zimbatm changed the topic of #nixcon to: 25-27 October 2018 - London - https://nixos2018.org , organisation is on https://trello.com/nixcon
<samueldr> (drive-by comment) watching one of the previous year's presentation, might be a good idea to have presenter repeat what was said from the room when they aren't miced-up (no idea what the question was)
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<sphalerite> zimbatm: ciil, WilliButz and I are also staying at the ibis as well as fpletz and globin
<zimbatm> +++ awesome
<sphalerite> clever: looking forward to meeting you, iirc you had a different conference last year :D
<zimbatm> samueldr: added to Trello
<clever> sphalerite: was at 2 conferences in 2017, bayhack and ase2017
* clever heads off to bed for a bit
<zimbatm> samueldr: goibhniu: flokli: do you have any mics? the venue wants to charge 240.-/day for this
<zimbatm> adisbladis: ^^
<samueldr> no equipment of any sort for that kind of thing, sorry
<zimbatm> mentioned you by mistake :)
<goibhniu> oh
<goibhniu> I do have two mics, one radio one
<goibhniu> I was going to bring the radio one as a backup anyway
<goibhniu> but, I wonder if they'll let us use their amplifier then at all
<zimbatm> I just got the lunch menu yesterday and need to fill it for tomorrow with some surprise extra charges :/
<zimbatm> yeah I wonder
<goibhniu> we could do it without amplification too
<zimbatm> I had to scratch the breakfast to be in the budget
<zimbatm> :/
<goibhniu> the only problem is that speakers probably won't use the microphones properly
<goibhniu> gah, sorry about all the last minute issues ... that's annoying
<zimbatm> never london again, it's so expensive
<goibhniu> yeah, rural ireland or france the next time \o/
<flokli> uff
<zimbatm> I also changed the program to only have one break in the afternoon, otherwise it will cost even more in coffee
<zimbatm> we'll have 3 speakers aligned for 1h30 total, then 30min break, then 1h30 of speakers
<zimbatm> it is going to be insane like that?
<zimbatm> the good thing is that we have some breathing room after so it doesn't need to be too strict on time
<goibhniu> that sounds fine to me
<zimbatm> AV: 160.-/day, PA: 200.-/day, Lectern: 75.-/day
<flokli> how much is the coffee per break?
<goibhniu> what's a lectern?
<goibhniu> the table?
<zimbatm> 2.- * 120 ppl
<zimbatm> yeah I guess
<goibhniu> wow ... I thought this was a cool community building place :/
<zimbatm> 2.5 with biscuits :)
<goibhniu> amazing
<zimbatm> and the vegetarian menu is more expensive and doesn't have any proteins
<goibhniu> wat
<goibhniu> we could buy some kettles, and aeropresses
<zimbatm> like usually the meat is replaced with tofu or beans
<goibhniu> usually vegetarian options are pretty good
<zimbatm> if we bring our own coffee machine we have to pay 150.-/day
<goibhniu> lol
<flokli> zimbatm: so each coffee break is 2€ per person? (2.5€ with biscuit)?
<zimbatm> yeah
<flokli> lol
<flokli> is there a coffee place nearby which we could probably just invade? what about water?
<zimbatm> there is free jugs of water at least
<zimbatm> there is a nandos just next door for the meat eaters
<goibhniu> I suppose it's not terrible
<goibhniu> the pics look nice in the PDF :D
<zimbatm> 2.- is cheap for coffee in London
<flokli> we don't know yet if the coffee is good
<flokli> and if it's one nixcon mug, or just a small espresso cup
<goibhniu> yeah, it all depends on what the quality is like ... it might be really good
* samueldr remembers exchange rate
<flokli> in general, we should still have some breaks in between
<flokli> if there's no coffee… hmm not a disaster, but still better than no break at all I think
* goibhniu wonders what the meal option is ... not having protein isn't a big deal IMO
<zimbatm> I will call tomorrow to see if we can arrange something with the meal
<zimbatm> in the mean time I have shuffled the program around a bit
<flokli> I still didn't call the restaurant, or received back from them or my contact… crap
<flokli> can somebody take over that task?
<zimbatm> I'll call some pubs tomorrow
<zimbatm> is a 45min break too long?
<zimbatm> 1x 45min break instead of 2x 30min
<zimbatm> that avoids the overhead of people moving around
<goibhniu> how long will people be sitting down for at a time then?
<goibhniu> oh, the prices in the menu don't include VAT either
<zimbatm> 2x 1h30 in the afternoon with a 45min break in between
<goibhniu> it seems a bit long to me ... then again, people have stuff to talk about
<flokli> I'd also prefer 2 breaks
<zimbatm> no coffee then
<goibhniu> yeah, a break without coffee is fine
<goibhniu> (IMO)
* goibhniu wonders if it will really work without amplification
<goibhniu> maybe they projector is included in that too (AV?)
<zimbatm> I assumed that there would be at least one microphone with the AV
<zimbatm> if not I will take the PA as well
<zimbatm> I'll talk to her tomorrow
<goibhniu> it would be good to know exactly what's included alright
<goibhniu> other Nixers probably have audio gear too
<zimbatm> last year the sessions were 1h30 as well
<zimbatm> was it too long?
<goibhniu> it seemed good to me, but I wasn't really in the audience
<zimbatm> I might have to make an executive decision tomorrow depending if we can leave the room at 18h30-19h00 or not
<zimbatm> keep you posted :)
<goibhniu> good luck!
<zimbatm> ty!
<flokli> zimbatm: I skipped some talks, because it was too much, IMHO, and watched these later
<flokli> zimbatm: I updated the trello card about the social event, and bounced the Wetherspoons email to your address as well
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