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<Sandro[m]> nix 2.3 or 2.4?
<Sandro[m]> 2.4 has none for fish https://github.com/NixOS/nix/tree/master/misc
<_scott> Gabriel Volpe: check out `fish_update_completions -h` — by running `fish_update_completions` i have completions for a whole bunch of nix* commands in `~/.local/share/fish/generated_completions` which get loaded automatically
<GabrielVolpe[m]> Oh sweet! That worked, thanks scott
<GabrielVolpe[m]> I wonder if this could be added to the installation of `fish` but OTOH it would need to run every time I run `home-manager switch`, I can probably make it part of my script, thanks for the pointer
<_scott> I never thought about this before, but we might be able to do this during certain *package builds* by running a `fish_update_completions` step limited to only the manpages in the package and installing the result in the standard Fish completions dir...
<_scott> But yeah, you could also make it happen on `home-manager switch` or a periodic systemd timer, lots of options
<_scott> I guess my previous wacky idea doesn't work very well because it makes the build dependent on Fish, so it would have to be optional, and then it's not really worth it
<GabrielVolpe[m]> Right, I already have a custom script that runs `home-manager switch` with different configurations, depending on the connected monitors (for `polybar`), it could probably be there
<GabrielVolpe[m]> * Right, I already have a custom script that runs `home-manager switch` with different configurations, depending on the connected monitors (for `polybar`), it could probably live there
<_scott> I think you can make `home-manager switch` itself do it by using [home.activation](https://rycee.gitlab.io/home-manager/options.html#opt-home.activation)
<_scott> Someone could probably submit a module that does this, and it could be smart enough to only read the manpages home-manager is installing
<GabrielVolpe[m]> That would be great, indeed :)
<rycee> I don't know anything about this but perhaps update the completions in the final profile?
<_scott> yeah that seems like it would make sense
<GabrielVolpe[m]> <rycee "For example using `home.extraPro"> can't seem to find it in the options, is the site outdated? https://rycee.gitlab.io/home-manager/options.html
<rycee> Gabriel Volpe: No, the option has been there for a long time, it's just marked with `internal = true`, which excludes it from the manual.
<GabrielVolpe[m]> aha, got it, thanks
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<ihsan_> hi
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<ihsanturk> anybody here?
<rycee> ihsanturk: Yes.
<ihsanturk> This is my first time usage of irc on cli, that's feels good :D.
<ihsanturk> that*
<rycee> 👍️
<ihsanturk> I just couldn't manage my home configuration with flakes. I am getting `error: profile '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/ihsan/profile' is incompatible with 'nix-env'; please use 'nix profile' instead`. Do you guys have any idea?
<rycee> ihsanturk: Dunno about the flakes part but I think HM doesn't support Nix 2.4 yet.
<ihsanturk> I see
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<Sandro[m]> <ihsanturk "I just couldn't manage my home c"> I have both nix versions installed. I just use nix 2.3 for nix-env
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<hpfr> rycee: is there a reason for making the history visibility for this room members-only since they've joined? it not being public ("anyone") is currently making the room not visible in the nix space https://gist.github.com/t3chguy/fdf541446d992d1fc96b8089b342fe7b#why-cant-i-see-some-rooms-in-a-space
<hexa[m]> ah yeah, that's true. now being able to peek at the history also prevents people from seeing the name over federation
<hpfr> nevermind, joining the subspace you mentioned seemed to work?
<hpfr> doesn't seem like that should be necessary though
<hpfr> well, maybe
<sumner[m]> <hpfr "nevermind, joining the subspace "> Currently there is no way to recurse into the subspace. But now you joined, and since you are in this room, you can see it. If you were not a member of this room, you wouldn't be able to see it evan if you were a member of the subspace.
<sumner[m]> * Currently there is no way to recurse into an unjoined subspace. But now you joined, and since you are in this room, you can see it. If you were not a member of this room, you wouldn't be able to see it evan if you were a member of the subspace.
<hexa[m]> * ah yeah, that's true. not being able to peek at the history also prevents people from seeing the name over federation
<sumner[m]> * Currently there is no way to recurse into an unjoined subspace from the parent space. But now you joined, and since you are in this room, you can see it. If you were not a member of this room, you wouldn't be able to see it evan if you were a member of the subspace.
<hpfr> I wouldn't be able to see this room if I wasn't a member of it? how will new people join then?
<hpfr> that doesn't seem right
<sumner[m]> <hpfr "I wouldn't be able to see this r"> That is how it works unless rycee changes to history viewable by anyone.
<hpfr> can new people join if they have the room alias? #home-manager:rycee.net
<hpfr> <sumner[m] "That is how it works unless ryce"> or until this apparently https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/3173
<sumner[m]> <hpfr "can new people join if they have"> Yes.
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<hpfr> oh well things seem alright for the moment then, thanks
<rycee> hpfr: No, no particular reason. I guess it was the default when the channel was created.
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<rycee> Seems the option to make it public is disabled. Perhaps the room needs to be upgraded?
<sumner[m]> Upgrading rooms is quite an awful user experience IMO. It basically creates a new room, and I'm not sure how the IRC bridge handles it.
<hexa[m]> bridging via portal rooms was a bad idea anyway, plumbing is the way to go
<rycee> `m.room.history_visibility` seems to be in room version 1 so should be supported.
<rycee> Can try changing it through the devtools…
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<Sandro[m]> you should probably upgrade that
<Sandro[m]> I thought there was an option for that but I can't find it right now
<rycee> I think it's because I'm a mod and not an admin.
<Sandro[m]> I looked at a room where I am admin which is version 5 but I can't upgrade it to 6 anywhere
<hexa[m]> there is `/upgraderoom`
<hexa[m]> rycee: if you don't have admin, probably because this is a room created by the appservice-irc, then we should give up on this room entirely, because without admin managing it is meh
<hexa[m]> robotnix had the same issue
<hexa[m]> I'm not sure if the matrix folks hand out admin to these rooms manually
<hexa[m]> can't unbridge these channels either, so it would be stuck with the freenode end until whenever
<Sandro[m]> I just did this with a test room and it basically replaces the room and then changes the (most?) settings back and re-invites all people
<Sandro[m]> so far the history seems to be lost
<Sandro[m]> but you get a nice banner that the conversation continues in the old room
<sumner[m]> <Sandro[m] "so far the history seems to be l"> History is still preserved here, but scrollback is lost past the upgrade.
<hexa[m]> if you could upgrade the room, best case would be a tombstone redirect to something where you have admin
<Sandro[m]> * but you get a nice banner that the history continues in the old room
<sumner[m]> It may be safer to just create an entirely new room with rycee as admin. Then, we can manually create the tombstone here pointing at the new room. We can also set up the bridge to IRC on the matrix side of thigs.
<Dandellion> since this room is room version 1 the default permissions allow you to do a room upgrade without admin
<Dandellion> by crafting a special room upgrade request you will be able to give yourself admin in the new room, and change the freenode bride's permisssion to 50.
<Dandellion> the bridge bot should follow the room upgrade
<rycee> Dandellion: Neat, can have a look at that when it's time to switch the IRC bridge.
<rosariopulella[m> Don't know if its okay to call out my PR, but I think its ready https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager/pull/2035
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<rosariopulella[m> Can anyone help me? I want to put my firefox addons derivations in my hm config repo and I need `stdenv` for my derivations and I don't know how to get it in my hm config.
<__monty__> rosariopulella[m pkgs.stdenv?
<rosariopulella[m> O yep, thanks @__mo
<rosariopulella[m> * O yep, thanks @monty
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