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<copumpkin> seems to be building just fine on 10.11 and 10.12
<copumpkin> not sure what's wrong with the hydra builder
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<szicari> Good morning! I see Nix 2.x is out. I'm wondering if this fixes the issue where nix-channel —update on macOS didn't pull in the latest changes. Does anyone have insight into that?
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<szicari> I ran the command but noticed it didn't seem to download the channel contents. Maybe it's because it saw the contents were up to date already? I *just* re-installed Nix on my machine.
<LnL> with a daemon install you need to run sudo -i nix-channel --update
<copumpkin> anyway, I think it's mostly kinda sorta working
<copumpkin> gonna get the bootstrap tools working sensibly with it, then make a proper PR against staging
<copumpkin> (and make sure hydra can actually build it)
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<copumpkin> LnL: any chance you can run your hydra against that commit? public hydra is being very difficult
<copumpkin> failing in a bunch of different ways for seemingly random reasons
<LnL> sorry, kidnda afk today :p
<LnL> I wonder why they always discourage using CF so heavily
<copumpkin> no problem
<copumpkin> I'm doing a bunch of local builds so am reasonably confident it works
<LnL> re: hydra, sure but I have to check if graham's builder is online first
<LnL> it can't handle a stdenv rebuild + the ofborg vm very well
<copumpkin> ah ok
<copumpkin> I'll just continue using my mbp :)
<LnL> it's fine, I can disable it for a while if one is still up
<copumpkin> anyway, my next steps are: 1) get this thing merged 2) add in my LTO stuff to copumpkin-wip branch on top of this 3) get hydra to build new bootstrap tools 4) upload those bootstrap tools to s3 5) make another commit using the new tools
<copumpkin> mostly in an attempt to be a bit more disciplined in making new bootstrap tools so other folks can verify them a bit more easily
<copumpkin> since otherwise y'all just need to trust me :)
<copumpkin> then after 5, I'd probably try to update the SDK and various other opensource releases that are enabled by the new CF
<LnL> or me :)
<copumpkin> oh you can push to the S3 bucket too?
<LnL> yeah, I asked for it while I was in london because I thought I might have needed it for 10.14 support
<copumpkin> nice
<copumpkin> that's good, improved bus factor :)
<LnL> didn't want to get stuck if I needed that and you where a bit off the radar for a while :)
<copumpkin> yeah
<copumpkin> still not on the radar as much as I'd like
<copumpkin> it's really grinding my gears that I have three mac minis sitting offline
<copumpkin> that I bought specifically for us
<copumpkin> hoping this coming weekend I can do something useful with them
<LnL> but didn't end up needing it except for a full stdenv rebuild, so decided not to update it yet
<copumpkin> cool
<LnL> ooh, shiny
<copumpkin> yeah I bought them months ago
<copumpkin> then upgraded them to SSDs and more RAM
<copumpkin> and then they've been powered off on a shelf since then
<LnL> we don't really need capacity at the moment, but you could configure them to run stuff for ofborg while they are idle
<copumpkin> yeah
<LnL> alltho I assume you bought them for a reason
<copumpkin> well
<copumpkin> I bought them for hydra/ofborg :)
<LnL> this recipe was great!
<LnL> if you've never made something with shiromiso, marinaded cod is very nice
<copumpkin> :O
<copumpkin> where is recipe?
<LnL> don't remember where I found it, but something like this https://www.justonecookbook.com/black-cod-with-miso
<copumpkin> nice, thanks!
<LnL> you also like cooking stuff?
<copumpkin> yup, occasionally :)
<LnL> oh btw, are you going to nixcon this year?
<copumpkin> probably not, too much travel around that period already scheduled
<copumpkin> :(
<LnL> ah :/
<copumpkin> going to China in a couple of weeks and getting back in october
<copumpkin> then have to go to another conference in nov
<LnL> yeah, that sounds like it would be a bit much then even if it's possible to fit in
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<copumpkin> niksnut: still seeing some really weird stuff on hydra, for example see here: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/81037251
<copumpkin> says clang build propagated from clang
<copumpkin> except clang has now passed since I restarted it
<copumpkin> but the success on clang also says it happened in 0s
<copumpkin> it sounds like t2m might be partially hosed
<copumpkin> I've seen a few of those bus errors
<copumpkin> on different builds
<copumpkin> is there a way to figure out when this happened? https://hydra.nixos.org/build/81036642/nixlog/7
<LnL> bus error, never seen that before
<LnL> copumpkin: anything specific you want me to build?
<copumpkin> nope, all the specific things I tried to build locally
<copumpkin> mostly just looking to fill out common things I haven't thought of
<copumpkin> I've done go, rust, packages in each of those, python, ruby, git, mysql, postgresql, and other major packages like that
<copumpkin> haven't tried any haskell stuff yet because I was too lazy to wait for GHC to bootstrap :)
<LnL> ok, I'll just queue up a bunch of stuff like johnw's jobset :p
<copumpkin> thanks :)
<LnL> for updating the sdk we should be able to use a bunch of stuff that Matthew made a while back right?
<copumpkin> hope so!
<LnL> can't wait to purify some of my packages :D
<copumpkin> was CF the main cause of that?
<LnL> yeah, it needs a newer version of one of the frameworks
<copumpkin> I haven't yet tested if it improves the cf-private things
<copumpkin> ah ok
<LnL> same with kitty IIRC
<LnL> and we might be able to update qt5 without me writing objective-c patches xD
<copumpkin> do you know by any chance what cf-private provided that cf didn't? the comments just say private headers with more information
<copumpkin> hope so!
<LnL> no clue
<LnL> I try to delete it everywhere I see :D
<copumpkin> hah ok
<copumpkin> rule 1 of workarounds, document in great detail what necessitated the workaround and when it can be removed
<copumpkin> which of course nobody ever does :)
<LnL> but that might just be hiding it, since it gets propagated by some frameworks IIRC
<LnL> heh, true
<LnL> not sure why, but I've started to become a little obsessed with writing long commit messages recently
<LnL> maybe that will help some pour soul in the future :p
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