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<simpson>
o_miguel: There's code to explicitly support "enable" options, so yes, they should, unless you have a good reason otherwise.
<hazel>
ugh I hate this program... it *embeds HTML into the binary*...
<hazel>
so stripping it does a bad
<glittershark>
rip
<o_miguel>
because I feel a bit lost with installing some service that does not have a wiki page... I wonder how more experienced users approach this? Just browse through the "service.someservice.*" options and play around?
<hazel>
absolutely horrid to package
<glittershark>
o_miguel: I read the source code
<hazel>
o_miguel: search the NixOS options. if it's there, use those options, maybe read the code. otherwise, write your own service.
<simpson>
Also the service probably has upstream documentation, and NixOS modules usually use the same names for the same settings.
<energizer>
o_miguel: i read the source of the service
<o_miguel>
ok makes sense. have to start with some simple one for a start.. does setting "service.foo.enable=true" imply that some package foo will be auto-included in my build? I also assume that I should preferably have a look at the build-instructions then as well.
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<ornxka_>
what is the easiest way to uninstall something from the nix store?
<ornxka_>
nix-store --delete --ignore-liveliness prints out a bunch of stuff about stale links
<cole-h>
How do you mean delete from the store?
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<ornxka_>
i want to test the update mechanism of nix-env so i want to be able to easily run it multiple times, which means deleting the packages i am testing on from the store so i can run it again
<ornxka_>
so, i want to uninstall it from the current generation, and also to delete it from the store so that updating again will trigger a rebuild of the package in question
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<hazel>
i'm having issues with racket's `raco exe` on NixOS
<samueldr>
because it's a hack, not because it doesn't work :)
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<hoverbear>
This one is interesting -- I'm using the mozilla overlay so technically I could use the native compiler and point it at a cross root...Hmmm...
<pjt_tmp>
energizer: that has quite the 'code smell' type-feel for me. I'd look for the closest possibly way to do it in the non-module way. There's gotta be some override solution in the likes of 'this module but minus one flag'.
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/Jfbaw
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[nixpkgs] @tmplt opened pull request #91146 → nixos/zfs-replication: document expected lz4 on host system → https://git.io/JfbaP
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<pjt_tmp>
anyone here who has been able to get KDE connect working? Whatever starts the daemon isn't in my path
<pjt_tmp>
I found what I think is it and manually invoked it with ./nix/store/AAAAAAAA[...]/bin/share/thing.sh (or something) and seemed to get...nothing.
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[nixpkgs] @JJJollyjim opened pull request #91147 → bluez: disable flaky test → https://git.io/JfbVt
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<JJJollyjim>
^ ofborg just gave me a `10.rebuild-linux: 501-1000`
<JJJollyjim>
is that high enough to switch it to staging?
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<Nicholas>
Hi I'm trying to install NixOS but I get an error message after following the directions from the website special device /dev/disk/by-label/boot does not exist.
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<clever>
agsdheidjd: `eval $installPhase` will eat all of the newlines, you must quote the var to keep them intact
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<wedens[m]>
how do I have a cake and eat it? :D I want to use home-manager (and already do) to configure polybar (as an example), but I also want to see changes quickly when I'm tweaking it. doing `nixos-rebuild --fast test` and restarting polybar is not as fast as I'd like.
<clever>
avn: as an example, just `nixops create -d house house.nix` and then `nixops deploy -d house` to deploy everything
<delroth>
I use morph because I don't want nixops doing random ssh key management shit behind my back
<clever>
it will ssh into the 2 IP's listed, and take deploy the config
<delroth>
but if you're just going to deploy on bare metal there is very little difference in what morph and nixops will allow you to do
<timokau[m]>
symphorien: At some point I'll probably add back some sort of "I didn't understand you" message when something looks like a command but couldn't be parsed. For now I'm trying to be as conservative as possible. Posting comments is a bit scary because of the potential for feedback loops
<clever>
when using the none backend, nixops creates its own private keypairs, and lets itself in as root
<xwvvvvwx>
gchristensen: why will it be disabled soon?
<gchristensen>
because it is experimental. people have assumed it isn't experimental, but it is
<jco>
symphorien: very nice, will try this. Nixos seems to handle well the downgrade of packages compared to classic linux package managers
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<xwvvvvwx>
gchristensen: show-derivation is experimental, or the new nix command is?
<gulplante>
iirc there is a way to ergonomically switch channels with `nix run` or `nix-shell` like channel:some-tag. Is there a more brief way than `nix-shell -I nixpkgs=long-github-url`?
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<xwvvvvwx>
gulplante: you can do e.g. `-I nixpkgs=channel:nixos-unstable`
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<xwvvvvwx>
gchristensen: but why remove show-derivation? Just because the interface is going to change, or because the command itself is problematic in some way?
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<numkem>
what are the supported log-compression options in hydra through the store_uri parameter? I've tried br which works but I can't show the logs. My understanding is my browser can't handle hem
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<hazel>
hi, does anyone have an example of a working NixOS Nextcloud setup? I followed the section in the manual but I'm having some extraneous issues -- namely that I can't connect with the client
<hazel>
it hangs forever when the client pulls up the signin page and I have to press "Grant Access"...
<clever>
what about `nix-channel --list` without root
<jco>
oh i did it without root from the start :facepalm:
<clever>
yeah, each user has its own channel list
<clever>
and root only uses root's list
<jco>
right, thanks
<jco>
however the same error occurs
<clever>
did you --update again?
<jco>
ls /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/ contains nixos and manifest.nix
<jco>
clever: yes, this add nixos-19.03 in /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/, but when i do: sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade --show-trace
<clever>
`nixos-rebuild --upgrade` only runs `nix-channel --update nixos`
<jco>
then the error: nixos-19.03 not in nix path is raised
<clever>
so it wont fetch nixos-19.03, only nixos
<jco>
and nixos-19.03 disappears in the directory
<jco>
ah
<clever>
you need to run --update yourself
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #91163 → Add buoto/gotests-vim as vim plugins → https://git.io/Jfbip
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[nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JfbHQ
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[nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to release-20.03 « nextcloud19: init at 19.0.0 »: https://git.io/JfbHA
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<Baughn>
I finally got my desktop hardware back to a place where running nixos makes sense.
<Baughn>
*Missed* this.
<Baughn>
It's just a pity that the LTS kernels never support recent hardware. :X
<clever>
Baughn: my desktop cant even run memtest now, it hard reboots itself!
<Baughn>
Heh. Which version of memtest, though?
<clever>
the nixos build
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<Baughn>
Ah yes. That one doesn't work on any recent hardware.
<clever>
6 year old system, with a mobo from 2012
<veleiro>
hello, can 'nix-prefetch-url' unpack .tar.xz? latest versions of mesa seem to only provide .tar.xz
<Baughn>
Try it and see?
<clever>
veleiro: --unpack
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<Baughn>
clever: Yes, 'recent' is becoming loose.
<clever>
Baughn: and memtest has worked on this system in the past
<Baughn>
It hasn't ever worked for me, I suppose is the point. There's versions of memtest floating around which do, but those have stronger restrictions on redistribution.
<Baughn>
Were you by chance booting in BIOS mode when it did?
<clever>
yeah, and i believe i still am
<ar>
clever: is it just an issue with memetest from nixos, or a general problem with recent memetest?
<clever>
the system has begun having major stability problems
<veleiro>
clever: --unpack for me says it doesnt look like a tar archive, might it have something to do with this nixos on arm?
<MichaelRaskin>
Wouldn't it be help with procrastinating from designing a new one?
<Baughn>
Yeah, it's in the resources.
<Baughn>
It's easy to get some parts of the build wrong, though.
<gchristensen>
yeao
<clever>
Baughn: i recently got 3x16tb drives to upgrade my nas
<MichaelRaskin>
I have a feeling that all the computing hardware available nowadays is wrong in some way
<veleiro>
clever: hmm good point, nix store archive it retrieved is empty
<veleiro>
this helps, thanks!
<clever>
Baughn: then discovered i had grabbed SAS disks by accident
<Baughn>
Ouch.
<clever>
$100 cheaper per disk
<clever>
but now i need a sas controller
<Baughn>
MichaelRaskin: Dunno. It seems easier than ever.
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<veleiro>
looks like it was something to do with fetching from the ftp address because https worked
<clever>
,tofu veleiro
<{^_^}>
veleiro: To get a sha256 hash of a new source, you can use the Trust On First Use model: use probably-wrong hash (for example: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) then replace it with the correct hash Nix expected. See: tofu-vim
<Baughn>
There are still sharp corners, like DDR4 never running at nominal speed without tweaks, but there used to be lots more.
<bbigras>
Is there an editor tor the releases notes xml files?
<Baughn>
clever: That's funny. Usually SAS is more expensive.
<Baughn>
Though at 16TB... *wince*
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<veleiro>
actually i dont understand fetchurl works enough, i havent seen what happens when its passed an array of urls
<Yaniel>
heh, I hope those 10T disks will last for a while in my NAS
<clever>
veleiro: it tries each url, until one works
<Yaniel>
had to actually rush their staggered upgrade a bit as it seems they are no longer produced
<gchristensen>
Yaniel: one of my 10T disks is busted and I'm playing chicken with replacing it :x
<clever>
Yaniel: i currently have 3x4tb, but one of the disks is begining to have write errors under zfs
<Yaniel>
also I'm considering biting the bullet on a freenas system to replace this qnap box
<Yaniel>
can't seem to get borg running on it
<veleiro>
aaah
<Yaniel>
and going over smb is just suffering
<clever>
i could just replace the failing 4tb with another 4tb, but
<clever>
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
<clever>
nas:/nas 6.6T 6.6T 17G 100% /nas
<clever>
its rather full, why not upgrade?
<Yaniel>
transfer a few dozen mb -> wait for minutes as it flushes its buffers to disk
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<Baughn>
Doesn't ZFS more or less *break* when it's that full?
<clever>
it uses a more cpu intensive algo to decide which blocks to write to
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[nixpkgs] @Patryk27 opened pull request #91182 → pcloud: Init at 1.8.4 → https://git.io/Jfb7v
<clever>
Baughn: ok, this is fishy, i grabbed a fresh memtest from memtest86.com, its EFI based, looks totally different, and it gets to test 4 without problems
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[nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @nlewo to release-20.03 « nixos/nextcloud: add occ internal option »: https://git.io/Jfb75
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<jumper149>
I would like to build a derivation for a multi-package cabal project. Do I have to build it manually with nix or can nix use my cabal.project file?
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<jumper149>
If you can't help me with that, you might be able to show me where callCabal2nix is defined
<clever>
jumper149: grep nixpkgs for callCabal2nix
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[nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Jfb5R
<Thra11>
When a package is cross-compiled, is it possible to refer explicitly to the host platform (as opposed to build platform) version of a package's output path?
<clever>
Thra11: nativeBuildInputs vs buildInputs
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<craftyguy>
I'm trying to run something out of a python venv, but it fails because it cannot find libstdc++ (likely needs some patching to find it in nixos?). I have read this wiki page on using a venv in nixos: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Python#Python_virtual_environment
<craftyguy>
but do people here just generally avoid that and package everything normally in pypi manually to install in a nix shell, or ??
<Thra11>
clever: Yes, but supposing I need to set a flag along the lines of "something=${somepackage}/bin/whatever"?
<AmandaC>
If I want to temporarially edit /etc/nix/nix.conf what should I do? ( I want to enable an additional cache before a build that would use that cache, to enable that cache, will work properly (python2.7-apsw being broken has broken this machine for a few days) )
<another_wanderer>
Maybe I'll package it myself, but not in the nearest future as I'm not so familiar with the nix ecosystem
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<sshow>
cole-h++
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<karetsu>
gnome-session is behaving strangely for me on unstable, using `gnome-session --systemd` is the only way to get my gnome preferences (gtk theme for example) working in xmonad (using nothing or --builtin do not work) yet as soon as that is invoked I get the gnome fail whale which allows gnome-session to continue running so long as I never hit 'log out' - is this known/how do I approach getting the
<karetsu>
info I need to fix it?
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<numkem>
I've been looking at pkgs.releaseTools.channel but I can't seem to import it correctly, what should be format of the source? A function taking a set?
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<lovesegfault>
cole-h: goddamnit
<cole-h>
I should be saying that to you >:(
<cole-h>
:P
<lovesegfault>
Fixed :D
<cole-h>
thx
<lovesegfault>
thanks for catching that
<lovesegfault>
Also: the beets drv is what made me come from Gentoo to NixOS
<lovesegfault>
It's so nicely written
<cole-h>
lovesegfault: Maybe the optional `enableZero` should be `enableWeb || enableZero` since they add the same dep?
<lovesegfault>
cole-h: Sure, one moment
<cole-h>
No, do it instantly, the second I suggested it >:(
<lovesegfault>
Done D:
<cole-h>
>> with stdenv.lib;
<cole-h>
:'(
<lovesegfault>
It's beautiful
<lovesegfault>
Try building it though
<lovesegfault>
it's borked
<lovesegfault>
How do I disable tests on a python pkg
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<hazel>
how do I pull submodules with builtins.fetchGit?
<lovesegfault>
Oh, derp, I was just overlaying wrong
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<hazel>
also, can I point nginx to the nix store?
<hazel>
I'm building my website as a derivation
<cole-h>
Don't think you can (or at least I haven't been able to find a way). But you can in `pkgs.fetchgit` and `pkgs.fetchFromGitHub`
<hazel>
cole-h: how do I do it with pkgs.fetchgit then?
<cole-h>
`fetchSubmodules = true;`
<hazel>
is it url/ref/rev?
<lovesegfault>
url,rev,sha
<hazel>
do I need sha?
<cole-h>
Yes
<cole-h>
It's a fixed-output derivation
<lovesegfault>
You always need the sha
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<cole-h>
Not always
<cole-h>
builtins.fetchTarball and builtins.fetchGit don't
<lovesegfault>
Sure, if it's not a fod you don't need a sha, but most fetchers are and IMHO you shouldn't fetch without a fixed output :D
<cole-h>
:^)
<clever>
cole-h: those arent derivations
<cole-h>
What, fetchTarball and fetchGit? Yeah, I know.
<cole-h>
pkgs.fetchgit and pkgs.fetchFromGitHub are
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<lovesegfault>
Who does the python package bumps>
<lovesegfault>
*?
<lovesegfault>
It's j*nringer and someone else
<gchristensen>
FRidh
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<lovesegfault>
gchristensen++
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<cole-h>
(Don't think jonringer uses IRC, so you don't need to ping-censor them :P )
<lovesegfault>
FRidh++
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<jonathan5>
I am trying to install the node package firebase-tools, but it is not working.
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<lovesegfault>
jonathan5: Can you give some more detail on _how_ it's not working?
<meh`>
how do I disable running tests on a specific python package? kind of having trouble figuring out what to override and how, putting this in my overlays didn't help https://a.uguu.se/f3IrdKe0rYl2_last.png
<jonathan5>
`nix-env -iA upkgs.nodePackages.firebase-tools` is failing
<hazel>
with what error?
<jonathan5>
Really?! I figured it out...
<jonathan5>
I have my nix channel names different on this computer.
<lovesegfault>
meh`: I do something like self: super: { pythonPackages = super.pythonPackages.extend (self: super: { myPythonPackage = super.myPythonPackage.overrideAttrs (oldAttrs: { doCheck = false; }); }) }
<lovesegfault>
jonathan5: :D
<lovesegfault>
:q
<lovesegfault>
oops
<meh`>
lovesegfault, I'll give that a shot, thanks
<hazel>
is it possible to have nginx point to the nix store? if not, how do I serve files from the nix store?
<lovesegfault>
hazel: The nix store is just a place in your FS. You can point anything to it as long as it's RO access
<cole-h>
Looks like it's only the webplugin tests...
<meh`>
lovesegfault, would that be the entire overlay? seems like extend is not a thing, or I'm doing something dumb
<lovesegfault>
meh`: Show me how you're doing it :)
<lovesegfault>
cole-h: correct
<cole-h>
Cool and it fails to test if you don't build with web or zero... lol
<cole-h>
`doCheck = false;` it is 😸
<jonathan5>
Um, okay. It is not failing with "`firebase-tools` in selected path not found". I tryed replacing "-" with "_" and removing it. Is there a way to query what is in a path?
<MtotheM>
I'm trying to setup nix on Arch Linux. and it worked fine. but when I go to update the channel it can't find bash. what could cause this I wonder? Cause it clearly exists on the system. https://pastebin.com/vKs30tHz
<MtotheM>
I figured it out, was just confused about naming conventions
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<sshow>
how can I add an additional file in a package override? I want to add a file to $out/etc/pkg/foo, but not sure which mkderivation step I should add it to?
<sshow>
editing postFixup seems to trigger a rebuild of the package. Any other way I can add a text file to its output directory without building?
<clever>
cole-h: exactly
<numkem>
cole-h++ thanks :)
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<numkem>
clever: I found old logs regarding someone going through the same process I'm doing right now and he asked you if you were using channels, at the time you said no, has it changed?
<clever>
numkem: we are now using direnv to set $NIX_PATH when you cd into the right dir
<clever>
numkem: and i think that gets the nixpkgs rev from niv, for most repos
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<numkem>
clever: so one repo that has the overlay and the sources are handled by niv?
<lovesegfault>
meh`: Other than pointing you towards clever for a possible answer, nope :)
<meh`>
did clever say anything else? :P
<meh`>
this issue started happening after the big python package upgrade, trying to get a temporary work around going so I can at least switch the system, was too dumb and ran garbage collection so can't rollback the channel either
<clever>
numkem: theres now one repo for each type of cluster, which may pull things from a shared repo, and also pull overlays from the repo that holds for src for each program
<numkem>
clever: do you have a default.nix in each repo that contains the code or it's more alike to nixpkgs where it's seperate? or it sounds like a monorepo wth src code and the package definitions?
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<ivan>
is anyone else running hardened nixos unstable/master? could you please tell me if this segfaults? rustup install stable --no-self-update && cargo new --bin deleteme && cd deleteme && cargo build
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<clever>
numkem: each repo has its own default.nix, for loading a per-repo overlay, that defines the packages
<clever>
numkem: and things like ci-ops then pulls all of the otherlays together i believe
<MtotheM>
hmm. I don't think nix is working
<MtotheM>
`nix-env -u` just killed itself
<cole-h>
How much RAM do you have?
<cole-h>
OOM killer might have gotten involved.
<MtotheM>
1gb
<manveru>
uh...
<cole-h>
If you don't have any swap, that probably isn't enough.
<cole-h>
Well, even if you do have swap
<cole-h>
That probably isn't enough
<cole-h>
lol
<numkem>
thanks for the info clever++!
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<meh`>
yeah, I found the minimum workable is 1GB of RAM + 2GB swap
<MtotheM>
I guess so. this is an embedded device
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<MtotheM>
Trying with a swap file now. let's see
<manveru>
it's better if you avoid plain `nix-env` then... and build on a bigger host and just copy over
<MtotheM>
you can do that? nice
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<cole-h>
nix-copy-closure
<MtotheM>
My final plan with this is to be able to deploy systems to my raspberry pi's without re-flashing them
<manveru>
`nixos-rebuild --target-host` then
<MtotheM>
yeah. just wanna toy with nix for now
<manveru>
i deploy to my pi on the other side of the world :)
<MtotheM>
I have similar ideas in mind. right now when I want to deploy a system it's really time consuming and generally I need physicals access to the Pi. being able to craft a system locally and just push it is really appealing.
<manveru>
the zsh config itself can be done with home-manager
<Hayden[m]>
* manveru:Can I do that in home-manager?
<MtotheM>
should be enough to just add it to the package list and then define it as your default shell
<Hayden[m]>
Right. I mean, I have `pkgs.zsh` in my `home.packages` list in `home.nix`, I just wondered if there was a `home.shell` option I was missing or anything similar.
<Hayden[m]>
Thanks anyway, guys :)
<manveru>
Hayden[m]: look through the home-manager options, there's a ton, but the login shell has to be done on system level...
<manveru>
and instead of adding it to packages, set `programs.zsh.enable = true;`
<Hayden[m]>
Yeah, I just remembered I had that set up there
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<Hayden[m]>
So there won't be a conflict if I set `shell = pkgs.zsh` in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix`?
<MtotheM>
can also set `shell = pkgs.zsh` for your user.
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<MtotheM>
is the VM / Container features part of nixOS and not nix itself?
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[nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #91198 → alacritty: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JfNeq
<mtn>
I'm trying to set up my python project with poetry so I can use poetry2nix, but I'm running into a few issues. I'm first trying to get the project set up using just poetry, but running poetry add for tensorflow, for example, doesn't work (error: `[Errno 28] No space left on device[Errno 28] No space left on device`)
<mtn>
This is the same error I get when just running `pip install tensorflow`
<mtn>
Is the solution to write the poetry config file by hand, and then pass it to nix?
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<mightybyte>
NinjaTrappeur: Glad to hear you like Zeus. I definitely need more help with it.
<mightybyte>
I haven't found any time to work on it in awhile.
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<mightybyte>
Anyone ever encounter this error?
<mightybyte>
libc++abi.dylib: terminating with uncaught exception of type nix::Interrupted: interrupted by the user
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<Hayden[m]>
Anyone know how to help me out with this issue with oh-my-zsh's `fzf` plugin?