<numkem>
clever: I lowered my memory from 3000 to 2933 and it’s happily building now… I saw some other weird things like in nix-top the outputs wouldn’t show
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<numkem>
clever: I can’t explain it more than.
<numkem>
clever: the drive is pretty much empty… I can’t fathom where the no space left came from
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<clever>
numkem: thats why it helps to `watch -d df -h`, and see where its going
<matthewcroughan>
so staging is technically a better choice than master?
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<matthewcroughan>
in terms of refinement, master is the least refined?
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<qyliss>
staging is even less built, and even less tested
<matthewcroughan>
ah okay, that is confusing to me
<qyliss>
staging is an optional step *before* master
<qyliss>
that is used for big changes
<qyliss>
it has very low priority on Hydra, and the only people who will notice breakage on staging are people working on staging for their own big changes
<MysteriousSilver>
Hi! My hosts files is read-only even as a root user, am i not supposed to edit it directly?
<MysteriousSilver>
(Nixos)
<lukegb>
MysteriousSilver: yup, there's the networking.hosts option
<MysteriousSilver>
thanks
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<hrnz>
Having all of your system configuration in a central place is one of the main reasons to use nixos :-)
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<MysteriousSilver>
My hosts file will be some thousands of lines, I do not want to litter my configuration.nix. Is there a way to source it from an outside file?
<MysteriousSilver>
lukegb: how do i do that, i moved networking.hosts to a separate file and added it to imports, `nixos-rebuild` says unexpected '=', expecting $end
<evils>
i have a derivation that results in an output path that contains a /bin containing an executable; installing that derivation in my user environment makes the executable available; but i can't make it available in a test VM; any idea what this could be?
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<aleph->
Hmm, for those using home assistant, anyone have an example of overriding the package to include custom components?
<eyJhb>
onny[m]: You don't want to use nginx for it?
<eyJhb>
You can just.. Disable nginx? :)
<eyJhb>
`services.nginx.enable = mkForce false` I think.
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<onny[m]>
<eyJhb "onny: You don't want to use ngin"> yes, I'll have several web services, all using different web severs. so I want to disable nginx inside the dokuwiki module.
<onny[m]>
<eyJhb "onny: I am unsure if you mean a "> there's this services.dokuwiki option. if I use and enable this, it will automatically start an nginx web server. Unfortunately there's no option for this module to disable it :(
<eyJhb>
But what would your ideal scenario be? How do you want to serve dokuwiki instead? :) And do you use nginx for anything else?
<onny[m]>
I want to configure Caddy as a web server :)
<onny[m]>
Since Nextcloud, Wordpress, Dokuwiki modules all using different web servers, I'll have to disable them (Nginx, Apache, httpd) and use Caddy for this
<eyJhb>
onny[m]: Don't they all use nginx? Also, you can disable it, but you won't get all the fun things the module does. :/ (I can't see a easy way for this at least).
<eyJhb>
Most web stuff relies on nginx in NixOS, and will use that. So it will set multiple vhosts up for you :)
<thblt>
I don't know how long after sending a PR it's polite to ask on IRC for someone to merge it, but if about one day is enough, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/121246 is an obvious fix that just needs a click on the merge button :)
<eyJhb>
I think there is no determined period, but I highly suuggest that you ping in #nixos-dev, and ask there. #nixos is mostly used as a support channel for using NixOS, not as much developing. But, I might be wrong :)
<eyJhb>
Also, nixpkgs receive a lot of PRs, so there is a huge backlog for the maintainers/commiters :)
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<thblt>
eyJhb: thanks for the tip!
<bitonic>
eyJhb: thanks, i'll do the same for my pr :P
<thblt>
Out of curiosity, it seems that even trivial package version bump PRs get merged manually, is there a reason for that? IIUC a bot generates some of them, but humans do the merge?
<eyJhb>
thblt: I think that in general, there are no "trivial" bumps... :p Because everything can introduce a new depency into the system. ALSO!
<eyJhb>
The bots you see that automatically test all the PRs are very new. And I think there is work on a concept that will allow for more automation, which would be nice like you say.
<thblt>
Ha, nice to hear.
<thblt>
eyJhb: Of course, but there are automated integration tests that get run.
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<eyJhb>
Atm. we have bots that autobump versions, automatically check if it builds and then there are the people who merge this :p But there are a lot of issues with... stuff getting merged without allowing the maintainer to check if it works as intended etc.
<eyJhb>
So, it is a huge mess. But... We are still the most up-to-date, repo out there I think
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<eyJhb>
(and biggest, but we ary lying a little on the numbers, as we include python packages, etc.)
<thblt>
I'm just impressed by the number of pending PRs that are just Package x.y.z -> x.y.(z + 1). My instinct would be to bot-merge and fix eventual issues when they hit unstable, but maybe it's not a good instinct :)
<hyper_ch_>
I'm in the same boat with thblt: minior package updates like x.y.z -> x.y.(z+1) could be auto merged... especially if one of the listed maintainers for the package makes the pr
<hyper_ch_>
if (submitter is maintainer of package A version x.y.z) and (maintainer makes pr vor package A version x.y.z -> x.y.(z + [1+])), then auto-accept pr
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<thblt>
There doesn't seem to be an abstract interface for vhosts, that would be cool. But each webserver module has its own implementation, so you can't just drop a server on your vhosts.
<colemickens>
Makes me think of Kubernetes trying, now a v2, at abstracting over http(,s,2)-like load balancers.
<colemickens>
or home-manager and it's email module, which is super cool, but a bit daunting to tie into if you just want to add some other email thing in quickly.
<colemickens>
not a bad thing, it sounds cool, and nix would lend itself to progressively increasing the abstraction as you needed to
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<eyJhb>
I thing that would make NixOS overtake the world, would be having a general "systemd" which did not have to tie together to systemd.
<Frosku>
init abstraction?
<Frosku>
Yeah I agree, systemd kept me off of nixos for a long time.
<eyJhb>
I specify `nixpkgs.config.allowUnfree = true;` in a file I am building, for a digitalocean image. But I still get the "YOU HAVE NOT ALLOWED UNFREE" stuff... - https://termbin.com/36lla am I doing something wrong?
<evils>
lol, slightly disturbing how long a struggled trying to semi-manually build and install that python i2c-tools thing, vs how simple the working thing ended up being
<evils>
anyone now how i can make python.pkgs.i2c-tools that accepts pkgs.i2c-tools as an input without getting infinite recursion?
<romildo>
evils, I have followed the doc, but the release notes was not built. Just the main manual
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<Woutifier>
hmm, switching to pkgs.linuxPackages from pkgs.linuxPackages_latest fixes my asm/kmap_types.h nvidia driver problem. Probably have to wait for the newer nvidia driver.
<evils>
romildo: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i haven't read the docs
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<romildo>
qyliss, that worked. Thanks.
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<evils>
romildo: seems to me that's equivalent to what's in the online docs, i get result/share/doc/nixos/release-notes.html
<clever>
flip[m]: this tells nix that your cpu can run binaries from those arches, and to just allow it
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<flip[m]>
I will try that
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<Kinnison>
Is there anything I can do to encourage review/merge of my PR? I made the PR 3 days ago, it has seen no activity since an initial query/review back then, and there's already 5 full pages of PRs come in after it. I'm not confident to necessarily review any other PRs since I'm pretty new to nix. My PR is #121072 and I'm not sure if I need to make any changes to make it acceptable :(
<eyJhb>
Kinnison: Seems like there are some stuff, that is still up for discussion.
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<Kinnison>
eyJhb: I suppose I need to wait for jonringer or SuperSandro2000 to come and look again then.
<Kinnison>
Is there anything I can do to help in general with PRs given I'm not sure I'm safe to say anything necessarily works any better than ofborg can?
<Kinnison>
thblt: I can give that a go I suppose - I'm not going to be able to know if things work properly unless they're things I've seen before but let's see if I can at least help a bit :D
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<thblt>
Kinnison: IIUC what they need is people to build the package from the PR branch and see if it runs/works reasonably.
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<Kinnison>
is there an easy way to get a PR into my local git checkout?
<supersandro2000>
Kinnison: I am missing some IRC log. What do we need to wait on?
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<Kinnison>
supersandro2000: I don't think we need to wait on anything, but there's an open review comment from you :D
<cub3s_>
When I'm building Haskell projects with "cabal build" on the nix-shell, why doesn't anything extra get downloaded from the Nix binary cache if I change compiler build options?
<cub3s_>
I mean, am I not downloading pre-built libraries after all? If compiler options change, I ought to be downloading a different binary right?
<thblt>
Kinnison: git-hub (the cli tool) may have something, but checkout or cherrypick could be enough. You'll just need to add the remote, it can be automated.
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<supersandro2000>
Kinnison: Sorry. I don't know if we can do that or not.
<supersandro2000>
Never used vscode in nixpkgs
<supersandro2000>
Kinnison: there is a botton on the right of the PR labeled "open with"
<Kinnison>
supersandro2000: well it's working for me :D But I appreciate your point. jonringer's fingerprints are all over the vscode stuff in there, and so I suppose it's about waiting on him :D
<supersandro2000>
and there you can find ``gh pr checkout 121072``
<supersandro2000>
and with refined github the 3 commands for git
* Kinnison
supposes he'd best set up the gh tool on his laptop then :D
<flip[m]>
Out of curiosity, if i wanted to cross compile to some other arch (say x86) from aarch64 how would i go about doing that? Why didn't the pkgsCross method work? Is it only supported for x86 builders?
<clever>
native arm32 building is currently broken
<clever>
flip[m]: pkgsCross should just work, what error where you getting?
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<clever>
it is less tested outside of x86 though, arm->vpu for example fails, but x86->vpu works fine
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<superherointj>
From nixpkgs, I can build 'icu63' package and output is available at 'result/lib/libicudata.so' just fine. I've created a new derivation in this nixpkgs repo, that I want to use this library by adding 'icu63' to buildInputs, propagatedBuildInputs, nativeBuildInputs, propagatedNativeBuildInputs. I would like to certify that 'icu63' is available/in path in this other derivation I'm building. Because it seems my derivation cannot find it despite
<superherointj>
being listed on that 4 fields. So, I'd like to introspect to check if it is actually available there. How should I do it?
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<superherointj>
I've notice that If I build two library derivations using `nix build .#libname1` and `nix build .#libname2`, one will erase/overwrite the other from folder `result/lib/`.
<superherointj>
*noticed
<clever>
superherointj: the symlink called result is being updated, you can see it with `ls -l result`
<superherointj>
Thanks.
<clever>
superherointj: if you add `-o foo`, you will instead create a symlink called foo
<superherointj>
I'm trying to understand why the icu63 library is not available to my application (another derivation) despite beind listed as a dependency in buildInputs, etc. Is there some good way to introspect/observe this?
<clever>
superherointj: check what ldd says
* clever
heads off to bed
<superherointj>
I'm unable to finish building the application, the library is required when building.
<superherointj>
I suppose `ldd` would be useful when the application was built already. But good suggestion anyway.
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<superherointj>
I've also noticed when building 'icu63' that it generates two folders 'result' and 'result-dev'. What I want is located at 'result' only.
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<flip[m]>
clever: The error i got with the previous config (empty shell using pkgsCross): https://pastebin.com/VYc96dq1
* superherointj
will be back later.
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to gnome-40 « gnomeExtensions.hot-edge: init at 4 »: https://git.io/J3CmY
<jayk43>
the digital clock panel widget on unstable kde wayland doesn't display at all
<Henson>
I'm about to submit my first PR for a new NixOS module, and one of the steps in the checklist is "Determined the impact on package closure size (by running `nix path-info -S` before and after)". Is this to be done on the derivation file for the package, or for my entire system when the module is enabled?
<gchristensen>
I think you can ignore it for modules
<Henson>
gchristensen: but this module also uses a new package which is also included in the PR
<gchristensen>
I don't know, my feeling is that checkbox confuses most people
<Kinnison>
gchristensen: While going through PRs to try and decide if I could do any useful review, I noticed that a huge number of them seem to have pending darwin checks
<gchristensen>
yeah
<Kinnison>
gchristensen: Also what's the policy on PRs whose checks all passed and which have an approval ?
<Henson>
gchristensen: if it's a PHP web service and doesn't have any binary files, but I've checked for the correct operation of the web service, should I check off the "Tested execution of all binary files" box?
<gchristensen>
we recently bought a new mac, though :)
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<gchristensen>
Henson: sure :)
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<gchristensen>
rip, matrix alter-ego
<Henson>
gchristensen: how about for boxes that are not-applicable, like "Tested compilation of all pkgs that depend on this change".
<gchristensen>
Henson: I'd check 'em
<Henson>
gchristensen: ok
<gchristensen>
Kinnison: do you have some examples? usually they're probably good to merge, but perhaps there is a reason the yweren't
<gchristensen>
it is likely just giving a of time for the maintainers to look
<Kinnison>
nod.
<Kinnison>
I'm trying to find ways to be useful, but honestly a lot of this stuff is still quite intimidating to me
<gchristensen>
:) dive in, test a PR, check the meta fields and license ... leave some feedback. it all helps!
<Kinnison>
I was looking at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/121268 as a plausible one, since I can do the "test on 'other linux distribution'" as I have a debian box here with nix installed
<{^_^}>
[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »: https://git.io/J3Czl
<{^_^}>
#121268 (by FlorianFranzen, 1 day ago, open): bacon: init at 1.1.5
<Kinnison>
But amusingly that one doesn't have anyone requested to review it
<gchristensen>
it is because they are the maintainer of the package they submitted :)
<Kinnison>
gchristensen: heh I imagine that happens a lot then for brand new packages?
<gchristensen>
it'd be good to have a "New package review team"
<gchristensen>
yeah
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<thblt>
Thinking out loud, but could it be useful to have some automated tooling for testing package PRs?
<gchristensen>
there is some, loads, ofborg does a lot, nixpkgs-review does a lot, nixpkgs-hammering does a lot
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<thblt>
Eg `nix-test-pr 23421` to instantiate nixpkgs locally with the PR applied, buitd the package and run if possible?
<thblt>
looking at nixpkgs-review
<thblt>
Ha, looks *a lot* like what I was just describing :)
<gchristensen>
and ofborg does a lot of it, also
<gchristensen>
but not all of it
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<thblt>
But ofborg is an hydra service, right? My question was about making it easier for casual users to help reviewing PRs
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<gchristensen>
ofborg is not a hydra service, ofborg runs on PRs
<thblt>
OK. I got confused because it's listed as hosted on hydra.nixos.org
<Henson>
gchristensen: if I have comments regarding the various checkboxes, should I add the comments to the checkbox lines, or make a comment section apart for the checkboxes?
<gchristensen>
separate, people will probably just skim the boxes
<Henson>
gchristensen: ok, that's what I figured
<Kinnison>
gchristensen: well I managed to confirm that the bacon PR builds and runs on "other Linux distribution", though with no assigned reviewer what will the fate of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/121268 be decided on? I can easily imagine most reviewers will fail to see wood for trees in this immense PR pile.
<{^_^}>
#121268 (by FlorianFranzen, 1 day ago, open): bacon: init at 1.1.5
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<yaymukund>
dang, I installed steam via flatpak instead of `programs.steam.enable = true` and got the same crash. still pretty cool I could do all that in 5m though ^^
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<Kinnison>
gchristensen: I guess. 20+k done this year, but an increase in total open at any one time of around 200 suggest a pretty low pain level.
<gchristensen>
I'm not sure I understand, can you rephrase?
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<Kinnison>
I was looking at the PRs open vs. PRs closed numbers
<Henson>
since I've never done a PR before, say somebody made a comment that requires changing one of the commits and splitting it into two (like adding a new maintainer to the maintainer list). What's the standard way of editing commits in a PR?
<Frosku>
Add a new commit to the branch you're trying to merge in
<Kinnison>
Henson: the easiest method depends on how you created the PR branch
<{^_^}>
[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »: https://git.io/J3CDn
<Kinnison>
Henson: A trivial way could be to uncommit your change, and then make the two smaller commits
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<Kinnison>
Henson: then you can force-push your PR branch
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<Henson>
Kinnison: I just branched it off of the master branch (as of this morning). There are two commits, and the first commit should be split into two.
<Kinnison>
Henson: aah - how familiar are you with `git rebase` ? I'm going to guess "not very"
<Henson>
Kinnison: well, I had to use it. Initially I created my branch off of my version of NixOS, then I rebased it this morning onto master and tested it there, too.
<Kinnison>
Henson: basically you can use rebase to edit the commits too - if you pass -i then it'll give you a list of commits it wants to rebase with
<Henson>
Kinnison: but yes "not very" familiar as of this morning. "slightly familiar" now.
<Kinnison>
Henson: you can change the command to, for example, edit, and then the rebase will pause at that point, allow you to make edits (e.g. uncommit, split, make two commits) and then you can rebase --continue
<Kinnison>
Henson: if during your rebasing you get very confused/lost/broken, just `git rebase --abort` and try again
<Henson>
Kinnison: if I force-push or do a rebase, then that will change the HEAD commit of my branch. How will that affect the PR I've made? Does the PR work based on the branch name, or based on the hash of the commit that it was opened on?
<Kinnison>
the PR is based on the branch, so you can force-push the branch and the PR will update
<Kinnison>
Henson: remember the commit message rules when preparing your split out commits
<Henson>
Kinnison: and will that mess up any of the comments? I'm assuming that ofborg will rerun all the tests?
<Kinnison>
Henson: the comments should hold fine, and ofborg will rerun tests yes afaict
<Kinnison>
Henson: hopefully since the derivations themselves won't have changed, that shouldn't be a problem
<Henson>
evils: thank for the comments! I'm glad you caught that last one, very sharp!
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<evils>
Henson: not to give the false impression i looked too closely at your PR, "user don't" in a comment, you got it right on the same line above it xD
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<Henson>
Kinnison: ok, thanks for the tips. I'll give it a shot and see what happens!
<Henson>
Kinnison: so would one possibility be to delete the remote branch, create it again on my local repository, and then push it again? Or would that mess things up? Would it be better to force-push instead?
<evils>
i think deleting the branch may close the PR; i always force-push
<qyliss>
deleting a branch that is the head of an open PR will close it
<raboof>
nixos modules seem to (perhaps next to other things) turn a set of 'options' into actual configuration files, and registering the configured program as a systemd service.
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<raboof>
wouldn't it be neat to have the "options to configuration" part on the nixpkgs side rather than the nixos side, so we can also leverage it in shells and docker images, for example?
<aleph->
Hmm how do I access a package from a package set? Wondering if I can do ${pkgs.python3 (ps: [ps.requests])}` to access the path to the component of the packge set?
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<lukegb>
If you want a specific package, there's e.g. pkgs.python3.pkgs.requests (or python3Packages.requests)
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<aleph->
Got it, thought there was a pkgs attrib I could access
* virkony
can't understand how overriding wayland results in re-building 197 derivations among which ripgrep, rustfmt, bat, git and 379 additionally fetched among which curl, bc, yasm, nss-cacert...
<voidless>
Is there way to reset declarative nixos containers? like erease all non static data, and/or recreate the containers fs?
<aleph->
Stupid question, python packages what's the way to disable `setuptoolsCheckPhase`? Just doing `checkPhase ="";` doesn't seem to work?
<qyliss>
aleph-: dontUseSetuptoolsCheck = true ?
<virkony>
qyliss: yes. If I comment out wayland = ..., I get no such things. Problem that I try to solve is that Firefox 88 from nixos-20.03 have clipboard issues under Sway 1.6 (cherry-picked from unstable). And I cherry-pick Sway 1.6 because Firefox gets flickering in old version from nixos-20.09...
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<qyliss>
virkony: oh you're using 20.09
<qyliss>
does the command I posted help you figure out why it's depending on wayland at all?
<virkony>
qyliss: yes. all nixos-20.09 (latest stable)
<aleph->
Hmm okay seems packaging custom_components for HASS is going to be fun. Hmm
<virkony>
qyliss: oh... thanks. that thing indeed shows wayland as dependency through mesa - libGL - cairo - gobject-introspection - gdk-pixbuf - ruby? (I think I didn't managed to follow lines)
<virkony>
I used nix-tree and for ripgrep it shows only glibc
<qyliss>
I don't know what nix-tree is, but it might be build deps vs runtime deps
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<qyliss>
if you were to change nix-instantiate to nix-build in the command I posted, you'd get the runtime dependencies
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<simpson>
aleph-: Yeah, it's bad enough that I gave up entirely on running it. At this point I think I'm slowly cobbling together my own, out of Prometheus and feedgnuplot and curl.
<virkony>
qyliss: actually I run that command when I was in folder for nixpkgs-unstable channel. So it is weird that you don't see this weird dependency
<colemickens>
I know WG in NixOS doesn't work perfectly for a certain scenario, but does Tailscale's exit node feature work in NixOS?
<qyliss>
virkony: your checkout is older than mine :)
<colemickens>
Like if I configure a rpi4 image with tailscale and set it up as an exit node, would a mac be able to route internet through it? IIRC that should work, it's just the other side that doesn't work well in nixos (routing all traffic through the wg interface) and is why we use netns right?
<aleph->
It should.
<aleph->
CC: Cadey ^
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<qyliss>
virkony: it was fixed in #118479
<aleph->
Ugh god work is getting into my irc habits. I just CC'd someone. :|
<pennae>
nixos as router is great. we've rebuilt ours not too long ago and it's been the least painful router thing we've ever had (though not the prettiest, that honor goes to tomato)
<virkony>
it is seems much easier to keep in store both stable and unstable nixos instead of trying cherry-picking individual packages into stable package-set...
<qyliss>
probably!
<qyliss>
means all their dependencies will be correct
<virkony>
qyliss: why they wouldn't be with cherry-picking? When packages being re-built they check required versions
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<qyliss>
the versions they need might not be the versions you have in your nixpkgs
<virkony>
sometimes requires also cherry-picking dependencies
<qyliss>
and sometimes that breaks other packages you're using
<qyliss>
so then you'll need to update them as well
<virkony>
qyliss: I usually add those pacakges with suffix "-unstable", so they don't interfere
<virkony>
I.e. I was trying to keep most of the system shared, but branching to unstable only at some packages.
<aleph->
Cadey: Hey so does tailscale have any ideas of getting it to work on starlink? Seems starlink is using CGNAT... and therefore the 10.100.x.x~ address space I think.
<aleph->
Came up in -chat the other day.
<Cadey>
like does it use CGNAT for customer addresses inside the home lan?
<virkony>
qyliss: sometimes base package set already have needed dependencies. For example to get latest zig, I can use llvmPackages_11
<qyliss>
sure, I'm not saying it's impossible
<qyliss>
it's just a lot of work you wouldn't need to do if you just imported unstable
<aleph->
Cadey: Iirc ya
<Cadey>
because if not then you should probably be fine?
<Cadey>
what
<qyliss>
that's interesting
<qyliss>
Chrome OS uses the CGNAT space for internal networking
<Cadey>
i guess i'd need to get a starlink dish expensed to test it further :P
<qyliss>
(between the host system and the VM running the optional Linux container)
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<pennae>
huh, nixos doesn't have a tayga module yet? D:
<Henson>
so for a PR, I just have to keep satisfying the requests/comments of the reviewers, and then at some point in time it may or may not be accepted? I'm just wondering if there's any action outside of the "satisfy the reviewers requests" that I have to perform.
<qyliss>
no
<qyliss>
if you have to do something else, a reviewer will tell you
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<Henson>
if I've got a bunch of nix packages that don't exist in nixpkgs yet, for which I've made derivations, would it be better to submit one PR per package, or bundle them all together into a single PR, or maybe another option?
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<sterni>
one package per PR is usually best
<sterni>
unless they are related somehow
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<Henson>
sterni: ok
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @NinjaTrappeur opened pull request #121427 → nixos/nsd: atomically create state directories with appropriate mode → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/121427
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<romildo>
When writing a nix expression for a Python application, packages in pythonPath have to be explicitly added to buildInputs?
<{^_^}>
[nix] @Ma27 opened pull request #4759 → libstore/derivation-goal: don't raise an error if the only remaining output is a wildcard → https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/4759
<matthewcroughan>
How does hydra know there has been a new change on git?
<matthewcroughan>
does it poll very fast?
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<pennae>
would guess github webhooks for push
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<zeta_0>
Hello there, I'm currently using raspberry pi os on my pi 4, and I'm considering installing nixos on my pi4, so I'm wondering what is the status of nixos on pi 4? does xmonad and xserver build currently? also, last time I tried building nixos on my pi4, I got this weird alsa mixer error, so I hope that issue has been fixed as well? If any of you could clarify this, thanks in advance!
<Niklauz[m]>
I'm sure this is wrong but thought I'd ask ... It's there any prospect for the introduction of an alternative language to what Nix currently uses for it's declarative configuration?
<Niklauz[m]>
* I'm sure this is wrong but thought is ask ... It's there any prospect for the introduction of an alternative language to what Nix currently uses for it's declarative configuration?
<Niklauz[m]>
(I heard it saw it mentioned but maybe it was a joke)
<Niklauz[m]>
* (I heard or saw it mentioned but maybe it was a joke)
<evils>
Niklauz[m]: Guix is based on Nix but uses Guile, maybe that's what you heard about?
<Cadey>
aleph-: i don't think there should be any conflict between starlink and tailscale, they use a 192.168.0.0/16 subnet for the lan and a CGNAT IP for WAN