<jtojnar>
worldofpeaceI have reviewed all changelogs (except for these lines https://paste.gnome.org/p5lznh2mi) and all changes (except for the session-related, initial setup and extensions)
<worldofpeace>
Anything depend on it Jan Tojnar ? IIRC endless used that
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace gnome software supports it now
<worldofpeace>
(reads NEWS) "Add support for download scheduling using Mogwai", guess software and download scheduling can still be important for flatpaks
<jtojnar>
yeah that
<worldofpeace>
lol, your gist expired again. I guess I should copy it locally :D
<worldofpeace>
gist -> gnome paste
<worldofpeace>
ah wait, browser cache to the rescue
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace bah, I set it to last month
<worldofpeace>
Jan Tojnar: they do kinda have a point with "we don't see any use-case where sharing the clipboard is not the most convenient option".
<worldofpeace>
though clearly no security implications were taken into account
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace they mention precisely the use-case I care about – running untrusted software in the VM. even suggest the solution I would choose – air-gapped VMs rather than exposing individual hardening options
<worldofpeace>
Jan Tojnar: Right, though punting it to the future isn't the best resolution IMHO. they're not air-gapped now, so why not just have an on by default instead a non-optional on by default
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace yeah, but Boxes were not designed with this use case in mind so there might be other leaks
<jtojnar>
better come up with a properly thought-out air-gap, than disable just a clipboard sharing and invoke false sense of security
<worldofpeace>
I think that's a proficient evaluation.
<hyperfekt>
oh it was 15 years ago. sometimes it's crazy to think how old Nix is already. maybe it was slowing down development of the language, which shouldn't be as big a problem now. (although that could be thought of as a feature, considering the language is now probably so complex it'd be very hard to write a grammar)
<worldofpeace>
jonringer: PM me for any help on being a commiter
<jtojnar>
gchristensen we could add something like KaTeX but I am wary of adding yet another dependency to manual for just three equations
<gchristensen>
+1
<worldofpeace>
jonringer: In general, try to make it linked to an attribute. or perhaps a directory `nixos/doc:`
<worldofpeace>
jonringer: and everyone has the personal preferences when comes to pushing commits. Currently no guidelines for that
<jonringer>
worldofpeace: sounds good, thanks :)
<__monty__>
emily: What's not to like about the spec?
<emily>
__monty__: it's a procedural specification of a parsing algorithm with no formal grammar or even associated class or anything
<emily>
it's literally just "implement this string-munging/goto-ful algorithm in your C++ and call it a day"
<__monty__>
: $
<emily>
sure it's this way to be a descriptivist spec of existing behaviour, but it's kind of your job as a standards organization to analyse that behaviour and turn it into a proper grammar
<__monty__>
Yikes! This isn't getting RFC approval anytime soon, is it?
<emily>
and also this kind of thing is the cause of a huge number of security bugs, blah blah langsec, etc.
<emily>
who cares? whatwg has the browser manufacturers, they maintain the html spec, everyone abides by the url standard in practice (partially because the whole thing of whatwg is specifying what everyone just does in practice)
<emily>
so it's de-facto what you have to deal with
<emily>
it just is what it is
<emily>
and it would certainly be work for them to do what they should, and that work doesn't really benefit them unless they take a long-view on things like security and stuff, so *big shrug*
<emily>
eh, sorry for the offtopic; didn't notice this was -dev
<__monty__>
Thanks for the explanation anyway.
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<jtojnar>
I say to myself that I should not forget to stage the patch when I create it
<jtojnar>
I forget it anyway
<worldofpeace>
literally life with git every day :D
<hyperfekt>
I made a dirty hacky commit hook to prompt me for new files just because I reliably forgot every time to add them ^^