eyJhb changed the topic of #nixos-on-your-router to: NixOS on your Router || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-on-your-router
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<srhb> hexa-: Exciting!
<eyJhb> srhb: did you do any more considerations on your own setup?:D
<hexa-> it is, though evals do take their sweet time on their CPU
<srhb> I mostly dropped the idea, since it looked like setting up a real good wifi AP (which was my goal) is really hard with something that doesn't cost way more than an ootb openwrt router or something, and which doesn't kill the environment wasting way too much power.
<hexa-> there are few ootb openwrt devices, mostly gl.inet
<hexa-> I own a GL-B1300, which uses an IPQ4029 SoC (4x717 MHz Cortex A7), Dualband AC-Wave2 2x2:2
<hexa-> but depending on the area you are trying to cover something else might be more interesting :)
<hexa-> I'm pretty familiar with OpenWrt and plausible hardware if you have questions
<srhb> That does sound nice. :) But yeah, mostly "ootb" as opposed to some custom hardware solution
<hexa-> s/pretty/somewhat/
<srhb> hexa-: Thank you! :)
<srhb> I'm sort of scrambling to get something minimal going before everything closes during christmas, so I may indeed get back after that.
<hexa-> something ceiling mounted?
<srhb> Probably sensible, yeah! Though my appartment is really quite small and apparently pretty wifi-permeable.
<hexa-> anyway, there is a mounting kit for the gl-b1300, but it is only available on the vendors shop
<hexa-> tbh, I don't think there are any other ceiling-mountable APs out there that come with OpenWrt
<hexa-> there was OpenMesh, but they were bought by Datto
<hexa-> If you don't mind flashing there is the Aruba AP11
<hexa-> and a friend is now working on getting openwrt running on the Unifi 6 Lite
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<hexa-> which has AX on 5 GHz at least
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<srhb> I do not mind flashing at all :)
<srhb> Oh, really, I didn't think Unifi equipment was a realistic flash target.. Thought they were too OSS hostile.
<hexa-> They are quite hostile, yeah.
<hexa-> They are certainly violating the GPL here and there
<hexa-> the 6 Lite is also more locked down than the WiFi 5 series
<hexa-> we're a bit afraid of the Unifi 6 LR, which will be ARMv8 and likely come with trustzone enabled
<srhb> Oh, yeah, that sounds "fun" :P
<hexa-> so the broad overview is: ipq40xx is an armv7 qualcomm platform that has some problems with vlan tagging, as it uses vlans internally on its switch
<hexa-> the unifi 6 lite will be mt7622 (iirc), which is dual core mips
<hexa-> unifi ac series is ath79 (qc95xx, mips single core)
<hexa-> the gl-b1300 and aruba ap11 are ipq40xx
<srhb> I quite like the look of gl-b1300
<srhb> In fact that looks pretty ideal...
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<srhb> I don't _think_ I'll be needing VLAN tagging.. Though I suppose it's nice for guest networks
<hexa-> yeah, or iot/things
<srhb> hm, good point.
<hexa-> you'll usually want your access network to be wpa3-personal with mfp enabled
<hexa-> but iot does not support that and will be stuck on wpa2
<srhb> Yeah, I hadn't thought of that.
<srhb> Tanks for the heads-up.
<hexa-> I have heard of people having vlans working on there
<hexa-> so it's doable
<hexa-> tbh, I'm currently using mine for Freifunk, I might give it a shot as a home wifi ap
<hexa-> if you'd like to ssh into one to browse I can tmate you in :p
<srhb> That's very kind of you. Thanks, I may take you up on that when I have a chance to work on this again :)
<srhb> Also really cool wrt. Freifunk, I wish we had something like that.
<hexa-> I guess whether or not something like Freifunk happens depends on how hostile the regulation is towards open wifi access points.
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<andi-> )I wish Freifunk would be more about alternative infrastructure than about accessing WhatsApp :/
<gchristensen> I wish I lived within 100mi of someone else remotely interested in something similar to freifunk
<hexa-> :<
<hexa-> I'm not entirely sure about the effective gain we get from having Freifunk around here
<hexa-> it's a fun project most of the time
<eyJhb> andi-: What if they really love Whatsapp?
<eyJhb> hexa-: What is the performance of it? Like throughput?
<cirno-999> FreiApp
<eyJhb> Hmm that's quite good :D
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<sphalerite> hexa-: I know of at least one person who used freifunk for internet access while homeless over here
<hexa-> sphalerite: best case scenario
<sphalerite> yeah. I also like the idea of having my neighbours' back if their internet connection dies (and mine isn't affected)
<eyJhb> hexa-++
<{^_^}> hexa-'s karma got increased to 17
<hexa-> which happens too rarely :<
<sphalerite> haha
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<sphalerite> I'm planning to reorganise my network a bit once my lx2k arrives. I'm still hesitating between using the linksys wrt that's currently my router as an AP vs. selling it and using an ac-lite (potentially with nix-built firmware)…
<sphalerite> Any opinions?
<hexa-> the ac lite is an okay ap that works well with openwrt
<hexa-> it has no switch, so that is a plus configuration wise
<hexa-> and if you just want it to do wifi it's a good fit
<hexa-> I have not looked into nixwrt much
<hexa-> Anyway, the Linksys WRT1900 is a beast, would maybe make sense if you want it to actually be a router and do forwarding, vpn etc
<hexa-> but since it is still an embedded device you'd also have to go with nixwrt, though I don't believe telent has support for mvebu yet
<hexa-> so, opinions, yeah. lots.
<hexa-> if you have specific questions, ask.
<sphalerite> yeah and it's not a wrt1900 but a wrt3200acm which is another bit heavier
<hexa-> welp
<sphalerite> which is why I think it doesn't make that much sense when I'm not using it as a router. Unless the wifi's much better than from an ac-lite
<hexa-> (still mvebu I think)
<sphalerite> yep
<hexa-> uh, so wifi.
<hexa-> your thinkpad laptop and android phone usually have 2T2R configurations
<hexa-> or 2x2:2
<hexa-> meaning two send and receive chains
<hexa-> the same goes for the unifi ac lite
<hexa-> it is theoretically limited to one client using all the bandwidth
<hexa-> if you often have multiple clients using lots of wifi capacity you might profit from more than 2x2:2
<hexa-> at home you usually don't have t hat requirement
<sphalerite> yeah, especially since I live alone and only have my laptop and my phone that would use much bandwidth via wifi
<sphalerite> oh wow openwrt wiki has a new look
<hexa-> yep, they have a new brand
<sphalerite> uuuh and the wrt3200acm has 2× 4×4:3 if I'm understanding this right
<hexa-> hi, this is overkill calling
<sphalerite> hahaha
<sphalerite> well, it was a gift :>
<hexa-> i'm also not much of a fan of mesh routers
<hexa-> triband, as in dual 5ghz
<hexa-> they suck up all the airtime while meshing with 160 MHz etc
<hexa-> but sure, if people don't have LAN cables in place that might be an option still
<sphalerite> I don't, except in the one shelf unit where most of my network tech is
<sphalerite> still, I'm only wifi-ing a laptop and a phone, so…
<hexa-> i have a single wifi card in an apu, so tell me about it :p
<sphalerite> and guests. Still not enough to need that much wifi :D
<sphalerite> Especially given the amount of guests I've had recently. Ha.
<hexa-> sure, measuring your requirements based on 2020
<sphalerite> then again, I have this device and I'm not sure how well it would sell…
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