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<cole-h> danderson: What are the chances you're running an older Intel processor?
<cole-h> (older as in: maybe 4th gen?)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JTen0
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<MetroWind> I'm using Nix in macOS. I was trying to install Imagemagick with "nix-env -i imagemagick" but it doesn't install the latest version. Why is that?
<MetroWind> I expect it to install 7.0.x (listed with nix-env -qa) but it gave me version 6.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mkg20001 opened pull request #100062 → libwebrtc → https://git.io/JTecc
<stigo> MetroWind: hi! try to install imagemagick7 instead
<MetroWind> stigo: "error: selector 'imagemagick7' matches no derivations"
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<stigo> try `nix-env -Ai nixpkgs.imagemagick7` or `nix-shell -p imagemagick7`
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<MetroWind> stigo: Uh ok, both worked!
<MetroWind> stigo: Thanks!
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to redesign-community « nixcon section redesign »: https://git.io/JTeCY
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas merged pull request #612 → Fixup issue templates → https://git.io/JUjAk
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JTeCO
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<{^_^}> [nixos-artwork] @garbas pushed to master « swap mobile<->desktop file for governance page »: https://git.io/JTeCN
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed 72 commits to redesign-governance: https://git.io/JTeWf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samuela opened pull request #100064 → vscode: 1.49.3 -> 1.50.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/100064
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #99994 → arrow-cpp: 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 → https://git.io/JUh4R
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @veprbl to master « arrow-cpp: 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 »: https://git.io/JTelo
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<{^_^}> [nix-pills] @jonringer merged pull request #160 → Add missing beginning of sentence → https://git.io/JTeqv
<{^_^}> [nix-pills] @jonringer pushed commit from @sbellem to master « Add missing beginning of sentence »: https://git.io/JTelM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #99107 → picom: 8 -> 8.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/99107
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 0 commits to master: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/6b74dfe37636...6b74dfe37636
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<samueldr> ^ ??!?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthuszagh opened pull request #100065 → Kicad → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/100065
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<siraben> If I see a license like https://github.com/pdewacht/oberon-risc-emu#copyright , what should I put in meta.license?
<Guest76422> That looks like ISC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthuszagh opened pull request #100066 → kicad: add srcs parameter to allow configuring kicad versions → https://git.io/JTe4z
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JTe42
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<samueldr> siraben: a good method to find the license is copy the text outright into a search engine
<samueldr> and compare
<samueldr> here the two paragraphs match ISC 100%
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<hyper_ch> qtwebkit still broken :(
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<spease> Does anybody know how to set up a docker service in nixos/nix in the docker registry? For docker-in-docker uses.
<spease> This is for getting images created with GitLab CI into the container registry
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<siraben> samueldr: Thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #100054 → [20.09] pythonPackages.sievelib: fix build by adding patch → https://git.io/JTeIe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @risicle to release-20.09 « pythonPackages.sievelib: fix build by adding patch »: https://git.io/JTeRQ
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<Wulfsta> All PRs are failing checks since about 5 hours ago, is the bot down?
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<samueldr> nope, it's working well
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to redesign-governance « implement the rest of the governance page design »: https://git.io/JTe0Z
<samueldr> something on master broke
<samueldr> since the verifications have to be made against master, when master breaks all PRs end up failing
<Wulfsta> samueldr: Thanks, wasn't sure what was happening and figured I'd ask before opening an issue.
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<samueldr> fastest way to know the bot is working or not, look amongst the older failing PRs (I see one from a Wulfsta!) and if there's a check from the ofborg eval, the bot ran
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<samueldr> and "The branch this PR will merge in to does not cleanly evaluate, and so this PR cannot…" means that the branch (here master) did not evaluate cleanly _before_ trying to look at your changes
<Wulfsta> Ah, that makes sense! Thanks again for the help
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100016 → lobster: unstable-2020-07-27 -> unstable-2020-10-04 → https://git.io/JUhHB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTeEv
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<Fuuzetsu> xos
<Fuuzetsu> Hi. Is there any reason why root user doesn't by default use the nix-daemon service just look regular users in multi-user setup? Considering that the advised way to set things like private S3 caches is to set variables for the nix-daemon service, this seems a bit strange. It means that actions as root (such as nixos-rebuild) don't honour the variables – so you are suddenly not using the expected env and your binary cache fetch fails
<Fuuzetsu> couldn't really find any docs on this.
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<clever> Fuuzetsu: less overhead, it can just fork out the child workers directly, and modify /nix/store without using the RPC
<clever> Fuuzetsu: but you can `export NIX_REMOTE=daemon` to force it
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<fresheyeball> is it possible to provide an env to a systemd module?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #97386 → tinycdb: add support for static build → https://git.io/JUZ7f
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTeap
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<Ke> if I want a nixos friendly calendar and shopping list, what would be the most sane option?
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<emmanuel_erc> Hello there!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #100059 → maestral-gui: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.1 → https://git.io/JTeYU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTeiU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti opened pull request #100067 → Update Haskell package set to LTS 16.17 (plus other fixes) → https://git.io/JTeD7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JTeyK
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<joesventek> Any systemd wizards presents? Are all user units automatically `PartOf` the `default.target`? Can't find it in the systemd docs.
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<mcint> I think there's a user.target
<mcint> or login.
<mcint> systemd-analyze?
<zecnate> It's a top-level function parameter, and the file is called with `callPackage` here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/61525137fd1002f6f2a5eb0ea27d480713362cd5/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix#L9352-L9356
<zecnate> But that call site doesn't define it.
<mcint> (oops, crossed wires b/w qs)
<joesventek> Hmm, let me see, mcint. Thanks for the hints.
<zecnate> Ah, I found it in the `…8/default.nix`. nm.
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<mcint> zecnate, thanks for sharing updates. you rabbit hole dev investigation trace is a great learning experience for me
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<onny[m]> Would be happy if someone would want to review my PR :) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/99724
<{^_^}> #99724 (by onny, 2 days ago, open): ocenaudio: init at 3.9.3
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<siraben> Are there good tutorials on how to do web development with Nix? Is it possible to specify a MongoDB server to run locally, for instance?
<siraben> Working with a large node project
<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat opened pull request #4128 → Add a zsh completion script → https://git.io/JTe5W
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « yarn2nix-moretea: re-add support for `git://` URLs from `yarn.lock` »: https://git.io/JTedR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to release-20.09 « yarn2nix-moretea: re-add support for `git://` URLs from `yarn.lock` »: https://git.io/JTedj
<ocharles> I have `./nix/pkgs.nix` which uses `builtins.fetchTarball` to fetch a version of NixOS 20.03. This works, and I can do: nix-shell -p '(import ./nix/pkgs.nix).hello'. However, this only works if I have <nixpkgs> working, and I don't know why
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<ocharles> That is, `env NIX_PATH= nix-shell -p '(import ./nix/pkgs.nix).hello'` explodes with: `error: file 'nixpkgs' was not found in the Nix search path (add it using $NIX_PATH or -I), at (string):1:13`
<ocharles> Any idea why this is happening?
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<ocharles> `env NIX_PATH= nix-build -E '(import ./nix/pkgs.nix).hello'` works, so I guess it's nix-shell specific
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<ikwildrpepper> ocharles: I think it might be `nix-shell -p` which requires a nixpkgs in NIX_PATH
<ocharles> hmm, even if I give it an expression?
<ikwildrpepper> yeah, see src/nix-build/nix-build.cc: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/src/nix-build/nix-build.cc#L266
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<ocharles> :vomit
<ocharles> ok, I can try -E
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Emantor opened pull request #100068 → xorg.xorgserver: 1.20.8 -> 1.20.9 → https://git.io/JTebP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #100069 → fuse-overlayfs: 1.1.2 -> 1.2.0 → https://git.io/JTeb5
<ikwildrpepper> ocharles: maybe this works easier: nix shell -f nix/pkgs.nix julia.julia_15_source
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ggreif opened pull request #100070 → lldb_{10, 11}: polish the cmakeFlags → https://git.io/JTebd
<ikwildrpepper> nix shell -f nix/pkgs.nix hello
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed to master « nixos/pam: remove trailing whitespace »: https://git.io/JTeN3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #100069 → fuse-overlayfs: 1.1.2 -> 1.2.0 → https://git.io/JTeb5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed to master « fuse-overlayfs: 1.1.2 -> 1.2.0 »: https://git.io/JTeAB
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<asheshambasta> Under what circumstances can adding binaryCaches have no effect? I was using Cachix and had cachix.nix in my imports (which I removed since I realised it was overwriting nix.binaryCaches); but even then, after adding nix.binaryCaches and the keys, my system still wants to build everything.
<asheshambasta> I'm trying to install obelisk in particular; following the instructions at: https://github.com/obsidiansystems/obelisk#installing-obelisk
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<timstott> Hi All, I have broken master (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/99198#issuecomment-705968074), I apologise. I don't have a good fix forward so I think a revert is best. Any objections?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timstott opened pull request #100071 → Revert "terraform-providers: Terraform 0.13 compatibility" → https://git.io/JTepQ
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<asheshambasta> For some reason no additions to nix.binaryCaches seems to have any effect.
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<Taneb> asheshambasta: if you only add something to nix.binaryCaches, only root and other trusted users can use them. Try adding to nix.trustedBinaryCaches instead?
<Taneb> No, I'm wrong
<asheshambasta> I see some substituters added to my local nix.conf for some reason
<asheshambasta> I don't remember adding them :-)
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<clever> asheshambasta: can you pastebin `nixos-option nix.binaryCaches ; nixos-option nix.extraOptions`?
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<asheshambasta> clever ^
<asheshambasta> at least `binaryCaches` seems correct
<clever> asheshambasta: that says that you should have 2 caches in your nix.conf, one of them being there twice
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<asheshambasta> I'm not sure I understand.
<edcragg> Yaniel: if you're around, we talked a month or so ago about broken font rendering for some apps on unstable, and upgrading the version of fontconfig linked against for those apps to fix it. However, i'm not sure how to update fontconfig, the build inputs for the app in question simply pulls in `fontconfig`, so not sure what needs to be done
<asheshambasta> cache.nixos.org was repeated, which I had mistakenly added to nix.binaryCaches in configuration.nix; which I now have removed. I also see the nixcache.reflex-frp.org in there now, which means I should be able to install obelisk without any local builds; which seems to not be the case.
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<asheshambasta> I think I get it now; the caches in ~/.config/nix/nix.conf were being preferred over the ones in nix.binaryCaches.
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<hugolgst> do you guys know why with this configuration: https://hastebin.com/apelejiqez.bash and my disk encrypted, at startup it waits for the device infinitely?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-20.09 « knot-dns: 2.9.6 -> 2.9.7 »: https://git.io/JTvT1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm opened pull request #100072 → ###### Motivation for this change → https://git.io/JTvkD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @devhell opened pull request #100073 → teams: 1.3.00.16851 -> 1.3.00.25560 → https://git.io/JTvIJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-20.03 « knot-dns: 2.9.6 -> 2.9.7 »: https://git.io/JTvI2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat closed pull request #100068 → xorg.xorgserver: 1.20.8 -> 1.20.9 → https://git.io/JTebP
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<immae> simukis_: you can try system.activationScripts.transmission-daemon = lib.mkforce "";
<immae> (in your configuration.nix)
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<siraben> How do I wrap a Python application using qt5.wrapQtAppsHook?
<siraben> I have a package; http://ix.io/2Aci and at runtime I have the error
<siraben> qt.qpa.plugin: Could not find the Qt platform plugin "cocoa" in ""
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<Philonous> sane-airscan seems to install a static configuration file in the store and adding /etc/sane.d/airscan.conf doesn't seem to do anything, how do I change the configuration then?
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<Philonous> Never mind, airscan seems to pick up configuration from /etc/sane.d/airscan.conf after all
<Philonous> For some reason it didn't get picked up by sane before I rebootet the machine
<__red__> non-random nix question.
<__red__> I want to install nix on a linux distribution on a production without the nix demons running
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<__red__> so I guess I can install it as a single-user and then (in thoery) copy their .nix-* stuff from their home directory?
<__red__> or is there some other way I can achieve this?
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<__red__> I guess I just need to get the right paths / environments between the users?
<simpson> I wonder what you want to have happen when multiple users do things at once.
<simpson> The names "single-user" and "multi-user" are AIUI relatively descriptive of the number of users that can simultaneously use Nix in that configuration.
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<__red__> Well, I'm the only user on the system
<__red__> One issue I have is that I need to use cryptsetup
<__red__> which has to run as root
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<__red__> but sudo cryptsetup won't work
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<__red__> because all the nix stuff drops out of scope when you run sudo
<simpson> Yeah. What does your production administrator think of all of this? I presume that they *want* you to use their pre-installed suid tools.
<__red__> except they don't have cryptsetup in any of their repos
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<__red__> and I'm going to want to deploy apps this way too
<__red__> so maybe I'm overthinking it
<__red__> so with users like: app1, app2 etc
<__red__> or maybe I just should run multi-user and hope they don't notice? ;-)
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<simpson> I'm confused on whether you (plan to/will) have multiple users on the machine. If you're only deploying apps and not users, then you might want to consider containerizing or otherwise isolating their running contexts. (Or go fully the other direction and use NixOS and systemd.)
<simpson> But I'm also confused on why to put Nix onto an already-deployed production machine. So maybe I just don't understand your goal.
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<__red__> it's a level 9 issue
<__red__> hmm, multi doesn't seem to work anyways
<__red__> oddly
<simonpe^^> I've a project that I built on my build server. Then I have a nixos machine and an ubuntu machine that both build the same project using the build server as a substituter. They all show the same `nix-instantiate` derivation hash. On the nixos machine I keep getting "nar/yzpn99zj5sr6i4y1zgwkzd8d0yjnkn0v.nar' does not exist in binary cache 'http://10.4.6.95:8099". What's going on?
<__red__> building '/nix/store/b64sdzfcc4wd2p656i9jskxdmhjkq0cv-user-environment.drv'...
<__red__> error: opening directory '/nix/store/4vz8sh9ngx34ivi0bw5hlycxdhvy5hvz-nix-2.3.7': Permission denied
<__red__> at this point of the build: sudo HOME=/root /nix/store/4vz8sh9ngx34ivi0bw5hlycxdhvy5hvz-nix-2.3.7/bin/nix-env -i /nix/store/4vz8sh9ngx34ivi0bw5hlycxdhvy5hvz-nix-2.3.7
<__red__> okay - it is what it is
<__red__> I'll just install cryptsetup and crew from sources by hand
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<__red__> man, if I could just work out how to run cryptsetup from sudo that would be good enough
<__red__> /home/username/.nix-profile/bin/cryptsetup
<__red__> bleugh
<__red__> ;)
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<__red__> huh - apparently just copying the symlink is sufficient
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<astk> im having trouble using nix-build via ssh
<astk> it says;
<astk> bash: nix-build: command not found
<astk> ssh -i key username@ipAddr -p portNum nix-build
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<astk> though "ls" works...
<astk> is this something to do with nix-build not being a regular exe?
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<astk> the same thing happens for "nix" aswell
<astk> when logged into the remote box, typing nix-build at the command line returns;
<immae> astk: the distant shell may not load the same things in an "interactive" and "non-interactive" context
<astk> error: getting status of .. No such file or directory
<astk> as expected
<astk> immae: do you know of a workaround?
<immae> It depends on what your distant shell is
<astk> its the Ubuntu WSL
<immae> It doesn’t really answer the question
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<immae> is it bash, zsh, ..?
<astk> oh, then im not sure i understand what you were asking
<astk> well the error seems to say bash
<immae> oh right
<astk> bash: nix-build: command not found
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<immae> then check if your /etc/bash.bashrc or ~/.bashrc contains some important things
<immae> like setting a path for nix
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<immae> if I remember correctly those files are sourced only in an interactive context
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<immae> Oh no sorry
<immae> /etc/profile it is
<astk> that file is difficult to understand. it does not mention nix at all
<astk> it has a line that says; # If not running interactively, don't do anything
<astk> ah ok
<astk> that file also does not mention nix at all
<immae> does it contain something like `for profile in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do <source some file>`
<astk> for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
<immae> right
<immae> so look in those files too
<immae> you probably have a nix.sh and a nix-daemon.sh there
<astk> ls /etc/profile.d/*.sh
<astk> does not mention anything with nix
<immae> ok let’s try it another way
<immae> can you ssh to the machine and run "which nix-build" ?
<astk> /home/hask/.nix-profile/bin/nix-build
<simonpe^^> astk: you need a login shell
<astk> !?
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<immae> Then you shall make sure that /home/hask/.nix-profile/bin is in your path
<simonpe^^> try ssh -i key username@ipAddr bash -l 'nix-build -p portNum'
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<immae> something in your configuration is not loaded when not in a login shell and doesn’t find the path
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<simonpe^^> sorry it should be bash -lc
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<astk> oh no! that logged me into the shell
<astk> i just want it to run the command
<astk> its being driven by an auxiallry program
<astk> it should only return a string
<astk> into stdout
<immae> then execute /home/hask/.nix-profile/bin/nix-build directly
<simonpe^^> I understand, that was my intention
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<immae> > ssh -i key username@ipAddr /home/hask/.nix-profile/bin/nix-build
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected '@', expecting ')', at (string):325:20
<immae> although you might miss other important variables by doing that
<simonpe^^> I'm pretty sure bash -lc 'nix-build...' should not log you in, it doesn't for me
<astk> aha! that works perfectly
<astk> so the ssh just cant resolve the path to the exe properly?
<immae> it does
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<simonpe^^> the problem is that the ununtu crap only sources the entire environment on login shells
<immae> but as I said you have a bash configuration file that is not sourced in non-interactive mode
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<simonpe^^> its some ubuntu/debian invention
<immae> (non-interactive = you only run a command and then exit)
<astk> oh sorry, that was the way i was doing the ssh - it put quates round the "-lc nix-build"
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<astk> cmd "ssh -i key hask@127.0.0.1 -p 2222 -lc nix-build"
<astk> bash: nix-build: command not found
<astk> so adding the -lc does not help
<immae> I think you missed part of what simonpe^^ said :)
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<immae> ssh -i key hask@127.0.0.1 -p 2222 bash -lc 'nix-build'
<astk> oh no, this is a haskell problem
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<astk> that command from the cmd prompt works
<astk> but, using haskells runCommand it does not
<immae> you lost me
<simonpe^^> I am incredibly confused too
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<astk> in ghci i write;
<astk> :m System.Process
<astk> runCommand "ssh -i key hask@127.0.0.1 -p 2222 -lc 'nix-build'"
<astk> it returns;
<astk> Prelude System.Process> bash: nix-build: command not found
<simonpe^^> you stil got the command wrong
<immae> runCommand "ssh -i key hask@127.0.0.1 -p 2222 bash -lc 'nix-build'"
<simonpe^^> we've told you 3 times exactly how to type it lol
<astk> oh there is a "bash" word aswell, sorry
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<astk> ah ok, that works now from haskell!
<astk> horay! thanks
<simonpe^^> good luck :)
<immae> good :)
<astk> peace
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<simonpe^^> lol
<immae> funny that runCommand exists both in haskell and in nix :D
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<simonpe^^> indeed, but the :m gave it away that he was in a ghci repl :P
<immae> > runCommand "ssh -i key hask@127.0.0.1 -p 2222 -lc 'nix-build'"
<{^_^}> <LAMBDA>
<immae> you’re not haskellish enought {^_^}
<simonpe^^> haha :D
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<bbigras> Anyone got `error: public key is not valid` this morning? I get it with `nix-shell`, like with `nix-shell -p rustfmt`
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<lordcirth> bbigras, do you have a build host configured or something?
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<bbigras> lordcirth: what is a "build host"? a remote builder?
<lordcirth> Yeah. I don't see why it would be using a pubkey otherwise
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<bbigras> lordcirth: I'm not supposed to, I'll check. I do use a lot of cachix caches, not sure if it could be related.
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<astk> hi, i was asking before about using nix via ssh
<astk> the option: bash -lc
<astk> was suggested
<astk> but now, i cant get it to take multiple options
<astk> it can fund nix-build ok
<astk> find*
<bbigras> lordcirth: if I use `nix build --max-jobs 0` it doesn't want to build so I'm guessing I don't have any remote builder set up.
<astk> but it does not see the -A options
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<astk> so gives an error about travis
<lordcirth> astk, what happens when you try to use multiple options?
<astk> it basically just sees the first of them
<astk> it would give that error if i just wrote nix-build without an -A etc
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<astk> i cant do; ssh ... bash -lc cd ./ && nix-build -A myArg
<astk> because then the bash -lc only applies to the cd
<astk> so i have to permute it past the &&
<astk> but then it only calls nix-build, without its options
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<astk> um, it would be; ssh ... " cd ./ && bash -lc nix-build -A myArg "
<astk> where i have to use quotes
<astk> so the whole command is run by ssh
<astk> i think i would like to use quotes to supply the whole argument to bash -lc ...
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<astk> but then there would be two sets of quotes, and they would cancel
<ToxicFrog> ssh ... 'bash -lc cd ./ && nix-build -A "myArg"'
<ToxicFrog> You can nest single and double quotes, and you can also do double quotes and nest more double quotes inside them with \"
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<astk> yes! that works - with the extra \
<astk> thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #100089 → spidermonkey: drop from all-packages, add to aliases → https://git.io/JTvu0
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<siraben> How do I wrap a Python application using qt5.wrapQtAppsHook? I have a package; http://ix.io/2Aci and at runtime I have the error, qt.qpa.plugin: Could not find the Qt platform plugin "cocoa" in ""
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<worldofpeace> siraben: see https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#sec-language-qt mkDerivationWith
<worldofpeace> it would be mkDerivationWith python3.buildPythonApplication. and called with qt's callPackage in all-packages.nix
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<siraben> worldofpeace: Thanks! How would I make it possible in a standalone derivation?
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<worldofpeace> siraben: ooh, um using a nixpkgs from 2018 is probably highly dangerous considering any kind of security issues with those versions of qt and python
<siraben> worldofpeace: ah oops, it's misleading! it's from 2020-09-22 I tihnk
<siraben> think*
<siraben> that's the last time pyqt5 works on darwin
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<worldofpeace> siraben: ah right, and to answer you question. I think you'd have to use two files, so `default.nix` and `package.nix`. `package.nix` is the package expression with all the arguments at the top, and `default.nix` calls the package. so `let package = libsForQt5.callPackage; in package`
<siraben> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks!
<worldofpeace> glad I could help. hope it all goes smoothly siraben
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<siraben> worldofpeace: package.nix : http://ix.io/2AdX default.nix: http://ix.io/2AdY , it build but I still get
<siraben> qt.qpa.plugin: Could not find the Qt platform plugin "cocoa"
<Guest10> I just booted fresh nixos plasma live ISO and have no running nix-daemon. When I trying to start it it says: Failed to start nix-daemon.service: Unit nix-store.mount is masked.
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<worldofpeace> siraben: U missed a part of my suggestion
<worldofpeace> let me get the log
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<worldofpeace> and above that in the manual about how mkDerivationWith works
<evanjs> So X-based services on RDP -- is this something that's feasible (and easily configurable)? I am using xrdp and various services, such as picom, only start on local sessions
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<evanjs> I've gone over the docs on arch but like, idk, it's a _lot_ of information and often times in several, slightly different forms 🤪
<evanjs> Also wasn't sure if there was something idiomatic for nix/pkgs/os
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #99947 → beancount: 2.3.1 -> 2.3.2 → https://git.io/JUxQD
<worldofpeace> evanjs: this thread shows a lot of struggles https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/57717
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<{^_^}> #57717 (by Zhen-hao, 1 year ago, open): xrdp server missing KDE option
<siraben> worldofpeace: Ok I changed the line in package.nix to `mkDerivationWith python3.pkgs.buildPythonApplication rec {` , but it still fails to find the module
<siraben> I'll try qt5.callPackage
<siraben> Yeah, that fails too :/
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<worldofpeace> siraben: see the example "wrapQtAppsHook ignores files that are non-ELF executables." in the manual
<worldofpeace> this will make the app wrapped twice unfortunately.
<worldofpeace> kinda confusing, sorry about that.
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<evanjs> worldofpeace: interesting, thank you! https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/57717#issuecomment-698297970
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<evanjs> sooo I tried opening a heaptrack file (generated with AppImage heaptrack) on NixOS, and it looks like we don't have zstd support
<evanjs> so it does seem adding zstd to buildInputs was enough, but
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<evanjs> I see a lot of references to boost-zstd in the CMakeFiles and wasn't sure if there was something better I could do
<evanjs> Bah, should probably just open a PR to nixpkgs with the supposed fix, huh? :P
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #100095 → treewide: don't use spidermonkey attr → https://git.io/JTvS7
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<siraben> worldofpeace: Oh it works, thanks!
<siraben> What was the point about not double wrapping?
<worldofpeace> siraben: so wrapQtAppsHook will make one wrapper... and then wrapPython will wrap that wrapper. it's scary
<worldofpeace> and wrapPython uses makeWrapperArgs and you can basically give that wrapper script the argument the qt one collected without creating a wrapper automatically
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar pushed to master « treewide: Use spidermonkey_68 explicitly »: https://git.io/JTv9l
<worldofpeace> lol
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #100095 → treewide: don't use spidermonkey attr → https://git.io/JTvS7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace reopened pull request #100095 → treewide: don't use spidermonkey attr → https://git.io/JTvS7
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<siraben> worldofpeace: yay, looks like the modification in the gist works!
<siraben> worldofpeace++
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @evanjs opened pull request #100096 → heaptrack: build with zstd support → https://git.io/JTvHo
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<worldofpeace> Just reminding aaron niksnut LnL flokli ma27 garbas for GO / NO-GO meeting
<worldofpeace> tbh not all of you are probably needed
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<aanderse> thanks worldofpeace
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<ma27[m]> worldofpeace: I'm very sorry, but I won't make it today. If there's something I should comment on, just CC me in the ticket or in IRC, I'll take a look later tonight or tomorrow :)
<worldofpeace> ma27: gotcha. I believe there was some PRs you were trying to get in. maybe pm me about those if you're just waiting for some sort of RM review/approve
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<cantaloupe> trying to run nixos-install from USB installer and getting "syntax error, unexpected $end, at /dev/dm-1:1:1"
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<__red__> worldofpeace: is there an Office Hours?
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<worldofpeace> __red__: nope, just nixos planning stuff. not very interesting stuff too
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<cantaloupe> ,channels
<{^_^}> Largest Nix channels: #nixos, #nixos-dev, #nixos-chat, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-security, #nixcon, #nixos-officehours, #nixops, #haskell.nix, #nix-darwin, #nixos-de, #nixos-emacs, #nixos-on-your-router, #nixos-nur, #nix-lang, #nixos-fr, #nixos-systemd, #nixos-borg, #nixos-wiki
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<astk> how can i use nixops to set up nix on a clean aws instance?
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<cantaloupe> @astk you might want to try #nixops
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<astk> i understand this is what i need to be able to do in order to use nix-copy-closure to place the ./result directory on the remote box
<astk> cantaloupe: oh, is that different from nixos?
<astk> is that not the way to proceed?
<astk> should i just download nix manually on the aws?
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<cantaloupe> @astk, I'm here to try to get some help myself, but since you're asking about nixops I think you could try #nixops
<cantaloupe> I'm just stuck on installing nixos on a desktop PC
<astk> ok!
<astk> oh, i can help with that
<astk> where are you currently with that?
<astk> are you on windows?
<cantaloupe> I'm booted from USB with nixos minimal installer
<cantaloupe> "<cantaloupe> trying to run nixos-install from USB installer and getting "syntax error, unexpected $end, at /dev/dm-1:1:1""
<astk> hmm, thats not how i did it. i just used WSL from windows, which works ok
<astk> i never used nixos so im not sure i can help
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<cantaloupe> I've set up and mounted LUKS devices for my main btrfs filesystem and swap
<cantaloupe> okay, thanks anyway
<astk> wow - i never heard of any of those things...
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<astk> is the WSL option not ok for some reason?
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<cantaloupe> I'm a long-time Linux user - no Windows here
<astk> (i asked about using nixops to deploy nix to the aws, but there is nobody online by the looks of it)
<astk> (on #nixops)
<cantaloupe> could be timezone-dependent
<astk> yeah, its almost snack time
<jared-w> What instance are you using on aws? ec2?
<astk> yep
<cantaloupe> have you read the docs about nixops? people are going to prefer if you've done a bit of homework
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<astk> there is plenty of documentation - the thing is, i managed to do it before with just a one line command
<astk> which i cant find among the documentation, so i thought id ask
<astk> apparently nixops is really complicated
<astk> i did; nix-env -i nixops
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<astk> and it seems to have set up on my WSL
<astk> i have added to private key to ssh-agent, so it should be able to log in without the -i option that ssh uses
<jared-w> nixops can get tricky with ec2 if you're using a default AMI. You'll usually need to infect the OS somehow and the setup isn't particularly worth it since making AMIs isn't terribly difficult.
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<astk> what would you suggest?
<astk> what do i need to do in order to be able to use nix-copy-closure to put the ./result of a nix-build onto the aws
<astk> ?
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<astk> its a totally clean instance
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<jared-w> Well, nixops has a plugin that helps it support ec2 natively, so you can use it to *create* the instance and avoid having to figure out how to install nix on the instance
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<bk1603[m]> In the derivation for gnu hello, I see something like `"/nix/store/2xwl0cp7vz8x6wfyi09f9dcpdaj033vr-coreutils-8.31.drv": [ "out"]` I get that the inputDrvs contains the derivations for the build dependencies, but what does the "out" stand for? Is it somehow related to the "out" attribute in "outputs" for the derivation?
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<jared-w> astk: https://github.com/NixOS/nixops-aws/tree/master/examples this would get you started on that route, I think
<bk1603[m]> I got to the runtime dependencies part in nix pills, but confused
<astk> i mean, is there any reason that i shouldnt just use;
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<jared-w> Sure, you can do that. Then you just need to figure out how to get the instance accessible over ssh and then you can use the copy closure just fine
<jared-w> No nixops needed
<astk> ah, ok, that might be much more simple
<astk> so nixops is for *creating* instances!?
<astk> thats pretty cool
<bk1603[m]> [here](https://pastebin.com/CqhAJUjU) is the paste for the derivation
<jared-w> astk: it can create/manage/etc several instances at once. Yes. Think of it as something similar to ansible + terraform
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<jared-w> bk1603[m]: it's exactly the out attribute in outputs. If you had a derivatation with multiple outputs (like zlib) you'd see more than one item in the array
<astk> well, im just using the free tier - so i can only run one instance!
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<jared-w> Sounds like installing nix manually will do you fine unless you want to experiment with infrastructure-as-code
<astk> hmm, i just tried
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<astk> it says;
<astk> bash: nix-store: command not found
<astk> on running nix-copy-closure
<astk> even though if i type nix-store on both the aws and the wsl, they both return "error: no operation specified" as they should
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<jared-w> Not sure, honestly. WSL is not something I'm terribly familiar with
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<astk> pretty much its just ubuntu. im just using wsl and aws to refer to the local and remote linuxes
<bk1603[m]> jared-w: so the build dependencies of a derivation are also placed in the `out` path of the derivation?
<bk1603[m]> But I tried listing out the contents of where the derivation was built and I didn't see them there. I am sure I am still getting something wrong.
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<jared-w> bk1603[m]: so the `"/nix/store/2xwl0cp7vz8x6wfyi09f9dcpdaj033vr-coreutils-8.31.drv": [ "out"]` bit you're seeing is inside the inputDrvs object right? The array is just specifying which outputs of the derivations are used for the inputs.
<astk> hmm, it says; error: cannot connect to 'ubuntu@3.138.85.224'
<astk> probably i shouldnt have posted the ip...
<jared-w> meh it's fine. You probably haven't actually enabled inbound access to the ec2 instance yet
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #100100 → xdg-desktop-portal-gtk: 1.7.1 → 1.8.0 → https://git.io/JTvxh
<astk> jared-w: i can scp onto it
<astk> so im not sure why nix-copy-closure doesnt work
<astk> am i doing the wrong thing to try and copy the exes from ./result onto the aws?
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<jared-w> ah you have enabled external connectivity after all
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<astk> so thats not the problem...
<{^_^}> nix#1078 (by mboes, 4 years ago, open): nix-copy-closure: support non-NixOS machines
<jared-w> Looks like that's the problem :)
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<astk> thats a very confusing thread
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<andreoss> I'm defining a systemd service? How can I set to have the excactly the same path as other trusted users have? https://paste.centos.org/view/cee6ae79 It seems that `path` property can only contain list of packages.
<bk1603[m]> jared-w: Oh I see, that clears things out a bit. But then I don't understand how does `nix` get the runtime dependencies? The book says that the out paths from the build dependencies derivation that are found in the NAR are runtime dependencies. [Here](https://nixos.org/guides/nix-pills/automatic-runtime-dependencies.html) is the link to where I'm reading right now.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « haskell-ghcide: update overrides for the new version of lsp-test »: https://git.io/JTvpo
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<bk1603[m]> From what I understand, NAR is just an archive, which is different from tar by being deterministic. So that should simply contain the built derivation in it right?
<bk1603[m]> (I haven't read the thesis paper linked in the book, in the hopes that it won't be crucial to the understanding of nix, and I am hoping I am missing something extremely simple.)
<{^_^}> [nixos-artwork] @samueldr opened pull request #58 → logo: Add the white variant for use on dark backgrounds → https://git.io/JTvpb
<astk> does that mean i have to have nixops as the OS on the AWS instead of ubuntu?
<astk> im sure i had it working before though...
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<astk> wait, whats nix-deploy? is that what i should be using instead?
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<cantaloupe> anybody able to help with "error: syntax error: unexpected $end, at /dev/dm-1:1:1" trying to install to btrfs subvolume over LUKS
<cantaloupe> it looks like nixos-install is trying to read the /dev/dm-1 device as configuration for some reason
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<astk> ok, this works;
<astk> ssh ubuntu@3.138.85.224 bash -lc \"nix-env --versio
<astk> n\"
<astk> i have to use; bash -lc \" ... \"
<astk> in order for it to find nix-env
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #100067 → Update Haskell package set to LTS 16.17 (plus other fixes) → https://git.io/JTeD7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 9 commits to master: https://git.io/JTvjl
<astk> but i dont think i can do that with nix copy closure
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<astk> ah, it seems like that was in the thread you posted before;
<astk> something to do with non interactive sessions and problems with the path
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<leungbk> What is the most convenient way to test a change to a community overlay? I don't know the Nix language well, so the only way I'm aware of is to go to configuration.nix and change nixpkgs.overlays.
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4128 → Add a zsh completion script → https://git.io/JTe5W
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #100101 → chromium: Disable VA-API by default → https://git.io/JTfvt
<dminuoso> leungbk: What exactly did you modify?
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<dminuoso> leungbk: adding it to nixpkgs.overlays is the right way
<dminuoso> leungbk: This is how I use that particular overlay: https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/6236fb3fa498474fb86b499d9582fa78
<leungbk> dminuoso: Thanks!
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<astk> i tried some of the suggestions on the thread of how to get the nix tools into the path
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<astk> but it still does not let me check their versions via ssh without the bash -lc option
<astk> which means nix-copy-closure cant work
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn opened pull request #100102 → nix-output-monitor: Init at 0.1.0.0 → https://git.io/JTfvy
<astk> it suggests possibly making symlinks - but im not sure which things i would need to do this for
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTfvQ
<astk> how do i put nix on the path!?
<astk> or, as it says "the whole interactive / non-interactive is a bit of a pain for non-NixOS"
<astk> is there any way to set it up to bypass this complication?
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<astk> the only other way seems to be to use nix-copy-closure --from, to gather things from the local machine, instead of pushing them to the remote machine
<clever> clever@c2d ~ $ cat .bashrc
<clever> if [ -e /home/clever/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh ]; then . /home/clever/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh; fi # added by Nix installer
<clever> astk: the installer tends to add it to the "wrong" file, and its only available for interactive shells
<clever> astk: you can test it with `ssh user@host nix --version`
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<astk> bash: nix: command not found
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<clever> then your .bashrc needs more work
<astk> `ssh user@host bash -lc nix --version`
<astk> that works
<astk> but i cant add the `bash -lc` option to nix-copy-closure
<clever> try editing the .bashrc on the remote machine, to set $PATH correctly
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<nbathum> trying to package a python library, and perhaps I should just use poetry2nix as that is what the project uses. but I have an expression working for the source distribution. but I need to patch it to preserve some data (images)
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<astk> i can edit that using `vi .bashrc`
<astk> what do i need to add to it
<astk> i cant see mention of $PATH
<nbathum> is it 'normal' to do this dynamically (like in bash in a hook), or should I just create a fixed patch for it?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #100103 → nixos/doc: Mention fontconfig changes in 20.09 RN → https://git.io/JTff3
<clever> astk: you need the nix.sh line i pasted above
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to master « dmtx-utils: enable on darwin »: https://git.io/JTffZ
<astk> so i should paste the entire line;
<astk> if [ -e /home/clever/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh ]; then . /home/clever/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh; fi # added by Nix installer
<astk> into .bashrc ?
<clever> astk: yeah, near the top
<astk> oh, swapping the mentions of `clever`
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<clever> yeah
<astk> nope, still does not work
<cantaloupe> okay, so for posterity and googlerity, I had swapDevices = [ "/dev/mapper/crypt_swap" ]. It needed to be swapDevices = [ { device = "/dev/mapper/crypt_swap"; } ]
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #100100 → xdg-desktop-portal-gtk: 1.7.1 → 1.8.0 → https://git.io/JTvxh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTffz
<clever> astk: is it before or after any if statements?
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<astk> i put it below;
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<astk> # If not running interactively, don't do anything
<astk> case statement
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<astk> oh, i guess it should go above that!
<clever> exactly
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<astk> still doesnt work...
<astk> its right at the top now
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to release-20.09 « dmtx-utils: enable on darwin »: https://git.io/JTffy
<clever> astk: add an `echo` to it temporarily, and confirm if the echo runs
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JTffH
<astk> ah no wait!
<astk> it works
<astk> i had typed ubuntu@ip instead of just ubuntu as my /hame/ubuntu/ as ~ path
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<astk> woot, now nix-copy-closure says its copying paths
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<astk> could you add your solution to this thread?
<{^_^}> nix#1078 (by mboes, 4 years ago, open): nix-copy-closure: support non-NixOS machines
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<astk> oh, ok, i managed to do that!
<astk> thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed commit from @Jiehong to release-20.09 « doc: add AMD rocm and vulkan to 20.09 release notes (#95765) »: https://git.io/JTfUD
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<totom> hello
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn merged pull request #100102 → nix-output-monitor: Init at 0.1.0.0 → https://git.io/JTfvy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn pushed to master « nix-output-monitor: Init at 0.1.0.0 (#100102) »: https://git.io/JTfU5
<totom> i'm trying to fix the dynamic dependencies of an executable for it to run on nixos
<totom> with patchelf --print-needed i got the foolowing dependencies: libm.so.6, libc.so.6 and ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
<totom> how can i get their path in the current nix environment?
<hyperfekt> anyone here using ZoL 2.0.0?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #100099 → pyhton3Packages.ibis-framework: fix tests for pandas 1.1 → https://git.io/JTvbh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTfTe
<hyperfekt> oh it exists as zfsunstable, yay
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #100095 → treewide: don't use spidermonkey attr → https://git.io/JTvS7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JTfIt
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<dstzd> when does it look like 20.09 going to land?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tfmoraes opened pull request #100106 → python3Package.gdcm: 3.0.7 -> 3.0.8 → https://git.io/JTfIB
<gchristensen> anyone noticing a bunch of " lvm2-activation-generator: lvmconfig failed
<gchristensen> ?
<worldofpeace> dstzd: when https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects/4 is closed
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JTfI5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #100088 → oracleXE: remove → https://git.io/JTvEn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTfLU
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<Unode> hi all, I'm trying to package https://github.com/vagnum08/cpupower-gui and managed to get as far as https://gist.github.com/7afb22b244a169885ee0850a9188f6a2 which builds but I get https://gist.github.com/0f2457931898090ec30202b03afdc391 when I try to ./result/bin/cpupower-gui
<Unode> Am I missing something obvious?
<Unode> it's the first time I'm trying to package this kind of app
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<worldofpeace> Unode: the issue is `org.rnd2.cpupower_gui.helper` is a dbus service and it's not running
<worldofpeace> to make that work it has to be in systemPackages so the dbus module catches it
<worldofpeace> (I'm guessing this service comes from the package you've created)
<Unode> ah! yes, I belive so.
<Unode> giving it a try
<Unode> out of curiosity, is there any way to have this working without going via systemPackages?
<worldofpeace> Unode: look for the dbus service in the output. it will likely try to start a daemon of sorts. I believe if you run that manually in the terminal it will suffice
<worldofpeace> that being the executable referenced in the service file
<Unode> Since this package needs some super-user access I guess the dbus service is what allows running it as normal user while the root stuff runs via dbus
<Unode> ... my assumption at the moment
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @TredwellGit opened pull request #100110 → chromium: speed up build and enable system ffmpeg, libjpeg, and zlib → https://git.io/JTfqo
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<worldofpeace> Unode: from looking in the repo I also see a systemd service. looks hard to all run manually :D
<Unode> worldofpeace: didn't work. same error. and the dbus service is there https://dpaste.com/D25W599WQ
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<Unode> checking if it was picked up properly by systemd
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<worldofpeace> looks like it will try to install it to a wrong place without setting that option ^
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jappeace closed pull request #100107 → cut-the-crap: 1.4.2 Mark unbroken → https://git.io/JTfLk
<worldofpeace> Unode: by didn't work you mean, running manually, or systemPackages?
<Unode> I think I set that too. Let me see if I accidentally removed that line
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #100113 → gnomeExtensions.dash-to-dock: 2020-04-20 -> 69 → https://git.io/JTfmm
<Unode> I added it to systemPackages followed by nixos-rebuild switch . Then trying to launch as regular user.
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @samueldr opened pull request #614 → download.tt: KDE → Plasma → https://git.io/JTfmO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #100112 → nixos/gnome3: fix showing logout button → https://git.io/JTfms
<worldofpeace> Unode: btw, you don't need to set `--prefix` setup hook does stuff like that
<Unode> worldofpeace: ok removing that. I don't fully understand everything I wrote yet. Most was based on another meson package.
<worldofpeace> Unode: I believe you need to add it to `system.packages` because of lib/systemd/system/cpupower-gui-helper.service
<Unode> environment.systemPackages right?
<Unode> The service is now in /nix/store/k6c4aa99gmak0gn98wds87l04qlj14c1-cpupower-gui-0.8.0/lib/systemd/system/cpupower-gui-helper.service
<Unode> but doesn't seem like systemd is picking it up
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<Unode> checking what the manual says about systemd . Wondering if it's being installed to the wrong folder
<Unode> hum... the manual doesn't mention systemd at all. Odd
<Unode> (nixos manual)
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<Unode> ah no, wrong manual, was checking nixpkgs
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<Unode> can't seem to find the answer.
<Unode> Do I need to explicitly define a this systemd file as a service in a nixos module file?
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<Unode> worldofpeace: ah that's what you meant by systemd.packages sorry. I have never touched this.
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<worldofpeace> Unode: if in doubt about an option there's `man configuration.nix` and a local manual if enabled
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<worldofpeace> (also nixos.org option search)
<pinpox> Hi, I configured neovim like this in home-manager: https://gist.github.com/pinpox/8bb11b38c2ed8b72f3e1afac1d8f57b0 But it fails when calling functions from a plugin, vim-which-key.
<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr opened pull request #223 → razer-cheryl2: init → https://git.io/JTfOW
<pinpox> in the plugins.vim file, the command "call which_key#register(...)" failes, because it doesn't know the function
<pinpox> do I have to do anything special when using nix to install vim plugins to be able to call functions?
<Unode> worldofpeace: was not aware that configuration.nix had a manpage. Thanks for the tip!
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<pinpox> Can anyone help me out?
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<Unode> pinpox: sorry, don't have experience with home-manager
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @das-g opened pull request #100114 → xonsh: 0.9.22 -> 0.9.23 → https://git.io/JTf3L
<pinpox> Unode: the confusing thing is i don't know whether it's a home-manager problem or a vim configuration error, but it was working before with vim-plug
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<worldofpeace> pinpox: I believe there is a home-manager freenode channel
<pinpox> I think I got it, or at least worked around it
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<pinpox> packadd! vim-which-key seems to work to force loading the plugins at the correct time
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<Unode> worldofpeace: thanks for the pointers. You were right about system.packages. I now managed to get it to see the service. It gets launched when the program starts. It currently fails to launch because it uses a script in package/lib/... that imports python modules and these files are not (yet) wrapped. Trying to figure out how to do those.
<Unode> but making progress
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<worldofpeace> Unode: it doesn't seem to install things to the directory where python modules are loaded https://github.com/vagnum08/cpupower-gui/blob/dce2a5fe89d825d96e16116e7000c257c5b1e8a0/cpupower_gui/meson.build#L3
<Unode> wrapPythonProgramsIn $out/lib "$out $propagatedBuildInputs" seems to get that part sorted
<Unode> it now launches, success! but when I try to change the setting it tells me I don't have permissions
<Unode> So now trying to figure out if the dbus/systemd service needs special access.
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<worldofpeace> I see a `/var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/org.rnd2.cpupower-gui.pkla` which "allow sudo group to apply settings without authenticating". I think in nixos that would translate to the wheel group?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #100112 → nixos/display-managers: install sessionData.desktops → https://git.io/JTfms
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTfGd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to release-20.09 « nixos/display-managers: install sessionData.desktops »: https://git.io/JTfGx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to release-20.03 « nixos/display-managers: install sessionData.desktops »: https://git.io/JTfZv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #100116 → Pantheon fixups → https://git.io/JTfZg
<Unode> worldofpeace: https://github.com/vagnum08/cpupower-gui/blob/master/data/polkit/cpupower-gui.rules also lists wheel but needs polkit. I tried enabling it but still get the same error so not quite sure what's happening here.
<Unode> I am part of whell and have sudo access. If I "sudo cpupower-gui" everything works as expected.
<Unode> wheel*
<worldofpeace> Unode: so you need to add that rule with `environment.etc.""polkit-1/rules.d/cpupower-gui.rules".source = file`
<worldofpeace> tbh you shouldn't have to do that at all. and there could be `extraRules.packages`
<worldofpeace> don't bother with the localauthority file, that is a deprecated method IIRC
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