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<bkv> > pkgs.nixFlakes
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/amadznp0c6j8ipxs2zvyk9wv1cnsd1r5-nix-2.4pre20200521_00b562c.drv>"
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/f7036e2cfc8 (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<bkv> It will be in 6 or so days
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<maralorn> bkv: Oh, okay. Nice.^^
<bkv> Pending …politics
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<maralorn> bkv: Will there be (large) changes to nixpkgs in the future because of flakes?
<bkv> Maybe
<bkv> Pending …politics
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/f7036e2cfc8 (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JfXUb
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @samueldr opened pull request #438 → homepage: Fix horizontal scroll on narrower widths → https://git.io/JfXT0
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<fragamus_> Is there a more idiomatic way to refer to this package in my nix expressions?
<fragamus_> this package: /nix/store/4mcf60nirzxgcfy0k1fzq1qz1nk9dnqz-stack-2.3.1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn opened pull request #89450 → [haskell-updates] ghc.withPackages: Add wrapper for ghcide → https://git.io/JfXTF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tviti opened pull request #89451 → owslib: add pyyaml as a runtime dep → https://git.io/JfXTb
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<jgerhardt> ,channels
<{^_^}> Largest Nix channels: #nixos, #nixos-dev, #nixos-chat, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-security, #nixcon, #nixos-officehours, #nixops, #haskell.nix, #nix-darwin, #nixos-de, #nixos-emacs, #nixos-on-your-router, #nixos-nur, #nix-lang, #nixos-fr, #nixos-systemd, #nixos-borg, #nixos-wiki
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<jgerhardt> I'm having a bit of a dependency issue and was wondering if anyone had advice on how best to solve it. To get bluetooth working with wireshark libpcap must be compiled with bluez headers. However, this introduces a dependency cycle. The main bluez package depends on dbus, dbus on systemd, systemd on iptables and iptables on libpcap. As far as I can
<jgerhardt> tell I only need the headers and bluez puts them in a seperate output. I can't imagine the headers themselves depend on dbus but inputs are undifferentiated.
<infinisil> jgerhardt: You could define a separate attribute for the libpcap with the bluez headers
<infinisil> libcpac_bluez or so
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<jgerhardt> I see, I though that it was importing bluez that triggered the cycle, it seems it can be imported just not used a buildInput. Would it best to create a new package for libpcap_bluez or just a attribute?
<clever> jgerhardt: id do it as an attribute, libpcap_bluez = libpcap.override { withBluez = true; };
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<jgerhardt> I'll try that, Thanks infinisil and clever
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #87954 → postgresql: 9.5.21 -> 9.5.22, 9.6.17 -> 9.6.18, 10.12 -> 10.13, 11.7 -> 11.8, 12.2 -> 12.3 → https://git.io/Jf0Wl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 6 commits to staging: https://git.io/JfXkF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #89429 → grafana: 7.0.2 -> 7.0.3 → https://git.io/JfPN5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXkj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tviti closed pull request #89451 → owslib: add pyyaml as a runtime dep → https://git.io/JfXTb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #89319 → sane-airscan: 0.99.0 -> 0.99.3 → https://git.io/JfiYo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXIk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tviti reopened pull request #89451 → owslib: add pyyaml as a runtime dep → https://git.io/JfXTb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89437 → wasabiwallet: 1.1.9.2 -> 1.1.11.1 → https://git.io/JfPxm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXLl
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<LevelChart8> Sorry. I lost my connection.
<LevelChart8> Hopefully, I did not miss a response.
<qyliss> LevelChart8: you can check the channel logs at the link in the topic
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89306 → coz: fix python shebang → https://git.io/JfiUS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXLw
<LevelChart8> It appears that I did not
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89340 → python3Packages.cookiecutter: add missing slugify dependency → https://git.io/Jfigw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXL6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89291 → skaffold: 1.9.1 -> 1.10.1 → https://git.io/Jf6xF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXLP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple closed pull request #89004 → python27Packages.thinc: 7.4.0 -> 7.4.1 → https://git.io/JfrIP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89345 → olive-editor: use wrapQtAppsHook → https://git.io/JfiwN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXLF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @imalsogreg opened pull request #89452 → cassowary: 0.7.0 -> 0.10.0 → https://git.io/JfXLx
<dkjii> let's say you have a libc update, will nix rebuild the packages that link against it?
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<luna> Just out of my own curiousity: Libreoffice had to be compiled the last time I updated (this morning). Has it always been this way?
<jasom> dkjii: that depends; if the packages were linked against a specific version, then they won't be rebuilt. If they were just linked against 'nixpkgs.glibc' (probably not the real name, but you get the idea) then they will be rebuilt.
<dkjii> jasom: makes sense, thx, so will doing nix-env -u firefox update both glibc and rebuild firefox if a new glibc version is out?
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<jasom> dkjii: roughly yes. Usually nothing builds since there is a binary cache
<jasom> dkjii: when you realize a derivation, it will rebuild IFF any inputs are different
<clever> dkjii: but only firefox will use the new glibc
<clever> dkjii: anything you dont update, keeps using the old glibc, that it was last built against
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<dkjii> aight, I'm starting to get it thanks guys
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c00w opened pull request #89453 → Vend → https://git.io/JfXtz
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<Ashy> has anyone here attempted to get the python module pyvista working on nixos?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #89447 → [haskell-updates] haskellPackages.ghcide: 0.1.0 -> 0.2.0 (fix build) → https://git.io/JfXvC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JfXti
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/4f9053c6050 (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
<jgerhardt> When adding an attribute to a package which in it's default setting has no effect is there anyway to avoid a mass rebuild of everything using it?
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<qyliss> jgerhardt: attr = if condition then value else null; ?
<qyliss> Setting an attribute to null doesn't cause a rebuild
<jgerhardt> I just noticed I made an unrelated changed that would force a rebuild
<clever> alternate solution: stdenv.mkDerivation ({ most options; } // lib.optionalAttrs bool { conditional; })
<jgerhardt> Thanks for the tips
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<dkjii> I get "configure.ac:118: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR" when executing ./bootstrap.sh when building from source
<dkjii> anyone knows why?
<clever> dkjii: add autoreconfHook to nativeBuildInputs and it will do that step for you
<dkjii> clever: where? I am install from the tarball
<clever> dkjii: nix-shell -p autoreconfHook
<clever> dkjii: and then run autoreconfPhase i think it was
<dkjii> I dont have nix, I am trying to install it from the source
<clever> dkjii: ah, why are you trying to build nix from source?
<qyliss> dkjii: do you have autoconf installed?
<dkjii> I'm installing from a gentoo box, but the ebuild doesn't work either (same error), yes here's my config: http://dpaste.com/12W6JP7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #87950 → openorienteering-mapper: 0.9.2 -> 0.9.3 → https://git.io/Jf0Cs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXqu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89168 → rubberband: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.2 → https://git.io/JfKLK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXqh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #89454 → buildGoModule: require vendorSha256 to be set in packages → https://git.io/JfXmf
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<hyper_ch> hmmm, I'm pondering... should I remap in tmux ctrl-a & (kill window) to ctrl-a k ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danderson opened pull request #89455 → tailscale: 0.97-219 -> 0.99.1-0 → https://git.io/JfXmR
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<quinn> hyper_ch: that's my mapping (different prefix)
<hyper_ch> quinn: just trying to find out if (k) has a different function
<hyper_ch> because for & I need to press shift-6
<quinn> i think i unmap all at the beginning of my rc so i can't help ya
<hyper_ch> hehehehe
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<energizer> i'm trying to nixos-install my current system onto another disk, while my system is running. is there any reason i shouldn't be able to do that?
<energizer> nixos-install says - error: while setting up the build environment: unable to bind mount '/mnt/dev/fsroot/nix/store/gispa2laayl2bh2v5dsk3pmcsp943mgc-NetworkManager.conf.drv.chroot': Permission denied
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<quinn> energizer: you want NIXOS_LUSTRATE in the manual if you haven't checked manual yet
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<energizer> that says "Install NixOS on the same partition (in place!), from your existing non-NixOS Linux distribution using NIXOS_LUSTRATE."
<energizer> but my distribution is already nixos
<energizer> i just want to move it onto another disk
<quinn> oh and it's a different install, i don't know then. IMO just follow the procedures for a fresh install and then copy configuration.nix over, i don't see why networkmanager.drv is complaining
<clever> energizer: was nixos-install ran as root?
<energizer> yes
<clever> energizer: can you pastebin the entire output, including the cmd you ran?
<energizer> clever: https://bpa.st/CSRA
<clever> energizer: thats weird
<clever> energizer: to work around it, first try doing `nix build -f '<nixpkgs/nixos>' system --arg configuration /mnt/dev/fsroot/etc/nixos/configuration.nix`
<clever> energizer: that should build the target, in the host /nix/store
<clever> energizer: then when its done, `nix copy --to local?root=/mnt/dev/fsroot/ /nix/store/product` to copy it to the new hdd
<clever> and once thats done, try the nixos-install again
<clever> it shouldnt have to build anything, and complete much more quickly
<energizer> before proceeding i have a question
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #89451 → owslib: add pyyaml as a runtime dep → https://git.io/JfXTb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXm5
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<energizer> i have a btrfs device that's got /nix /home /persist /boot /fsroot subvolumes. can i keep the /fsroot adjacent like that, and just `mv fsroot/boot boot && mv fsroot/nix nix` after installing?
<clever> energizer: maybe, it also depends on if the values for things like fileSystems."/".device are going to still be correct after you do that
<clever> the initrd may have trouble finding things
<clever> you would have to build with the new names it will have, when you plan for it to boot
<energizer> i have set fileSystems."/" to point to the fsroot subvolume, and /boot to boot etc
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<energizer> that's what you're saying, right?
<clever> yeah
<energizer> ok
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/1ae28ebfdb7 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<energizer> clever: what is that `?` ?
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<clever> ?
<energizer> nm
<energizer> i mean the local?root but i found it in the --help
<energizer> meant*
<clever> ah
<clever> local?root= basically makes nix chroot
<energizer> what's nix/store/product?
<clever> energizer: the product that `nix build` created
<energizer> is that a special notation? i dont see anything called product
<clever> its just the output path from building the derivation
<energizer> but inside a chroot, not in my actual store
<clever> the `nix build` builds it on the host store
<clever> and `nix copy` will copy from host to chroot
<energizer> error: while setting up the build environment: unable to bind mount '/mnt/dev/fsroot/nix/store/gispa2laayl2bh2v5dsk3pmcsp943mgc-NetworkManager.conf.drv.chroot': Permission denied
<clever> what cmd gave that error?
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<energizer> # nixos-install --root /mnt/dev/fsroot
<clever> and did `nix copy` get ran first?
<energizer> yes
<clever> not sure what else to do then
<energizer> ok maybe i reformat and try again
<energizer> can't unmount..
<clever> check lsof
<energizer> empty
* energizer reboots
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<energizer> clever: reformatted, same thing happened
<energizer> error: while setting up the build environment: unable to bind mount '/mnt/dev/fsroot/nix/store/gispa2laayl2bh2v5dsk3pmcsp943mgc-NetworkManager.conf.drv.chroot': Permission denied
<clever> i wouldnt expect formatting to fix it
<energizer> ok what do i do now?
<clever> wait for somebody else to know more
<clever> or try the install ISO, or kexec
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 396 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JfXYy
<{^_^}> #67465 (by matthewbauer, 40 weeks ago, open): Unable to bind mount on certain hard drives
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JfXYS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti opened pull request #89456 → Update Haskell package set to LTS 15.15 (plus other fixes) → https://git.io/JfXY7
<energizer> so...buy a new hard drive?
<clever> energizer: i think its filesystem related, not physical
<clever> energizer: try ext4?
<energizer> clever: i have btrfs on luks on another computer. my goal is to apply that here too
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #89457 → nixos/pam: mount encrypted home earlier → https://git.io/JfXYb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed to f/pam_ordering « nixos/pam: mount encrypted home earlier »: https://git.io/JfXYN
<clever> energizer: try ext4 just to see if it behaves any different
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<energizer> clever: ext4 over luks
<energizer> error: while setting up the build environment: unable to bind mount '/mnt/dev/nix/store/gispa2laayl2bh2v5dsk3pmcsp943mgc-NetworkManager.conf.drv.chroot': Permission denied
<clever> energizer: i'm out of ideas then
<energizer> clever: thanks anyway
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<energizer> clever: https://stackoverflow.com/a/36554252/12055383 does this look relevant?
<clever> energizer: only if your running nixos-install inside docker or another namespace
<energizer> clever: i'm not
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kayhide closed pull request #66508 → zplug: init at 2.4.2. → https://git.io/fj5Jl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #89458 → kdeFrameworks.qqc2-desktop-style: init at 5.68 (backport to stable) → https://git.io/JfXOE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #89459 → Mailman updates → https://git.io/JfXOi
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<hsngrmpf[m]> I'm trying to get cuda running inside a docker container. Problem: `cudaGetDeviceCount()` returns 0 despite nvidia-smi listing my device. An ideas?
<hsngrmpf[m]> * I'm trying to get cuda running inside a docker container. Problem: `cudaGetDeviceCount()` returns 0 despite nvidia-smi listing my device. Any ideas?
<lovesegfault> did you enable `virtualisation.docker.enableNvidia`?
<lovesegfault> (meant to pinkieval hsngrmpf[m] )
<lovesegfault> *ping
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<hsngrmpf[m]> Yes, i did. nvidia-smi inside the container shows my device
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #87914 → jamulus: init at 3.5.3 → https://git.io/JfRd4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXOQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #89101 → bitwig-studio3: 3.1.2 -> 3.1.3 → https://git.io/JfoG3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88989 → idris2: 0.2.0-840e020 -> 0.2.0 → https://git.io/JfwxG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @justin-gerhardt opened pull request #89461 → wireshark: Add Bluetooth → https://git.io/JfXGC
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<{^_^}> [nix] @trofi opened pull request #3659 → bootstrap.sh: always copy external .m4 files in → https://git.io/JfXGX
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.03 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/05a32d8e771 (from 15 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.03)
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<kenji> Hello! Does anyone know how I can get texdoc to work with texlive? I am using this package texlive.combined.scheme-full.
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<ph88> manveru, what about hercules-ci ? do you have good experiences with it ?
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JfXnt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #89462 → ocaml-ng.ocamlPackages_4_11.ocaml: 4.11.0+α1 → 4.11.0+α2 → https://git.io/JfXnZ
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<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti merged pull request #458 → Add tdlib to libNixName → https://git.io/Jfiyu
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXnK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #87711 → ocamlPackages.elpi: 1.10.2 -> 1.11.0 → https://git.io/Jf8AA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @CohenCyril to master « ocamlPackages.elpi: 1.10.2 -> 1.11.0 »: https://git.io/JfXn9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #89357 → bazel-buildtools: 2.2.1 -> 3.2.0 → https://git.io/JfiQQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXnd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #89441 → systemd: systemd.pc: fix systemdsystemunitpath and systemduserunitpath → https://git.io/JfPpV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JfXnF
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti merged pull request #449 → Added mappings for SoapySDR and liquid-dsp → https://git.io/JvbHb
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXnN
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti merged pull request #444 → secp256k1-haskell: fix pkgconfig-depends → https://git.io/JviBj
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXnA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #89463 → watchexec: 1.12.0 -> 1.13.0 → https://git.io/JfXcU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #89464 → slirp4netns: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/JfXcI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #89465 → syncthing: 1.5.0 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/JfXco
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<davidtwco> hey - experimenting with using flakes in my system configuration based on some examples I found online, getting `The option `nixpkgs.AAAAAASomeThingsFailToEvaluate' defined in `<unknown-file>' does not exist.` - any idea why that might happen?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88889 → displaycal: 3.5 -> 3.8.9.3 → https://git.io/JfV7a
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXcj
<manveru> davidtwco: that usually happens when you try to nix-build all of nixpkgs
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<manveru> that attribute is a safe-guard so you don't accidentally do that :)
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<davidtwco> manveru: hmm, I don't know where I'm accidentally doing that
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXCo
<davidtwco> ah, figured it out, pebkac
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @priegger opened pull request #89467 → factorio{,-headless}-experimental: 0.18.29 -> 0.18.30 → https://git.io/JfXCP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #89464 → slirp4netns: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/JfXcI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sikmir opened pull request #89468 → goldendict: 2020-01-09 -> 2020-05-27 → https://git.io/JfXC5
<bkv> Fwoof, I have 13 gigs of stuff to fetch from cache
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #89465 → syncthing: 1.5.0 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/JfXco
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #89469 → Electron update → https://git.io/JfXW1
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<__monty__> Is there a way to view the cabal file produced with `haskell.lib.doJailbreak`? I searched the store but either it's not reified or the name's mangled.
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<MarcWeber> wanted: sha256-xfj8CPysMprRRRkjD3y5aTEaTrkFn0gfwO7KkobfUrQ=
<MarcWeber> How to transate that hash in build log into what to paste into source file ?
<__monty__> You can paste that exact string.
<__monty__> Nix is switching to SRI hashes.
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<ma27[m]> __monty__: that's wrong if the hash should land somehow in nixpkgs since we still have Nix 2.0 as minimum version which doesn't support SRI. See also https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/89275
<{^_^}> #89275 (by abathur, 3 days ago, open): nixpkgs has (SRI?) hashes that the Nix version in use on travis-ci (2.0.4) can't handle
<ma27[m]> MarcWeber: `nix to-base32` should do the job
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #89468 → goldendict: 2020-01-09 -> 2020-05-27 → https://git.io/JfXC5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfX8t
<__monty__> Incomplete maybe but not wrong. Thanks for the clarification though.
<ma27[m]> you're right, sorry %)
<LnL> FYI planning to handle this in the evaluation checks once I'm finished converting 20.03
<ma27[m]> nice, LnL++
<{^_^}> LnL's karma got increased to 68
<LnL> unless the consensus changes changes and we bump the version requirement
<LnL> my conversion thing is pretty inefficient tho, hopefully it finishes today
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<{^_^}> [hydra] @knl opened pull request #775 → Make PathInput plugin cache validity configurable → https://git.io/JfX8g
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #89470 → brotab: 1.2.2 -> 1.3.0 → https://git.io/JfX8X
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wfranzini opened pull request #89471 → WIP: Cross compilation to musl32 support → https://git.io/JfX8S
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wfranzini closed pull request #62817 → WIP: improve support for crosscompiling to musl32 → https://git.io/fjzWb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @asymmetric opened pull request #89472 → rl-2003: mention grub 2.04 update → https://git.io/JfX4T
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88466 → gazebo: remove → https://git.io/Jfgls
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/JfX4m
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @taku0 opened pull request #89474 → thunderbird, thunderbird-bin: 68.8.1 -> 68.9.0 [High security fixes] → https://git.io/JfX4n
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #87952 → fdkaac: init at 1.0.0 → https://git.io/Jf0CF
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<jakobrs> How does the services.libinput.* options interact with the values set in System Settings (on Plasma)?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88444 → freerdp: 2.1.0 -> 2.1.1 → https://git.io/JfgqI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @moritzschaefer opened pull request #89475 → Revert "python3Packages.shellingham: 1.3.1 -> 1.3.2" → https://git.io/JfX4x
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 3 commits to flakes: https://git.io/JfXBf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88231 → wownero: 0.7.0 -> 0.8.0.0 → https://git.io/JfzEc
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<{^_^}> [nix] @Kloenk opened pull request #3660 → add support for selfhosted gitlab/github → https://git.io/JfXRm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra opened pull request #89476 → Bump minver.nix to 2.2 → https://git.io/JfXRO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #88129 → easyrpg-player: 0.6.1 -> 0.6.2 → https://git.io/JfuE1
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<{^_^}> [patchelf] @priegger opened pull request #206 → allow overriding systems → https://git.io/JfXR6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @davidtwco opened pull request #89477 → tmuxPlugins.better-mouse-mode: init at unstable-2017-10-16 → https://git.io/JfXRD
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<bkv> Package duplicates found in closure, see above. Usually this happens if two packages depend on different version of the same dependency.
<bkv> Python why
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to flakes « Fix completion script install name »: https://git.io/JfX0O
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra opened pull request #89479 → Don't enable nix-bash-completions when using Nix 2.4 → https://git.io/JfX0E
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @talyz opened pull request #89480 → gitlab: 12.10.8 -> 13.0.4 → https://git.io/JfX0p
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<thongpv87> I have problem with nix docker container. It seem like I can not set system timezone by `setenv` and `tzset` in the docker container created by nix, but it work normally in ubuntu. Here is example: https://github.com/thongpv87/nix-test
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<LnL> builds can't read system stuff like that
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<thongpv87> The result is when running outside and inside docker container is look like this: https://imgur.com/a/1JzZAM0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lheckemann merged pull request #89324 → libgme: Don't reference gcc-unwrapped → https://git.io/JfiZf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli closed pull request #89239 → gitlab: 12.10.8 -> 13.0.3 → https://git.io/Jf634
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<Guest84> Reposting from discord- anybody knows how can I speak to peterhoeg from github? I'd like to quickly discuss a few things synchronously rather than going back and forth on github.
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<manveru> Guest84: he's only on github afaik
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<Guest84> Hmm ...
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @davidak merged pull request #433 → commercial-support: add five binaries → https://git.io/JfPt5
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<manveru> FRidh: did you find a solution for the ruby issue?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 486 commits to staging: https://git.io/JfXgG
<dminuoso> manveru: If you log into github, you can see his email address.
<manveru> dminuoso: that's not synchronous :)
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<teto> anyone up for a review https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/75164 ?
<{^_^}> #75164 (by teto, 25 weeks ago, open): [RDY] neovim-unwrapped: ease hacking/development
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging « Revert "Revert "Merge pull request #78910 from serokell/libarchive-zstd"" »: https://git.io/JfXg4
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<o1lo01ol1o> I've got a binary that seems to choke on symlinks, what's the best way to build a derivation from another that contains only concrete files and directories (and preserves the naming conventions of the original derivation)?
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @davidak pushed to davidak-patch-1 « Create redirect for /nix »: https://git.io/JfX2k
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @davidak opened pull request #440 → Create redirect for /nix → https://git.io/JfX2t
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<manveru> hm, for some reason pcmanfm doesn't have an Applications list anymore... are there any other apps that can list how the stuff in /share/applications will look like?
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas merged pull request #440 → Create redirect for /nix → https://git.io/JfX2t
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<nixbitcoin> How can I add a whole section of unrelated options into a module's config, conditional upon another module being enabled?
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed 0 commits to davidak-patch-1: https://git.io/JfX2c
<{^_^}> [nix] @Ma27 opened pull request #3661 → Fix log-prefix of `nix build -L` → https://git.io/JfX2B
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas closed pull request #438 → homepage: Fix horizontal scroll on narrower widths → https://git.io/JfXT0
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed 2 commits to fix/index-horizontal-scroll: https://git.io/JfX2g
<exarkun> is it possible to use an alternate version of setuptools when building a python package with buildPythonPackage?
<exarkun> if I pass a custom setuptools package to buildInputs I'm pretty sure it's ignored
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas opened pull request #441 → homepage: Fix horizontal scroll on narrower widths → https://git.io/JfX2r
<exarkun> if I make an overlay that defines a new setuptools for pythonPackages then I get infinite recursion error
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #89395 → libreoffice-qt: init at 6.4.3.2 → https://git.io/JfPan
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #89463 → watchexec: 1.12.0 -> 1.13.0 → https://git.io/JfXcU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #88244 → bazel-watcher: 0.13.0 -> 0.13.1 → https://git.io/JfzwP
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<exarkun> eh I got it in somehow. using python-self instead of python-super in the overlay helped in this case, for some reason, I guess.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hrdinka merged pull request #87868 → palemoon: 28.9.1 -> 28.9.3 → https://git.io/JfRqI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @contrun opened pull request #89484 → linuxPackages.rtl8821cu: init at 2020-05-16 → https://git.io/JfXwt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #89252 → python39: fix build on macOS → https://git.io/Jf6E2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @Luflosi to master « python39: fix build on macOS »: https://git.io/JfXw5
<kenran> Can I write higher-order functions with the nix language?
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<kenran> That is, I'm trying to have something like this: let mkMyShell = f: pkgs: doSomething pkgs (f pkgs); here, doSomething is a function that takes two arguments (the packages and another set), but I get "attempt to call something which is not a function but a set" at (f pkgs)
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<alexarice[m]> kenran: That should be possible, the error suggests you have passed in a set for argument `f`
<kenran> alexarice[m]: omg, you're right, I just messed up the order of arguments I pass to it -_- thanks for the quick help!
<emilsp> hrm, it seems like root can't create new cgroups and add new PIDs to said groups, what am I doing wrong? I'm getting a permission's error when attempting to do so.
<tudorr> hello everyone, where can i see the list of basic packages that every nixos system has?
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<simpson> tudorr: /usr/bin/env and /bin/sh along with the Nix utilities.
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<tudorr> what about programs like which, awk, file and others?
<tudorr> that any shell environment expects
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<tudorr> i only use nix in my user profile using home-manager and i need a list of such utilities because i want to erase /usr/bin from my path
<tudorr> so have everything self-contained
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<OmnipotentEntity> Quick dumb question, what's the equivalent to the deb package python-dev in nixos?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #89483 → overmind: 2.0.3 -> 2.1.1 → https://git.io/JfXaJ
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<LnL> just python
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<LnL> in some cases there's a separate dev output but nix expressions will pull in the correct thing automatically
<dredozubov> are there any documentation regarding having a personal/corporate nix cache? I'm getting too many "hash mismatch importing path" errors and some missing things, suspect GC is configured in a totally unreliable way. Are there any best practices?
<OmnipotentEntity> In this case, I need to link against python after the fact from a cargo build, and I'm getting an undefined reference error to what seems to be python function names its expecting to be in the environment, if python is the package I need for this, is there anyway to tell cargo where to look?
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<LnL> are you using nix-shell?
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<LnL> "installing" things with nix intentionally doesn't affect builds
<OmnipotentEntity> yes, via direnv
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<OmnipotentEntity> My, kind of gross, shell.nix is here: https://hastebin.com/buxegeyewe.js
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<LnL> ah I see, thin you'll need to include python3 separately
<LnL> the withPackages wrapper is just the binary
<sherubthakur> Hello there folks, I just recently came across nix and wanted to try it out. I am on a mac. Is this the right channel to for any queries that I might have regarding nix ecosystem or is this restricted to only nixOS?
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<LnL> nix in general, feel free to ask here
<OmnipotentEntity> I've added that to nativeBuildInputs, but the build still fails.
<OmnipotentEntity> sherubthakur, welcome!
<Henson> I've got fingerprint auth enabled in NixOS. When I do so, it causes all PAM modules to add fingerprint authentication. But I want to allow it only for certain PAM modules. Is there a way in the NixOS configuration that I can iterate over all of the attributes in the security.pam.services set without having to specify them individually to turn fingerprint auth off?
<LnL> buildInputs would be the correct place if you want it as a lib, but don't think that matters yet
<sherubthakur> LnL that is great to hear.
<sherubthakur> hello OmnipotentEntity
<OmnipotentEntity> Alright, I gave it a go in buildInputs as well, to no change in behavior
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #89401 → mint-x-icons: init at 1.5.5 → https://git.io/JfPrP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXoV
<LnL> weird
<simpson> tudorr: If you haven't found it yet, the awk you want is probably `gawk`, GNU awk. (`mawk` also available if that's your preference.)
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<tudorr> well i found it but it's a bit counter-intuitive to try and look for all the basic unix utilities
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<tudorr> sourcing stdenv's setup file in bash fails
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 opened pull request #89486 → nixos/dovecot2: turn `mailboxes`-option into an attr-set → https://git.io/JfXoX
<LnL> OmnipotentEntity: nix-shell -p python3 --run 'echo $NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE' includes python3/include
<OmnipotentEntity> would you like that from within my current direnv environment or a clean one?
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<LnL> just the direnv since that includes the shell environment already
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<Henson> I tried doing "security.pam.services = pkgs.lib.mapAttrs (name: value: value.override { fprintAuth = false; }) config.security.pam.services;" but end up with an infinite recursion error, which I kind of expected.
<OmnipotentEntity> That gives a bash error saying that includes is an undefined variable, if I adjust it to where the quoted string is the entire thing it returns -isystem /nix/store/foo-python3-3.7.6./include isystem /nix/store/foo-python-3.7.6/include includes python3/include
<OmnipotentEntity> that's in a clean environment
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<OmnipotentEntity> In the direnv environment it's somewhat more involved, so here's a paste: https://hastebin.com/ozozuzuhod.makefile
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging « meson: fix hash after incorrect merge »: https://git.io/JfXox
<LnL> yeah so python is in there, not sure why cargo wouldn't find it then
<OmnipotentEntity> Here is the actual cargo error: https://hastebin.com/cucipuquje.php
<fresheyeball> for some reason
<fresheyeball> I can't build my haskell project this morning
<fresheyeball> rm -rf .ghc*
<fresheyeball> rm -rf dist*
<fresheyeball> rm -rf ~/.ghc*
<fresheyeball> and still no go with ghcid
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<fresheyeball> <command line>: can't load .so/.DLL for: /nix/store/g0i87xldn1hxm1gnb3cnjrvrfab67q0d-aeson-1.4.4.0/lib/ghc-8.6.4/x86_64-linux-ghc-8.6.4/libHSaeson-1.4.4.0-6fXoZ2qaEUVDCYBpShqWhf-ghc8.6.4.so (/nix/store/g0i87xldn1hxm1gnb3cnjrvrfab67q0d-aeson-1.4.4.0/lib/ghc-8.6.4/x86_64-linux-ghc-8.6.4/libHSaeson-1.4.4.0-6fXoZ2qaEUVDCYBpShqWhf-ghc8.6.4.so: undefined symbol:
<fresheyeball> thzmabstractionzm0zi3zi1zi0zmKacyXGqFl6k8QB9PBisbIF_LanguageziHaskellziTHziDatatype_zdfTypeSubstitutionConstructorInfozuzdcfreeVariables1_info)
<{^_^}> [patchelf] @priegger closed pull request #206 → allow overriding systems → https://git.io/JfXR6
<fresheyeball> what the hell could be going on?
<fresheyeball> nix-shell loads up just fine
<LnL> OmnipotentEntity: oh, it's a link error are you sure what you're building supports python3.7?
<OmnipotentEntity> sorry, I thought I mentioned it was an ld error to begin with, but I guess I wasn't explicit enough lol
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<OmnipotentEntity> let me check if PyO3 supports 3.7
<fresheyeball> nix-build works too
<fresheyeball> what the heck!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh closed pull request #85758 → WIP: python3Packages.bokeh: 1.4.0 -> 2.0.1 → https://git.io/JfkPz
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<OmnipotentEntity> According to the website it supports 3.5 and up
<LnL> yeah, that would do it
<LnL> oh and up
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<jwaksbaum[m]> I'm having an issue with systemd timers, but I'm not sure if it's a sytemd issue or a NixOS issue. I would like to have a command run every day at 6:00 in New York local time. I used the startAt option in the Nix configuration for the service: startAt = "6:00 America/New_York";. Using sytemctl cat, I can see that that's getting to the time file: OnCalendar=6:00 America/New_York. However, when I run systemctl list-timers,
<jwaksbaum[m]> it shows 02:00:00 EDT, ie. 6:00 UTC. If I change 6:00 America/New_York to 6:00 EDT, it works, but I would like it to follow local New York time across daylight savings time.
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<OmnipotentEntity> Just in case you want to reproduce the issue on your end LnL, my rust source is literally just the example source from the PyO3 README under the section "Using Python from Rust"
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<OmnipotentEntity> oh, well then, now it works.
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<LnL> heh, maybe direnv didn't reload?
<OmnipotentEntity> I removed: features = ["extension-module"] from the pyo3 dependencies, (when I was testing with having it as a library instead.)
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<OmnipotentEntity> which honestly, should have been obvious, but it's been several hours since I added it and I had forgotten :X
<OmnipotentEntity> Thanks for your help, glad it was just something really stupid.
<OmnipotentEntity> fresheyeball, sorry for sucking the oxygen from your problem. I have some experience with hacking on Haskell, can you give some detail? Are you using a nix-shell environment?
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<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: yes, this is me trying to use ghcid inside a nix-shell
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfXKa
<fresheyeball> which was working until this morning
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging « python3: now points to python38 »: https://git.io/JfXKw
<OmnipotentEntity> Can you pastebin your nix-shell?
<fresheyeball> ghcid and cabal-install are both pinned by nix and provided by the shell
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<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity:
<OmnipotentEntity> LnL++
<{^_^}> LnL's karma got increased to 69
<fresheyeball> this is my project
<fresheyeball> nix-shell examples
<fresheyeball> followed by
<fresheyeball> ghcid --command "cabal repl examples:counter"
<fresheyeball> should work
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<fresheyeball> I am blocked
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<OmnipotentEntity> while this is running on my end, can you verify your nix-store for me? $ sudo nix-store --verify --check-contents
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #89405 → iproute: 5.6.0 -> 5.7.0 → https://git.io/JfPia
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @primeos to staging « iproute: 5.6.0 -> 5.7.0 »: https://git.io/JfXK1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #89387 → python3Packages.cython: 0.29.14 -> 0.29.19 → https://git.io/JfPBh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @jonringer to staging « python3Packages.cython: 0.29.14 -> 0.29.19 »: https://git.io/JfXKM
<fresheyeball> reading the Nix store...
<fresheyeball> checking path existence...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #89382 → perl: 5.30.2 -> 5.30.3 → https://git.io/JfPC7
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: ^^ that's all it outputed
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @volth to staging « perl: 5.30.2 -> 5.30.3 »: https://git.io/JfXKS
<OmnipotentEntity> fast. I'm still churning through compiles here.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #89326 → libssh2: fix broken patch hash → https://git.io/JfiCL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @bhipple to staging « libssh2: fix broken patch hash »: https://git.io/JfXKH
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: might want to use cachix
<OmnipotentEntity> let's try without first
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #89219 → libgpgerror: 1.36 -> 1.38 → https://git.io/JfKdV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @zowoq to staging « libgpgerror: 1.36 -> 1.38 »: https://git.io/JfXKd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/JfXKb
<OmnipotentEntity> The nix-shell you asked me to run fails to build.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #88877 → gdb: 9.1 -> 9.2 → https://git.io/JfVXJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @lsix to staging « gdb: 9.1 -> 9.2 »: https://git.io/JfXKp
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<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: what command did you run?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #88636 → pcre2: 10.34 -> 10.35 → https://git.io/Jf2hL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to staging « pcre2: 10.34 -> 10.35 »: https://git.io/JfX6e
<OmnipotentEntity> $ nix-shell examples
<fresheyeball> on master?!
<OmnipotentEntity> yes
<fresheyeball> that builds for me just fine!
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<fresheyeball> maybe just try again?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #88646 → linux: CONFIG_MOUSE_ELAN_I2C_SMBUS=y → https://git.io/JfaUE
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<fresheyeball> perhaps that test is brittle
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<OmnipotentEntity> Maybe you have some impure stuff going on?
<fresheyeball> I don't think so
<OmnipotentEntity> alright trying again maybe that test is brittle.
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<fresheyeball> That failure is in a dependency
<OmnipotentEntity> true enough, and it seems to be continuing
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<aleph-> And TIL about the acme service we have.
<aleph-> Nifty
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<OmnipotentEntity> fresheyeball, just checking in since it's been about 30 minutes, it's still compiling (holy crap dude)
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: seriously, cachix
<fresheyeball> it's going to be hours
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @LnL7 opened pull request #89490 → replace SRI hashes (20.03) → https://git.io/JfXi3
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: I just went hard
<fresheyeball> nix-collect-garbage -d
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<OmnipotentEntity> did it work?
<fresheyeball> plus rm -rf on ~/.ghc ~/.cabal ~/.cache
<fresheyeball> same error
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<OmnipotentEntity> shell just finished
<fresheyeball> that was faster than expected to be honest
<OmnipotentEntity> shpadoinkle cowboy -> peanut cowboy
<fresheyeball> cowboy -> potato cowboy
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<OmnipotentEntity> My machine is purpose built for churning very fast through compiles. I'm surprised it took this long. I can compile all of tensorflow in less than an hour.
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: what are your specs?
<OmnipotentEntity> ghci works btw
<OmnipotentEntity> 2x 20 core Xeon
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<fresheyeball> great
<fresheyeball> that is what I expected
<OmnipotentEntity> alright, so how should I attempt to reproduce your issue?
<fresheyeball> no idea
<fresheyeball> just started happening
<OmnipotentEntity> cabal build?
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<fresheyeball> I expect that will work too
<fresheyeball> but sure
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<OmnipotentEntity> package directory "all of them" does not contain any .cabal file.
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: run ./hpackall.sh
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<OmnipotentEntity> backends/static is the only error left after the sh
<OmnipotentEntity> same error though
<fresheyeball> what is the error?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/JfXio
<OmnipotentEntity> The package directory 'backends/static' does not contain any .cabal file.
<fresheyeball> just cd there and run hpack
<fresheyeball> I usually build one package at a time
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<OmnipotentEntity> alright issue is reproduced.
<fresheyeball> wow!
<fresheyeball> nice!
<fresheyeball> what did it?
<OmnipotentEntity> From $ cabal build all
<ohhaimark[m]> How do I decipher this mess:
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<judson> How can I link into /opt from a module?
<OmnipotentEntity> ohhaimark[m], it looks like nix is disagreeing with LVM somehow.
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<ohhaimark[m]> Ah, thanks, if it's that I think I can find out what I did wrong.
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<OmnipotentEntity> that's only a guess because of /dev/dm-0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @davidtwco opened pull request #89491 → vimPlugins: add various plugins → https://git.io/JfXib
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<OmnipotentEntity> fresheyeball, searching around, this guy has a similar error in a gist: https://gist.github.com/pikajude
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<fresheyeball> hmm
<OmnipotentEntity> Does nm work on haskell sos?
<OmnipotentEntity> it should right?
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<fresheyeball> I don't know what nm or haskell sos are
<OmnipotentEntity> nm lists symbols in an object file
<OmnipotentEntity> and I meant ".so"s
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<OmnipotentEntity> ah derp it's been stripped of course.
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<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: this is beyond me
<OmnipotentEntity> essentially, the symbol that the linker is looking for and not finding in the .so file exists in the .so file.
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<OmnipotentEntity> Which is baffling.
<delroth> I have an ssh in an initrd on a machine, what's the easiest way to use that to install nixos on that machine? don't really have any good alternate way
<delroth> I was planning to build nix statically and try to use that to basically redo manually whatever nixos-install does
<delroth> (I already have a built system in the /nix/store of one of my other machines, I just lack a good way to transfer it and get the root fs in the right shape)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @asbachb opened pull request #89492 → Update netbeans → https://git.io/JfXPW
<{^_^}> [nix] @Kloenk opened pull request #3662 → rename the url attribute to instance → https://git.io/JfXP8
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<OmnipotentEntity> well @fresheyeball I'm out of ideas personally, but there might be someone a little wiser here later. Thank you for introducing me to Shpadoinkle Day
<OmnipotentEntity> sorry I couldn't be of much help
<OmnipotentEntity> oh duh duh duh
<OmnipotentEntity> @fresheyeball, the symbol is "U" it's undefined, it's been stripped out probably
<fresheyeball> hu
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<judson> I've got an application that expects to be able to call a script at an absolute path, so linking into the /nix store from that path is kind of unavoidable
<evanjs> lassulus: so I guess ESXi needs some weird stuff to get workable OVA appliances... I've seen roughly the same procedure in a few places http://www.baconapplications.com/export-a-virtualbox-machine-to-vmware/ - my comment yesterday can be boiled down to -- we really should have more options for OVA images, but I guess that might be better suited to nixpkgs?
<evanjs> rather than stuffing it into nixos-generators, which is basically wrappers
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<lassulus> having stuff upstream would be better for other users also, so yes
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<evanjs> https://gist.github.com/evanjs/1fa1e1d3379750143347762164ed18e4 - yeah tbh I think this more illustrates the need for better OVA support, rather than any form of solution
<evanjs> Outside of our immediate need to generate ESXi-friendly images -- VMWare VMDKs aren't exactly a 1:1, either :/
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<evanjs> that, and the fact that we can't specify which ovf version to use, the default is 1.0, and 2.0 is an option :D
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<evanjs> lassulus: the one more pressing thing I encountered was needing to pass arguments to virtualbox-image, but I'm not sure what the roadmap for passing arguments/parameters through nixos-generators looks like right now
<evanjs> in this case, virtualbox.params
<evanjs> using this in the vbox format expression seemed to work -- `imports = [ "${toString modulesPath}/virtualisation/virtualbox-image.nix" { virtualbox.params = { audio = "none"; }; } ];`
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<lassulus> uhm, would be passing --argstr to the underlying nix-build enough?
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<clever> evanjs: and thats the same as just `imports = [ path ]; virtualbox.params = value; }`
<ohhaimark[m]> Can any one tell me why my nixos-rebuild isn't allowing unfree despite me setting it in configuration.nix:
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<clever> ohhaimark[m]: which package is causing the error?
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: can you post a rollup of what you did?
<ohhaimark[m]> dropbox
<ohhaimark[m]> How I do that?
<OmnipotentEntity> I haven't figured it out yet, it's just not mysterious to me why it's not working
<OmnipotentEntity> I'm investigating what is removing that symbol currently
<clever> ohhaimark[m]: and in which file did you install dropbox?
<fresheyeball> oh awesome
<OmnipotentEntity> Because there's a lot of stuff about intentionally NOT stripping in the GHC .nix files.
<ohhaimark[m]> clever: In home-manager using the nixos module.
<clever> ohhaimark[m]: i believe home-manager's pkgs tree is isolated, and respects the nixpkgs.config.allowUnfree in the home-manager modules
<ohhaimark[m]> Ah. Thanks
<OmnipotentEntity> But that's the current ones, and you're pinned to a sha, unfortunately, I cannot find that sha in the nixpkgs repository, which probably means that I don't fully understand what the sha represents, and I'm looking into that right now.
<ohhaimark[m]> * clever: Ah. Thanks
<clever> ohhaimark[m]: and you already have one commented out on 75
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<OmnipotentEntity> oh, it's just the sha of the commit, and I can't find the commit. boo.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @silviogutierrez opened pull request #89493 → Add wait-for-it package → https://git.io/JfXX9
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: what do you mean?
<fresheyeball> e1843646b04fb564abf6330a9432a76df3269d2f
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: that is the git hash of nixpkgs I am currently using
<OmnipotentEntity> the commit e1843646b04fb564abf6330a9432a76df3269d2f does not seem to exist in my local copy of the nixpkgs repo. But I worked around it by just downloading the tarball.
<OmnipotentEntity> always something.
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: your moniker may be justified after all
<OmnipotentEntity> doubtful lol
<evanjs> lassulus: clever: hrm well I'm going to assume I'm passing things in wrongly, but e.g. `--argstr virtualbox.params.audio "none"` doesn't seem to work
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<clever> evanjs: --argstr cant set nixos options
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<clever> one sec
<clever> evanjs: that is basically the only thing --arg/--argstr can do
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<evanjs> yeah I figured as much
<clever> evanjs: what you can do with --arg, depends on what the default.nix can accept, so i would have to see that file first
<evanjs> though I'm wondering if I should just copy https://github.com/nix-community/nixos-generators/blob/master/nixos-generate.nix or similar
<jluttine[m]> Anyone using weechat with weechat-matrix python script? I'm just getting `python: script "matrix.py" not found`. I've followed these instructions: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-weechat
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<clever> evanjs: and how are you building it?
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<clever> evanjs: you could change line 22 into a module, configuration = { imports = [ ./configuration.nix ]; other.config = true; };
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<clever> almost anywhere you can put a module, you can have either a naked module (function or set), or a path to a file containing the same
<clever> imports is just a list of those
<evanjs> well that's where I'm confused. I think nixos-generators does an eval-configuration, and I tried to put it into the configuration.nix before, that didn't work. lemme try that way
<evanjs> clever: :o
<evanjs> clever++
<{^_^}> clever's karma got increased to 455
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<evanjs> `rg --binary -i Sound /nix/store/fc42hnql3nvns59565hh25hd9skfhcdw-fix-esxi-image/nixos.ova` says nothing :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #89495 → chromium: 83.0.4103.61 -> 83.0.4103.97 → https://git.io/JfX1B
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #89196 → vscode: fix #76427 fallout → https://git.io/JfKok
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #89496 → pythonPackages.gast_0_2_2: init for tensorflow → https://git.io/JfX1X
<evanjs> lassulus: alright, so clever's advice seemed to work fine. Not sure if that's something most will know how to do or if an example would work in the README
<OmnipotentEntity> @fresheyeball, I have to go AFK unfortunately, here's where I'm leaving off, just so if you want to pick it up you know what I'm looking into. I suspect due to the fact that the nix store path is the aeson store path, (despite not even mentioning aeson in any of the .nix files in your repo?) that there is an issue with priority somehow.
<evanjs> e.g. specifying options for the evaluation of the VM or etc, vs the configuration for the resulting image
<evanjs> Unless I'm reading it wrong and those are all part of configuration.nix, so to speak
<OmnipotentEntity> And the ghc so in the aeson package is being stripped while in the normal compiler it might not be.
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<dgpratt> I recall seeing somewhere a technique to "root" a nix-shell environment such that GC won't blow it away, but I'm failing to find it
<dgpratt> I see there is a tool "direnv" that could be used for this, but at present I don't want to have to download/configure/learn another tool
<dgpratt> is there a relatively straightforward way to prevent a nix-shell environment from being GCd?
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<energizer> why does a lorri shell sometimes have a different PATH from the corresponding nix-shell?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @0x4A6F closed pull request #87272 → xandikos: 0.1.0 -> 0.2.1 → https://git.io/JfcyL
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<pistache> dgpratt: you can add a symlink to the directory in /nix/var/nix/gcroots
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @0x4A6F opened pull request #89498 → xandikos: 0.1.0 -> 0.2.2 → https://git.io/JfXMX
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<dgpratt> thanks pistache -- the directory containing e.g. the shell.nix file I guess?
<dgpratt> came across this just now, not sure the relevance to my inquiry https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/2208
<{^_^}> nix#2208 (by goodwillcoding, 2 years ago, open): nix-shell dependencies can be garbage collected any time now / persistent nix-shell envs
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<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: I am back
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<energizer> i'm trying to mount an sshfs using this technique https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21748#issuecomment-368038094 but systemd says "mount[2903]: /bin/sh: sshfs: command not found"
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<energizer> how can i fix it?
<dxtr> So what's the difference between, for example, nixos.dovecot and nixpkgs.dovecot ?
<dxtr> Is the one in nixpkgs updated more often?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer closed pull request #63661 → new: python-modules/tinytag at 1.2.2 → https://git.io/fjw0O
<energizer> dxtr: are you talking about the result of `nix search`?
<dxtr> yes
<energizer> in normal cases they are the same. that's a ui misfeature that's been fixed in master
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<dxtr> Oh alright
<dxtr> I was thinking the stuff under nixos was like "stable" and nixpkgs unstable and was worried I was mixing them :P
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<jasom> What's the easiest way to have the result of a "nix-build" added to the GC roots?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #88204 → ksmoothdock: init at 6.3 stable → https://git.io/JfzWX
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<evils> jasom: there's probably an explicit command, so here's the wrong answer: `nix-env -i ./result`
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<jasom> evils: yeah, I don't want it in my environment...
<energizer> jasom: doesn't that happen by default?
<jasom> energizer: if so, great!
<evils> though i think that results link existing adds it to /nix/var/nix/gcroots/auto
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<jasom> energizer: oh The result of the build is automatically registered as a root of the Nix garbage collector. This root disappears automatically when the result symlink is deleted or renamed. So don’t rename the symlink.
<balsoft> jasom: it's added by default AFAIK
<evanjs> what's the easiest way to get the e.g. `nixos-20.09pre-git-x86_64-linux` out of a VM output? I've seen eg revisionWithDefault but that's not what I'm looking for
<balsoft> jasom: If you want to add an arbitrary GC root, you can do so with nix-store --add-root
<evanjs> All I can find is 20.09pre226148.0f5ce2fac0c and I'm not sure how the other is constructed
<jasom> energizer: son't know how I missed that. I was renaming the result which is why it disappeared
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<evanjs> ahhh wait I think I just have a bad/explicit path in sed and that's what's throwing all of this off
<evanjs> (xy problem)
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<deech> I have installed NixOS on my Dell Precision M6700 and having issues getting wifi to work. I get a message saying that my wlan interface can't be brought up because "Operation not possible due to RF-kill". I see a number of articles about unblocking with 'rfkill' but am I doing something wrong in my configuration.nix?
<turlando> deech rfkill list looks fine?
<deech> `phy0: Wireless LAN ... Hard blocked: yes` so it is blocked.
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to more-redirects « redirect /nixos and /nixpkgs to / »: https://git.io/JfXS1
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas opened pull request #442 → redirect /nixos and /nixpkgs to / → https://git.io/JfXSD
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<turlando> deech that suggests that an hardware switch for wireless connectivity is in the off position. is that the case?
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas merged pull request #441 → homepage: Fix horizontal scroll on narrower widths → https://git.io/JfX2r
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<deech> No. I toggled it.
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<turlando> and I guess you already tried rfkill unblock all as root, right?
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<deech> turlando: I didn't try that because I thought I may have some issues in my configuration.nix. Thought I'd ask here.
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<jlv[m]> Any idea why NixOps is giving me "error: cannot figure out user name" when I try to deploy a libvirtd machine?
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<eadwu[m]> You might be using an outdated version for the plugin
<eadwu[m]> If it's the same issue I'm thinking about then it should've been fixed
<jlv[m]> eadwu: I do have NixOps pinned for reproducability. It worked the last time I tried it, but I can always try updating.
<deech> Looks like I have to run 'rfkill unblock all' on startup, where do I put things to run on startup?
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<jlv[m]> deech: `system.activationScripts`
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<jlv[m]> Oh wait. That runs when you activate configuration. Nvm.
<jlv[m]> If you want something to run a startup, you can always add a systemd service.
<fresheyeball> OmnipotentEntity: I am trying to move to 20.03
<fresheyeball> lets see how long that takes to build...
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<jlv[m]> deech: `systemd.services`
<fragamus_> hi I'm trying to install stack-0.1.10.1 from 16.03 version of nix packages
<infinisil> fragamus_: That's ancient!
<fragamus_> I added 16.03 (emu) to my channels
<fragamus_> the version I want does appear in 16.03 but I can not install it
<fragamus_> I added the channel thus: nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-16.03/nixexprs.tar.xz emu
<fragamus_> I did the update: nix-channel --update
<jlv[m]> fragamus_: how are you trying to install it?
<fragamus_> nix-env -f "<emu>" -i 'stack-0.1.10.1'
<clever> ,-iA
<{^_^}> see ,-A
<clever> ,-A
<{^_^}> You'll usually want to use nix-env -i with -A. It's faster and more precise. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/nix-env_-iA for details.
<fragamus_> ok
<fragamus_> error: attribute 'stack-0' in selection path 'stack-0.1.10.1' not found
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<fragamus_> it is saying that 'stack-0' not found WTF
<fragamus_> that's what it has been saying all along
<clever> fragamus_: -iA stack
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<fragamus_> if I do that it grabs a different version
<ritchan> Hi folks, I installed nix-env -iA nixos.zfs and even specified it in my environment.systemPackages as 'zfs', but I never seem to have the actual zfs kernel modules? (running 5.4.42)
<clever> fragamus_: `nix repl '<emu>'` and use tab completion to figure out the attr name
<clever> ritchan: you only get kernel modules if you set boot.supportedFilesystems = [ "zfs" ];
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<cransom> fragamus_: try -iA haskellPackages.stack_0_1_10_1
<ritchan> @clever thanks. why do I need to set networking.hostId though? I've never had to set that on a Linux system before
<clever> ritchan: zfs uses hostId to figure out if a pool is being imported on 2 machines at once (via network blocks), vs improper reboot (same hostid)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @LnL7 merged pull request #89273 → plex: 1.19.2.2737-b69929dab -> 1.19.3.2852-219a9974e → https://git.io/Jf6MM
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<ncakerlist> hi
<ncakerlist> why is nixos considered cool?
<ncakerlist> what's so special about it that arch doesn't have
<Rusty1> gchristensen:
<keithy[m]> its not about the destination, its the journey to get there that is special
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<ncakerlist> Rusty1: keithy[m] why nixos
<simpson> ncakerlist: It's the other way around, really; NixOS *doesn't* have a bunch of features common to other distros.
<ncakerlist> why not just arch linux
<ncakerlist> simpson: what's so special about nixos than arch linux
<keithy[m]> I just answered your question
<ncakerlist> i like DIY arch or gentoo (that's too hard)
<simpson> ncakerlist: How would you reproduce an Arch setup?
<ncakerlist> keithy[m]: no you didn't
<ncakerlist> simpson: copy paste
<keithy[m]> yes I did, the destination is much the same.
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<ncakerlist> keithy[m]: what philosophy are you blathering
<ncakerlist> let's just talk in english
<energizer> simpson: git checkout master && ./install-arch
<keithy[m]> the journey to get there is effectively a single file in nixos
<ncakerlist> nixos is cool just like arch linux?
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<ncakerlist> if so i would love to give it a try guys
<gustavderdrache> what makes a distro cool?
<gchristensen> ncakerlist: I dunno if it is cool, but it certainly solves my problems of reproducible and isolated builds
<gchristensen> ncakerlist: https://nixos.org/ has some info about it, you might find it cool
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<energizer> ncakerlist: nixos is hard to use. i'd say at this point it's mainly appropriate for software developers
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andersk opened pull request #89503 → gstreamer: Fix wrapper quoting → https://git.io/JfXHD
<keithy[m]> if it solves your problem then its cool, otherwise its a lot to learn for nuthin
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #89504 → buildbot: 2.7.0 -> 2.8.0 → https://git.io/JfXHS
<keithy[m]> I just spent all day recreating a redhat server again and again in vagrant to get it right... this would have been easy in nixos
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<energizer> keithy[m]: because you would've already spent weeks getting it right the first time
<simpson> keithy[m]: Although, merely by *existing*, Nix demonstrates how to obsolete the older schools of package management, in favor of isolation and the attendant benefits.
<azazel> keithy: cool! do more of that
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<fragamus_> clever: i got into the nix-repl <emu> but I am not sure what to do now that I am in that
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<fragamus_> Loading '<emu>'... Added 6120 variables.
<fragamus_> clever: I typed :a stack but tab completion does not reveal any versions
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #89505 → release-lib.nix: remove innacurate platform groups → https://git.io/JfXQe
<{^_^}> [nix] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #3664 → Add `src/libutil/tests/libutil-tests` to `.gitignore` → https://git.io/JfXQv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien opened pull request #89506 → epkowa: fix parsing of interpreters (#82909) → https://git.io/JfXQJ
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<EatThem> hey :) is it possible to import *.nix files in configuration.nix based on uname? so like if i'm on my laptop import this, on server import this etc.
<infinisil> EatThem: I guess you're using git to have a single repo for all machines?
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<simpson> Sure. Something like `let name = ...; in { networking.hostName = name; imports = if (name == "foo") ...; }`
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<EatThem> so its imports = if (name == "foo") nixfile.nix; ?
<EatThem> thx so far @ simpson
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<simpson> I dunno, I don't personally do this. But something like that.
<EatThem> alright will google :)
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<gchristensen> btw everyone thanks for avoiding the "of course nixos is cool" option in that discussion
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<EatThem> infinisil: yep i try to ^^
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<simpson> No worries. I have no idea how to measure "cool". ncakerlist, my point was that in NixOS, reproducibility is the default rather than something special that has to be sought out. We *do* still have a r13y project like Arch's, but we enjoy day-to-day purity without much effort.
<ncakerlist> simpson: what reproducibility why it's important
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple opened pull request #89507 → pythonPackages.wtforms: 2.1 -> 2.3.1 → https://git.io/JfX7U
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<energizer> trying to get sshfs to mount with systemd.mounts is not working, in every possible manifestation
<simpson> ncakerlist: There's a bunch of approaches, but the one I usually take is that I am not the same person that I was in the past. Specifically, I am not the person who scrawled into configuration.nix late at night several months ago. So, it's nice when build tools support doing *exactly* the same thing.
<energizer> does anybody have an sshfs mount in their config?
<EatThem> is it possible to change the architecture with a runtime rebuild? like from aarch64 to armv7
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<simpson> No, one would need a reboot, or at least kexec, right?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @herrwiese closed pull request #89390 → sogo: Add support for SMTP-STARTTLS/SMTP-SSL → https://git.io/JfPRo
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<ar> I'm trying to build my own custom rpi4 sd image, based on the nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/sd-image-raspberrypi4.nix, and i'm building it with "nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A config.system.build.sdImage --argstr system aarch64-linux -I nixos-config=nixos-rpi4-ssh-and-iptables.nix", but it looks like the sd image gets reused between runs despite making changes to the file
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<ar> any ideas?
<EatThem> but possible with a reboot @simpson?
<simpson> EatThem: Maybe? It should be just like any other dual-booting multiarch scenario, but such scenarios aren't common and I can't remember the last time I fiddled with one.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #89507 → pythonPackages.wtforms: 2.1 -> 2.3.1 → https://git.io/JfX7U
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @bhipple to master « pythonPackages.wtforms: 2.1 -> 2.3.1 »: https://git.io/JfX76
<fps> ar: you mean you get the exact same output oath for your result/ symlink?
<fps> s/oath/hash/
<ar> hmm
<ar> sorry, that was probably a pebkac
<ar> as in, the change i was making, was probably a noop
<fps> but also enlighten me! you use -I nixos-config=...
<fps> looking at the man page of nix-build i don't see -I taking name/value pairs
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<clever> fps: -I takes the same thing that goes into $NIX_PATH
<fps> oh ok, it's setting a prefix, so <nixos-config> resolves to his specified path?
<clever> yeah
<fps> ok, got it
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<lovesegfault> if I have { ... }@args: how can I override one of the attrs in args?
<ritchan> I just screwed up my zfs import upon boot command, so I had to boot using "Generation 7" instead of "Generation 8". Howevere, when I run `nix-env --list-generations`, it shows me that only generation 5 is available (I ran garbage collect earlier so 1-4 is gone). What's going on?
<lovesegfault> basically if the attr exists override it, if it doesn't insert
<ritchan> I just screwed up my zfs import upon boot command, so I had to boot using "Generation 7" instead of "Generation 8". However, when I run `nix-env --list-generations`, it shows me that only generation 5 is available (I ran garbage collect earlier so 1-4 is gone). What's going on?
<ritchan> whoa i can't edit...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JfX5G
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<quinn_> energizer: any reason you aren't using fileSystems.foo?
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<ritchan> my bad, just read about user environments vs system environments
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<clever> ritchan: nix-env --profile /nix/var/nix/profiles/system --list-generations
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<cole-h> lovesegfault: Maye something like `// { maybe = args.maybe or "something"; }`?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tuedel opened pull request #89509 → nodePackages: Add rollup and regenerate set → https://git.io/JfX5P
<lovesegfault> cole-h: yep, ended up with that
<cole-h> :P
<ritchan> @clever thanks
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<energizer> quinn_: i couldn't get that to work either. fileSystems.foo = {device="${pkgs.sshfs}/bin/sshfs#remote:/path"; mountPoint = "/mnt/point"; fsType="fuse";} `mount: timed out Killed by signal 15.`
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<energizer> journalctl shows it successfully authenticated
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<energizer> but something goes wrong after that
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<david-sawatzke[m> Is there a way to fix this?
<david-sawatzke[m> (I'm waaay out of my depth)
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<energizer> david-sawatzke[m: are you using poetry2nix?
<david-sawatzke[m> No, i'm trying to package mu-editor
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #89510 → nixos/buildbot-master: fix typo in services.buildbot-master.bpPort → https://git.io/JfXdZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #89501 → openttd: 1.10.1 -> 1.10.2 → https://git.io/JfXyS
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<quinn_> energizer: oh it might not be waiting to mount until the network target is up
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<energizer> quinn_: isn't the network already up, i'm using it afterall
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<dkjii> how do you go about cleaning the nix store? can i just rm -rf /nix/store/* ?
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<energizer> dkjii: no
<energizer> nix-collect-garbage
<energizer> david-sawatzke[m: i think poetry2nix will work it automatically
<dkjii> nix-collect-garbage didnt empty out the downloaded nixpkgs and delete user environments
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<energizer> there's a -d flag for more deleting, but be careful, if you delete too much you can't roll back
<quinn> energizer: oh i meant during boot. fstab might be applied before network target. idk why that would be happening on a nixos-rebuild switch
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<quinn> energizer: if you're getting that error while the network target is up, i would check journalctl -xe, that sounds like a weird network error
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<quinn> you should be able to use journalctl -xe with systemd.mounts too though
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<david-sawatzke[m> energizer: I don't think they use poetry
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yusdacra opened pull request #89511 → godot-server, godot-headless: init at 3.2.1 → https://git.io/JfXdr
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<energizer> david-sawatzke[m: that's not a problem
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<energizer> quinn: i dont see anything, just mount: Mounting timed out. Terminating.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Anton-Latukha opened pull request #89513 → Clean-up for some packages in `haskell-modules/configuration-common.nix`. → https://git.io/JfXdD
<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas pushed to footer « adding a footer and a thank you to bonsai »: https://git.io/JfXdy
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<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas opened pull request #57 → adding a footer and a thank you to bonsai → https://git.io/JfXdS
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<dkjii> where do i put this nix file for it to affect nix-env? https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/fdhoer/impureusenativeoptimizations/
<energizer> better, avoid nix-env
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<dkjii> how so? I thought that's what was used for installing packages
<energizer> are you on nixos?
<dkjii> no I am trying to install nixos
<dkjii> from nix
<energizer> install packages by putting them in your configuration
<dkjii> I need to install nixos-generate-config & al from nix first, do I just prepend the overlay to my nix expression to install them?
<dkjii> i'm using this: "nix-env -iE "_: with import <nixpkgs/nixos> { configuration = {}; }; with config.system.build; [ nixos-generate-config nixos-install nixos-enter manual.manpages ]""
<energizer> i see
<david-sawatzke[m> energizer: Using poetry2nix just complains about missing poetry stuff
<clever> dkjii: add it inside the {} for configuration=
<quinn> energizer: that's super strange. maybe try testing it with a local sshfs share to eliminate sources of error?
<quinn> cause timeout is probably a network timeout
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<david-sawatzke[m> energizer: And I don't see how it can "fix" python37Packages.qscintilla-qt5 containing a copy of pyqt5 in nixpkgs
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<dkjii> clever: clever: thanks, i added it, is there a way to force build from source? eg specify empty binary cache?
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<clever> dkjii: why do you want to build from source?
<dkjii> i see -b option to nix-env but no source building equivalent
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<dkjii> Used to gentoo lol, but i plan on having my distcc server do the building
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @das-g opened pull request #89514 → python3Packages.pytest-rerunfailures: 8.0 -> 9.0 → https://git.io/JfXFs
<clever> dkjii: nix cant use distcc, but has its own remote builder logic
<dkjii> it also helps debug repos in my experience
<clever> dkjii: if any inputs to a build change, it will be rebuilt, no need to force a rebuild from source
<dkjii> yes but it'll try to get it from the binary cache if it can
<dkjii> wondering if that cna be turned off
<clever> dkjii: why?
<clever> if everything is working properly, your just wasting cpu time to produce the identical result
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<dkjii> don't trust binary cache much and I enjoy debugging compile errors and reporting upstream
<dkjii> if everyone relies on a binary cache you get packages which have shitty build systems
<clever> dkjii: any compile errors that would occur would have happened on the cache as well, but you can build with `--option substituters ""` to ignore the cache anyways
<clever> dkjii: the nix sandbox heavily enforces what a package can see while building, to ensure it builds the same way on any machine
<dkjii> that's fair since it's functional w/r to the build environment
<dkjii> had my share of issues with gentoo build system
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<energizer> david-sawatzke[m: i just tried it with poetry2nix, i think i hit a bug in poetry2nix
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<sshow> can I run arbitrary docker images inside nixos?
<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas merged pull request #57 → adding a footer and a thank you to bonsai → https://git.io/JfXdS
<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas pushed to master « adding a footer and a thank you to bonsai (#57) »: https://git.io/JfXFX
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<dkjii> clever: i added the overlay from that reddit thread in the configuration={} like so https://bpa.st/O3NA and nix-env -iE is just returning with no output, any idea why?
<dkjii> clever: like so https://bpa.st/3LWA i mean
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to integrate-new-search « remove old packages-explorer »: https://git.io/JfXFH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lopsided98 opened pull request #89515 → qgroundcontrol: 3.5.5 -> 4.0.8 → https://git.io/JfXFA
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<clever> dkjii: its possible that that had no impact on the build, so nix didnt need to do anything
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<dkjii> i reinstalled from clean state and it still does that (e.g. nix store is empty minus some env files and nixpkg)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #89504 → buildbot: 2.7.0 -> 2.8.0 → https://git.io/JfXHS
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<clever> dkjii: try `nix-build -E '....'` ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #89435 → [20.03] gitlab: 12.8.10 -> 12.10.9 → https://git.io/JfPAb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 8 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/JfXbm
<clever> nix-env sometimes eats error messages
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas opened pull request #453 → remove not used files → https://git.io/JfXbO
<Henson> Hi everyone, I've got fingerprint auth enabled in NixOS. When I do so, it causes all PAM modules to add fingerprint authentication. But I want to allow it only for certain PAM modules. Is there a way in the NixOS configuration that I can iterate over all of the attributes in the security.pam.services set without having to specify them individually to turn fingerprint auth off?
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<Henson> I tried doing "security.pam.services = pkgs.lib.mapAttrs (name: value: value.override { fprintAuth = false; }) config.security.pam.services;" but end up with an infinite recursion error, which I kind of expected.
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<clever> Henson: you cant map over a nixos option like that, you need to set it without depending on the current value
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<clever> Henson: youll need to modify what was adding it
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<Henson> clever: so I have to either overlay the NixOS configuration to disable the part where it's automatically turned on for all PAM modules, or manually modify every PAM module to disable fingerprint auth?
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<clever> Henson: yeah
<Henson> clever: ok.
<Henson> clever: thanks for your help!
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<flokli> Henson: the pam config generation needs some love, there's quite some TODOs in there. If you feel like tackling this, happy to help :-)
<flokli> a bit in the style of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/85998
<{^_^}> #85998 (by dasJ, 5 weeks ago, merged): nixos/nsswitch: Make databases more configurable
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<Henson> flokli: thanks for the pointer, I'll take a look at it
<flokli> :-)
<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas pushed to fix-on-which-index-to-search « use schema version also in packages index »: https://git.io/JfXbP
<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas opened pull request #58 → use schema version also in packages index → https://git.io/JfXbX
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas merged pull request #453 → remove not used files → https://git.io/JfXbO
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<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @garbas merged pull request #58 → use schema version also in packages index → https://git.io/JfXbX
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to integrate-new-search « use new site »: https://git.io/JfXNG
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas opened pull request #454 → Integrate new search → https://git.io/JfXNZ
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