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<hexa-> think ath9k, ath10k, iwlwifi … all to some degree
<lovesegfault> hexa-: How do I set that up?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81566 → python27Packages.azure-mgmt-keyvault: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.1 → https://git.io/Jv2F0
<lovesegfault> Mic92: It's meant to be more powerful... I think? Does weechat have a bouncer mode?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81567 → python27Packages.authlib: 0.13 -> 0.14.1 → https://git.io/Jv2Fa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « python27Packages.authlib: 0.13 -> 0.14.1 »: https://git.io/Jv2bf
<hexa-> lovesegfault: depends on your ap
<lovesegfault> hexa-: It's some POS the ISP gave me
<lovesegfault> success!
<lovesegfault> Mic92: Oh, nice!
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<hexa-> lovesegfault: probably SOL
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<{^_^}> [nixops] @grahamc merged pull request #1232 → 2-to-3: Start with types → https://git.io/JvgOs
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<{^_^}> [nixops] @grahamc closed pull request #1227 → Python 2to3, too → https://git.io/JvRwn
<{^_^}> [nixops] @grahamc closed pull request #1214 → Upgrade to Python3 → https://git.io/Je5SW
<{^_^}> [nixops] @grahamc closed pull request #634 → [WIP] Add vultr backend → https://git.io/vSv07
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81571 → python37Packages.hstspreload: 2020.2.5 -> 2020.2.29 → https://git.io/Jv2bn
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<fresheyeball> is there a way to have a systemd service more than once?
<fresheyeball> let's say I want to run two gitlab instances on one box
<b42> yay, python3 nixops \o/
<infinisil> fresheyeball: Generic methods for multiple same services include creating multiple units like `gitlab-foo` and `gitlab-bar`, or using systemd service templates like `gitlab@`
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<infinisil> See `man systemd.service` for the latter
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<infinisil> Usually NixOS modules don't support either though
<infinisil> (so they'd have to be adjusted)
<gchristensen> the next nixops release will be Python 3 =) thank you aminechikhaoui and other contributors =)
<infinisil> And usually you'd want to use the former way for NixOS modules
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<fresheyeball> infinisil: what is a systemd service template?
<{^_^}> [nixops] @grahamc opened pull request #1241 → Partially apply @doshitan's #1238 ... part 2 → https://git.io/Jv2bB
<infinisil> fresheyeball: See the man page I referred to
<fresheyeball> ok
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<worldofpeace> gchristensen++
<{^_^}> gchristensen's karma got increased to 216
<worldofpeace> lovesegfault: hot, can you paste the content of bin/lollypop (it will be a shell script)
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<b42> fresheyeball: another solution which doesn't require adjusting the NixOS module is to run each instance in a declarative container https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/#sec-declarative-containers
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<fresheyeball> b42: ooooo
<fresheyeball> le sexy
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<worldofpeace> lovesegfault: looks perfect.
<fresheyeball> b42: containers looks like a win. I should be able to use this to setup mutliple gitlab-runner instances on one machine
<fresheyeball> much parallel
<b42> yeah they are pretty cool:)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bignaux opened pull request #81572 → appimage: refactoring extractType2 to avoid use of appimage packer → https://git.io/Jv2b6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko merged pull request #80856 → nixos/acme: adjust renewal timer options → https://git.io/Jv02Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko merged pull request #80857 → [20.03] nixos/acme: adjust renewal timer options → https://git.io/Jv023
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko pushed 2 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/Jv2bM
<infinisil> Oh forgot about containers
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko merged pull request #80900 → nixos/acme: Must-Staple and extra flags → https://git.io/Jv0HB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv2b7
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<cvasic> was anyone else having a problem with cache.nixos.org for a minute?
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<cvasic> i got a 503 backend unavailable, connection timeout. not sure if it was a configuration problem for me, if the server was overloaded for a second or what
<cvasic> seems to be working now though
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #80845 → haskell shellFor: Fix hoogle → https://git.io/Jv0uY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jv2AC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81573 → python37Packages.asdf: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.2 → https://git.io/Jv2A4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm closed pull request #81570 → python37Packages.cmd2: 0.9.25 -> 0.10.1 → https://git.io/Jv2Fb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout opened pull request #81574 → Fix spago again → https://git.io/Jv2pm
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<mjrosenb> if my shell.nix is (import ./default.nix).env; is there a way to modify this to request another package for running nix-shell?
<evanjs> Hrm, looks like keras-retinanet is not among those (keras) apps available in nixpkgs atm?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81576 → python27Packages.bayesian-optimization: 1.0.1 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/Jv2ps
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<clever> mjrosenb: .env.overrideAttrs(old: { buildInputs = old.buildInputs ++ [ pkgs.hello ]; })
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<wedens[m]> can someone knowledgeable in nixops+libvirt take a look at discussion on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/81161?
<{^_^}> #81161 (by wedens, 4 days ago, open): libvirt: 5.4.0 -> 6.0.0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81577 → python27Packages.gym: 0.15.6 -> 0.16.0 → https://git.io/Jv2pR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81578 → python37Packages.ckcc-protocol: 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 → https://git.io/Jv2pE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81579 → python27Packages.azure-mgmt-storage: 7.1.0 -> 7.2.0 → https://git.io/Jv2pg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81580 → python37Packages.azure-mgmt-appconfiguration: 0.3.0 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/Jv2pw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81581 → python27Packages.denonavr: 0.7.10 -> 0.7.12 → https://git.io/Jv2pX
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<peelz> is there a shorter way to write this: if (oldAttrs ? patches) then oldAttrs.patches else []
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<gchristensen> .override({ patches ? [] }: { patches = patches ++ [ your-patches ];})
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<gchristensen> .override({ patches ? [], ... }: { patches = patches ++ [ your-patches ];})
<peelz> gchristensen: oh of course, argument destructuring! thanks
<gchristensen> or something like that, lol. overrideATtrs. OK it is obviously beyond my bedtime!
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<peelz> haha aight, good night. thanks :D
<gchristensen> yep!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @magnetophon opened pull request #81582 → dragonfly-reverb: 2.0.0 -> 3.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv2pF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mjlbach closed pull request #81491 → [20.03] Init bazel 1 → https://git.io/Jv2Bb
<mjrosenb> clever: thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #81574 → spago: fix again after bump to lts-15 → https://git.io/Jv2pm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 7 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Jv2hm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #81584 → quaternion: fix build with config.allowAliases=false → https://git.io/Jv2hz
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<jackdk> I am trying to call pypi2nix inside a runCommand, because I want a rough equivalent to callCabal2nix for a development shell I am building. however, I get a no such file/directory error because "nix-shell" can't be found in that environment. what am I doing wrong?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #81585 → hydra: fix build with config.allowAliases=false → https://git.io/Jv2hi
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<lovesegfault> Something keeps creating ~/Downloads/tzdata
<lovesegfault> I have no idea what it is
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81586 → python27Packages.pyface: 6.1.1 -> 6.1.2 → https://git.io/Jv2hd
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<cole-h> Same. Strange.
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<lovesegfault> cole-h: Do you use waybar?
<lovesegfault> I have a strong theory that the new date library it uses is the culprit
<cole-h> I do. That could be it.
<lovesegfault> That's it then
<lovesegfault> I even know what the issue is
<cole-h> Running `Waybar v0.9.0-44-ga555a72 (Jan 17 2020, branch 'master')` if it helps
<lovesegfault> let's see if my fix works
<bdju> I just remembered I forgot to come back to troubleshoot the luajit update failure stuf f, but now I'm about to go to bed... Here's a paste of some stuff in case it helps, I'll be back tomorrow. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c1d5e6d5/
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<{^_^}> Alexays/Waybar#566 (by lann, 4 weeks ago, open): clock module error "Timezone database not found at"...
<lovesegfault> I see
<lovesegfault> HMMM
<cole-h> Deleted `build` and rebuilt and no new folder.
<cole-h> Aha! But using the one from nixpkgs does drop that folder
<lovesegfault> Hm
<lovesegfault> yes
<cole-h> `nix-shell -p waybar` -> `waybar` -> `~/Downloads/tzdata`
<cole-h> :(
<lovesegfault> if I enable USE_SYSTEM_TZ_DB in the howard-hinnant-date formula the build fails
* lovesegfault sigh
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<cole-h> What about `use_system_tzdb`?
<lovesegfault> Hm?
<cole-h> I'm unfamiliar with meson so idk if that would actually do anything :-)
* lovesegfault tries
<lovesegfault> It doesn't
<lovesegfault> it shouldn't
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<cole-h> lovesegfault: Maybe you did something wrong because I added `-DUSE_SYSTEM_TZ_DB=true` to `cmakeFlags` and it built for me
<cole-h> Wait, you were saying waybar didn't build oops
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<lovesegfault> No
<lovesegfault> howard-...-date
<lovesegfault> didn't build
<cole-h> Oh
<cole-h> Then yeah
<cole-h> All I did was add that to cmakeFlags and it built fine for me
<lovesegfault> I also removed BUILD_TZ_LIB
<lovesegfault> i guess I shouldn't
<cole-h> Yeah, that is necessary :P
<lovesegfault> Now it works, let's see waybar
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<lovesegfault> looks good!
<cole-h> Yep, committing now >:)
<lovesegfault> [2020-03-02 21:37:52.915] [error] clock: discover_tz_dir failed to find zoneinfo
<lovesegfault> cole-h: not so fast!
<cole-h> D:
<cole-h> It works fine for me. Probably because not NixOS :D
<lovesegfault> Yeah
<lovesegfault> I'm on NixOS
<cole-h> Maybe add tzdata to `buildInputs`?
<cole-h> Or native or whatever idk
<lovesegfault> I'm looking at the source
<cole-h> See if you can get by with just linking `${tzdata}/share/zoneinfo $out/share/zoneinfo`
<lovesegfault> it will take more than that
<lovesegfault> it's dumb code
<lovesegfault> one sec
<cole-h> It's looking for a zoneinfo folder, which `tzdata` has in `result/share/zoneinfo`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81587 → python37Packages.pikepdf: 1.10.0 -> 1.10.2 → https://git.io/Jv2jc
<lovesegfault> Yeah but it looks for it using an abspath
<cole-h> howard hinnant y
<cole-h> Patch time it is
<cole-h> (I'll let you send the PR. Ping me and I'll r+, for what good that's worth)
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<lovesegfault> You can do it, I'm about to zzz
<lovesegfault> I'd only have time tomorrow
<lovesegfault> just @me for review if you want
<lovesegfault> THIS CODE IS SO BAD
<cole-h> looooool
<cole-h> I don't use NixOS so I can't actually verify if it works though :D
<cole-h> I mean, it should™
<lovesegfault> How do you want to patch it?
<lovesegfault> I'd make it look in `$SYSTEM_TZ_DB_DIR`
<lovesegfault> like, just try that env var after trying those dirs
<cole-h> Is that a thing?
<lovesegfault> Nope, we can make it one
<lovesegfault> :D
<cole-h> tbh I'd just patch it to be `@tzdata@/share/zoneinfo` and use `substituteAll` or whatever the function is
<lovesegfault> sounds good to me!
<lovesegfault> I can test it in the am
<cole-h> OK, I'll work on it then
<lovesegfault> <3
<lovesegfault> cole-h++
<{^_^}> cole-h's karma got increased to 4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #81009 → ocaml-ng.ocamlPackages_4_10.ocaml: 4.10.0+rc2 → 4.10.0 → https://git.io/JvEQq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed to master « ocaml-ng.ocamlPackages_4_10.ocaml: 4.10.0+rc2 → 4.10.0 »: https://git.io/Jv2ju
<li_matrix> is there a nix2 equivalent to `nix-store --query --requisites` ?
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<cole-h> lovesegfault: I think I'll just open a PR against my nixpkgs and you can tell me if it works or not before I open it against the main repo. I don't have any way to test it x)
<lovesegfault> cole-h: if you give me a patch in the next ~30min I can test it
<lovesegfault> I'm just watching my show before zz
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<cole-h> Easily done. Sec
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #81588 → satallax: use GCC 8 → https://git.io/Jv2ji
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<li_matrix> found it : nix show-derivation, although the output is json, but thats even better
<clever> li_matrix: there is also `nix-store --query --binding out` which can query any single field of the drv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81589 → python27Packages.localzone: 0.9.5 -> 0.9.6 → https://git.io/Jv2jS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81590 → python27Packages.msal: 1.0.0 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/Jv2jF
<mjrosenb> speaking of, can I get nix to print the transitive list of all dependencies for a derivation?
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<clever> mjrosenb: runtime or buildtime deps?
<mjrosenb> build time.
<clever> mjrosenb: run `nix-store -qR` on the .drv file
<mjrosenb> well that did not make anything clearer. maybe runtime will?
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<clever> mjrosenb: for that, run -qR on the result symlink from nix-build
<energizer`> i'm trying pypi2nix. it's failing to install setuptools-scm as a dependency for something. how to fix it? https://bpaste.net/3HKA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81591 → python27Packages.identify: 1.4.10 -> 1.4.11 → https://git.io/Jvaef
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #81592 → kepubify: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 → https://git.io/JvaeJ
<energizer`> am i reading it right, that `humanize` is a package that's failing to be installed because one of its deps isn't in its buildInputs?
<clever> energizer`: its trying to do network during a build, which isnt allowed
<energizer`> clever: i think it's trying to do network because it wants to install a dependency that's missing
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<energizer`> so i'm trying to provide that dependency in advance so it won't go looking for it on the internet
<clever> ive not done much python in nix, so i dont know the correct way to fix it
<mjrosenb> well, that makes sense. nix-build does the same thing that I consider wrong that happens when I run cabal configure in nix-shell and fails to install.
<mjrosenb> s/install/build/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #81558 → [staging] python3{8,9}: bump → https://git.io/Jv255
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JvaeG
<energizer`> this example seems almost exactly the same -- down to the same failing dep
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81593 → python27Packages.phonenumbers: 8.11.3 -> 8.11.4 → https://git.io/Jvaec
<energizer`> but the fix documented there doesn't work here
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @acairncross to master « python3Packages.monosat: Fix Python 3.8 build »: https://git.io/JvaeB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #81530 → modemmanager: 1.12.4 -> 1.12.6 → https://git.io/Jv26I
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to staging « modemmanager: 1.12.4 -> 1.12.6 »: https://git.io/Jvae0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cole-h opened pull request #81594 → waybar,howard-hinnant-date: allow access to zoneinfo → https://git.io/Jvae2
<cole-h> cc lovesegfault ^
<lovesegfault> cole-h: reviewing
<mjrosenb> ok, I think what I really want is I want to know what chain of dependencies there were between the top-level package, and a particular library that it pulled in.
<cole-h> Make sure I didn't mess anything up between now and 30 minutes ago :P
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<lovesegfault> cole-h: Added one small comment
<lovesegfault> you added tzdata to waybar, where it isn't needed (since only date needs it, and waybar already depends on date)
<cole-h> lovesegfault: Ah right, it's unnecessary because hhdate pulls it in
<cole-h> :)
<lovesegfault> yep :)
<cole-h> Guess I can change the commit and PR title too lol
<lovesegfault> 👍
<cole-h> I love that GitHub shows all the force-pushes, so everybody can see my mistakes (/s)
<lovesegfault> r+'d
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81593 → python27Packages.phonenumbers: 8.11.3 -> 8.11.4 → https://git.io/Jvaec
<lovesegfault> cole-h++
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<cole-h> Oops, ofborg added the waybar maintainers too ^^;
<cole-h> Too slow
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81591 → python27Packages.identify: 1.4.10 -> 1.4.11 → https://git.io/Jvaef
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<lovesegfault> :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « python27Packages.localzone: 0.9.5 -> 0.9.6 »: https://git.io/Jvae1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81589 → python27Packages.localzone: 0.9.5 -> 0.9.6 → https://git.io/Jv2jS
<cole-h> Man nixpkgs is so great (for padding my GitHub activity squares)
<lovesegfault> cole-h: Why don'y you run NixOS yet?
<cole-h> Middle of the semester, mainly
<cole-h> I'm slowly moving all my stuff over (using home-manager atm)
<lovesegfault> best time to move distros imo
<cole-h> rofl
<lovesegfault> the need to get it to work is the incentive
* etu switched his work laptop to NixOS during the lunch break once when he was working from home
<cole-h> I still need to research the viability of vfio, because that is actually a dealbreaker for me
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<etu> Took backups before lunch tough
<cole-h> I don't want to have to reboot for access to Windows with GPU passthrough
<lovesegfault> it took me a while to move out of Gentoo
<lovesegfault> I tried in April 2019 but wasn't convinced
<lovesegfault> then again in October and stuck with it
<lovesegfault> now I'm deep into it
<cole-h> Yeah, so far I'm really enjoying it. It helps that there are so many helpful people on IRC :) lovesegfault++
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<lovesegfault> :)
<etu> #nixos* irc channels are the best linux distro channels I've ever been in. And I've been in many during the years.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81595 → python37Packages.jupyterlab: 1.2.6 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/Jvae9
<cole-h> Speaking of help... If I want to use `allowUnfree`, can I just do `nixpkgs.allowUnfree = true;`, or is there something else?
<cole-h> I'd like to delete my one line `config.nix`
<li_matrix> etu: thats because nixos is the best distro
<lovesegfault> cole-h: you need both, sadly
<lovesegfault> nixpkgs.allowUnfree lets you have unfree pkgs in the system env
<lovesegfault> in the config.nix it's for the user's env
<lovesegfault> IMO setting it systemwide should be enough
<lovesegfault> but it ain't
<cole-h> Darn
<cole-h> It gets annoying having to tab through `config.nix` and `conf` (where I store all my configurations managed with Nix/hm)
<lovesegfault> I'll be honest I haven't looked at my config.nix in a loooon time
<lovesegfault> it just says allowUnfree
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<cole-h> I think I'll follow what you did: put it in a `modules` dir instead
<energizer`> hrm. this situation where i need to clone an old nixpkgs in order to use a single old package..not diggin it
<lovesegfault> cole-h: I really like my setup
<cole-h> I'm curious how you put your system and home config into the same git repo. Do you symlink them in or something? Or do you do the opposite and symlink them out?
<cole-h> (generalizing symlink to cover Nix dealing with files as well)
<lovesegfault> Look at `sync` on the root of the repo
<lovesegfault> that little script rsyncs everything in place
<lovesegfault> and then my configuration.nix/home.nix looks like this: { imports = [ ./system/machines/HOSTNAME.nix ]; }
<lovesegfault> or { imports = [ ./home/machines/HOSTNAME.nix ]; }
<lovesegfault> (respectively)
<cole-h> Ah, I think I understand now. That's pretty smart.
<cole-h> I'll have to revisit that when I finally do jump ship
<lovesegfault> The nicest thing is I can build all my machines in one place
<lovesegfault> and then nix copy to them
<cole-h> So kinda like a budget nixops
<lovesegfault> Yeah, want to try nixops some day
<cole-h> (unrelated: too bad ofborg doesn't un-tag reviewers when they're no longer necessary... :( )
<lovesegfault> just haven't had time
<lovesegfault> ofborg just always tags the maintainers
<lovesegfault> no mater what
<lovesegfault> s/mater/matter/
<cole-h> I mean ma27 is a given because he's the maintainer of this, but there're also waybar people tagged because I touched it when it was unnecessary
<lovesegfault> Oh, I see what you mean
<lovesegfault> yes, that is indeed a bummer
<cole-h> Sorry Florian and Synthetica 😬
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<cole-h> Alright, I'm out, see you guys later :)
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<lovesegfault> o/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thatsmydoing opened pull request #81597 → nixos/nat: fix multiple destination ports with loopback → https://git.io/JvavS
<lelit> ,channels
<{^_^}> Largest Nix-related channels: #nixos, #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin, #nixos-chat, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-wiki, #nixos-borg, #nixos-security, #nix-core
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor merged pull request #81561 → plantuml: 1.2020.1 -> 1.2020.2 → https://git.io/Jv2d8
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<energizer`> hello lelit, I am a fan of your pglast, I use it all the time
<lelit> hi, thank you!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthiasbeyer opened pull request #81599 → timewarrior: Fix homepage → https://git.io/JvaJ5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #81010 → deadbeef: 1.8.0 -> 1.8.2 → https://git.io/JvE70
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81600 → python27Packages.jupytext: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.4 → https://git.io/JvaUC
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<atemu12[m]> cole-h: Take a look at this for VFIO on NixOS: https://gist.github.com/CRTified/43b7ce84cd238673f7f24652c85980b3
<CRTified> And if you have any questions, you can ask me :)
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<chumpasaurus> is it just me or is everyone with i915 on 5.4 getting GPU/machine hangs/freezes with "i915 0000:00:02.0: GPU HANG: ecode 9:4:0xee18c77b, in X [1546], hang on vcs0" now?
<domenkozar[m]> energizer`: it's LRU for cachix
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<energizer`> domenkozar[m]: nice, that's what i hoped :-)
<domenkozar[m]> I'll clarify on the page
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<tilpner> chumpasaurus: I hit a hang too, switched to _latest and no hangs since
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir opened pull request #81601 → gsasl: export LOCALDOMAIN before running tests → https://git.io/JvaTX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #80953 → buildBazelPackage: poison all the fixed output derivations → https://git.io/JvEnU
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<evils> CRTified: any recommendation on GPU passthrough with only 1 GPU in the system?
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<evils> also, got any specific notes about the wx3100? i've got the same
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<flodeskum> Hey, is there no way to enable non-patched binaries in NixOS? I use Bazel/Pants extensively and they don't work in NixOS since they download and execute their own binaries.
<flodeskum> I tried using steam-run but that did not work either.
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<flodeskum> I'm loving the declarative config in NixOS but this unfortunately has become a dealbreaker for using it :(
<LinuxHackerman> flodeskum: you can build user-namespace-based chroot envs like that made by steam-run using buildFHSUserEnv
<LinuxHackerman> with libraries and tools that you specify, rather than just what steam distributes
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<LinuxHackerman> or run debian in a container :p
<flodeskum> LinuxHackerman: Let's say I've got home-manager to manage all the tools/dotfiles I use, can I use buildFHSUserEnv to build a environment that includes all the tools/settings/dotfiles I have set up in home-manger so that I can use the environment just like I would use it without the custom environment?
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<CRTified> evils, I had a single GPU system for a while (with xen as hypervisor and on arch), but it was pretty fragile. If you have a recent intel GPU, you might try playing with iGVT-g, as there is an option for it in nixos
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<evils> CRTified: ryzen 2700
<flodeskum> Yeah, I was thinking about running it in a container. But it requires setting up a bunch of volume-mounts to keep state between invocations. Not super awful but not great.
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<CRTified> evils, and about the WX3100: I use it as my secondary gpu, so Xorg did not want to pick it up correctly. Had to add the BusID in the deviceSection option, and set videoDrivers to amdgpu. I also had to declare xrandrHeads, but that is probably because I use a DP MST-Hub for my screens
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<CRTified> evils, passing the primary GPU should be possible nonetheless, but you might ask for that in a VFIO community, as that's not really nixOS specific. I do not have any usable experience with that, but I know that you basically have to remove the device from the kernel prior to starting the VM (and this probably kills Xorg and child processes)
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<evils> it's been a few months, but i think the only trouble i've had was having to set the videoDrivers as well, got picked up just fine as the only GPU (multi head so ofc i had to set xrandrHeads, though that's since switched to being managed by sway)
<evils> CRTified: passing the only GPU seems like a fairly uncommon setup and fairly complex, so i'm kinda hoping to run into someone that has a nixos config for it :P
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<CRTified> evils, as far as I know it is an imperative thing to handle that (you basically use the sysfs to unbind the devices from the amdgpu module and attach it to vfio-pci), so you'd probably need to wait for a long time to find such a config ;)
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<LinuxHackerman> flodeskum: I'm not sure, I haven't used home-manager extensively myself
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<Taneb> Is it possible to have a multi-page collection of HTML pages as a Hydra build product?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81609 → python27Packages.uproot: 3.11.2 -> 3.11.3 → https://git.io/JvaLM
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<LinuxHackerman> evils: CRTified: you can also prevent the driver from being loaded in the first place in order to pass through the VM
<LinuxHackerman> as long as you're fine with only accessing the host via SSH or similar
<CRTified> Ah, of course - in that case, the setup is similar to passing a second GPU
<evils> LinuxHackerman: that's kinda my intended application, thanks
<evils> i do seem to recall there being an issue with the motherboard requiring a video output in order to boot, can't recall how that actually interfered with things
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<CRTified> The mainboard/bios/uefi section of the boot process might need one, but that is given if you have a GPU available. It will be attached to vfio-pci only when the kernel is loaded, so that's the first moment where problems _might_ start
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 opened pull request #81610 → nixos/zfs: continue trimming also if one pool fails → https://git.io/Jvatc
<evils> so how does one stop the driver from being loaded (just not setting videoDrivers seems like something that could get "fixed")
<CRTified> evils, it should be sufficient to add them to boot.blacklistedKernelModules, and add vfio-pci.ids=$PCI_IDs to boot.kernelParams
<CRTified> (of course, you also need vfio_pci in boot.kernelModules)
<CRTified> And if you want to prevent the kernel from touching it at all, you might also need video=efifb:off in boot.kernelParams. I had to add it because elsewise the GPU is in a state where the windows driver does not want to initialize it (but that might be nvidia-related)
<LinuxHackerman> you don't even need to specify the IDs for vfio as long as you load the module iirc, qemu will automatically bind the driver to the device
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<wedens[m]> depends on the device. some additional massaging might be required to dynamically change driver
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<wedens[m]> e.g. amd gpu
<wedens[m]> also you shouldn't really need to blacklist anything
<CRTified> wedens[m], but it looks like evils does not want to switch the driver at all, so that should not require any driver change
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #81497 → terraform-providers.libvirt: 0.5.1 -> 0.6.1 → https://git.io/Jv2E4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jvatu
<wedens[m]> yeah, if you want to bind to vfio-pci on boot, vfio-pci.ids is the simplest way
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<evils> sounds like i'm going to have to read up on VM setup... CRTified++ LinuxHackerman++ wedens[m]++
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<wedens[m]> and sometimes `softdep amdgpu pre: vfio-pci` or `nvidia` instead of `amdgpu`,in modprobe config may be needed for driver priority
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<wedens[m]> there is VFIO discord, if you're interested https://discord.gg/bHfJTA
<evils> i'm not interested in making an account to read stuff...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81611 → R: 3.6.2 -> 3.6.3 → https://git.io/Jvatw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa merged pull request #81604 → octopus: 9.1 -> 9.2 → https://git.io/JvakL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvatD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash opened pull request #81612 → ruby-modules: eliminate BUNDLE_PATH → https://git.io/Jvatb
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<gchristensen> anyone else having major problems with github atm?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #81613 → libfido2: change dependency from libressl to openssl → https://git.io/JvaqO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #81614 → libfido2: change dependency from libressl to openssl → https://git.io/Jvaqn
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<aranea> gchristensen: Well, a user in #wireguard just mentioned that their ISP (Charter) has a routing loop for some gh ips right now.
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<wedens[m]> according to https://www.githubstatus.com/ there are no problems
<arianvp[m]> I'm having issues with codeload.github.com
<arianvp[m]> Already for 3 days
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<arianvp[m]> Half of my nix builds fail on first try
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<wedens[m]> this url redirects me to https://github.com/
<arianvp[m]> (it's an URL that nix uses internally I think to fetch source tarballs)
<gchristensen> arianvp[m]: nice
<gchristensen> oops, aranea
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<kenran> This is a very simple to answer question most likely, but I have tried to google different things and just couldn't find the "solution": I have a nix expression `release.nix` that I want to call like `nix-build release.nix`. Inside, there's `{ pkgsPath ? <nixpkgs> }:`, and now I wish to pass the pkgsPath argument instead of using the default value. How do I do this?
<Taneb> I think that's "nix-build release.nix --argstr pkgsPath /path/to/nixpkgs"
<kenran> oh wait, is it --arg? How did I miss this? ...
<kenran> Taneb: thanks, one of those should work fine! I must have overlooked it twice when searching the manpage
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres opened pull request #81615 → Update mednafen and mednaffe → https://git.io/JvaqD
<Taneb> It happens :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm closed pull request #81517 → marvin: 20.4.0 -> 20.5.0 → https://git.io/Jv2Vh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #81616 → gom: 0.3.3 → 0.4 → https://git.io/Jvam0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to master « oh-my-zsh: 2020-03-02 -> 2020-03-03 »: https://git.io/Jvamo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81603 → pastel: 0.7.0 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JvaTj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvamS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81592 → kepubify: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 → https://git.io/JvaeJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvamQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81617 → python27Packages.spotipy: 2.7.1 -> 2.9.0 → https://git.io/Jvamb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81596 → python27Packages.ipdb: 0.12.3 -> 0.13.0 → https://git.io/JvavJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81582 → dragonfly-reverb: 2.0.0 -> 3.0.0 → https://git.io/Jv2pF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaYf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @CohenCyril opened pull request #81618 → elpi: 1.7.0 -> 1.10.2; coq-elpi: 1.1 -> 1.3 → https://git.io/JvaYk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @roberth merged pull request #81292 → nixos/service-runner.nix: Allow quotes in commands + test → https://git.io/JvzAE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @roberth pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaY8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #81313 → blender: fix enableNumpy option → https://git.io/JvgUG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaY4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #81619 → libdmapsharing: init at 3.9.7 → https://git.io/JvaYE
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<evanjs> gchristensen: intermittent problems with GitHub for the last few days for me. Though doesn’t look like the status page showed anything for this morning 🤔
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #81618 → elpi: 1.7.0 -> 1.10.2; coq-elpi: 1.1 -> 1.3 → https://git.io/JvaYk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @CohenCyril to master « elpi: 1.7.0 -> 1.10.2; coq-elpi: 1.1 -> 1.3 »: https://git.io/JvaYb
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<gchristensen> evanjs: in this case it was a routing loop
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81620 → python27Packages.tomlkit: 0.5.8 -> 0.5.11 → https://git.io/JvaYp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #81621 → pythonPackages.scrapy: 1.8.0 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/JvaOf
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<karantan> what is the best practice to add env. variables to nix-shell?
<gchristensen> in your shell.nix, just add them :) every attribute in the mkDerivation call is made in to an env var
<karantan> ok. does it make sense to read those vars from a dot file?
<karantan> so that it doesn't get into git repo
<gchristensen> sounds like you should describe more about what you're doing :)
<karantan> I want to have e.g. .environment file where I have `export FOO=bar` env vars
<karantan> and I want to use them in nix-shell
<etu> karantan: sounds like direnv
<woffs> direnv
<karantan> aha right. I already use direnv so this should be easy.
<karantan> tanx
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<gchristensen> I forget, is there a way to see why a path is "alive"?
<gchristensen> your derivation could also use shellHook = "source ./your-file"
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<gchristensen> yes: nix-store --query --roots /nix/store/xxxxx
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<karantan> @etu ok so I can add export FOO=bar to .envrc file. But what if I don't want to add this information to git repository? I already have .envrc in my tig repo. I have `use nix` in this file.
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<etu> karantan: direnv is bash, you can read from files there
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #81160 → ocamlPackages.owl: 0.7.2 -> 0.8.0 → https://git.io/JvzTk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaO9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mrVanDalo opened pull request #81623 → nextcloud: home parameter breaks nextcloud → https://git.io/JvaOh
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<jared-w> Yeah, just `source ./my_sekrets.sh` and then gitignore the secrets. Should work, I think. Might have to set some export option?
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<evanjs> Not entirely sure if this is the same/right, but has anybody else seen rngd stalling shutdown like mentioned here? https://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/163540/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81624 → radarr: 0.2.0.1450 -> 0.2.0.1480 → https://git.io/Jva3u
<evils> i've seen that, on my laptop and a recent live image
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<evils> been a while since i shut down my desktop xD
<gchristensen> evanjs: definitely
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm opened pull request #81625 → gerrit: 3.1.2 -> 3.1.3 → https://git.io/Jva3K
* evils eye twitches seeing the spacers in firefox
<gchristensen> evils: spacers?
<evanjs> gchristensen: haha what did you---Ohhhh. Works fine on chromium here
<evils> "flexible space" left and right of the address bar
<gchristensen> ah
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #81601 → gsasl: export LOCALDOMAIN before running tests → https://git.io/JvaTX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jva3M
<evanjs> Sorta surprising given the host :D
<gchristensen> evanjs: me too!
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<gchristensen> anyway, I'm not going to click through since I don't want to enable old TLS
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<evils> did you explicitly disable those versions of TLS? the link works for me on firefox 73, but with a warning icon on the padlock
<evanjs> But basically, I'll try to shutdown, and my system seems to hand waiting for rngd :D
<thefloweringash> evanjs: sounds a bit like #80920
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/80920 (by worldofpeace, 1 week ago, merged): nixos/rngd: fix clean shutdown
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning pushed 78 commits to gnome-3.36: https://git.io/Jva39
<evanjs> thefloweringash: thank youuuu
<evanjs> knew I should've checked our issues, first
<evanjs> And more specifically, seems to match #80871
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/80871 (by dayflip, 1 week ago, closed): Long startup and shutdown on 20.03 BETA
<evanjs> Oh, so that's why my startups have been so slow XD
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<arianvp> hmmmm
<arianvp> im trying to build an ARM sd image
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning opened pull request #81626 → Gnome 3.36 → https://git.io/JvasT
<arianvp> but the resulting sd image isn't recognised as a dis kwith partitions if I mount it as loopback for inspection
<arianvp> :/
<arianvp> I noticed we blank the first few sectors, but linux should handle that no?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81627 → rednotebook: 2.16 -> 2.18 → https://git.io/JvasB
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<atemu12[m]> <arianvp "but the resulting sd image isn't"> arianvp: What does `file` say?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81630 → snd: 20.0 -> 20.1 → https://git.io/JvasM
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<gchristensen> What CPU architecture do you wish #NixOS had binaries for? -> https://twitter.com/grhmc/status/1234874979830968320
<thefloweringash> I think I’m a little biased on that topic ;-)
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<srk> arm/aarch, riscv ^^
<gchristensen> srk: we have aarch64 already, something different? riscv would be cool :)
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<srk> armv6/armv7 for small channels would be nice
<srk> for rpi & tons of other SBCs
<gchristensen> luckily the newer RPis are all aarch64, though not the zero
<srk> yeah
<makefu> RISC-V seems to be all the hype these days
<srk> not a lot of boards tho :)
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<atemu12[m]> <gchristensen "luckily the newer RPis are all a"> Yeah but I think most of us still have older raspis lying around that they'd like to have assimilated ;)
<gchristensen> are those armv7l?
<srk> I have like 10 of them :D
<srk> v6 as well
<srk> pi1
<gchristensen> v6, woof
<atemu12[m]> I think the Pi 1 is v6 actually
<atemu12[m]> yeah
<CRTified> atemu12[m]: I would love to revive my Pi1 :-)
<gchristensen> it is hard enough getting a system to buildfor armv7l
<srk> without toolchain it is
<srk> if you need to bootstrap yourself it's very painful as the machines are often not powerful enough
<manveru> i still have raspian on my pi1 because i couldn't get a build of nixos back then...
<makefu> CRTified: i have built a working image for the Pi1 once and nover updated since
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<makefu> never*
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning pushed to gnome-3.36 « squash! gnome3.gnome-terminal: 3.34.2 -> 3.35.92 »: https://git.io/JvaGz
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<thefloweringash> I found an old armv5te around (“sheevaplug”) and thought it’d be funny to put nixos on it, and it works! Cross compilation is pretty close to being a reasonable option
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<gchristensen> wow nice
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<Uniaika> Hi, I had a "stack smashing" issue the other day. The issue was fixed by unsetting LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Everything works perfectly now :)
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<simpson> Exciting. I think that we should do more cross-compiling to ARM; I know it's not aesthetically popular, but it gives us access to that older hardware.
<atemu12[m]> <thefloweringash "I found an old armv5te around (“"> Yeah I was able to bootstrap my Pi 2 by cross-compiling too, there's an arm Nixpkgs fork from around a year ago that worked for me
<atemu12[m]> I then let it realise a 19.09 system for a week or two and I think it actually built one
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<simpson> I need to do more of this. Once I'm finished with my x86 hardware, I have so many boxes of ARM hardware.
<atemu12[m]> I couldn't get go to realise though and that's when I gave up
<thefloweringash> I think go works now. There were two bugs getting in the way when I was looking. One was fixed upstream and the other was a flakey test I disable.
<atemu12[m]> Yeah, it was a test that failed IIRC
<thefloweringash> While we’re all excited, shameless plug: #76812
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/76812 (by thefloweringash, 8 weeks ago, open): openssl: fix platform detection on armv5tel-linux
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir opened pull request #81633 → Tensorflow: fix #77626 → https://git.io/JvaGD
<atemu12[m]> Back then I didn't even know that you could just `doCheck = false`, I should probably try again
<simpson> thefloweringash: If it works for you. I don't think I have anything that old that I can readily test with.
<thefloweringash> I think the 32-bit arm bootstrap tools aren’t currently sufficient to natively build anything on unstable right now (#79793)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/79793 (by lopsided98, 3 weeks ago, open): stdenv: update ARM bootstrap tarballs
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<atemu12[m]> I let it realise both 19.09 and unstable a month or so ago since it was just sitting around doing nothing but both failed to realise their kernel unfortunately, something about the logitech_hid module IIRC. Has anyone experienced something like that before?
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<thefloweringash> That’s odd. I have a hydra building those for armv7 and the kernel is building ok: https://hydra.barbara.cons.org.nz/job/thefloweringash-armv7/nixos-19.09/linux_latest (ipv6 only)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning pushed to gnome-3.36 « squash! gnome3.gnome-system-monitor: 3.32.1 -> 3.35.92 »: https://git.io/JvaGA
<srk> thefloweringash: why is it odd? :)
<srk> ah, I see now
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<atemu12[m]> <thefloweringash "That’s odd. I have a hydra build"> That's odd...
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<atemu12[m]> Btw, do you host a public cache?
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<thefloweringash> Yeah, it pushes to https://thefloweringash-armv7.cachix.org
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<atemu12[m]> Oh neat
<atemu12[m]> I've never seriously used Cachix or any other cache than the official NixOS one, how can I add it as a substituter?
<thefloweringash> I don’t know if there’s an official cachix way, but you can configure it like a regular nix cache: https://bitbucket.org/thefloweringash/alex-config/src/master/thefloweringash-armv7.cachix.org.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81635 → rspamd: 2.3 -> 2.4 → https://git.io/JvaZA
<atemu12[m]> Thanks!
<cole-h> thefloweringash: If you have the `cachix` binary, you just need `cachix use <cache>`
<cole-h> FYI
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<thefloweringash> cole-h: oh neat, I should try this
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<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 pushed to master « Update README.wiki »: https://git.io/JvanQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to master « tdlib: enable on darwin »: https://git.io/JvacI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to release-20.03 « tdlib: enable on darwin »: https://git.io/Jvact
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #80940 → python3Packages.ipykernel: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JvEqs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to release-20.03 « python3Packages.ipykernel: fix build on darwin »: https://git.io/JvacW
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<GrimSleepless> Hi guys! It has been almost a week since I have opened my PR of brave to 19.09 and to 20.04. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/81078
<{^_^}> #81078 (by JeffLabonte, 6 days ago, open): Release/19.09 - Update Brave 0.69.128 -> 1.4.95
<{^_^}> #81082 (by JeffLabonte, 6 days ago, open): nixos: Update brave from 1.3.118 to 1.4.95
<GrimSleepless> May someone have a look to them!
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<GrimSleepless> That would be greatly appreciated!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81639 → tixati: 2.67 -> 2.68 → https://git.io/JvacH
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c70840206ac (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Gerschtli opened pull request #81640 → teamspeak_server: 3.10.2 -> 3.11.0 → https://git.io/Jvacb
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<worldofpeace> GrimSleepless: the commit header in the backport PR is different from the commit on master https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/fa166b77d19ec78d4cd01b9696a47f1118ff74f4
<worldofpeace> (the backport PR) nixos: Update brave from 1.3.118 to 1.4.95 (on master) brave: 1.3.118 -> 1.4.95
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<worldofpeace> the latter commit message is correct per the contribution guidelines (pkgname: old_verison -> new_version)
<romildo> In nix how can a sequence of two single quotes be written in a string literal delimited by double single quotes? That is, I want '' inside a literal string like ''a_string_literal''
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<worldofpeace> GrimSleepless: it seems in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/81078/, it has that some problem. But the correct commit header is just a line below it
<adisbladis> > ''eh ${''lo''}''
<{^_^}> "eh lo"
<adisbladis> romildo: ^
<cinimod_> Can anyone tell me why I am still in jail (despite setting `jailbreak = true;`)? https://gist.github.com/idontgetoutmuch/2142452009435f931cc7ac3a6a930f4f
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<aranea> How can I print the value of a config option? I'm aware of nixos-option, but that also prints a bunch of extra info I don't need, so its output isn't really useful for scripting.
<romildo> adisbladis, I need a string containing the quotes among its characters. Something like the following after evaluation: "good''boy", which has 9 characters.
<gustavderdrache> > "foo\"bar"
<{^_^}> "foo\"bar"
<aranea> I've tried various incantations, in particular with nix-instantiate --eval, but I can't seem to get it right.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @LnL7 merged pull request #81443 → iterm2: 3.0.14 -> 3.3.9 & fix build → https://git.io/Jv2f8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @LnL7 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaCc
<romildo> gustavderdrache, i need _two_ single quotes, not _one_ double quote.
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<gustavderdrache> oh!
<gustavderdrache> darn my stupid proportional font
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<gustavderdrache> > ''${"''"}''
<{^_^}> "''"
<gustavderdrache> i know there's an escape for it but i can't for the life of me remember how to ask {^_^} about it
<GrimSleepless> worldofpeace: it shouldn't could you add the comment to the PR. I will fix it later today! :) That would be great!
<GrimSleepless> worldofpeace: Not to forget it is my first backport! :D
<romildo> gustavderdrache, thanks
<gustavderdrache> ,quote''
<gustavderdrache> ... no?
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<gustavderdrache> ,quote'
<gustavderdrache> well i tried
<aswanson> is there a good way to look at the source of a nixos module from nixos? I've just been heading to github whenever I need to do some troubleshooting...
<worldofpeace> GrimSleepless: I did this 👍️
<cinimod_> I have tried `splitmix = self.haskell.lib.doJailbreak (hsuper.callHackage "splitmix" "0.0.3" {});` and also `jailbreak = true;` but I still get `Setup: Encountered missing dependencies: random >=1.0 && <1.2` :(
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<aranea> aswanson: Well, you should have a copy of the entire nixpkgs tree your system is currently using at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/ .
<aswanson> aranea: sure, is there an easy way to query against that somehow? I know that you can do `nix edit nixpkgs.hello` if you want to see the default.nix of a package, is there a something similar for a module?
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<betaboon> anyone familiar with the nixos-installer-tests ?
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<GrimSleepless> worldofpeace: Thank you! :+1
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<infinisil> ,escape'' gustavderdrache
<{^_^}> gustavderdrache: '' two single quotes: ''' bash curly bois: ''${} newline: ''\n tab: ''\t any character x: ''\x ''
<gustavderdrache> d'oh
<gustavderdrache> infinisil++ for being the keeper of knowledge :)
<{^_^}> infinisil's karma got increased to 220
<infinisil> :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81641 → teamviewer: 15.2.2756 -> 15.3.2682 → https://git.io/JvaWe
<gustavderdrache> nice round numbers
<infinisil> Also, all commands can be found here: https://nixbot.infinisil.com/global/commands/commands/
<infinisil> (could be nicer, but better than nothing!)
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<aranea> Ah, I got it in the meantime.
<hyperfekt> since --max-atime is dead, how does the buildfarm gc its store? / cc grahamc[m]
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81642 → stress-ng: 0.10.19 -> 0.11.01 → https://git.io/JvaWG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #81643 → monosat: fix patch sha → https://git.io/JvaWc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #81538 → [staging] python: add pythonRemoveTestsDirHook → https://git.io/Jv21L
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @jonringer to staging « python: add pythonRemoveTestsDirHook »: https://git.io/JvaWC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #81573 → python37Packages.asdf: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.2 → https://git.io/Jv2A4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #81638 → python3Packages.monosat: Fix builds broken by #81562 → https://git.io/JvacB
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer closed pull request #81643 → monosat: fix patch sha → https://git.io/JvaWc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #81620 → python27Packages.tomlkit: 0.5.8 -> 0.5.11 → https://git.io/JvaYp
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<brano543> Hello, does anyone have experience with using the systemd from nixpkgs? I am having using it as everytime I try to start my service I get error "Unit sysinit.target not found.". The default systemd packaged with my distribution works with the service.
<atemu12[m]> <aswanson "aranea: sure, is there an easy w"> You can see where an individual option is declared with `nixos-option` and there was a way to get the exact line number with `nix repl` somehow but I don't remember how unfortunately
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<iceypoi> good evening
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir opened pull request #81645 → fix folks package → https://git.io/JvaWN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning merged pull request #81309 → gnomeExtensions.appindicator: 30 -> 32 → https://git.io/JvgfB
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<lovesegfault> If I nix-shell on a box how can I copy-closure the deps of that shell to another box?
<lovesegfault> with nix-build it's easy because you get ./result
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81646 → tribler: 7.4.1 -> 7.4.4 → https://git.io/JvaWj
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<disasm> CRTified: goklp :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @acairncross opened pull request #81647 → [20.03] python3Packages.monosat: Fix Python 3.8 build → https://git.io/JvalI
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<fresheyeball> can I compose together shells?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81648 → sqlite: 3.31.0 -> 3.31.1 → https://git.io/JvalE
<mdash> fresheyeball: probably you'd compose together the args to mkShell
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<nwops> I am trying to follow the article here https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Packaging/Ruby for building ruby apps. What do I do once the default.nix, shell.nix and gemset.nix are created. How do I actually distribute my app to others? What files do I give them?
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<zeta_0> i am going to try out node2nix, but i was wondering if their is a link somewhere that has a default.nix/shell.nix example for using node with nix-shell?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #81327 → nixos/cage: init → https://git.io/JvgYa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jvalx
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/899cf4ba292 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.03-small)
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<infinisil> nwops: Rather standard is to distribute the ideally reproducible Nix files (and what they depend on)
<infinisil> And to have a `default.nix` files that can be built with just `nix-build`
<zeta_0> i found some good instructions here but i can't seem to find a default.nix example? https://github.com/svanderburg/node2nix
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<zeta_0> maybe node development is done differently with nix(i'm reading the instructions right now)
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<infinisil> nwops: You can also publish a Nix cache with prebuilt derivations, e.g. with https://cachix.org/
<mdash> zeta_0: well, what do you want to do with it
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<CRTified> disasm, ah, thanks :) You are right, it looks unmaintained - but the source is short and looked fine to me, so I guess I'll use it until I have time to write an alternative :)
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<zeta_0> mdash: i'm trying out node2nix for the 1st time to do some development with node(for the 1st time as well). Anyways, in most projects i start off with a default.nix file and place the associated configuration for my language, i just wanted to see a default.nix example, so i can see how most people develop with node in a nix-shell?
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<zeta_0> mdash: i'm reading the instructions for node2nix right now, so hopefully the instructions clarify this
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy merged pull request #81556 → gitlab: 12.7.6 -> 12.8.1 → https://git.io/Jv2Qy
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<zeta_0> 'oh, node2nix generates a default.nix file as well as some other nix files, nice
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81649 → xmrig: 5.5.3 -> 5.7.0 → https://git.io/Jva8K
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<woob75> How would I go about installing wine 3 in nixos?
<risson> You could pin Nixpkgs to the commit that had wine 3
<risson> Let me find some links for you on how to do that
<woob75> Cool thanks
<risson> Here's how to pin a specific version of Nixpkgs
<nwops> infinisil, how do I publish the pre-built derivations? That would be ideal.
<infinisil> nwops: Cachix as linked above works
<risson> woob75: the last commit in nixpkgs that has wine 3 (3.0.4) is this one:
<woob75> risson, thanks, How'd you find that so quickly?
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<risson> I looked for the wine package here : https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html?channel=nixos-19.09&query=wine and then clicked on the "Nix expression" link and went through the history of the file on github
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<woob75> Ahh sweet, i'll take note for next time
<risson> The commit names are pretty explicit so I could easily find the commit that upgraded the packge
<risson> I actually didn't link to you the last commit of nixpkgs before wine 4, but the first that held wine 3.0.4
<risson> My bad
<woob75> Got a class in 12mins, all my stats assigments are in office 2016 that apparent dont work in wine 4
<risson> 12min is plenty of time isn't it XD
<woob75> just enough time to pack up haha.
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<risson> The last commit with wine 3.0.4 (and without upgrades of wine-mono prior to upgrading to wine 4) is this one
<risson> Anyway, I actually came here with a questiom
<woob75> Cool, i'll look through this late, thanks for the help
<risson> Why isn't the Nix store organized like git objects?
<risson> For example, why isn't `0csrwyl[...]-source.drv` located at `/nix/store/0/0c/0csrwyl[]-source.drv`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #81616 → gom: 0.3.3 → 0.4 → https://git.io/Jvam0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/Jva4Z
<nwops> infinisil, ok about to push to cachix do I need the -E portion (nix-build -E '((import <nixpkgs> {}).callPackage (import ./default.nix) { })' --keep-failed) or can I just use nix-build | cachix push <namespace>
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar closed pull request #81645 → fix folks package → https://git.io/JvaWN
<infinisil> nwops: As mentioned, I suggest you to make a default.nix that can be built with just `nix-build`
<infinisil> That means putting such a callPackage expression into it
<energizer`> risson: git doesn't repeat the prefix from the parent dir
<risson> Then without repeating the prefix
<risson> like this: `/nix/store/0/0c/srwyl[]-source.drv`
<infinisil> nwops: And to make it reproducible:
<infinisil> ,pinning nwops
<infinisil> Instead of using `import <nixpkgs>`
<energizer`> ,pinning energizer`
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<energizer`> i didnt get a message, was i supposed to?
<energizer`> oh it's probably because i ignored the bot
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Frostman opened pull request #81650 → hugo: 0.65.3 -> 0.66.0 → https://git.io/Jva48
<risson> Anyone that may have an answer to my question?
<mica[m]> risson: because git is not the right solution for organizing the store
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<risson> Yes, of course, I'm only comparing to the layout used by git, I didn't say the backend of the store should be git
<energizer`> risson: what problem would be solved by organizing it that way?
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<mica[m]> Since every package in the store has a unique name, why would it need folder hierarchy?
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<risson> Having a large number of files in the same folder makes some filesystems quite slow
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #81217 → pythonPackages.digital-ocean: 1.13.2 -> 1.15.0 → https://git.io/Jvzos
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jva4r
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<energizer`> looks like dir_index is a feature that speeds that up in ext3
<energizer`> idk if newer filesystems have that issue
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<risson> seems the feature is also available in ext4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy closed pull request #81506 → gitaly: fix build → https://git.io/Jv226
<energizer`> how do i avoid this? https://bpaste.net/2QPA
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<nwops> I guess my question was why this import statement is even needed. Seems silly to import default.nix inside the default.nix file.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat closed pull request #81531 → gsasl: don't check on linux either → https://git.io/Jv26q
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #81652 → lightdm: fix root autologin → https://git.io/Jva4x
<infinisil> nwops: Well of course you wouldn't import it again, but rather "wrap" the existing thing, replacing `import ./default.nix` with it
<infinisil> nwops: Or alternatively move the whole default.nix to a different file and use `import ./other-file.nix` in default.nix instead
<infinisil> `import <path>` is the same as the contents of the file at that path
<nwops> I must be doing something wrong then. Is this a standard practice?
<infinisil> Using callPackage with another file? Yeah that's rather standard
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<infinisil> The instructions you read just don't mention it
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<infinisil> (as in, they only mention using callPackage with -E on the command line, but that's not really good practise)
<infinisil> Although I personally wrote this thing, which I should probably change:
<infinisil> ,callPackage
<{^_^}> If a Nix file foo.nix starts with something like `{ stdenv, cmake }:`, you can build it with `nix-build -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).callPackage ./foo.nix {}'`
<nwops> Ha! well the questions I have are gaps that need to be filled in. Good article otherwise.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to master « netpbm: fix wrappers »: https://git.io/JvaBs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81653 → wpgtk: 6.0.12 -> 6.0.13 → https://git.io/JvaBn
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<dashkal> I'm playing around with HIE. Following the nix instructions at https://github.com/Infinisil/all-hies, adapted for home-manager, and I get a very unexpected error: tar: Unknown option 'strip-components' (see "tar --help"). Any suggestions on where to look?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy opened pull request #81654 → [20.03] gitlab: 12.7.6 -> 12.8.1 → https://git.io/JvaBu
<selfsymmetric-pa> I'm barely getting 20KBps down from nixos.cache. Is that normal?
<infinisil> dashkal: Full logs?
<infinisil> And what did you run that produces this?
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<dashkal> home-manager switch
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<infinisil> dashkal: Also what's the output of `nix-info`?
<dashkal> nix-info: system: "x86_64-linux", multi-user?: yes, version: nix-env (Nix) 2.3.3, channels(root): "nixos-20.09pre215333.42f0be81ae0", channels(bshelden): "home-manager, nixpkgs-20.09pre215033.ddc2f887f5f", nixpkgs: /home/bshelden/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs
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<infinisil> dashkal: Full logs?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @clkamp opened pull request #81655 → licensor: Fix test in 2020 from upstream → https://git.io/JvaBw
<dashkal> infinisil: My old pastebin vanished, moment while I futz with another.
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<selfsymmetric-pa> Here are my cloudfront diagnostics: http://ix.io/2djw
<selfsymmetric-pa> https://cache.nixos.org/ says that cache.nixos is up, but does not give an information about potential degraded performance, or details of expected normal performance.
<infinisil> dashkal: I guess you're not on NixOS right?
<dashkal> I am on nixos.
<infinisil> Huh
<dashkal> tracking nixos-unstable
<infinisil> Oh
<infinisil> dashkal: What's the output of `tar --version`
<infinisil> I think Nix might use the `tar` from your PATH for doing its thing
<dashkal> toybox 0.8.2
<infinisil> Yeah so that's the reason
<selfsymmetric-pa> At this rate my build will take many hours just to pull the packages.
<infinisil> I'm not sure why Nix isn't wrapped with gnutar though
<infinisil> Because then this wouldn't be happening
<selfsymmetric-pa> Back of the envelope suggests about 20 hours to build, at the current rate.
<dashkal> Yeah, that's what confused me. Nothing in that snippet cared about where tar came from. I was expecting nix to manage its own tar.
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<niksnut> the tar dependency is gone in 2.4 btw
<infinisil> Ah nice
<infinisil> I guess the best way to fix this for now is with an overlay that wraps nix with tar
<dashkal> I can't even get gnutar into my main profile, since it conflicts with toybox.
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<infinisil> dashkal: Adding this to your configuration.nix and rebuilding should fix it: https://paste.infinisil.com/bjaaWjmfFk.nix
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<lovesegfault> So, I'll ask again, how can I nix-copy-closure the deps of a nix-shell to another machine?
<lovesegfault> If I do nix-instantiate it spits out a path to a drv, and if I nix copy that nothing happens
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<infinisil> dashkal: make sure to comment out the fetchTarball thing temporarily until the first rebuild is done
<dashkal> I'm trying to add HIE via home-manager, so my understanding is that'll be invisible when messing with the os level config?
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<infinisil> dashkal: Ohh yes forgot about that
<infinisil> So no need to comment anything out, just add that to configuration.nix, then nixos-rebuild switch, then home-manager switch
<dashkal> Getting an error, sec, checking for pebkak first
<dashkal> error: attribute 'man' missing, at /nix/store/0398hrhgrgjxpbgwczn1jn82mk13j0ix-nixos-20.09pre215333.42f0be81ae0/nixos/pkgs/build-support/buildenv/default.nix:65:30
<dashkal> from nixos-rebuild switch
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<infinisil> dashkal: Ah yeah hold on
<infinisil> I should've checked this myself first too
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<infinisil> Well damn that's trickier than I anticipated
<dashkal> Horray! I seem to have a habit of finding esoteric edge cases :P
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81657 → wesnoth: 1.14.10 -> 1.14.11 → https://git.io/JvaRZ
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<infinisil> dashkal: Ah I found a simple workaround, though it's a bit hacky: https://paste.infinisil.com/GPqAW99zo4.nix
<infinisil> Well the hack isn't very obvious, and it shouldn't be a problem unless you need to do further overrides to the nix derivation
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<dashkal> Can you help me understand why that's considered a hack? My limited understanding of overlays and // suggests that's an entirely reasonable way to define an overlay to me.
<infinisil> dashkal: The problems stems from the fact that nix has multiple outputs, one of which is `nix.man`. By just assigning `nix = symlinkJoin { ... }` you only create a single-output derivation, the default output being `nix.out` or `nix` directly
<dashkal> And... no change :P Though I suppose I could just install hie via configuration.nix now.
<dashkal> My configuration nix has got out of hand. Time to modularize
<infinisil> By doing `nix = super.nix // symlinkJoin { ... }` all the `man`, and other outputs are preserved, only the default output (which is the attrset itself) is overridden
<dashkal> Ok, so I did understand what was happening technically. What I don't follow is where that'll cause trouble.
<infinisil> dashkal: What's the exact error with the updated overlay?
<dashkal> Exactly the same error
<infinisil> I can build a (minimal) nixos system with that without problems
<dashkal> tar: Unknown option 'strip-components' (see "tar --help")
<infinisil> Oh I thought you meant the `man` error
<infinisil> Did you rebuild with the overlay applied to your configuration.nix now?
<dashkal> I made the updated edit to my /etc/nixos/configuration.nix. rebuilt with nixos-rebuild switch. Then ran home-manager switch. Got the tar error again.
<dashkal> So I suspect the issue is home-manager is doing a bad, not nix itself.
<infinisil> Oh, you might have to restart the nix daemon
<dashkal> ahh
<infinisil> Although that should happen automatically
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<infinisil> Oh wait
<infinisil> My mistake
<dashkal> sudo systemctl restart nix-daemon.service did not fix it.
<infinisil> dashkal: The overlay was wrong, updated again: https://paste.infinisil.com/U1AobIjyTw.nix
<infinisil> (I added `${self.gnutar}/bin/tar` to PATH, when it should be just `${self.gnutar}/bin`)
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<infinisil> I should be using makeBinPath anyways..
<dashkal> Success! Or at least progress.
<dashkal> I didn't do the binary cache bit so this may take awhile.
<infinisil> I suggest doing that first then :)
<dashkal> I have no real aversion to building from source. The only thing that drove me away from gentoo is the fact that it just didn't work.
<dashkal> Kept getting into impossible "emerge world fails" situations.
<infinisil> Ah well then
<infinisil> The chance of the build working now is pretty much 100% :)
<mehlon> ah. gentoo. I was supposed to get to that right after installing arch
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<mehlon> ehh.. didnt feel like it
<dashkal> I moved to arch from gentoo. I liked what gentoo was, but failing to build after messing with use flags a couple-three times was a bit much.
<dashkal> arch... I don't mesh well with the culture.
<dashkal> nixos has been solid.
<mehlon> I used Manjaro for a while, then Void Linux for a tiny bit (musl based? count me in) but now after using NixOS, I can't go back
<dashkal> Problems are mostly of my own doing. I can handle that.
<drakonis> janitoring isn't fun
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #81658 → gitAndTools.gh: 0.5.7 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JvaRr
<drakonis> this is the takeaway from arch and gentoo
<mehlon> I mean, being able to set up anbox and virtualbox and binfmt by adding a single line to a configuration file?
<mehlon> you can't beat that
<dashkal> Heh, I'm still doing the learning so I know those incantations.
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<dashkal> I've followed a recipe once to get virtualbox running. But I don't yet understand it.
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<dashkal> Utterly failed to get the container style nixops working last attempt. Will try again when I'm more literate.
<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaRK
<infinisil> lovesegfault: It's not easily possible (though I'd like to do a PR to nixpkgs to allow for that), but you can hack around it with something like this (adjusted, originally from gchristensen): https://paste.infinisil.com/sY8_0nQd70.nix
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<infinisil> That creates a derivation from a shell.nix that you can `nix-build`, resulting in something that has as runtime dependencies all dependencies of the shell
<infinisil> You can `nix-copy-closure` this too then
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<dashkal> In case you're off doing something else by the time this finishes, thank you, infinisil.
<infinisil> Np :D
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<xa0[m]> hey, "tests" are that trick the nginx module does to fail to build if the config is invalid, right?
<andi-> Not really, tests are most likely VM tests that are executed on hydra.
<andi-> But the kind you mentioned are also common (these days).
<xa0[m]> damn. what is that nginx sorcery then? i'd like to apply it to haproxy
<andi-> xa0[m]: it is "simple" it is a script that just runs nginx check on some input file and then produces the input as output
<andi-> if that check script fails there is no config so the build of the system config fails.
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<infinisil> It's just a function that takes a string (the nginx config) and produces a derivation that contains that string as its result, but while checking to make sure it's correct first
<infinisil> This function is then called by the nginx module to manifest its config file
<xa0[m]> gotcha. i think i get the idea. i'll see if i can apply that
<xa0[m]> thanks both :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81659 → virglrenderer: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.2 → https://git.io/JvaRh
<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos-website] @samueldr pushed to master « Fix weird hanging sentence in February round-up. »: https://git.io/Jva0f
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<lovesegfault> andi-: Who maintains NixOS's kernel pkgs?
<lovesegfault> I want to add the nouveau patches in
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<samueldr> lovesegfault: Nequissimus on github has been handling all the updates for a while
<samueldr> though for adding patches and stuff, I don't know that we have one contact point
<andi-> lovesegfault: what makes these patches desireable? Are they upstreamed already?
<lovesegfault> They are not upstreamed
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<lovesegfault> Without them any GPU in the pascal line does not work on a laptop
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<lovesegfault> Like _at all_
<lovesegfault> With them they mostly _just work_
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<lovesegfault> There's a small caveat where gdm is too slow to boot and that florbs shit up
<lovesegfault> but if you're not using gdm then you're golden!
<andi-> The FOSS guy in me: well thats NVIDIA's problem ;) How about you submit them upstream and if/until they merge it we could carry them if they are of good enough quality?
<lovesegfault> Sure, they come from karolherbst over in #nouveau fwiw
<samueldr> well, that's nouveau's problem, I assume nvidia drivers works fine when not using nouveau
<lovesegfault> "fine"
<colemickens> depending on what your definition of "fine" is
<andi-> yeah, he has been doing most of the noveau stuff... I guess they'll be upstreamed then? :)
<samueldr> though, with that said, I don't think this should be in nixpkgs
<lovesegfault> andi-: one of them yes
<andi-> what is holding back the other one?
<lovesegfault> the other he doesn't know because it's a PCIe bug (apparently) and upstream doesn't want to merge it until they understand it better
<samueldr> or if it is, not as a default applied patch set
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<andi-> Carrying a patch that upstream doesn't want has the risk of always having to maintain it... or to suddenly drop hardware support (which is probably worse then no support at all)
<lovesegfault> there are the patches fwiw
<samueldr> alternatively could be part of nixos-hardware
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* colemickens likes that idea
<lovesegfault> Anyway, with those patches I now have mixed-dpi multi-monitor sway working perfectly over my nvidia & intel gpus
<andi-> nice
<colemickens> lovesegfault btw, would these make my desktop with a 1080 usable? This XPS is nearly useless and I'm thinking of dual-booting my gaming desktop again for a better dev machine... but I am not willing to give up sway
<lovesegfault> I also have proper powering off of the gpu when on battery, etc
<lovesegfault> colemickens: is a 1080 pascal?
<lovesegfault> IIRC it was maxell
<lovesegfault> *maxwel
<lovesegfault> **maxwell?!
<colemickens> idk, a quick Google makes it seem like 1080 was the first Pascal, so maybe I would benefit!
<lovesegfault> You would!
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<colemickens> Cool. Are you interested in pushing that into nixos-hardware?
<colemickens> If not, I can, or I can just copy it into my config and carry it too.
<lovesegfault> Normally I'd say "I ain't doing a lick more work" but I want to get my commit bit so I'll go make a PR in nixos-hardware
* lovesegfault grumbles
<lovesegfault> I don't use nixos-hardware, I just maintain my own thing... I should change that
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<colemickens> lovesegfault mind if I PM, want to ask more questions about this and it feels OT
<colemickens> or I'll just ask you in chat
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<dashkal> Build successful. Sweet. Now to figure out how to test if it worked.
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<xa0[m]> heyo
<xa0[m]> how do i get runCommand able to access /var/lib
<xa0[m]> (i know this is a bad idea but i want to anyway)
<clever> xa0[m]: why do you need to?
<xa0[m]> i don't, but i'd like to for the purposes of this config file checker
<clever> xa0[m]: the config file should be in the nix store
<xa0[m]> because it's way easier than purifying the rest of the stack
<xa0[m]> it is.
<xa0[m]> the stuff in /var/lib is certificate keys
<clever> xa0[m]: ${/var/lib/foo.txt} would read the current value, at the time you ran nix-build
<xa0[m]> can that be done for an entire directory tree, though?
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<clever> xa0[m]: ${/var/lib/foo} will copy the entire dir to the store
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<xa0[m]> that sounds like a bad idea, for keys
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<clever> xa0[m]: thats why its better to do it in a pure manner from nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81660 → vim: 8.2.0227 -> 8.2.0343 → https://git.io/Jva0j
<xa0[m]> hrm.
<xa0[m]> ok, i may have an alternative workaround
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<energizer`> i have a lockfile, but using it means compiling packages that nixpkgs already has. is there an established practice for dealing with this situation? should i override the lockfile with nixpkgs' versions, or suck it up and wait three hours?
<colemickens> lockfile?
<energizer`> specifies pinned versions and hashes, such as Cargo.lock or poetry.lock
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<energizer`> converted to nix with naersk and poetry2nix, respectively
<mdash> energizer`: typically i just build what the lockfile specifies, it's usually not a big deal
<lovesegfault> I'll second mdash
<mdash> obviously if you're trying to minimize disk footprint it might be worth the effort
<lovesegfault> if you really care set up your own binary cache, cc. cachix.org
<ottidmes> I am trying to fix a package of mine but I am getting: cp: cannot create regular file 'dotnet_modules/Microsoft.CSharp.dll': Permission denied, with cp ${dotnet-sdk}/shared/Microsoft.NETCore.App/*/Microsoft.CSharp.dll dotnet_modules, in my postInstall
<ottidmes> This worked in the past, so I am having trouble understanding what goes wrong at the moment
<energizer`> mdash: lovesegfault: ok
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed commit from @worldofpeace to master « pipewire: format »: https://git.io/JvaE2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #81661 → pam_ssh_agent_auth: Honour services.openssh.authorizedKeysFiles → https://git.io/JvaEV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #80583 → du-dust: 0.4.4 -> 0.5.0 → https://git.io/JvBrT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaEo
<lovesegfault> Can I make Nix build everything in a ramdisk?
<lovesegfault> or is that just making /tmp a tmpfs?
<lovesegfault> idk where nix builds stuff
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81658 → gitAndTools.gh: 0.5.7 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JvaRr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvaEX
<ottidmes> Figured out my issue, apparently they added the postInstall hook, which in the past was missing for that particular package, so I ran it twice, causing it to try and copy over a file that was readonly (considering I copied it form the /nix/store).
<lovesegfault> cc. andi-
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #81662 → zsh-syntax-highlighting: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JvaEH
<xa0[m]> nice, got my config checker to work. thanks those who helped
<xa0[m]> this is gonna save me hours of rescue sessions
<andi-> lovesegfault: yeah, just make /tmp a tmpfs and you should be good.
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<andi-> lovesegfault: it also writes to XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (e.g. /run/user/$UID/)
<andi-> but that last one should be on a tmpfs already
<kalbasit> how to recover or catch an error thrown by `lib.strings.toInt "not-an-int"`?
<alienpirate5> I am having the strangest issue trying to cross-compile librsvg to aarch64