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<ivan>
gah our option is called enableWideVine when even the marketing name is Widevine
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<ivan>
how long does release-19.03 get updates after 19.09 is out?
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<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: I am still using corebird 😥️
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<jtojnar>
what's up with unstable channel? Aborted: a 'x86_64-linux' with features {} is required to build '/nix/store/wrhdygwsn60zpqr1jq7lmcrk1saijjfy-unit-polkit.service.drv', but I am a 'x86_64-darwin'
<jtojnar>
does it go to Darwin builders for some reason?
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<Taneb>
gchristensen: it looks like some of the machines on Hydra are mislabelled? https://hydra.nixos.org/build/101496178 tries to run a x86_64-linux test on a Darwin machine
<hyperfekt>
ivan: from the 19.03 release notes: "End of support is planned for end of October 2019, handing over to 19.09."
<hyperfekt>
woops, wrong channel
<hyperfekt>
oh no it wasn't, i'm just terrible at multitasking
<marek>
is ofborg still broken for github commands?
<marek>
oh whoa, unstable 10 days old O_o
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<Profpatsch>
marek: There were times in the past when unstable was older than a month
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<gchristensen>
marek: what brokenness are you seeing?
<gchristensen>
Taneb: O.o ... fascinating
<gchristensen>
Taneb: thanks, fixed
<Taneb>
gchristensen: how many were mislabeled that way?
<Taneb>
Also, should the aborted builds be restarted?
<hyperfekt>
which makes me wonder... would an intensional store prevent restarting services if their (statically linked) binary hasn't actually changed despite different dependencies?
<gchristensen>
yeah
<arianvp>
emily: were you able to try my patch?
<arianvp>
intensional store when?
<emily>
arianvp: agh, sorry, nope. was busy trying to troubleshoot unrelated ipv6 issues
<gchristensen>
now that is some serious taco bell programming. and I feel about as good having written it as I would after eating taco bell.
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: yeah, it was supposed to be dead in Aug 2018 but for some reason it still works
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: I thought it was some kind of imperative shill but network and online accounts can probably work
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: I don't think it's dead, I believe people at endless and popOS use it and submit patches.
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: I've disabled all the bits that aren't right for nixos
<jtojnar>
the question is what do we do about things that can be configured both imperatively and declaratively (keyboard layout, language)
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: oh, cool
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: last time I checked, there was some fork of corebird but it was dead too
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: I think for people who have those declaratively they can skip those pages. We could have the password page included for mutable users, but it's all compile time config.
<jtojnar>
does it support dconf lockdown? we could have the dconf module lock the declaratively set keys
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<jtojnar>
weird, I cannot reproduce the st crah with joypixels
<jtojnar>
but yeah, `env XFT_DEBUG=1 pango-view --backend=xft --text="😂"` is broken
<jtojnar>
I think the twemoji-color-font might work since it ships backup glyphs
<gchristensen>
(still garbage collecting, heh)
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: ooh, that's a good use of dconf lockdown if we had options to make sure those things don't get managed imperatively
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: Probably, I have no reason to think it doesn't.
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<ivan>
does anyone else want to add themselves as a chromium maintainer and watch Google's release blog
<infinisil>
But I guess it's also a bit too broad, as package updates can be very nontrivial too
<infinisil>
Maybe something that says "This change will be interesting for a lot of people"
<infinisil>
"popular"?
<worldofpeace>
How about just adding it to the release milestone?
<infinisil>
These don't have to coincide with releases at all though
<worldofpeace>
And if it's something we for sure want as a feature make it blocking
<worldofpeace>
isn't nixpkgs development always for making a new release of NixOS?
<infinisil>
Yeah, but release milestones are for things that really should be in that release
<infinisil>
Lots of development doesn't have to be in specific releases
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<ivan>
"impactful"?
<infinisil>
Hm i like that. Another suggestion: "hot"
<ivan>
im-a-big-deal
<worldofpeace>
I don't think there's an way to label something as popular, it's pretty subjective.
* infinisil
votes for "impactful"
<ekleog>
“needs-rfc”
<emily>
popular is, like... literally the opposite of subjective
<ekleog>
(yes, I'm maybe exaggerating a bit, but in practice nontrivial changes usually end up deadlocked somehow anyway, so…)
<infinisil>
Some more (synonyms to impactful): "substantial" "noteworthy" "appreciable"
<worldofpeace>
emily: but only a select few can assign labels, popularity or being important is up to what they think
<infinisil>
ekleog: I think RFCs are only useful when it's something controversial
<qyliss>
worldofpeace: is that still true? I thought unpriveleged maintainer team could do it now
<worldofpeace>
qyliss: I'm not sure we've enacted that yet, IIRC github has new special beta permissions
<worldofpeace>
(subject to change api probably)
<ekleog>
infinisil: IMO they're also useful as a way of documenting why the things are the way they are, even when non-controversial, but I guess that depends on the specific PR :)