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<jlv> I'm trying to get NixOS up and running on a GPD Pocket 2, and I'm running into some weird issues with closing the lid. I want to turn off the display but not suspend, when the lid is closed. I tried setting `services.logind.lidSwitch = "ignore"`, but now when I close the lid, the display turns black but the backlight increases to max, and when I
<jlv> open the lid, the display is stuck like that. Anyone ever run into an issue like this or have any suggestions?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #83727 → pgformatter: 4.2 -> 4.3 → https://git.io/Jv739
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<avn> adisbladis: ty, napalm should work for us (I hope ;)))
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<adisbladis> I'm curious how napalm is intended to deal with native dependencies..
<andi-> subprocess.Popen..
<gchristensen> builtins.exec?
<adisbladis> Huh?
<gchristensen> (kidding)
<adisbladis> I mean I don't see any override mechanism
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<adisbladis> At least no composable one
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #83707 → groonga: 9.1.2 -> 10.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv7Lc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv735
<adisbladis> But I guess the approach taken means you're gonna have to figure out what overrides you need again, and again and...
<avn> adisbladis: I have simple angular based project, which need assistance (produce unified build/development for all ppl).
<avn> (angular and some typescript)
<risson> Hi! Can I use nix-shell inside a systemd service, and if yes, how would I go about it?
<{^_^}> #37010 (by mguentner, 2 years ago, open): buildRustPackage does not work with private/ssh dependencies
<avn> risson: in theory -- yes, although you probably need to supply NIX_PATH manually. And not sure how it practically useful
<risson> I want to deploy a django application whose dependencies are specified with pipenv
<risson> Now, I do have a mkShell expression to get in a shell with all those dependencies, and I don't want to package all of them, because it would take me all night
<risson> And I'd like to finish this so I can sleep
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<avn> better postpone it to morning ;)
<adisbladis> "Friends dont let friends use Pipenv" - adisbladis
<risson> Yes I know, but I want it to be deployed by morning
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #83724 → ripgrep: 12.0.0 -> 12.0.1 → https://git.io/Jv7OP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv73A
<risson> adisbladis: you're so right
<avn> ifd with pipenv then? ;)
<risson> ifd ?
<adisbladis> avn: Just use something sane, like Poetry.
<avn> I miss poetty, napalm and few other things (diving up from yocto/petalinux/docker madness)
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<risson> Oh but wait, I have a docker image too! Hell, I'll deploy that now and package the whole stuff tomorrow, maybe move to poetry :D
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c7363c2b97e (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.09)
<adisbladis> risson: If you move to Poetry: https://github.com/nix-community/poetry2nix :)
<risson> Yes I saw that! Thanks :D
<adisbladis> I started on a pipenv version before that, but gave up.
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<adisbladis> I'm very happy I gave up
<risson> I'll do that then :D
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<risson> adisbladis: do you have some examples of `shell.nix` I can use with poetry?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ikervagyok opened pull request #83728 → teamspeak-client: 3.3.2 -> 3.5.1 → https://git.io/Jv7sq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #73941 → klayout: init at 0.26.2 → https://git.io/Jein7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @knedlsepp to master « klayout: init at 0.26.2 (#73941) »: https://git.io/Jv7sm
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<adisbladis> risson: http://ix.io/2fWz/nix
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<adisbladis> And a default.nix is very similar: http://ix.io/2fWA
<risson> Thanks :D
<energizer> adisbladis: (re the pyarrow issue) do you have thoughts on what steps would be required to make that work without cheating?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #83650 → pspg: 2.6.6 -> 2.7.1 → https://git.io/JvQSo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7sE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #83729 → fluent-bit: 1.4.0 -> 1.4.1 → https://git.io/Jv7sr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Jv7sK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #83634 → ameba: 0.11.0 -> 0.12.0 → https://git.io/JvQwd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7si
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83730 → kotlin: 1.3.70 -> 1.3.71 → https://git.io/Jv7sp
<jlv> Are there any options other than `services.logind.lidSwitch`, and its variants, that control what happens when the lid of a laptop closes? Setting logind to `"ignore"` does not actually result in nothing happening when the lid closes. Something is still trying to (badly) disable the display.
<b42> jlv: there's services.upower.ignoreLid but not sure whether that's releavnt
<jlv> b42: I don't have `services.upower` enabled, so I assume that won't affect anything.
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<cole-h> ,exec
<{^_^}> builtins.exec i̢s a ͡h͞ìd̢d́e̢n͡ ̕u̢n̢safe̷ i̛m͠pu̴r̡e ̶Nix ̴2̛.0 ̡f̀ea͡t͜ure to ͢e̷x̧ecut͏e ̧ar̴b͟itŕary ̷c͡omm̨and̴s d̵u͟ri͡ng҉ ͡Ni҉x e̢val̶u͜a͞ti͞on̡. Doņ'̕t̕ use̸ it̴!͟ E̴n̵ab͠l̛e ̕wi̶t͏h̛ ̛` `--option allow-unsafe-native-code-during-evaluation true`,͜ M̡o͝re͡ ͜inf͜ò: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/commit/0bb8db25
<cole-h> lmao
<cole-h> Cursed zalgo text to prevent easy copy-pasta
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83731 → kubeseal: 0.10.0 -> 0.12.0 → https://git.io/Jv7GS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jansol opened pull request #83732 → xow: init at 0.3 → https://git.io/Jv7Zc
<DigitalKiwi> hope nobody uses a screen reader
<adisbladis> Basically replicated the nixpkgs expression
<energizer> adisbladis: nice!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #83697 → ghc-8.4.4.nix: Do not use git.haskell.org → https://git.io/Jv7vg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7Za
<energizer> adisbladis: does using pkgs.arrow-cpp like that mean it might get the wrong version of arrow-cpp?
<adisbladis> Perhaps? I'm not sure. Do you need matching versions of arrow-cpp & pyarrow ?
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<adisbladis> That would violate the lock file
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<adisbladis> Other options: Use wheel by default (I dont like this), assert the versions match (also not a fan)
<adisbladis> But of the two I think an assert is the better option.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mjlbach opened pull request #83733 → [20.03] Backport nvidia optical flow sdk → https://git.io/Jv7nf
<energizer> i'm actually not sure if they need to be matching
<rajivr___> What would be the correct way to override `buildInputs` attribute in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/tools/security/pass/extensions/import.nix#L23
<rajivr___> I tried to do `passExtensions.pass-import = super.passExtensions.pass-import.overrideAttrs (import ./pass-import);` in an overlay, but that doesn't seem to work.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83734 → libpst: 0.6.74 -> 0.6.75 → https://git.io/Jv7nT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #82158 → [wip] appimageTools: add a new buildAppImage wrapper → https://git.io/JvoVb
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<missionformilk> hello
<missionformilk> anyone have any experience working with holochain/basic-chat?
<missionformilk> nvm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cole-h opened pull request #83735 → zoxide: 0.2.2 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/Jv7cl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83736 → libsignal-protocol-c: 2.3.2 -> 2.3.3 → https://git.io/Jv7c4
<romildo> How to find out why a package is installed in NixOS? That is, it is a dependency of which packages?
<cole-h> `nix why-depends pkgs depends` I think is the syntax
<missionformilk> on OS X, any clue why the /Users/<username>/default.nix would be missing immediately after installing and exiting the nix-shell?
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<cole-h> Did it exist before?
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<missionformilk> i'm not sure... i was running a build/installer before i had a chance to do anything after nix was installed
<cole-h> Well, Nix won't create a default.nix for you, AFAIK
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<missionformilk> so would it make since to clone this entire repo? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/lib/default.nix
<cole-h> What are you trying to do?
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<missionformilk> high level, i've been trying to run holochain/basic-chat to get started with holochain
<missionformilk> most immediately, trying to run nix-shell, but getting this default.nix missing error
<cole-h> You need to cd into the basic-chat repository
<cole-h> Then it will work (because that's where the default.nix is)
<missionformilk> you got me
<missionformilk> thank you, cole-h
<cole-h> :P
<missionformilk> oh wow, i closed my terminal and now nix isn't even installed anywhere else
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #83737 → libxml2,libxslt: fix pythonSupport=false override → https://git.io/Jv7cA
<missionformilk> nvm
<missionformilk> i just need a nap
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<evils> anyone know how to get hydra to build the dependencies of a package without building the package itself?
<glittershark> not hydra, but iirc you can build the build environment of a `mkDerivation` with `-A env`
<cole-h> If you know the dependencies by attr, you can `@GrahamcOfBorg build <attr1> <attr2> <attr3>`, assuming this is on a PR
<evils> it's for the kicad package, i want kicad.base and kicad.libraries (minus packages3d) to be built, and if a user wants kicad, they get all the components hydra can build, and "build" the packages3d part locally
<evils> well, for kicad specifically, there's kicad-small that has everything minus packages3d; i'm trying to avoid adding a kicad-unstable-small to get kicad-unstable to work
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danielfullmer opened pull request #83738 → hcxdumptool: init at 6.0.3 → https://git.io/Jv7C6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danielfullmer opened pull request #83739 → pyrit: init at 2019-12-13 → https://git.io/Jv7CX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #83735 → zoxide: 0.2.2 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/Jv7cl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7CH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83740 → mednafen: 1.22.2 -> 1.24.1 → https://git.io/Jv7WI
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<pjt_014> Is stdenv different depending on architecture?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #83128 → ffado: 2.4.1 -> 2.4.2 → https://git.io/Jv7W3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7Ws
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<gchristensen> pjt_014: I think only macos has a different stdenv
<pjt_014> Hm. Guess stdenv may not be my problem then.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83741 → mediawiki: 1.34.0 -> 1.34.1 → https://git.io/Jv7Wu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #82200 → ledger-live-desktop: 1.20.0 -> 2.1.0 → https://git.io/Jvo5P
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7Wz
<pjt_014> Actually Is there anything that would make it behave differently depending on arch? Like say not being able to find another import?
<cole-h> Can you share any more information?
<pjt_014> Sure.
<pjt_014> I have a bug I'm trying to fix
<{^_^}> #83575 (by petersjt014, 1 day ago, open): dvtm doesn't build for aarch64
<pjt_014> It's getting a bit frustrating because I don't see many places for something to go wrong
<pjt_014> The problem seems to be with ncurses, but I can't tell how
<pjt_014> It's either that or something about the patch applied here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/tools/misc/dvtm/default.nix
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<pjt_014> or in dvtm.nix maybe
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<cole-h> It might be because it's trying to run /bin/sh -- `dvtm-status`, `dvtm-pager`, and `testsuite.sh` all have a /bin/sh shebang
<cole-h> Doesn't look like patchShebangs is happening anywhere; maybe try that?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #81647 → [20.03] python3Packages.monosat: Fix Python 3.8 build → https://git.io/JvalI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 3 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/Jv7Wo
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<cole-h> Try putting `patchShebangs <those files>` in your `postPatch`
<cole-h> pjt_014:
<pjt_014> Would I be importing that in default.nix?
<cole-h> Nope, patchShebangs is available by default
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dkudriavtsev opened pull request #83742 → multimc: 0.6.7 -> 0.6.11 → https://git.io/Jv7WK
<cole-h> Or at least, none of the files I just looked at declared it... maybe it's part of something else. Let me know if it doesn't actually work
<pjt_014> I'm gonna need to go off and find an example. Haven't used it before.
<cole-h> Just point it at a file
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<cole-h> And it'll rewrite the shebang to be the binary in the store
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<pjt_014> I'll try to figure it out
<pjt_014> gonna need like ~30m
<cole-h> That how long it takes to build?
<pjt_014> No, I just barely know what I'm doing
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<pjt_014> I've been at this on and off a week or so and this is the most progress I've made so far
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83743 → liquibase: 3.8.7 -> 3.8.8 → https://git.io/Jv7Wi
<cole-h> Keep it up!
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<pjt_014> I'm cloning nixpkgs right now, just waitin..
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83744 → alephone-infinity: 20150620 -> 20190331 → https://git.io/Jv7W1
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<pjt_014> Okay, I'm in the relevant path in my copy of the git repo. Am I just adding the relevant line somewhere?
<pjt_014> Also how do I test this? nix-shell somehow?
<thefloweringash> gchristensen: I think channels.nix.gsc.io is slightly broken, the /latest-url for nixos-unstable is pointing to https://channels.nixos.org/nixos-unstable. It used to point to a particular revision of nixpkgs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @delroth opened pull request #83745 → jadx: init at 1.1.0 → https://git.io/Jv7WQ
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<cole-h> You can modify the derivation you want to build (dvtm) and then use `nix-build -A pkgsCross.aarch64-multiplatform.dvtm` and see if that works
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<pjt_014> cole-h: I added "patchShebangs --build default.nix" to the postPatch section and ran that build cmd
<pjt_014> got "error: cannot auto-call a function that has an argument without a default value ('callPackage')"
<pjt_014> same with "--build configure"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #83747 → pythonPackages.pyarrow: remove dead code in preCheck, use pytestCheckHook → https://git.io/Jv7lL
<pjt_014> same error when I call it without the patch line
<cole-h> You should be running patchShebangs on the scripts from dvtm, not the Nix files :P
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<pjt_014> okay, but running them where?? I get the problem now (the paths are wrong), but not the fix
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<pjt_014> If I'm just patching some things locally how am I suposed to be able to push/pr that?
<pjt_014> Not sure I get it
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<hyper_ch> pjt_014: you clone the nixos-repository, create a new branch, add your patches/fixes/changes to it, commit, push it to your github repo and then make a pull request
<pjt_014> That much I know. It's just the way cole-h described the fix made it seem like I needed to patch individual scripts in the store, which wouldn't make sense.
<pjt_014> I'm browsing around for an example of this kind of fix right now cause I still can't tell how it's supposed to work.
<hyper_ch> you have a seperate patch file?
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<pjt_014> No, I'm still figuring out how to actually fix this specific thing. Haven't done it before.
<pjt_014> hyper_ch: this to be specific: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/83575
<{^_^}> #83575 (by petersjt014, 2 days ago, open): dvtm doesn't build for aarch64
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #83748 → pythonPackages.docker: use dontUseSetuptoolsCheck → https://git.io/Jv7lE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb opened pull request #83749 → WIP: ceph: 14.2.7 -> 14.2.8 → https://git.io/Jv7lr
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<srhb> pjt_014: If you intend to PR, it's indeed easier to work with a local checkout, in which case from the root of it you can use nix-build . -A yourpackage
<srhb> pjt_014: (That is, after modifying the appropriate file)
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<pjt_014> srhb: thanks, that was the cmd I was looking for. I assume it uses the default.nix of the dir I'm in?
<srhb> pjt_014: Yes. In fact, even . can be ommitted, and it will still do so.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83750 → mpd: 0.21.20 -> 0.21.21 → https://git.io/Jv7lF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #80522 → brotab: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.1 → https://git.io/JvBIB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv78v
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<mica[m]> How does the option docker-container update the container? Is there documentation somewhere I'm missing?
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<mica[m]> srhb: thanks
<srhb> mica[m]: (It looks to me like it will simply be stopped/started like any other changed unit)
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<mica[m]> srhb: yes, but how is the container updated? Or discarded and the new version pulled
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<clever> mica[m]: line 173, it just does `docker run --rm ...` against the name, which i think it pulls from dockerhub
<clever> mica[m]: but once in docker, it wont pull again
<srhb> mica[m]: It's just regular docker semantics, as far as I can see. If you change the name (say, to a newer tag) that one will be grabbed.
<srhb> Sorry, the *image* in the option terminology.
<srhb> It's up to docker to resolve that image into some version (and I think not specifying a tag implies "latest" -- but I don't recall the semantics. All I do remember is that not specifying a specific, versioned tag is scary, because you'll be running "some version god knows which")
<mica[m]> thanks to both of you
<mica[m]> looks like every time the unit starts, it fetches the image? since running docker with `-rm` will remove the container image after the service stops
<mica[m]> does that sound correct?
<srhb> mica[m]: I don't think removes the _image_, only the container
<clever> mica[m]: the --rm says to delete the container, but not the image
<clever> mica[m]: so all state will be lost at stop, and it will start fresh from the image
<srhb> But I don't recall whether docker will try and re-resolve the "latest" tag each time you try to run a container from that image.
<srhb> You'll have to test that.
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<pjt_014> srhb: I'm in my local checkout in nixpkgs/pkgs/tools/misc/dvtm, and running nix-build . -A dvtm gives an error: "cannot auto-call a function without a default value ('callPackage')"
<srhb> pjt_014: Stand at the root of the nixpkgs repo
<pjt_014> ah
<srhb> pjt_014: The individual package expressions are meant to be called via callPackage (which provides all the dependency arguments) -- the top level nixpkgs expression takes care of that.
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<srhb> pjt_014: To call an individual package with your system nixpkgs, you'd stand in the package expression dir and do something like `nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; callPackage ./. {}'`
<srhb> But I usually do the former, since that ensures you're using the checkout version of nixpkgs to build the package.
<mica[m]> it seems there is a strong trend to not use the "latest" tag in docker if you're shipping an image for production. So one would need to update the nix config file every time a new docker image comes out.
<srhb> mica[m]: Yeah.
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<srhb> mica[m]: Silently self-updating packages is generally quite scary.
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<srhb> mica[m]: It's usually better to automate the update process (say, finding the new tag and automatically writing it to some file readable by nix)
<mica[m]> srhb: I've been experimenting with some non-critical software about how lazy I can actually be.
<pjt_014> Well I can replicate the error with the aarch64 version. Just need to figure out how to fix it now
<mica[m]> apparently the problem with the latest tag is how docker doesn't try and pull when starting.
<srhb> mica[m]: This is of course just my Opinion^{tm} but my rule of thumb is that any update of any package needs action from me. That action may be as simple as ./update-all-the-things.sh followed by a git commit and a rebuild. I may get a lot of new versions, but it corresponds to a commit that I can revert whenever I want to.
<mica[m]> sorry, trying to learn about docker inside nix.
<srhb> mica[m]: There's probably some force pull mechanism you can feed to extra options for the run command, but I strongly advise against this approach. :)
<mica[m]> srhb: yes I understand
<mica[m]> I've been using the snap of nextcloud on ubuntu, and it has worked pretty well. I was wondering how I could do it similarly in Nix :)
<srhb> Apparently it's called --pull=always
<srhb> But I definitely prefer the two-phased approach that update the tag, then deploys a reproducible tag.
<mica[m]> srhb: I understand, thank you for taking the time to help me.
<srhb> Sure thing :)
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<pjt_014> srhb: After looking thru some examples, I tried "patchShebangs ." in dvtm.nix. The error is unchanged.
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<pjt_014> I don't need to do something else to make nix see it, do I?
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<srhb> pjt_014: If you're unsure whether your changes are taking effect, you can put in a big fat exit 1 or echo "pjt_014 debug message" somewhere in the build and confirm for yourself :)
<pjt_014> good ol' "echo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" it is then
<srhb> Yep. ;-)
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<pjt_014> ...aaaaand nope. not there.
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<srhb> pjt_014: OK, where did you make the changes and what command did you run?
<pjt_014> In checkout_root/pkgs/tools/misc/dvtm/dvtm.nix, I added a line to the postPatch block that reads 'patchShebangs .' Then in checkout_root I ran nix-build -A pkgsCross.aarch64-multiplatform.dvtm
<srhb> pjt_014: Notice that the postPatch phase is guarded by `optionalString`
<pjt_014> conditional on customConfig, yeah
<srhb> Did you set that somewhere?
<pjt_014> set what? it's only an import, right?
<srhb> pjt_014: What I'm trying to say is: If you put it in the string that's guarded by customConfig, and didn't append it unconditionally, you'll need to set customConfig in order for it to take effect.
<srhb> pjt_014: I *think* what you want is to either unconditionally append something to postPatch, or conditionally append based on architecture. For now, you could just do the unconditional append to start debugging.
<pjt_014> ah. I take it it's a ++ or something to that effect?
<srhb> pjt_014: Yes.
<srhb> > ''foo'' + ''bar''
<{^_^}> "foobar"
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<est31> danderson: so I could confirm that I'm indeed affected by this bug: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/issues/883
<est31> the mentioned workarounds work
<Izorkin> Mic92: really added this patch to zfs? - https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/9961
<{^_^}> openzfs/zfs#9961 (by behlendorf, 7 weeks ago, closed): Linux 5.6 compat
<est31> danderson: as in, reverting the x86f driver commit, as well as changing to a tty before closing the lid
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<danderson> weird that I'm not hitting the problem
<s1341> morning all
<s1341> so my PR (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/82949) has been approved, but not yet merged...
<{^_^}> #82949 (by s1341, 1 week ago, open): page: init at 2.3.4
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<s1341> is there something more i need to do to get it merged?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cole-h opened pull request #83753 → rofi-emoji: init at 2.1.1 → https://git.io/Jv747
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<est31> danderson: yeah
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<est31> maybe different firmware versions?
<est31> or due to differences in the precise gpu/cpu model?
<est31> idk
<pjt_014> srhb: ...''\n ++ '' \n echo AAAAAAAA \n ''; gives me "value is a string when a list was expected"
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<pjt_014> which is weird because I don't see why it'd expect a list when it already was an optionalString
<cole-h> pjt_014: (before I head out) should be a singular plus, not plus-plus
<cole-h> ...'' + '' echo asdf'';
<pjt_014> ah, thanks
<cole-h> > [ 1 2 3 ] ++ [ 4 5 6 ]
<{^_^}> [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 ]
<cole-h> vs
<cole-h> > "1 2 3 " + "4 5 6"
<{^_^}> "1 2 3 4 5 6"
<est31> danderson: about the static issue I can't reproduce it any more so maybe I'm lucky
<pjt_014> okay that is much better
<cole-h> Good luck, sorry I wasn't of more help earlier
<pjt_014> No it's fine
<pjt_014> this is the most progress I've made on this in the past three days :D
<cole-h> :)
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<pjt_014> alrighty
<pjt_014> two files in . (wherever that is here) get patched now
<pjt_014> It's still getting the error while compiling, but it's a start
<srhb> pjt_014: What's the problem exactly?
<pjt_014> while compiling:
<pjt_014> installing terminfo description
<pjt_014> make: *** [Makefile:59: install] Error 127
<pjt_014> whoops it ate a line
<srhb> pjt_014: You probably want to pastebin multiline output anyway
<srhb> Or the spam bot might get you.
<pjt_014> well the line between is "/bin/sh: tic: not found"
<pjt_014> only when compiling for aarch64
<srhb> pjt_014: What is tic?
<pjt_014> or armv6l
<pjt_014> ,man tic
<pjt_014> well that doesnt work
<pjt_014> anyeway
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<pjt_014> terminfo entry-description compiler
<pjt_014> so says the manpage
<srhb> pjt_014: Is it included as a dependency of the package? or vendored with it?
<pjt_014> it should be according to happyface bot
<pjt_014> ,locate tic
<{^_^}> Found in packages: ncurses, ncurses5
<bqv[m]> cat but backwards?
<bqv[m]> Wait no thats tac
<pjt_014> and ncurses is imported
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<pjt_014> I have actually needed tac before like one time
<srhb> pjt_014: Have you found where in the sources tic is called? It might not be a shebang.
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<srhb> pjt_014: In which case patchShebangs can't help you.
<pjt_014> stdout just says 'installing terminfo description'. I'd have to poke around unless --verbose can tell me.
<srhb> pjt_014: Or grep might help. But try simply calling tic --help in prePatch or something
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<srhb> pjt_014: Maybe tic isn't included in the aarch version of ncurses
<pjt_014> oooh a subtle bug
<pjt_014> spicy
<bqv[m]> Or just, look in ncurses…
<srhb> pjt_014: I'm just spitballing, hopefully gives you something to go on.
<pjt_014> It def does.
<srhb> (The error message implies to me that it's not a shebang, that it's trying to call tic from $PATH, and it's not there)
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<pjt_014> On a quasi-whim, I'm gonna put echo $PATH in the postPatch block
<pjt_014> oh yeah
<pjt_014> nix paths are hUge
<pjt_014> well then
<bqv[m]> Pipe it into tr ':' '\n'
<pjt_014> its R E G E X T I M E
<pjt_014> or that
<bqv[m]> Its unusable otherwise
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #83755 → libjcat: init at 0.1.0 → https://git.io/Jv7BB
<charukiewicz> I ran into an issue on an EC2 instance where my disk became full while running nix-copy-closure and after reboot I can't SSH into the machine. I tried mounting the volume onto another NixOS machine, and I can do so successfully, but I'm not sure how I can repair the system. Is there some command I can run on the temporarily mounted nix-store to repair it?
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<pjt_014> Do you have nixos-enter available?
<charukiewicz> Yes
<pjt_014> If a lack of disk space is the problem, a single nix-collect-garbage would free it up
<charukiewicz> Well this is the error that nix-copy-closure failed at:
<charukiewicz> error: creating symlink from '/nix/store/24r4sj37nd72bwgsfjwfxp76j8aq4ggh-system-path/sbin/grub-mkimage' to '/nix/store/z5h7hcvbzvy9sjazplmkpq59q8iyhh7k-grub-2.04/sbin/grub-mkimage': No space left on device
<charukiewicz> So I assume there may be a grub issue
<pjt_014> Well that might need fixing too, but freeing up that space would give you some spare room to work with
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<srhb> You need more flags to nix-collect-garbage to start deleting older kernels.
<pjt_014> nix optimise-store couldn't hurt either, once you have your system ssh-able and want to try the copy again
<srhb> The problem in this case looks like the boot partition
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<srhb> So just collecting garbage in the store won't make a difference.
<pjt_014> wouldn't it with -d?
<srhb> pjt_014: Yes.
<pjt_014> the ol' nuclear option.
<srhb> That will delete older system generations and free up space for rebuild boot.
<srhb> (Well, --delete-older-than 30d or something might be the less nuclear option)
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<pjt_014> charukiewicz: you might also try nix-env --delete-generations +2 or something to that effect
<charukiewicz> okay
<pjt_014> and then the garb. collect
<charukiewicz> How can I list generations?
<pjt_014> nix-env --list-generation
<pjt_014> --list-generations
<pjt_014> escuse the typo
<charukiewicz> no problem
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<charukiewicz> So it looks like the method I've been using for deployments hasn't been creating new generations, so there were only two on the system, back from Nov 2019. I've deployed several times since then.
<srhb> charukiewicz: You may need to point it at --profile /nix/var/nix/profiles/system manually
<charukiewicz> Ah yes, that did the trick
<charukiewicz> 149 generations
<bqv[m]> ,locate log4e
<{^_^}> Couldn't find in any packages
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<charukiewicz> okay so I tried to remount the volume as the root volume on the original instance and it looks like it's still not booting
<charukiewicz> can I do something like nixos-enter followed by nixos-rebuild to force it to rebuild grub, etc?
<pjt_014> You should be able to, yes.
<pjt_014> or nixos-enter /mnt/mountpoint to give you an interactive shell to try it in
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<charukiewicz> Would the nixos-enter chroot have limited network connectivity in some way? I try to nixos-rebuild and I get
<charukiewicz> warning: unable to download 'https://cache.nixos.org/3g2pkmc1s9ycjaxaqc5hrzmq05r5ywbi.narinfo': Couldn't resolve host name (6); retrying in 339 ms
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Jv70u
<pjt_014> what are you using with it? switch?
<charukiewicz> Yes
<pjt_014> try boot, I doubt it'd try to fetch anything
<charukiewicz> Same warning related to not being able to resolve host name
<pjt_014> hm. try --keep-going, it might still be able to build the boot files anyway
<charukiewicz> Looks like the issue is related to the way that the chroot starts. Running top/htop shows that nothing is actually running. The process list is empty other than my bash shell
<xfix> on https://hydra.nixos.org/machines, machine e05744a2 seems to be stuck, all its jobs are executing for at least a day and 8 hours
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<pjt_014> xfix: not sure who here has admin priveleges on hydra and is currently awake
<pjt_014> I know grahamc[m] and clever probably do.
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<pjt_014> oh hey there's a gh page for it: https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues
<pjt_014> charukiewicz: Is that with the interactive version of the shell too?
<xfix> hm, so there is a bug somewhere that causes jobsets to block
<charukiewicz> pjt_014: I found a GH issue that said you could copy /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/etc/ and that would fix the issue. I did that and it seemed to work.
<xfix> it doesn't affect 19.09, apparently
<charukiewicz> But after the nixos-rebuild boot, I unmounted and remounted to my original EC2 instance, still not booting correctly apparently. Can't SSH into it
<pjt_014> The thing you mentioned previously about the rebuild not doing anything according to top--was that incorrect then?
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<charukiewicz> I just meant that no other processes were running in the chroot, I figured something was necessary in order for DNS to get resolved. Looks like it was just missing a /etc/resolv.conf
<charukiewicz> I'm kind of bummed that this happened. It's really not clear to me what it is that caused the machine to enter this state. As I said before, it looks like the disk full error occurred during a grub-related symlink, but I figured the nixos-rebuild would fix that
<pjt_014> Yeah, nixos doesn't always handle full disks well. I've had it where my disk was completely full and I learned that sqlite transactions take a few bytes of disk space to complete :/
<pjt_014> Then again, many things don't as they should (or at all) on a full disk
<pjt_014> like bash autocompletions
<benny> how do I manipulate emacsWithPackages (or otherwise) to provide the emacs with an environment that contains libvterm?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #83756 → ghc-8.4.4.nix: Do not use git.haskell.org → https://git.io/Jv7BD
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<adisbladis> > emacsWithPackages(epkgs: [epkgs.vterm])
<adisbladis> benny: ^
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/vj7l5dnafbgrpqa4ng7j6c4czzyzshzg-emacs-with-packages-26.3.drv>"
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<benny> adisbladis: thanks, I'm using DOOM Emacs and it wants to build it again using straight.el and that fails
<benny> make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'libvterm-prefix/src/libvterm/.libs/libvterm.a', needed by '../vterm-module.so'. Stop.
<adisbladis> benny: That's a completely different issue then.
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<adisbladis> Is there some way you can tell straight.el _not_ to build a dependency?
<benny> that's new after getting the vterm environment set up...
<benny> what I've done before with sqlite is that I set up the environment and just manually build it and placed it in the place it expects the .so
<charukiewicz> Well. After fiddling with this for over an hour, I gave up and deployed a new fresh NixOS machine from the community AMI, updated the IP address, and ran my deploy command. New server up and running in under 5 minutes.
<charukiewicz> pjt_014: thanks for your help. I didn't know about nixos-enter, that's very helpful.
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<pjt_014> no problem :D
<adisbladis> Sounds very hacky :/
<pjt_014> Do be sure to watch your disk space though
<benny> yeah I'm not happy with it, but I would just have it rather work than not ;-)
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<charukiewicz> I guess one question: I was running df -h and it said that I had several gigs free
<adisbladis> I don't have a good solution for you.. You're sadly on your own with doom/spacemacs
<pjt_014> How big was that closure?
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<charukiewicz> Is this "hidden" disk usage related to profiles in /nix/var/nix/profiles/system?
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<charukiewicz> Uh, not sure
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<pjt_014> benny: open a github issue maybe?
<pjt_014> charukiewicz: well what was it?
<charukiewicz> It's a compiled Haskell web server. I assume what actually gets copied isn't that large.
<charukiewicz> I had a 20GB ssd
<benny> what I need is antithetical to nix I find. I need to prove the build environment needed for libvterm into the emacs package for it to work
<pjt_014> If it included ghc then it would be quite large.
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<adisbladis> benny: You're gonna have a bad time with that. The vterm build is not exactly straight forward.
<benny> epkgs: emacsql-sqlite worked to build it while running. (magit-forge needs it)
<adisbladis> It needs the emacs sources for one
<charukiewicz> pjt_014: I'm using the approach described in this post: https://vaibhavsagar.com/blog/2019/08/22/industrial-strength-deployments/
<adisbladis> So you're gonna have to provide that
<charukiewicz> As a lighter alternative to NixOps
<benny> oh yeah I can see how that ups the complexity ;-)
<charukiewicz> I don't think the whole of GHC is part of the closure that gets copied
<adisbladis> Likely you're gonna have to invoke a nix-shell with cmake + libvterm-neovim
<adisbladis> And emacs sources somewhere, and pass the cmake flags: -DEMACS_SOURCE=PATH_TO_EMACS_SOURCES & -DUSE_SYSTEM_LIBVTERM=ON
<pjt_014> It could be. If you do this exact command or similar again, install nq and run it with nq in the front
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<pjt_014> It'll put the output in a file you can tail
<adisbladis> And then at some point in the future it's gonna break again
<pjt_014> also possibly like a 1min timeout
<pjt_014> Or just do tee /dev/tty > log.txt, but nq is a very nice tool :D
<adisbladis> doom/spacemacs may work, but as soon as you get into native dependencies things get hairy
<adisbladis> And they're both too insane to package
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<benny> adisbladis: nix-shell --packages cmake libvterm-neovim and within that shell cmake -DUSE_SYSTEM_LIBVTERM=ON . && make worked
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<charukiewicz> pjt_014: So you're saying next time run: `nq <deployment script>` ?
<benny> yeah but I've been using DOOM since at least 2018 and after 18 years of Emacs I'm just in love with how the configuration is thought out
<benny> so unfortunately nix would be more likely to go than it, because Emacs is everything :P
<adisbladis> I'm seriously pissed off with all "modern" emacs distributions :P
<benny> I can see that, but I've declared .emacs.d bankruptcy so many times
<benny> I'm quite content at the moment with how it's set up even if it's a moving target because it's so collabarative
<pjt_014> charukiewicz: no. Here's what the tool actually is: https://github.com/leahneukirchen/nq
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<adisbladis> benny: My problem is the lack of taste in package management.
<pjt_014> It redirects a command's output to a file and gives you back your terminal. You can then queue up multiple things and they'll run in sequence.
<charukiewicz> Ah I see
<pjt_014> for debugging It's really nice because you dont have to rely on screen backscroll
<adisbladis> They are making it next to impossible for distro packagers
<benny> adisbladis: fair enough, but I think having pinned dependencies like straight.el does is already a bit better than just melpa which is time sensitive
<pjt_014> If you were doing a one-off version of that command and did like nq timeout 1m do-thing, you could look at the log file and see how much stuff it's pulling in
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<charukiewicz> makes sense
<parsnip> did someone say emacs?
<pjt_014> I wouldn't be surprised if that was eating up all the space. GHC is an absolute unit to work with. You ever try to compile it for aarch64?
<charukiewicz> I have not
<charukiewicz> but on that note, I need to head off. thanks again for the help
<pjt_014> one more ting
<pjt_014> consider setting nix.autoOptimiseStore
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<charukiewicz> Ah, interesting
<pjt_014> On a home machine that's a bit rough on a disc for my taste but on a server it's free space reclaiming with no downside really
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<pjt_014> except a spike of cpu/disk usage
<charukiewicz> I'll add it to my configuration
<pjt_014> but you set it to like 4AM and you're fine
<charukiewicz> Thanks
<pjt_014> np
<adisbladis> parsnip: Emacs all day every day ;)
<pjt_014> your main thing is the extra configs piling up
<pjt_014> which you needa figure out eventaully
<pjt_014> but this'll help
<charukiewicz> Yeah looks like it
<charukiewicz> I'll just need to rotate generations
<charukiewicz> instead of keeping them all
<pjt_014> there's an option for that
<pjt_014> can't remember what it's called
<parsnip> i think emacs maintainer uses nix
<pjt_014> but if you have special things you're doing, I'm not sure if that' what you'd want
<pjt_014> either way, not really anything to lose with the autoOpt option
<parsnip> adisbladis: personally i try not to be locked into any given emacs package installer
<parsnip> i'm currently using straight.el, but it's at the beginning of my config, i could easily swap it out
<charukiewicz> Looks like it's under nix.gc.*
<parsnip> also, i'm surprised you used emacs for 18 years and then jumped on doom.
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<parsnip> i mean, i understand their appeal, to some extent.
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<pjt_014> charukiewicz: yeah that'd do it. There's also a different one for how many to keep in the boot menu
<parsnip> i wonder if you could port doom to nix
<pjt_014> prob doesn't apply to a server
<parsnip> does doom use a heavy lock-in to straight.el?
<pjt_014> I would set both of them myself but my server is 26GB and I micromanager every free byte :}
<charukiewicz> okay, I'll look into it tomorrow
<charukiewicz> thanks, take care
<adisbladis> parsnip: I found this effort before https://github.com/vlaci/nix-doom-emacs
<pjt_014> cya
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<bqv[m]> I'm currently porting my emacs.d to nix
<bqv[m]> Like, literally porting it from elisp to nix
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<adisbladis> parsnip: But it's not good enough to go into upstream nixpkgs
<benny> parsnip: back then doom was quite a bit smaller (and sounding like a hipster) I was just coming off of an attempt to use org-babel to organize my .emacs.el
<bqv[m]> Ill post a sample in #freenode_#nixos-emacs:matrix.org later
<adisbladis> We should start our own "community-distribution" ;)
<adisbladis> The tagline can be that stuff actually works out of the box
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<benny> I'm recently quite re-excited by emacs with native emacs lisp compilation for example
<bqv[m]> Lol
<bqv[m]> Nix-straight.el looks neat
<sphalerite> Does anyone have a nice way to run gdb on wrapped programs?
<bqv[m]> Unwrap them :p
<adisbladis> I just don't see the appeal in straight
<adisbladis> It's like nix--
<bqv[m]> I did, before nix
<bqv[m]> Now I've replaced it with nix
<bqv[m]> But on gentoo it was way nicer than the emacs overlay
<benny> to be fair, I think nix is a guix-- ;-)
<pjt_014> sphalerite: I think this is what patchelf is for (?)
<pjt_014> maybe
<pjt_014> the dev side of nixos is not my strong suit
<bqv[m]> benny: only if you're ok with being gnud without consent
<benny> I wouldn't want to use it because I'm pragmatic but it's a lisp and therefor already better in my world and I thought I grasped the definitions while I still struggle with nix's
<parsnip> "the best emacs package manager is neither package.el, nor straight.el. it's nix"
<adisbladis> =)
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<parsnip> the best editor is neither emacs nor vim, it's emacs+evil.el
<bqv[m]> benny: tbh I'm coming around to nix as a language
<parsnip> the best distro is neither spacemacs nor doom. it's ubuntu.
<bqv[m]> parsnip++
<{^_^}> parsnip's karma got increased to 4
<adisbladis> Lol
<benny> man what a revelation evil.el was
<bqv[m]> parsnip--
<parsnip> lol
<adisbladis> Let's start a new emacs distribution called ubuntu-emacs (of course based on nix)
<bqv[m]> emacs, for humans
<pjt_014> sphalerite: you may also want to poke around nixos.wiki, the subreddit (maybe post the question there), and/org ask here again at a later time. Someone who knows may not be here right now because timezones.
<adisbladis> pjt_014: sphalerite is not exactly new to this community ;)
<pjt_014> Sorry, I know like 5 1/2 people here by name
<bqv[m]> sphalerite: for what its worth I've found using gdb on store binaries is an exercise in pain any way you slice it
<adisbladis> pjt_014: It's ok :) You're doing great! It was not at all a criticism
<adisbladis> bqv[m]: Omg I _hate_ that tagline so much
<avn> bqv[m]: nice, does anyone befriuend Nix-straight.el with doom-emacs?
<benny> avn: adisbladis posted this: https://github.com/vlaci/nix-doom-emacs
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<bqv[m]> Haha
<bqv[m]> avn: dunno
<evils> sphalerite: i usually copy the wrapper and add `gdb` to it
<adisbladis> sphalerite: My previous experience debugging store binaries has been to fire up bash and replicate what the wrapper is doing
<adisbladis> Hm, random idea: Wouldn't it be nice if our wrappers had a debug hook?
<adisbladis> NIX_DEBUGGER=gdb some_wrapped_binary
<bqv[m]> Sounds hard to enforce
<bqv[m]> Besides, isn't a bigger issue the lack of symbols?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7zU
<bqv[m]> God bless the nix community
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed commit from @danieldk to release-20.03 « skypeforlinux: support app indicator »: https://git.io/Jv7zL
<sphalerite> pjt_014 adisbladis bqv[m] evils: whoo so many replies :)
<sphalerite> Looks like `gdb bash` -> `r ~/.nix-profile/bin/emacs` worked nicely x)
<avn> benny, adisbladis, bqv[m] -- thank you folks, will try soon
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<avn> rolling up/back doom with emacs and all system is what I miss long time
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<hyper_ch> btw, is anyone here using Waylond with KDE?
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<adisbladis> hyper_ch: Blocked on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/56988
<{^_^}> #56988 (by bkchr, 1 year ago, open): Plasma5: Use upstream xsession/wayland-session files
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #82922 → ejabberd: 20.01 -> 20.03 → https://git.io/Jv1lx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #83759 → Python remove setuptools check with pytest → https://git.io/Jv7zH
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<DigitalKiwi> it me
<hyper_ch> adisbladis: thx :)
<hyper_ch> was interested in it again because I just read that Intel plans give support for HDR in Wayland
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<Mic92> Izorkin yes, could be cherry-picked to zfs-unstable in nixpkgs
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<zupo> does nixos's firewall support whitelisting which IPs have access to a certain port?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau opened pull request #83763 → home-manager: 2020-03-07 -> 2020-03-17 → https://git.io/Jv728
<zupo> I can't find it under https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#networking.firewall
<sphalerite> zupo: not in a nice typed way, but you can use networking.firewall.extraCommands
<zupo> ah, nice!
<zupo> thanks!
<bqv[m]> rycee: hey, have you had any thoughts to how you'd like to support flakes in home-manager?
<bqv[m]> cc timokau
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<bqv[m]> i've been maintaining my fork at bqv/home-manager/flakes, and it works ok, but it's not compatible
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<rycee> bqv: No, I haven't looked at flakes at all yet beside what I saw in Brno. I might have some time in June-July but my schedule is starting to fill up again so it might not be until the fall :-/
<rycee> But I have a long list of other things to work on so flakes is pretty far down the list.
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<bqv[m]> essentially all that needs to change is that <nixpkgs> can't be explicitly used anywhere, and there needs to be a flake.nix, it's not too significant but might require a structural change in iirc 3 or so files?
<bqv[m]> understandable otherwise, though.
<bqv[m]> rycee: would you like to pull my fork into a branch so others can use it?
<bqv[m]> at least leave the maintenance of that branch up to the community
<DigitalKiwi> can you delete /old-root/ after using nixos-infect on a digital ocean host or does it need it for something
<adisbladis> The RFC is not even accepted yet. I'd be wary of putting flakes into too many things until then.
<rycee> Would it be possible to put the flake part in NUR?
<benny> just a bit out left-field: I'm unable to build nixpkgs.graalvm8 and I think (it takes hours to build and then my system crashes) it's because the build process runs out of memory. I'm basically asking how you guys would investigate this
<benny> slow iteration process and system crash is an annoying combination to just try to play around ;-)
<bqv[m]> not really. not without putting the whole flake in
<bqv[m]> adisbladis: it's fairly nonintrusive, in fairness. and i've seen little to no bugs in nixFlakes, besides the one where GC_free causes a segfault when i try and build emacs
<bqv[m]> i don't forsee flakes being abandoned (especially since they're versioned)
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<rycee> I can put it in a separate branch and people can make flake related PRs against that one. bqv where is your branch? I can have a look at it in the evening after work.
<bqv[m]> the flake support amassses to the top two commits on that branch
<rycee> Yep, I'll have a look and put it in my repo in the evening. I can ping you when it's in.
<bqv[m]> ty
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<bqv[m]> https://github.com/bqv/home-manager/compare/master...bqv:flakes.diff heh, much smaller diff than i expected
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/856dbd1a5c7 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.09-small)
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<turion> Or even create a new function that uses runCommand or something to create a Python package, and then pass its result as src for buildPythonPackage?
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<turion> I wonder what's the better approach... probably the latter
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<typetetris> Hi there! I can't find a way to just provide a nixos machine with a handwritten resolv.conf. Could somebody hand me a pointer to docs, how it is done? Or just write the nixos option name?
<chloekek> To whoever made the packages webpage load in under five seconds, great job! :)
<typetetris> nameservers .. okay
<eyJhb> Does NixOS actually support Microsoft Teams well?
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<Taneb> typetetris: there's networking.resolveconf.extraCOnfig which gets appended to the end of resolv.conf
<Taneb> The default resolve.conf is "interface_order='lo lo[0-9]*'" for some technical reason I won't claim to understand, but is described here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-19.09/nixos/modules/config/resolvconf.nix#L20
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<typetetris> Taneb, thanks. Can I not use resolveconf somehow?
<Taneb> Hmm, I don't really know
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<ottidmes> bqv[m]: does it still work without flakes with those changes, should it not default to <nixpkgs> in some places? Also some seem just styling changes / whitespace, probably better to keep them out
<bqv[m]> ottidmes: flakes are a total replacement for channels, so <nixpkgs> doesn't resolve, afaik
<ottidmes> bqv[m]: I know, but the codebase should work for both flakes / non-flakes until flakes become the standard everything uses
<bqv[m]> it doesn't :p
<bqv[m]> oh, sorry, i misread your message
<bqv[m]> i'm not sure it works without flakes with that patch, but feel free to test
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<ottidmes> bqv[m]: but is there any reason to have it in a seperate branch if it can be made to work for both
<bqv[m]> specifically the part that's changed is the nixos module part, the package part should be absolutely fine
<ottidmes> bqv[m]: not going to do that, not a HM user myself
<bqv[m]> the point is that i'm not sure it can be easily made to work for both without structural change, hence why i pinged the creatro
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj merged pull request #83231 → cypress: 3.8.3 -> 4.2.0 → https://git.io/JvyC4
<ottidmes> fair enough
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<manveru> bqv[m]: how did you build nixos with flakes?
<bqv[m]> > pkgs.nixFlakes
<sphalerite> hyper_ch: HDR? So you'd need a special monitor to use it, or..?
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/0alpq8ay2c9fnss73b913k8664y8826c-nix-2.4pre20200220_4a4521f.drv>"
<bqv[m]> oh, nixos
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<manveru> haven't tried in a few weeks, but last time nixos-options was still broken
<bqv[m]> it is. that repo fixes some of that
<bqv[m]> by faking a configuration.nix polyfill
<turion> When using symlinkjoin, how do I move one of the files I pass to paths to a subdirectory?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj merged pull request #83750 → mpd: 0.21.20 -> 0.21.21 → https://git.io/Jv7lF
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<manveru> thanks, will take a look
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<turion> Or is there a special builder that just does mv to some files?
<init_6[m]> hi all!!! is there some kernel with https://github.com/cloudflare/linux/tree/master/patches ?
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<sphalerite> turion: maybe you want `linkFarm`?
<ottidmes> turion: not that I am aware of, you have to do something yourself in runCommand. I needed something else recently, to basically overlay multiple paths together with symlinks, so say I want to only overwrite nixos/default.nix, but keep the rest of nixpkgs, it would create symlinks to build such a structure. If that is what you need, I can share it with you
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<turion> sphalerite: I think not...
<turion> ottidmes: Oh yes, that would be nice! I'll try and see whether I can make PR to nixpkgs with that eventually if that's fine with you
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<bqv[m]> i had a system to do that to add PRs that weren't merged yet, before i used flakes
<bqv[m]> because some PRs were waiting for months and it was silly
<turion> Ok, even stupider question: How do I make a local file into a derivation. Like writeFile, but I don't want to specify the text verbatim.
<bqv[m]> ${file}
<bqv[m]> you shouldn't specifically need to though.
<turion> thanks!
<bqv[m]> what are you after, the file's contents?
<bqv[m]> builtins.readFile
<turion> Ah ok
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<turion> My long plan is to write a function that takes a .py file, Python-packages it in a trivial way, and then calls buildPythonPackage on it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83764 → plantuml: 1.2020.2 -> 1.2020.5 → https://git.io/Jv7Vk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 closed pull request #36274 → nixos: nixos-generate-config: document all the common things → https://git.io/vA9FZ
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<ottidmes> turion: https://gist.github.com/msteen/5ebe0cdda8ac7520b0d4934b6b3ce277 (had to improve default.nix a bit, hence the delay)
<turion> bqv[m]: So my first step is to create a derivation that just contains that .py file, and setup.py + other boiler plate files
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<turion> But it has to have the foo.py file at the correct place, usually foo/__init__.py, I believe
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<turion> ottidmes, thanks!
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<ottidmes> turion: updated main.sh to use null delimiters consistently
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #83754 → nwipe: 0.27 -> 0.28 → https://git.io/Jv74j
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<Cadey> i'm trying to build user mode linux but i'm getting linker errors
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<turion> I'm still stuck at how to make a local source file into a derivation... ${path} does not what I want
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<bqv[m]> you want to make a directory into a derivaiton, not a file, don't you
<turion> I basically have a local source file ./path/to/file.py, and I want to have a derivation containing /different/path/to/other_filename.py
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<turion> bqv[m]: No, just a file
<turion> Unfortunately it's in a directory with other stuff I _don't_ want to put in the derivation
<bqv[m]> use stdenv.mkDerivation, set { src = ./path/to; }, then set { installPhase = '' mkdir -p $out/different/path/to; cp file.py $out/different/path/to/; ''; }
<turion> (And I'm not allowed to move that stuff, and I can't predict what else is there)
<bqv[m]> note that that's kinda impure and you should just find a way to have a hashable src
<turion> How is it impure, or in other words, why can't this be hashed?
<bqv[m]> because your derivation there uses the local filesystem as an input
<typetetris> hmm I am trying to do an nixos install over debian, using the install from chroot method (it is a vServer and I only have remote access). On `nixos-install` I get an `writing to file: Operation not permitted` strace revealed, that some child process wants to write `/proc/<pid>/uid_map` and that fails. What can I try to get that working?
<ocharles> How does concurrency work with remote builders? If I try and nix-store /nix/store/...drv on my local machine, presumably the entire closure gets uploaded to the remote builder, and is it then just the same as doing nix-store -r on that machine?
<bqv[m]> it actually uses the current working directory as an input!
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<turion> So by hashable src you mean a git commit of some repo?
<bqv[m]> doesn't have to be git, just has to be fetchable from anywhere and easily reproducible
<turion> If I change something in ./path/to/file.py, the hash of the derivation will change, and nix knows to rebuild this, right?
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<bqv[m]> alternatively, bundle that file directly with your derivation, like most people do with package.jsons in nixpkgs
<bqv[m]> turion: currently, no
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<turion> bqv[m]: Ah, but if I specify a whole directory, hashing works? In that case, I can create one derivation of that directory, and a second one where I've just moved out one file
<turion> It's a bit tedious because it would trigger some unnecessary extra rebuilds
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<turion> What do you mean by "directly with your derivation"? As in, "put the file in the same folder like the derivation"?
<bqv[m]> yeah, because a derivation shouldn't generally be sourcing a random file somewhere on your filesystem (it's actually disabled in restricted mode nix)
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<turion> Ok, so the directory .. is treated differently than .
<turion> That makes sense. I guess I can just put all my .nix files in the same directory as the python files
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut opened pull request #83768 → nixos/magic-wormhole-mailbox-server: init → https://git.io/Jv7re
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<bqv[m]> can i ask what you're building?
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<turion> bqv[m]: Gladly :) My long plan is to write a function that takes a .py file, Python-packages it in a trivial way, and then calls buildPythonPackage on it
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<turion> My colleagues have a lot of .py files floating about, but they aren't packaged
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<turion> So I'm trying to package them
<turion> But I want the packaging to happen in nix, in order to leave the source repo unchanged
<bqv[m]> how will you handle dependencies?
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<bqv[m]> (and is there no harm in simply having a derivation for the whole repo?)
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<mananamenos> hi, services.postgresql.inititialScript does not succeed. Is it because I had already started postgresql before editing this line? How can I remove/rebuild the whole postgresql service from zero?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus merged pull request #83730 → kotlin: 1.3.70 -> 1.3.71 → https://git.io/Jv7sp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7rq
<turion> My function will have to pass those along, I guess
<turion> bqv[m]: Maybe making a derivation out of the whole repo is fine
<turion> You mean pinning a commit of that repo, and then getting the files out from there?
<bqv[m]> i feel the most sensible way of handling that situation is to have a nix file that takes that repo as it's src, and builds several bespoke derivations for each python script, perhaps
<bqv[m]> yes
<turion> Ok makes sense
<bqv[m]> e.g. let src = fetchGit { blah; }; in { pythonpackage1 = stdenv.mkDervivation { inherit src; pname = "pythonPackage1"; buildInputs = ...; installPhase = ...; }; pythonPackage2 = ...; }
<turion> So that solves the issue how I get the individual scripts as single derivations
<bqv[m]> alternatively have one derivation with multiple outputs
<bqv[m]> much purer
<bqv[m]> yeah
<turion> I don't know how the multiple output thing works, but I'll look into it
<turion> (So much to learn...)
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to flakes: https://git.io/Jv7rC
<bqv[m]> if you're against pinning a specific commit, you can use fetchTarball, but I'd just use a specific ref if you can
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<turion> Yeah I guess it's fine to do that. I'm trying to change the original source as little as possible
<turion> bqv[m] ++
<bqv[m]> :)
<turion> bqv[m]++
<{^_^}> bqv[m]'s karma got increased to 3
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<turion> Oh no... how do I pass credentials to fetchgit?
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<adisbladis> turion: You don't
<adisbladis> turion: Use builtins.fetchGit
<adisbladis> That runs in the evaluator, so it has access to your users keys.
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<turion> adisbladis: Ah :) thanks!
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<arstneio> hey, I have `shell.nix` generated from `cabal2nix`. I'm trying to use a different GHC version. When I change `compiler ? "default"`to something else, it tries to build GHC locally. Shouldn't there be a way to get the binary directly from cache? If so, what do I need to change in my `shell.nix`?
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<bqv[m]> arstneio: chances are, hydra isn't cacheing packages for those versions
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<bqv[m]> which is reasonable. it shouldn't have to cache packages for every haskell version, the vast majority of people will only ever use the latest
<Yaniel> and the latest may simply not be built yet if it was just updated
<bqv[m]> at least you have some caching... emacs packages don't get cached at all...
<bqv[m]> i've got conflicting definitions in <unknown-file> again
<bqv[m]> how on earth am i meant to debug this
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<mudri> I opened an issue on cabal2nix a week ago and have got no response. The issue affects nixpkgs users, so should I open an issue on the nixpkgs repository too? https://github.com/NixOS/cabal2nix/issues/447
<{^_^}> cabal2nix#447 (by laMudri, 1 week ago, open): Agda not using caches for primitive modules
<arstneio> ah ok, so I will have to look at a different version of nixpkgs? What is the best way to check if a version of nixpkgs satisfies all my package version constraints (other than manually checking the nixpkgs github)?
<bqv[m]> arstneio: no, the derivations you're after have been deleted
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<bqv[m]> you have to build them
<bqv[m]> unless you can find them on cachix or someone else has them
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<arstneio> bqv[m] ok will do, thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83771 → python27Packages.cgroup-utils: 0.6 -> 0.8 → https://git.io/Jv7oR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #83723 → kdiff3: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.2 → https://git.io/Jv7Og
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<kenran> I am writing a Haskell application with nix integration and I can use `nix-build` to build my binary. The app has some runtime dependencies (e.g. FreeTDS to access the database) which are present inside my nix-shell.
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<kenran> Now I'm missing one step: make the binary work on the target (NixOS) machine so that I don't have to be inside a nix-shell to get the runtime dependencies. Can you give me a hint on how to do that?
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<kenran> I might have taken a wrong turn earlier already with my train of thought, so feel free to correct me on anything I might be doing in a dumb way!
<tilpner> kenran: How does your application use/find freetds?
<bqv[m]> wrapProgram <targetbinary> --prefix PATH ":" ${lib.makeBinPath [ pkgs.dependency1 pkgs.dependency2 ]}
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83773 → python27Packages.datadog: 0.34.1 -> 0.35.0 → https://git.io/Jv7KZ
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<kenran> tilpner: phew, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. In my shell.nix I have pkgs.freetds in my buildInputs, as well as a nix expression to create an ODBC ini file that contains the FreeTDS driver configuration.
<mananamenos> hi, pgadmin4 is not on nixos packages, so i use the docker image. It works fine, however once i create some servers in pgadmin, nothing persists after the docker process restarts. Is this normal?
<kenran> My application then just uses a connection string that in turn says it uses FreeTDS.
<adisbladis> mananamenos: Presumably you have to map a volume to wherever pgadmin4 saves it's state.
<bqv[m]> i never liked docker
<mananamenos> adisbladis: thank you, i'll google for that. This would go somewhere with `docker run ....`, right?
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<tilpner> kenran: I'm not familiar with freetds. You need to figure out who loads freetds how. Presumably you use some Haskell library, that does the loading for you, right?
<tilpner> kenran: Have you looked at the option environment.freetds?
<tilpner> " When at least one entry is configured the global environment variables FREETDSCONF,
<tilpner> FREETDS and SYBASE will be configured to allow the programs that use freetds to find the library and config.
<tilpner> ", this seems like your library might expect these variables in the environment
<adisbladis> mananamenos: `docker run.. -V local_path:container_path` iirc
<adisbladis> lower case v :>
<tilpner> kenran: pymssql on the other hand, uses propagatedBuildInputs = [freetds];
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<kenran> tilpner: I think I'm misunderstanding you (not a native English speaker here). Yes, the Haskell odbc library does the loading, and it knows it has to use FreeTDS since the connection string says so. When I enter a nix-shell, a nix expression I wrote is evaluated that creates an odbc ini file which contains the location of FreeTDS (I can post this soon)
<kenran> Also, I set an environment variable ODBCSYSINI to the path to that file, so it's used by odbc.
<kenran> tilpner: here's the nix expression describing my FreeTDS config: https://pastebin.com/dW6LaSBa
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to flakes: https://git.io/Jv7K6
<kenran> I wrote this, but it was some time ago and I don't really understand the "magic" that makes me able to use ${freetds} there :)
<pie_[bnc]> kenran: freetds comes in scope from `with pkgs;`
<kenran> When I nix-build my application, it has nothing to do with my shell.nix file (maybe that's wrong?), so it doesn't know about FreeTDS in my system. I now wonder whether I should just add freetds to my NixOS system globally, but feel like that's wrong, or how I can "teach the binary" that's built that it needs freetds with the above config expression and such
<pie_[bnc]> kenran: when you use ${} to substitute a variable in a string, it coerces the first output derivation to a path
<kenran> The expression I posted is not used in conjunction with my `nix-build` at all and I don't know if and how I can or should use it
<pie_[bnc]> sometihng like that
<pie_[bnc]> *something like what i said anyway
<pie_[bnc]> > pkgs.hello
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/gq5fbhbwhmjxkv6a870kw14v7f1ywmm6-hello-2.10.drv>"
<pie_[bnc]> > "${pkgs.hello}"
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/njlavpa90laywf22b1myif5101qhln8r-hello-2.10"
<kenran> ahhhh yes that was it, thanks!
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<pie_[bnc]> > pkgs.hello.outputs
<{^_^}> [ "out" ]
<pie_[bnc]> ok not the best example but yeah
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<pie_[bnc]> some packages have their outputs in a different order so the default coercion is not always .out
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<tilpner> kenran: Okay, so let's just set ODBCSYSINI to that file, just for your application
<tilpner> kenran: You can either do that with a wrapper (as shown earlier), or when deploying (how are you deploying? systemd service?)
<mananamenos> adisbladis: Sorry maybe you also know what should the target be for pgadmin `--mount source=my-vol,target=?? \`?
<kenran> I'm not sure how I want to deploy it (partly because I haven't figured out how to best run the app yet :D). systemd would be an option, yes. for this app, it might be feasible to just have an open tmux session where it runs in one tab though...
<adisbladis> mananamenos: Sorry, no idea.
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<tilpner> kenran: Well, those two questions need to be answered at the same time, unfortunately
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<tilpner> (Unless you wrap it, then it works everywhere)
<tilpner> kenran: With a systemd service, you can set environment.ODBCSYSINI = callPackage ./odbcinst.nix {};
<tilpner> kenran: And then, when you start the application inside that service, it should find freetds
<tilpner> That option refers to systemd.services.<name>.environment
<mananamenos> adisbladis: thank you!
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<kenran> tilpner: the wrapping sounds like something I could try first and maybe be content with
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<kenran> but systemd looks better because I could then write an expression for my service and have that in the description of my server
<kenran> tilpner: thank you very much! I will try around with both possibilities for a bit and ask follow-up questions in a couple of days when I got to trying it out :)
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<Mbarak> Hello! I'm trying to package ruby-debug-ide (a ruby debugger) and I'm having some trouble. Can anyone help me or point me in the right direction? Thanks! https://discourse.nixos.org/t/package-ruby-debug-ide/6471/2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #83766 → spotify-tui: 0.17.0 -> 0.17.1 → https://git.io/Jv7VV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7Kx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #83775 → pulseaudio: Enable bluetooth support by default → https://git.io/Jv76v
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<jeromelanteri> hi, new install on qemu VM. I'm trying to setup keyboard layout on first opened tty... how to do please ?
<jeromelanteri> doesn't find any manual page around this. Only find for Xserver keyboard layout.
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<jeromelanteri> first login after to install is nixos@nixos shell login.
<tilpner> jeromelanteri: loadkeys foo, to do it manually
<tilpner> (where foo could be "de")
<tilpner> And console.keyMap to do it permanently
<jeromelanteri> permission denied (i tryed it allready)
<tilpner> As root?
<jeromelanteri> tilpner, no becuase su command ask for a password i'm ignoring.
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<jeromelanteri> tilpner, ok, i do a sudo call...
<jeromelanteri> on first install what is the root password ?
<tilpner> You set it during installation
<jeromelanteri> no
<tilpner> There is no default password
<jeromelanteri> ask me nothing during install
<tilpner> Did you set it in configuration.nix?
<jeromelanteri> no
<tilpner> Then it should have made you set one
<jeromelanteri> ok
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<jeromelanteri> it is the very first install pretty new there on my VM. No question was asked.
<tilpner> Did you already install, or are you still installing?
<jeromelanteri> find configuration.nix
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<the_pumpkin_man[> Hello, I am actually on nixos-unstable, and I don't understand why when I launch lutris, there's no icon. I also tried on nixos-stable channel
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<jeromelanteri> ok, /etc/nixos/configuration.nix there...
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #83746 → marvin: 20.6.0 -> 20.9.0 → https://git.io/Jv7Wj
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv76S
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: have you installed already, or are you in the installer live environment?
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<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], ok, i just realized that i'm on a kind of tty installe rlive environment. it is not installed allready.
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<pie_[bnc]> (i dont think it should have asked you for a password then, but idk)
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<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], did asked for nothing at all... just a kind of boot menu for installer mode... just the next step.
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<tilpner> No, it asks for a password while installing
<alexgood> Hey folks, I'm getting an error running gpg. Specifically I'm getting a `no pinentry` error. I have `services.gnupg.agent.enable = true` in my config, anything I'm missing?
<tilpner> If you haven't done that, it hasn't asked yet
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<jeromelanteri> tilpner, i did remove and restart the process for be 100% sure...
<jared-w> linux 5.6 is out now. Yey
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<jeromelanteri> tilpner, so yes, the first step is to see a kind of boot menu to choose install mode
<jeromelanteri> then a tty
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #81161 → libvirt: 5.4.0 -> 6.1.0 → https://git.io/JvzTj
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<jeromelanteri> with a comment on top said that nixos and root have empty passwd
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<jeromelanteri> and i can start sshd
<tilpner> jeromelanteri: And sudo loadkeys de does not work?
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<jeromelanteri> and i must have to set a password for either root and nixos with passd
<jeromelanteri> passwd
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<tilpner> Did you set one, or are you thinking you have to set one?
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<jeromelanteri> tilpner, yes, sudo did worked. i'm on azerty config layout now.
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<jeromelanteri> i just followed the text on top and did "passwd" and set a password.
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<jeromelanteri> but then... i'm logged on nixos user, so i think it is the password for nixos user
<jeromelanteri> when i do "su"
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<jeromelanteri> and give password, it then failed.
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<jeromelanteri> tilpner, so the question stay: how to set root password from there ?
<jeromelanteri> sudo - root passwd ?
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<tilpner> Can you login on tty3 as root?
<jeromelanteri> they said on top that password is empty
<pie_[bnc]> tilpner: he's still in the installer
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<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: have you seen this? https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-installation it might help
<tilpner> pie_[bnc]: I know
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], no, just see your link now. I'm surprise because there is something indicate on first tty opened, but if i strictely follow what they said, it failed. Or user have to know something who is not writed...
<jeromelanteri> ALT-F3 doesn't change anything because of the autologin on nixos.
<pie_[bnc]> tilpner: i guess i also kind of lost track of what the problem is
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: you fixed the keyboard, so what is the problem now?
<jeromelanteri> what is poorly documented and push first time user down is this sentence: "You then must set a password for either "root" and "nixos" with "passwd" to be able to login.
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<jeromelanteri> well...
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<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: that is for the installed system
<jeromelanteri> no, sure not, write passwd command just change the nixos user passwd.
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<jeromelanteri> no root user passwd has been changed yet.
<jeromelanteri> so what ?
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<pie_[bnc]> i mean, thats for if you want to log in to the installed system, when you boot into the installed sytem
<jeromelanteri> ok
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<pie_[bnc]> possibly involving a chroot and passwd before you reboot
<jeromelanteri> ok, understand better.
<pie_[bnc]> but it's been a while since the last time i did this
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<jeromelanteri> It should be indicate to clarify the situation. First time user can't know.
<pie_[bnc]> if i understood tilpner correctly, nixos-install or whatever will ask you for a password to set?
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: have you actually gone through the whole nixos-install process?
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: see the part in the manual that says "Do the installation: "
<pie_[bnc]> thats where the password stuff is
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], i should take time to read your link first or maybe all the nixos-help document and write the first step usable information from this doc to be able to understand what to do at first step to install correctly...
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<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], i gone no where more than just start iso fresh downloaded image on qemu VM and click on first link boot loader like screen to get this nixos automatic login on tty
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: right, so you probably want to start reading/going through the instalation section of the manual
<pie_[bnc]> feel free to ask questions if you have any problems, and welcome to nixos \o/ :P
<jeromelanteri> and God didn't tell me nothing more than what i read on tty top text poorly documented, the next is to read the big documentation and find what i have to do next.
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<pie_[bnc]> nixos is not the most user friendly thing
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<jeromelanteri> yes pie_[bnc] no other choice to stop now and going back when i will have a full day time to investigate to learn something usuall before to go ahead. The doc is good i see, but i have to read a lot for find the first next step to first install NixOS.
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<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: have you ever installed linux befre
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], yes, i can see that, but the idea of NixOS is still very good. I think later someone would increase sentences at first connection and make it user friendly.
<pie_[bnc]> yeah, people want to, theres just always more work than people :P
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], i'm on archlinux, i use also FreeBSD on VPS servers, and i did install any Debian like distro on ARM hardware, etc... so yes, i have a little idea of what is Unix and Linux systems since 20 years more now.
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], sure.
<pie_[bnc]> the main steps for nix are not completely alien to linux setup, you have to do partitioning (pay attention to GPT/MBR UEFI bootloader compatibility stuff), mount the needed partitions, generate the initial config, edit the config, and run nixos-install
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<pie_[bnc]> its not hard once you;ve done it a few times x)
<jeromelanteri> i'll just do BIOS MBR easy way on Qemu VM.
<pie_[bnc]> should be fine
<alexgood> Hey folks, apologies for repeating request, not sure if it got missed. Anyone know how to gpg running under gnome?
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<glitters`> alexgood: what's special about gnome?
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<pie_[bnc]> alexgood: idk, butwhat problem are you running into
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], when i will have time, maybe i would like to create a kind of very first beginner video to show how to first step install to help people.
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: sure
<alexgood> I've got `programs.gnupg.agent.enable = true` set but running `gpg` gives me `no pinentry` errors
<alexgood> Not necessarily anythung special, it's just the environment I'm in
<glittershark> oh hmm
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: looks like youtube already has some actually
<glittershark> alexgood: is that *all* you have enabled wrt gpg?
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], ho... good. In French langage ?
<alexgood> Specifically, `gpg --import` gives me a bunch of `error readiong <secret>: No pinentry`
<alexgood> I've also added `gnupg` to `systemPackages`
<glittershark> are you using home-manager?
<alexgood> Yup
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<glittershark> so I use `services.gpg-agent.enable = true;` in my home.nix
<glittershark> and that works for me
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: hmm ok i thought they exsted but the first few i looked at werent great
<alexgood> I'll give it a shot
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<pie_[bnc]> so nevermind i guess, make the video :p
<pie_[bnc]> i think someone here wrote an article on nix for a french magazine once but i dont remember who it was
<pie_[bnc]> or maybe it was just on the discourse
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<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], no pb, i will do it. I see i just need real time to look closer first to preparate something not too long to show and also something clear and simple. It is not easy to do things clear and simple.
<alexgood> Hmm, no dice
<Mbarak> Hi guys, forgive me for bumping this request, I'm trying to package the ruby debugger in nix and I'm having trouble. Can anyone here give me a hand? https://discourse.nixos.org/t/package-ruby-debug-ide/6471/2
<glittershark> alexgood: same issue?
<alexgood> There should be a gpg agent running under systemctl right? I can't see one
<alexgood> Yeah `no pinentry`
<glittershark> alexgood: it's in `systemctl --user`, if you use home-manager
<glittershark> you may need to `systemctl --user start gpg-agent` after running home-manager switch
<alexgood> Ah nice, it is running
<glittershark> cool
<pie_[bnc]> mbarak: it might be reasonable to ask once in #nixos-dev
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<glittershark> try tweaking the values of services.gpg-agent.pinentryFlavor in home.nix
<Mbarak> pie: thanks! i'll try that.
<glittershark> Type: null or one of "curses", "tty", "gtk2", "qt", "gnome3", "emacs"
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], thank you.
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<glittershark> gtk2 is the default
<alexgood> Will do. There are a bunch of logs in the service filesaying "IPC connect call failed"
<alexgood> So that sounds promising
<glittershark> yeah
<alexgood> *service journal
<glittershark> tty will almost definitely work, if you can stand having to type your password into a terminal
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<glittershark> I've run into this exact issue on macos, fwiw
<glittershark> not running nix at all
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<glittershark> maybe try disabling `programs.gnupg.agent` in your configuration.nix too?
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<alexgood> So I'm getting a weird error trying to build the pinentryFlavor option, it's complaining that `home-manager.users.alex.services.gpg-agent.pinentryFlavor` doesn't exist
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<glittershark> is it nested under users.alex?
<glittershark> because it shouldn't be
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<rycee> alex: You are using the master branch of Home Manager with the 19.09 version of Nixpkgs. You need to use the 19.09 branch of Home Manager.
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<aveltras> having the following configuration.nix, is it possible to only resolve the path to ssh keys on the remote machine ? im building it on local machine and it complains that it can't access the root directory but i don't mean
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<aveltras> the goal is to pre-build a system config and then copying it to remote over ssh
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<alexgood> Ah
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<alexgood> Huh, the channel is listed as `home-manager https://github.com/rycee/home-manager/archive/release-19.09.tar.gz` by `nix-channel` is that not the 19.09 branch?
<turion> aveltras: Can't you make your config a function and pass in the keys as an argument?
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<alexgood> Also @gittershark is that still true if I'm running home manager as a NixOS option?
<turion> And then on your remote machine you have a .nix that simply calls your function with your keys
<Nixola> what should I do to enable sshd other than setting services.openssh.enable to true in configuration.nix?
<glittershark> alexgood: I'm not sure what you mean by that
<alexgood> *module
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<avn> adisbladis: backing to node packages... I checked node2nix and napalm, but not sure if possible to avoid 500kb package-lock? If I undersrtand right -- instalign dev tools is recursive, and bring half on npmjs
<aveltras> turion: the thing is i'd like to build the remote config completely on local machine
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<glittershark> oh, I didn't know that was possible! that's cool. No, you're probably doing the right thing.
<glittershark>
<bqv[m]> <glittershark "because it shouldn't be"> yes, it should
<bqv[m]> that's how home-manager works
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<alexgood> I'm going by the terminology here https://rycee.gitlab.io/home-manager/ which talks about a "NixOS module"
<alexgood> Coolio
<glittershark> yeah I wasn't aware of that
<glittershark>
<alexgood> I think the problem maay be that I'm running the 19.09 release of home manager but I'm on `unstable` nixpkgs?
<rycee> alex: Have you set the `services.gpg-agent.pinentryFlavor` option anywhere?
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<alexgood> I tried setting `home-manager.users.alex.services.gpg-agent.pinentryFlavor = "gnome3"` but it complained that such an option does not exist
<rycee> Yes, it does not exist in the 19.09 branch of Home Manager.
<glittershark> that was my bad
<rycee> Only in the master branch.
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<alexgood> Cool, I'll try upgrading to the `master` branch and see what happens
<glittershark> I was just looking at my local `man home-configuration.nix`
<glittershark> gave bad advice
<alexgood> Ha, not to worry, I still know more than I did before I talked to you and appreiate the help
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<exarkun> anyone had success configuring zoom inside a nixos vm? and want to share the config?
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<jakobrs> If a program provides a ./autogen.sh file, is it better to just use that (in preConfigure), or
<jakobrs> use autoreconfHook and copy over the relevant parts from autogen.sh into preAutoreconf?
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<alexgood> Boom, rycee glittershark thankyou very much! Now I can encrypt things to my hearts content.
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<exarkun> how about this ... an xserver in a nixos-build-vms built vm?
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<bqv[m]> i almost did a rebase -i HEAD~150
<bqv[m]> but i think rewriting history to that point is just rude :p
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<yorick> should libxml2 depend on python2?
<turion> bqv[m]: I messed up history recently by doing that, I'm always doing git rebase -i origin/master now
<bqv[m]> reflog?
<bqv[m]> i'd have just reset hard onto HEAD@{1}
<adisbladis> pie_[bnc]: ^
<adisbladis> I think we should backport that to 20.03 too
<jakobrs> If I submit a package to nixpkgs, does it *have* to have a maintainer?
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<glittershark> I have an alias `grim="git rebase -i origin/master"` which in addition to being useful always makes me chuckle
<yorick> oh, I see, it got fixed
<ottidmes> jakobrs: yes, "meta.maintainers must be set", https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
<bqv[m]> grim, haha
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<jakobrs> I did see that file; I just read it as _maybe_ it could be set to [ ]
<mac66> Hello!
<bqv[m]> nice
<bqv[m]> i refuse to use bash aliases as command shorteners
<bqv[m]> on peril of forgetting the original command
<glittershark> heh
<glittershark> that's probably fair
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #83763 → home-manager: 2020-03-07 -> 2020-03-17 → https://git.io/Jv728
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<glittershark> every time I sit down at someone else's computer or ssh into a production machine and my aliases aren't there I have a very hard time
<ottidmes> jakobrs: that would have been an implementation detail and they could have implemented it as (meta.maintainers or []), so no, I am sure they mean, it should have a maintainer + I have seen reviewers ask for this and maintainers being added to those that did not have any but were already in nixpkgs
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<ottidmes> bqv[m]: The biggest downside I notice from aliases+functions is that I sometimes want to share a one liner, which uses those, and it takes some effort to then rewrite it back to the underlying commands, especially for some of the functions I use
<mac66> I have a newbie question. I have a late 2019 Razer Blade Stealth with an Intel iGPU and an NVIDIA GTX1650 discrete GPU. NixOS 19.09 and unstable work fine with the iGPU but I cannot get the discrete GPU working. Latest attempt is the nvidia-offload configuration which seems to work fine in Arch. I have no idea what the difference is.
<bqv[m]> exactly
<bqv[m]> i prefer to just get faster at typing the original
<bqv[m]> that way the alias is in my head, not tied to a machine
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<mac66> Followed this guide for PRIME https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nvidia
<pie_[bnc]> adisbladis: backport what? the pulseaudio stuff? sure i guess? i dont really have anything helpful to say :p
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<mac66> glxgears works fine for iGPU but with nvidia-offload it won't even start.
<pie_[bnc]> jakobrs: well you could try submitting the PR anywa
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<adisbladis> pie_[bnc]: It was more FYI :)
<pie_[bnc]> adisbladis: ah o
<mac66> Maybe I should post this question on discourse instead?
<pie_[bnc]> * ok
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<mac66> I went here because I am not sure what information to provide, so I was hoping for quick feedback :)
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<tilpner> mac66: Any error from glxspheres64?
<tilpner> Something like X Error of failed request?
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<mac66> tilpner: I don't have that. Which package is that in?
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<tilpner> virtualgl
<oznt> hi guys, I am looking for a way to pro grammatically manipulate nixos configuration. Is there a Python library for that or something similar?
<bqv[m]> i normally settle for vim...
<tilpner> Not Python, but Haskell and Rust. And I don't know if libexpr should be used, but that would be C++
<adisbladis> tilpner: pythonix is a thing
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<mac66> tilpner: works fine with iGPU, get the error below with nvidia. I suspect I borked the PCI id maybe, or something like that.
<mac66> nvidia-offload glxspheres64Polygons in scene: 62464 (61 spheres * 1024 polys/spheres)GLX FB config ID of window: 0x8c (8/8/8/0)Visual ID of window: 0x11fX Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 152 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GLXCreateContext) Value in
<mac66> failed request: 0x0 Serial number of failed request: 27 Current serial number in output stream: 28
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<adisbladis> oznt: What do you want to do? Are you sure you cant express what you want in Nix?
<tilpner> Oh, it binds nix, nice
<oznt> I would like to add elements in a nix config without installing nix os
<oznt> a python lib would be cool because I give the users a script to manipulate nix file without having to install nix
<glittershark> like structural editing of nix scripts
<glittershark> I've wanted this too
<tilpner> mac66: Try with: unset __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD_PROVIDER
<glittershark> er, structural editing of nix *in* scripts
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<adisbladis> oznt: What exactly do you want to achieve? Just adding a bunch of packages? Changing module options?
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<oznt> adding user's keys and someother stuff, it's not easy to do with awk or similar
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<ottidmes> I have edited nix files in the past by using rnix, a nix parser written in Rust
<tilpner> That sounds doable in Nix
<adisbladis> oznt: Personally I'd write a script that emits some json and then read that in Nix
<oznt> glittershark, I realize it's terrible but end users don't use nix
<bqv[m]> yeah, why not just import a secrets.nix
<mac66> tilpner: Same result. Tried just using
<mac66> export __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1export __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia
<mac66> argh, line break
<tilpner> mac66: And you checked the PCI ids yourself?
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<bqv[m]> i think nix even has encryption support
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<bqv[m]> rfc 5
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<oznt> adisbladis, when you write Nix, what exactly do you mean?
<mac66> tilpner: Yes. But maybe I got it wrong? lspci says the nvidia card is 57:00.0 and I put it in as PCI:87:0:0 in my configuration.nix
<mac66> Intel GPU is 0:2:0
<tilpner> Is that a typo, or did you actually use different digits?
<adisbladis> oznt: I mean use `lib.importJSON` to read the values from your JSON file
<mac66> Not a typo, the wiki said nvidia driver wants decimal
<pie_[bnc]> jeromelanteri: i looked at the message you were talking about, thats saying you have to set a password to be able to ssh into the installer image
<tilpner> mac66: Well, 57 != 87
<oznt> sounds fine, ok, can you give a link to a working example?
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<mac66> is 57 hex not 87 decimal
<mac66> ?
<tilpner> mac66: Huh, are you sure it needs to be encoded? My ids are small enough to be the same in both encodings
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<tilpner> Ahh, the wiki does says that
<mac66> tilpner: According to this https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nvidia I should change it.
<adisbladis> oznt: Something like `{ lib, ... }: let userJSON = lib.importJSON ./jsonfile.json; in { users.users = userJSON; }`
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<mac66> But I guess I could easily try with 57
<teto> what does the delta represnet in this lib.debug.traceSeq output ? "CSApprox" = <δ:vimplugin-csapprox-2013-07-27>
<mac66> tilpner: This is puzzling. Something else must be missing because I am using the same desktop environment on the same machine and the same NV environment variables and it worked as when it worked on Arch.
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<mac66> lspci also says the nvidia driver is loaded for the dGPU
<oznt> adisbladis, looks like a lot of effort ... I would appreciate a more complete example.
<mac66> *as when it worked on Arch
<adisbladis> oznt: Without a more specific question I can't provide that
<tilpner> mac66: Sorry, I probably can't help you much :/
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<mac66> tilpner: Thanks for trying!
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<michaelpj> anyone using plasma on recent unstable? I'm scared of updating because of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/79713 as I do kind of need to be able to configure displays...
<nix-build> #79713 (by y-usuzumi, 7 weeks ago, open): Theme is broken on several tabs of systemsettings5
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<adisbladis> And it's really no less work than something that parses Nix and emits new Nix
<adisbladis> s/no less/no more/
<adisbladis> In fact its very likely far less work
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @mkg20001 opened pull request #83782 → krita: disable parallel building #35359 → https://git.io/Jv7Mo
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<nix-build> [nix] @zimbatm opened pull request #3458 → NIX_USER_CONF_DIR → https://git.io/Jv7Mi
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<asymmetric> does anyone know how to set a timeout that tracks wall-clock time, rather than cpu time?
<asymmetric> on a multi-core machine the two differ
<asymmetric> quite a lot
<jeromelanteri> pie_[bnc], ok, fine. So it was in relation with ssh context...
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<nix-build> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « Fix macOS build »: https://git.io/Jv7MD
<the_pumpkin_man[> Hello, I am actually on nixos-unstable, and I don't understand why when I launch lutris, there's no icon. I also tried on nixos-stable channel
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #83663 → pkgsStatic.python3: fix build → https://git.io/JvQQi
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to master « pkgsStatic.python3: fix build »: https://git.io/Jv7Mh
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging « buildPython*: use pname »: https://git.io/Jv7Dv
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @FRidh closed pull request #83674 → buildPython*: use pname → https://git.io/JvQd1
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<oznt> adisbladis, here is a example of what I want to do, the nix file and the json https://pastebin.com/RGgGEqeW
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<teto> the_pumpkin_man[: maybe the icon is not installed by the package. Or do you mean game icons ?
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<bqv[m]> uh hey, curl is segfaulting
<bqv[m]> that's not normal right?
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<bqv[m]> nevermind, was using it wrong...
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<bqv[m]> https://0x0.st/iMMC.png : left=been using rebases and tags to keep track of my nix configurations, right=the nix elisp i was talking about earlier
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<ottidmes> bqv[m]: That is one of the reasons I try to avoid emacs, what if I really start to like it. I would likely waste too much time improving my emacs setup, I already do that plenty enough with NixOS :P
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<bqv[m]> :D
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<the_pumpkin_man[> teto: I mean the icon on the top bar. For example, the cross you click to make the window to exit, or to minimize the window. Also other buttons from lutris, like add game/import game, etc
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 opened pull request #83784 → sysdig: 0.26.5 -> 0.26.6 → https://git.io/Jv7yL
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<bqv[m]> by the way, is there a `nixos-option search` or something
<bqv[m]> i'm so sick of having to open a browser to do that
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<infinisil> gchristensen: Where did {^_^} go?
<srk> bqv[m]: man configuration.nix and / ?
<hodapp> TIL: there is a 'man configuration.nix'
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<bqv[m]> i'm assuming it's nix-build
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<hodapp> sometimes I forget about man pages because certain programs don't provide them well :[
<gchristensen> infinisil: for now its nix-build, I'll look in a bit
<bqv[m]> srk: oh that's neat.
<srk> that's documentation.nixos.enable :)
<bqv[m]> i'm guessing that's just nixpkgs though
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<bqv[m]> hodapp: smae
<bqv[m]> see: "man nix"
<hodapp> bqv[m]: see above :P
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<srk> bqv[m]: I think it works for import-ed modules as well
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<NobbZ[m]> I have a `shell.nix` which uses `python35Packages.poetry` as its `buildInputs` and it seems as if this causes a lot of cerivations to be built from scratch, including running the tests. Is there a way to disable tests globally (for this `shell.nix`)?
<srk> hm, not sure. but I also have 'man home-configuration.nix' provided by home-manager
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<bqv[m]> srk: doesn't seem to, for me, but i'm using flakes
<bqv[m]> i have documentation.nixos.enable set to true
<bqv[m]> still no man nix
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @wmertens merged pull request #83026 → Nodejs backport → https://git.io/Jv7yi
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @wmertens pushed 4 commits to staging-19.09: https://git.io/Jv7yP
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<SuppenGeist> Hey, I'm currently trying to write my first nix module. I created a basic default.nix and currently trying to evaluate it with the command 'nix-shell $NIXPKGS -A packagename'. But nix-shell doesnt seem to recognize my default.nix. I also set $NIXPKGS to my local nixpkgs repository.
<srk> NobbZ[m]: not that easy. you might be able to do that by using overlay to override python35Packages.callPackage but that sets it for all python35Packages
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<bqv[m]> oh, cool
<bqv[m]> guess that'll do
<srk> bqv[m]: no idea bout that, would be nice if that would work
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<infinisil> SuppenGeist: Where is the default.nix?
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<bqv[m]> srk: that's totally a great idea though, a manpage generated from all the modules you have available
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<bqv[m]> hey nix gurus, is that possible?
<SuppenGeist> infinisil I located it in pkgs/applications/version-management/openproject
<bqv[m]> i mean, i'm sure it's possible, but would it be easy to do?
<qyliss> bqv[m]: configuration.nix(7)
<infinisil> SuppenGeist: Then you also need to add a definition in pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
<qyliss> configuration.nix(5), sorry
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<SuppenGeist> infinisil I see, thank you!
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<bqv[m]> i do not have a (7)
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<bqv[m]> i have a (5), it is not all my modules
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<NobbZ[m]> srk: I don't care. I can put that overlay into that `shell.nix` only. Do you have an example how I have to write that override?
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<bqv[m]> yep, i grepped through, pretty sure every option in configuration.nix(5) is declared by nixpkgs
<bqv[m]> not a single one by any of the other modules i have
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<infinisil> bqv[m]: documentation.nixos.includeAllModules = true
<infinisil> Then it should have all of them :)
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<bqv[m]> that sounds like what i was missing
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<srk> NobbZ[m]: I don't have a good example, the one I have is for haskell and would just confuse you
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<srk> bye matrix
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bcdarwin closed pull request #83025 → vtkWithQt4: remove package → https://git.io/Jv7Su
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<mjrosenb> so, given that there *should* be macos specific code for idea-ultimate, how can I find out why it installed the linux binary of idea-ultimate?
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83785 → python27Packages.identify: 1.4.11 -> 1.4.13 → https://git.io/Jv79n
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp opened pull request #83786 → litecli: 1.1.0 -> 1.3.2 → https://git.io/Jv79B
<nh2> is https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Firefox vastly out of date? It seems we ship Firefox as just "Firefox", not Nightly, without branding issues now?
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<selfsymmetric-mu> `pkgs.haskellPackages.Cabal_3_0_0_0` does not put `cabal` on the PATH. What should I be using?
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<selfsymmetric-mu> Ah, `cabal-install` looks good.
<pie_[bnc]> what was the man page with nixos options?
<pie_[bnc]> ok man configuration.nix
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<cole-h> `nixos-option` might help as well
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<nix-build> [nix] @edolstra pushed to fetchers « Backport libfetchers from the flakes branch »: https://git.io/Jv7Hd
<pie_[bnc]> cole-h: yeah my nixos-option is broken right now because my NIX_PATH is set up weird
<nix-build> [nix] @edolstra opened pull request #3459 → Backport libfetchers from the flakes branch → https://git.io/Jv7HA
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @juliendehos opened pull request #83787 → pythonPackages.fcmaes: init at 0.9.5.7 → https://git.io/Jv7Hx
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryneeverett opened pull request #83788 → vimPlugins: Automate git commits when updating. → https://git.io/Jv7Hj
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<gchristensen> niksnut: oh cool, looking forward to reading that :D
<benny> can I use a vm or cgroups resource limited sandbox to build a package? my system crashes (I think due to OOM) when I try to build a certain nix package (graalvm8)
<benny> the former of course somewhat automagically, because I know I can just spin up a VM ;-)
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83789 → python27Packages.ipdb: 0.13.0 -> 0.13.2 → https://git.io/Jv7QL
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<bqv[m]> hmm
<bqv[m]> the manpages failed to build
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<tilpner> benny: Sure, I guess. systemd.services.nix-daemon.serviceConfig.MemoryMax = "4G"; should do it
<tilpner> Now the daemon will die instead, which is probably not all that helpful
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<tilpner> You can set MemoryHigh instead of MemoryMax and systemd will supposedly take memory away more aggressively, and slow the process down. No idea if and how well that works though
<benny> tilpner: I'm grasping at straws, because graalvm8 is a dependency for some interesting tools and having system crashes whenever I try to build something is not optimal (tm) ;-)
<benny> I would rather the build process dies so I can confirm it's a memory situation
<tilpner> Well, it's not just the build process
<tilpner> I would expect the entire daemon to die, along with all build processes it had
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<tilpner> Which may be equivalent in your case, but the distinction can be important in others
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #83790 → tdesktop: 1.9.21 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv7QR
<benny> yeah I don't know what the proper way to get around this are... I have 16GB memory and 4GB swap and the build process dies after 90 minutes
<benny> not great to try out a bunch of things to nail it down
<benny> (sorry, the whole system crashes at that point AFAICS)
<tilpner> Monitoring would help
<tilpner> Prometheus is probably overkill, so try atop
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<tilpner> Do the nix-daemon logs say anything about why it's killed?
<benny> are they persistent? because the whole system has to be powered off at that point
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<tilpner> atop can record to a file
<tilpner> Which you can later read to see how resource consumption changed
<benny> I will give that a try, thanks
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<qy[m]> manual-combined.xml:16153: element link: validity error : IDREF attribute linkend references an unknown ID "opt-programs.go.goPath"
<qy[m]> when i try and build the combined manuals
<qy[m]> any ideas?
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #83792 → gollum: 4.1.4 -> 5.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv7Qd
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<drakonis> matrix gateway...
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<mehlon> welcome to the matrix, neo!
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Anton-Latukha closed pull request #70433 → projectm: adopt, Qt{4->5}, {2->3}1.0, patch rpath, clean-up closure → https://git.io/JeCUX
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<nix-build> [nix] @edolstra pushed to dev-shell « Backport 'nix dev-shell' from the flakes branch »: https://git.io/Jv77n
<nix-build> [nix] @edolstra opened pull request #3460 → Backport 'nix dev-shell' from the flakes branch → https://git.io/Jv77C
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #83793 → RFC: Force "dev" output in case of static builds → https://git.io/Jv77o
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #83064 → lsp-plugins: 1.1.13 -> 1.1.15 → https://git.io/Jv77K
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv776
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #83615 → skaffold: 1.4.0 -> 1.6.0 → https://git.io/JvQRL
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv77y
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<qy[m]> drakonis: what about it?
<drakonis> its the big mass of spam joins and quits
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bhipple merged pull request #83774 → [20.03] pythonPackages.scikit-build: fix python3.8 bug → https://git.io/Jv76e
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bhipple pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/Jv777
<qy[m]> ah
<qy[m]> i'm probably one of them, then
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<mehlon> it seems like I'm not appearing in the matrix channel
<qy[m]> mehlon: actually you are
<mehlon> oh there I am
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #83518 → python.pkgs.{tensorflow,tensorflow-estimator,tensorflow-tensorboard}-2: Init at 2.0.0 → https://git.io/JvHy9
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv75L
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<mdash> nixos-generators looks like a great project, but i seem to be missing something important about how to use it to generate a 32bit image from a 64bit host
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<mdash> i'm getting "can't open fsimg nixos.raw: Value too large for defined data type"
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #83794 → tensorflow-estimator-1.x: Put back comment → https://git.io/Jv75s
<mdash> maybe it's trying to make a >4GB image?
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #83795 → nghttp2: add python bindings as pythonPackages.nghttp2 → https://git.io/Jv75n
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #83794 → tensorflow-estimator-1.x: Put back comment → https://git.io/Jv75s
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv75c
<lassulus> mdash: hmm, I never tried generating a 32bit image, what command are you trying?
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #83796 → Backport #83518 for 20.03 → https://git.io/Jv750
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<mdash> lassulus: nixos-generate -f openstack --system i686-linux
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<__monty__> With modules like `services.borgbackup.jobs` is it possible to add to the systemd service definition? I'd like to add Restart= and RestartSec= directives.
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor merged pull request #83764 → plantuml: 1.2020.2 -> 1.2020.5 → https://git.io/Jv7Vk
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<cole-h> __monty__: If it's possible to set Restart and RestartSec in a user-defined service, you should just be able to override the borgbackup service with those things
<cole-h> e.g. `systemd.user.services.borgbackup.<however you can set Restart> = whatever;` is how I'm imagining it
<cole-h> (but I don't know for sure, sorry)
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<mdash> lassulus: I was seeing "booted via startup_32" in the console when trying to load a 64bit image and no messages from linux kernel, so I assumed it was an arch issue
<lassulus> hmm, could be. afair the openstack image builder started up a qemu-vm to do stuff and then saved the container contents to an archive, sounds like it can't open the container image for some reason
<lassulus> I will try to debug that
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<mdash> lassulus: on the other hand, this 'debian 10 cloud' image the openstack host already has is 64bit...
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83797 → python27Packages.jupytext: 1.3.4 -> 1.4.1 → https://git.io/Jv7dT
<lassulus> mdash: ah, why do you want to use 32bit then?
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<__monty__> cole-h: But they're not user services and no "borgbackup" service is actually created, there's a service for every job you configure.
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<__monty__> cole-h: I'm just wondering whether there's a general mechanism or whether I need to patch the nixos module.
<mdash> lassulus: 'cause I didn't notice and was trying things randomly :)
<cole-h> I meant that as an example, since I don't use NixOS. I'd work through how the module creates the service and then set Restart= if its possible
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<cole-h> Sorry I couldn't be more helpful
<mdash> lassulus: here's what I get with the 64bit image I did build: https://imgur.com/hUvDOPS
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryneeverett opened pull request #83798 → vimPlugins: Add --proc flag to update script. → https://git.io/Jv7d3
<mdash> lassulus: it boots fine running qemu myself
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryneeverett closed pull request #83008 → vim-plugins: Add --debug flag to update.py. → https://git.io/Jv7dG
<mdash> and all the other images on this host use bios boot, so that's what I set up for
<lassulus> mdash: ah cool, there were also some issues with the openstack image builder and I never really tried it. I just use the nixpkgs functions to generate the image
<mdash> lassulus: okay. my hunt for the guilty parties continues!
<mdash> ;-)
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @FRidh reopened pull request #83675 → pythonPackages.pytest: 5.3.5 -> 5.4.1 → https://git.io/JvQdA
<evanjs> Gah. Trying to use rust bindgen with a shell.nix. got stdint.h but still missing cstddef :/
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<evanjs> mmkay, think it was just clang-tools that I needed
<evanjs> or removing the explicit addition of nix_cflags... hrm
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<jlv12> Does anyone know how to run `xset` as root, without hard coding a particular user to switch to, such as in `services.acpid.lidEventCommands`?
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<jlv12> I'm trying to turn off my laptop display when the lid closes. I got it working by hard coding my primary username, but that isn't an ideal solution.
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #75729 → makeDesktopItem: add desktop file validation → https://git.io/JeQS3
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7dS
<qy[m]> gchristensen: grahamc any ideas on this https://github.com/rycee/home-manager/issues/896
<nix-build> rycee/home-manager#896 (by pasqui23, 21 weeks ago, open): home-manager as nixos module is broken with documentation.nixos.includeAllModules=true
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<tilpner> jlv12: Essentially loginctl show-session $(loginctl show-seat seat0 --value -p ActiveSession) -p Name
<chrisaw> I thought I could append to the existing postStart script for a service using lib.mkAfter -- i.e. system.services.mysql.postStart = lib.mkAfter '' echo "Example" '';
<chrisaw> What am I doing wrong? :S
<tilpner> chrisaw: What isn't working?
<chrisaw> I'm just getting: The option `systemd.services.mysql.serviceConfig.ExecStartPost' has conflicting definitions. I know I could force overwrite it with Force but I just want to append a few commands on to the end of the existing script.
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83801 → python37Packages.moviepy: 1.0.1 -> 1.0.2 → https://git.io/Jv7FU
<tilpner> It depends on who set the current value, and how
<nix-build> [hydra] @samueldr opened pull request #729 → hydra-eval-jobs: Mirror eval errors in STDERR → https://git.io/Jv7Fk
<tilpner> Do you have another definition?
<chrisaw> Nope, it's just pulling the package default definition.
<jlv12> tilpner: Thanks. I actually found both of those links, but the wiki article wasn't really helpful, and I couldn't get the script working. Your one liner appears to work though.
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<tilpner> chrisaw: That's not going to work
<tilpner> chrisaw: Are those lines independent of the script that's currently running?
<chrisaw> tilpner: Yes they are - just a bunch of commands I want to run once mysql starts.
<tilpner> Then let's try to add another ExecStartPost, instead of altering the existing one
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83802 → python27Packages.hdbscan: 0.8.24 -> 0.8.25 → https://git.io/Jv7FL
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #82764 → Wine update → https://git.io/JvP1k
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<chrisaw> tilpner: Yeah that would work equally as well - if only I knew how. :)
<dhess> hi all, if I want to install both Windows 10 and NixOS on the same box, I assume I should install Windows 10 first?
<jlv12> dhess: If they're installed on different drives. I don't think it matters.
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<jlv12> If they're on the same drive, Windows might override the boot sector, so you probably want to install that first.
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<dhess> they'll be on different drives. But will Win 10 install itself nicely into a grub menu, for example?
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<jlv12> dhess: Hmm, I'm not sure. I always switch OS from bios. I think you could update the grub menu after installing Windows, to add it, but it would be easier to just install Windows first.
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<dhess> Oh yeah no way I'm doing that :)
<dhess> anyway figured it was easier to install Windows first, thanks for confirming.
<jlv12> np
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<tilpner> chrisaw: Yes, this one's tricky
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83803 → python37Packages.nbdime: 1.1.0 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv7FZ
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<qy[m]> jesus christ, home-manager manpages are a dumpster fire
<qy[m]> i give up trying to fix this
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<infinisil> You can't blame home-manager for that, it's a problem with how NixOS does documentation
<cole-h> What's up with the recent `Error("expected value", line: 1, column: 1)` eval failures?
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<nix-build> #83799 (by cole-h, 29 minutes ago, open): cantata: make qtmultimedia and vlc optional
<qy[m]> infinisil: i'm not blaming home-manager, i know it's a change nixpkgs made
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<qy[m]> but it's a real pain to fix
<infinisil> "home-manager manpages are a dumpster fire" sure sounds like you're blaming home-manager
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<qy[m]> i mean as i understand it from reading an old pr, the issue is that nix changed it's method for generating manpages at some point, and home-manager just hasn't fully caught up entirely
<qy[m]> that's not home-manager's fault, but it is a situation that centers on home-manager
<qy[m]> hence that comment
<qy[m]> the blame is entirely on nix, but the problem centers on home-manager
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<gchristensen> I mean,
<gchristensen> nixos' modules -> docbook thing hasn't really ever been an API
<gchristensen> so depending on it is sort of a "keep both pieces" scenario
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<chrisaw> tilpner: I wonder if it's possible to use lib.mkForce ${some_ref_to_original_poststart} ++ ' new_stuff_here '; kind of syntax?
<tilpner> chrisaw: That's what I'm trying to do, but it's not pretty
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* cole-h wonders if it's a spurious failure to eval master
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<gchristensen> cole-h: is this an ofborg thing?
<cole-h> Eval is failing on my PR saying that the branch it will merge into fails to cleanly eval
<gchristensen> link?
<nix-build> #83799 (by cole-h, 35 minutes ago, open): cantata: make qtmultimedia and vlc optional
<gchristensen> I broke ofborg earlier, but I thought I fixed it
<gchristensen> evidently I did not fix it
<cole-h> Some other recently-opened PR are failing with similar/same messages
<gchristensen> cool
<gchristensen> m'on'it
<cole-h> Thanks. Didn't want to ping in case it was actually me fsking something
<chrisaw> tilpner: Found a cleaner way to do what I want to do: services.mysql.initialScript = pkgs.writeText "mysql-initScript" '' stuff_here '';
<tilpner> Phew
<chrisaw> Thanks for your help though, much appreciated! :)
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #83797 → python27Packages.jupytext: 1.3.4 -> 1.4.1 → https://git.io/Jv7dT
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<evanjs> False alarm, still no <cstddef> :D
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @burke opened pull request #83804 → solargraph: Document the original bundle, not the bundlerApp's: → https://git.io/Jv7Fj
<rycee> bqv: Home Manager doesn't use the NixOS documentation system so there might be some incompatibilities.
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<qy[m]> right, so it's completely incompatible with documentation.includeAllModules
<qy[m]> that makes sense then
<rycee> Well, in this case I imagine it is because any references to other options in a HM option description will refer to the options by their name as seen from a standalone HM installation while `includeAllModules` will see the name with a `home-manager.users.<name>` prefix so the generated docbook code will be all wrong.
<rycee> It may be fixable by the NixOS documentation system keeping track of submodules and giving the option attribute prefix as an argument to the XSLT code that generates the manual, which then could prepend the prefix to all references.
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<rycee> I think it wouldn't be simple, though :-/
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<peelz> What is the recommended way for creating an overlay for a gnome3 package?
<rycee> The most straight forward would probably be to add support for some kind of filter w.r.t. `includeAllModules` that could be used to exclude the HM module.
<qy[m]> mm, in my case i was enabling it specifically to add HM modules
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<qy[m]> but i'll settle for having two separate manpages
<qy[m]> no other flake import i have is large enough to be significant
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<simukis__> grahamc[m]: does buildLayeredImage have a way to prioritize layerization and/or is there a way to layerize some higher level closure as a single layer? Say, I want to put a python runtime and all of its dependencies into a single layer and then create multiple layers for the rest of the stuff?
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<rycee> I think HM in particular is a bit tricky since it is used both standalone and as a NixOS module but the module documentation is limited to describe one of the use cases.
<qy[m]> yeah, fair enough
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #77777 → Rosie init at unstable 2020-01-11 → https://git.io/JvU21
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<jared-w> simbergm: I don't believe so. I think the closest you can get is building a manual layer and then using buildLayeredImage with that. I've had difficulties mixing buildLayeredImage with other layers and with public docker images in general
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #83273 → dnscontrol: init at 3.0.0 → https://git.io/Jvyyc
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<evanjs> gah. all I can find is a few other build.rs files that also set NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE. Anybody else have experience with rust bindgen on NixOS?
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #74027 → [19.09] mattermost-desktop: 4.2.3 -> 4.3.1 → https://git.io/JeiNq
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<evanjs> or just getting cstddef into the nix-shell, I guess :P
<evanjs> With clang in this case, I think?
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<tilpner> evanjs: I have LIBCLANG_PATH="${llvmPackages.libclang.lib}/lib/libclang.so";
<tilpner> evanjs: And BINDGEN_EXTRA_CLANG_ARGS = "-I ${linux.dev}/lib/modules/${linux.modDirVersion}/build/include -I ${linux.dev}/lib/modules/${linux.modDirVersion}/build/arch/x86/include/generated"; for something else
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @NickHu opened pull request #83806 → zotero: make wrapGAppsHook work → https://git.io/Jv7Nx
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<benny> tilpner: several builds later and yeah, 16GB memory isn't enough and the reason the system crashes is due to this bug: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/7734
<nix-build> openzfs/zfs#7734 (by runderwo, 1 year ago, open): Swap deadlock in 0.7.9
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<glittershark> poppler is failing to build on macos even though x11Support is disabled (as it is by default) - anyone know anything about this?
<glittershark> `fatal error: 'X11/Xlib.h' file not found`
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<glittershark> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b7a41a280f6172c13e9dc3f5d6fe499c9f898c0c appears to *attempt* to fix this, though it doesn't for me
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<glittershark> FRidh: you said you tested that PR, are you around / do you have any idea why it still would be looking for X11?
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<glittershark> weirdly enough if I .override {x11Support = true;} it just substitutes from cache.nixos so uh
<glittershark> I guess I'll just do that?
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<glittershark> this is like 4 layers down the transitive dependency chain lol
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<simpson> glittershark: I'm not super-familiar with the package in question, but this suggests that the X11 support is unconditionally configured.
<glittershark> yeah
<FRidh> glittershark: probably meant "built locally"
<glittershark> it looks like this is an issue with cairo's ./configure
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<aranea> Is there a builtins.getAttr value that does something more useful than erroring out when the attribute isn't found? Or do I need to write that myself based on getAttr and hasAttr?
<FRidh> and that would be NixOS onl
<aranea> s/value/alternative/
<glittershark> aranea: the ? operator iirc
<simpson> glittershark: Perhaps a flag of some sort is required in the builder; around l70, maybe, something like `++ optional (X11Support && xcbSupport) "--enable-x11"`. Don't forget that XCB support implies X11 support, I think?
<evanjs> tilpner: do you still wrap the NIX_CFLAGS in build.rs?
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<glittershark> simpson: yep
<glittershark> will try that and open a PR if it fixes it
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<evanjs> e.g. `.clang_args(nix_cflags.split(" "))`
<tilpner> evanjs: No
<aranea> That's just a static variant of hasAttr, not what I need. Thanks though. :)
<tilpner> evanjs: But I also have very little context about your problem
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<evanjs> tilpner: basically, I'm trying to use rust-bindgen (nix-shell w/lorri), and I am able to reference some headers (from a local nix package) just fine, but those files reference cstddef, which cannot be found with my current setup
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<tilpner> evanjs:
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<tilpner> ... and did you try BINDGEN_EXTRA_CLANG_ARGS = "-I ${libcxx}/include/c++/v1";?
<evanjs> tilpner: ahh I did not try putting it into BINDGEN_EXTRA_CLANG_ARGS
<glittershark> oh dang I think this a sandboxing issue :cry:
<tilpner> Huh, where else did you try putting it?
<glittershark> the cairo configure script is just finding my system-wide xlib
<glittershark> and enabling it since it's there
<evanjs> I did see it there and tried adding it to buildInputs earlier. I wasn't sure how to like -I it for bindgen
<glittershark> goddammit, darwin
<evanjs> that makes sense, though
<glittershark> dang, configure with --disable-x11 still fails
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 8 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/Jv7xT
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #83796 → Backport #83518 for 20.03 → https://git.io/Jv750
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<simpson> glittershark: You may have to read Cairo's configure script to figure out what's going on. I haven't done that step yet.
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<glittershark> yeah it's... a lot
<glittershark> I've (maybe fortunately) never used autoconf before
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<glittershark> it may be --disable-xlib
<glittershark> looks like that did that, or at least it's getting further now
<glittershark> if this works it'll be my first nixpkgs PR! \o/ so that's cool
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #82993 → treewide: fix redirected urls (again) → https://git.io/Jv7xn
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv7xc
<evanjs> tilpner: I get a whole slew of errors, now :D e.g. /nix/store/rpinhskd2g4a9cz620w2b2frm7hrxw7j-libc++-7.1.0/include/c++/v1/__nullptr:55:1: error: unknown type name 'namespace'
<glittershark> wheeee that worked
<glittershark> thanks for your help simpson
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<simpson> glittershark++ you did all the work.
<nix-build> glittershark's karma got increased to 1
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<betaboon> i just noticed that there are packages that create entries in $out/share/dbus-1/services which allows them to be automatically started by dbus. i dont like that ...
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @glittershark opened pull request #83808 → cairo: pass --disable-xlib to config if no x11 → https://git.io/Jv7x6
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<pie_[bnc]> tbenst[m]: I remembered the packaging prolem with hanging tests :( It doesnt tell you which test is currently running...
<pie_[bnc]> and i dont see it in the ^C result yet
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<pie_[bnc]> but pytest-timeout is crap and doesnt tell you where it killed itself
<aveltras> i have a systemd service like the following. The server doesn't restart and isn't stopped when running "systemctl stop server", the journalctl entry indicates that it tries to restart a second instance before stopping the running one (i think cause it complains about an already in use port). Is there anything incorrect ?
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @teto opened pull request #83809 → vimPlugins: make it more extensible → https://git.io/Jv7xj
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<aveltras> forgot to mention that the problem i first noticed is that it doesn't reload when switching configuration
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<aveltras> here's the journalctl
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<pie_[bnc]> energizer: ^ any advice re my python problems?
<iceypoi> I find it really refreshing that I can set up my raspi using LXC, effectively ;-)
<iceypoi> I basically create a temporary LXD instance to set up the configuration.nix.
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<iceypoi> and once everything is nice, then I can just apply it
<pie_[bnc]> cool, i do the vm stuff on my machine, should mess with containers more at some point
<pie_[bnc]> my vm actualy behaves better than the real setup because I dont have NIX_PATH set up properly on the outside...
<iceypoi> ya, LXD integration is pretty neat, tbh. Plus you don't have to "install" per se
<ekleog> huh? where does the documentation about language-specific infrastructure live nowadays? looks like it's no longer in the nixpkgs manual
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj opened pull request #83810 → haskellPackages.pandoc-crossref: fix build and more → https://git.io/Jv7pg
<pittma> skip i
<glittershark> ekleog: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/doc/languages-frameworks is where I usually go, but maybe that's not "the" place
<FRidh> ekleog: under Builders
<pittma> that... was the wrong window.
<ekleog> oooooh it's just that the toc no longer includes everything
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #83811 → python27Packages.phonenumbers: 8.11.4 -> 8.12.0 → https://git.io/Jv7p6
* ekleog had just ctrl-f'd and observed the first reply wasn't from the toc
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<ekleog> thank y'all :)
<cole-h> :^)
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<cole-h> I usually go for doc/languages-frameworks first though. No need to load a 840932809423 line webpage
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<ekleog> well, I've got the nixpkgs manual in my history, so it's just typing `pkgs man` and it's already there :°
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<cole-h> Fair enough, that works too :P
<syd> Hi peeps! Evaluating my nixos configuration easily takes multiple seconds on a very beefy computer. What am I doing wrong?
<evils> syd: probably nothing
<syd> Is it fixable evils?
<simpson> syd: How long should it take?
<syd> a full no-op deploy should take fewer than a second, but currently it's around a minute I think
<syd> I'll have to try it out
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @orivej-nixos pushed commit from @orivej to master « qastools: 0.21.0 -> 0.22.0 »: https://git.io/Jv7p5
<glittershark> the nix expression language is certainly not known for being fast
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<syd> so long story short: "Have less stuff to evaluate"
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<iceypoi> is there an easy way how to deploy ssh private keys?
<iceypoi> or is it best to do an ssh-keygen
<gchristensen> don't deploy them, instead generate them on the machine
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj opened pull request #83812 → nix-script: 2015-09-22 -> 2020-03-23 → https://git.io/Jv7hf
<bdju> Is the intel igpu still bugged on new kernels? I want to leave 4.19 someday
<gchristensen> bdju: seems solved on 5.5
<bdju> also just got some wayland/sway crash to tty stuff going on
<bdju> gchristensen: alright cool, I'll give it a shot
<gchristensen> yeah, you should probably run sway with `exec` instead of just running it
<nix-build> swaywm/sway#4091 (by grahamc, 48 weeks ago, closed): `exec sway` is security-critical, but underdocumented
<syd> sudo nixos-rebuild switch 22.07s user 6.86s system 105% cpu 27.353 total
<syd> for a no-op nixos-rebuild switch.
<bdju> ah thanks for the tip
<glittershark> bdju: I have `VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile)` on this computer running 5.4.28 and it seems to work fine
<glittershark>
<glittershark> bumblebee/optimus is completely broken but that's another story
<cransom> syd: thats basically how it will be. it still has to go through and evaulate everything to be sure nothing changed.
<syd> cransom Right, but that's a _lot_ to evaluate.
<bdju> glittershark: to clarify I never had problems on sandy bridge igpu, but have on haswell, it's not all intel stuff.
<cole-h> Means you have a lot in your configs that needs to be evaluated.
<syd> It doesn't help that I'm using like 4 different versions of nixpkgs pinnings because of how broken the haskell ecosystem is
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<gchristensen> syd: yeah, each one of those makes everything extremely worse, that thorouhly explains it :P
<syd> Would it help if they all shared the same nixos pinning, or does it still need to evaluate them all seperately?
<glittershark> bdju: this is an 8th generation (coffee lake)
<bdju> getting build failure on wofi... was hoping to update before rebooting, still in the tty after the crash.
<bdju> glittershark: ah okay if it's new then that makes me feel better
<glittershark> yep
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<OmnipotentEntity> If I have an application that requires SSE, what's the best way to annotate that in a nixpkgs contribution? I assuming that it's best to restrict platforms, but which platforms ought I restrict to (assuming it's a linux only style contribution), is x86_64-linux both necessary and sufficient?
<gchristensen> should be, and if it isn't sufficient, a bug report will happen and we can deal :)
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<OmnipotentEntity> thanks
<pie_[bnc]> tbenst[m]: im fixing tests and look what I found :) https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/dtlj0v/using_wrapgappshook_with_buildfhsuserenv/
<pie_[bnc]> tbenst[m]: did you add that to the PR or did I miss it?
<pie_[bnc]> tbenst[m]: i was just googling wrpgappshook >_>
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<tbenst[m]> pie_[bnc]: ha! I forgot about that. not in nixpkgs, but I do have that in my nix shells
<pie_[bnc]> I dont know if its only needed for the tests or should be propagated to downstream packages though
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<clever> gchristensen: and we got matrixed again, lol
<gchristensen> heh
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<gchristensen> it'd be nice if matrix spread that out a bit :)
<drakonis> wow that's nice
<drakonis> it actually axes afk users
<drakonis> this is the best thing, as there was an irc channel i chatted on that was pretty much 80% matrix users
<bdju> Unusably broken after updote and reboot. Wonky monitors. Briefly fixed after redocking. They went from DP-3/4 to 5 and 6. Got a crash to TTY (not logged in this time because I used exec) attaching to remote TTY. Back to old kernel I guess.
<drakonis> 700 users and a dozen werent matrix users nor were lurkers
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<pie_[bnc]> tbenst[m]: on a sidenote then, does wrapgappshook not work in an fhsuserenv? or does it not deal with hooks because its not a genericBuild derivative?
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<pie_[bnc]> (i dont know much about fhsuserenv
<pie_[bnc]> clever: i heard soemthing about ovh going down earlier
<pie_[bnc]> oh
<pie_[bnc]> just noticed the idle thing
<iceypoi> is setting `boot.binfmt.emulatedSystems` all that I have to do to be able to cross-compile for the raspi?
<tbenst[m]> pie_[bnc]: no, I could never get it working with fhs. Honestly I don’t know much about what is happening behind the scenes with the builders
<bdju> all fine on old kernel so guess it was the kernel. I did updates before changing kernels so that it'd be the only difference if I had to roll back a gen
<glittershark> heck yeah nixos tbh
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<bdju> yeah
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<bdju> if I were on arch I'd probably just cry, never had to roll back a kernel on a normal distro haha
<pie_[bnc]> tbenst[m]: its black magic till you start looking
<MichaelRaskin> Of all things, kernel is what is reasonable to rollback wherever
<pie_[bnc]> then its slightly less black magic and a lot of bash :P
<bdju> yikes... firefox crashed trying to save an image... happened a couple time in the last month but hadn't had problems in a few days
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #83813 → python3Packages.subunit: fix build and add tests → https://git.io/Jv7j4
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83803 → python37Packages.nbdime: 1.1.0 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv7FZ
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « python37Packages.nbdime: 1.1.0 -> 2.0.0 »: https://git.io/Jv7jX
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/Jv5es
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<DigitalKiwi> can nix install on centos 7? when i try it just hangs...
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<eyJhb> How can I use concatMapStringsSep when I am running a file using nix-instantiate --eval ?
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<eyJhb> https://termbin.com/gafc I just get LAMBDA as output when I run this...
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83811 → python27Packages.phonenumbers: 8.11.4 -> 8.12.0 → https://git.io/Jv7p6
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83802 → python27Packages.hdbscan: 0.8.24 -> 0.8.25 → https://git.io/Jv7FL
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv5vs
<Cadey> amd proprietary drivers seem to be broken on nixos 20.03
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<evils> amdgpu-pro? i'm not sure that ever worked
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer closed pull request #83801 → python37Packages.moviepy: 1.0.1 -> 1.0.2 → https://git.io/Jv7FU
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83778 → python27Packages.cocotb: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.1 → https://git.io/Jv7X0
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83771 → python27Packages.cgroup-utils: 0.6 -> 0.8 → https://git.io/Jv7oR
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83785 → python27Packages.identify: 1.4.11 -> 1.4.13 → https://git.io/Jv79n
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83666 → aeolus: 0.9.7 -> 0.9.8 → https://git.io/JvQ7K
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83591 → synthv1: 0.9.12 -> 0.9.13 → https://git.io/JvQ3y
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83586 → samplv1: 0.9.12 -> 0.9.13 → https://git.io/JvQm2
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83581 → stacks: 2.41 -> 2.52 → https://git.io/JvQtM
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<NemesisD> how would you all suggest installing a global npm dependency with nix? i'm trying `yarn2nix.mkYarnPackage` but it sort of seems like that's for projects. i don't have anything to provide to `src`
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83643 → leatherman: 1.10.0 -> 1.11.0 → https://git.io/JvQ14
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<bsima> is the nixos configuration linked somewhere in /run/current-system?
<bsima> i can't find it
<gchristensen> no
<MichaelRaskin> And it is not easy to do correctly…
<gchristensen> NixOS doesn't capture the configuration of the system which was built. there is an option which attempts to do this, but doesn't do a great job (I can't even find the name)
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<MichaelRaskin> Maybe it was so buggy it was dropped?
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<gchristensen> I hope so :P
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<bsima> so how can i get the current config?
<philip_qumulo> Hey, I'm running 20.09pre218613.ae6bdcc5358 (Nightingale) -- a quite recent build on unstable -- and I'm trying to run this command: `machinectl pull-tar https://nspawn.org/storage/ubuntu/bionic/tar/image.tar.xz`. When I do, I eventually get this error: Failed to rename to final image name to
<philip_qumulo> /var/lib/machines/.tar-https:\x2f\x2fnspawn\x2eorg\x2fstorage\x2fubuntu\x2fbionic\x2ftar\x2fimage\x2etar\x2exz.\x22q3ndaffkja0\x22: Read-only file system
<bsima> (i'm using switch-to-configureation, not nixos-switch)
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<MichaelRaskin> Well, you cannot
<philip_qumulo> I can see that /var/lib/machines isn't read-only. How can I get more information about what's going on?
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<Guest99424> Hello, I don't have sound on my nixos system. What'd the recommende troubleshooting be?
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<gchristensen> did you set sound.enable = true; ? this'd be a good start
<Guest99424> Yes, it is set
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #83714 → nextcloud: 18.0.2 -> 18.0.3 → https://git.io/Jv7m6
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #83715 → [20.03] nextcloud: 18.0.2 -> 18.0.3 → https://git.io/Jv7my
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<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @veprbl closed pull request #66387 → Pharo VM 64b upgraded to support Pharo 7 and Pharo 8 images → https://git.io/fj7lt
<nix-build> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #83813 → python3Packages.subunit: fix build and add tests → https://git.io/Jv7j4
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<pie_[bnc]> does anyone know anything about starting an application instance without window decorations (on kde)?
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