gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-borg to: https://www.patreon.com/ofborg https://monitoring.nix.ci/dashboard/db/ofborg?refresh=10s&orgId=1&from=now-1h&to=now "I get to skip reviewing the PHP code and just wait until it is rewritten in something sane, like POSIX shell. || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-borg
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<LnL> huh
<gchristensen> I think the guest is so much better b/c qemu is running with cache=none :)
<gchristensen> no, sorry
<gchristensen> cache=unsafe
<LnL> ah
<LnL> that makes more sense
<LnL> you can also set sync=false with zfs
<gchristensen> hmmm!
<gchristensen> but anyway, I think it is worth giving a shot so Rob is going to install NixOS on two of the machines (mac2, mac3)
<LnL> so if software runs an fsync on the volume zfs just runs return true :p
<samueldr> if apple ever releases new "pro" hardware, would a host presenting the multiple VMs be better than a beefier machine for NixOS usage?
<gchristensen> no idea :)
<gchristensen> tonight I'm going to make the systemd units and make my mac run ofborg again under this mechanism, tomorrow or friday Rob is going to get the macs for "maintenance"
<samueldr> >> The last time that Apple updated the Mac mini was on 16 October 2014
<gchristensen> sad, huh?
<samueldr> yes!
<LnL> ye
<samueldr> though it's scary seeing the new mac hardware to think what they could do with a newer mac mini
<LnL> at this point it's better to put laptops at a 20% open angle in a box and put those in your datacenter
<samueldr> imagine a zero-upgrade not-even-the-storage situation
<gchristensen> LnL: or a fake display adapter =)
<gchristensen> huge thank-yous to Clever for this suggestion
<samueldr> wondering *if* they boot without the display
<LnL> that doesn't sound ridiculous enough
<samueldr> maybe no need for the adapter
<samueldr> though the termals are still going to be abysmal
<samueldr> (venting from the keyboard IIRC)
<gchristensen> that is true. just throw an ice-pack on there.
<gchristensen> oh one thing is the SMC doesn't seem no spin up/down the fans on my apple laptop under Linux, and I had to manually spin up the fans
<cransom> they speculate mini is going to get an update this month (at least announced), but who knows if that happens.
<cransom> for the earlier generation mac minis, mozilla had hundreds of them. they didn't boot with out a display attached. they found cramming a resistor between 2 pins on the dvi output was enough and they ran fine headless.
<gchristensen> hah
<samueldr> the "speculation" has been going for years :)
<samueldr> I think it's more hope than speculation
<samueldr> (though there is an event this month)
<samueldr> (or expected to be, not entirely certain if it's been confirmed)
<cransom> i would absolutely refresh my imac with a mini if it had usb-c/thunderbolt outputs that i could run an external graphics card with (if the internal was still jokingly bad)
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<gchristensen> I ... don't plan on buying another mac :/