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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #81780 → libwebsockets: 3.2.0 -> 3.2.2 → https://git.io/JvV3q
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @eamsden opened pull request #81781 → gcc: Move target libraries to `lib` output when building a cross compiler → https://git.io/JvV3m
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<Orbstheorem> Other than the `security.wrappers` NixOS module, is it possible to SUID a binary in a package?
<gchristensen> no
<Orbstheorem> (I see the security issue from users installing SUID binaries, but maybe there was another workaround)
<{^_^}> #60289 (by Infinisil, 44 weeks ago, closed): [Experiment] Separate security wrappers from NixOS
<Orbstheorem> infinisil: I guess that one concern I see for nixpkgs is moderating regular users installing suid binaries via nix-env. But yah it would be so handy.
<Orbstheorem> How did you solve your problem if I may ask?
<infinisil> Oh the PR doesn't allow that
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<infinisil> You still need root to do the thing from the PR
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<infinisil> Orbstheorem: In my case, since everybody that needed it used NixOS, I just used NixOS' security wrapper module
<Orbstheorem> Oh, I see what your PR does
<Orbstheorem> Okay
<Orbstheorem> Well, I kind of want to upstream my package, but it's a bit annoying to have to include it in my system deviration and rebuild test to test it.
<Orbstheorem> Grumble. Grumble. Gruble.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #81782 → qt512: pick upstream patch for QTBUG-78937 → https://git.io/JvV3g
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81783 → gmsh: 4.5.2 -> 4.5.4 → https://git.io/JvV3V
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<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr opened pull request #88 → Update lvgui for better pointer support → https://git.io/JvV3P
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<xa0[m]> someone wanna have a look at this? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/80402
<{^_^}> #80402 (by bqv, 2 weeks ago, open): ripcord: init at 0.4.23
<xa0[m]> I've had it open for quite a while now. just updated, i'd quite like to just be rid of it
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<worldofpeace> there's a feature in systemd Orbstheorem
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<Orbstheorem> My reflex is "of course there is", but I'm curious now x)
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<Orbstheorem> Where can I find the documentation for `${placeholder "out"}`?
<Orbstheorem> Or at least the source ^^
<Orbstheorem> (Couldn't find it in the nixpkgs manual.)
<Orbstheorem> Oh, it's a nix feature
<Orbstheorem> Thanks :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81778 → forkstat: 0.02.13 -> 0.02.14 → https://git.io/JvVO7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81750 → nodejs-13_x: 13.9.0 -> 13.10.0 → https://git.io/JvVTH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81764 → gitAndTools.gh 0.6.0 -> 0.6.1 → https://git.io/JvVms
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81751 → cloudflared: 2020.2.0 -> 2020.2.1 → https://git.io/JvVkk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81642 → stress-ng: 0.10.19 -> 0.11.01 → https://git.io/JvaWG
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<contrun[m]> How do NIX_* environment variables work exactly? I mean how would the compiler read NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81724 → buildah: v1.14.1 -> v1.14.2 → https://git.io/JvaAr
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<clever> contrun[m]: gcc is actually a shell script (from cc-wrapper) that will read $NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE and call the real gcc
<contrun[m]> clever: I see. Thanks.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVsE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81678 → rclone: 1.50.2 -> 1.51.0 → https://git.io/Jva2p
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #81785 → gnomeExtensions.paperwm: init at 34.3 → https://git.io/JvVsu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81644 → talloc: 2.1.16 -> 2.3.1 → https://git.io/JvaW2
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<cole-h> xa0[m]: Is the config arg necessary? A cursory glance shows nothing needs it
<cole-h> (in ripcord/default.nix)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JvVs1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #79536 → kdevelop-pg-qt: 2.2.0 -> 2.2.1 → https://git.io/Jvn1W
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81786 → ghc: 8.8.2 -> 8.8.3 → https://git.io/JvVsd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81787 → flyway: 6.2.2 -> 6.2.4 → https://git.io/JvVsN
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<lovesegfault> Is there an easy way to make gcc build everything with `march=skylake`?
<lovesegfault> And yes, I mean rebuilding nixpkgs' world
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout closed pull request #81786 → ghc: 8.8.2 -> 8.8.3 → https://git.io/JvVsd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JeffLabonte opened pull request #81788 → brave: 1.4.95 -> 1.4.96 → https://git.io/JvVZs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JeffLabonte opened pull request #81789 → [19 09] brave 1.4.95 to 1.4.96 → https://git.io/JvVZR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81790 → joker: 0.14.1 -> 0.14.2 → https://git.io/JvVZ0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81791 → jgmenu: 4.0.2 -> 4.1.0 → https://git.io/JvVZg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81792 → jruby: 9.2.10.0 -> 9.2.11.0 → https://git.io/JvVZV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JeffLabonte opened pull request #81793 → [20.03]brave 1.4.95 to 1.4.96 → https://git.io/JvVZr
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<Keith[m]> What's the difference between $out/bin and $out/share?
<Keith[m]> I'm trying to package a fork of dolphinEmu, but it can't seem to find an important directory that's automatically put in $out/share
<iceypoi> I presume most of you guys run nixos as their desktop?
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<iqubic> I do.
<iqubic> It's what I find most comfortable.
<iqubic> Though, I am using a tiling WM.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #81794 → nodejs-13_x: 13.10.0 -> 13.10.1 → https://git.io/JvVnw
<infinisil> Keith[m]: There's no inherent difference between these directories, other than the fact that probably different things are in them
<infinisil> If a program can't find X, you need to figure out how it looks for X, then make that work in a Nix build
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<infinisil> lovesegfault: Pretty much that has been asked just today on reddit :) https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/fdhoer/impureusenativeoptimizations/
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<lovesegfault> infinisil: Oh :D
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<lovesegfault> infinisil: Can't I keep things pure by just using `march=$my_arch`?
<infinisil> Probably yeah, though I'm not sure if that gives problems when building on different cpus
<lovesegfault> infinisil: it builds fine on other cpus, just doesn't run on them
<infinisil> But you can use impureUseNativeOptimizations as an example for similar modifications
<lovesegfault> so, e.g., tests would fail
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81646 → tribler: 7.4.1 -> 7.4.4 → https://git.io/JvaWj
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<lovesegfault> flokli: btw i tried using networkd
<lovesegfault> it interacted poorly with networkmanager
<lovesegfault> it's wait-online service would fail all the time
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81741 → avocode: 4.3.0 -> 4.4.3 → https://git.io/JvVfw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81795 → ibus-engines.table: 1.9.22 -> 1.9.25 → https://git.io/JvVcL
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<palo> I have problems to understand the situation here, https://hydra.nixos.org/build/113858180 It says that the tests of hspec-core (not the tests written in hspec-core) 2.7.1 are failing. but when I search in the same evaluation for hspec-core https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1573891 it says that hspec-core is working.
<palo> So I don't know what to fix here.
<palo> Or better, I don't know how to fix it :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg opened pull request #81796 → satallax: Fix build with GCC9 → https://git.io/JvVc1
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<palo> simpson: yes I've seen the logs, but I don't understand where they are coming from, if in the same evaluation the package itself passes all tests.
<palo> I also found `(propagated from` and another build ... which goes back to a failing build right a day after the success of hspec-core which fails.
<palo> I guess I need to consolidate the hydra manual before I start fixing issues here.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #81797 → chezmoi: 1.7.13 -> 1.7.16 → https://git.io/JvVcx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81798 → haproxy: 2.1.2 -> 2.1.3 → https://git.io/JvVCm
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<palo> ah I clicked around a bit, seems the since the 2020-02-18 this release-20-03 branch started, and since than hspec is failing, and because nothing changed for that package, it is not rebuilding the xmonad test, ah and all happens for i686. forot that I have to think of that. Kewl all clear now, thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @skykanin opened pull request #81799 → gomatrix: init at 101.0.0 → https://git.io/JvVCu
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<flokli> lovesegfault: that should have been fixed loong time ago
<lovesegfault> flokli: I repro'd it on unstable :P
<flokli> We had some stupid defaults, which caused Networkd to try to manage more devices than it should
<flokli> Huh?
* lovesegfault nods
<flokli> Did you set the useNetworkd option?
<lovesegfault> networking.useNetworkd, yes
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e113100be02 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<flokli> lovesegfault: hmm, what does networkctl say? What links is it trying to manage that it shouldn't?
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e113100be02 (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple opened pull request #81804 → scaff: 0.1.1 -> 0.1.2 → https://git.io/JvVlR
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<lovesegfault> flokli: I can try testing again tomorrow
<lovesegfault> what times are you around?
<flokli> lovesegfault: I'm in PST till Friday
<lovesegfault> flokli: Are you in SF?
<flokli> lovesegfault: mountain view
<lovesegfault> I know you work with $company b/c we have some contractors from them, so I assume you're in $company's mountain view offices?
<lovesegfault> Ah, yeah :)
<lovesegfault> I'd offer you coffee, but I'm all the way in SF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple opened pull request #81806 → procs: 0.9.11 -> 0.9.18 → https://git.io/JvVlK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #81754 → php74: 7.4.2 → 7.4.3 → https://git.io/JvVkX
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<rooke> For `fetchgit` the documentation says that "rev in this case can be full the git commit id (SHA1 hash) or a tag name like refs/tags/v1.0." Does this extend to `fetchGit` as well?
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<evils> rooke: kinda looks to me like fetchGit isn't a nix thing
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<rooke> Are things in builtins some how seperate from the rest of nix things?
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<rooke> Examples 15.2 - 15.7 in the manual https://nixos.org/nix/manual/ reference fetchGit, thats all I know about it
<evils> huh, so your question is about builtins.fetchGit.rev accepting a tag?
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<rooke> yeah. It doesn't seem to like it, and I'm trying to work out if it's user error or not
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<rooke> The git repo has a tag "v0.0.1" I've tried builtins.fetchGit.rev = "v0.0.1" and builtins.fetchGit.rev = "refs/tags/v0.0.1". In both cases nix complains with "invalid git revision"
<evils> have you tried that `ref` option mentioned in the manual?
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<vek_tor> i want to override the picom systemd config so that it starts picom with `--experimental-backends`. how do i do that?
<evils> it seems to me like there's only 2 things using builtins.fetchGit in nixpkgs, everything else uses fetchgit...
<rooke> yeah, I currently have ref pointing at "refs/heads/nix" as I'm using a different branch to play with nix stuff. I've tried changing it to "refs/tags/v0.0.1" which causes git to fail with the error "fatal: couldn't find remote ref refs/tags/v0.0.1"
<evils> and one of those things seems to be in javascript so that's probably it's builtins (i'm not familiar with js), i'd say try using `fetchgit` instead
* evils is freaked out by the manual having more information than a grep in nixpkgs
<shyim> How can i package a Rust application for multiple channels?
<shyim> the cargo hash changes and then the building breaks
<rooke> The issue is the repository is private, using `fetchGit` allows nix to have access to my ssh profile while `fetchgit` happens inside the sandbox and so can't authenticate
<rooke> https://discourse.nixos.org/t/difference-between-fetchgit-and-fetchgit/3619 was what caused me to start using fetchGit instead. Is there a better way to go about this?
<rooke> It's not the end of the world if I can't use a tag, it just makes the nix file clearer to read than throwing the hash in there
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<evils> unfortunately i can't offer any further advice, maybe try here again later, i think this is the implementation, https://git.io/JvV8V
<rooke> for sure, I should probably get going any way. Thanks for the help :)
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<eeva> How do I tell nix to use some AWS region that is not the default? I have a binary cache in s3 and I run nix on an EC2 instance which has the proper role attached. I can nix copy --from successfully if I set the region in the AWS_DEFAULT_REGION env var. However, nixos-rebuild fails to pick things from the s3 cache, complaining about wrong region (it's using eu-west-1 instead of eu-central-1)
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<eeva> I've created /root/.aws/config with default region=eu-central-1, but it seems it's not picking it up either.
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<thefloweringash> I think you can use `s3://the-bucket/?region=eu-central-1` as the cache url
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81807 → logrotate: 3.15.1 -> 3.16.0 → https://git.io/JvV48
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c667aba79ce (from 82 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c667aba79ce (from 82 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81808 → link-grammar: 5.7.0 -> 5.8.0 → https://git.io/JvV4w
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dguibert opened pull request #81809 → users.groups.disnix instead of a list → https://git.io/JvV49
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<wabado> Hi everyone! I've spent 3 days trying to configure my NixOS to have **2** configurations that I can switch between
<wabado> So my current idea is that I have 2 files, say /etc/nixos/configuration.nix and /etc/nixos/configuration-stable.nix
<wabado> configuration.nix is somehow associated with channel nixos-unstable, configuration-stable.nix is somehow associated with channel nixos-19.09
<lovesegfault> wabado: You want to pin nixpkgs
<lovesegfault> it's the easier way to do this
<lovesegfault> also, consider modularizing your config, so you only need to duplicate parts that changed between release
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<lovesegfault> for modularizing here's how I do it: https://github.com/lovesegfault/nix-config
<wabado> lovesegfault: right, but how do I pin nixpkgs for the entire environment.systemPackages attribute in both my config files?
<colemickens> While useful. those don't really answer how to actually turn any of that into two usable nix files that can be nixos-install /rebuild-switch/manually activated.
<wabado> I don't just want to pin it for every package individually
<wabado> colemickens: Basically, I just want to have 2 NixOS configurations, which might be wildly different from each other, but most importantly, they are associated with 2 different Nix channels
<{^_^}> #62832 (by jluttine, 38 weeks ago, closed): Pinning nixpkgs in configuration.nix?
<colemickens> I used to do this but don't any more because too many of my machines have slow IO and my pinning method was resulting in all of nixpkgs getting copied to the store
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<wabado> And I want to be able to switch between them without rebooting
<colemickens> wabado: we understand, I'm just disappointed that it comes up often and we don't have a canonical good example to point people towards.
<colemickens> I put it off because I want to wait for flakes and is makes some of this easier.
<lovesegfault> ^ same
<lovesegfault> I really want to pin nixpkgs so I have more reproducible builds
<colemickens> (Switching without reboot is do-able, though you might get kernel changes across channels and you might want to log-out, etc.)
<lovesegfault> in my CI/bincache
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<colemickens> here's an old version of my nixcfg
<wabado> colemickens: Hmm, good point. One of the reason I want multiple configuration files is to have multiple kernels to play with
<colemickens> and a function mkSystem, that would use that pinned nixpkgs, and my nixos config module, to build my system configs: https://github.com/colemickens/nixcfg/blob/b3535816b6df9822f37730024e3829450cc51472/default.nix#L5
<colemickens> (my mkSystem properly applies nixpkgs overlays, too, unlike nixpkgs.nixos function)
<wabado> Anyway, it just feels like `nix-channel` is too imperative & I wish I could just have channels set declaratively in the config itself.
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<colemickens> wabado: it's overly modularized, but I'm sort of pointing out how to achieve that in an old revision of my nixcfg.
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<colemickens> Or at least the parts that build the system config. I was also activating it manually to avoid `nixos-rebuild` (as it relies on NIX_PATH or channels and I agree, feels too imperative)
<colemickens> so this is where I was building the attribute I linked before... and then activating it the same way nixos-rebuild does: https://github.com/colemickens/nixcfg/blob/b3535816b6df9822f37730024e3829450cc51472/nixup.sh#L12
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<lovesegfault> colemickens: how do you activate it manually?
<wabado> Once flakes are implemented, will they be the idiomatic answer to my problem?
<lovesegfault> yes
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm merged pull request #81805 → nixpkgs-fmt: 0.6.1 -> 0.7.0 → https://git.io/JvVl0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm pushed to master « nixpkgs-fmt: 0.6.1 -> 0.7.0 (#81805) »: https://git.io/JvVBZ
<wabado> Will it completely subsume nix-channel then (at least from the root point of view)?
<colemickens> goal #3 : "To provide a replacement for nix-channel, NIX_PATH and Hydra jobset definitions."
<colemickens> :)
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<colemickens> lovesegfault: I assume your message just came in after my last link, lmk if it makes sense :)
<lovesegfault> colemickens: Yep, it does
<wabado> Ok, then, so let's dial down my ambitions a bit. Suppose I'm ok with having one configuration.nix, but every once in a while I want to switch my entire system into built from channel nixos-19.09
<lovesegfault> I'll patch my script :D
<wabado> and then some time after I want to switch my entire system to be built from nixos-unstable.
<colemickens> wabado: that's almost easier, in fact.
<wabado> I assume having 2 channels is OK, because all packages will be in /nix/store anyway
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<colemickens> wabado: `sudo -s` then `NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/nixos-unstable.tar.gz:nixos-config=/etc/nixos/configuration.nix nixos-rebuild switch`
<lovesegfault> wabado: yes, that part of it is fine
<lovesegfault> colemickens: isn't `-I nixpkgs=...` better?
<colemickens> wabado: you can just chage the nixpkgs and nixos-config components of NIX_PATH and then re-run `nixos-rebuild switch`.
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<colemickens> The fact that you might have a store filled packages from different channels doesn't really matter. My store has packages from... lots of different versions of nixpkgs :)
<wabado> Ok, I'll try it now and report the results :)
<colemickens> lovesegfault: probably. I find the CLI hard to use consistently and somethings stuck better than others.
<colemickens> lovesegfault: that probably avoids the problem that everyone runs into -- they set NIX_PATH and then use `sudo nixos-rebuild` where their NIX_PATH change was igored.
<colemickens> In fact, I'm going to try to commit that to muscle memory now..
<lovesegfault> colemickens: yep
<wabado> colemickens: I'm currently on nixos-unstable & I want to revert my system to 19.09.
<wabado> Are you saying that I should run NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/nixos-19.09.tar.gz:nixos-config=/etc/nixos/configuration.nix && nixos-rebuild switch ?
<colemickens> wabado: that depends
<wabado> I just did that, it seems like I'm downloading a lot of files (I have garbage-collected before, so I no longer have many of the 19.09 packages in /nix/store)
<colemickens> That's fine, that will do what you want.
<colemickens> Well.
<colemickens> If you do this, and then run `nixos-rebuild switch` later, without setting NIX_PATH, then it will use the system default NIX_PATH value.
<colemickens> Which is likely set to use the `nixos` channel.
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<colemickens> So, on my systems, I either use channels, and I set `nixos` to point at the channel I want to follow and I leave NIX_PATH alone.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm merged pull request #81802 → mdsh: 0.3.0 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/JvVWS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm pushed to master « mdsh: 0.3.0 -> 0.4.0 (#81802) »: https://git.io/JvVBa
<colemickens> Or I go all-out, I maintain my own nixpkgs at ~/code/nixpkgs, and I set my system so that NIX_PATH permanently points NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=/home/cole/code/nixpkgs...
* colemickens really dislikes channels and NIX_PATH
<wabado> Ok, so the easiest way to switch between 2 channels is to just constantly rename the target channel to nixos? :)
<colemickens> I feel like answering any sort of "easiest" question is a trap :)
<colemickens> It doesn't really matter too much tbh.
<colemickens> At the end, it's still just nix-build and nix-env getting called to do the important work.
<wabado> well I understand it's subjective
<ashkitten> wabado: what's the intent here? are you going to be switching between channels a lot? why?
<colemickens> That's sort of why I decided to build my setup so I could `unset NIX_PATH` and just call `nix-build` and `nix-env` to build and activate my system. Helped me understand the parts and honestly feels simpler than understanding NIX_PATH, channels, and <stuff>.
<wabado> ashkitten: kinda, I want to switch between 2 configs a lot, where both differ in Linux kernel versions & in versions of some important packages. I wanted do start with the simplest possible approach, and it turn out not that simple.
<colemickens> Why do you need to switch though?
<ashkitten> yeah, what's the intent behind this? i'm confused
<colemickens> Would it be sufficient to be able to launch a shell with a bunch of packages from a different nixpkgs revision?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @magnetophon opened pull request #81810 → zam-plugins: 3.11 -> 3.12 → https://git.io/JvVBb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81811 → libevdev: 1.8.0 -> 1.9.0 → https://git.io/JvVRv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bignaux opened pull request #81812 → standardnotes: 3.0.15 -> 3.3.3 → https://git.io/JvVRU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #81808 → link-grammar: 5.7.0 -> 5.8.0 → https://git.io/JvV4w
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVRD
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<Mic92> Do you use other sources to check for updates?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mikesperber opened pull request #81813 → idrisPackages: add tf-random package → https://git.io/JvVu1
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<hoppfull> I'm having a major problem with NixOS and npm. I'm trying to install dev dependencies locally but the binaries don't get set up properly. I read somewhere that NixOS doesn't allow it or something. If that is the case, can I work around this somehow or do I have to uninstall NixOS?
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<edef> define "install dev dependencies locally"?
<edef> like, what are you expecting, what are you seeing instead
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<hoppfull> edef: install dev dependencies locally = npm i -D mypackage
<edef> in what context
<edef> that should work fine
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<wedens[m]> do you manage dependencies with Nix or npm/yarn?
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<hoppfull> If I install spago as dev dependency, i see it in node_modules but when I run npx spago, it says "npx: command not found: spago"
<hoppfull> I think there should be a node_modules/.bin folder but there is none
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<edef> does npx actually touch node_modules/.bin?
<hoppfull> ok, maybe not
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<hoppfull> but npx still can't see spago
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<edef> seems it is supposed to touch node_modules/.bin, from a quick skim of libnpx/index.js
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #81704 → chromium: 80.0.3987.122 -> 80.0.3987.132 → https://git.io/JvaS9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #81753 → [19.09] chromium: 80.0.3987.122 -> 80.0.3987.132 (backport) → https://git.io/JvVk6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #81779 → gnomeExtensions.sound-output-device-chooser: 24 -> 25 → https://git.io/JvVOp
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<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos-website] @davidak opened pull request #4 → Fix date in article → https://git.io/JvV21
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81816 → moarvm: 2020.02 -> 2020.02.1 → https://git.io/JvVaf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « signal-desktop: 1.31.0 -> 1.32.0 »: https://git.io/JvVat
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81820 → mercury: 14.01.1 -> 20.01.1 → https://git.io/JvVVe
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 9 commits to eval-optimisations: https://git.io/JvVVf
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<evils> does anyone have a shell.nix for the openwrt SDK?
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<dhess> I gave up and just started using a Docker builder: https://github.com/jandelgado/lede-dockerbuilder
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<evils> dhess: apparently that's the one i had, but it seems like it works on the second go :P
<dhess> but that one assumes you're only building snapshots
<evils> i'm less familiar with docker than nix-shell xD, i think atm there's something wrong with my openwrt Makefile
<dhess> evils: are you trying to build snapshots into working images, or are you trying to do actual development?
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<evils> i'm trying to package something
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<dhess> ok then lede-dockerbuilder is probably not the right tool
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp opened pull request #81821 → rakudo: 2020.02 -> 2020.02.1 → https://git.io/JvVVu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81790 → joker: 0.14.1 -> 0.14.2 → https://git.io/JvVZ0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81792 → jruby: 9.2.10.0 -> 9.2.11.0 → https://git.io/JvVZV
<Communi4810> What is the recommended way to debug something that is inside pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-packages.nix ?
<Communi4810> Darcs is broken, which breaks other things like getdarcs
<Communi4810> But as far as I can understand, this is all automatically generated...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81777 → kube3d: correct k3s version tag → https://git.io/JvVO6
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<Communi4810> Last version of darcs is over one year old, and nothing has changed.
<Communi4810> But it is still broken... how come?
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<wpcarro> When I SSH into a machine, I cannot access the packages that nix-env installed. This is because SSH doesn't evaluate the `. ~/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh` command, which is in my ~/.profile. I created a ~/.ssh/rc file with `. ~/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh`, but that doesn't seem to expose nix-env installed packages. Has anyone accomplished this?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81763 → eventstat: 0.04.08 -> 0.04.09 → https://git.io/JvVmq
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<dhess> Communi4810: it's broken because it doesn't compile with GHC 8.8.x, and nixpkgs just bumped the default GHC to 8.8.2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81767 → argo: 2.6.0 -> 2.6.1 → https://git.io/JvVYU
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<dhess> Communi4810: if you just want to use darcs the executable and you don't care about darcs the Haskell library, you can use an overlay to override it and get it built with GHC 8.6.5. Here is how we're doing it: https://github.com/hackworthltd/hacknix/blob/dd07cb3611addbf8545ca5dc8d0fe94649fec6f3/overlays/haskell-packages.nix#L328
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81749 → closurecompiler: 20200204 -> 20200224 → https://git.io/JvVTi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81771 → fwts: 19.11.00 -> 20.02.00 → https://git.io/JvVOJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81773 → gromacs: 2020 -> 2020.1 → https://git.io/JvVOL
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<Mic92> ryantm: ah you were using repology not libraries.io
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81617 → python27Packages.spotipy: 2.7.1 -> 2.9.0 → https://git.io/Jvamb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVwW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81712 → randoop: 4.2.1 -> 4.2.2 → https://git.io/Jva7y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81637 → python27Packages.ROPGadget: 6.0 -> 6.2 → https://git.io/Jvanl
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<angerman> which nix package contains `find`?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81630 → snd: 20.0 -> 20.1 → https://git.io/JvasM
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<dhess> findutils, probably
<LinuxHackerman> yep
<LinuxHackerman> ,locate bin find
<{^_^}> Found in packages: toybox, busybox, findutils
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81794 → nodejs-13_x: 13.10.0 -> 13.10.1 → https://git.io/JvVnw
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<angerman> thanks!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81590 → python27Packages.msal: 1.0.0 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/Jv2jF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81526 → liblo: 0.30 -> 0.31 → https://git.io/Jv2o2
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<ec2max> Oi! I am having a bit of trouble adding an extra static route using the aws AMIs (19.09). I tried networking.interfaces.<name?>.ipv4.routes and boot.postBootCommands but can’t get the route to stick. Any ideas why it doesn’t get added or removed again?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81471 → bacula: 9.4.4 -> 9.6.2 → https://git.io/Jv23l
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81797 → chezmoi: 1.7.13 -> 1.7.16 → https://git.io/JvVcx
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<Communi4810> dhess: thanks!
<Communi4810> My main concern is getting getdarcs working, don't care about the rest
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81806 → procs: 0.9.11 -> 0.9.18 → https://git.io/JvVlK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to master « nixos/release-notes: fix a tiny typo »: https://git.io/JvVou
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81787 → flyway: 6.2.2 -> 6.2.4 → https://git.io/JvVsN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVog
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-20.03 « nixos/release-notes: fix a tiny typo »: https://git.io/JvVoi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout opened pull request #81822 → stack: Get building with old version of pantry → https://git.io/JvVKe
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<shafox> #emacs
<etu> shafox: There's also #nixos-emacs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JvVKO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #81822 → stack: Get building with old version of pantry → https://git.io/JvVKe
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<ec2max> networking.localCommands doesn’t seem to do anything either, what’s going on?
<ec2max> Shouldn’t I at least see the output in systemctl status network-setup.service?
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas opened pull request #330 → Deploy to Netlify → https://git.io/JvVKM
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<Mic92> niksnut: spacekookie worldofpeace remember the meeting.
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<niksnut> Mic92: coming, still in another meeting
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<arianvp> domenkozar[m]: are there plans to make hercules read cachix dhall files?
<arianvp> it's a bit akward to transpile to this binary-caches.json thing
<arianvp> by hand\
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<Communi4810> @dhess: would it not make sense to add an older version of ghc to the darcs closure in all-packages.nix, so that at least we ship a working NixOS 20.03 when the time comes?
<dhess> Communi4810: my understanding is that 20.03 will ship with ghc865 as the default.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « wayvnc: 0.1.0 -> 0.1.1 »: https://git.io/JvV67
<dhess> is darcs broken in the nixos-20.03 channel?
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<makefu> it would be fantastic if we'd have a simple script which can check on hydra for you :)
<dhess> makefu: is there one, and you're just being sarcastic? or is that a genuine wish? :)
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<makefu> dhess: genuine wish
<makefu> and if so, i'd love to know :)
<dhess> oh, too bad, I thought you were going to show me something new :)
<makefu> i try to cobble something together today, it should be pretty straight-forward.
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<dhess> cool, that would be useful!
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<Communi4810> I agre such a script would be useful (nix-check-channel).
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to gnome-3.36 « fixup! udisks2: disable tests »: https://git.io/JvVia
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning merged pull request #81019 → nix-bash-completions: 0.6.7 -> 0.6.8 → https://git.io/JvExV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to gnome-3.36 « fetchpatch: Allow using base64-encoded hash »: https://git.io/JvVPe
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<makefu> it seems to be not super straight forward to actually find the information on hydra
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<AWizzArd> The manual suggests to update Nix via nix-channel --update; nix-env -iA nixpkgs.nix why is there this -A nixpkgs.nix?
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<LnL> makefu: check what exactly?
<chloekek> AWizzArd: otherwise your environment still points to the old version of Nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lo1tuma opened pull request #81826 → aws-sam-cli: fix incorrect dependency version of tomlkit → https://git.io/JvVX5
<AWizzArd> And how can I install a specific version of some package, say, Emacs?
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<makefu> LnL: find the build on hydra which maps to the latest channel build
<LnL> sec
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<makefu> neat!
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<LnL> that only works for channels however, you can also ask hydra directly what the last successful build of a specific package is
<LnL> curl -fsSL -H 'Accept: application/json' https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/hello.x86_64-linux/latest | jq '.jobsetevals[0]'
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #79062 → rclone: install completions → https://git.io/JvsUX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvV1P
<makefu> LnL: some arcane undocumented knowledge there :D is the last command also possible for an eval?
<LnL> somebody documented part of the api here https://nixos.org/hydra/manual/#chap-api, but looks like some stuff is still missing
<LnL> makefu: eval?
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<makefu> the basic idea is find the eval for the channel (done), for this eval check if given package still builds
<makefu> i was actually using the official api before
<LnL> using /latest-finished instead of /latest will return the last eval for which no builds are still queued
<LnL> that's what's used to update channels
<LnL> but there's nothing to check if both eg. both the unstable channel job as well as something else succeeded
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<eoli3n> Hi when i rebuild build, it finish on this http://ix.io/2dsJ
<makefu> LnL: how can i check if hello.x86-64-linux also builds in nixos-19.09 ?
<eoli3n> i didn't change my config AFAIK
<LnL> makefu: the jobsets for nixos stable are nixos/release-*
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<LnL> it's https://hydra.nixos.org/job/$jobset/$job/latest-finished
<LnL> which for 19.09 is jobset=nixos/release-19.09 and job=nixpkgs.hello.x86_64-linux
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<makefu> for a failed build (nixpkgs.ugarit.x86_64-linux for example) will simply return 404? or am i missing something
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<dingenskirchen> no 404 as far as i'm aware
<LnL> unless it never succeeded for an eval it should return something
<LnL> s/eval/jobset/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Frostman opened pull request #81828 → docker: 19.03.6 -> 19.03.7 → https://git.io/JvVMx
<eoli3n> i have so many depencencies that could not be built : http://ix.io/2dsV
<eoli3n> i failed before on hedgewars package that i just commented, but now i get this
<eoli3n> s/i/it
<eoli3n> no idea, anyone ?
<eoli3n> i think i'm not alone on this, it seems dirty
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<ryantm> Mic92: I hadn't heard of libraries.io thanks. There's also https://release-monitoring.org/ (haven't used it either)
<Mic92> ryantm: I actually thought you were using this one. How do you get the latest version from repology? I only see versions used in other repositories.
<Mic92> ryantm: if the package is only in nixpkgs this is pretty useless: https://repology.org/project/nixpkgs-review/versions
<Mic92> ryantm: I try to build a tool that is more optimized for manual updates by humans: https://github.com/Mic92/nixpkgs-updater
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy merged pull request #81803 → gitlab: 12.8.1 -> 12.8.2 → https://git.io/JvVl3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy pushed to master « gitlab: 12.8.1 -> 12.8.2 (#81803) »: https://git.io/JvVDC
<makefu> LnL: how can i find out that the last build of https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/release-19.09/nixos.tests.installer.simpleUefiGrub.aarch64-linux/all failed via api? /latest and /latest-finished point towards towards successful builds
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<LnL> hm, not sure there's a nice way to do that
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<makefu> /all seems to be ui-only, but i surely could parse the info out :)
<ryanong> Hi! I have a question about using shell.nix. I’m using shellHook to export a variable then execute a shell script but the shell script doesn’t have access to the variable any suggestions?
<ryanong> like I’ll do
<ryanong> `export PGDATA=“path”; env` and when env executes PGDATA isn’t set
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<AWizzArd> How can I restart the nix daemon under ubuntu, when `service --status-all` doesn't list it, and when `launchctl` is not available?
<LnL> launchd is a mac thing, you probably want systemctl
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<Mic92> ryanong: cool. I think I am going to use this for my personal packages to keep them up to to date in nixpkgs.
<Mic92> I mean ryantm and https://release-monitoring.org
<AWizzArd> LnL: yes good right, that worked!
<AWizzArd> thx
<ToxicFrog> Is $out during a build going to point to the same path in /nix/store that the package is going to end up in when the build completes?
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<adisbladis> ToxicFrog: That's exactly what $out is :)
<ToxicFrog> Hmm. I've messed up my scripting here somewhere, then
* ToxicFrog gently bonks her head into the keyboard
<ToxicFrog> I was using ' instead of " in postInstall, so $out was getting evaluated at script execution time rather than package build time.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81770 → graylog: 3.2.1 -> 3.2.2 → https://git.io/JvVY5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVD7
<ToxicFrog> There we go. SLASH'EM 9 packaged.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81766 → fanficfare: 3.15.0 -> 3.16.0 → https://git.io/JvVmh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVDd
<ryanong> figured it out… was missing a backslash
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy pushed to release-20.03 « gitlab: 12.8.1 -> 12.8.2 (#81803) »: https://git.io/JvVyq
<AWizzArd> I am running Nix on Ubuntu. With nix-shell I can create an environment in which specific versions of specific apps/libs are available. Is there a way to start the nix-shell in such a way that nothing else from my original Ubuntu is visible/available? I.e. running inside a sandbox?
<stigo> AWizzArd: have you tested --pure?
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<cinimod_> Anyone seen anything like this? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vrkWEQEo/
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<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Yes, that's what happens with transitive dependencies.
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<Miyu-saki> That is, x -> y -> z-1, while x -> z-2
<cinimod_> But they are the same version
<Miyu-saki> oh
<Miyu-saki> Yeah... I see now. What build system is this?
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<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: Do you mean e.g. cabal?
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<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Yeah. And how does this integrate with Nix?
<cinimod_> `cabal2nix`
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<Miyu-saki> Oh. I'd suggest getting a drv, and `nix-store -qR drv | grep math-functions`
<Miyu-saki> Then if you have multiple outputs, you can use `nix-store -q --tree ...`
<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: how do I get a drv?
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<Miyu-saki> nix-instantiate
<Miyu-saki> How are you building tihs?
<rtb> hello, please how do I change the shell while being in nix-shell
<rtb> I'm using zsh, but want bash in nix-shell
<Miyu-saki> Run bash?
<cole-h> Well you're in luck, because `nix-shell` is bash!
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<cole-h> `nix-shell -p coreutils` -> `[nix-shell:~]$ echo $SHELL` -> `/nix/store/...-bash-interactive-4.4-p23/bin/bash`
<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: I am not sure how this helps me https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rNnpDgAC/
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<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Doesn't really help much, just a sanity test. Anyways, that tells you that "building this package requires 2 versions of math-functions"
<cinimod_> lol
<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: If you want, you can send me your default.nix, and I can analyze it for you.
<Miyu-saki> Oh wait, right.
<Miyu-saki> There's one thing you can do which is nix-diff the 2.
<Miyu-saki> nix-diff /nix/store/jnwixq4cv8pssh0hhcl09l90i6fw9jwm-math-functions-0.3.1.0.drv /nix/store/3068lsqmmk8k1iygy8ggmk4kykajyb27-math-functions-0.3.1.0.drv
<Miyu-saki> That should tell you why you have 2 versions.
<cinimod_> 👍
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<cinimod_> `bash: nix-diff: command not found; bash-3.2$ nix-env -i nix-diff`
<Miyu-saki> nix run nixpkgs.nix-diff
<Miyu-saki> Oh wait
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<Miyu-saki> Also, the output of that may be large, I suggest pastebinning it. You can use 0x0.st
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<cinimod_> It's not too large - afaics the difference looks like one got built with tests and haddocks and one didn't
<Miyu-saki> Ah. :) That the thing then!
<Miyu-saki> Check your default.nix or packages.nix or whatever cabal2nix generates.
<Miyu-saki> And search for "math-functions" there.
<Miyu-saki> You can also follow the --tree to figure out which functions depend on it.
<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: I don't have math-functions in my default.nix
<Miyu-saki> Hm
<cinimod_> It's a dependency in the .cabal file and cabal2nix generates the nix from it
<Miyu-saki> I'm guessing it's a nixpkgs thing.
<Miyu-saki> Can you send me your whole --tree output?
<pikajude> what's the status of haskell cross compilation
<pikajude> i'm hoping to pick up tips from it for rust cross compilation
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<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: whoa that is big
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<tomberek> has anyone had success with managing channels using git? nix-channel really wants there to be a https url, but i'm trying to create a private channel
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<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: Can we remove the "duplicate" somehow or am I hosed?
<adisbladis> tomberek: I'm not using channels at all. Just a nixpkgs git checkout.
<tomberek> adisbladis: yeah, i usually do that for myself, but i'm trying to make it easier on co-workers who are still learning Nix
<tomberek> basically, i want to do: nix-channels --add ssh://git@github.com/private/repo internal
<adisbladis> tomberek: Channels are not exactly the same as a nixpkgs checkout though.
<tomberek> this would be a pinned nixpkgs, with a bunch of overlays on top of it, managed in that repo
<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Still have to check.
<cole-h> It would probably be easier to just `git clone ssh://git@github.com/private/repo.git internal` and then `export NIX_PATH=internal=/abs/path/to/internal:$NIX_PATH`
<tomberek> nix-env doesn't use NIX_PATH, and there are some differences.... a nix-channel is basically a canonical place to put the git checkout and has some defaults that make it easier. Otherwise i have to teach everyone about NIX_PATH and it ends up being fragile
<Miyu-saki> smh, I wish there was Emacs integration of --tree
<tomberek> i COULD make some deploy keys, but then access isn't managed by ssh, so revoking access requires rotating the key, annoying for users, or every person has their own key, also annoying
<Miyu-saki> It shouldn't be hard tho. Hm.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81830 → broot: 0.13.1 -> 0.13.2 → https://git.io/JvVSZ
<tomberek> adisbladis: i would ask people to clone into ~/.nix-defexpr/channels, but it's RO and in /nix/store
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<Miyu-saki> Well, that was easy.
<Miyu-saki> > (re-search-backward (concat "^" (make-string (- (cl-search "+" (thing-at-point 'line t)) 4) ?.) "+"))
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected $undefined, expecting ')', at (string):287:80
<Miyu-saki> Whoops.
<Miyu-saki> If anyone uses Emacs, you can go up the tree using this.
<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Hi. You stil laround?
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<AWizzArd> stigo: no, what is --pure?
<Miyu-saki> --pure clears your environment before going into the shell.
<AWizzArd> And this works with `nix-shell` too?
<tomberek> adisbladis: looks like nix-channels can take a file:// uri, that may work
<Miyu-saki> Yes. It's specifically for nix-shell.
<Miyu-saki> Also. Just checked your original request.
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<Miyu-saki> When you run `nix-shell --pure`, it ensures that your environment's references are all under /nix/store.
<Miyu-saki> (To some extent)
<AWizzArd> Is there a way how I can have `nix-shell` use a specific version a some package, say, GHC 8.4.2?
<AWizzArd> With --package ghc I always get 8.8.2
<Miyu-saki> I'd just write a .nix at that point.
<AWizzArd> Okay I see.
<Miyu-saki> but IIRC, you can do `nix-shell -p ghc-x.y.z`
<Miyu-saki> Or wass it just xyz
<Valodim[m]> nix-shell -p ghc-<tab>
<Miyu-saki> You can use `nix repl` then tab-complete ghc-
<Miyu-saki> Does tab completion work on non-NixOS out of the box?
<Valodim[m]> maybe not? dunno
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<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: I am cooking dinner but will be available soon
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<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @dguibert opened pull request #89 → oneplus-bacon: add kernel → https://git.io/JvV9s
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<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Oh. Just that I'm not exactly sure how to fix it either. :/
<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: If your cabal2nix isn't generating a package set, that means that it's using NixOS's package set.
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<Miyu-saki> Seems like there's something wrong with the 'random' package when you use cabal2nix, idk.
<evanjs> So I'm trying to clean up my expression for kivy so I can potentially upstream it, but was wondering how I might best handle this large number of useFlags. Should I do a lib.optional (and add to pySetupBuildFlags or wherever) for each option, or is that a little overkill? https://github.com/kivy/kivy/blob/master/setup.py
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<Miyu-saki> cinimod_: Gave it more look, and seems like it's the result of haskellSrc2nix
<Miyu-saki> name = "cabal2nix-${name}"
<Miyu-saki> I'm really lost right now tbh. :P
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<eeva> thefloweringash: thx, I'll give it a try
<bqv[m]> worldofpeace: i've revamped this, which should address all of your initial concerns including the FHS env. take a look if you can https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/80402
<{^_^}> #80402 (by bqv, 2 weeks ago, open): ripcord: init at 0.4.23
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #81184 → python3Packages.sapi-python-client: init at 0.13.1 → https://git.io/JvzcL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed to master « python3Packages.sapi-python-client: init at 0.13.1 (#81184) »: https://git.io/JvV9w
<cinimod_> Miyu-saki: I think I am going to report this as a bug as I have managed to recreate it on macOS and ubuntu
<cinimod_> I think garbage collecting and starting again will solve it but it's a really sub-optimal solution
<cinimod_> Enjoy the rest of your day
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #81633 → Tensorflow: fix #77626 → https://git.io/JvaGD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JvV9P
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<johnw> if I `nix copy` my store to another directory, can I use that store copy as a binary cache?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oyren closed pull request #60090 → write_stylus: removed desktop icons → https://git.io/fj3Ki
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed to release-19.09 « create-amis: Add eu-north-1 »: https://git.io/JvV9S
<clever> johnw: if you use the right URI, yes
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~]$ nix copy --to file:///tmp/cache-test /nix/store/ghz4a2vzvy4ad8lw2f23ahijzyg7933n-bluez-5.50
<LnL> not sure if you can substitute with a regular store, but a file store will definitively work since it's a cache
<clever> johnw: that creates a cache that is identical in layout to a binary cache
<clever> $ cat /etc/nix/nix.conf | grep tmp
<clever> substituters = http://nas.localnet:8081/ file:///tmp/cache https://hydra.angeldsis.com
<ar> .24
<clever> LnL: and i have used exactly such a URI as my cache before, when checking to see if it helps IFD stuff
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<johnw> the problem is that nix copy cannot copy large stores into a binary cache
<LnL> clever: I mean a local store
<{^_^}> nix#3386 (by jwiegley, 20 hours ago, open): `nix copy` consumes unbounded memory in some cases
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<clever> LnL: that might work also, with `local?root=/tmp/cache` in both nix copy and substituters
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<clever> johnw: try using `local?root=/tmp/cache` as the URI in both cases then
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<LnL> copy should work, but does substituters understand that?
<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos-website] @samueldr closed pull request #4 → Fix date in article → https://git.io/JvV21
<clever> LnL: i think substituters is now a list of URI's, and https://hydra.angeldsis.com just means use the narinfo protocol over https
<clever> which is a read-only URI
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<LnL> the message looks weird tho
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<clever> LnL: i think the nixos installer does something very similar, to bind-mount the host /nix into the guest, and then use the host store as a cache
<clever> LnL: so any store paths shipped on the ISO can be used directly
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<johnw> clever: thanks, will do!
<johnw> just add "local?root=/tmp/cache" to trustedBinaryCaches?
<clever> johnw: the other one
<johnw> sorry, which other one?
<clever> nix.binaryCaches is the default list of caches for all users, which is trusted automatically
<johnw> ah, ok
<clever> nix.trustedBinaryCaches is a list of non-default caches, which a user can opt-into, using `--option substituters ...`
<johnw> great, copying 133,353 entries into my local clone now, and then will try
<clever> which nix-daemon will still trust to be safe
<johnw> in my config I have binaryCaches = trustedBinaryCaches; :)
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<clever> johnw: you can likely just ignore trustedBinaryCaches entirely, only set binaryCaches
<worldofpeace> bqv: reviewed. Probably should have mentioned the QT section of the nixpkgs manual before.
<bqv[m]> gotcha, thanks!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81836 → emplace: 0.2.10 -> 0.2.12 → https://git.io/JvVHu
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<johnw> clever: ok
<dashkal> When I try to shutdown, the system gets hung up on rngd at the very last step. This sound familiar to anybody?
<lovesegfault> clever: my config repo has turned against me
<lovesegfault> if I build it on my machine vs on my server I get different results
<clever> lovesegfault: use nix-instantiate to get the .drv file for the build, on both machines
<clever> lovesegfault: then use nix-copy-closure to copy one .drv to the other machine, so they are both on one box
<clever> lovesegfault: then use nix-diff to compare the 2 drv files, how do they differ?
<lovesegfault> on it
<selfsymmetric-pa> dashkal: Yes, that's normal on 20.03 beta. It's supposedly been fixed, we just need the branch to be updated.
<lovesegfault> Argh, clever nix-diff is broken :(
<selfsymmetric-pa> dashkal: Here is the tracking issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/80871
<{^_^}> #80871 (by dayflip, 1 week ago, closed): Long startup and shutdown on 20.03 BETA
<clever> lovesegfault: broken?
<selfsymmetric-pa> dashkal: And here is the supposed fix: https://github.com/skykanin/nixpkgs/commit/4ec10a84e6dfac2bbd895f3c3758db884f350a6e
<dashkal> selfsymmetric-pa: Much appreciated! I can happily wait it out then if this is a known issue/fixed.
<lovesegfault> clever: error: Package ‘nix-diff-1.0.8’ in .... is marked as broken, refusing to evaluate.
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<clever> lovesegfault: try getting it from an older nixpkgs, or directly from the repo
<lovesegfault> on it
<evanjs> Blah. Think I'll just open a WIP PR with all the kivy options enabled for now. hopefully it'll get further than #29305
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/29305 (by vanschelven, 2 years ago, closed): Python-kivy: init at 1.10.0
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<lovesegfault> clever: repo is borked too, sigh, some missing dep. Let me see if I can fix it
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<lovesegfault> clever: success :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81837 → findomain: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.2 → https://git.io/JvVQt
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<clever> lovesegfault: line 78, the version of nixos differs
<lovesegfault> But... how?
<lovesegfault> I am using `-I nixpkgs=` on the exact same repo
<clever> lovesegfault: can you run `nix-store -q --binding revision` on the 2 drv files from line 59 and 60?
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<lovesegfault> clever: goddamnit they are different
<lovesegfault> vat da hall
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<clever> lovesegfault: how does the file reference nixos?
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<lovesegfault> one moment
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #81718 → [20.03] openssl_1_0_2: mark as insecure; fixes #77503 (kinda) → https://git.io/JvaFQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/JvVQ4
<flodeskum> Hey, anybody know if it´s possible to make libstdc++ available in buildFHSUserEnv without using LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
<lovesegfault> in that second file I added a `lib.traceVal` and verified the path to pkgs is correct
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<clever> lovesegfault: and what is -I nixpkgs= set to?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ericdallo opened pull request #81838 → clojure-lsp: 20200121T234305 -> 20200305T151710 → https://git.io/JvVQV
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<lovesegfault> clever: a diffent path, but to the same checkout of this: https://github.com/lovesegfault/nixpkgs/commits/nixpkgs-lovesegfault
<clever> lovesegfault: and what did -q --binding return, for each?
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<lovesegfault> 3d6cdfa24bd771b36e8c87241d17275dd144c7a3
<lovesegfault> 93fd4b7f0074e1fa3b277b301bd7e0a08100b29a
<lovesegfault> for /nix/store/0944whafcp0z5qj99xvpxwzal1y7y96m-nixos-version.drv and /nix/store/mw6gl2yz8p3dayk1n7b2xrhi9xdkpsrk-nixos-version.drv
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<clever> lovesegfault: and if you cd into each nixpkgs dir, and `git rev-parse HEAD` what do you get?
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<lovesegfault> clever: the exact same value, 203388ac49db936c1ce923239b4715fc9ca8e11f
<clever> lovesegfault: which is none of the above...
<lovesegfault> Amaze
<clever> lovesegfault: that would imply your not even respecting -I nixpkgs=
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<clever> lovesegfault: how was the default.nix loaded?
<lovesegfault> `nix build -f. foucault` and `nix-build -A foucault` both produced the same results
<lovesegfault> (I tend to use `nix build` more because it's flashier`
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<clever> lovesegfault: what about `NIX_PATH=notning nix-build -A foucault` ?
<lovesegfault> clever: error: file 'nixpkgs' was not found in the Nix search path (add it using $NIX_PATH or -I), at /home/bemeurer/src/nix-config/default.nix:1:20
<clever> lovesegfault: then add a `-I nixpkgs=` ?
<lovesegfault> I bet this will work
<lovesegfault> I hate NIX_PATH so much
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ericdallo closed pull request #81838 → clojure-lsp: 20200121T234305 -> 20200305T151710 → https://git.io/JvVQV
<lovesegfault> clever: how do I point to home-manager? -I home-manager=~/.nix-defexpr/channels/home-manager ?
<lovesegfault> I want to pin all this stuff
<lovesegfault> and never have to touch a channel again
<lovesegfault> ever
<clever> lovesegfault: have a look at niv
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* lovesegfault looks
* lovesegfault tries it
<lovesegfault> clever: eh, can I make it track my fork of nixpkgs?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81839 → gleam: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JvVQN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81836 → emplace: 0.2.10 -> 0.2.12 → https://git.io/JvVHu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvV72
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas merged pull request #327 → Add flake.nix → https://git.io/JvEp6
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to master « Add flake.nix (#327) »: https://git.io/JvV7a
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<makefu> LnL dhess: ./hydra-check darcs 20.03
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81837 → findomain: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.2 → https://git.io/JvVQt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvV7A
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #81831 → clojure-lsp: 20200121T234305 -> 20200305T151710 → https://git.io/JvV9T
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<silver_hook> Just installed Roccat Tools and it complains I don’t have access to /dev/hidraw* …what’s the proper solution here?
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<exarkun> why doesn't nix-shell run install tests?
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<niksnut> exarkun: nix-shell only runs what you tell it to run
<exarkun> well, obviously
<niksnut> you can certainly do something like 'make installcheck' provided you use a writable prefix
<exarkun> that's how my whole computer works, how about yours? :)
<exarkun> Let me try to ask a better question
<exarkun> for a given `default.nix` which specifies a `checkPhase` and uses buildPythonApplication, why does `nix-build` run the checkPhase and `nix-shell` does not?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @OPNA2608 opened pull request #81840 → bambootracker: init at 0.3.5 → https://git.io/JvV5m
<gchristensen> buildPythonApplication also has an unpackPhase, and nix-shell doesn't run that either
<gchristensen> (or a build phase, etc.)
<gchristensen> nix-shell doesn't run any phases by default, just the shellHook
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<exarkun> okay. and buildPythonApplication provides a shellHook of some sort, which does not include checkPhase...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #81788 → brave: 1.4.95 -> 1.4.96 → https://git.io/JvVZs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvV54
<benley> anyone here use skopeo on nixos? I'm trying to figure out why it's complaining about /etc/containers/policy.json not existing when it looks like the nixpkgs derivation explicitly addresses that
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #81793 → [20.03] brave 1.4.95 to 1.4.96 → https://git.io/JvVZr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/JvV5R
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<benley> I have a workaround in the form of the --insecure-policy commandline option but it looks like it shouldn't be necessary
<lovesegfault> clever: I'm making progress on pinning
<lovesegfault> I got niv to point to the right thing
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<lovesegfault> clever: unfortunately I'm having a super hard time with tracing stuff
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<clever> lovesegfault: `unset NIX_PATH` and stop using -I nixpkgs=, and then every non-pinned thing will reveal itself
<lovesegfault> clever: Yeah, I'm doing that already; my problem is with this line, one moment
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<lovesegfault> clever: Check this out:
<lovesegfault> the problem is I have no idea how to replicate that import on `home/default.nix`
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<lovesegfault> and my traceVal for `foo` obviously doesn't show up b/c nix is laze
<silver_hook> How do I create and add a user to plugdev group?
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<clever> lovesegfault: replace <home-manager with (sources.home-manager + "/home-manager/home-manager.nix")
<silver_hook> extraGroups doesn’t seem to be enough
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<clever> lovesegfault: at, i see the trace on line 2 now, you would need to put that into the set on line 12, and then eval the attr its within
<lovesegfault> clever: got it
<lovesegfault> I'm also trying to not reference `sources.nix` anywhere that isn't the root `default.nix`
<lovesegfault> I think I'm close now
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<lovesegfault> clever: Can you make me understand what ... does in {...}:{}
<lovesegfault> like I understand { foo }: {}
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<clever> lovesegfault: defines a function, that accepts a set, and ignores all the arguments
<lovesegfault> but wth is ... and when do I need it?
<clever> the ... means it ignores any arguments not named
<lovesegfault> Oh, I see
<clever> { config, pkgs, ... }: accepts 2, and ignores the rest
<lovesegfault> interesting
* lovesegfault does stuff
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81841 → jackett: 0.12.1301 -> 0.13.467 → https://git.io/JvV5N
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<lovesegfault> clever: it works!
<lovesegfault> fully reproducible builds!
<{^_^}> [nixos-org-configurations] @garbas opened pull request #106 → Remove checks for update script for nixos.org website → https://git.io/JvVdf
<flokli> silver_hook: plugdev usually doesn't do what you want to do
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<lovesegfault> clever: Why doesn't this work: https://github.com/lovesegfault/nix-config/blob/pinall/ci.nix
<lovesegfault> error: value is a function while a set was expected
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<lovesegfault> I'd expect to get a set out of zipAttrs
<garbas> lovesegfault: wild guess, you missed to pass an argument to zipAttrs and instead of a set which would be normaly returned you get back partially applied fuction, due to currying
<lovesegfault> garbas: zomg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #81791 → jgmenu: 4.0.2 -> 4.1.0 → https://git.io/JvVZg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVdc
* garbas was a victim of this mistake many times
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj merged pull request #81809 → users.groups.disnix instead of a list → https://git.io/JvV49
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVd8
<lovesegfault> garbas: Dammit I thought you were right, but it's not that
<lovesegfault> look at this:
<lovesegfault> I can't even get show-trace to work
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<garbas> i would bet that either home or system is a function
<bqv[m]> starting to regret opening this PR...
<lovesegfault> I don't think so, because I can do `nix-build -A foucault`
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<lovesegfault> that would also not work if home/system weren't attrs, no?
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<butterthebuddha> Does anybody have instructions on uninstalling home-manager on darwin?
<garbas> lovesegfault: i'd fire up nix repl and test every line in that file one by one
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<rycee> butterthebuddha: Try `home-manager uninstall`.
<lovesegfault> rycee: do you have home-manager as a watch word? :P
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lopsided98 opened pull request #81844 → gcc: place cross-compiled target libraries in lib output → https://git.io/JvVdV
<lovesegfault> garbas: let's see :P
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<butterthebuddha> rycee ty
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81845 → khronos: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 → https://git.io/JvVdw
<lovesegfault> garbas: yeah, the first import is a lamda
<lovesegfault> this guy
<lovesegfault> OH
<lovesegfault> OH
<lovesegfault> OH
<lovesegfault> I GET IT
<lovesegfault> I AM MISSING {}
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<lovesegfault> garbas: Thank you :)
<garbas> lovesegfault: welcome! been there many times :)
<rycee> lovesegfault: I think so. I get a lot of notifications at least. I mostly ignore them and respond in a batch when I have the time :-)
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<lovesegfault> garbas++
<{^_^}> garbas's karma got increased to 1
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<lovesegfault> how can I nix-copy the deps of a nix-shell to another machine?
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<silver_hook> flokli: OK, what do you propose then? I need RW access to the /dev/hidraw* device(s) to flash my mouse’s firmware.
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<garbas> silver_hook!
<silver_hook> garbas: ,o/
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<garbas> silver_hook: i'll be in center of lj tomorrow if you up to grab some coffee
<lovesegfault> what's lj?
<silver_hook> garbas: I’m helping install a new hob at my mum’s place in the morning, but happy to catch up later on. When’re you where?
<silver_hook> lovesegfault: Ljubljana
<lovesegfault> ljubliana/
<lovesegfault> Aha! I was right!
<lovesegfault> I've been to ljubliana :D
<{^_^}> cachix/cachix#9 (by domenkozar, 1 year ago, open): runtime/build-time dependencies
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<lovesegfault> garbas: hmm
<lovesegfault> I'm trying this nix-store -qR --include-outputs /nix/store/0kg6nxgsrjz2caqa9y9bg5v789aaifwf-nix-config.drv | nix-copy-closure --from ssh://myserver
<lovesegfault> but to no avail
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<{^_^}> [nixos-channel-scripts] @garbas opened pull request #32 → Push channels to s3 bucket → https://git.io/JvVFI
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<bqv[m]> ,locate libqtaudio_alsa
<{^_^}> Found in packages: qt59.qtmultimedia.bin, qt511.qtmultimedia.bin
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #81845 → khronos: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 → https://git.io/JvVdw
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<{^_^}> [nixos-channel-scripts] @edolstra merged pull request #32 → Push channels to s3 bucket → https://git.io/JvVFI
<{^_^}> [nixos-channel-scripts] @edolstra pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVFr
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<LnL> makefu: neat :)
<iceypoi> I'm getting a very long ~60s shudown hang on rngd
<iceypoi> using 20.03
<iceypoi> any idea what's wrong?
<cole-h> iceypoi: #80871 might help (I think; didn't read the entire issue)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/80871 (by dayflip, 1 week ago, closed): Long startup and shutdown on 20.03 BETA
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<lovesegfault> iceypoi: it's fixed in master
<iceypoi> ok
<iceypoi> i'm looking up how to override a package again
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<iceypoi> if I understand correctly, I need to import a bleeding-edge nixpkgs
<iceypoi> and then use packageOverrides
<iceypoi> does that make sense?
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<zeta_0> has anyone here developed with elm using nix? would you recommend that i use node2nix to develop elm with? or would you recommend that i use elm2nix(it hasn't been updated in a while though) instead?
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<zeta_0> well i'll try out elm2nix 1st, not sure if it supports the newest version of elm though
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<iceypoi> i figured it out, doing a nixos-rebuild with that one package from unstable
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #81846 → youtube-dl: 2020.03.01 -> 2020.03.06 → https://git.io/JvVbV
<zeta_0> iceypoi: are you responding to me or someone else?
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<iceypoi> zeta_0: nope, more like to the question of overlays
<iceypoi> I haven't used them before
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c0515dad8b5 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-19.09-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/dca7ec628e5 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-19.09-darwin)
<zeta_0> iceypoi: oh, sorry about that
<zeta_0> is there a good documentation link for developing elm with nix? stuff seems to be all over the place, and outdated as well?
<iceypoi> but looks like I've done it incorrectly
<iceypoi> it now tries to pull in the whole system from unstable ><
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<fresheyeball> how can I filter source pulled in from git?
<fresheyeball> I get "cannot refer to other paths"
<fresheyeball> using builtins.filterSource
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<lopsided98> iceypoi: Are you still trying to fix the rngd problem? The fix was to the NixOS module, not the package, so pulling it from unstable won't fix it.
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<lovesegfault> colemickens: I am so close to pinned nixpkgs and home-manager
<lovesegfault> Just need this aarch64 build server to go faster
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<lovesegfault> great it's bootstrapping rustc
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<DigitalKiwi> that sounds fun
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<dhess> makefu: nice work!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hrdinka merged pull request #81628 → python-mapnik: 3.0.16 -> unstable-2020-02-24 → https://git.io/JvasK
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<iceypoi> lopsided98: yes, I'm running it right now
<iceypoi> is there any way how I could pull in the module from unstable?
<iceypoi> (turns out virtualbox is actually compiling, not cached)
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/dca7ec628e5 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.09-small)
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<lopsided98> iceypoi: Have you tried updating? The fix has been backported to 20.03 and I think it should have made it to the channel by now
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<dashkal> I think it's applied. I see the change in the systemd module for rngd.
<dashkal> I haven't rebooted yet though to test it
<iceypoi> oh, I installed the machine only 2-3 days ago. However, now that I did override rngd from unstable, i've also updated my other nix channel
<iceypoi> so once it finished, it should in principle be fixed
<dashkal> I think this fix made it to nixos-unstable in the last 24 hours.
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<iceypoi> well then just wait guys
<iceypoi> my laptop is rebuilding right now
<iceypoi> once it finishes I should be able to verify that it's fixed in 20.03
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc opened pull request #81848 → specialisation: replace nesting with named configurations → https://git.io/JvVNd
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<iceypoi> just finished rebuilding...
<iceypoi> need to reboot first, because I did a rebuild-boot
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #81849 → riot-{web,desktop}: 1.5.10 -> 1.5.12 → https://git.io/JvVNx
<iceypoi> yup FIXED :)
<iceypoi> thanks all
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<iceypoi> n00b question: what channel does nixos take its packages from? "nixos", "nixpkgs" or something else?
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<clever> iceypoi: nixos-rebuild will use <nixpkgs> i believe, and the default $NIX_PATH maps that to the nixos channel on root
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @roberth merged pull request #80919 → lib/modules.nix: Add file context to unmerged values in mergeDefinitions → https://git.io/Jv0hS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @roberth pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVNh
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<iceypoi> thanks
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<zeta_0> i was able to install elm2nix in my home.nix but node2nix and npm2nix threw an error? why aren't these tools in nixpkgs?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81849 → riot-{web,desktop}: 1.5.10 -> 1.5.12 → https://git.io/JvVNx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer closed pull request #81714 → riot-web: 1.5.10 -> 1.5.11 → https://git.io/Jva5L
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvVAi
<rooke> So `fetchgit` accepts a tag number in place of a commit hash for rev. Does `builtins.fetchGit` also allow for this?
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<aranea> Is there a way to make nix install external kernel modules such as wireguard for the currently running kernel in addition to the kernel that'll be booted by default on the next boot?
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<zeta_0> nevermind, i figured it out, you guys need place nodePackages in the nixpkgs search, a newcomer will think that it does not exist
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81688 → heimer: 1.15.0 -> 1.15.1 → https://git.io/JvawY
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<benley> I'm using dockerTools.buildLayeredImage to build images for running CI jobs, and one of the things I need in there is /bin/ar, which comes from binutils. So I put pkgs.binutils in the `contents` field like normal. But the result is .... no /bin/ar. It adds /bin/as and /bin/ld (and ld.bfd and ld.gold), but that's it. What gives?
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<benley> Alternately: Is there a simpler way of building a docker image that contains the equivalent of a stdenv to run stuff in?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81839 → gleam: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JvVQN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81686 → go-license-detector: 3.0.2 -> 3.1.0 → https://git.io/JvaVz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81695 → libqalculate: 3.7.0 -> 3.8.0 → https://git.io/JvaXI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81734 → abcmidi: 2019.12.09 -> 2020.02.12 → https://git.io/JvVvG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « abcmidi: 2019.12.09 -> 2020.02.12 »: https://git.io/JvVAx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81671 → chafa: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 → https://git.io/JvagD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81676 → codeql: 2.0.2 -> 2.0.4 → https://git.io/Jva2Z
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « codeql: 2.0.2 -> 2.0.4 »: https://git.io/JvVxv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81662 → zsh-syntax-highlighting: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JvaEH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « zsh-syntax-highlighting: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 »: https://git.io/JvVxJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81565 → [staging] pythonPackages.cffi: 1.13.2 -> 1.14.0 → https://git.io/Jv2FW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81670 → bitwarden_rs-vault: 2.12.0c -> 2.12.0e → https://git.io/JvazX
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<benley> this is so weird - if I interactively do `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.binutils` I end up with all the right stuff in ~/.nix-profile/bin, including ar. But if I put the same derivation in a dockerTools.buildLayeredImage layer, it's missing nearly everything.
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<LnL> benley: that's because of propagatedUserEnvPackages
<benley> ohhhh?
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<benley> it looks like if I use binutils-unwrapped, then I get all the tools linked. But I kinda expect that's going to break something else
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dasJ opened pull request #81851 → libksi: Bump openssl dependency for rsyslogd → https://git.io/JvVx8
<LnL> well depends what you're doing, wrappers only work properly (nix isms) in a shell
<benley> gotcha. I'm building base images to be used as runtime environments for a gitlab-ci setup
<benley> I'm also questioning whether this is even a good idea, or if I should have everything use a base image that just contains nix and maybe busybox, and have them supply a shell.nix that spells out their own dependencies
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81653 → wpgtk: 6.0.12 -> 6.0.13 → https://git.io/JvaBn
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<nerdmaxx> 7
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<LnL> benley: that sounds like a better approach to me
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81852 → pueue: 0.1.5 -> 0.1.6 → https://git.io/JvVxg
<LnL> benley: depending on how you're running the containers you can even not put nix in the container to enable sharing of build results
<benley> lol now my build is failing because it can't find zlib.h, which is probably happening because binutils-unwrapped doesn't handle whatever nix stuff is necessary to find it
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<GrimSleepless> Hey guys! I was wondering is there a date at which the version 20.03 should be released? :)
<bqv[m]> is hydra ok?
<bqv[m]> my rebuilds keep getting stuck on ibus
<fresheyeball> I just published a new OS Nix project
<butterthebuddha> I'm trying to follow the nix-darwin instructions for installing home-manage
<fresheyeball> dropping it here incase anyone finds it useful
<butterthebuddha> Where exactly am I supposed to add the "imports = [ ... ]" line?
<bqv[m]> nevermind, it was just awfully slow
<bqv[m]> oh, i'm downloading a steam game. it might be my side.
<infinisil> fresheyeball: Neat!
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<fresheyeball> infinisil: thanks! Its provided good value at work. Design wants to tweak a color, and everything just stays in sync
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #80409 → azure-storage-azcopy: v10.3.2 -> v10.3.4 → https://git.io/Jv4lR
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<benley> yeah, that's probably a better approach
<LnL> advantage is that you don't have builds constantly redownload/build things if they end up on the same host
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<LnL> and you don't need any special base image
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81666 → bitcoin-abc: 0.20.12 -> 0.21.1 → https://git.io/Jvazg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81755 → debootstrap: 1.0.117 -> 1.0.119 → https://git.io/JvVIv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81649 → xmrig: 5.5.3 -> 5.7.0 → https://git.io/Jva8K
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<benley> LnL: assuming they end up in an environment where /nix/store can persist between runs, yeah
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<lovesegfault> can I nix-build a `shell.nix`?
<lovesegfault> in particulat: I have a ci.nix and I want to make sure when I `nix-build ci.nix` it also builds my shell
<lovesegfault> cc. clever, flokli
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<lovesegfault> If I do the naive thing (shell = import ./shell.nix; and then ci = [ ... shell ];) I get this:
<lovesegfault> builder for '/nix/store/91qbrdj0xcqpq17bc0gg3c659gl601ac-nix-config.drv' failed with exit code 1; last 4 log lines:
<lovesegfault> nobuildPhase
<benley> yes pretty much. If you're in a directory where shell.nix doesn't exist, nix-shell will use default.nix
<lovesegfault> which makes sense
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<benley> so if you write a default.nix that happens to also work as a shell.nix, you can go ahead and build it - oh, or I might be misinterpreting your question, sorry
<lovesegfault> benley: I think you are, and no worries :)
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<jared-w> lovesegfault: Do you want the shell built so that running `nix-shell` is nearly instant?
<lovesegfault> jared-w: correcto
<lovesegfault> also so that when I do nix-build ci.nix -A ci | cachix push the shell's deps get pushed to my cache
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<jared-w> lovesegfault: that's a much easier problem to solve :)
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<jared-w> Make it so that you can write the entire contents of your shell as `mkshell { buildInputs = [ (import ./ci.nix) ]; }` (or something like that)
<jared-w> boom, shell inputs built
<lovesegfault> Hm? I don't think I get it
<lovesegfault> one second
<lovesegfault> let me show you my latest attempt
<jared-w> another approach I've seen is `mkShell (import ./default.nix { shell = true; })` or something to that effect