<zeta_0>
what does it mean and do i need to set it as an environment variable?
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<chagra>
how can I use Nixos modules to set values of some attributes globally that I can refer to in any nix expression I import from cofiguration.nix?
<clever>
chagra: add your own options to nixos
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<jackdk>
so rev is going to be a commit sha . I don't know how anki likes to do it but I'd just take the one pointed to by latest master
<jackdk>
to update sha you should tofu it
<jackdk>
,tofu
<{^_^}>
To get a sha256 hash of a new source, you can use the Trust On First Use model: use probably-wrong hash (for example: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) then replace it with the correct hash Nix expected. See: tofu-vim
<jackdk>
after updating the rev-manual, change the sha by a couple of digits so it fails, and it will tell you the hash it actually got. You can then copypaste into the nix expr
<jackdk>
though for testing, I prefer running `nix-build . -A pkgname` from the root of the nixpkgs checkout you're working it. that way you don't need to add/remove things from local env all the time, you can just poke around the ./result symlink
<clever>
yep
<scheming_around>
Cool, ty guys
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<{^_^}>
Provide as much info as possible on problems. What specifically doesn't work? What command did you run? What's in the relevant files? What's the error? This makes debugging easier and helps getting faster responses
<evanjs>
Ohhhhh okay that makes sense
<evanjs>
Would define myself but not sure my way is the best way. Always hesitant about adding new stuff 😝
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<epl692>
Having issues with getting nixops to run, it makes the virtual machine, starts configuring it, then dies with an error. Is there something I should be doing differently? https://nixos.org/nixops/manual/#idm140737322662048 <=following this tutorial, copyed and pasted the files exactly
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<NemesisD>
what is the recommended way to handle data dirs for derivations? the program i'm writing a derivation for wants to put a data dir relative to the binary, which i'm not sure is allowed
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<kalbasit>
when specifying `--option trusted-public-keys` on the command line, does it override the configured trusted-public-keys or does it add to it?
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<aveltras>
what would be the correct syntax to get the following to work ? i'd like the first argument to be used just after repl and the remaining ones at the end, the first one never gets interpreted, i don't know if this is a nix specific problem or my misunderstanding of bash
<aranea>
Is it expected that a "nixos-rebuild switch" invocation that updated nix itself will throw the error "error: cannot connect to daemon at '/nix/var/nix/daemon-socket/socket': Connection refused" during the activation phase?
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<inf>
just wondering... is there any official nixos-rebuild wrapper that'd do `nixos-rebuild test`, wait for confirmation via keyboard, and roll back in case user fails to confirm it working (eg. when ssh connection drops out)?
<inf>
I imagine it being pretty trivial (except for properly keeping that rollback flow working even if the session gets killed somehow), just wondering if it's been already done/documented.
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<tilpner>
I don't think you'll find an official wrapper for that
<jco>
I'm a bit clueless on what could be the cause of this error
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<jco>
oh I forgot to upgrade
<evils>
odd, i've got `programs.sway.enable=true;`, but i had to add xwayland to my environment for it to be able to use it
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<m15k>
Hej! Anyone is willing to share his configuration.nix for his/her raspberry pi 3?
<evils>
m15k: try #nixos-aarch64 if you get no response here
<m15k>
ups :)
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<kiwi_1>
hello, this is kiwi1 speaking. Is this where we can ask silly questions to get a grasp of nix?
<symphorien>
Sure go ahead
<kiwi_1>
So I'm trying to learn webdev with the help of django. Meaning python under nix. I have python installed system wide and all is well, now django and other dependencies are where I'm stuck.
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<__monty__>
Have you read the nixpkgs manual section on python development?
<kiwi_1>
There is a recipe for an older lts django in the nixstore, I would like the latest official release. I'm unsure how to tackle this, tried to update the recipe to django 3.0 but I have been unable to successfully drop into a shell with that version pulled in from pypifetch.
<kiwi_1>
I have read through it multiple times but I feel I lack understanding in a major nix concept still, not sure what tho
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<kiwi_1>
I have followed the nixpills as well but not everything is clear yet.
<kiwi_1>
to be more specific, is it possible to create a nixshell with the python version I need then manually get django? Does tha tmean it will stay contained in that shell environement or am I misunderstanding?
<__monty__>
Aiui you'd still need a venv.
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<kiwi_1>
so having a nixshell with python and creating a venv within should give me a "container" of sorts with which I can mess around without effecting the rest of the system?
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<__monty__>
I think you'd only need the nix-shell for system deps.
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<kiwi_1>
I see, let me look into this angle of things, Thanks!
<hyper_ch>
markus1189: are you markuskowa?
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<evils>
seems defining programs.sway.extraPackages removes the defaults (and xwayland with it)
<drozdziak1>
Are "Nix on other distros" questions welcome here? I've added a nixpkgs channel on my Arch system (used archlinux-nix, git version) but all nix commands seem to complain about no nixpkgs in the system
<drozdziak1>
The only trace of my newly added channel seems to be ~/.nix-channels
<drozdziak1>
ar Yes, although I'm unsure the order is wrong. I've just deleted it with `nix-channel --remove nixpkgs` and it accepted the name
<drozdziak1>
And for my nix-channel --add invocation it looked exactly like what you posted
<symphorien>
after add you must nix-channel --update
<symphorien>
otherwise it does not take effect
<drozdziak1>
interesting, it segfaulted on me
<drozdziak1>
(nix-channel --update that is)
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<drozdziak1>
Nix I got from upstream this time, I'll retry with the one packaged by ARch
<sigwinch28>
symphorien: RE my question yesterday about nixpkgs/custom packages: thanks. ended up making my own overlay and using `callPackage` as a learning experience ;)
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<evanjs>
Is it even feasible for non top-level packages to searchable on the packages search at some point? Or is it just that we limit the scope to smaller sets? Like I can search JetBrains but not eg emacsPackages
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<tilpner>
evanjs: emacsPackages is explicitly marked as dontRecurseIntoAttrs
<infinisil>
evanjs: They are searchable
<infinisil>
Yeah only if they have that dontRecurse they aren't
<infinisil>
E.g. gnome3.* packages are searchable
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #78454 → bitcoin: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JvqZy
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<evernite_>
quit
<{^_^}>
Let me do that for you
<evernite_>
\quit
<{^_^}>
Let me do that for you
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<evanjs>
Out of curiosity, is there anything I should br aware of / potential negative implications if I do decide to set emacsPackages.dontRecurseIntoAttrs to false on my systems? Save potential for increased search times.
<sondr3>
a black hole could appear and devour your computer
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<tilpner>
evanjs: emacsPackages has no attribute dontRecurseIntoAttrs, and adding one with the value of false would not help. Removing the dontRecurseIntoAttrs would also not change anything, because it's an identity function
<tilpner>
evanjs: You can change dontRecurseIntoAttrs to recurseIntoAttrs though
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<evanjs>
Ahhh “marked as”. Got it. Hmm
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<kraem>
would After=local-fs.service be a good place for services that depend on all mountpoints defined to be mounted?
<evanjs>
Looking over some examples... this looks far easier than I expected. Especially with my current setup. Something like ` emacs23Packages = recurseIntoAttrs (emacsPackages emacs23 pkgs.emacs23Packages);` that’s easy, then 😄
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<manveru>
did `nixpkgs.crossSystem` change in 19.09? I'm trying `nixpkgs.crossSystem = lib.systems.examples.aarch64-multiplatform` to build for my rpi, but i get `attribute 'system' missing`
<manveru>
none of those examples has a `system` attribute, afaict
<mojjo>
I have a simple nginx config. Accessing the root works fine. accessing a location redirect (defined as `"~ ^/something(?:/(.*))?$" = { alias = someDerivation + "/$1"; };` does not work. When I try to access `localhost/something/non_existing_file` I get 404, as expected. The error logs tell me that the lookup was in the correct directory in the nix
<mojjo>
store. If I access `localhost/something/existing_file` I do get an 500 error and no logs. Any ideas?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @ehmry pushed commit from @Atemu to master « dnscrypt-proxy2: 2.0.25 -> 2.0.36 »: https://git.io/JvqRD
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @GRBurst opened pull request #78474 → amdgpu-fan: init at 0.0.6 → https://git.io/JvqRy
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<evanjs>
sondr3++
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sondr3's karma got increased to 2
<evanjs>
Just saw your response to my question earlier 😝
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<sigwinch28>
sondr3: as I said earlier to symphorien: thanks for the help w.r.t. nixpkgs/custom packages yesterday. I learned how to use overlays and everything ^_^
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @bennofs pushed commit from @bdesham to master « swiftformat: init at 0.44.0 »: https://git.io/Jvq0z
<philipp[m]>
tilpner: I'm trying to fetch an install iso without dependencies while still checking the signature, but mostly because I'm curious how to do it.
<scheming_around>
And I'm confused by the steps in section 9.3
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<sondr3>
silly question, I need to run `nix-env` in a `buildPhase` but get `nix-env: command not found`. I'm using a normal `stdenv.mkDerivation`, do I have to add `nix` to `buildInputs`?
<mojjo>
you should not run this in a build phase. and if you do it will not work as it talks to the network. just add the package you want to install to the build inputs
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<sondr3>
I'm using it to create a JSON file of the packages in my repo with `nix-env -f . -qa --json`, but I don't want to commit it to the repo... I realize it's not pretty but I haven't been able to generate a JSON-file another way
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<ongy[m]>
Hey, is there something special to do on nixos for firmware loads? I added linuxFirmwareNonfree to the system.environment list, but searching for them on the filesystem they are only in the store (And aren't loaded). If I copy them over to /lib/firmware manually they are loaded on firmware load
<mojjo>
^ would be really cool if someone could help me here :/// fighting this 500 error for 3 hours now
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<kalbasit>
clever: regarding 'replace it entirely' from yesterday regarding the `--option trusted-public-keys`. Is there an option that adds instead of replace? A bit of context might help: At work, we have our own private cache and we have a custom `use_nix` for direnv that hardcodes the binary-cache/trusted-public-keys. That worked for a while, but when I rolled my own cache at home to avoid exceeding my ISP bandwidth, it
<kalbasit>
started giving problems as `--option binary-caches` overrides what I have locally. I want to switch to `--option extra-substituters` to append the substituter instead of replacing them.
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @turboMaCk opened pull request #78478 → zasm: Init at 4.2.6 → https://git.io/Jvqun
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<clever>
kalbasit: you can add all public keys to nix.conf, and then use extra-substituters to actually then the cache on/off
<hpfr[m]>
kalbasit: couldn’t find your previous discussion in logs, but if you mean you are looking for an option like extra-substituters but for keys, couldn’t you add the keys to trusted-public-keys without adding the URL to substituters, so you could just manually list the URL in extra-substituters and have the key already in nix.conf?
<kalbasit>
clever: that will require manual effort from devs :(. I'll see what else I can do. Thanks!
<hpfr[m]>
Hah that was weird
<clever>
kalbasit: there is also `nix show-config` which can read the current values
<clever>
kalbasit: you can then use bash to join things together
<kalbasit>
oh
<kalbasit>
that works!!
<kalbasit>
thanks clever
<clever>
kalbasit: and $NIX_CONF_DIR can override the location of nix.conf
<clever>
kalbasit: so direnv can change all defaults
<kalbasit>
I don't think the $NIX_CONF_DIR would work, but the `nix show-config` would definitely work!. Thank you!
<scheming_around>
Can anyone point me to some documentation on how nix determines runtime dependencies?
<scheming_around>
<scheming_around>
The nix pill on the subject is not clear to me
<clever>
scheming_around: basically, nix will just turn the entire $out into a single string (like `tar $out > foo.tar`, and then grep that string for every input path
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<kraem>
i'm trying to import an encrypted zpool using fileSystems instead of zfs.extraPools and am having trouble getting the pool imported and mounted. i've got pool called 'data' (unencrypted) and a subpool at 'data/enc' (encrypted). the mountpoint for both are set to legacy and 'data/enc' has a keylocation set. i've now set 'fileSystems."/data" = { device = "data/enc"; fsType = "zfs"; };' but the pool is
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<kraem>
not imported at boot. what am i missing? :)
<infinisil>
kraem: data/enc is a dataset within the 'data' pool. There's no such thing as a subpool (unless something changed and I'm out of date)
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<kraem>
you're right, always confuse the names of datasets and pools.
<kraem>
your comment made me think; do i need to define the pool as a fileSystem too so it gets imported and in turn 'data/enc' can be imported too?
<infinisil>
Nah just defining fileSystems should work
<infinisil>
The fact that fsType is zfs should let it automatically import the data pool first
<infinisil>
kraem: What's your nixos version?
<kraem>
unstable
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<infinisil>
kraem: What's the status after boot? zpool imported but /data not mounted?
<kraem>
nope 'zpool status' only shows 'tank' which holds the os
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #78479 → [19.09] file: fix download url for CVE-2019-18218 → https://git.io/Jvqg7
<infinisil>
I think that's supposed to create such an import service for every pool, which should then call `zfs load-key -r ${pool}` for all pools
<kraem>
i was just reading those lines :)
<kraem>
no idea why that isn't happening though
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<infinisil>
kraem: If you use a mutable version of nixpkgs you could add some traces there to see the values there
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<kraem>
how would i get the output from those lines?
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<kraem>
brb reboot
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<kraem>
infinisil: can i use builtins.trace for this? what would be the expression i'd like to return in that case?
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[nixpkgs] @Infinisil opened pull request #78481 → mumble: Fix PLUGIN_PATH definition so it can find the CELT library → https://git.io/JvqaL
<noonien>
hello
<noonien>
is it possible to run `nix-instantiate` in a nix derivation?
<noonien>
(during the build)
<tilpner>
Why do you want to do that?
<noonien>
i've created a program that uses nix to evaluate different languages, i hae a derivation, the input is what the user specified, and its output is what the evaluation/interpretation/running of the program returns
<noonien>
and i want to add nix to the available languages, but inside the nix sandbox
<tilpner>
Hold on, that sounds familiar
<tilpner>
Where do you get the input from?
<infinisil>
kraem: If you want to know the value of <thing> when <otherthing> is evaluated you do e.g. `lib.traceSeqN 1 <thing> <otherthing>`
<infinisil>
kraem: So you'd replace a <otherthing> in the code with that
<infinisil>
Increase the 1 to evaluate <thing> more deeply
<noonien>
that's not really relevant, currently i pass it as a file using, for example: `nix-build ./eval.nix -A nix --arg file ./do-me.nix`
<noonien>
but i'm creating this as a command for a discord bot
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<tilpner>
Yes it is relevant
<noonien>
how so?
<tilpner>
The Nix sandbox is primarily meant for security
<M2easy2do[m]>
I have created a modified version of the ruby pacakages nix expression but when i try to install it it dosnt change my package
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<kraem>
infinisil: thought it would be a great idea to not write over my old hardware config so cp:ed it with a new name to my nixconfig dir.. forgot to change the import in said machines config file 😖
<{^_^}>
M2easy2do[m]: Provide as much info as possible on problems. What specifically doesn't work? What command did you run? What's in the relevant files? What's the error? This makes debugging easier and helps getting faster responses
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<evanjs>
ermm.. checking out a staleish package... and wondering... if libPath isn't explicitly used in the derivation, is there anything that uses it implictly, or is it just ignored?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @fishi0x01 opened pull request #78485 → burpsuite: fix coredump on jre8 → https://git.io/JvqVy
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<spacekookie>
Anyone here using fractal outside of gnome? For some reason it's not storing my credentials, but then asks me for my gnome-keyring pw after giving them
<worldofpeace>
(I'm the maintainer of the package)
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<spacekookie>
worldofpeace: I have that enabled, that's what's befuddeling me
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<spacekookie>
Like it asks me to unlock the keyring, after giving it the credentials, but never seems to actually store them, or even try to get them when logging in
<worldofpeace>
spacekookie: hmm, de/wm and display-manager setup? Perhaps the keyring is locked on login
<spacekookie>
worldofpeace: yea there's a secret in there
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<spacekookie>
Actually twice
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<worldofpeace>
spacekookie: I believe one is the actual identity secret and the other is a token
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<spacekookie>
No, there's the token, and there's two secrets that are the same
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<worldofpeace>
instantiate your login keyring. and perhaps it would be a good idea to remove those secrets from the keyring and try to reproduce it again.
<worldofpeace>
spacekookie: from your "Anyone here using fractal outside of gnome? For some reason it's not storing my credentials, but then asks me for my gnome-keyring pw after giving them" it makes me think that when you enter your credentials the login keyring is locked, and it should be unlocked on login from the pam module (which made me ask what exactly "outside of gnome" looked like), and then I also wonder how did you
<spacekookie>
Well, actually it uses lightdm? Not sure where that's defined actually
<spacekookie>
Might be just part of the xfce setup. I stole that setup mostly from the nixos xfce+i3 section
<ryantm>
I have a oneshot systemd service running on NixOS and when I rebuild switch while changing the configuration of that service while it is running, it stops that service and restarts it (as part of the activation scripts, I think). Is there a builtin way to turn that off?
<worldofpeace>
oh right, spacekookie the default display manager in nixos lightdm
<worldofpeace>
spacekookie: could you login and logout to see if your login keyring gets unlocked? (which release btw)
<gchristensen>
ryantm: it sounds like it is WantedBy multi-user.target or something, but is not RemainAfterExit?
<spacekookie>
worldofpeace: I can't really at the moment, but from memory it doesn't