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<bew>
Hello, I have nix installed on Arch, I use urxvt installed on Arch and tried to install `less` on Nix. When launching less, it yells at me with 'WARNING: terminal is not fully functional', meaning that less seems to only look for nix-installed terminfo and I'm not sure how to debug this / how to tell it to look in my /usr/share/terminfo by default
<bew>
I tried to look in the nixpkgs/... less.nix but didn't found anything related to terminfos
<bew>
I'm trying to see where is the location of terminfos written for less (if it is)
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<ddellacosta>
so when I call `:l <nixpkgs>` in nix repl it is loaded into a 'pkgs' variable by default, it seems. Where is this documented? Is this just following the general convention I see elsewhere of using the name 'pkgs'?
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<infinisil>
> pkgs.pkgs.pkgs.pkgs.pkgs
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<infinisil>
ddellacosta: It's just that nixpkgs defines pkgs to be itself
<infinisil>
ddellacosta: So actually `:l <nixpkgs>` loads *all* packages on the top level into the scope, so you'll have `hello` and `lib` in there. But `pkgs` is also loaded, which also refers to the whole package set, so there's `pkgs.hello` and `pkgs.lib`
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<JJJollyjim>
what does "consumeEntire(): ERROR: Input null bytes, won't process"
<JJJollyjim>
mean
<JJJollyjim>
it happens as part of patchPhase, I don't even see how patchPhase uses substituteStream
<JJJollyjim>
:/
<JJJollyjim>
ah right i see, it's a postPatch in this package
<lukego>
I'm looking for the easiest way to run my whole X11 desktop remotely via x11vnc. Is 'terminal-server' really a thing or just dead code in nixpkgs?
<ghasshee_>
Hi, I typed a command "nix eval nixpkgs.foo.bar" then it drains a sequence of errors;
<ghasshee_>
trace: lib.zip is deprecated, use lib.zipAttrsWith instead trace: `lib.nixpkgsVersion` is deprecated, use `lib.version` instead! trace: `types.list` is deprecated; use `types.listOf` instead
<ghasshee_>
what does this mean and how to improve this ?
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<ghasshee_>
I am on 20.03.
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<srhb>
ghasshee_: It just means that some deprecated functions/values were used in order to evaluate your expression. They're unlikely to be fixed in 20.03, but will probably be improved upon in master. To participate in fixing them, you can grep through the nixpkgs repo to find uses of them and try to replace them with their recommended replacements, then open a PR.
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<spease>
I noticed python's ctypes.util.find_library doesn't seem to find libraries from nix, at least under darwin. I saw there had been some patches to this specific function. Is this the expected behavior? It just returns None. If so, what is the 'right' way to find libraries that are pulled into the environment via nix? Thanks.
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<karantan>
what is the difference between e.g. "nix-env -i nixops" and adding "nixops" to environment.systemPackages in configuration.nix?
<srhb>
karantan: In general, nix-env operates on your user profile, while the latter operates on the system profile
<cole-h>
Additionally: nix-env is imperative, while adding to configuration.nix is declarative.
<karantan>
if I add package to environment.systemPackages it will be there after I do "nixos-rebuild switch". is this true also for "nix-env -i" ?
<srhb>
karantan: The two are unrelated. nixos-rebuild switch will in general not affect packages with nix-env -i
<cole-h>
If you were to copy your config, if you `nix-env`'d nixops, it won't show up until you re-run that command. On the other hand, if you add it to systemPackages, it will show up.
<karantan>
I don't like imperative. That's why I started using nixos
<srhb>
karantan: Then don't use nix-env in general :)
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<cole-h>
Then you should stay away from nix-env :)
<karantan>
do we have anything similar like https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html for nixops? I would like to see e.g. all deployment options or resources options
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<zecnate>
I'm onto the rust portion of my project, and just read over the rust section in the pkgs manual. After a first skim, I'm confused about the difference between `pkgs.rustPlatform.buildRustPackage` versus the approach with `carnix`. Why would I ever want the latter?
<phaebz>
how to find out which version of a file in the nix store is used in the current generation, e.g. from the list of `ls /nix/store/*glibc*/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2`?
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<kiren>
phaebz: Not sure if this is the proper way, but I'd use `ls -l /nix/var/nix/gcroots/current-system/sw/lib/`
<phaebz>
dminuoso: yep, I am using a 3rd party bin that has /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 hardcoded and I want to `patchelf` it, but do not know which interpreter in the store I should set here.
<phaebz>
dminuoso: like so? objdump -x /nix/store/ih9bwzlkp0r5p999fnrdx1m1xkm0kfb6-emacs-26.3/bin/emacs
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<phaebz>
but the output is: file format not recognized
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<dminuoso>
phaebz: You'll have to open the file. For some reasons the various binaries are actually shell shims.
<dminuoso>
(Sometimes a few levels deep, until you find the actual elf file)
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<phaebz>
dminuoso: ok, thanks, need to go off, will check later
<eyJhb>
How can I combine multiple packages into one ? E.g. copy all the files from four other packages, so their libs, etc. reside in the same /nix/store/something ?
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<clever>
eyJhb: buildEnv
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<eyJhb>
Works :) I there a way to specify I do not want "/share/doc" ?
<eyJhb>
Instead of whitelisting all I want
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<pmyjavec>
Hey all, how do others build and install packages when developing them? I've been running nix-build and then installing the drv by running nix-env -i foo.drv
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<pmyjavec>
The issue I have with that, is when changing the nix file, if it's the same as something I'd built before, I can't get a path to the drv again :)
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<V>
eyJhb: there might be an option or you could just add `rm -fr $out/share/doc` in postInstall
<eyJhb>
Hmm, true V, that would solve it
<eyJhb>
However it still seems like Omnet++ needs some help detecting inet... NO clue how the hell this works
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<ramen_master>
Hm, it's an "electron" based app and it seems to come with some libraries packaged into the zip file, the application is called dynalist.
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<ramen_master>
I'll check the packages and see if other electron apps have been packaged.
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<humancalico[m]>
I want to install the latest GitHub CLI and found there is a package for that in the NixPkgs but that is v0.11.0 although when looking at the source code I found that it was recently bumped to the latest v1.0.0. I am not familiar with the release cycle of nixpkgs but any idea how much time does it take to get the updated packages? Also is there any other way I can install the package from GitHub releases?
<whald>
hi! i'm trying to build a VM for a server running nixos so things can be tested before deploying to the real thing. problem is, there are some minor differences when running on the real machine vs what i want when run in a VM. e.g. i want services.ddclient.enable = false when run inside the VM because redirecting traffic to the VM kind of defeats the purpose.
<sphalerite>
whald: you can put the VM-specific options in a separate file which has the main configuration in imports
<sphalerite>
whald: so you can build the VM with a configuration like { imports = [ ./configuration.nix ]; services.ddclient.enable = false; } and the non-VM from configuration.nix
<whald>
sphalerite, nice! i think this is where i went wrong, i need a separate module for that.
<cptMikky>
hey, I remember seeing some kind of docker-container-as-a-systemd-service nix option but I can't find it now. Can someone give me nudge in the proper direction?
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<cptMikky>
Ah.....> "warning: The option `docker-containers' defined in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' has been changed to `virtualisation.oci-containers' that has a different type. Please read `virtualisation.oci-containers' documentation and update your configuration accordingly."
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<hauleth>
Does anyone know a way to add more derivations to beam.packagesWith?
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<noonien>
i'll try to add the rest of the dependencies now, i remember trying in the past, and hitting a snag with some of the dependencies not supporting windows
<evanjs>
this is what I have so far -- initial impl is on line 40 -- which is just importing a list of strings (files that have been filtered against a certain criteria)
<evanjs>
I want to "pin" everything that is imported so gc doesn't think it's all dead
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<mzumquadrat>
Is there some form of meta-package for xfce? I want to install xfce including all the software. Do i have to look up every package manually?
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<lordcirth>
mzumquadrat, do you want to enable it as your desktop? Just set:
<evanjs>
services.xserver.desktopManager.xfce.enable will take care of most of that
<mzumquadrat>
Ah thanks.
<evanjs>
and unless you enable e.g. services.xserver.desktopManager.xfce.noDesktop, it will basically pull in all the stuff you mentioned for you
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<__red__>
Greetings - so - the package I'm just tidying up has a multi-stage build process so I'm running "make libs" in preBuild. However, I need to add the makeFlags
<__red__>
since that's an array and not a string, is there anything else I need to do to it othr than hunt down the NixOS equivalent of join(" ")
<__red__>
error: cannot coerce a list to a string, at /home/red/projects/nixpkgs/pkgs/development/compilers/ponyc/default.nix:77:14
<__red__>
is what I would expect
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<__red__>
honestly, it may not matter because of what is being compiled during the make lib configure stages
<__red__>
but the makeFlags contain isDarwin, and I don't have a Mac to test it on so I'd rather put it in and it not be needed than omit it and find that the hydra-on-mac fails
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<evanjs>
__red__: how about e.g. $makeFlags?
<evanjs>
instead of '${makeFlags}'
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[nix] @regnat opened pull request #4055 → Use gold as the linker on Linux → https://git.io/JUgP1
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<__red__>
evanjs: Looks good - thank you!
<__red__>
time to clean up the module and push - thanks!@
<jared-w>
evanjs: glad I still get working notifications if I'm mentioned lol. Anyway, that snippet essentially grabs (from what I understand) all build time dependencies and turns them into instantiation dependencies so that you can use ifd in hydra. (or in my case, build everything in a derevation with zero internet access)
<jared-w>
evanjs: that said, I never caught your snippet. Did you link it?
<evanjs>
based on something from infinisil's config lol. the initial expressoin works fine in terms of building and etc, but if I collect garbage and then try to run nixos-option or etc, well, new-modules was never exactly a "dependency" (only used during build time)
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<evanjs>
so it's "dead" and is garbage collected
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<evanjs>
And I'm wondering if something like the mkPins function might help solve that problem
<evanjs>
(right now, I'm just using `imports = validFiles ./.;` -- which ends up being a list of strings, as you'd normally expect imports to be given
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<__red__>
evanjs: great question btw, thank you.
<__red__>
(on my pr)
<__red__>
and yeah - it kills me too
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<__red__>
I tried for hours to get it included -
<__red__>
part of me wants to try again
<__red__>
but another part of me says that since I have to pull something else in (because there isn't a nixos package for it) to just let it slide
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<__red__>
especially since this entire this is mostly temporary due to an upstream bug
<jared-w>
evanjs: I do think something like mkPins would do what you want. The first thing I see is you seem to be using it with a list when it takes an attrset?
<__red__>
which when fixed, we can remove most of the default.nix
<__red__>
evanjs: but now you're making me consider it again...
<jared-w>
I suspect you'll want to leave imports as taking the validFiles and then have mkPins somewhere else that always gets evaluated. Perhaps "installing" the directory?
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<evanjs>
jared-w: right yeah that's what I was wondering. And yes I was thinking something like that might work
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<evanjs>
wasn't too sure where to put it. Might have been too early in the morning :P
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<__red__>
evanjs: now you're making me consider wanting to try agan
<__red__>
evanjs: now you're making me consider wanting to try again
<evanjs>
Oh so that's what edits in IRC look like
<evanjs>
(Been there before 😱)
<evanjs>
And yeah probably a good idea __red__
<evanjs>
I mean, idk, I would. But I just _love_ Yak-Shaving, so...
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<__red__>
yeah - problem is that we're already pinned with a custom LLVM because of the backported bugfix
<evanjs>
does that prevent the use of the other in-tree deps?
<__red__>
so I'm nervous to unpin a pinned *build* dependency
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<__red__>
and the fact that none of this is used after build is the only thing that lets me look at my own face in the morning after
<__red__>
sooner they get to 10.x llvm the better
<evanjs>
*wonders when rustc will be able to use 100% upstream LLVM* yeah definitely a fragile thing now that I think about it
<evanjs>
though maybe even pulling in the in-tree packages and overriding src would be enough? or like... idk, adding expressions for the other versions and consuming them? I have no clue in terms of best practices
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<evanjs>
Can't find the exact status of it but yeah they've had sync issues with the upstream LLVM in the past, though I'm not sure if they've really been all too bad. Looks like they're on 11 now, anyway (https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/73526)
<evanjs>
jared-w: when you say 'install', do you mean using e.g. the mkPin function?
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<jared-w>
Rust uses a fork of llvm because they need to be able to apply patches easily and test them. They attempt to mainstream everything as often as possible. Rustc uncovers a ton of bugs due to being "c-like" but being able to make heavy use of dangerous optimizations. Rust still can't emit proper aliasing info iirc, since llvm just doesn't know how to use it properly
<evanjs>
jared-w++
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<evanjs>
that lol. thank you!
<jared-w>
Wew karma!
<__red__>
evanjs: honetsly - all options feel wrong, but as long as it's deterministic and doesn't leak outside the build i'm kinda okay with it
<__red__>
even if it does feel weird.
<evanjs>
__red__: sure sure. I was hoping that at the very least, we could e.g. be able to tell what's using gtest... though, now that I dig deeper, it looks like others use e.g. googletest instead of gtest or etc, so yeah, it's whatever in that case lol
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<jared-w>
evanjs: and yeah I meant with (mkPin allYoImports) hiding somewhere in your environment packages and seeing if that does the trick. Normally I'd say to just `mkPin { imports = ... }` but idk if that actually works or if it breaks nix modules (I suspect the latter)
<__red__>
I just wish the compile times weren't so insane
<evanjs>
__red__: for your package or rustc? :P
<jared-w>
Heh, yeah. That's compilers for you. Bootstrapping is raw hell and kinda always is
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join #fish
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<evanjs>
jared-w: like `environment.systemPackages = [ (mkPins (validFiles ./.))];` or?
<evanjs>
right that's what I was wondering initially. Couldn't figure out how to map it properly though
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<jared-w>
It would get messy since you'd be importing stuff that's in the nix store rather than in the "proper" spot lol. Lots of relative file path stuff starts breaking at that point if you're not careful
<evanjs>
Hrmmm
<evanjs>
Wondering if there _is_ a way to solve this idiomatically as is 🤪
<evanjs>
__red__: yeah it can be annoying to test pure nix builds at times. lorri and etc have helped a lot in terms of "close to the same env for building/testing"
<noonien>
has anyone managed to cross compile their project for windows?
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I wihs tehre was a way to cancel grahamofborg
<__red__>
since I know that its going to fail and I need to upload a new version
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #98547 → [20.09] Backport google resumable media → https://git.io/JUgug
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #98549 → [20.09] python3Packages.fluent-logger: relax version for msgpack → https://git.io/JUgzI
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[nix] @martinetd opened pull request #4057 → nix/store on btrfs compression: add workaround → https://git.io/JUg9B
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<__red__>
evanjs: the other option is that I could just pull the official binary version instead and wrap that
<evanjs>
__red__: bleh lol
<__red__>
evanjs: but I figred that nix would rather have the compile from source, even though it's a touch messier
<evanjs>
jared-w: Ah yes indeed okay this _is_ working. I just have to make sure everything that behaves this way adds whatever files they import to systemPackages as well. Sweet!
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<azazel>
garbas: have you ever tried to use pypi2nix to install plone dependencies?
<jared-w>
evanjs: nice. The systemPackages thing is just a place in configuration.nix that I know is always evaluated. You could probably stick it somewhere else and have it work just fine.
<jared-w>
azazel: mach nix might also be wroth looking at https://github.com/DavHau/mach-nix I think pypi2nix is no longer maintained unfortunately
<jnetod>
with flakes, how do I access a file from an input outPath? tried "${nixos-unstable}/path/to/file" and "${nixos-unstable.outPath}/path/to/file" but got "infinite recursion encountered".
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[nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj merged pull request #98574 → [20.09] nixosTests.magnetico: wait for open port and make curl actually fail → https://git.io/JUg94
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<jlv>
What do I do if a build tries to access `/tmp`?
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<Ke>
jlv: just in case, does setting TMPDIR help, or does nix already set that
<Ke>
did not even know /tmp was not provided
<jlv>
Emil Karlson: I'm pretty sure Nix already sets `TMPDIR`
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<Ke>
I guess the question would be, why does it do that
<jlv>
Emil Karlson: my understanding is that the Nix build environment is sandboxed. It can't access outside directories like /tmp . Allowing that would break reproducibility and open security holes.
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<Ke>
reproducibility yes but making it a security issue you would either have to use confused deputy or similar or fool someone to run your bad build, in which case you could maybe just have the bad code there directly
<xensky>
hopefully this question isn't too stupid... what's the difference between enabling programs.gnupg.agent vs adding gnupg to environment.systemPackages?
<gchristensen>
hm 20.09 hasn't updated in a hot minute
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<garbas>
azazel: yes, first i created requirements.txt out of buildout.cfg and then few overrides to break cyclic dependencies. I would be interested how much work it is to get it working with poetry2nix
<cole-h>
gchristensen: Indeed... hm...
<xensky>
one more question for today; my default font size for some programs seems to be a size too small. is font scale setting available in config somewhere? i didn't see it looking at the options under `fonts.`, and i tried changing via lxappearance but that only specifies the font and not the size
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<cole-h>
gchristensen: Also seems like the nixpkgs-20.09-darwin channel never got added to that screen
<cole-h>
s/screen/page/
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<cole-h>
gchristensen: Since you have access to bastion, if you have some spare time, maybe you could check the logs for the darwin service to see why it's in a perpetual state of failure? ;P
<cizra>
Is boot.kernelPackages = pkgs.linuxPackages_5_7; supposed to work these days? It's failing to compile some NVidia-related thingamajig: https://paste.ee/p/Anvwy
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<catern>
Is there a helper to create a fixed-output derivation which just copies some files from a subdirectory of an input derivation, to $out?
<__red__>
I am the impatient one
<catern>
I have a git repo that has multiple pieces of software in it which I want to build in separate derivations, but one of them changes much more frequently than the other, and I don't want to have to rebuild both whenever I update the git revision
* __red__
pokes ofBorg
<catern>
So I'm thinking I'd move the source code into separate fixed-out derivations
<__red__>
When a test timeouts (ponyc.passthru.tests on x86_64-linux — Timed out, unknown build status) - is it going to retry?
<azazel>
garbas: I've tried to do the same, but I've stumbled upon a strange problem with the compilation of the "persitent" package: when I do a "pypi2nix -r plone52-buildout-requirements.txt" it exits with an error ( https://termbin.com/evaka ) that i don't really understand. When packaged alone, the process works flawlessly... I'm almost certain it has something to do with the damn setuptools version
<vifon>
Hello, I'm trying to blacklist a kernel module and I suspect it's being loaded during stage 1 as setting boot.blacklistedKernelModules doesn't help. How can I proceed? The module in question: snd_hda_codec_hdmi
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<azazel>
vifon: maybe you could load the right kernel before that? i.e. by using boot.initrd.kernelModules?
<vifon>
Can it be used to blacklist a module? It seems to be capable only of adding modules.
<vifon>
Hm, I should be able to overwrite this list, but it doesn't contain this module.
<azazel>
yes, but if your driver is another, maybe loading it early will block snd_hda_codec_hdmi from being loaded into
<vifon>
I don't need a different driver. I'm trying to prevent Pulseaudio from switching to HDMI audio which I don't use at all.
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<evanjs>
clever: mmm is there any way I can `nixos-rebuild` from a qemu "vm"? :P assuming NIX_PATH has everything it needs
<evanjs>
getting stuck on the fileSystem needing to be set lol
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<clever>
evanjs: you need to add qemu-vm.nix to the imports, its in nixpkgs
<clever>
evanjs: or use a more complete install that doesnt share the host store, and just functions normally
<evanjs>
clever: yeah I should be sourcing the imports from nixos-generate... probably should make sure I am
<evanjs>
assuming that actually imports what I need
<evanjs>
I can just import them manually in the machine config anyhow
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<clever>
looks like some clouds are rolling in.....
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<evanjs>
clever: there we go. yeah... pointed it to the right nixos-config in nixPath and fileSystems appears to exist now. Now I just need to set boot.loader.grub.devices to nodev or whatever
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<evanjs>
ah. or virtualisation.useBootLoader
<gchristensen>
clever: did you have a way to get ZFS on AWS?
<clever>
gchristensen: its in a flake now!, but auto-resize is still bugged
<Athas>
Which derivation do I need in order to get xfce? There are a whole bunch of derivations called "xfce", but which one gives me everything?
<nahamu>
clever: I was looking into expanding bootable ZFS pools. You probably need a script that runs at boot time that uses sgdisk or some such to expand (destroy and recreate) the ZFS partition.
<nahamu>
But it would be nice if we could get ZFS to just do the right thing.
<clever>
nahamu: already resizing the partition, and then running `zpool online -e`, but the pool itself doesnt expand
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<nahamu>
I was experimenting with ZFS pools created originally on illumos with -B which reserves way more space at the beginning of the drive.
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<clever>
gchristensen: thats a fragment of another flake.nix, that was depending on ops-lib/zfs/flake.nix
<nahamu>
clever: oh. I hadn't seen `zpool online -e` failing...
<clever>
nahamu: it just silently has no effect, but when ran manually after boot it works
<nahamu>
clever: oh, so scripted it fails but manually works... weird.
<clever>
the tricky part, is that each test, requires uploading a new 3gig ami to aws
<clever>
i need to add dropbear to the initrd, make it hang, and then ssh into the initrd, to debug
<nahamu>
I was doing my experiments on VMs locally, but yeah.
<nahamu>
Good luck!!
<nahamu>
If I find anything I'll try to remember to let you know.
<clever>
gchristensen: you also need to include the zfs-runtime module in your configuration.nix, or the machine wont be able to boot anymore
<gchristensen>
cool, thank you!
<clever>
gchristensen: and systemd.services.amazon-shell-init is based on amazon-init.nix, but instead of you supplying a configuration.nix, you just supply a shell script in the userdata
<clever>
gchristensen: that allows fetching a tarball with a flake.nix, and building it
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<evanjs>
clever: hrm. but now it just stalls at Welcome to GRUB! lol. (I just enabled virtualisation.useBootLoader)
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<clever>
evanjs: the dynamically generated qemu vm that shares the host store, isnt really able to reinstall the bootloader
<clever>
evanjs: if you want that kind of testing, you need to run qemu on a disk image normally, and install nixos as normal
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<mvnetbiz_>
If I nix-copy-closure a system to a host, I can activate it, but is there an easy way to add a bootloader entry?
<clever>
evanjs: nix-build simple-test.nix -A legacy_virtio then run result/bin/qemu_test1 to boot a livecd of sorts, justdoit will be pre-configured to install nixos to /dev/vda with zfs+mbr+grub, or install manually yourself
<clever>
evanjs: then result/bin/qemu_test2 to boot from the disk without the livecd
<mvnetbiz_>
oh that makes sense from where I looked at the bootloader entry making code before. Thanks! clever++
<{^_^}>
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<mvnetbiz_>
surprised I couldn't find that from google
<esclear_m>
How do I prevent an enabled service from autostarting?
<esclear_m>
I'd like to have postgresql installed as a service (with all the configuration done via the options), but I will only use it sparingly for development and thus would prefer to start it manually when needed.
<clever>
esclear_m: the other method is to just use mkForce to set wantedBy to an empty list, then it wont be wanted by multi-user.target, so it wont run on boot
<clever>
but the example i was going to grab, got removed 17 days ago!, so you now have to refer to the red side of a diff! heh
<esclear_m>
Nice, thanks a lot!
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<mvnetbiz_>
clever, I preemptively + you haha. I got to trying it now, and I dont get a new boot entry :(
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<clever>
mvnetbiz_: do you have a new symlink/generation in /nix/var/nix/profiles/? that is pointing to the new path?
<mvnetbiz_>
yes, and nix-env --list-generations --profile /nix/var/nix/profiles/system shows gen 9 and gen 10. gen 10 is the new one, (and activated) but I only have boot entries up to 9
<mvnetbiz_>
The old boot entries are still there, which iirc dont get deleted by nix GC but the bootloader entry installer goes to delete generations that are gone
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<clever>
mvnetbiz_: oh, did you change which bootloader your using?
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<clever>
mvnetbiz_: you might need `NIXOS_INSTALL_BOOTLOADER=1 switch-to-configuration switch`, to update those things
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<mvnetbiz_>
It's always been systemd-boot, and no.
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<clever>
mvnetbiz_: systemd-boot has an anoying feature where you can hit a certain key at the boot menu, to lock it to a certain generation, and it wont boot the default anymore until you hit that key again
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<mvnetbiz_>
I was just looking at nixos-rebuild.sh, I couldn't figure out where that variable gets used
<clever>
mvnetbiz_: how did you activate the new generation?
<clever>
ah, that wont update the bootloader at all
<clever>
you must usw the bin/switch-to-configuration script
<clever>
it takes the normal boot|switch|test args, same as nixos-rebuild
<clever>
switch and boot, will then update the bootloader
<clever>
switch and test, will also run activate
<mvnetbiz_>
interesting, it worked, now to hope I didn't mess up its configuration.
<cole-h>
How do I build something without the daemon, temporarily? Is my only choice to become root?
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<clever>
cole-h: yeah, you need write access to most of /nix to do a build
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<edef>
clever: i feel we could improve the boot activation script to override that
<clever>
edef: which activation script?
<edef>
clever: whatever tweaks loader.conf
<clever>
edef: those arent activation scripts
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<edef>
clever: i'm not sure what else to call them
<clever>
edef: thats config.system.build.installBootLoader being ran by switch-to-configuration, before activate gets ran
<clever>
mvnetbiz_: also, switch-to-configuration is whats responsible for restarting all of the changes systemd services, activate mostly just handles state like /etc/ updates
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<edef>
clever: right, yes
<mvnetbiz_>
yeah I skimmed over it. why is it separate?
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<clever>
mvnetbiz_: i think the activate script is mostly auto-generated, while switch-to-configuration is static
<clever>
mvnetbiz_: yeah, activate is just the module system concat'ing every activation script together
<mvnetbiz_>
have I seen something about systemd "automatic boot assessment" integration in nixos before?
<clever>
i havent seen that before
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<greyeax>
Hey there, is anyone els getting host name resolving issues?
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<greyeax>
even though i can browse to that link, and ping it
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<cole-h>
clever: Thanks. Stopping the nix-daemon socket and service, and `nix build`ing as root worked.
<clever>
cole-h: no need to stop the daemon either, if your root, it wont use the daemon
<cole-h>
Oh really?
<cole-h>
Nice, I'll keep that in mind next time I have to unbork Nix :P
<cole-h>
clever++
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<cole-h>
I guess the daemon really only makes sense to give unprivileged users permission to modify the story (or to delegate that permission to the daemon)
<mvnetbiz_>
greyeax, can you ping releases.nixos.org?
<clever>
cole-h: one handy trick, is that things like `sudo nix-build --option builders foo`, will let SSH_AUTH_SOCK leak a little, and then nix can ssh into foo via your agent
<clever>
cole-h: the sandbox code still clears the var, so it wont leak into the build
<mvnetbiz_>
does that location you an address you cant ping?
<samueldr>
but the weird thing is that the bot ^ hasn't seen anything it seems
<cole-h>
State :x
<samueldr>
yeah
<__red__>
Here we go again - hopefully I won't break my tree again with bad squashing...
<__red__>
$$
<samueldr>
__red__: just in case note the rev where you're at to rescue later :)
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<erictapen>
cole-h: samueldr: Is there an issue about it? Would expect to show up on status.nixos.org
<samueldr>
AFAIK there's no issue
<samueldr>
it's only been investigated recently
<erictapen>
ah I see
<samueldr>
(and I didn't realise at the time that it was the infra that had the issue, I thought it was only that individual that were looking into why their own repo broke)
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<evanjs>
clever: thanks! merged my config with the qemu test thing and I was able to rebuild properly
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<evanjs>
only really needed to ensure the system can build on _a_ system so that should be sufficient lol. the manual nixPath and etc was the bigger thing I needed to test
<__red__>
samueldr: I copied my work out of my broken branch and re-downloaded my fork - then made a new fork
<__red__>
so it only polutes my fork. I'll delete from remote fork once I work out how.
<__red__>
okay - I need to reboot my VM to reduce the stupid number of CPUs I bought while I worked on this problem
<__red__>
beb
<__red__>
brb
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