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<ryantrinkle> samueldr: hahaha i have finally gotten through enough stuff to understand what you were saying about the device tree thing
<ryantrinkle> i just had to find a patch to add my specific LCD panel to the dts for my board
<ryantrinkle> which doesn't even seem semantically correct
<ryantrinkle> given that the panel isn't part of the board
<samueldr> ryantrinkle: summing up my feelings
<samueldr> though, now that you have made it work
<samueldr> I think you're a prime suspect^W user that could figure out if dtbocfg works
<samueldr> well, I'm 99% sure it works
<samueldr> maybe more figuring it out :)
<samueldr> or confirming?
<samueldr> I mean, it's documented well enough
<samueldr> but, I think that it's not that device trees are wrong, but they've been twisted into end-users requiring to manipulate them to assemble stuff
<samueldr> because a device tree for a final end-user product like a phone makes sense
<samueldr> even a laptop does imo
<samueldr> (assuming a small range of compatible LCD screns)
<samueldr> screens*
<samueldr> chromeos devices, even x86_64, use device trees somehow in their tooling, which I think (don't quote me) makes up the ACPI tables in the end
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<DigitalKiwi> what's a good cord/controller thing I can use to get serial output. need it to work for rasperry pi but if it works for arduinos as well even better
<clever> the ftdi i linked is 3.3v, so its safe to use on a pi, and the jumpers deal with the pinout being different, and make it flexible enough to use on anything
<clever> you may also want some M/M jumpers for other boards that have sockets rather then headers, or for just holding on pins of a chip
<DigitalKiwi> i have dupont connectors and a crimping tool :D
<DigitalKiwi> and jst xh and jst sm...
<clever> DigitalKiwi: ah nice, so you could rig up a connector that perfect fits the ftdi&pi, with the right wires crossed
<DigitalKiwi> yup!
<DigitalKiwi> oh so caveat: there's a project i might be interested in that i think i might want a serial chip that uses an atmega16u2 (not an ftdi)
<clever> this fpga dev board is doing just that
<clever> so you can query the ADC's on the avr, since the fpga lacks analog inputs
<clever> the avr is also able to reflash the eeprom for the fpga bitstream
<clever> and act as a uart
<clever> DigitalKiwi: ive also got a https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/12765 which contains an atmega32u4
<{^_^}> ddiakopoulos/hiduino#17 (by DeDuckProject, 4 years ago, closed): Device not recognized when using Ardiuno Nano (clone)
<DigitalKiwi> sorry it took so long to find lol
<clever> DigitalKiwi: at one point, i had programmer the teensy to have 2 buttons, one was just space bar, the other was alt+left arrow
<clever> DigitalKiwi: i then put it into an old sparkfun box, with a pair of arcade buttons
<clever> and if i'm watching something in vlc, i can whack one button to pause, and the other to rewind
<clever> and with big fat buttons, i can whack them with a bowl of food, so i dont even have to put the food down
<DigitalKiwi> LOL
<DigitalKiwi> so kind of related but have you seen/used kdeconnect
<clever> nope
<DigitalKiwi> it has some really cool things
<clever> i did that teensy stuff back when i still used windows on a daily basis
<DigitalKiwi> i can use my phone as a mouse/keyboard for my computer!
<DigitalKiwi> and i think vice-virsa
<clever> ah, nice
<clever> let me check something///
<DigitalKiwi> a bunch of other stuff too, like shared notifcations
<clever> currently using pushbullet for notification sync
<clever> i also recently installed an android "wifi keyboard" https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.volosyukivan/
<clever> but havent tried it yet
<DigitalKiwi> yeah i've used pushbullet
<DigitalKiwi> a long time ago, i didn't even know/remember it worked on linux
<clever> i'm using the chrome pushbullet extension
<clever> ok, so i enabled wifi keyboard as the default, in android settings
<clever> now nothing pops up when i select an input box
<clever> but i can type on http://192.168.0.37:7777/
<clever> and it appears on the phone
<DigitalKiwi> clever: it has multimedia control too
<clever> DigitalKiwi: main problems i can see with the wifi keyboard after using it, you have to disable the onscreen keybord to use it, and it lacks authentication
<clever> DigitalKiwi: i have also messed with bluetooth a bit, and my laptop can emulate a bluetooth speaker, so the phone will play out of the laptop speakers
<DigitalKiwi> heh got the remote keyboard to work from my desktop to my revolution irc on my phone
<DigitalKiwi> oh cool I got my raspberry pi 3b+ to work finally
<DigitalKiwi> I wasn't making it install right...
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<samueldr> DigitalKiwi: this one also https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
<samueldr> it's "the one" they use in their tutorials and such
<samueldr> how bad would it be to introduce an impurity in the default mobile nixos image where the stage-1 would put a file in stage-2 when rehydrating the image at first boot?
<samueldr> this would be used to make universal stage-2 (system) images work better
<samueldr> I need to investigate the feasability
<samueldr> hmmm, or not that impure if a nixos-rebuild can happen entirely offline with that file
<clever> you could also make a stage2 image, that contains the closure of 4 different nixos configs
<clever> and just select which one you boot, based on which stage1 you use
<clever> and gc the rest later
<samueldr> "just select" lol
<samueldr> yeah, not a bad idea either
<clever> $ cat /proc/cmdline
<clever> BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,gpt1)//kernels/vkdgqv7wq8xj59xpjfrbipvqds61bnfv-linux-5.0.10-bzImage systemConfig=/nix/store/ypwcpcgmi0rclkdjnggrx5xzzm6hqrgl-nixos-system-system76-19.09pre177651.aeb464dfd37 init=/nix/store/ypwcpcgmi0rclkdjnggrx5xzzm6hqrgl-nixos-system-system76-19.09pre177651.aeb464dfd37/init panic=30 boot.panic_on_fail loglevel=4
<clever> the systemConfig= and init= control what you boot from stage2
<clever> so you could generate a stage2 with several of those
<samueldr> things this would help with are tools that communicate with hardware, like backlight control, or usb gadget mode
<samueldr> they might not work with closures exactly, they might need closure + configuration
<samueldr> you may have as many paths to the backlight device as there are devices!
<samueldr> and gadget mode for new devices seem to require device-specific bits a bunch
<clever> something else i found out recently, the usb-c on an rpi4, can work in both host or device mode
<clever> but it doesnt support the usb-c negotation for that, and the old otg_id pin isnt wired up either
<samueldr> oh no
<clever> so you have to force it in the pi with an overlay, and at the hardware level, by using adapters to convert it back to regular usb-a
<clever> and which usb-a you adapt to, must match the overlay
<clever> the default is device mode
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