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<clever> disasm: we may want to fix this before the release, it can cause a fair amount of confusion: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/61308#issuecomment-528659587
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<jtojnar> worldofpeace: sorry, having network hickups, I force pushed over you
<worldofpeace> jtojnar: Yeah just noticed that. No problem, is it free for me to push it again?
<jtojnar> yeah, I should be done for now
<worldofpeace> jtojnar: PM'd with a question
<jtojnar> worldofpeace: sorry, did not get any, perhaps try again?
<worldofpeace> jtojnar: did that
<jtojnar> thanks
<jtojnar> on unrelated note, could we kill line-wrapping in the docs?
<samueldr> hm?
<samueldr> in the source files?
<samueldr> I at least half-agree, at the very least the way it's auto-indented and wrapped makes for un-ergonomic writing space :/
<jtojnar> samueldr: yeah, the diffs are even worse
<worldofpeace> don't we have auto formatting?
<jtojnar> worldofpeace: yeah, that's what I am complaining about
<{^_^}> #68181 (by jtojnar, 4 minutes ago, open): doc: Disable wrapping source
<worldofpeace> I kinda like hard line breaks in commit msg, but with docs this is actually getting annoying 👍️
<jtojnar> I hate them with fury even in commit messages but do respect them there as some programs complain
<jtojnar> really, they feel like some kind of typewriter-era atavism
<samueldr> you may already know, though here it is, it comes from the customs from mailing lists contributions of the kernel
<samueldr> it's all under the assumption that each commit will get sent as an e-mail
<jtojnar> yeah, I think I read a Linus's rant about it
<worldofpeace> Pretty much because of that sort of thing samueldr developed a taste for it
<samueldr> hm? I don't really... I always find out the summary line of my commits go in the red
<jtojnar> but I never bought into that argument. soft-wrapping is almost everywhere nowadays
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<samueldr> I agree, it's an anachronism that never truly was needed
<worldofpeace> Right, an aside: Linus rants ranked by hate https://github.com/corollari/linusrants
<jtojnar> 🤣️
<worldofpeace> jtojnar: could chrome-gnome-shell be default enabled (gnome)?
<jtojnar> worldofpeace: I do not see any downside
<jtojnar> but users will still need to install the browser extensions
<worldofpeace> Could we set the nixpkgs config for firefox?
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<jtojnar> worldofpeace: I am not sure why did the option not do that from the start
<worldofpeace> jtojnar: probably will do that then. epiphany doesn't need an extension right?
<jtojnar> worldofpeace: I read a comment yesterday saying that the only reason they keep firefox on their computer is because gnome extensions portal does not work in epiphany
<jtojnar> did not confirm that
<worldofpeace> that's super strange being that it's GNOME web, pretty much the blessed browser.
<worldofpeace> now I have to check brb
<worldofpeace> I guess it doesn't. soo weird.
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<srhb> Is anyone able to clear space on the packet builders now that Graham is out?
<srhb> (if that's truly the issue)
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<worldofpeace> Hey, if anyone who knows about PAM rules could look at #67917? it would be great so gnome-keyring and kwallet could work with lightdm. Thanks 🌻
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/67917 (by worldofpeace, 4 days ago, open): nixos/lightdm: fix pam rules
<FRidh> worldofpeace: ask https://github.com/e-user
<{^_^}> #17044 (by bennofs, 3 years ago, open): RFC: Unified PAM settings for different display managers
<worldofpeace> They're involved in nix again FRidh ?
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<worldofpeace> Just wanted to be sure since they're last Interaction I've had with them they weren't so happy about the work they were doing (great work) going unoticed and pointed out directly that they don't use nix much anymore.
<infinisil> (#61539 isn't related to this?)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/61539 (by GRBurst, 16 weeks ago, open): Gnome-Keyring Daemon not starting
<infinisil> Ah no I don't think so
<worldofpeace> just unlocking and creating bit with lightdm infinisil
<FRidh> worldofpeace: oh, I don't know about that. Yes, it was a pity how that went. Unfortunately not many know PAM here
<worldofpeace> FRidh: pam outwardly looks like a beast, though I've read https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-pam/. e-user claims it's actually not that complicated.
<worldofpeace> thanks FRidh
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<ivan> I'm scanning all open PRs for the addition of `types.string`
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<infinisil> ivan: Awesome!
<ivan> infinisil: I'm going to post this on 21 things unless you've got edits
<ivan> For the author, reviewers, and committers: this PR was scanned and appears to add a use of the deprecated `types.string`, which emits a warning as of #66346. Before merging, please change this to another type, possibly:
<ivan> - `types.listOf types.str` for a mergeable list of strings
<ivan> - `types.lines` for multi-line configuration or scripts where merging is possible
<ivan> - `types.str` for a single string where merging does not make sense, or cannot work
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/66346 (by Infinisil, 4 weeks ago, merged): Properly deprecate types.string
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<infinisil> ivan: That's perfect thanks
<ivan> thanks
<infinisil> Glad that PR is finally merged
<ivan> alright I'm done pasting
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<rycee> Anybody with Hydra access willing to make a build of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/67942? It includes a stdenv change and I would like to test it a bit before un-WIPping the PR…
<{^_^}> #67942 (by rycee, 4 days ago, open): WIP Support socket activated session dbus
<worldofpeace> rycee++
<{^_^}> rycee's karma got increased to 17
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<rycee> At least it should be limited to Linux, the Darwin stdenv should be unaffected.
<worldofpeace> ^ for sure a hydra something, maybe a jobset if it's not already overloaded :P.
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<ivan> I wish I could get cc'ed for updates on some packages that I don't maintain
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<andi-> Who are the 19.09 RMs?
<ivan> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/60833 in case anyone uses chromium or widevine and wants to review/merge
<{^_^}> #60833 (by jflanglois, 18 weeks ago, open): chromium: fix widevine
<infinisil> andi-: disasm and sphalerite
<andi-> infinisil: thanks
<ivan> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/52828 maintainer-approved PR
<{^_^}> #52828 (by ivan, 36 weeks ago, open): pyflame: fix the build on machines with kernel.yama.ptrace_scope > 0
<ivan> thanks FRidh
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<disasm> andi-: whatcha need?
<andi-> disasm: I pinged you on GitHub. I wanted to see what the requirements for systemd243 would be for inclusion IIRC branching is in a few hours but I'll be working on that during the weekend. So far it looks low-profile and would remove one more systemd to keep updated. (Waiting on a build of my notebooks closure from that branch).
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<FRidh2> disasm: any idea at what time tomorrow the branch-off will happen?
<FRidh2> andi-: for sure nixos tests would have to pass. I also think some people should have actually tried it
<andi-> FRidh2: nixos tests do pass besides one that I am still debugging (impurely added users do not currently get /dev/snd access; debugging this during the weekend).
<andi-> FRidh2: I vaguely remember 00:00:00 UTC. So in 3h and 35min unless I am mistaken.
<FRidh2> it's also a mass-rebuild. staging-next can go in master in a couple of hours. Staging is also being build already, hopefully we don't add to that anymore
<FRidh2> ugh
<disasm> fpletz globin: are we doing the gcc8? I see there's some more failures, but I'm also seeing a lot of those are related to gcc8 build timeout.
<andi-> hydra is suffering from reduced worker amount right now... The firefox release we started on monday evening is still not through :/
<FRidh2> ahh, that explains why it goes so slow
<andi-> It also preferred the gcc8 builds over the more important release builds.. That didn't help either.
<disasm> and on aarch64
<FRidh2> gcc8 looks good
<FRidh2> e2fsprogs transient failure has been resolved
<FRidh2> 9200 failures is roughly what we have on master and staging-next as well
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<{^_^}> #68029 (by globin, 2 days ago, open): [WIP] Default gcc to gcc9
<FRidh2> but gcc8 needs to go in first
<infinisil> Haha
<disasm> that's 20.03 targeted FRidh2
<infinisil> That's when we know we're too slow
<FRidh2> ah right
<disasm> FRidh2: so should I merge gcc8 PR?
<disasm> oh crap, there's conflicts again...
<FRidh2> disasm: I don't know. staging-next and staging are already building. But gcc8 in would be good
<FRidh2> yep
<FRidh2> staging would need to be merged into gcc8
<disasm> you mean master
<disasm> oh, that ones targeting staging, fpletz said it should go straight to master, not staging
<FRidh2> if it goes to master, staging-next would have to be rebuild. Either way, there is going to be another rebuild
<disasm> sphalerite: thoughts on above? ^^
<FRidh2> I suggest we merge staging-next into master now. Then merge staging into staging-next and gcc8 into staging-next and kill current staging builds (I can't do that though).
<disasm> I approve, lets do it
<disasm> so last staging-next cycle, right?
<FRidh2> staging-next goes in now, and then one more staging-next cycle containing current staging and gcc8
<disasm> who other than nixnut can kill the current builds?
<disasm> FRidh2: merge it!
<FRidh2> graham I know, and maybe vcunat
<samueldr> which jobset?
<samueldr> I'm not sure I can
<samueldr> though I can restart builds
<FRidh2> samueldr: https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/staging-small needs to be killed
<samueldr> now I know I can't
<samueldr> (I never had a reason to click on the option)
<FRidh2> :)
<FRidh2> hmm, there is a systemd 242 bump in the gcc8 branch as well
<FRidh2> oh, its in master already
<infinisil> maybe it would've made sense to first fix some gcc 8 issues in some earlier PRs
<infinisil> So the bump doesn't get too crazy
<FRidh2> infinisil: what issues?
<FRidh2> I agree it's a bit...close
<FRidh2> I was wrong, the 242 bump was in maste ralready
<infinisil> I haven't looked closely, but isn't the gcc 8 bump a whole lot of fixes to make packages build successfully with gcc 8?
<FRidh2> yes
<FRidh2> the hydra job looks OK
<FRidh2> same amount of failures as other branches
<infinisil> Yeah so I meants those patches could have been separate earlier PRs (where gcc 7 is still default)
<infinisil> s/meants/meant
<FRidh2> likely many of them
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<FRidh2> disasm: staging-next now has gcc8 and staging in it
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