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<billsun "Is there anyway to override the "> I tried setting fonts.fontconfig.defaultFonts in my configuration.nix, but all the fonts defined in plasma5 gets inserted to the beginning of my custom setting and thus gets preference over the fonts I actually want displayed.
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<ryantm>
aleph-: I think you might be mistaking me for rycee . What error message are you getting?
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ryantm: Woops. That is definitely it haha. Apologies
<aleph->
ryantm: So error I'm getting is that a module I've added to my fork of home-manager but that is not present in the mainline version isn't being found
<aleph->
It seems the system isn't pulling down my copy of home-manager for some reason
<cole-h>
Anybody know why `nix shell ~/workspace/vcs/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable#texlive.combined.scheme-medium` has to build it instead of fetching it from the cache? If I `nix repl ~/workspace/vcs/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable` and `:b texlive.combined.scheme-medium`, I get the cached outpath immediately...
<cole-h>
(I'm using flakes, in case it wasn't obvious; may or may not be relevant)
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<cole-h>
e.g. a.nix has `{ ... }: { a = 1; }` and b.nix has `{ ... }: { b = 2; }`, `imports = [ ./a.nix ./b.nix ];` would essentially result in `{ ... }: { a = 1; b = 2; }` (if I'm not misunderstanding)
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<worldofpeace>
matthuszagh: nixos-enter choots into an install, but judging from the output you shared it failed? the thing is you also have a /nix/store on your live system, and when you're getting all the binaries that could also say " no space left on device". So I wasn't sure where exactly in the execution the failure happened
<worldofpeace>
I believe the command Emil Karlson suggested would be a useful one, btw
<matthuszagh>
worldofpeace: Ke: great i'll try that
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<Ke>
often obviously this is of no use, since the process that ran out of space might clean up the space it used
<Ke>
so nothing might be apparently full
<matthuszagh>
Ke: i'm seeing used 224k avail 549M
<matthuszagh>
df -h /mnt/boot
<Ke>
is there any other filesystem that is full, sometimes it's not the one you expect
<Ke>
if you use btrfs there are occasional spurious ENOSPC bugs
<matthuszagh>
Ke: i am using btrfs
<matthuszagh>
when i run it on /mnt i see 1.9T avail as expected
<Ke>
is it old filesystem?
<matthuszagh>
no i just partitioned the drive and made the fs
<matthuszagh>
is there a way to do su on the installation medium?
<matthuszagh>
can't seem to authenticate, though i can run commands with sudo
<matthuszagh>
when i login i see nixos and root have empty passwords
<matthuszagh>
but su root
<matthuszagh>
followed by enter without a password is an authentication failure
<matthuszagh>
also login to nixos is automatic so i can't start with root
<clever>
matthuszagh: `sudo -i`
<NobbZ[m]>
[matthuszagh](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_matthuszagh:matrix.org) why do you need it at all, you can do `sudo` everything you said.... But indeed, `sudo su` or `sudo -i` or even `sudo bash` are used often. I'm never sure which one was the idiomatic and correct approach.
<NobbZ[m]>
And googling even taught me about `sudo -s` for an elevated shell.
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<matthuszagh>
clever: thanks!
<matthuszagh>
NobbZ[m]: i'm not sure i do.. just trying things
<zecnate>
The thing is, I don't want to clone or modify `pkgs`. I want to define derivations to build my project that use `pkgs` as a dependency. It seems that `import (fetchTarball ...)` pattern does that.
<zecnate>
I'm not exactly sure why the manual takes this other approach. Is it standard for every derivation author to write their derivation in a branch of the `nixpkgs` repo?
<colemickens>
I really want to get Theia running in NixOS. It's too good of a story if I can get nix+npm stuffs to cooperate
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<NobbZ[m]>
[zecnate](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_zecnate:matrix.org) If you want it for a local project use a `default.nix` that accepts an attrset. One of the attrs should be `pkgs`.
<NobbZ[m]>
Then use `nix-build --attr pkgs 'import <nixpkgs> {}'`
<GolDDranks>
Hi, continuing from yesterday: is there a correct, "Nix" way to build and install external kernel modules? I've managed to build one, but I'm clueless about the installation part, since it'll be neccessarily different from normal binaries that you just call
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<NobbZ[m]>
[zecnate](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_zecnate:matrix.org) alternatively you can use `nix-build -E ’(import <nixpkgs> {}).callPackage ./.` if you have more complicated attrset.
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<cole-h>
colemickens: Probably whichever is in nixpkgs :D
<colemickens>
GitPod itself is also (mixed-licensed,mostly) OSS, but I think a neater version could be built with Nix.
<cole-h>
Oh hey, that's pretty cool
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<cole-h>
Yeah, I was gonna comment on that
<cole-h>
Let's make gitpod but using Nix instead of Docker ;)
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<cole-h>
oh no
<colemickens>
Yes, a million times yes. You could deploy to docker/kube clusters, but could also offer one click deployment to AWS/Azure/Packet for dedicated instances.
<cole-h>
Something is mucky -- my numbers are emojis again ;D
<NobbZ[m]>
[astro](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_astro:matrix.org) use it in inputs, and then use it's modules in your modules
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<astro>
what inputs and what modules?
<srhb>
astro: flakes have an attribute outputs = { input1, input2, ... }: { actual outputs }
<srhb>
astro: That is, it's a function from a number of inputs (plus self) to the outputs
<srhb>
astro: You can add any input there.
<srhb>
astro: modules is stuff like your traditional configuration.nix
<srhb>
astro: It's documented further in the nixos manual
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<srhb>
astro: iirc the nixpkgs top level flake has a nixpkgs.lib.nixosSystem function which takes an argument modules that has all the modules you want
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<srhb>
(I guess top level flake is a nonsense term, that's where it lives though)
<srhb>
astro: iow, you can have outputs = { self, nixpkgs, inputFoo }: { nixosConfigurations.yourHost = nixpkgs.lib.nixosSystem { system = ...; modules = [ ./configuration.nix inputFoo.someModuleFromInputFoo ]; } etc.
<NobbZ[m]>
Elvis was meant to say elco... Damn autocorrect...
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<astro>
right, I wasn't using flakes for system configuration, and I'm interested in doing that
<astro>
I quickly made an /etc/nixos/flake.nix but nixos-rebuild fails, complaining about an import in hardware-configuration.nix
<srhb>
astro: You likely want to move the undetected bit to flake.nix as nixpkgs.nixosModules.notDetected
<srhb>
astro: In your modules list
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<srhb>
astro: The problem is that the default hardware-configuration.nix relies on <nixpkgs> (that is NIX_PATH) for that import, which is not supported in pure evaluation.
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<astro>
so I add nixpkgs.nixosModules.notDetected to the modules list in flake.nix, and remove the import in hardware-configuration.nix?
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Found in packages: toybox, busybox, usbutils
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<bourbon>
woo... finally got around to installing nix on a box
<leotaku>
Is there a good way to transition to using Nix Flakes while still using services/applications that don't directly support it? I am using Hercules CI (which does not yet support Flakes and just takes a simple .nix file as its input) to ensure my packages build correctly, how would I get it to use my Flake inputs?
<bourbon>
if I've got a thing I want to install, do I add the systemd service in the same place as the rest of the "how to install this thing" thing?
<GolDDranks>
Was there some neat command to find the derivation from where a package was built?
<GolDDranks>
Tried with nix-store -q --referrers /nix/store/wjgrpxjhvkbsgpb89yy3s450y48kdny4-kernel-modules, but that only returns former system configurations
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[nix] @regnat opened pull request #4014 → gracefully handle old daemon versions → https://git.io/JU49P
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<GolDDranks>
Does anyone have clue how the kernel module packaging works? I have a package /nix/store/wjgrpxjhvkbsgpb89yy3s450y48kdny4-kernel-modules, and I'm trying to figure out how the modules end up in there
<GolDDranks>
I can't find any mentions of some of the modules in the nixpkgs repo
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<GolDDranks>
I'm astonished that the module I was trying to wrap actually existed, pre-built thing, as the piece of hardware is quite rare: /nix/store/wjgrpxjhvkbsgpb89yy3s450y48kdny4-kernel-modules/lib/modules/5.4.64/kernel/drivers/media/pci/pt3/earth-pt3.ko.xz Now I'm trying to figure out how it ended up there
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[nixpkgs] @nlewo opened pull request #98036 → nodePackages.patch-package: init at 6.2.2 → https://git.io/JU4Hg
<GolDDranks>
Uggh, now I have to look into which one of these works better:https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/ff8583d6e4e33fe3856a609095c683d5dbe39120/drivers/media/pci/pt3 vs.
<GolDDranks>
Ah, this is why the tutorials told me to blacklist the driver, it's not fully functional, but the external one is
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<GolDDranks>
I _guess_ that now that I have built my own pt3_drv.ko, I'll be able to add that to boot.kernelModules and have it hopefully work.
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[nixos-search] @garbas merged pull request #190 → Add OpenSearch specifications for both packages and options. → https://git.io/JU4l8
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed commit from @Zopieux to master « Add OpenSearch specifications for both packages and options. (#190) »: https://git.io/JU4QI
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[nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to fix-cover-video « add header to asciinema videos »: https://git.io/JU4Qz
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[nixos-homepage] @garbas opened pull request #531 → add header to asciinema videos → https://git.io/JU4Qg
<wucke13>
I'm currently trying to package something with a meson build, which explicitly requires some modules from boost. How does that work, currenly none of these modules is found?
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[nixpkgs] @Chickensoupwithrice opened pull request #98038 → GnomeExtensions.Switcher: init at master → https://git.io/JU4Qy
<zakame>
Hi, how would I override/overlay nixpkgs.perl to build *without* threads? similar to the stage1 stdenv?
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<joesventek>
I'm currently running nixos-unstable but plan to switch to 20.09. How stable is the 20.09 alpha compared to unstable? When would be a good time to do the switch if I don't wanna mess my system up (too much)?
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<srhb>
joesventek: It's really hard to say. Ideally it'd only be becoming more stable compared to unstable as it progresses. Anything can happen though, no guarantees. :)
<srhb>
joesventek: (fwiw it's fine for me.)
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[nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to feature/2020-redesign « update of content should only happen in cron github workflow »: https://git.io/JU4NG
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<astro>
ok, apparently -L stops nix from eating the log in nixos-rebuild
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<joesventek>
srhb, thanks. I think I'll wait for the beta though.
<LambdaDuck>
Is there any way to make nix-build --dry-run actually *not* build anything, even if there the build depends on an IFD? -j0 kind of works, but doesn't give a list of *what* would be built.
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<regnat>
Essentially you write a ./buildHook.sh that instead of building will print the drv path somewhere and fail. Then you build with --option build-hook $PWD/buildHook.sh (assuming you're a privileged user) and you get the drv that needs to be built for the IFD
<regnat>
(You can use a pre-build-hook rather than a build-hook as this one is a bit more documented and less likely to break at any moment)
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<tnks>
What's the benefit of having everyone's code in NUR over just getting Nix expressions from their individual projects?
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<ldlework>
Anyone have any idea why root cannot interact with pulse/alsa?
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<ldlework>
amixer works fine as my user, but sudo amixer fails that it can't connect to pulse
<ldlework>
(this is indicative of how all audio apps fail as root)
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[nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #86111 → nixos/xserver: clean up the useXFS option → https://git.io/JfqGa
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<ITL>
Hello. I try to setup a l2tp/IPSec client (connection to a target server). On my old system I just needed to provide target server endpoint, PSK and mark the target server being l2tp. Obviously it is a bit different with nixos. Unfortunately, I am quite new to nixos and not very deep in network related configuration and tooling. My current setup is
<ITL>
nixos, home-manager, sway, networkmanager... I also installed networkmanager_strongswan and networkmanager-l2tp packages, but I have no clue about configuring it right and also didn't find a doc/wiki describing that. I would appreciate, if anyone could give me a hand and maybe pointing me to some docs or template config, please?
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<tobiasBora>
Hello, I'd like to write some flake templates, but can't find any doc on it. Notably, I'd like to specify "variables", in order to specify just once the name of the project and then generate all files accordingly.
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<aleph->
rycee: j #nixos-home-manager
<aleph->
Woops
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[nix] @edolstra reopened pull request #3883 → Can build single CA derivations → https://git.io/JJawW
<niksnut>
tobiasBora: currently there are no variables, flake templates are just copied verbatim
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<tobiasBora>
niksnut: oh, too bad. Any idea if it's planned to be implemented soon? Or can I call a specific package (implementing advanced templating) when I run "nix init -t ..."?
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<niksnut>
tobiasBora: not planned but please make an issue
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[nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #98049 → hotel: init at 0.8.7 → https://git.io/JUBkz
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[nix-mode] @matthewbauer merged pull request #109 → Set the 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH' environment variable for mkShell → https://git.io/JUl27
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed to release-20.09 « pytorch: update to use passthru's for checks »: https://git.io/JUBky
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<LogicalOverflow>
Hey, I was wondering if you can "escape" the prefix of a submodule defined as a function (in a different file)? With that I mean, that when I set any value in the submodule's config, they will be prefixed with the name of the option of defining the submodule, but I want to set an un-prefixed option.
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<infinisi1>
LogicalOverflow: What do you need this for? For an error message?
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<LogicalOverflow>
Nah, I am trying to figure out how to setup my system config in a modular way. My current idea is to define a submodule for each piece of software I need, which then configures the actual system (And the same for the users on the system, built on home manager).
<simpson>
Your system configuration is *already* modularized; you write a single module to declare your configuration. Moreover it *already* supports loading dependent modules. Do you have more specific examples of how you'd need to split things up?
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<mananamenos>
hi, i have this line in my .bashrc `export DICPATH=~/.hunspell/dicts`. However, emacs does not see that.
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<LogicalOverflow>
simpson: Thanks. I see how I can do system-wide stuff like that, but what about user configuration (through home-manager)? I could just have a module per user (which configures that user, analogous to software-modules), but I would like to be able to separate the software configuration from the user, so I can reuse stuff between users. How would I
<simpson>
LogicalOverflow: Let users configure themselves! That's part of the fun of Nix. Users can manage their own home-managers independently, I think. TBF I've not had multi-user systems where everybody is a Nix power user, so I don't know what that experience is like.
<lb5tr>
yes, that was me
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<abathur>
LogicalOverflow: I don't really recall who because I haven't had the need myself, but I think I recall seeing a few nix dotfile repos on GH that do this?
<LogicalOverflow>
simpson: I am all the users :D But I would like to have hard divisions between work/side-projects and pure fun, and wanted to setup a user for each.
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<simpson>
LogicalOverflow: Nix provides a hard division between every environment, including e.g. every nix-shell. This leads directly to direnv-oriented workflows, where entering a directory provokes direnv to run nix-shell and load a working environment.
<mananamenos>
how do I make emacs see the exported variables from .bashrc?
<simpson>
Like, yes, users are the correct abstraction for separating privileges in general, but if the *only* privileges that differ are which packages are accessible, then Nix already does this sort of privilege separation for us.
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<LogicalOverflow>
simpson: My use-case is not just about software/privileges. It's also about making it harder to swap what I - as a human - am doing. So the abstraction is less about privileges and more about the "mental-context" I am currently in.
<simpson>
LogicalOverflow: That sounds backwards IMO. Like, taking that a little futher logically, would you prefer to work on a raw VT without Xorg, so that the lack of workspaces and job control forces you to be focused?
<simpson>
Anyway, sure, when using direnv, there's a cost to `cd` as direnv has to reload the environment and potentially invoke Nix. Indeed sometimes Nix has to do some non-trivial building and the shell is unavailable for several minutes. So it's possible to still have that feeling of regret.
<simpson>
mananamenos: I'm sorry, I don't know anything about emacs, but there is a #nixos-emacs channel that might be able to help.
<simpson>
LogicalOverflow: Sure. Write functions which are parameterized on user name; they take a user name and return a NixOS module (or some fragment of configuration). Then you can call those functions repeatedly to build up your configuration.
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<simpson>
It doesn't fit all nicely into the module paradigm unfortunately; NixOS modules don't have a good way to export Nix code and not configuration. (I've seen a couple techniques and am looking to find one which is at all documented.)
<LogicalOverflow>
abathur: Thanks! I'll look through that.
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<abathur>
it's host-oriented, but I think the way it is using imports to DRY some things might at least be helpful to see
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<LogicalOverflow>
simpson: That makes senses. So, I found this SO answer (https://stackoverflow.com/a/47654799/5189673) and I guess I could do it that way. Am I right assuming I would just put `(import ./path/to/module.nix "username")` in my imports list (And my module file contains a higher-order function with one parameter returning the actual module-function)?
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #98055 → python3Packages.graphite_beacon: fix deps, add nixos test → https://git.io/JUBmu
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[nixpkgs] @anoother opened pull request #98056 → Update f2fs-utils to 1.14.0 → https://git.io/JUBmV
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[nixpkgs] @ferranpujolcamins opened pull request #98057 → chromaprint: add darwin compatibility → https://git.io/JUBmK
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[nixpkgs] @mlvzk opened pull request #98058 → manix: init at 0.6.2 → https://git.io/JUBmD
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<marble_visions>
hi all, how do updates to nixpkgs propagate to nixos channels? do devs/maintainers explicitly push new versions to channels, or test-passing packages from unstable get included automatically?
<samueldr>
there won't be changes contributed back to the previous stable version around once 20.09 gets out
<samueldr>
that includes security patches, and any package upgrades
<simpson>
"forever" is only a few years in practice. (You can continue to build for years to decades, depending on upstream package availability, but eventually the system integrations will get too much to handle.)
<marble_visions>
right.. so for nixos, only the latest version is supported, not latest + latest-1?
<marble_visions>
how should i upgrade when a new version comes out? just switch out channels and update configuration.nix?
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<marble_visions>
i see a few hints in the manual that there might be issues if nix changes something
<samueldr>
there might be configuration options that you'll need to change
<marble_visions>
samueldr++ thanks
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samueldr's karma got increased to 267, that's Numberwang!
<marble_visions>
nice
<marble_visions>
is YY.03 YY.09 the bi-yearly release schedule?
<cransom>
yes.
<marble_visions>
thanks, good to know and plan for it
<samueldr>
there is a desire to have a longer support schedule, either through choosing one as an LTS, or simply supporting the previous version for longer... but that is not currently possible with the way support is being done
<samueldr>
support is being done as a best effort from the community, rather than having employees working on the distribution
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<marble_visions>
right
<marble_visions>
how do you imagine it being different if there were dedicated people? maybe fix backporting issues?
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<marble_visions>
if something like LTS comes to light
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<marble_visions>
or some whole new process needs to be designed and implemented from scratch?
<gchristensen>
an LTS is a 10s-of-millions-of-dollars affair, to hire and maintain a team long enough for it to matter
<zeta_0>
hey there, i downloaded this nix file for packettracer that was recommended to me by someone on github: https://gist.github.com/buckley310/b4e718e71fb1c7403fb4ceb8fabbc1c4 , anyways, it works fine in a nix-shell, but when i tried to place the nix file in my home.nix home packages: `(import ./packet_tracer.nix { inherit pkgs; })`, it threw this error? `error: anonymous function at /home/zeta/.config/nixpkgs/packet_tr
<zeta_0>
acer.nix:1:1 called without required argument 'stdenv', at /home/zeta/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix:304:12`
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed to release-20.09 « python3Packages.graphite_beacon: fix deps, add nixos test »: https://git.io/JUBYa
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<zeta_0>
cransom: that worked, thanks, i got confused between callPackage and import, so i'm going to read some the nix documentation on them.
<zeta_0>
cransom++
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<zeta_0>
with the help of some buckley310 on gitub, i'm finally able to get packet tracer running in nixos, it was very painful having to run packet tracer in ubuntu in virtualbox with xmonad, so i'm glad that i don't have to worry about that anymore ! https://gist.github.com/buckley310/b4e718e71fb1c7403fb4ceb8fabbc1c4
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<zeta_0>
colemickens: ^
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<oxa>
Hello, anyone familar with node packages? I'm packaging something need node packages for build dependency (not a part of output). I found there's a global node-package.nix (pkgs/development/node-packages/node-packages.nix). Do I need to put this dep in global and regenerate it, or use node2nix to get a standalone node-package.nix?
<oxa>
I found the global node-package.nix is quite often to get updated, which leads to merge conflict if my PR is not merged for a while.
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<zeorin>
Hello all, I'm running i3 on nixos and I'm trying to set up automounting USB. I know i3 has nothing to do with it. So far I have PCManFM installed, and the `gvfs`, `udisks2`, and `devmon` services enabled, but no dice.
<cole-h>
You sure you have `services.gvfs.enable = true;`? Works flawlessly for me.
<cole-h>
Could you see if automount works with the `gnome3.nautilus` package?
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Found in packages: postgresql95, postgresql96, postgresql_10, postgresql_11, postgresql_12
<selfsymmetric-pa>
Huh. That doesn't work on my local `nix-locate`, even though I indexed it.
<selfsymmetric-pa>
Maybe it failed and I didn't recognize it.
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<infinisi1>
selfsymmetric-pa: How long ago did you index it?
<infinisi1>
There was a recent problem with hydra that caused the indices to not contain most packages
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<selfsymmetric-pa>
Oh! That might be it. I'll try right now. :)
<selfsymmetric-pa>
infinisi1++
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<selfsymmetric-pa>
Working on your alt accounts I see ;)
<infinisi1>
Oh snap what happened to my nick!
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<selfsymmetric-pa>
infinisil++
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<selfsymmetric-pa>
there we go hahaha
<infinisil>
:P
<tobiasBora>
Hello, since I "upgraded" to nix flake, when a sha256 does not match I have a message that provides me the good hash... but in a quite strange format (base-64?): 0qCI0dL+bQBv3P4AdeEoLus3wh7eqYWibOyjpnabFTc=
<tobiasBora>
should I use this hash in nixpkgs repo? If not how can I get back to the usual hash (a-z0-9)?
<tobiasBora>
(actually a-f0-9)
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<tobiasBora>
also, in python packages, I see some packages in buildInputs, like buildInputs = [ pytest ];, and some packages in propagatedBuildInputs, like propagatedBuildInputs = [ pytest-flakes pytestpep8 tox ];
<tobiasBora>
why is pytest only in buildInputs and not in propagated buildInputs?
<tobiasBora>
mvnetbiz_: yeah, but I'm packaging pytest-codestyle (tired of seing pycheck-quickcheck broken), so I'm affraid it's actually considered as a pytest plugin
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[nixos-homepage] @samueldr pushed 3 commits to feature/2020-redesign: https://git.io/JUBnP
<cole-h>
infinisil: I'm comparing my `config.system.build`'s `attrNames` that I would get from using `<nixpkgs>/nixos/default.nix` and from using `lib.nixosSystem` (provided for flakes)
<cole-h>
So there's not a real easy way aside from getting a list of strings :P
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<infinisil>
cole-h: Comparing them what for?
<infinisil>
But if you just want to know common attribute names, no need to first attrNames on them, because you can just do `attrNames (intersectAttrs foo.config.system.build bar.config.system.build)`
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<cole-h>
infinisil: Because nixosSystem doesn't provide `isoImage`, so I can't `nix build .#nixosConfigurations.scadrial.config.system.build.isoImage`
<cole-h>
I'm trying to see what other attrs are missing
<infinisil>
Oh for that you need to include nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/iso-image.nix
<infinisil>
That shouldn't be added by default for both flakes and non-flakes
<cole-h>
It looks like it changes some other things, so I'd rather not include it wholesale
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<infinisil>
Hm indeed
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<cole-h>
So really, I think I want a `unionAttrs`?
<infinisil>
cole-h: And that would do what?
<infinisil>
Oh
<infinisil>
That's just `//`
<cole-h>
maybe not then
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<cole-h>
I want `--` for lists that functions opposite of `++` lol
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[nixos-homepage] @samueldr pushed to feature/2020-redesign « site-styles: Add configuration option for width workarounds »: https://git.io/JUBcE
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<infinisil>
Or for attribute sets there's `removeAttrs <attributeset> [ "foo" ]`
<cole-h>
mvnetbiz_++
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<cole-h>
isoImage and squashfsStore are missing from the flake's `nixosSystem`
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<mvnetbiz_>
are you flattening every nixos attribute to a list of the whole attributes path?
<cole-h>
No, just those of `config.system.build`
<mvnetbiz_>
oh, I was wondering how long the other way would take :)
<cole-h>
Probably a while lol
<tobiasBora>
I'm building a library, but it cannot be build with python <= 3.5 (i.e does not work with python 2). Should I put it in top-level/python-packages.nix, or in another file?
<mvnetbiz_>
tobiasBora, is it the pytest-codestyle?
<tobiasBora>
mvnetbiz_: yes
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<bbigras>
b42: what's that? better than tlp?
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<b42>
bbigras: with no other upower settings it does hybrid suspend when 2% of battery is left
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<b42>
saved me like 10 times already
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<bbigras>
b42: oh nice. only on 2% bat? not when the lid is closed? I heard that hybrid suspend might not be ideal on a laptop when we close the lid since normally we move the laptop quickly after doing it and the suspend takes a while.
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<earldouglas>
Is there a way to use buildPythonApplication in conjunction with `nix-env -i -f default.nix`? When I run the resulting build, it complains about missing python and the necessary modules.
<earldouglas>
It works fine with `nix-build`, followed by ./result/bin/foo.
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