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s/in time/at all/
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cole-h >
To the best of my knowledge, our darwin builder is still dead.
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cole-h >
So it adds value for darwin, but not aarch / x86
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Well, also it (tries to) build affected downstream packages, which ofborg doesn't do
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It didn't catch lots of things, that's why fridh suggested to use hydra-eval-jobs as well.
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cole-h >
Here's the hydra-eval-jobs incantation I'm using: `nix shell -f. hydra-unstable -c hydra-eval-jobs -I . pkgs/top-level/release.nix`
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cole-h >
siraben: FWIW, that wouldn't have helped in this case
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cole-h >
Since it's callPackaged from inside a callPackage and thus isn't a package Hydra is aware of.
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cole-h: Oh I see.
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kalbasit_ >
How to use Nix 2.4's `nix shell` to get `python3.withPackages(ps: [ ... ])`?
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cole-h >
--expr maybe
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siraben >
What's the difference between nixpkgs-unstable and nixos-unstable?
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samueldr >
nixos-unstable runs the tests for nixos, while nixpkgs doesn't; nixpkgs-unstable also waits for darwin builds, while nixos doesn't
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samueldr >
well... "also waits" is not said right... the nixpkgs jobset also includes darwin builds, while nixos only has linux builds
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samueldr >
if you're on NixOS,
**do not** build your system against nixpkgs-* channels
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samueldr >
while unlikely [citation needed], you might end up in a situation where your system is rendered unbootable, or worse!
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siraben >
Does Guix have a flakes equivalent?
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The closest thing is a channel
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You can use guix describe --format=channels to get a declarative channel specification
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siraben >
mjlbach: thanks, reading through that log was informative
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rajivr >
Would it fair to think of store paths (`/nix/store/...`) term/value of hypothetical `derivation` type and `mkDerivation` as a function from `[derivation] -> derivation`?
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hrm, just noticed we have a "dpulls" check on pull requests now. it has been asked about yesterday, but no answers came up afaict.
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siraben >
yeah, what is that?
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It's a way to have PRs that depend on eachother without having the commits actually appear in the log
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siraben >
supersandro2000: shit, how much did I break in pkgs/tools
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siraben >
ofborg doesn't eval everything, hmm.
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siraben >
should have used Profpatsch's hnix script!
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supersandro2000 >
siraben: I think this wouldn't be the first time such plugins are broken
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supersandro2000 >
if they are not checked by CI or review then this probably happens every few months
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apparently NixOS is an amazing company
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Profpatsch >
siraben: I think the moste important thing we need is a way to
*actually* check that everything still evaluates. The ofborg check apparently does not do that. flokli mentioned there is a better way, but I didn’t understand what the idea is.
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cole-h >
Making
*everything* evaluate is hard, especially when packages have things `callPackage`d inside them (e.g. the beats plugins)
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cole-h: We need to define what everything is first.
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Profpatsch >
e.g. ideally there would be more tests so that all code paths are checked, but for stuff which doesn’t have an entry point we simply can’t reach it
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Profpatsch >
e.g. if something only breaks when a *Support flag is flipped
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V >
siraben: I told you :p
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siraben >
Some Nix static analysis would be great
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niksnut >
hexa-: looks like a mistake, it was only supposed to be enabled for the nix repo
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niksnut >
or maybe somebody enabled it intentionally, but I can't find a record of that
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niksnut >
we need version-controlled declarative github configuration...
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aterius >
Does DynamicUser retain state in systemd services if you use StateDirectory?
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edef >
define retain state
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aterius >
As in, I need to generate keys on first run for a nixos module I'm writing
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edef >
StateDirectory doesbn't get deleted, if that's what you're asking
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aterius >
Ah perfect
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edef >
in general there's no mechanism for deleting unused state directories
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edef >
ie nothing will ever delete it, to my knowledge
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edef >
aterius: ooh, is this the new Matrix homeserver?
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aterius >
Yeah! It's almost there
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aterius >
I mean, the PR works 100%, but dendrite is almost there haha
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edef >
i've essentially given up on Matrix because the server running my homeserver isn't enjoying the load
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edef >
is there a migration path?
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aterius >
Yeah, hence why I'm packaging dendrite
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aterius >
I think it's implemented but not documented?
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{^_^} >
matrix-org/dendrite#1705 (by Ralayax, 5 days ago, open): Migration process from Synapse
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kiinda wonder if we can make that smooth on NixOS down the line
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aterius >
Hmm, if I set StateDirectory and WorkingDirectory both to the configured dataDir, I get this error when I try to generate the keys
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aterius >
matrix-dendriter-key-generator.service: Changing to the requested working directory failed: No such file or directory
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aterius >
matrix-dendriter-key-generator.service: Changing to the requested working directory failed: No such file or directory
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srk >
is it created? maybe you need systemd.tmpfiles as well
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srk >
hmm, I see it's also home of matrix-dendrite user
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aterius >
I removed that user
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aterius >
That version works, I'm trying to make it use DynamicUser instead
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edef >
it should create StateDirectory on startup
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srk >
maybe it tries to switch to WorkingDirectory before StateDirectory takes effect
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aterius >
I tried manually writing to StateDirectory and it's claiming that it is immutable
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aterius >
Oh I see the issue
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srk >
absolute vs relative?
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aterius >
forgot to change it when I switched
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aterius >
Cool, everything works. Just pushed the latest if anyone wants to try it out and provide feedback. No promises it won't break everything 😆
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<rajivr "I am trying to get a better unde"> I think they are free-form values
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siraben: how do you like the graph now?
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V >
Absolutely plummeting
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V >
Is the "regenerating with a better regex" comment still relevant?
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V: just added it
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qyliss >
V: I'm changing to [sS]tdenv[a-zA-Z0-9_'-]*\.lib\b
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qyliss >
so we don't include stdenv.cc.cc.lib or stdenv.libc
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domenkozar[m] >
hmm volth@volth.com email doesn't work, anyone has an alternative?
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qyliss >
did you try discourse?
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domenkozar[m] >
trying that now
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domenkozar[m] >
thanks
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jtojnar >
rnhmjoj: looks like parseDrvName strikes again
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symphorien[m] >
opened by volth ?
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jtojnar >
symphorien: no, I think someone moved the repos around
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jtojnar >
wtf github
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rnhmjoj >
jtojnar: are you talking about the vapoursynth issue?
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jtojnar >
rnhmjoj: yeah
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rnhmjoj >
uhm, vapoursynth.name returns "vapoursynth-R49"
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rnhmjoj >
ok, i see the issue: { name = "/nix/store/b7f0cllsl77gs782jcy67bfycsv7kpp6-vapoursynth-R49.drv"; version = ""; }
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jtojnar >
maybe just strip R from the version name
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jtojnar >
but ideally, we would teach nix-env to recognize the pname and version attributes when provided
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rnhmjoj >
how is the packages.json file generated? could it not extract the version before the package is instantiated?
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jtojnar >
see the linked commit
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jtojnar >
(it is done using nix-env -qa --json)
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rnhmjoj >
others repositories are stripping the R, se i'll probably do that as well
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domenkozar[m] >
did anyone manage to get --arg working with nixos-rebuild?
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domenkozar[m] >
or is that not possible
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domenkozar[m] >
doesn't seem so :)
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lukegb >
anyone bored and want to merge #108741? :P
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lukegb >
oh wait, I should find that thread
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siraben >
qyliss: it looks great!
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Well it is a package repository after all, heh
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{^_^} >
nix#4463 (by jtojnar, 5 minutes ago, open): nix-env: Use pname and version attrs in -q
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supersandro2000 >
siraben: if you are under 70% you probably need to be a very picky repo
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supersandro2000 >
I think most repos have very high percentages
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supersandro2000 >
<§ jtojnar
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supersandro2000 >
<3 jtojnar
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{^_^} >
jtojnar's karma got increased to 66
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abathur >
gchristensen: I was so confused about why that link starts with "TRILLIAN LETS YOU"; did they not search that name first? :)
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gchristensen >
when you're google, you can name your language Go and ignore the existing language Go and just carry on
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abathur >
they're a good candidate for my shadowy global cabal that forces software projects to rename if they don't appear in the top X search results within N months
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abathur >
they can rig the results and it's literally not on the first page
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abathur >
it is the 2nd on p2 though :)
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abathur >
well, the gh for it is
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gchristensen >
grrr optimising a hydra query, I applied a change, and hydra decided right then that it was done running that particular query for a while
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supersandro2000 >
you don't want to be an open source web developer
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supersandro2000 >
learning every day
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supersandro2000 >
I only checked good repos...
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hydra#846 (by grahamc, 1 minute ago, open): BuildOutputs: index path with HASH
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qyliss >
gchristensen++
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gchristensen's karma got increased to 413
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gchristensen >
why is my table broken? :/
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V >
the markdown gods were angered by you typoing parallel
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V >
that's an impressively small change for the speedup it's giving
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V >
but such is the way with so many of these things
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V >
see? fixing it made your tables work :p
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gchristensen >
hydra's buildoutputs table is surely half a billion rows by now, and comparisons are faster when you have indexes :P
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srk >
hydra was migrated to aws?
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gchristensen >
no, this is a different hydra
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gchristensen++
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gchristensen >
I don't the foundation could really afford to run our database in RDS
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gchristensen >
it is on a pretty sizable hetzner machine
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srk >
how much ~mem?
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gchristensen >
64g iirc
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afraid to ask about its actual size :)
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gchristensen >
the db?
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infinisil >
gchristensen++ Nice
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srk >
yup, I wonder if hot-standbys or similar replicas could help with read-only performance
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gchristensen >
iirc eelco'd rather delete really old data than add more servers
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gchristensen >
unfortunately this performance insights page for this hydra doesn't show any more hydra queries which are outsized in call time
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gchristensen >
just internal queries they're running
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srk >
deleting old data might allow to add more servers :)
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gchristensen >
hehe
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I've just added status merge conflict to 188 PRs.
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#109801 (by Mathnerd314, 2 hours ago, open): README.md: Add merge chance badge
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That seems extremely poorly designed
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Although I have no hard data to back this up with, my feeling is that pull requests follow the generational hypothesis
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And... this definitely doesn't seem to account for stale PRs
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Really specific question, but has anyone ever dealt with compile_commands.json not including the appropriate header files when cmake is called from a nix-shell?
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Clangd is missing some headers
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