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[nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #89278 → .github/stale.yml: restrict to issues, quote labels → https://git.io/Jf6DS
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<hazel>
anyone willing to help me troubleshoot my Rust build? i'm trying to get my package to run but it depends on FFI with a shared object that's not getting pulled
<simpson>
What did you want to have happen instead? The Nix store is immutable, and thankfully mounted in a way so that sudo can't just override the protection.
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<LevelChart8>
I want to have the expo-cli package on my machine.
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<simpson>
Okay; you'll probably want to do that via Nix, rather than via npm. In particular `npm -g` knows nothing of the Nix way and can't cope with our filesystem layout.
<LevelChart8>
Ok. I will look at that link.
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[nixpkgs] @rileyinman opened pull request #89282 → streamlink-twitch-gui-bin: init at 1.10.0 → https://git.io/Jf69Z
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<hazel>
and how do I set the laptop to hibernate after an hour in suspend-to-ram?
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<hazel>
notably a thinkpad t495 if that matters
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<hazel>
also my swap partition is an encrypted zfs zvol
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[nixpkgs] @avanov opened pull request #89283 → ATS2 0.4.0 and support for MacOS builds → https://git.io/Jf69z
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<clever>
hazel: last i checked, zfs doesnt support any form of hibernation
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<hazel>
rip
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<cole-h>
Unrelated, but the wiki has a warning that "You shouldn't use a ZVol as a swap device, as it can deadlock under memory pressure."
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<hazel>
here is the thing
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<hazel>
whatever
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<hazel>
i was planning to run this machine without swap but i wanted to hibernate
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<hazel>
guess I won't swap
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<gchristensen>
hazel: ZFS doesn't support hibernation, like at all, like don't do it
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<hazel>
yeah ok I won't
<hazel>
how is this machine reasonably secure when suspended to ram then?
<hazel>
with full-disk encryption
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<simpson>
I don't think that we have a comprehensive story against Evil Maid attacks yet. Maybe somebody should start a nixos.wiki page.
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<hazel>
like just swaylock probably isn't the best...
<gchristensen>
best bet is to shut off
<hazel>
rip me.
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<hazel>
idk why i did zfs honestly.
<hazel>
i mean, it's rather nice. but idk if that niceness is worth me shutting down the machine...
<hazel>
and my swap is gone.
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LevelChart8: "Failed at the @expo/traveling-fastlane-darwin@1.14.0 preinstall script." It seems that this dependency of expo-cli will need some custom builder support, and I don't really understand how that's properly done.
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<LevelChart8>
Thank you for looking into that.
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<hyper_ch>
I fail to see the point of sleep or hibernation... especially with fast NVMes nowadays
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<cole-h>
hyper_ch: Does `nix-channel --update` not work? The only reason s.no.o isn't updating is because the scraper got stuck and it appears nobody has had time to restart it/debug it.
<cole-h>
hyper_ch: Channels are definitely advancing, as you can see by the messages in here, as well as the fact that nix-unstable is from 3 days ago (due to an unrelated blocker), and not the 13 days s.no.o is reporting
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<cole-h>
The fact the channel updated means it's good. It's just that s.no.o didn't get the memo (because, as I've said, the scraper is down).
<cole-h>
(Well, as good as unstable can be)
<ldlework>
How to get attribute value by name?
<hyper_ch>
because status.nixos.org gives you a feedback if there are currently problems or not
<ldlework>
like this? levels."${level}"
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<ldlework>
hmm seems so
<cole-h>
Like I said, the fact that the channel has advanced means there isn't an issue.
<cole-h>
The only difference is that s.no.o hasn't updated.
<cole-h>
The contents of the channels are exactly the same, no matter what s.no.o says.
<cole-h>
ldlework: Yep. You don't necessarily need to quote it, unless you expect problematic characters, but's it's always good to be safe.
<energizer>
hyper_ch: how does it do that?
<cole-h>
energizer: I'd imagine just by having a green label when the channel updated in the last N days/hours
<hyper_ch>
energizer: by having no red flag on the channel status
<hyper_ch>
"build problem" means to me with latest update on that channel there are build problems
<energizer>
i mean about session restore
<samueldr>
hyper_ch: the channel will not advance if there is a problem
<cole-h>
hyper_ch: Wrong.
<cole-h>
hyper_ch: Channels will not advance if there are build problems (in the core packages).
<hyper_ch>
energizer: ask the kde people
<samueldr>
status.nixos.org is only a rehash of the status of the channels subdomain, which in turn, only advances when a revision successfully passes some criterias on hydra
<samueldr>
if there is an update to the channel, it passed the criteria
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[nixpkgs] @mpickering opened pull request #89292 → tracy: init at 0.6.3 → https://git.io/Jf6pi
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<jakobrs>
... how do I launch Plasma directly from the command line without going through the display manager?
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<sphalerite>
I want to define a filesystem per user, but this results in infinite recursion because users.users depends on filesystems (because some filesystems need a service user). How can I work around this?
<nixbitcoin>
Ah ok, is it even possible to create a passwordstore in a specific directory? I assume I need to override the PASSWORD_STORE_DIR environment variable.
<aveltras>
any idea how i can solve "postfix/postdrop[6859]: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/964990.6859: Permission denied" when using sendmail with a https://gitlab.com/simple-nixos-mailserver/nixos-mailserver installation ?
<LevelChart8>
I installed HIE on my Nix machine using these instructions: https://github.com/Infinisil/all-hies but I continue to get HIE Executable Missing errors in VSCode.
<LevelChart8>
I have restarted VSCode after installing.
<hexagoxel>
I want to build multiple derivations, and capture any combination of successes and failures. E.g. if the first and third succeed, but the second fails, I'd like an output that contained the (successful) output of the first derivation, the error message from the second derivation and the output of the third derivation.
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<hexagoxel>
What can I use for this? a) Is there a nix-language construct for this? b) Should I write a derivation that recursively calls nix-build and captures the stderr? c) just write a plain bash script that call nix-build three times?
<hexagoxel>
bonus points if for a common derivation failing, causing all three to fail, you get only one error message in the output..
<hexagoxel>
(is there a "build the intersection of the requisites of these derivations" command?)
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<infinisil>
LevelChart8: Do you have the hie executable in your path?
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<LevelChart8>
Likely not as I don't know what that means offhand. I will look into it. Thank you.
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[nixpkgs] @berbiche opened pull request #89309 → mpvmenu: init at unstable-2018-10-23 → https://git.io/Jfikb
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<infinisil>
LevelChart8: If you open a terminal and type `which hie`, what do you get?
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<reirob>
Hello NixOS people
<reirob>
Coming here again, to get hopefully some help
<reirob>
My situation is as follows: I have some Haskell program, that I used to compile with stack.
<reirob>
Now that I have switched to NixOS I would like to compile it with nix-env
<reirob>
However it says that some of the package is broken
<reirob>
It tells me the following:
<reirob>
error: Package ‘pinchot-0.24.0.0’ in /nix/store/vibyf5af9v3qxlfsj9j25khi0h3c38bd-nixos-20.03.1950.48723f48ab9/nixos/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-packages.nix:188125 is marked as broken, refusing to evaluate.
<reirob>
It suggests to add allowBroken = true; to ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix
<reirob>
But it didn't help
<reirob>
From what I could understand it is that the pinchot package that I use has not been updated for a while and it does not build any more because one of its dependencies changed and are not compatible any more
<reirob>
So, I would like to hear the suggestions from the people here, what can I do?
<reirob>
If there is somebody knowledgeable
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<simpson>
reirob: You could try removing `broken = true;` from pinchot. I have no idea what will happen. I waited a few minutes for the git-blame to load, and it appears that the broken annotation was added as part of a routine package update, with no comment; it might well be wrong.
<reirob>
@simpson: Thank you! I try this and let you know
<reirob>
Did it, now it tries to build the pinchot package, but fails
<reirob>
There are several errors in Pinchot, this is probably why it is broken
<reirob>
Any other suggestions?
<simpson>
Not really. Like, if it really *is* broken, then what would you hope for? Hackage doesn't list any newer versions.
<reirob>
From what I understand, it is that Pinchot worked with an older version of Earley package. But in the meantime Earley evolved
<reirob>
And Pinchot does not work anymore with the newest Earley package
<reirob>
Is there a way for me to install the build the older Earley package and try to make with this Pinchot build?
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<simpson>
I think so; I'm not practiced with Stack, though.
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<reirob>
With stack, before I installed nixos, what I did I was pinning it to an old lts set, where pinchot still worked. But I don't know if there is something similar with nix
<reirob>
@simpson, do you think it make sense for me to ask haskell people about this? I mean in the #haskell channel? Maybe they have a suggestion how to fix the pinchot package?
<simpson>
I'm not sure if there's old Stackage snapshots packaged, but you could use an old nixpkgs, I suppose.
<simpson>
reirob: They might well suggest to hack on Pinchot to fix it. I don't know what else might be done.
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<reirob>
I would try to hack on the Pinchot package, but I never worked on source code from packages from other people. Do you have any pointers to documents about how to do this?
<LevelChart8>
which: no hie in (/run/wrappers/bin:/home/levelchart8/.nix-profile/bin:/etc/profiles/per-user/levelchart8/bin:/nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin:/run/current-system/sw/bin)
<evanjs>
gustavderdrache: hey it was a few weeks ago but finally getting around to the node2nix stuff again; anything you can make of this? https://pastebin.com/9f9aG636
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<gustavderdrache>
hmm... interesting
<evanjs>
I should probably make a gist of the files I'm using (e.g. override.nix, etc) huh :P
<evanjs>
and right? x_x
<gustavderdrache>
i mean, it won't hurt :P
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<gustavderdrache>
Error: /nix/store/31gbvi4lfbcfy4h2bn0k5k1qwv08wgd6-node_copilot-frontend-0.0.0/lib/node_modules/copilot-frontend/src/environments/environment.ts is missing from the TypeScript compilation. Please make sure it is in your tsconfig via the 'files' or 'include' property.
<gustavderdrache>
this looks like your clue here - is this a package you're building?
<evanjs>
Yes, the environment file is included in the project I am building -- copilot-frontend
<gustavderdrache>
i'm not much of an angular expert, but i think you'll need to read up on https://goo.gl/jB3GVv and see what it recommends
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<gustavderdrache>
you'll need to either follow that or more or less symlink that package into your src/ directory for angular's compilation pipeline to pick it up
<evanjs>
wait wot
<gustavderdrache>
"The missing file seems to be part of a third party library. TS files in published libraries are often a sign of a badly packaged library."
<evanjs>
and this is despite the fact that I can `ng build` normally, right?
* gustavderdrache
squints
<gustavderdrache>
i... guess? :|
<gustavderdrache>
again, not much of an angular person
<gustavderdrache>
if i can see the sources i'd be better able to poke around
<gustavderdrache>
but right now i'm mostly just grasping at straws from the error log
<evanjs>
sure gotcha
<evanjs>
it would not surprise me if some stuff we're doing isn't "properly packaged" lol
<gustavderdrache>
haha
<infinisil>
LevelChart8: You missed this part in the all-hies readme: "After configuring the cache, proceed to the install instructions below."
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<gustavderdrache>
yeah, it's kind of irksome because you don't know it until you involve npm builds and npm just comes back with "yeah, no, guess again"
<evanjs>
right yeah
<evanjs>
I was mostly wondering what the differences are between my `npm run` and whatever this is doing
<gustavderdrache>
npm run is usually a dev-type build, IIRC
<evanjs>
*checks package.json*
<gustavderdrache>
also npm scripts have a *ton* of environment variables
<evanjs>
right okay, ng build in my case, sorry
<evanjs>
and yeah that too
<gustavderdrache>
you can try increasing the verbosity of the log output of npm and/or ng build
<gustavderdrache>
also check what NODE_ENV is in either case
<gustavderdrache>
if you can do `NODE_ENV=production ng build` in your terminal and get the same error, you might have a trail to follow
<LevelChart8>
infinisil: You're right. Thank you.
<evanjs>
gustavderdrache: alright, as I think I generated this with `-d` initially
<evanjs>
e.g. node2nix --development
<evanjs>
Specifies whether to do a development (non-production) deployment for a package.json deployment (false by default)
<gustavderdrache>
i think that only affects whether or not it pulls devDependencies or not
<evanjs>
which seems silly in our case
<evanjs>
as it includes @angular/cli, which is required to build it ...
<evanjs>
either we have it backwards or I'm thinking about it backwards
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @SCOTT-HAMILTON opened pull request #89312 → vim-async: Init at 2020-03-17 → https://git.io/Jfitl
<gustavderdrache>
i tried to use node2nix but i couldn't get it to understand that i had two package sets i wanted - the part with gulp+typescript and the part without
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<evanjs>
That might be what I'm confused about atm too
<evanjs>
*checks override.nix* okay I'm actually running `ng build` there, too. added --verbose though, so I guess I'll see if that helps
<evanjs>
gustavderdrache: literally what I was thinking and confused about re node2nix
<gustavderdrache>
yeah
<evanjs>
thanks for linking that; I think that clears all that up
<gustavderdrache>
any time!
<gustavderdrache>
node2nix is a good tool, but i think its mental model can't really handle the case where there is a transpilation/bundling/etc. build process
<evanjs>
yeah, right now, I'm trying to determine where the problem lies. Our package? Node2Nix? NG CLI? Bah
* gustavderdrache
points
<gustavderdrache>
the error is there
<gustavderdrache>
:P
<evanjs>
"In prior APF versions each entry point would have a `src` directory next to the .d.ts entry point and this directory contained individual d.ts files matching the structure of the original source code"
<evanjs>
....
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<evanjs>
we have a `src` dir...
<delroth>
long shot, but: anyone here using nixos on an aarch64 machine with 64KB pages? seems like patchelf breaks binaries by aligning segments to 4K regardless of max architectural support
<gustavderdrache>
there's a reason i left angular for react :P
<evanjs>
:P
<evanjs>
The versioning of the format is aligned with the versioning of Angular itself and we expect the format to evolve in forward-compatible way to support the needs of the Angular component and tooling ecosystem.
<evanjs>
Oh
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<evanjs>
Sooo just whatever we started with, then
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<gustavderdrache>
huh
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<evanjs>
but yes, I'm going to assuming that's what happened :D
<gustavderdrache>
lol
<gustavderdrache>
without seeing the files i think all i can do at this point is wish you luck :/
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<gustavderdrache>
i'm just not familiar enough with angular to feel like i can contribute much more
<evanjs>
sure that makes sense
<evanjs>
thanks!
<gustavderdrache>
(￣^￣)ゞ
<evanjs>
wish I could ping svanderburg from here lol
<jeregrine>
hello! I am new to nix/nixos and I'd like to get alacritty running on my pinebookpro. In order todo that it appears I need this patch https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/compare/master...cyclopsian:gles2 is someone able to help direct me in a way I can extend the default alacritty package with said patch?
<jeregrine>
seems like overlays might be the way to go?
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[nixpkgs] @delroth opened pull request #89317 → patchelf: increase the page size alignment on Aarch64 to support 64K pages → https://git.io/JfiqS
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[nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88744 → nixos/chromium: add example and update description → https://git.io/Jfa1x
<betaboon>
s anyone familiar with stage-1/stage-2 ? I'm trying to boot off of a read-only nfsroot. I'm writing an init-script that creates an overlay ontop of the ro nfsroot. I'm unsure if i should aim for completly replacing stage-1 and then handing over to stage-2 or just preparing for stage-1 and then handover to stage-1.
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<clever>
betaboon: there are already scripts to automate that with the current stage1
<betaboon>
clever: can you point me in the right direction ?
<betaboon>
clever: yeah i saw those. the problem i am running into is that stage-1 assumes / to be writable. which is not the case if i pass `nfsroot=` to kernelparams and the provided nfs-export is readonly
<clever>
betaboon: where is stage-1 assuming that the / is writable?
<clever>
betaboon: that is operating on the initrd / not the rootfs /
<clever>
betaboon: the rootfs you specify doesnt become / until line 602
<betaboon>
clever: if i understand correctly your assumtion is correct if i provide the nfs-mount via fileSystems. but not when booting the kernel with `nfsroot=`
<clever>
betaboon: are you actually using the initrd?
<betaboon>
clever: nope not using an initrd. just a kernel with builtin nfs-support
<clever>
betaboon: then stage-1 is never ran at all
<clever>
stage-1 lives in the initrd, and youve skipped it
<clever>
betaboon: stage1 is meant to be ran from the initrd, so running it like that will likely malfunction massively
<clever>
betaboon: it would be simpler to jsut use the initrd as it exists in nixpkgs, and set fileSystems like the examples i linked
<betaboon>
clever: the reason i am not using initrd (or an initrd with an init-script in it) is that `nfsroot=` will be ignored if there is a init-script in the initrd. thus i would have to define the nfs-mount in `fileSystems`. which i dont want to do, as i would have to hardcode the ip/dns-name of the nfs-server
<{^_^}>
[nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to 2.3-maintenance: https://git.io/JfiOM
<clever>
betaboon: does the / actually need to be nfs mounted? what if / was a tmpfs and just discarded? and nfs mount /nix/store/
<clever>
does it even need to be nfs?
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[nixpkgs] @poscat0x04 opened pull request #89322 → qv2ray: Init at 2.5.0 → https://git.io/JfiOD
<veleiro>
where would the php logs default to in nix?
<veleiro>
nixos*
<betaboon>
clever: i thought about just mounting the nix-store via nfs, but as stated above: then i would have to know the ip/hostname of the nfs-server to configure it using `fileSystems."/nix/store"` during "build-time" using nfsroot i just need to know that when delivering the kernel-commandline to the client
<cole-h>
veleiro: If you're using nginx, the nginx unit. Most likely the same with lighttpd or whatever else is out there
<clever>
betaboon: what about something like iscsi and squashfs?
<veleiro>
cole-h: nah its the built in php server
<cole-h>
Oh. Does `journalctl -u php` not work?
<veleiro>
yeah, its empty. maybe its supposed to be
<veleiro>
thanks
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<cole-h>
What are you doing to enable the built-in php server?
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<betaboon>
clever: I'm somewhat bound to using nfs
<d45h0>
stdout is c-style string , err is a error msg
<betaboon>
clever: thanks for your thoughts tho.
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<veleiro>
it must be something else then
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<clever>
betaboon: why are you bound to nfs?
<betaboon>
clever: does adding a kernel-commandline argument like "nfs-nix-store=" then processing that in `postDeviceCommands` and then mounting it using overlay in `fileSystems` sound sane to you ?
<clever>
betaboon: yeah
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<betaboon>
clever: and then using initrd with stage-1 init-script in it?
<clever>
betaboon: you can put the ro and rw parts at outside of the final rootfs as well, let me find an example
<cole-h>
veleiro: Might want to look into the PHP config (or make one)
<betaboon>
clever: i think i was thinking to much about the nfsroot route and the rootovl feature of dracut
<betaboon>
clever: I've kinda been trying to emulate that
<betaboon>
clever: cause it seemed like quite a neat solution
<clever>
betaboon: have you seen how the existing read-only netboot in nixos works?
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<betaboon>
clever: yeah i think so. iirc it has the nix-store as squashfs in the initrd, right ?
<veleiro>
cole-h: yes, i was being lazy. I've now switched to buildEnv with some extraConfig
<clever>
betaboon: this will use a tmpfs for / and fetch the squashfs from whatever root= was (which gets symlinked to /dev/root)
<betaboon>
clever: for context: i have to boot orangepi-lts (256/512MB ram) without an sd-card. flashed uboot to spi-flash that gets its u-boot script via tftp.
<clever>
betaboon: you could use your postDeviceCommands to symlink /dev/store to /nfs/nix-store.squash, and then fileSystems can mount it
<clever>
betaboon: ah, that sounds like you want iscsi-boot
<cole-h>
Man, I reallllly dislike when people push package updates directly to master...
<betaboon>
cole-h: i hate it when ppl push anything to master, imho there should never be commits to master without a PR/merge-commit
<cole-h>
Sometimes it's OK (like the kernel bumps). But for packages with multiple other maintainers... Just irks me that just because they have been involved with the project longer/have w+, they get to push their update directly to master while the rest of us have to wait.
<betaboon>
clever: using the iscsi approach can i boot multiple machines of the same share? that's why i was going for ro-nfs-export
<betaboon>
cole-h: i don't think there are any scenarios where it is ok
<clever>
betaboon: you would adjust it to just mount the /nix volume read-only
<clever>
betaboon: and leave / as a tmpfs
<clever>
betaboon: but in my case, i was using the pi's as builders, so they needed a writeable store
<clever>
betaboon: that code also pre-dates the initrd having proper network support, and some things may need tweaking
<clever>
> pkgs.tgtd
<{^_^}>
attribute 'tgtd' missing, at (string):315:1
<betaboon>
clever: what problems did you run into using nfs before switching to iscsi ?
<clever>
betaboon: my nfs server was using xfs, so inode numbers went over 4 billion (32bit limit)
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<clever>
betaboon: that means any program calling readdir from 32bit, needs to be compiled with large file support, or it just gets EOVERFLOW
<clever>
betaboon: and half a dozen things in nixpkgs are built without, so they get EOVERFLOW just trying to readdir()
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<clever>
betaboon: those same programs, also assume any non-zero return from readdir, means end of dir, and claim the directoryis then empty
<clever>
betaboon: leading to days of debugging, where X cant build because Y doesnt exist, yet Y clearly exists, and its not the nix sandbox
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<betaboon>
clever: just to reiterate the iscsi solution: run tgtd on the server (which could use a raw-disk-image-file as backing-store) then run iscsistart in initrd as demonstrated in your `iscsi-boot.nix`. doing this i take ro nix-store from iscsi, then i fileSystems create an overlay and everything should be fine ?
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<clever>
betaboon: yeah
<clever>
betaboon: the iscsi could export either a squashfs or just a plain ext4 fs
<betaboon>
clever: well seems like i have to learn about iscsi after all :/ thanks for your insight
<clever>
betaboon: and fileSystems could mount the ext4 by LABEL=
<clever>
betaboon: tgtd should have a flag to make it export read-only, to enforce things
<clever>
betaboon: oh, also...
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<clever>
maybe thats not an option
<clever>
i'll keep digging
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<ar>
oof
<clever>
gchristensen: and we got matrix'd hard, lol
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<clever>
betaboon: tgt is a bit of a confusing package, tgtadm is the c binary to control tgtd (the daemon)
<clever>
betaboon: but neither tgtadm not tgtd support its own config file!
<clever>
betaboon: instead, tgt-admin (a perl script) will parse the config file, and run tgtadm to change the daemon state to match the config
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<clever>
gchristensen: ive tried removing that, and making one systemd service per block-dev, but its got some bugs, and your wireguard changes kind of fit the same style i was aiming for
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<gchristensen>
hrm
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<judson>
Does anyone have an experience running the GSuite endpoint-verification tool under NixOS?
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<{^_^}>
[patchelf] @dstahlke opened pull request #201 → Added --output flag → https://git.io/JfiGq
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<hodapp>
hrm. wonder why torchvision is still at 0.2.1... judging by some logs I found, people battled with trying to upgrade it and failed
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<lassulus>
the matrix has entered
<bqv>
Oh thats why backlog is so short
<bqv>
I have joins and parts off
<bqv>
Utter spam these days
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<LevelChart8>
I don't understand how to put the LET ... IN ... statement in my configuration.nix in the "declarative installation" section: https://github.com/Infinisil/all-hies
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<LevelChart8>
I wrap my entire environment.Systempackages expression inside the "let" statement?
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<clever>
LevelChart8: you need to either do `{ environment.systemPackages = let ....; in [ .... ]; }`
<energizer>
LevelChart8: let [define some name-value pairs here] in [use those names here]
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<clever>
LevelChart8: or do `let ...; in { environment.systemPackages = [ ... ]; }`
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #89323 → nixos/nslcd: pull in network-online.target → https://git.io/JfiGM
<kraem>
,locate gsettings
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<{^_^}>
Found in packages: gcr, glib, ibus, evince, almanah, brasero, empathy, liferea, glib.bin, xfce.gvfs, foxtrotgps, glib.debug, gnome3.eog, libcryptui, notify-osd, gnome2.gvfs, gnome3.gvfs, mousetweaks, gnome3.totem, sound-juicer, deepin.go-lib, gnome3.mutter, gnome3.vinagre, pulseaudioFull, pulseaudioLight, brasero-original, gnome3.evolution, gnome3.mutter328, ibus-with-plugins, gnome3.gnome-shell, gnome3.libgnomekbd, gnome3.gnome-keyring, and 10 more
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<infinisil>
bqv: Huh where?
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<bqv>
Can't see why LevelChart8's thing is wrong, follows your readme
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<infinisil>
LevelChart8: Nobody can help if you don't mention what the problem is
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<LevelChart8>
"
<LevelChart8>
"error: syntax error, unexpected LET, at /etc/nixos/configuration.nix:57:3
<energizer>
LevelChart8: did you post the whole file?
<LevelChart8>
Only the part around systemPackages that I edited.
<bqv>
:/
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<migy__>
hi, I want to configure my brother scanner with nixos. Until now I couldn't manage to get it working, but I found out the issue. It looks like something depends on LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which should point to the driver libraries of the scanner. this is not the case. scanimage -L lists my scanner if I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/nix/store/...-sane-config/lib/sane. without setting this, it doesn't. so i managed
<migy__>
to get it working from a terminal with setting the env variable, but I can't manage to get it working from my gnome session (simple-scan and skanlite don't list my scanner).
<energizer>
LevelChart8: i believe the problem is related to how you've placed that stuff in a context
<energizer>
LevelChart8: if you show the whole file it will be helpful
<migy__>
so, has anyone an idea how I can add this environment variable to my gnome session?
<clever>
LevelChart8: the { in my example, is the { you already have on line 3
<clever>
LevelChart8: by adding another { on 34, you broke things
<clever>
LevelChart8: the `let ... in;` goes before the { on 3
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<energizer>
migy__: maybe you want to wrap the scanimage executable with an environment variable
<LevelChart8>
clever: that worked. I am now getting the following error, but that is unrelated: error: attribute 'ghc863' missing, at /etc/nixos/configuration.nix:101:42
<LevelChart8>
I will google it.
<clever>
LevelChart8: ghc863 may not be in your version of nixpkgs, just remove it from the config
<bqv>
In fairness, I tried to do .overrideAttrs // { ... } this morning
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<LevelChart8>
It built, but when I started VSCode, I was informed that "The Haskell HIE server crashed 5 times in 3 minutes. The server will not be restarted."
<immae>
Hello there, I’m playing with ZFS and https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS says that I should mount zfs filesystems as "legacy". How should I decide what to mount as legacy? It seems like it’s important for /tmp and /boot, but for instance it (seems to) works fine if /nix and /var are not mounted as legacy. What can be the consequences of this kind of choice?
<clever>
immae: anything that is in the fileSystems attrset should use mountpoint=legacy
<clever>
immae: and anything involved in / and /nix/store has to be like that
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<immae>
Ah ok
<clever>
immae: once systemd is kicking into gear, your mountpoint=/anything stuff should take effect, and fill in the holes nixos isnt aware of
<immae>
Noted. Any explanation for that? (I’m still new to ZFS, I’m only playing with it in a VM for now)
<immae>
ok
<immae>
I think I see, thanks clever++
<{^_^}>
clever's karma got increased to 454
<migy__>
energizer: hm, ya sounds ok for me, but I think there should be a better solution for upstream
<clever>
immae: the initrd scripts arent fully zfs aware, and just blindly use `mount -t fs ${dev} ${mountpoint}` to mount things
<clever>
immae: which requires using legacy
<bqv>
LevelChart8: can you start it manually? See what it wants?
<bqv>
(not even sure what it is, fwiw)
<LevelChart8>
In the command line, you mean?
<bqv>
Yes
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<immae>
so in summary "zfs mounting" can happen very (too) late in the start process, is that it clever ?
<ldlework>
If I have implemented basically the entirety of my NixOS config via my own custom NixOS modules, is it possible to somehow generate documentation for my system?
<ldlework>
that would be pretty nifty
<adisbladis>
ldlework: Sure it is :)
<ldlework>
adisbladis: neat
<ldlework>
is there some magic tool, or will i have to build it
<adisbladis>
lopsided98: I guess ldlework is talking about not-nixos but using the module system
<ldlework>
yeah but still nice to see in action
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<hyperfekt>
Can someone help me understand where the libraries used to build a Haskell package come from? I'm having trouble finding out how to access haskell libraries before they're added to the libdir of a compiler.
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<ldlework>
I have two modules. One allows the user to define variants of katago Go engine via it's options declarations. The other is Sabaki, which is a Go playing interface app. The output of the KataGo module is a number of derivations, all the wrapper packages. How can I communicate those package paths to another module?
<ldlework>
Do I declare additional options in the KataGo module like "variantPackages" which is a listOf paths, and just have the "config" logic of the KataGo module fill that option so that the Sabaki module can find them in it's config.........?
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<ldlework>
Or wait, the katago module is able to define arbitrary stuff in the config attrset
<ldlework>
as long as no other module also defines that area of the config attrset right?
<ldlework>
even if there are not corresponding options...?
<ldlework>
or does there have to be corresponding option declarations
<ldlework>
holy shit i'm confused lol
<energizer>
ldlework: usually *modules* are for things like systemd services and system configuration, while *packages* are for applications and libraries. which do you have here?
<ldlework>
energizer: the modules are so the user can denote the variants and the options that go into those variants
<ldlework>
the config for say katago, adds all of them to home.packages
<ldlework>
that's not the problem
<ldlework>
the problem is how to let the Sabaki package know about what variants are available
<ldlework>
so I can generate a Sabaki config with all those AI engine variants preconfigured
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<ldlework>
Anyone got an idea?
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<ldlework>
OHHH
<ldlework>
I add an option in Sabaki
<ldlework>
and then the KataGo module adds it's information to Sabaki
<{^_^}>
[mobile-nixos] @samueldr opened pull request #158 → Add firmware support to stage-1 → https://git.io/Jfi47
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<LevelChart8>
How would I check if my HIE installation has been successful? My configuration.nix file rebuilt, but the Haskell HIE server crashes when I launch VSCode.
<gchristensen>
hazel: hmm a bit tricky. edit your nixos configuration to mount rpool/root/nix to /nix. then `nixos-rebuild boot` note: NOT switch, just `boot`. (don't use Nix again until after you reboot.) then create a new dataset, rpool/root/nix for the `/nix` directory and mount it to /nix2 and cp -r /nix/* /nix2/ and then reboot. hopefully, you've mounted rpool/root/nix to /nix and you'r emoved over
<hazel>
wouldn't cp -r mess with perms
<hazel>
rsync might be better
<gchristensen>
well, apply unix smarts as needed until it works
<hazel>
is it safe to do this on a running system that I am typing this message from
<hazel>
well
<hazel>
worst case scenario I bust out a live USB
<gchristensen>
maybe `systemctl stop nix-daemon` after your `nixos-rebuild boot`. should be fine
<hazel>
gulp.
<hazel>
alright
<gchristensen>
you're not touching anything in /nix, so, it is really fine
<gchristensen>
if it doesn't work yo ucan roll back
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<hazel>
would I edit hardware-configuration.nix to mount rpool/root/nix
<gchristensen>
yea
<hazel>
then disable auto-snapshots on rpool/root/nix but turn them on for everything else I guess
<hazel>
this distro has improved so much since I last used it
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<hazel>
like I got roped into trying it again with new and improved FP knowledge
<hazel>
since Haskell knowledge very much helped me understand Nix (the lang) easier
<gchristensen>
cool :) learning Nix helped me understand FP -- i went the other way
<hazel>
the first time I regretted it immensely because I `nix-env -iA`ed everything and did very little "the Nix way", which resulted in not only an irreproducible configuration, but one that broke often
<hazel>
this time I'm going dead opposite and doing everything through home-manager
<hazel>
also nix-store --verify didn't break anything so whee
<hazel>
think the last NixOS I tried was 16.09 or 17.03, and I didn't know about home-manager
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<hazel>
anyway I deleted nix on the previous volume and I'm still talking so that's a good sign. nix-store --verify --check-contents still succeeds too, so it is mounting to the right place.
<energizer>
there was no home-manager in 16
<hazel>
nice.
<hazel>
well that explains why I didn't know about it
<energizer>
:)
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<hazel>
anyway hopefully maybe final question of the day -- my RAM usage is much higher with encrypted ZFS than it was with XFS+LVM+LUKS (which is super understandable, since it's ZFS). should I be concerned about high RAM usage? will ZFS limit itself if I'm getting close to OOM?
<hazel>
if not, what's a recommended cache size for a machine with 15GB of RAM? (1GB is allocated to the iGPU)
<hazel>
so it's 16 but effectively 15
<gchristensen>
you could tune the arc's max usage, but generally imo unused ram is wasted ram -- and almost always the arc will give up memory before you need it -- unless you do one huge allocation and it can't do it fast enough
<hazel>
yeah it's just weird seeing like 10GB of RAM usage where I would previously be pushing 5
<hazel>
on my last machine, which ran Void
<hazel>
under the same workload
<gchristensen>
aye
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<hazel>
big number scary
<gchristensen>
I don't know, I don't really pay attention to it and the only time I needed to tune anything was on my 4g rpi