't mount by hand, it does nothing, not even an error. what am i to do?
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<steveeJ>
attila_lendvai: why can't you mount it manually? you should be able to do so. you can always boot from live-medium and run `nixos-install` there, but you'd also have to mount the boot partition for that to fully work
<attila_lendvai>
steveeJ, i have no idea, but the mount /dev/sda1 /boot command simply does nothing. there's nothing mounted to /boot, but there's a (wrong) entry for that in /etc/fstab
<attila_lendvai>
hrm, seems like a half-baked nixos-rebuild switch brought it into a state where my ssh session was working, but the system was half-baked. e.g. i couldn't ssh back to it. luckily an old generation from the partition seems to be starting up after a reboot.
<sterni>
ScottHDev5: apparently you can only specify actually named arguments with --arg and --argstr
<sterni>
ScottHDev5: i. e. if builtins.functionArgs doesn't list the arguments for that function it is not possible to provide it as an argument
<attila_lendvai>
damn, "the root account is locked". i can't log in after the reboot. the system is hosed... argh! this will wait until tomorrow...
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<yaymukund>
i notice that in the nix install instructions, it instructs you to partition your disk using whatever tool you like. so am i to understand that things like lvm, luks, and partitioning are outside of nix's scope?
<yaymukund>
not meant as any sort of criticism, btw. just wrapping my head around this on my first day :)
<ScottHDev5>
sterni ok, maybe a patch for that would be nice, I'll try to make a PR
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<gchristensen>
yaymukund: nix won't create those things, correct
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<Orbstheorem>
How do I build all packages in a flake?
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<drozdziak1>
How do I build a stack Haskell package without haskell.nix? I'd love to ship a Haskell package without having people add a custom cache or bootstrapping GHC
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<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: You can just use callCabal2nix
<dminuoso>
You dont need haskell.nix
<dminuoso>
Oh hold on, stack
<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: Mmm. stack has nix integration, it should just be `stack build` I think?
<Orbstheorem>
`stack build` works for me on non-nix projects.
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<drozdziak1>
dminuoso: Yeah, but 20.09 doesn't have ghc 8.10.4 and I can only specify a nixpkgs directory path
<drozdziak1>
it supports "custom shell files" but those don't influence ghc choice afaict
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<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: Ah I recently had that discussion. You can just pull that ghc in from unstable
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<drozdziak1>
dminuoso: How do I do that? (Haskell newbie here)
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<Orbstheorem>
(about flakes) I've found that I should rather use `nix flake check`. How do I register my application tests in flakes?
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<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: Good question, I had some ideas, but they could be rather whacky.
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<drozdziak1>
dminuoso: I see, what are the less-than-ideal options?
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<dminuoso>
You could overlay nixpkgs such that haskell.compiler.ghc8104 is overlaid from the unstable channel
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<dminuoso>
Then stack could find it
<dminuoso>
Or, just provide a simple shell.nix that provides a different nixpkgs
<dminuoso>
For the project
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<drozdziak1>
dminuoso: Doesn't sound that bad, I might try that, I just hope it won't confuse the cache
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<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: Personally I'd probably just go for the `shell.nix` trick.
<dminuoso>
Since you probably want this behavior scoped to just the project. Also it's less hassle to set up
<dminuoso>
(And it's more transparent if you later forget about it)
<dminuoso>
Mmm. I keep forgetting what <nixpkgs> really means.
<ar>
drozdziak1: q3k's paste has expired cert
<dminuoso>
ar: not just that, and they demand javascript!
<dminuoso>
I find both to be highly offensive
<drozdziak1>
dminuoso: Well it's client-side encrypted :P
<ar>
key is in the #part of the url, so server doesn't see it explicitly in logs
<dminuoso>
Im not sure what the value here is.
<dminuoso>
"the server" means whoever breaks open the tls
<dminuoso>
And whoever breaks open the tls is gonna see the key.
<drozdziak1>
dminuoso Not for this particular case, it's just a pastebin I like, I just pasted a stack output complaining about no ghc8104 in <nixpkgs>. In case I need to post something else, do you have a favorite pastebin?
<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: Its all good, I already saw it.
<dminuoso>
22:33:39 dminuoso | Mmm. I keep forgetting what <nixpkgs> really means.
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<dminuoso>
drozdziak1: It should be enough that you just set NIX_PATH="nixpkgs=${yourUnstableNix}"
<clever>
gchristensen: and this is then on the client side, how to list and connect (disconnect is -u instead of -l)
<gchristensen>
nice ...
<gchristensen>
what do you use iscsi for?
<ajs124>
gchristensen: I happen to have a module for targetcli (which uses the kernel target), if you prefer that over tgtd
<clever>
gchristensen: for my main desktop, i use it to store games for steam, because nfs has trouble with steam
<gchristensen>
nice
<gchristensen>
ajs124: what is the advantage?
<clever>
gchristensen: i did also boot some rpi's with iscsi root, because nfs has trouble with a 64bit server and 32bit client
<gchristensen>
nice
<gchristensen>
oh yeah I remember seeing that
<ajs124>
clever: hah, we're actually running pis from iscsi roots
<clever>
gchristensen: and at one point, i was booting my laptop from iscsi, and ipxe was emulating legacy ide, so grub didnt even need netboot support
<ajs124>
gchristensen: good question, don't remember. it's in kernel space?
<clever>
ajs124: this module handles iscsi root in the initrd, i wrote it before the initrd had network support
<gchristensen>
ah, it is probably more than I need :P I just want to play with nixos using iscsi in a very small scenario, the real life environment has some fancy iscsi thing
<gchristensen>
ah ha!
<ajs124>
clever: yup, we have something like that as well^^
<clever>
gchristensen: i also have an iscsi target for my windows boot to use, to share some disk space with it, without dealing with samba
<gchristensen>
so cool
<ajs124>
I'm one of the 3 people that uses the windows 10 integrated NFS client. Still not sure why that ever works, tbh…
<clever>
ajs124: windows has nfs support?? lol
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<clever>
in the past, i tried running WoW on samba to a linux server
<clever>
then i discovered, it saves add-on state to disk, one byte at a time
<ToxicFrog>
It has NFS support but there are some functionality gaps in it which make it unsuitable for some use cases
<gchristensen>
,s,
<clever>
so you pay a full round-trip to the samba server, for each byte in the file
<ToxicFrog>
OW
<gchristensen>
wow.
<clever>
yes
<ToxicFrog>
Back in the day I played FF7 installed to a Samba share over 10base2 and that was fine, although it took three days to install
<clever>
thats why i now use iscsi, so windows treats it as a BLOCk device, and only sends WHOLE BLOCKS to the server
<ar>
clever: wow-wotlk?
<ar>
clever: afaik that runs on linux
<clever>
ar: i forget which expansion pack i was running then
<clever>
ar: i have since played the game fully on linux as well
<ar>
clever: as for the nfs client in windows, i remember some 10 years ago or so, it didn't automatically remount drives after a reboot, if the server which served the nfs share also shared samba shares
<gchristensen>
so all these iscsi people, is there a reason we have no iscsi module? :)
<ar>
clever: (even if those samba shares were not accessed/accessible by said windows install)
<ajs124>
we have systemd support from open-iscsi, I think
<ajs124>
gchristensen: #101015
<clever>
gchristensen: i never got my modules into a stable state
<gchristensen>
ajs124: closed b/c no perceived interest?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #114416 → lib/licenses: fix regression removing shortName for some licenses → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/114416
<ajs124>
gchristensen: closed because I'm lazy and can't be bothered. so basically, yes.
<gchristensen>
:D
<clever>
dont look at the list of PR's ive opened and never followed up on!, lol
<gchristensen>
same
<gchristensen>
cool, well looks like I'm learning something about iscsi next week :P thank you both!
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<jkachmar>
do any of y'all know whether `nix profile` looks anywhere in particular for stuff like `allowUnfree = true`?
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<jkachmar>
I've got my `$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/nixpkgs/config.nix` file set up w/ `{ allowUnfree = true; }`, and I know at least the `nixpkgs` present on my `NIX_PATH` has `config.allowUnfree = true`, but when I try to install an unfree package (e.g. `_1Password`) it complains
<gchristensen>
jkachmar: it might be useful to know that Nix itself has no about "freeness", and it is 100% a Nixpkgs invention
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<jkachmar>
that's a good point, thanks gchristensen! I wonder if there might be something weird going on with the nixpkgs versions I've installed in my registry
<clever>
gchristensen: but i think `nix profile` is using the flake api, and wont allow impure access to config.nix?
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<cole-h>
Does our stage-1 log to anywhere on disk?
<clever>
cole-h: i think only on successfull boot
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<cole-h>
OK, where would that be?
<cole-h>
(got a successful boot, but had some "spam" in stage-1 that scrolled too fast to see)
<cole-h>
wondering how badly I fscked my config :P
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<clever>
[root@amd-nixos:~]# journalctl -b 0
<clever>
Feb 22 20:54:46 amd-nixos stage-1-init: loading module spl...
<clever>
Feb 22 20:54:46 amd-nixos stage-1-init: loading module dm_mod...
<clever>
cole-h: those lines came from stage-1
<cole-h>
clever: Ah, I needed to search for stage-1
<cole-h>
Sure would be nice if `extraPools` were imported in stage-1 so I could add them to `requestEncryptionCredentials`...
<jkachmar>
the only thing I can think of is that maybe the flake `inputs` that are used to construct the registry entries don't have `allowUnfree` set?