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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #100903 → Literate: 2019-01-01 -> unstable-2020-09-02 → https://git.io/JTCQ8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100904 → consul: 1.8.3 -> 1.8.4 → https://git.io/JTC7y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to freetype_2_10_3 « freetype: 2.10.2 -> 2.10.3 »: https://git.io/JTC75
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #100840 → amass: 3.10.3 -> 3.10.5 → https://git.io/JTcAf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « amass: 3.10.3 -> 3.10.5 »: https://git.io/JTC5I
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JTC5b
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100905 → cpp-utilities: 5.6.0 -> 5.7.0 → https://git.io/JTCd6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @KAction opened pull request #100906 → Openssh → https://git.io/JTCdS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle merged pull request #100869 → feh: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JTCRy
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to gnome-3.38 « Revert "folks: drop telepathy-glib" »: https://git.io/JTCNU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-burns opened pull request #100907 → [20.09] feh: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JTCNc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100908 → cppzmq: 4.6.0 -> 4.7.1 → https://git.io/JTCNR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100909 → croc: 8.5.0 -> 8.5.1 → https://git.io/JTCAO
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<pickfire> How come nixos is modiying the shell scripts to use /nix/store such that one of them is pointed at the wrong file?
<pickfire> I added two packages, lxde-common and lxsession.
<pickfire> But the startlxde in lxde-common is pointing to itself when calling lxsession, but not to lxsession/bin/lxsession.
<pickfire> Maybe the fixup phrase is wrongly done?
<nesevis> Excuse my ignorance — let's stay I've created a declarative container in my configuration.nix that uses a specific package. This package should be run as a service with provided parameters when the container boots. How would I declare the execution of the service?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100910 → dnsproxy: 0.32.0 -> 0.32.6 → https://git.io/JTCj7
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<DanP[m]> I'm using nixos and when I run `sudo nix-channel --list` it reports that I'm on `nixos https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-20.03`.
<DanP[m]> When I run it without sudo it reports nothing.
<DanP[m]> If I want `nix-env` to run on a different channel, do I just add it without sudo and nix will look there?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100911 → do-agent: 3.6.0 -> 3.7.1 → https://git.io/JTWeg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @austinbutler opened pull request #100912 → tangram: init at 1.3.1 → https://git.io/JTWex
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<evanjs> what's the typical fix for fixing ModuleNotFoundErrors (for the package I am building) inside the checkPhase?
<evanjs> like "Package A" cannot find "Package A" during "Package A"'s checkPhase
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100913 → doctl: 1.46.0 -> 1.48.1 → https://git.io/JTWv4
<infinisil> evanjs: Um, making sure the module is included? xD
<samueldr> that's just odd: ExecStop = pkgs.writeShellScript "stop-modem" "echo 0 > /sys/class/modem-power/modem-power/device/powered"; # works
<samueldr> and ExecStart = pkgs.writeShellScript "start-modem" "echo 1 > /sys/class/modem-power/modem-power/device/powered"; # hangs
<samueldr> BUT if I exec that shell script using sudo it works!
<samueldr> I wouldn't think echoing 0 would work if echoing 1 hangs
<evanjs> infinisil: but like -- that's the package I am building lol
<evanjs> e.g. Hydrus fails to find Hydrus during Hydrus' checkPhase :P
<infinisil> Ah
<infinisil> Should probably also mention that it's about python
<evanjs> oh good point lol
<infinisil> But I think you do this with PYTHON_PATH usually
<lopsided98> samueldr: It does that even when there is no BindsTo/WantedBy?
<infinisil> PYTHONPATH*
<samueldr> just now rebuilding to test without it lopsided98
<samueldr> the pinephone isn't a powerhouse :)
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<samueldr> coupled with bad wifi
<samueldr> bad wifi generally here, and the pinephone having not the best wifi hardware
<samueldr> okay no, works just fine without the after/bindsTo/wantedBy
<lopsided98> Why did you want BindsTo in the first place?
<samueldr> I'll reexplain the goal
<samueldr> (will help situate everyone)
<infinisil> evanjs: E.g. see development/tools/detect-secrets/default.nix
<samueldr> the modem in the pinephone is controlled via a /sys path, this is equivalent to turning it on/off completely
<samueldr> I want to make a more ergonomic interface, hopefully using systemd since systemd is right htere, where you can just `systemctl start $modem` and is starts, and `systemctl stop $modem` and it turns off
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100914 → dolt: 0.19.0 -> 0.21.0 → https://git.io/JTWft
<samueldr> when it turns on it's a usb device being connected, and well, disconnected when turned off
<pumpy> nixos running on pinephone?
<samueldr> though if I do a dumb oneshot service, sure it works, but the status of the service doesn't reflect the actual status of the modem!
<samueldr> it could be turned on/off manually via the sys fs path, or even turned off by other means (IIRC)
<samueldr> lopsided98: does that help understanding the problem?
<samueldr> pumpy: well, it _is_ just an A64 board with more fancyness around :)
<lopsided98> yeah, thanks
<samueldr> lopsided98: so basically I want the status of the service to reflect the presence of the hardware
<pumpy> samueldr ya i'd run it.
<pumpy> what about the power mgmt of pinephone that article said was sloppy and might end up with explosions and shit?
<lopsided98> samueldr: powering it off causes it to drop off the bus, right?
<samueldr> lopsided98: exactly
<samueldr> lopsided98: note that start/stop may take some time
<samueldr> but that's like not really an issue, once it's showing up it's started, once it disappears, it's gone
<samueldr> [about the pinephone] NixOS (and Mobile NixOS) isn't yet "useful" on it, but progressing, and mostly the usefulness will soon be about general "PE" (phone environment, like desktop environment) porting wokr
<samueldr> work*
<samueldr> though the power management and stuff article was seen, and I was already working on using megi's (author of said article) linux fork
<samueldr> so it's not really a NixOS issue at that point
<pickfire> Why is nix fixup not checking if the output binary exists?
<evanjs> infinisil: ah, I needed $src instead of $PWD
<evanjs> same syntax you linked tho
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<lopsided98> samueldr: Is is always powered on at boot? So you need the service to start itself to reflect that state?
<pumpy> samueldr huh interesting. can't wait to try it out whenever it's ready
<samueldr> lopsided98: it could be, not a guarantee
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100915 → doppler: 3.10.3 -> 3.15.0 → https://git.io/JTWfo
<pumpy> would be nice to "provision" a system to a new pinephone
<samueldr> lopsided98: and the more important bit to me is that it could be started/stopped outside of the purview of systemd
<pumpy> right from a desktop that's nixos
<pickfire> startlxde modify /usr/bin/lxsession to /nix/store/...lxde-common.../bin/lxsession in a shell script when building lxde-common but that does not exist, it exists in lxsession.
<pumpy> maybe nixops could be expanded to not just datacenter/server, but general devices
<pumpy> deviceOps
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<lordcirth> pumpy, well, there are switches that run Debian
<samueldr> lopsided98: well, that's basically the same answer I think, at any point in time it might have been started or stopped, and systemd would need to reflect that or I need to not-systemd
<pumpy> like apple integrates everything, but not opaque and tightly coupled
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<samueldr> pumpy: many end-users use nixops to manage their multiple machines
<lopsided98> It really does seem like WantedBy and BindsTo should be the right solution. If the modem was started or stopped outside of systemd, then the ExecStart or ExecStop scripts should be no-ops.
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<samueldr> lopsided98: I also had After, will try without
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> if it's after the device unit shows up... it can't start it, thus hangs?
<samueldr> (duh)
<evanjs> infinisil: "# we run the tests on the Qt thread atm # keep a window alive the whole time so the app doesn't finish its mainloop"
<evanjs> lol nvm
<evanjs> it uses a window so.... ok nope :P
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<lopsided98> samueldr: I'm not sure I follow. If the dependent unit is already started it should just continue.
<samueldr> lopsided98: the modem is off, the device unit is not present, so trying to start modem-control (the service that starts the modem) would hang until the modem is present, which it won't because the script never started
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<lopsided98> oh I see
<lopsided98> Its not clear to me from the documentation that removing After will fix that, but we'll see
<samueldr> well, it worked in that now it doesn't hang and starts the service, which starts the modem...
<samueldr> ... but the modem is stopping... which I'm not sure is relevant to systemd services stuff
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<pickfire> Can I know where does nix build keep the failed files at?
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<samueldr> lopsided98++ thanks it now works infinisil++ for earlier rubber ducking
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<pickfire> Also, how do I know what variables are available at a certain point of time during the build?
<samueldr> will clean and show soon
<samueldr> both ways work; controlling outside systemd marks the modem-control correctly, controlling with systemd (obviously?) works
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100916 → drawio: 13.7.3 -> 13.7.9 → https://git.io/JTWJu
<pickfire> Ah, it mentioned where is the failed build directory.
<pickfire> There is also env-vars file.
<pumpy> homemanager uses ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix so does that mean nixos follows the xdg dir spec?
<pickfire> pumpy: No
<pickfire> nixos is not related
<pickfire> It's home-manager that follows xdg dir spec.
<pumpy> ok ty. does nix team make home manager?
<pickfire> pumpy: Not sure, rycee is the one that makes it, not sure if he/she is in nix team.
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<evanjs> I mean, rycee is on the committers list, so technically speaking, yes *shrugs*
<evanjs> there's also a nixos module which makes it _really_ powerful if you integrate home-manager with your nixos config
<pickfire> evanjs: Which one?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100917 → dua: 2.10.2 -> 2.10.3 → https://git.io/JTWUE
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<pumpy> ya which one
<pumpy> is ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix in exactly the same format that configuration.nix is? where you start with {config, pkgs, ...}: etc
<evanjs> which what? I mean the literal nixos module for home-manager lol
<pumpy> evanjs by integrate with nixos config do you mean the first snippets at https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Home_Manager ?
<evanjs> pumpy: yes, that's referring to the nixos module
<evanjs> being able to use both of them together is great
<pumpy> evanjs is it still integrating home manager with nixos config if i use ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix?
<pumpy> because i'd rather user level stuff not go into the system configuration.nix
<evanjs> pumpy: right like depending on what you're doing, it should be fine
<pumpy> k ty
<pumpy> anyone know of an example home.nix i could look at?
<evanjs> I'd link my config for examples but it's a huge undocumented mess lol https://github.com/evanjs/nixos_cfg/
<pickfire> pumpy: Doesn't seemed so.
<pumpy> pickfire what doesn't seem so?
<pumpy> evanjs no joke
<pickfire> evanjs: Same for me, I rather not let user level stuff go into system configuration.nix.
<evanjs> pumpy: there are some examples here https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Home_Manager#Examples
<pumpy> ahh
<pickfire> I don't want all users to use my config which they don't know how.
<pickfire> > 11:01 <pumpy> is ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix in exactly the same format that configuration.nix is? where you start with {config, pkgs, ...}: etc
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<pumpy> pickfire so when you use homemgr you use the home.nix in ~?
<pumpy> why isn't home.nix same format as configuration.nix?
<evanjs> pickfire: pumpy: yeah if you mean secrets then sure, but that's the reason using home-manager from nixos is helpful lol
<pickfire> pumpy: ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix
<pumpy> not even just secrets, but logical separation
<pickfire> evanjs: Not secrets.
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<evanjs> like, you can assign -- home-manager.users.programs.lsd.enable = true
<pickfire> But no one in my house can use dvorak.
<pickfire> And dwm.
<evanjs> right and that's what home-manager helps _solve_
<pickfire> If they log in to their account, they cannot use then.
<evanjs> you'd assign that to your user lol
<evanjs> doesn't matter if it's in the system config if you assign it through the nixos module for home-manager
<pickfire> Yes, that's why I feel sad to hear "drop multi-user support".
<pumpy> if i put my user stuff in ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix, do i have to add anything to configuration.nix to make nixos look in my ~ for the home manager home.nix?
<pickfire> evanjs: But I don't think the users know how to edit the files.
<pickfire> I mean most of them are normal users.
<evanjs> pickfire: right, and the defaults would be the system level stuff
<pumpy> pickfire home manager's dropping multi user support?
<pickfire> pumpy: No, I saw in one of the talk saying to drop multi user support in nixos (just wishing).
<pumpy> wtf
<pickfire> But yeah, hopefully it never happened.
<pumpy> seems like a weird idea
<pickfire> Exactly.
<pickfire> There is also someone else beside me that agrees.
<lordcirth> Sounds like some people only use NixOS in server containers and don't care about other use cases
<pumpy> i know that most servers don't have 1000 shell accounts on them anymore, but the multi user/system sharing model is obviously useful
<pickfire> True.
<pumpy> even phones and shit should have it, for session isolation
<pickfire> My home laptops are usually multi-users.
<pumpy> lordcirth hopefully those narcissists never control nixos's future
<pickfire> Sometimes they just want to use a laptop but I cannot afford to let them use my user since all the keys are changed.
<pumpy> ya mine too
<pickfire> pumpy: But yeah, nixos is already pretty tweak in such a way.
<pumpy> like i have user accounts that run automated stuff that has different sudoers rules than the user account i use
<pickfire> Like xscreensaver built in?
<pickfire> I don't know why is that.
<pumpy> to catch fat fingers etc
<pumpy> pickfire ya it's tweak but it doesn't REMOVE any fundamentally useful tech
<pickfire> But it ADDS fundamentally unuseful tech.
<pumpy> what does?
<pickfire> Screens does not need to be save.
<pickfire> It's just wasting my CPU cycles doing the weird rotations or matrix.
<pickfire> Making my CPU hot, reducing its lifetime.
<pumpy> ya no clue why a screensaver would be bundled with a bare nixos
<pickfire> I wish I could throw away the screensaver.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100918 → elementary-planner: 2.4.6 -> 2.5.4 → https://git.io/JTWTF
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<pickfire> Ah, it's built in to lxqt. Shit.
<pickfire> T_T
<pickfire> Bad defaults if I would say.
<pickfire> pumpy: By the way, are you still playing with nix in a vm or your current distro or on a new nixos installation?
<lordcirth> pickfire, did lxqt get fixed then? Last I checked it was all black (theme paths were borked)
<pickfire> lordcirth: Yeah, it is usable until certain commit.
<pickfire> 10 days ago it broke.
<pickfire> 11 days*
<pickfire> lordcirth: If any, I am now adding lxde.
<pickfire> I have quite bad experience with lxqt.
<lordcirth> I've been using xfce, it's been working perfectly
<lordcirth> Well, except there's a recent bug where xfwm slows down and has to be restarted
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100919 → elixir: 1.10.4 -> 1.11.1 → https://git.io/JTWkW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #100904 → consul: 1.8.3 -> 1.8.4 → https://git.io/JTC7y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTWkz
<pickfire> lordcirth: xfce is quite heavy for me I think, I am low on disk space.
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<lordcirth> pickfire, how low?
<pickfire> lordcirth: 8GB
<pickfire> 1.5GB already went to nixpkgs
<pickfire> git repo*
<lordcirth> wow - you running off an old USB stick?
<pickfire> No, VM.
<pickfire> That's also the standard size for raspberry pi.
<lordcirth> Ah. VPS?
<pickfire> No, my laptop.
<pickfire> QEMU/KVM
<lordcirth> Why not just give it 16GB then?
<pickfire> I am trying nixos out if I want to use it for my new laptop.
<pickfire> lordcirth: Why should I?
<pickfire> I originally gave it 4GB.
<pickfire> But not enough, I don't want to use a system that randomly waste space, next time I want to use it on a pi maybe.
<pickfire> My pi is 8GB.
<pickfire> But yeah, I installed quite a bit of stuff, lxqt, firefox.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100920 → embree: 3.12.0 -> 3.12.1 → https://git.io/JTWLG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100921 → enchant: 2.2.11 -> 2.2.12 → https://git.io/JTWLh
<siraben> Does anyone know if Nix has something analogous? https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/guix-further-reduces-bootstrap-seed-to-25/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100922 → ephemeral: 6.4.1 -> 7.0.4 → https://git.io/JTWt2
<siraben> Does edolstra hang around here? I'm wondering about https://github.com/edolstra/nixpkgs/commit/800bd373c0958d3fda355df9d1d0a49eea5815c8
<drakonis> he certainly does
<siraben> What's his nick?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100923 → ergo: 3.3.3 -> 3.3.4 → https://git.io/JTWql
<pickfire> Oh, how come nixos default console font is so nice?
<pickfire> Compared to arch, maybe it's in VM?
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<drakonis> siraben: you should perhaps ask it in #nixos-dev
<drakonis> pickfire: is it?
<siraben> drakonis: Thanks
<drakonis> its terminus
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<pickfire> Arch default is not so nice, not terminus at least.
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<pickfire> By the way, anyone here have experience packaging desktop managers in nixos?
<pickfire> I packaged lxde but I get an issue saying "Failed to start session", I don't know where to start checking for errors.
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<DigitalKiwi> nixos with low disk space is not going to be a pleasant experience
<DigitalKiwi> my pi used to have 32GB cards and it's "ok" but not fun...have to gc a lot
<pickfire> 32GB is huge, I only have 14GB right now but I used 500MB for root.
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<pickfire> 14GB for pi.
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<pickfire> But right now I can get nixos working but I don't know how to get lxde that I just packaged working.
<pickfire> Not gc issue.
<pickfire> I did gc many times already.
<DigitalKiwi> i use 128GB cards now :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100925 → fastmod: 0.4.0 -> 0.4.1 → https://git.io/JTWY5
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<pickfire> Wow, won't those be expensive?
<pickfire> I rather not buy new cards as I already have it.
<DigitalKiwi> define expensive
<pickfire> But my pi don't need to install all those x11 stuff so...
<pickfire> $5?
<pickfire> $10 is expensive for cards
<pickfire> But $5 - $8 is normal I guess? I don't buy them often so maybe I might be a bit off.
<DigitalKiwi> for how big of card though?
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<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: 16GB
<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: But why do you need so much space on your pi?
<DigitalKiwi> when i buy 32GB cards i get 5 of them for ~33
<DigitalKiwi> Purchased 4 times.
<DigitalKiwi> You last purchased this item on August 23, 2020.
<DigitalKiwi> Capacity: 32GB x 5
<DigitalKiwi> lol
<pickfire> Wow
<DigitalKiwi> mvp_zroot/NIX/nix 66.9G 440G 66.9G legacy
<DigitalKiwi> because /nix/store takes a lot of space
<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: How is a lot?
<pickfire> My /nix/store is only 2.5 GB.
<DigitalKiwi> wait a while
<pickfire> Ah, local store sells $4 for 32GB.
<pickfire> I just checked, my price was maybe old.
<pickfire> I mean ecommerce*
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<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: Heh, cheaper here.
<DigitalKiwi> those used to be 31.30 :(
<pickfire> $4 * 5 = $20 heh
<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: Do you include shipping?
<DigitalKiwi> that price is including shipping before tax (7%)
<pickfire> Oh, shopping fee is $1.
<pickfire> But we don't have tax for ecommerce stuff yet.
<pickfire> $21 for 5 32GB, heh still cheaper than the one you found $31.
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<DigitalKiwi> but i don't know how much i'd trust those?
<DigitalKiwi> i've never had a problem with these samsung and they perform well
<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: But the one I found is SanDisk Memory Card Ultra A1 16GB /32GB /64GB /128GB MicroSD Memory Card 100MB/s SDSQUAR
<pickfire> But I don't use amazon, no one use amazon here.
<pickfire> Probably
<pickfire> Amazon is probably less popular than taobao here.
<DigitalKiwi> i would rather not use amazon :(
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bcdarwin opened pull request #100926 → [20.09] elastix: 5.0.0 -> 5.0.1; unbreak OS X build → https://git.io/JTW3I
<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: By the way, do you know stuff about desktop manager?
<DigitalKiwi> not really
<DigitalKiwi> other than that they reverted that change that broke you the other day :)
<pickfire> Oh is it?
<pickfire> Nice
<pickfire> I didn't know.
<pickfire> broke me haha
<pickfire> DigitalKiwi: No, it probably wasn't fixed upstream.
<pickfire> I still got the same issue after --upgrade-all
<DigitalKiwi> it might not have hit the channel yet
<DigitalKiwi> it was definitely reverted i saw it
<siraben> What does specifying system in `with import <nixpkgs> { system = "i686-linux"; };` do? Cross-compilation?
<siraben> I thought the attr was `crossSystem`
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<pickfire> Yeah, I saw it too.
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<DigitalKiwi> anyway unless you run off of a git checkout it takes a while for changes to get to the channel
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<dsal> Is this a reasonable way to do what I'm trying to do here? nix-shell -p openscad --run 'open -W $buildInputs/Applications/OpenSCAD.app'
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<dsal> or: How do I resolve the installed path for the thing I specifie dwith the -p there?
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<pjt_tmp> dsal: do you know that $buildInputs is available at the time? does the env command show it?
<dsal> The command works. I just looked through the env to find something that at least made a connection. I feel like there's a more right way to do this.
<dsal> The problem is that it has an executable, but not like, a unix executable. It's a mac executable which works differently and isn't placed on the path.
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<dsal> Woah, I just found out it *does* do some magic.
<dsal> Oh, no, it accidentally works.
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<pjt_tmp> and here I was just suggesting something because it _sounded_ right-ish. Huh.
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<dsal> I don't know nix well enough to understand how this magic is meant to work. What I really want is something like nix-shell -p openscad --run 'open -W ${pkgs.openscad}/Appliations/Openscad.app' -- but that's not valid.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #100916 → drawio: 13.7.3 -> 13.7.9 → https://git.io/JTWJu
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-20.03-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/8fa9a8aa022 (from 3 days ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-20.03-darwin)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100927 → faudio: 20.09 -> 20.10 → https://git.io/JTWWc
<pjt_tmp> dsal: yeah, that doesn't look right. Nix is meant to be as deterministic as possible and and */Applications/* sounds very mac-ish
<pjt_tmp> I mean I guess you already know that if you're using one
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<pjt_tmp> still, this is part of the ol' rubber duck method or whatever it's called
<dsal> heh. nix-shell -p [somepackage] --run 'commandfrompackage' works because it puts the bin from the package in the path. .app is no less deterministic than any other artifact. It's just not obvious how to get to it.
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<pjt_tmp> dsal: Hm. could you just drop into a shell and poke around to find it? use silver searcher or some other bespoke tool?
<dsal> I've already found it as mentioned above. I just want a less dumb way to launch an app like I do with CLI apps.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100928 → findomain: 2.1.3 -> 2.1.4 → https://git.io/JTW8d
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @austinbutler opened pull request #100931 → python3Packages.google_cloud_texttospeech: fix build → https://git.io/JTWB8
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<typetetris> Why should I use `fetchFromGitLab` over `fetchTarball` or `fetchurl` ?
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<typetetris> or `fetchGit`
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<pjt_tmp> typetetris: makes it more clear what you're doing, makes it slightly easier to update nix files by just changing the relevant fields.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100932 → flow: 0.133.0 -> 0.136.0 → https://git.io/JTWRs
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<typetetris> Seems like I want a builtin. Is fetchGit or fetchurl "better"? I darkly remember , there have been issues with fetchGit cloning the whole depot needlessly? Was there something like that and is it still relevant?
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<pjt_tmp> not sure, unfortunately.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100934 → fly: 6.5.1 -> 6.6.0 → https://git.io/JTWEi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100935 → flyctl: 0.0.140 -> 0.0.144 → https://git.io/JTWu0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #100502 → ocamlformat: refactor → https://git.io/JTYua
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100936 → fondo: 1.3.9 -> 1.3.10 → https://git.io/JTWzg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryanorendorff opened pull request #100937 → agda standard-library: v1.3 -> v1.4 → https://git.io/JTWzS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #99683 → obs-ndi: 4.7.1 -> 4.9.1 → https://git.io/JUNkk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #100920 → embree: 3.12.0 -> 3.12.1 → https://git.io/JTWLG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTWg7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-20.09 « Merge #98415: wordnet: Fix darwin build »: https://git.io/JTWgb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #98415 → wordnet: Fix darwin build → https://git.io/JUuhy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100938 → frp: 0.34.0 -> 0.34.1 → https://git.io/JTW2L
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100939 → fselect: 0.6.10 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JTWae
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100940 → ft2-clone: 1.31 -> 1.36 → https://git.io/JTWa5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 2 commits to release-20.09: https://git.io/JTWab
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat closed pull request #97783 → [20.09] can-isotp: 20180629 -> 20200910 → https://git.io/JUWSU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #93333 → julia: Remove version 0.7 and 1.1 → https://git.io/JJZCQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #100870 → brial: 1.2.8 -> 1.2.10 → https://git.io/JTCRx
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<pickfire> Why is nixos-rebuild test unpacking linux to /tmp/ and cause no space error? It is not using disk but ram instead.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100941 → gammy: 0.9.58a -> 0.9.59 → https://git.io/JTWw3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100942 → gauge: 1.1.3 -> 1.1.4 → https://git.io/JTWwh
<pjt_tmp> pickfire: something weird with your ram/zram settings maybe? If you're using /dev/shm you could give it more space
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 4 commits to release-20.09: https://git.io/JTWrJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #100432 → [20.09] python3Packages.perfplot: 0.5.0 -> 0.8.4, fix build by packaging new dependencies → https://git.io/JTqKi
<pjt_tmp> hmmm...maybe not. I don't see anything relevant looking in the options
<pickfire> pjt_tmp: /dev/shm?
<pickfire> Or maybe it is indeed using disk space, not quite sure if tmpfs is disk.
<pickfire> Oh, looks like it is disk, but how come df -h wasn't updated?
<pickfire> I just realized that nixos-rebuild with different nixpkgs (upgrade), running optimise-store can really save a lot of space.
<pjt_tmp> ayup
<pjt_tmp> be aware that it's a lotta disk work tho
<pickfire> But weird, why is it compiling the kernel.
<pjt_tmp> are you using nixos-unstable?
<pjt_tmp> or possibly there's a new stable one
<pickfire> pjt_tmp: Yeah
<pickfire> But the nixos-unstable is broke for me.
<pickfire> broken*
<pickfire> Git HEAD works but nixos-unstable wasn't updated yet.
<pjt_tmp> here's a thing:
<pjt_tmp> ls -1 /nix/store/ | grep -oE 'linux-[0-9].[0-9]{1,2}.[0-9]{1,2}' | sort | uniq -c
<pickfire> Ah, no wonder.
<pjt_tmp> ^ may help. Helps me find problems sometimes
<pickfire> Oh, I have 3 linux versions.
<pickfire> Ah, why is hydra builds broken. T_T
<pickfire> So I believe I need to wait for unstable to be updated then.
<pjt_tmp> maybe yeah
<pjt_tmp> Although that script also captures things that are not kernel paths
<pjt_tmp> add .* to the end of the regex to see for sure
<pickfire> I shouldn't have updated, sad now I need to unshallow nixpkgs git repo.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100943 → gerbera: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.4 → https://git.io/JTWrx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100945 → gitoxide: 0.4.0 -> 0.4.3 → https://git.io/JTWKr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/JTWK5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #98191 → nvidia_x11: 2020.09 - 2020.10 → https://git.io/JU0qk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JTW6C
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #99437 → p11-kit: fix tests when non-root → https://git.io/JUQBf
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<flip[m]> I'm trying to move /var/log to a different partition. I set up a bind mount which works until i reboot. It seems initramfs only mounts root partition so the bind mount fails. Any ideas of the best way to solve this?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pickfire opened pull request #100947 → gtk+: refactor name → https://git.io/JTWiT
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<DigitalKiwi> flip[m]: did you add the mount to your configuration?
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<DigitalKiwi> fileSystems."/nix" = { device = "/dev/disk/by-label/nix"; neededForBoot = true; options = [ "noatime" ]; };
<flip[m]> i didn't have neededForBoot, maybe that'll help :p
<DigitalKiwi> that's what i have after moving /nix to block storage
<clever> if neededForBoot is missing, it will do the bind mount much later in the boot process
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100948 → go-jira: 1.0.24 -> 1.0.27 → https://git.io/JTWi4
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<flip[m]> well it seemed to do the bind mount early enough (but before the target partition was mounted)
<flip[m]> but i'll give this a try on the target partition
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 4 commits to staging: https://git.io/JTWPo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #100058 → [staging] unbound: 1.11.0 -> 1.12.0 → https://git.io/JTemD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #99987 → [staging] openssl: 1.1.1g -> 1.1.1h → https://git.io/JUhOY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100950 → go-protobuf: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/JTWP1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xfix closed pull request #100817 → linux: 5.8.15 -> 5.8.16 → https://git.io/JTcl7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JTWXK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #99698 → zeromq: 4.3.2 -> 4.3.3 → https://git.io/JUNBW
<flip[m]> that seemed to do the trick. Thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle closed pull request #99516 → pythonPackages.Theano: set NIX_ENFORCE_PURITY=0 for invocation of wrapped compiler → https://git.io/JU5TI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AtnNn opened pull request #100953 → Implement splitString using builtins.split → https://git.io/JTWMx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100954 → gpac: 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 → https://git.io/JTWDG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #100955 → [20.09] pythonPackages.pymc3: fix build, init pythonPackages.fastprogress at 1.0.0 → https://git.io/JTWDn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle merged pull request #100907 → [20.09] feh: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JTCNc
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<bew> Hello, anyone tried to install and use Nix on a Synology NAS ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn merged pull request #100591 → make-desktopitem: name was being used instead of desktopName → https://git.io/JT3w4
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<LnL> bew: yep, don't use it actively but I have nix installed on there
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #100761 → iproute: 5.8.0 -> 5.9.0 → https://git.io/JTnG4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to staging « iproute: 5.8.0 -> 5.9.0 (#100761) »: https://git.io/JTWQM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #100877 → [staging] coreutils: 8.31 -> 8.32 → https://git.io/JTCVR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100962 → heimer: 1.19.0 -> 1.20.0 → https://git.io/JTW5T
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<pingiun> I am deploying a django package to my server via nixops. I built the derivation on my local machine, which has macos, and deploying on a linux machine. how is it possible that nixops is just copying my macos closure to my server? obviously the python package built on macos won't run on linux
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<pingiun> and is there a way I could circumvent this?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100963 → helmfile: 0.130.1 -> 0.131.0 → https://git.io/JTWdB
<Orbstheorem> Hi o/, How can I replace a non-flake input with a local clone of a repo when running `nix build` ?
<rnhmjoj> pinguin: uhm, if it's a simple python package i would expect it to be platform independent, though i have never tried this
<rnhmjoj> *pingiun: oh sorry
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<rnhmjoj> i should never try to type out nicknames
<pingiun> haha
<pingiun> the python package should be platform independent, yes, but nixops is copying the whole clusure
<pingiun> including python3.9
<pingiun> rnhmjoj: I'm trying to run this helios-gunicorn on my server: helios-gunicorn = pkgs.writeScriptBin "helios-gunicorn" ''
<pingiun> then I builtins.fetchTarball that repo in my nixos config and import it
<pingiun> nixops chooses to copy the whole closure because I already built that source on my macos machine
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<rnhmjoj> pkgs.python3 should definitely be different because darwin and linux have different binary formats. how do you know it's being copied? did you see inside the /nix/store on the remote machine?
<pingiun> I see "blazeit> copying closure..." in nixops output
<pingiun> and when I try to run it, it complains about the exec format
<pingiun> and when I check the format, it tells me it's a Mach binary
<pingiun> oh wait copying closure is the system closure
<pingiun> I'm not actually sure then
<pingiun> but I'm wondering how a Mach binary ends up on my linux server
<pickfire> Ah, nixpkgs-update is different from what I thought.
<pickfire> I thought it automatically finds newer versions for all the packages.
<Orbstheorem> Btw, has anyone tried using nix with binary bsps in embedded systems?
<Orbstheorem> (samueldr maybe ^^")
<pickfire> How come nix does not have gtk2 for vte?
<pickfire> Is gtk2 being destroyed for nix?
<pickfire> Or maybe there isn't gtk2 at all?
<rnhmjoj> pingiun: i'm not a nixops user but i skimmed through the issues and noticed a few about deploying from darwin. it looks like you have to tell nixops the architecture of the remote
<pickfire> Ah, there isn't anymore.
<pickfire> No wonder.
<simpson> pickfire: I'm not an expert, but it looks like even the "old" VTE 2.90 is built with GTK+3. What were you hoping to do?
<pingiun> rnhmjoj: I do have nixpkgs.localSystem.system = "x86_64-linux";
<pingiun> ah I see
<pingiun> lemme try
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<pickfire> simpson: No, even arch does not have lxterminal-gtk3.
<pickfire> I guess lxterminal only have gtk3.
<pickfire> Since vte have gtk3, not gtk2.
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<pickfire> Just wondering, how is the nix packages usually being updated? Is it automated?
<simpson> pickfire: Don't worry too much about Arch or other distros. We have a lot of packages, but the tradeoff is that we typically only have one or two versions of each package.
<pickfire> simpson: But arch is also the same right?
<simpson> A massive number of packages are automatically updated using a couple bots, but many packages are also updated by hand.
<pickfire> Except there is archlinuxcn which provides a whole tons of packages.
<pingiun> rnhmjoj: that issue is very helpful, thanks
<pickfire> Does the bot covers all the packages or which part are not covered?
<pingiun> because I am importing nixpkgs manually
<simpson> Arch is extremely different from NixOS. (NixOS is extremely different from most other distros.) I don't know how Arch packages VTE, but it's probably not the same way that we package it.
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<simpson> It varies by language and ecosystem. For example, we import Stackage, a collection of Haskell packages, fully automatically; meanwhile, most of the Python tree is hand-maintained.
<rnhmjoj> pingiun: ah, you have to set the `system` for the imported nixpkgs as well, right?
<pingiun> rnhmjoj: yes, that seems to be my problem
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<pingiun> so now I'm figuring out how to string this value through so it keeps working on macos too
<pickfire> simpson: How about rust packages or random packages like x11 stuff?
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<simpson> pickfire: I think that we update Xorg's package collection all at once, semi-automatically. Rust is happening, but there's still a lot of churn due to compiler versions; I keep putting off learning more about it, and maybe I should stop doing that.
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<simpson> pickfire: If your overall query is "is nixpkgs really that big?" then I usually point people to https://repology.org/graph/map_repo_size_fresh.svg as a way of saying yes.
<pickfire> No, I did saw that nixpkgs is big.
<pickfire> But I am surprised that something simple like lxde is not there.
<pickfire> So I am adding it.
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<simpson> An entire desktop environment? Might not be "simple". Good luck.
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<pingiun> rnhmjoj: overriding the system does fix it for my linux machine, so that's cool. thanks!
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<rnhmjoj> pingiun: great! glad you found a solution
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100944 → gifski: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.2 → https://git.io/JTWor
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<{^_^}> [nix] @roberth opened pull request #4158 → Issue 3964 substitution loop → https://git.io/JTWA1
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<pickfire> simpson: I built the core already.
<pickfire> I thought it wasn't working since it was black.
<pickfire> But it was actually black, I forgot there are no background and no panel.
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<pickfire> simpson: Heh, or maybe I open a channel to do package lxde?
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<simpson> You could probably do it in a series of PRs.
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<pickfire> simpson: How nix handle removing options? I wanted to drop someone else package.
<pickfire> I wish I could send it in one PR.
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<simpson> pickfire: I'm not sure what you mean. You probably should build upon, not remove, the existing lxde packages.
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<pickfire> simpson: The current lxde packages is not pkgs.lxde.*, but pkgs.lxterminal as such.
<pickfire> It should be pkgs.lxde.lxterminal
<pickfire> Like xfce and lxqt.
<simpson> Sure. To avoid breaking existing configuration, you'll have something like `lxde = { ... lxterminal = callPackage ...; ... }; lxterminal = lxde.lxterminal; # alias for backwards compat`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm closed pull request #100882 → catch: 1.12.2 -> 3.0.0-preview3 → https://git.io/JTCrc
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<pickfire> Ah
<pickfire> simpson++ thanks, good idea
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<Raito_Bezarius> infinisil: do you know if it's easy to redeploy {^_^} in another channel?
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<infinisil> Raito_Bezarius: If it's a Nix-related channel, you can ask gchristensen to add the bot there
<betaboon> is firefoxes kiosk mode broken on wayland ? oO
<infinisil> As he runs the {^_^} nick that my bot code connects to
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100951 → go-tools: 2020.1.5 -> 2020.1.6 → https://git.io/JTWXo
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<Raito_Bezarius> infinisil: it's on another IRC server
<Raito_Bezarius> it's a Nix-related channel though
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100952 → gotestsum: 0.5.3 -> 0.5.4 → https://git.io/JTWM9
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<Raito_Bezarius> gchristensen: ^ — wonder if you can do it or I can just run {^_^} on my IRC server
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100945 → gitoxide: 0.4.0 -> 0.4.3 → https://git.io/JTWKr
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<Raito_Bezarius> (whatever is simplest for you folx)
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<Raito_Bezarius> ah okay, sounds like the deployment method is not totally trivial
<Raito_Bezarius> gchristensen: if I could have more information on how to deploy using NixOS the RabbitMQ broker, that'd be awesome
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100943 → gerbera: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.4 → https://git.io/JTWrx
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<infinisil> Raito_Bezarius: It's on my todo list to rewrite my bot as a simple IRC client
<Raito_Bezarius> hehe
<infinisil> Not a big fan of relying on rabbitmq for this
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<Raito_Bezarius> True™ :p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100940 → ft2-clone: 1.31 -> 1.36 → https://git.io/JTWa5
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<gchristensen> it is a bit annoying having irc bots join / part a lot during dev, which is sort of the norm for bots, but you can also get the same by handing FDs around during re-execs, and also through something like znc as a proxy
<gchristensen> but again, the bot has several pieces of software serving different functions... maybe znc would still have worked fine... but it is also nice to be able to send messages with simple POSTs
<Raito_Bezarius> is there instructions to redeploy the same setup?
<gchristensen> no
<Raito_Bezarius> is this something that I can easily reproduce using NixOS?
<Raito_Bezarius> e.g. take a RabbitMQ broker then link it to something something with IRC
<gchristensen> not even sure the current source is pushed anywhere :x ... that said, I'd like to hand it off and have {^_^} run by a group of people so it isn't just me
<Raito_Bezarius> I heard today was a hackday :-°
<Raito_Bezarius> If you could push any source somewhere or even a nix expr that you use for this, please ping me, I'm super interested in
<Raito_Bezarius> As for running {^_^} — I'd be interested, but I don't know what it entail and as I'm not in the NixOS Foundation or org, I'm not sure if I can qualify
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<gchristensen> I've got baby-arms but let me see what I can do
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<pickfire> Why do people use withGtk3 rather than gtk = gtk3?
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<exarkun> I've started to get "error: stoull" / "error: unexpected EOF reading a line" from various nix commands
<exarkun> maybe since I upgraded to a more recent nixpkgs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100930 → flannel: 0.12.0 -> 0.13.0 → https://git.io/JTW4F
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<exarkun> rolling back to the previous generation makes it go away, anyhow
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<Raito_Bezarius> gchristensen: it's definitely not an emergency
<Raito_Bezarius> so please take care of you and your family :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100764 → eksctl: 0.27.0 -> 0.30.0 → https://git.io/JTnnX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlqm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #100977 → python3Packages.pytest-trio: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.0 → https://git.io/JTlq8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yevhenshymotiuk opened pull request #100978 → python3Packages.pipx: 0.15.5.1 -> 0.15.6.0 → https://git.io/JTlqz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100979 → influxdb: 1.8.2 -> 1.8.3 → https://git.io/JTlqr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #100972 → freecad: add missing python package → https://git.io/JTlfR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlmc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed to release-20.09 « freecad: add missing python module for addon manager »: https://git.io/JTlm2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @devhell opened pull request #100980 → mp3gain: Fix vulnerabilities → https://git.io/JTlmw
<tsruser> ,channels
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100981 → intermodal: 0.1.11 -> 0.1.12 → https://git.io/JTlmN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100982 → j4-dmenu-desktop: 2.17 -> 2.18 → https://git.io/JTl3T
<Cadey> i'm a part of the libvirtd group but i'm not able to connect to libvirtd with virt-manager, what am i doing wrong?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100983 → jackett: 0.16.1670 -> 0.16.1757 → https://git.io/JTl3F
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<tobiasBora> Hello, I'm trying to run a software that requires opencl in a steam-run environment, but it fails: clinfo works outside steam-run but fails inside. Any idea how to solve that issue? For poeple interested, I enabled hardware.opengl.extraPackages = with pkgs; [ intel-ocl ]; and I run steam-run using nix-build -E "with import <nixpkgs> {}; (steam.override {extraPkgs = pkgs: [ocl-icd gnome3.librsvg
<tobiasBora> clinfo]; }).run", then I run steam-run bash, then clinfo.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100984 → jdupes: 1.18.2 -> 1.19.0 → https://git.io/JTls4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @devhell opened pull request #100985 → mediainfo{-gui}: 20.08 -> 20.09 → https://git.io/JTlsM
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<Reventlov> Hey, I'm trying to set the group of my uinput to be able to access it as my user
<Reventlov> But it fails (wrong group): https://0x0.st/iDBy.txt
<Reventlov> any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Laserath opened pull request #100986 → adding logging option for xrdp → https://git.io/JTlGM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100987 → joker: 0.15.6 -> 0.15.7 → https://git.io/JTlZW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @basvandijk opened pull request #100988 → Cherry-pick netaddr-0.8.0 upgrade on release-20.09 → https://git.io/JTlca
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #100989 → python3Packages.cassandra-driver: fix build by packaging new dependencies → https://git.io/JTlCl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100990 → kanboard: 1.2.15 -> 1.2.16 → https://git.io/JTlCy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #100991 → linuxPackages.nvidia_x11.persistenced: fix build → https://git.io/JTlCN
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<infinisil> And add your user to the uinput group
<Reventlov> hmm right now I was using the input group, let me try
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xfix opened pull request #100992 → [20.09] kdeApplications.kpat: restore → https://git.io/JTlWF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100993 → kbs2: 0.1.5 -> 0.1.6 → https://git.io/JTlWj
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<jophish> Ugh, netatalk pulls in X11 on my server :( https://gist.github.com/465c0d8c2bfecfe857edca90b4660315
<Reventlov> yeah it worked, infinisil, thanks
<infinisil> :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @winpat opened pull request #100994 → waypoint: init at 0.1.2 → https://git.io/JTl8k
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti pushed to master « Restructure the documentation. »: https://git.io/JTl8O
<gchristensen> jophish: yeah that is a thing, isn't it
<jophish> every time I upgrade I swear X11 creeps back in
<jophish> and takes days to build on my crappy server :(
<gchristensen> why do you need to build ?
<jophish> gchristensen: armv7l
<gchristensen> ouch
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100996 → kibi: 0.2.0 -> 0.2.1 → https://git.io/JTl8a
<evanjs> Yeah I feel like a more officially supported binary cache for that would help quite a few people -- just not sure how many
<evanjs> clever: I can't remember -- did you have some sort of arm binary cache, or how do you make that stuff less painful?
<gchristensen> maybe someday the armv7l builder will come back online
<jophish> I spent quite some time in the past getting the packet beefy machines to compile arm packages
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<jophish> but in the end all that yak shaving was too much
<clever> evanjs: i was just using qemu-user-arm to do "native" arm builds on my laptop
<jophish> better to just set the server to update and come back days later
<clever> evanjs: with an rpi4 helping out on occasion (but its currently unplugged)
<evanjs> If it's still compatible (somehow) maybe silicon might be a big motivator
<clever> it doesnt follow master, so it will be fairly behind
<jophish> the only problem is that when there's a build going on I just become glued to the progress bar :( very sad
<evanjs> clever: that makes sense
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<{^_^}> #100997 (by expipiplus1, 7 seconds ago, open): netatalk pulls in X11, even with environment.noXlibs
<clever> evanjs: in other news, i can now reflash a pi4 over usb, https://github.com/librerpi/rpi-tools/tree/master/webusbboot
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4158 → Fix substitution loop #3964, #3534 → https://git.io/JTWA1
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JTl4x
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100998 → kpt: 0.34.0 -> 0.35.0 → https://git.io/JTlBk
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4157 → doc: nix-shell in pure mode does *not* source user bashrc → https://git.io/JTWAG
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlBI
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4143 → Properly type the derivation and substitution goal maps → https://git.io/JTqKu
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 10 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlB8
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<infinisil> jophish: Note that noXLibs is just a manual blacklist
<infinisil> So it doesn't prevent all Xlib references
<jophish> Yeah, I get that :)
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<jophish> I guess pycairo needs to do the same thing as Cairo does
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<infinisil> Oh yeah looks like it
<pumpy> if i put my user stuff in ~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix, do i have to add anything to configuration.nix to make nixos look in my ~ for the home manager home.nix?
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<infinisil> pumpy: By default, NixOS doesn't interact with home-manager at all
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<pumpy> oh
<pumpy> so they run independently
<pumpy> is there a command like nixos-rebuild like home-rebuild?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #100999 → kube-router: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/JTlR7
<infinisil> pumpy: Have you read the home-manager readme?
<infinisil> Or the docs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee opened pull request #101000 → svtplay-dl: 2.6 -> 2.7 → https://git.io/JTlRj
<pumpy> no where is it pls?
<das_j> In the home-manager github repo
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<das_j> also: You can chat with us on IRC in the channel #home-manager on freenode.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #100836 → ledger-live-desktop: 2.9.0 -> 2.14.0 → https://git.io/JTcFs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlEB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #101001 → kubeseal: 0.12.5 -> 0.12.6 → https://git.io/JTlEg
<evanjs> pie_: okay Idk if I want to bother with cloudscraper support for the initial PR
<evanjs> It was fine until I hit the "need v8eval" thing 😝
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer closed pull request #92659 → dotnetCorePackages.sdk_3_1: 3.1.103 -> 3.1.301 → https://git.io/JJt7o
<evanjs> pie_: going to CC you and the other person once I open that PR so we can at least get it upstreamed for now
<pumpy> ty das_j!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #98644 → pythonPackages.accuweather: init at 0.0.11 → https://git.io/JU2EW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlEA
<pumpy> das_j++
<{^_^}> das_j's karma got increased to 4
<pumpy> infinisil++
<{^_^}> infinisil's karma got increased to 369
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #101002 → tflint: 0.20.2 -> 0.20.3 → https://git.io/JTluO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #101003 → python3Packages.datasette: minimize test time → https://git.io/JTlur
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100993 → kbs2: 0.1.5 -> 0.1.6 → https://git.io/JTlWj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTluP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #101004 → kubespy: 0.5.1 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JTluX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100987 → joker: 0.15.6 -> 0.15.7 → https://git.io/JTlZW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTluF
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<evanjs> Anybody have tips on https://github.com/sony/v8eval? Python + in-repo clang + CMake and 😵
<evanjs> Re the Python bindings btw -- not worried about the other languages atm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100981 → intermodal: 0.1.11 -> 0.1.12 → https://git.io/JTlmN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlzR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100983 → jackett: 0.16.1670 -> 0.16.1757 → https://git.io/JTl3F
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlzP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #101005 → lazygit: 0.23.2 -> 0.23.6 → https://git.io/JTlz9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #101006 → MIDIVisualizer: 5.1 -> 5.2 → https://git.io/JTlzQ
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<{^_^}> [rfcs] @7c6f434c opened pull request #78 → Initial version of RFC proposal → https://git.io/JTlgT
<__red__> When doing a nixos-rebuild, it is ignoring my users.users.red.uid = 1000;
<a-h> Hey folks, I'm trying to add plugins to tmux using `environment.systemPackages = [ pkgs.tmux pkgs.tmuxPlugins.open pkgs.tmuxPlugins.yank ]` but it makes no difference to the configuration at all, I'm still seeing standard tmux. I tried deleting my tmux configuration to see if that was overriding anything, but no change. There's a PR that suggests
<a-h> that all that's required is to install the packages, as I've done, and it talks about adding a line to the tmux conf, but not where that would be done and what that would look like at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/36790 - does anyone have any ideas or examples?
<{^_^}> #36790 (by pjan, 2 years ago, merged): adds tmuxPlugins
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<__red__> I get: "warning: not applying UID change of user 'red' (1002 -> 1000)
<__red__> "
<__red__> But that is really what I want to do
<__red__> I don't see a way to override that - anyone have any idea?
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<__red__> and looking at the source for update-users-groups.pl, I don't see an override
<__red__> I guess I could just make mutable users
<__red__> make the changes
<__red__> then run it again
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn pushed to master « nix-output-monitor: 0.1.0.0 -> 0.1.0.2 »: https://git.io/JTlgK
<__red__> hmm, lemme try that
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @LuigiPiucco opened pull request #101007 → zsh plugins: use omz-compatible paths → https://git.io/JTlgX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #100998 → kpt: 0.34.0 -> 0.35.0 → https://git.io/JTlBk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlgS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markus1189 opened pull request #101008 → microaeson: Unbreak via jailbreak → https://git.io/JTl2k
<evanjs> __red__: I remember seeing others with these issues before. Can't remember if it was UID < 1000 or UID <= 1000
<__red__> Well, I seem to have solved it now I think by making it mutable then editting the passwd file directly
<__red__> it was caused by me doing migrations so it's a very-edge case
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee pushed to master « svtplay-dl: 2.6 -> 2.7 »: https://git.io/JTl24
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee closed pull request #101000 → svtplay-dl: 2.6 -> 2.7 → https://git.io/JTlRj
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<__red__> hmm
<__red__> I wonder if anyone in the hackday is working on smashing the new release bugs
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JTlaa
<tokudan> does virtualbox work on 20.09? I always get the following error: Qt FATAL: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x50c07) with this library (version 0x50e02)
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<clever> tokudan: that happens if you have QT programs in nix-env, and you upgrade nixos
<clever> tokudan: you must either remove (or upgrade) every QT based program in `nix-env -q`
<tokudan> clever, nix-env -q is completly empty
<clever> tokudan: what about root's `nix-env -q` ?
<tokudan> same
<clever> tokudan: are you pinning anything to old versions?
<beww> /join #nixcon
<tokudan> i only use a single nixpkgs, as far as i know, but i'll double-check
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #101010 → lean: 3.19.0 -> 3.21.0 → https://git.io/JTlwI
<beww> that's a nice PR number :D
<tokudan> clever, not as far as I can see
<clever> tokudan: what does `which VirtualBox` return?
<tokudan> /run/current-system/sw/bin/VirtualBox -> /nix/store/c1rjwsj8f82fav1ll4pnaflwximad4z0-virtualbox-6.1.14/bin/VirtualBox
<tokudan> I'm on 20.09beta1181.a8da27d4b07
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<clever> tokudan: not sure then, ive got nixpkgs rev e2bb73ce5f7 on my laptop, from nixos-unstable, and its running virtualbox just fine
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<bqv> Had a strange error with fetchpatch in a build. It refused to finish, citing "sed: couldn't flush stdout". when I did the same fetchpatch in the repl, it worked, so now I can't reproduce it
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<bqv> Just noting it for any future log-crawlers
<clever> bqv: you can run nix-store --delete on the output, then you can re-run it
<bqv> I really, really don't want to, because the dependent build takes half an hour
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #101011 → libamqpcpp: 4.1.7 -> 4.2.1 → https://git.io/JTloO
<tokudan> clever, it seems that plasma is using qt 5.12 while virtualbox gets compiled with 5.14 by default. so they're incompatible on 20.09 :/
<tokudan> i guess i'll open an issue
<clever> tokudan: ah, thatll do it
<tokudan> going to dig a bit deeper into nixpkgs to very that
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-burns opened pull request #101012 → perlPackages.Linux*: disable on non-Linux platforms → https://git.io/JTlod
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryanorendorff closed pull request #100937 → agda standard-library: v1.3 -> v1.4 → https://git.io/JTWzS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @austinbutler opened pull request #101013 → python3Packages.google_cloud_websecurityscanner: fix build → https://git.io/JTlKw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #101014 → libdigidocpp: 3.14.3 -> 3.14.4 → https://git.io/JTlK6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #95717 → git-vanity-hash: init at 2020-02-26 → https://git.io/JJbLS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTlKD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 opened pull request #101015 → iSCSI: add various modules and a test → https://git.io/JTl6W
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #101016 → texlive: minor cleanups → https://git.io/JTl6E
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #101010 → lean: 3.19.0 -> 3.21.0 → https://git.io/JTlwI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JTli4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #100991 → linuxPackages.nvidia_x11.persistenced: fix build → https://git.io/JTlCN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed to master « linuxPackages.nvidia_x11.persistenced: fix build »: https://git.io/JTlia
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @eadwu closed pull request #100538 → nixos/nvidia: decouple nvidia_x11.persistenced → https://git.io/JTO2w
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #93400 → mopidy-local: init at 3.1.1 → https://git.io/JJnsl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer reopened pull request #100538 → nixos/nvidia: decouple nvidia_x11.persistenced → https://git.io/JTO2w
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #100538 → nixos/nvidia: decouple nvidia_x11.persistenced → https://git.io/JTO2w
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<evanjs> is stdenv = clangStdenv all I need for packages that require clang? poking around, but failing to find <string>, etc
<evanjs> package in question -- https://github.com/sony/v8eval
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<evanjs> also, thoughts on where this directory should be installed? --> https://github.com/hydrusnetwork/hydrus/tree/master/help
<evanjs> I was thinking $out/doc but idk
<evanjs> If it even needs to be installd 🤷
<evanjs> not sure how it could be easily accessed
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mausch opened pull request #101018 → dotnetCorePackages.sdk_5_0: 5.0.100-rc.1.20452.10 -> 5.0.100-rc.2.204… → https://git.io/JTlXA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jmpunkt opened pull request #101020 → [20.09] libreoffice-qt: fix compilation → https://git.io/JTlMT
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra opened pull request #4162 → Switch to Nixpkgs 20.09 → https://git.io/JTlQE
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<supersandro2000> oh come on. 35 minutes ...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @austinbutler opened pull request #101029 → python3Packages.google_cloud_kms: 2.0.1 -> 2.2.0 → https://git.io/JTl7B
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<simpson> Hey, um. I'm having a reality-altering toothache. What's going on with https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#vim ? I can't tell if it has three sections or four.
<simpson> I can probably fix this later, if there's not already a PR for it.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #100344 → enlightenment.efl: 1.25.0 -> 1.25.1 → https://git.io/JTLI3
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<samueldr> simpson: a future-proof way to fix it would be to rephase without mentioning how many :)
<samueldr> though clearly there are three lights
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<pingiun> can I detect when a <nixpkgs> import doesn't work and supply a default value?
<pingiun> in my CI <nixpkgs> doesn't exist, and it doesn't need to because I only need nixpkgs.system from it
<pingiun> and on CI it's always linux
<qyliss> pingiun: not quite an answer, but is builtins.currentSystem useful to you?
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<pingiun> very
<pingiun> qyliss: thank you, didn't know that exists :D
<qyliss> :)
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<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr opened pull request #229 → Misc. updates to the examples/demo system → https://git.io/JTlFc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #101032 → libcec: 4.0.5 -> 4.0.7 → https://git.io/JTlFP
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<{^_^}> [nix] @kampka opened pull request #4163 → Add NIX_EXPERIMENTAL_FEATURES environment option → https://git.io/JTlxJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JamieMagee opened pull request #101033 → pythonPackages.pyaftership: init at 0.1.2 → https://git.io/JTlxI
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<Raito_Bezarius> in Nix 3, how can I have nix run nixpkgs.something like before?
<Raito_Bezarius> it's complaining because it wants a flake I think
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<clever> Raito_Bezarius: nix run -f '<nixpkgs>' something
<Raito_Bezarius> thanks clever
<Raito_Bezarius> is toYAML able to generate deep YAML files if I pass deep attrsets?
<Raito_Bezarius> it seems like not
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<Raito_Bezarius> > pkgs.lib.generators.toYAML { a = 3; test = { b = 5; }; }
<{^_^}> 'toYAML' at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/generators.nix:196:12 called with unexpected argument 'a', at (string):345:1
<Raito_Bezarius> > pkgs.lib.generators.toYAML { a = "3"; test = { b = "5"; }; }
<{^_^}> 'toYAML' at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/generators.nix:196:12 called with unexpected argument 'a', at (string):345:1
<Raito_Bezarius> > pkgs.lib.generators.toYAML { test = { b = "5"; }; }
<{^_^}> 'toYAML' at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/generators.nix:196:12 called with unexpected argument 'test', at (string):345:1
<samueldr> please use the nix repl first before demonstrating here :)
<clever> 135 toYAML = {}@args: toJSON args;
<Raito_Bezarius> Sorry for this, I was using nix repl
<samueldr> (or use #bottest if too problematic)
<clever> thats very weird
<evanjs> gah I need some kind of "this is probably the term you're thinking of" list for nixos/nixpkgs...
<samueldr> yeah, general warning, I kinda assumed you would have been on the side
<clever> without `{ ... }@args`, it will never accept any argument
<evanjs> like, I forgot what the "sourceDir" directive was, again
<Raito_Bezarius> And I was curious, so… I just tried the next thing
<Raito_Bezarius> Thanks for the warning samueldr
<evanjs> e.g. srcDir, sourceDir, sourceDirectory, etccc
<clever> i dont see how toYAML would ever work
<clever> Raito_Bezarius: and the comment above that line, reminds us that toJSON will work perfectly as well
<Raito_Bezarius> Indeed
<clever> Raito_Bezarius: all valid json, is also valid yaml
<Raito_Bezarius> I was just using toYAML for semantic
<Raito_Bezarius> in my code
<Raito_Bezarius> I know I can just go toJSON
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<Raito_Bezarius> but it looks like toJSON does not work too
<Raito_Bezarius> just tried in my repl
<clever> Raito_Bezarius: how does it fail?
<Raito_Bezarius> > pkgs.lib.generators.toJSON { test = 3; }
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<{^_^}> 'toJSON' at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/generators.nix:188:12 called with unexpected argument 'test', at (string):345:1
<clever> Raito_Bezarius: try builtins.toJSON instead
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<Raito_Bezarius> clever: alright, will do
<evanjs> sourceRoot
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<duairc> Does Nix have any builtins for converting floats to ints?
<pbogdan> > lib.generators.toYAML {} { test = 3; }
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<{^_^}> "{\"test\":3}"
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<clever> pbogdan: what? how does that even work, from the code i pasted above??
<clever> 127 toJSON = {}: builtins.toJSON;
<clever> pbogdan: ah, different toJSON, that throws out one arg, and takes another!
<Raito_Bezarius> why does it work this way?
<samueldr> is it that generators have a "ocnfiguration" argument first?
<samueldr> configuration*
<Raito_Bezarius> ha!
<Raito_Bezarius> you're right
<clever> and these 2 ones dont accept any cfg
<samueldr> oh, yeah, and documented
<samueldr> >> They all follow a similar interface: generator { config-attrs } data
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<Raito_Bezarius> thanks clever and samueldr and pbogdan
<Raito_Bezarius> clever++, samueldr++, pbogdan++
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<nix_installer> Hi! we tried installing with the UEFI route and since it's an old motherboard we decided UEFI wasn't supported (it's not listed in the manual for the motherboard) so we're trying to go the legacy boot route now, but we're getting an error: "Creating journal (262144 blocks): doneWriting superblocks and filesystem accounting information: mkfs.ext4:
<nix_installer> Input/output error while writing out and closing file system" - any thoughts on how to solve?
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<nix_installer> I was thinking maybe we could wipe the hard drive and try again?
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<nix_installer> we have run smartctl -a /dev/sda
<m3thos> ensure the drive is formatted with old style partition table and see if you're using a block size compatible with your drive, if it is a recent spinning hdd, you'll need to use 4kb blocks
<m3thos> anyone using zfs knows if nixos uses the cachefile?
<nix_installer> m3thos: why can't we use ext4?
<nix_installer> (didn't see anything obvious from smartctl, but I'm a noob - currently running `badblocks -v /dev/sda`)
<m3thos> you can use ext4, just check if the partitioning of the drive is compatible with normal bios and if the formatting is compatible w/ the drive itself. I never seen that but it might be that you're trying to write to a 512b offset on 4kb block drive
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<nix_installer> how do I know what the offset is?
<nix_installer> (it's a really old motherboard and a new 2TB HD.)
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<m3thos> check "Sector Size:" line on smartctl
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<nix_installer> Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
<clever> Nix_Installer: then you should be using 4kb alignment for the partitions, and 4kb block sie (a bigger multiple) for ext4 block sizes
<clever> but thats likely already automated
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<nix_installer> we were doing the install strictly from the instructions
<nix_installer> `mkfs.ext4 -L nixos /dev/sda1`
<clever> Nix_Installer: and `fdisk -l /dev/sda` says sda1 is how big?
<nix_installer> Disk /dev/sda: 1.8 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors
<clever> thats sda, not sda1
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<nix_installer> `/dev/sda1 2048 3890251951 3890249904 1.8T 83 Linux`
<m3thos> anyone knows how can I install and use openzfs 2.0 in nixos ?
<clever> Nix_Installer: does `mount` say anything on sda is mounted?
<clever> Nix_Installer: does `lsblk` agree that sda1 is 1.8tb?
<nix_installer> no (I think) and yes
<nix_installer> we're on a fresh boot of the live CD I think...
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<nix_installer> could we try a different file system than ext4, or does the install instructions assume ext4?
<nix_installer> if we try a different one, what command would we use?
<m3thos> yes, try btrfs, it's great
<m3thos> mkfs.btrfs
<m3thos> or xfs: mkfs.xfs
<m3thos> btrfs has lots of features like native compression, checksumming to detect bitrot, snapshots..
<m3thos> xfs is more similar to ext4, it doesn't have those advanced features
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<nix_installer> m3thos: we did `mkfs.btrfs -L nixos /dev/sda1` which seemed to succeed aside from listing two incompatible features: `Incompat features: extref, skinny-metadata`
<nix_installer> should we just continue from here, do you suppose?
<m3thos> no problem w/ that, btrfs evolves by using optional features, it isnt a blocker or a big issue, carry on your instalation normally, everytime the docs mention `ext4` check here for what you should use, but `btrfs` is the name of the filesystem
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<nix_installer> ok, thanks
<evanjs> catern: thanks for the review. going over the test weirdness now lol
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<evanjs> argh. looks like I might have some renaming to do ... https://github.com/mozilla/treeherder/commit/5cdc2170cc504d6a142420216c787037f79ab1ac
<evanjs> running into the same issue
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<evanjs> wait I'm using nose, which I guess that's normal for :P
<nix_installer> ok, we are now somewhat stumped at nixos-install, we have this error message: `error (ignored): aborting transaction: SQL logic error (in '/mnt/nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite')error: committing transaction: disk I/O error (in '/mnt/nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite')`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pasqui23 opened pull request #101041 → kwin: apply @tildearrow's low latency patch → https://git.io/JT8kg
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<clever> Nix_Installer: does dmesg say anything?
<nix_installer> yes, there's a lot
<clever> Nix_Installer: any errors at the end?
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<nix_installer> yeah also a lot - I think...
<nix_installer> these are SATA, IDK if that makes a difference...
<clever> then something is wrong with either the drive or the cable
<evanjs> ran into an issue similar to this -- https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/94894#issuecomment-670918819
<nix_installer> maybe we should remove the other drives while attempting to install?
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<evanjs> but it's for the package I am trying to build :P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-burns opened pull request #101042 → soil: use github source, enable on darwin → https://git.io/JT8IJ
<evanjs> On another note... imgbrd-grabber is giving me some weird "wait this should be fixed AFAICT" errors when trying to build from source
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #101001 → kubeseal: 0.12.5 -> 0.12.6 → https://git.io/JTlEg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JT8I3
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