<infinisil>
benley: Ah, did the upstream systemd unit not add that itself?
<infinisil>
What wantedBy's did it have?
<benley>
It does actually contain that statement upstream, but that's not enough for the nixos activation script to notice that it's supposed to start the unit
<benley>
so it looks like if I started the unit once, switch-to-configuration would notice in the future when it changed, and would restart it as needed
<benley>
and systemd would probably have started the unit at boot
<infinisil>
Ah that could be it
<benley>
it's just when it first gets installed that the unit doesn't get started without adding a hint in the nixos config for it
<tomberek>
hrm... doesn't seem horrible. does that hash leak into the output?
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<evanjs>
tomberek: not that I can see. Can't see much on Cargo's side that gives it to me either
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<tomberek>
C/C++ derivations can be signaled by pkgsStatic via NIX_CFLAGS_LINK to attempt a static build. Is there a similar way to detect that we are in pkgsStatic for go packages?
<lovesegfault>
Does anyone understand how to get Python's ctypes.cdll to play with Nix?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JvfAH
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<AmandaC>
lovesegfault: that should Just Work if you wrap the executable to set LD_PRELOAD or whatever the magic is used. You'd just make the nix expression for that depend on the libhidapi package
<hpfr[m]>
I have distributed builds set up on my laptop, but I’m away from them now. No matter what I try I can’t get “nix-channel update” to stop trying to connect to my remote builder which isn’t on my network right now. It chokes every time trying to open a connection, what can I do?
<hpfr[m]>
I’ve tried --option builders “” --option substituters “https://cache.nixos.org” --option trusted-public-keys CNO-key, but that doesn’t change it
<AmandaC>
lovesegfault: hrm. Not sure, sorry.
<AmandaC>
lovesegfault: if you stick around someone else might know though
<tomberek>
hpfr[m]: `--builders ""` was going to be my guess, isn't `:` or `local` special?
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<evanjs>
hpfr[m]: what about eg `--no-build-hook`?
<evanjs>
"Disables the build hook mechanism. This allows to ignore remote builders if they are setup on the machine."
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<hpfr[m]>
tomberek: what do you mean : and local, like try those instead of empty string?
<hpfr[m]>
evanjs: it prints unpacking channels and stops immediately, I don’t think it’s getting the channel because NRS after evaluates like nothing changed (I know it should get stuff, it’s out of date by weeks)
<hpfr[m]>
How can I check what channel revision I’m at again? Should really be part of nix-channel but I guess flakes are coming anyway
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<evanjs>
nixos-version?
<hpfr[m]>
Never knew about that haha I always had to look up whatever /etc/profiles gibberish
<evanjs>
yep, basically just a shortcut for all of that :P
<evanjs>
nix-info is another helpful utility in this case
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<evanjs>
lovesegfault: have you seen nixpkgs.pythonPackages.hidapi already?
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[nixpkgs] @Frostman opened pull request #77592 → iperf3: fix compilation to support authentication creds → https://git.io/JvfpG
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<lovesegfault>
evanjs: Yeah, different package
<lovesegfault>
that one is:
<lovesegfault>
1. unmaintained
<lovesegfault>
2. Cython-based
<evanjs>
lovesegfault: sure, just wondered if there was anything that’d help in the case of hidapi linkage. Doesn’t sound like it though
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<hpfr[m]>
I can’t nix-channel update because it tries to connect to a remote builder, and I can’t nixos-rebuild because it says a store path isn’t valid. Am I going to have to reinstall at this point? :/
<lovesegfault>
evanjs: Thank you :)
<evanjs>
hpfr[m]: no clue if it matters, but what does your $NIX_PATH look like?
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<bhipple>
gchristensen: I've been looking at the fetchcargo vendored src dirs going into a vendor.tar.gz file instead of a big -source dir package, and have a working simple implementation. What'd be the best way to get some feedback from stakeholders and see if they agree it's a good idea in the first place?
<bhipple>
Feels too small for an RFC. Discourse post in development maybe? GitHub issue? PR with a [Feedback wanted] tag?
<bhipple>
The most annoying part would be the churn of updating ~200 hashes and/or providing some useLegacyBehavior = true flag while transitioning, but the actual implementation is like 2 lines
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[nixpkgs] @Frostman opened pull request #77594 → Fix boot.loader.grub.extraFiles when used with mirroredBoots → https://git.io/Jvfjl
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<cosman>
how do I install make. nix search make returns no results
<evils>
gnumake
<cosman>
is there a surrounding developer package that installs all the development related things (gcc, make, cmake, ...)
<evils>
,libraries cosman
<{^_^}>
cosman: Don't install libraries through nix-env or systemPackages, use nix-shell instead. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/Libraries for details.
<cosman>
yeah, I am newb. Was somewhat following instructions from the docs. Basically I am trying to use bundix to build a nix package for my ruby cli tool.
<drakonis>
because there are games that dont support it
<evanjs>
drakonis: is that required to use DS4 or does it do anything extra—ah that makes sense
<drakonis>
these games support xbox controllers
<drakonis>
so this emulates xinput, allowing you to use the ds4 with it
<evanjs>
Versus manually configuring games or finding a profile that works in big picture mode or etc
<drakonis>
yes
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<drakonis>
that goes out of the window
<iqubic>
So, how do I install this on NixOS?
<drakonis>
enter a shell with python3Packages.ds4drv
<iqubic>
Can I install this globally?
<drakonis>
no
<drakonis>
its a python package
<iqubic>
Damn. I really don't want to have to launch steam through a nix-shell.
<drakonis>
you dont have to do that lol
<disasm>
I seem to have busted my dns setup... getting this in the logs: dnsdist[6316]: Fatal error: binding socket to 0.0.0.0:53: Permission denied but sudo netstat -tupln|grep 53 shows nothing listening. I also confirmed systemd-resolved is not enabled.
<evanjs>
Too bad it can’t be added to udevPackages or etc
<evanjs>
Sounds like a good candidate for a module
<drakonis>
actually this is a thing you run
<drakonis>
connect your controller through bluetooth or usb and run ds4drv
<drakonis>
with usb you need --hidraw
<iqubic>
I see.
<drakonis>
the docs explain these things
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<iqubic>
I still don't like having this be something that I need to run through a nix-shell
<drakonis>
then don't have access to your controller on games that dont support a ds4?
<iqubic>
I see. Right.
<drakonis>
just leave it running on a terminal window
<AmandaC>
I'm pretty sure you can install that globally just fine
<drakonis>
python packages dont exactly like being installed globally
<evanjs>
It really depends on the games anyhow
<iqubic>
So, how do I set up a nix-shell with this package? I've never tried to use python in a nix-shell.
<AmandaC>
There's another python program.i packaged for myself that installed globally fine anyway
<drakonis>
its just nix-shell -p python3Packages.ds4drv
<drakonis>
does it have a lot of python dependencies?
<AmandaC>
Gobject-imtrospection mostly
<drakonis>
the problem is with importing dependencies
<AmandaC>
And that just means you have to turn on the wrapper generation in the package
<iqubic>
I got the same output as before, and my led stayed on.
<colemickens>
I had thought of the same thing, it has caught me before. I also checked `nix-channel --list` both with/without sudo and confirmed there's no channels registered anywhere anyway
<drakonis>
idgi
<samueldr>
when I manipulate NIX_PATH as my user, then do sudo env, colemickens, the path in that `sudo env` is not what I just manipulated
<colemickens>
samueldr: thats my nix.nixPath too, if it helps explain
<iqubic>
drakonis: How did you get this tool set up?
<samueldr>
right, so if it's your nix.nixPath it should be working
<samueldr>
is your configuration loading stuff?
* colemickens
goes to run with trace/verbose.
<samueldr>
I mean, that's a "duh" question, but sometimes the obvious eludes the best of us :)
<colemickens>
samueldr: I mean, my config loads a few overlays and a different package... set... for ... cachix.
<colemickens>
oops.
<colemickens>
it's probably that.
<samueldr>
:3
<samueldr>
eludes the best of us!
<colemickens>
Yeah, geez, thanks for helping me rubber duck debug :)
<samueldr>
"but why is the dang thing doing exactly the thing I'm telling it to do?" is a common question in computer things
<iqubic>
drakonis: I feel like such an idiot. I'm also sorry for wasting your time. It turns out that DS4 and DS3 are not compatible. I'm trying to use a DS3 with this software. So no wonder it's failing.
<drakonis>
there's one for DS3s
<drakonis>
should be a search away
<iqubic>
I'm not finding it.
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<drakonis>
xboxdrv has mappings for it
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<iqubic>
I'll try that out.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @samueldr opened pull request #77596 → libselinux: Fix cross-compilation with Python 3 → https://git.io/JvJfZ
<iqubic>
drakonis: What makes you so sure that this tool has DS3 mappings? Their homepage doesn't mention that.
<iqubic>
drakonis: Thanks so much for your help today.
<drakonis>
s'cool
<drakonis>
i'll go catch some Z's
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<iqubic>
I might set this up so it is run automatically on system bootup with the --daemon flag, but that's not specific to this program, so I figure others can help me with that task.
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<drakonis>
write a module
<iqubic>
I'm not sure how to do that. I assume someone else can help me, or I'll look up a guide online.
<iqubic>
I'm not going to do that right now though. Now I want to test my game and see if it works.
<iqubic>
It's working.
<iqubic>
It actually works.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @tomberek opened pull request #77597 → gobetween: init at 0.7.0 → https://git.io/JvJf6
<cosman>
if my app want to write to a directory, should it be writing in a env location. Basically I am storing things like a settings file and cache data. I don’t want this data to go away upon removal of app.
<Rovanion>
I want to install the nix package manager as a system package on CentOS and Ubuntu, available for all users to use at any time. How would I go about that? The installer script https://nixos.org/nix/install seems to the current user's home directory.
<silver_hook>
To answer myself, I just tried it and KDEPIM/Akonadi is still broken in 19.09.
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<LnL>
__monty__: caffeinate is a binary to keep the system from sleeping, you can just patch that out
<LnL>
we have darwin.PowerManagement, but there's no real reason to depend on it
<chagra>
I remember hearing somewhere about a home-manager NixOS module. Is there a declarative way to setup home manager on nixos? or do youhave to do it the ad-hoc way?
<rajivr___>
Is there a canonical nixos option prefix reserved for "local" options - something like `options.local.XYZ` ?
<clever>
rajivr___: i tend to just stick them where it makes the most sense, programs.vim.fat is a custom option that controls if vim depends on clang at runtime
<clever>
,runtimedeps __monty__
<{^_^}>
__monty__: In order of preference: Patch source OR ((if it uses PATH -> wrap with new $PATH) AND (if it uses dlopen, (patchelf --set-rpath in postFixup OR wrap with new LD_LIBRARY_PATH)))
<clever>
spelled it out too much, heh
<rajivr___>
clever: Thanks.
<__monty__>
clever: Yeah but which of the three methods is preferred? They're all about patching the source. Maybe it also matters that this patch would have little to no chance of being accepted upstream?
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<clever>
__monty__: only the 1st is patching the source, the rest are wrapping the compiled binary to set vars at runtime
<clever>
__monty__: and i prefer .patch files, because those will fail if the thing your patching cant be found
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<__monty__>
clever: No, 1) patch, 2) sed, 3) builtins.replaceStrings. These are three ways of patching the source. The first depends on source locations unnecessarily and doesn't have the advantage of being convenient to upstream. 2 depends on sed, and 3 makes for reading and writing and replacing, aka noise in the expression.
<clever>
__monty__: builtins.replaceStrings can only work on strings that exist at the nix level, so it wont handle files within the source
<clever>
__monty__: sed can silently do nothing, if the source changes
<__monty__>
clever: No, hence the reading/writing noise.
<clever>
so i would prefer to just use a patch
<__monty__>
I'll go with a patch then.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @petabyteboy closed pull request #63613 → [WIP] nixos/acme: switch to lego and support DNS challenge → https://git.io/fjwTX
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<__monty__>
Is there a specific requirement for patches? Generated by git or the format?
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<dramforever>
__monty__: Anything 'patch -p1' will recognize. IIRC git format-patch, git diff will work
<dramforever>
diff will likely work if you do it the right way
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @R-VdP opened pull request #77622 → NixOS/auto-upgrade: offer the possibility to define a reboot window during which the system may be automatically reboote… → https://git.io/JvJ3Z
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to master « release.nix and release-small.nix: remove unar, fixes #76927 »: https://git.io/JvJsY
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[nixpkgs] @globin opened pull request #77624 → gitlab: fix asset building for CE → https://git.io/JvJss
<jakobrs>
Is it possible to have multiple source directories?
<adisbladis>
jakobrs: Sure it is :)
<adisbladis>
jakobrs: srcs = [];
<jakobrs>
The problem I get is "unpacker produced multiple directories"
<clever>
jakobrs: sourceRoot must be set to the name of what you should cd into
<jakobrs>
Oh, that makes sense
<jakobrs>
thanks
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<clever>
jakobrs: by default, it will basically diff `ls` before and after unpacking, and guess where it should cd, based on what unpacking made
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #77629 → pythonPackages.poetry: Inherit package from top-level → https://git.io/JvJZE
<Rovanion>
Hmm, is it possible to have the nix installer place symlinks/binaries in for example /usr/local/bin/? Is there a reason why it doesn't do that and why I shouldn't on my own?
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<adisbladis>
Rovanion: What makes you think you want to?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #77630 → ocaml-ng.ocamlPackages_4_10.ocaml: init at 4.10.0+beta1 → https://git.io/JvJZV
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<simpson>
Rovanion: The general reason not to do it is that, normally, we know what's in /usr and it's very very little. What are you working on?
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<Rovanion>
adisbladis: Good question. I'm working on a frankensteinian project, I've got a bunch of machines managed through Puppet but the easiest way to install this one package seems to be through nix. But that means I first have to install Nix, which is what I'm looking at right now. Once installed I would like to invoke nix like any other binary in the normal $PATH.
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<adisbladis>
Rovanion: Right, the just chuck a symlink in there yourself :)
<adisbladis>
Nothing wrong with that.
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<adisbladis>
Though what's your upgrade path? What will the symlink point to ?
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<Rovanion>
Yeah, it seems a bit off to symlink /usr/local/bin/nix-env to /root/.nix-profile/bin/nix-env.
<Rovanion>
Is there a system version of nix-env? so to speak.
<Rovanion>
Because that version is attached to the root user, which perhaps could work like a stand-in for "the system".
<clever>
Rovanion: when ran as root, nix-env operates on roots profile, which is normally in $PATH for every user
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[nixpkgs] @jwiegley pushed commit from Pass Automated Testing Suite to johnw/58975 « Disable further pass tests that end up relying on gpg-agent on Darwin »: https://git.io/JvJC1
<gchristensen>
I have this nix file: { imports = [ ... ({ lib, ... }: { ... some things that use lib }) ... ]; } ... is this okay? will it give good errors if there is an error? is there a way within the module system to do this better?
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[nixpkgs] @jwiegley pushed commit from Pass Automated Testing Suite to johnw/58975 « Disable further pass tests that end up relying on gpg-agent on Darwin »: https://git.io/JvJC5
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[nixpkgs] @jwiegley opened pull request #77634 → Disable further pass tests that end up relying on gpg-agent on Darwin → https://git.io/JvJCF
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<sondr3>
huh, just did a channel update and rebuild and it looks like my system is compiling the linux kernel from source
<{^_^}>
rycee/home-manager#980 (by sballert, 4 days ago, open): Warning: type loaOf is deprecated
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<gchristensen>
ahh cool, worldofpeace
<worldofpeace>
gchristensen: it's not really worth nitpicking because it's going to be removed next release
<gchristensen>
right on
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* LnL
also needs to look at that
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<LnL>
gchristensen: btw what would it take to run r13y for the darwin stdenv?
<gchristensen>
hmm
<gchristensen>
a redesign of the website and a builder I can directly run r13y the executable on
<worldofpeace>
gnidorah: Hi, I do realize I've been a bit unresponsive on your PR. Sorry about that
<gchristensen>
(you can't --check over a remote builder)
<LnL>
yeah I know
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<gnidorah>
worldofpeace: hi! no needs to sorry :-)
<worldofpeace>
gnidorah: At the moment I don't think I'll be able to review it any time soon ☹️ And that sucks because it probably needs to be eventually approved by either me or Jan Tojnar.
<gchristensen>
LnL: -> -dev
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<sondr3>
yep, still compiling the kernel. Anyone know what gives?
<qyliss>
Somebody else reported the same thing earlier...
<qyliss>
Are you using nixos-unstable or nixpkgs-unstable?
<Athas>
gchristensen: really, even in stable? Cool!
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<gchristensen>
I think the _latest kernel will continue to be updated, yeah, even on stable. there was a recent discussion and I think that is where we endedu p.
<arcnmx>
infinisil: I have something like coercedTo types.str (path: { inherit path; }) (submodule { ... }) and it took me hours to figure out what was going on because it happened to have a default.nix inside the path and nothing made any sense x.x
<infinisil>
Hmm..
<infinisil>
I'd think it should prefer it to be interpreted as a string in that case
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<rmra>
hello, i upgrade my machine to 10.09 and have a issue: systemd-timesyncd.service - Network Time Synchronization
<infinisil>
rmra: You probably updated stateVersion in your configuration.nix. Don't do that, revert it to the previous value
<rmra>
it failed do start network time syn
<infinisil>
,stateVersion rmra
<{^_^}>
rmra: Setting stateVersion to the latest release doesn't upgrade anything and can only break your setup at best. To actually upgrade NixOS see https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/#sec-upgrading. If you want to update the stateVersion option regardless, Ctrl-F for "stateVersion" in https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/release-notes.html to see things that need to be manually migrated with the new value.
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<rmra>
ok, tkz
<infinisil>
arcnmx: Hm yeah it seems that the final type is preferred if possible..
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<arcnmx>
infinisil: yeah, obviously I would've wanted the former though that preference may not be universal... just a very unfortunate failure mode, and not sure if I should just reimplement coercedTo the other way around?
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<infinisil>
I kind of think the other way around would make more sense anyways
<infinisil>
`coercedTo type f newType` is like `either type newType`
<infinisil>
And either prefers the first argument
<infinisil>
In case a value has both types
<infinisil>
It might be reasonable to change nixpkgs coercedTo implementation to work that way
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* arcnmx
nod
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* infinisil
checks if nixpkgs contains any problematic coercedTo's
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<infinisil>
Problematic instances are: The first type could have a reasonable path value and the second type is a submodule
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 8 commits to release-19.09: https://git.io/JvJ8a
<cosman>
How do I make a channel to host my nix package
<infinisil>
arcnmx: Doesn't look like nixpkgs has any
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<infinisil>
arcnmx: Seems like there shouldn't be a problem with changing coercedTo's ordering, want to make a PR for that? The change is just https://paste.infinisil.com/5JS4TjjfV4.diff
<kalbasit>
clever: awesome that's what I'm looking for. I was actually setting it, but next to the `deployment` key. I think it should work there as well
<kalbasit>
clever: another question that always eludes me. Can I ask nixops to pretend to deploy?
<kalbasit>
`--dry-run` or `--dry-activate`?
<clever>
kalbasit: nixops deploy --build-only or --copy-only are options
<kalbasit>
I'll try --copy-only
<clever>
copy-only will build everything, and copy to every machine in parallel, but not activate anything
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<kalbasit>
clever: AWS recently rolled out arm support. Do you know if we have AMIs already for it?
<kalbasit>
I checked but I was not able to find them
<clever>
kalbasit: ive not heard of one yet
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[nixpkgs] @thilobillerbeck opened pull request #77639 → Added the option to enable Gitlab Container Registry → https://git.io/JvJ4r
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[nixpkgs] @flyfloh opened pull request #77641 → rxv: init at 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JvJ4F
<cosman>
adisbladis, so if I have https://gitlab.com/blockops/crossbelt-nix-pkg already how does this differ with an overlay. I just don’t know what to do with this repo now that I created the content.
<sondr3>
anyone know of a simple way of setting up a postgresql database locally for development? I have the package and can run `createdb` and such, but actually running it is a massive PITA
<sondr3>
but I think it might be because I don't really have much experience with it
<nixnewbie>
hi, I think a KDE application (yakuake) is missing some exports in the /bin wrapper script
<nixnewbie>
I'm trying to understand how those exports are generated
<kalbasit>
how can I activate a random nixos system generation as the default in grub? I want to reboot to a previous generation in grub without physical access to the device
<kalbasit>
`/nix/var/nix/profiles/system-14-link/bin/switch-to-configuration boot` found it
<nixnewbie>
https://pastebin.com/Jq4SiwTQ <-- this is what I have, I think konsole is missing, in fact if I add a couple of exports yakuake works properly
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<zeta_0>
in home.nix i set this environment variable: `NIX_GHC_LIBDIR = "ghc --print-libdir";`, and when i ran ghcide i got this error? `ghcide: ghc --print-libdir/settings: openFile: does not exist (No such file or directory)`