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<Raito_Bezarius>
Any reason why I have a permission denied when I try to cp to $out in a derivation?
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<Raito_Bezarius>
I tried to use symlinkJoin but I need hard links because I cd into one of the folder and use it with something which refers to the path and do some ../folder from the joined symlink stuff and it does not work because of soft linking
<Raito_Bezarius>
Hard linking didn't work ; cp don't work too
<clever>
Raito_Bezarius: can you pastebin the entire expr?
<clever>
Raito_Bezarius: change it to `cp -rv` and youll see what is happening
<clever>
maybe also add an `echo copying $i`
<clever>
you should see, it copied 1 item successfully, then it failed on a 2nd item
<clever>
because the 1st item created read-only dirs in the way
<Raito_Bezarius>
ahhh I see
<Raito_Bezarius>
so when I'm using a cp $i/* with a glob, I won't be able to chmod +w -R immediately after right, I'll be forced to use some flag with cp?
<Raito_Bezarius>
so what I want rather than cp is install?
<clever>
in this case, you can just blindly `chown +w -R $out` each time you copy something
<Raito_Bezarius>
Alright, will try this
<Raito_Bezarius>
Also, is it expected that nix-build don't cache the derivations built?
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<clever>
Raito_Bezarius: if your doing ./. and . changes (for example, due to a result symlink), it will want to build it again
<clever>
lib.cleanSource ./.; will remove common mistakes from the source
<Raito_Bezarius>
ah! that's it then
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #77960 → nixos/doc: suggest checking options for declarative package mgmt → https://git.io/JvTxc
<clever>
aanderse: this will take whatever nixpkgs is being used to build the machine (see above to adjust), and put a copy of it at /run/current-system/nixpkgs on the remote machine
<clever>
and then adjust NIX_PATH to obey that
<clever>
it also intentionally breaks nixos-rebuild, so you cant un-deploy nixops
<infinisil>
aanderse: Ahh the pkgs.path thing is the important thing there that's different than what I showed
<infinisil>
From clever's code
<aanderse>
ah... so `ln -sv ${pkgs.path} $out/nixpkgs` will force the copy from nixops master to slave eh?
<clever>
yeah
<infinisil>
clever: I suggested using <nixpkgs> directly
<aanderse>
infinisil: yeah, i would guess so...
<clever>
${<nixpkgs>} would likely work the same, in this exact case
<clever>
it would only differ outside of nixops, if you `nix-build ~/nixpkgs/nixos` and dont change the search path
<aanderse>
sometimes i wanna run nix-shell on a machine and thats a problem of course
<aanderse>
what with the old channel
<aanderse>
thanks both clever and infinisil
<aanderse>
clever++
<{^_^}>
clever's karma got increased to 310
<aanderse>
infinisil++
<{^_^}>
infinisil's karma got increased to 194
<clever>
when did i break 300? lol
<Ashy>
has anyone packaged up the linux version of teams yet?
<hpfr[m]>
Does anyone else have the empty file /etc/NIXOS on their machines?
<clever>
hpfr[m]: its required, thats how shell scripts know your actually on nixos
<clever>
hpfr[m]: it stops something like nixos-rebuild from making a total mess all over an ubuntu machine
<hpfr[m]>
That seems... brittle
<Ashy>
aanderse: hmm, is it just unstable.teams? with unstable defined as: nixpkgs.config.packageOverrides = pkgs: { unstable = import <nixos-unstable> { config = config.nixpkgs.config; }};
<clever>
hpfr[m]: i have intentionally side-stepped that, to convert a gentoo into nixos
<hpfr[m]>
Exactly, it doesn’t protect much at all
<clever>
hpfr[m]: /etc/NIXOS_LUSTRATE helps to clean the gentoo out of your machine on first boot, which makes it much smoother of a transition
<Ashy>
aanderse: i get error: attribute 'teams' missing, at /etc/nixos/profiles/desktop.nix:159:5 in my config
<clever>
hpfr[m]: its more to prevent accidents, rather then stop intentional actions
<hpfr[m]>
It’s annoying to me because it populates auto fill when I’m trying to open a file in /etc/nixos/
<aanderse>
Ashy: { allowUnfree = true; }; ?
<clever>
hpfr[m]: related, i accidentally ran the nas activate script, on my laptop, and because both are nixos, /etc/NIXOS existed, and it happily steam-roled all of my state :P
<hpfr[m]>
But ok thanks for the heads up I was about to remove it
<aanderse>
but yeah... that isn't the error
<aanderse>
hmm
<aanderse>
how old is your unstable channel?
<hpfr[m]>
Oof
<clever>
hpfr[m]: systemd then promptly dropped into emergency mode, because all of the nas based fstab entries couldnt be found, and it wasnt possible to recover without a reboot
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to release-19.09: https://git.io/JvTpg
<Ashy>
aanderse: shouldn't it update every time i run `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`?
<Ashy>
and yeah allowUnfree=true;
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<clever>
Ashy: `nixos-rebuild --upgrade` will only `nix-channel --update nixos`, which restricts it to one channel
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<Ashy>
clever: cool i'll send a PR
<kreisys>
is it impossible to filter sources that were *downloaded* by nix?
<kreisys>
I feel like I hit this every once in a while, work around it somehow, forget all about it and then hit it again :|
<kreisys>
cleanSource(/With) can compose but you still have to start with a non-store path.
<kreisys>
if I try to filter a niv source (because I don't want to rebuild when there's a change to say README.md) then hydra wants to bite my head off.
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<clever>
kreisys: you would need to use a postUnpack in something like fetchzip, to edit it before the hashing
<clever>
kreisys: and then niv's sha256 wont be right, so you have to abandon niv's help
<kreisys>
oh but that's like supremely ugly! I'd have to reimplement what nix can already do using hacky shellcraft :(
<kreisys>
ugh I really need my slack :hairpull: emoji now :D
<kreisys>
I once worked around it (ab?)using builtins.unsafeDiscardStringContext
<kreisys>
but I'm sure there's a very good reason not to do that. otherwise it wouldn't be marked "unsafe"
<clever>
nix wont know about you depending on that thing, so it wont copy it to the build machines
<clever>
and wont include it in the sandbox
<clever>
but, the string itself still changes with the source, and messes with your own hashes
<clever>
2020-01-17 21:34:11 < clever> Raito_Bezarius: this is also why i tend to put the sources somewhere other then the root of the project
<clever>
2020-01-17 21:34:21 < clever> Raito_Bezarius: so i always do src = ./foo; rather then ./.
<clever>
kreisys: thats why i avoid keeping source in the root of the repo, and then i can filter off just ./foo with lib.cleanSource
<kreisys>
yeah but it's a qa repo I don't want to piss them off 😅
<inferencerules>
clever: why-depends seems to just download all the stuff that would be pulled in the full nixos-rebuild - is that right?
<clever>
inferencerules: thats a bug in why-depends, youll need to use `nix-store -q --tree` and follow the line up from the problem package
<kreisys>
it wouldn't be unfair though since they forced me to much around with maven 🤮
<kreisys>
clever: what if I just give that repo its own hydra project/source/release.nix?
<kreisys>
hydra fetches sources outside the nix store no?
<clever>
kreisys: hydra-eval-jobset will fetch all sources, then copy them into /nix/store/
<kreisys>
but before eval?
<clever>
kreisys: and then if the storepaths are different from last time, it runs hydra-eval-jobs to eval it, and turn the nix exprs into a json blob listing all jobs
<clever>
hydra-eval-jobs always acts on the copy in the nix store
<kreisys>
dammittt
<kreisys>
I don't understand the logic behind this limitation
<kreisys>
Does it serve any purpose at all other than making my life miserable?
<clever>
purity?
<kreisys>
I don't see what's impure about taking one store path, removing some files, and creating a new store path without them files.
<clever>
if the 1st path has changed, it doesnt know what impact that might have on your transformation
<clever>
so it will want to re-apply "removing some files" and rebuild anything down-stream
<clever>
(if done in a normal derivation)
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<kreisys>
yeah that's why I don't want to do that in a normal derivation
<clever>
filterSource and lib.cleanSource act at eval time
<clever>
so they will just copy a subset of the store path, and create another entry in the store, and the string depends on the files it did copy
<clever>
kreisys: what error does hydra give if you try to filter a storepath?
<kreisys>
can't refer to store path
<clever>
can you paste the exact error msg?
<kreisys>
I already b0rked it in a different way so sec I'll have to scrape that off the logs
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<inferencerules>
clever: with the tree view i was able to find the offending package, thanks. not sure how the full gnome-desktop crept in as a dependency to evince again, it wasn't last week
<clever>
Ashy: nixos-rebuild -I nixpkgs=/path/to/nixpkgs test
<kreisys>
clever: in job ‘pkgs.midnight-automation.x86_64-linux’:
<kreisys>
the string 'y1fv29fx5rd4x2wh1c05s91vm317jfjm-source' is not allowed to refer to a store path (such as '/nix/store/y1fv29fx5rd4x2wh1c05s91vm317jfjm-source'), at /nix/store/wrpnqrwpxfxlqh8wcsw4wwy107b3smjd-source/lib/sources.nix:80:67
<clever>
Ashy: that will just build the whole system from that directory, and then the new nixos-rebuild command will be in $PATH
<kreisys>
tabarnak I redacted it in an ssh vim session so the copy never went to my local clipboard 🤣
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<kreisys>
don't tell d1sasm he would d1sassemble me
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<clever>
kreisys: or the error msg should be improved, to say that you should give a pure name, rather then letting the impure hash leak thru in the name
<clever>
kreisys: if you use the default name, then it will rebuild just as much
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<clever>
kreisys: because it will always create a clean /nix/store/hash1-hash2-source, and use a dirty hash2 in the name!
<clever>
thats exactly the problem that switching cleanSource to .path is meant to fix
<clever>
and it sorta made the impure method fatal, by accident!
<kreisys>
RIGHT
<kreisys>
I saw that before and scratched my head but never thought much ovit
<kreisys>
kk hydra is evalling. fingers crossed
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<niten>
hey all
<kreisys>
and I'm the first one to make a fuss about it?
<niten>
i'm having trouble with a cmake build, unable to find a dependency
<niten>
it's using pkg-config...the cli tool finds the dep, but the cmake build doesn't, and doesn't really give me any logs to look at
<niten>
i'm not familiar with cmake or pkg-config, but afaict it ought to be working...it's finding all the other deps just fine
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<kreisys>
clever: same error but now column 51 😔
<inferencerules>
clever: git bisect is amazing
<kreisys>
probably the path
<clever>
kreisys: thats the path = origSrc; part
<kreisys>
uff
<xa0[m]>
oh wow
<xa0[m]>
git bisect
* clever
looks
<xa0[m]>
that looks awesome
<xa0[m]>
i need to use that sometime
<clever>
kreisys: throw EvalError(format("string '%1%' cannot refer to other paths, at %2%") % path % *attr.pos);
<clever>
kreisys: whatever you put into path= must be a plain directory, not a derivation with dependencies
<inferencerules>
always learning a lot from this channel, but often about things other than nix somehow
<clever>
kreisys: fixed-output might work, as long as it has no "runtime" deps, according to `nix-store -qR`
<kreisys>
... nor a derivation without dependencies it seems
<kreisys>
it's a niv source
<clever>
kreisys: if you -qR the offending path, what does it say?
<kreisys>
only that same path
<kreisys>
I'm pretty sure niv sources are fixed output
<kreisys>
they all have hashes
<clever>
kreisys: and the error matches the one i pasted above?
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<kreisys>
yeah it's the exact same error from before; only differences being the column and the `/nix/store/` prefix that wasn't in the previous error (because it was the name)
<zeta_0>
the 1st time doing the rebuild i canceled 10 seconds in, then i ran the command again, so i maybe that's what is causing the error?
<clever>
zeta_0: that wouldnt cause the error on line 83
<zeta_0>
clever: thanks'
<zeta_0>
emacs rcirc has this weird bug where i sometimes can't delete single quotes '
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<zeta_0>
clever: haskell-ide-engine was giving me a lot of problems, so i after looking for alternatives i found ghcide, i am blown away, it only has a couple of features, but it is very stable and snappy
<clever>
zeta_0: personally, i just use bare ghcid and thats it
<xa0[m]>
i use weechat for irc in emacs instead
<xa0[m]>
all the native irc clients are too ...poor quality
<zeta_0>
clever: cool, i installed ghcid as well, is it hard to setup and use?
<xa0[m]>
as a matter of a fact, since i've migrated my home system to a nix userspace on gentoo, i should probably switch my emacs setup to a nix one too
<clever>
zeta_0: basically, just run `ghcid -c "cabal repl"`, thats it
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<zeta_0>
xa0[m]: i agree with you, but i prefer to do everything in emacs'
<clever>
zeta_0: it will run `cabal repl`, and do a `:r` every time your source changes, thats all it does
<xa0[m]>
zeta_O: i do too, honestly. I use exwm, and my home folder is built around the fact that i never leave emacs. I just have weechat running headless under systemd --user, so i can connect through emacs
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<DigitalKiwi>
Mic92: ping
<xa0[m]>
it's a little like having a bouncer, just, on the same system
<zeta_0>
clever: if i understand correctly ghcid is only for ghci right? does it work for haskell files?
<clever>
zeta_0: both ghcid and ghci are for haskell files
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<zeta_0>
xa0[m]: oh, you use weechat in emacs, cool
<xa0[m]>
yeah. there's a weechat-emacs.el project i've contributed a bit to over the years
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<zeta_0>
clever: oh i see, i need to give ghcid a try then
<zeta_0>
clever: i like the way ghcide shows type signatures, it makes it easier for me to follow the mappings
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<zeta_0>
xa0[m]: cool, i have been using emacs for a couple of months and i really like it
<xa0[m]>
it's excellent. let it infect your life. i do highly reccomend exwm if you like tiling window managers, though it can take some taming
<zeta_0>
xa0[m]: nice, i use xmonad, i like it's simplicity
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<xa0[m]>
fair enough. it's nice to have everything in one place, under one system, though. it essentially promotes emacs buffers to first-class x windows, and adds emacs shortcuts and operations to all other x windows. pretty handy at times
<zeta_0>
oh i see, having native support from emacs is very useful
<xa0[m]>
in my opinion the only thing missing is collapsing the boundary between browser and emacs some more. currently i use qutebrowser, but it'd be nice to have each tab as an emacs buffer etc.
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<xa0[m]>
If it's from github it may not be on melpa
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<xa0[m]>
(I actually avoid melpa altogether, use straight.el, fetches from git instead)
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<olmter>
I need help setting up FDE with ZFS using EFI grub. After running nixos-install it only creates a single file: EFI/NixOS-efi/grubx64.eff
<olmter>
If I run strings on it the end contains. "search.fs_uuid aaaaaaaa root\nset prefix=($root)'/root@/boot/grub\n/root@/boot/grub
<olmter>
aaaaaaaa represents a nonexistent uuid which might be it trying to look for my ZFS "partition"
<olmter>
I have my EFI partition mounted at /efi if that makes a difference.
<zeta_0>
so if this fork has not been packaged by nix then i will need to guess i will need to write a nix expression to install it from github
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<noonien>
how can i evaluate a nix expression and show its output?
<noonien>
ah, nix-instantiate --evla
<noonien>
eval*
<xa0[m]>
zeta_0: yeah
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<xa0[m]>
<bqv>
Hm
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<zeta_0>
clever: are you still on, i have a quick question, can i get either ghcid or ghcide to work with ihaskell? or am i just better off sticking with haskell-mode in emacs to setup/configure ihaskell in emacs-ipython-notebook?
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<NemesisD>
how do you all like to set up system packages and stuff in nixos? it seems weird to install with `nix-env -iA` because it doesn't get saved to a config anywhere. should i just be putting all my system packages in a nix file somewhere?
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<slack1256>
I just do `nix-env -iA`. I am fine without having a file that correspond to the current set of packages installed if I can rollback to a know saved state.
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @Quiark opened pull request #77967 → minetest: update to 5.1.0 and build on Darwin → https://git.io/JvkTU
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<danderson>
So, I'd like to use nix as a way of easily installing development tools per-project. As in, `cd` to a project's directory, run some command, and nix switches to a profile specific to that project. In that kind of setup, is there a way I can declaratively specify the packages I want?
<danderson>
I can wire this up with nix-env -i and some profile switching, but how do I make it reproducible for someone else?
<xa0[m]>
Make a shell
<DigitalKiwi>
maybe look at direnv/lorri with shell.nix
<danderson>
yes! Thanks all.
<DigitalKiwi>
<3 lorri
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<danderson>
lorri was made... for Target? What are they up to...
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<hoobershaggus>
anyone using nix-on-droid?
<hoobershaggus>
i am not looking for support i just think its a neat project
<xa0[m]>
Is there a way to make a post request through nix?
<xa0[m]>
I expect not but…
<wedens[m]>
why would you need that?
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<xa0[m]>
Fontello loader in webpack does a post request
<DigitalKiwi>
hoobershaggus: i have it on my phone but i don't do much with it other than use up all my space the other day when i tried to install some haskell stuff that it wanted to build :<
<hoobershaggus>
i was going to try setting up bitlbee on it
<hoobershaggus>
it works but i cant connect to it from anything other than the phone, android issue i guess
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<dansho>
,locate sc
<{^_^}>
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<tilpner>
That's how it would usually look like, with dev/nixpkgs/main being a nixpkgs checkout
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @LnL7 opened pull request #77972 → rustPackages: make rustc-dev optional → https://git.io/JvkYk
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<bennofs>
(import <nixpkgs/nixos> { configuration.fileSystems."/" = {}; }) would probably also work?
<tilpner>
(Actually, you don't need to define filesystems here)
<tilpner>
Yes, but my <nixpkgs/nixos> is not a nixpkgs checkout
<bennofs>
what makes the nixos func special?
<tilpner>
It calls <nixpkgs/nixos>, but doesn't give you the result directly
<tilpner>
Instead, it does result.config.system.build // result
<tilpner>
(It technically doesn't call <nixpkgs/nixos>, but close enough)
<tilpner>
See all-packages.nix:24945 for more
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<gwen>
Hi, I try to tackle issue #6414 and I managed to build the python interpreter with bluetooth support where `from socket import AF_BLUETOOTH` works.
<bennofs>
gwen: well, probably bluePython.buildEnv still refers to the original, unmodified python from nixpkgs. But hard to say what is wrong without any code, can you show the nix code you wrote for bluePython?
<gwen>
bennofs: Basically, what I did was to introduce a "bluetoothSupport" argument to pkgs/interpreters/python/cpython/default.nix, which included bluez / bluez.dev in nativeBuildInputs / buildInputs on demand.
<gwen>
I'll commit the code and push it into my local git repository, then you can quickly see the changes.
<Valodim[m]>
so nixos-in-place installs a nixos 16.09.
<Valodim[m]>
I expected to be able to upgrade easily from there, but after updating the channel, nix says it can't evaluate the nixpkgs because that requires nix 2.0, and informs me that on a nixos I should be able to fix that with nixos-rebuild
<Valodim[m]>
but nixos-rebuild fails with that exact warning
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<symphorien>
the easiest way is to upgrade one version by one version, 16.09 -> 17.03 -> 17.09 etc
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<Valodim[m]>
thanks
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #77974 → rage: init at 0.2.0 → https://git.io/JvkYb
<gwen>
Valodim[m]: I guess you could also try to install nix 2.0 from the newest repositories, maybe something like `nix.package = (with import <nixos-new> {}).nix;` in `configuration.nix` (where you would have one nixos channel for 16.09 and one nixos-new channel for 19.03)
<Ashy>
got a weird issues where firefox won't load any pages but chromium still does
<Ashy>
anyone seen this before?
<tilpner>
Valodim[m]: I've had more luck with the kexec method, and it doesn't come with the version problem
<tilpner>
Valodim[m]: Do you need to keep data from before the installation?
<Valodim[m]>
nope
<Valodim[m]>
I think I'll try one of the forks of nixos-in-place next time that start with a newer version
<tilpner>
Valodim[m]: If you have root on a standard Linux installation, you can use kexec to enter a live NixOS system where you can nuke any partitions because the current system is in memory
<Valodim[m]>
shame the upstream script isn't kept up to date
<Ashy>
ah it was one of my extensions, lastpass, ublock origin or firefox multiplecontainers
<Valodim[m]>
tilpner: ooh, sounds good. got a link handy for that?
<tilpner>
Valodim[m]: That's pretty similar to booting off a USB drive, but doesn't require physical access, which makes it great for servers. It can also be automated entirely
<tilpner>
Valodim[m]: If you use this with the format "kexec-bundle", you get an executable that drops you into a NixOS shell. You can configure it to have ssh enabled with your key pre-configured
<bennofs>
function that is passed to callPackage is reevaluated if you .override, so `self` is not recomputed and the package still uses the old `self` (which of course does not support bluetooth)
<Valodim[m]>
just fiddling around with nixos on a netcup server
<tilpner>
Ahh, kexec is perfect for cloud providers that don't offer NixOS
<Valodim[m]>
been using nix for a couple weeks now (since 36c3, to be exact ;) and so far I'm a happy customer :) so now I want to give it a shot on a server
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<gwen>
bennofs: Yeah, I was just about to write the same ^^ it works if I say `bluePython = python3.override { bluetoothSupport = true; self = bluePython; }` -- but it feels like there needs to be some mechanism that automatically updates `self`.
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<bennofs>
gwen: well, it the package used let self = stdenv.mkDerivation { } ... and not pass the self through the callPackage argument. Not sure why this isn't implemented that way, but I am also not familar enough with python packaging to know if there's some reason for the currrent implementation
<bennofs>
s/if the/it would work if the/
<Valodim[m]>
but man is this another instance of completely outdated documentation
<bennofs>
gwen: ugh, actually, since the default.nix set is not rec and there is a `with pkgs;` the line is equavilent to self = pkgs.python39 so it might be written this way to support some overlay use case?
<bennofs>
i guess customizing python interpreters without using an overlay is going to be a pain anway because of references to pythonPackages
<Valodim[m]>
generating a kexec bundle went smoothly :) uploading now
<pingiun>
is there a way to only reload nginx instead of restarting it when rebuilding my config?
<pingiun>
nginx will not start up again if I make mistakes in my configuration by accident
<tilpner>
Valodim[m]: Just be really careful around handling it, you wouldn't want to accidentally execute it on the wrong machine
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<kraem>
qyliss: thanks for your help the other day with doing a nixos-rebuild from my nixpkgs fork! i had to delete the
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<kraem>
i had to delete the sha256 from the nix file for it to throw an error and then run `nix-prefetch-url --unpack` to insert the hash
<Valodim[m]>
heh, indeed
<gwen>
bennofs: Yeah, I will look into overlays. It seems like although `from socket import AF_BLUETOOTH` does work with `bluePython.buildEnv`, I cannot use any packages from `bluePython.buildEnv.override {extraLibs = [...];}` in the interpreter
<k0ral>
trying to create a derivation for a python library + application that builds/installs using poetry + pyinstaller: https://github.com/pawamoy/aria2p/blob/master/Makefile ; am I supposed to write the complete build/install steps manually, or is there something from nixpkgs I can re-use ?
<kraem>
gchristensen: i've submitted a PR for facetimehd and i'm not sure if i need to update pkgs/os-specific/linux/firmware/facetimehd-firmware/default.nix - i've checked all variables and they seem to be the same in patjak's repo. what do you think?
<xa0[m]>
i have a zip file next to my default.nix, how do i use it as source for a derivation?
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<xa0[m]>
i really don't know how i'm meant to solve this and turn it into a derivation. nix won't allow me to make a POST request, so i can't turn this config file into a zip file using fontello's API, and I can't prefetch the zip file and load it alongside the nix config cause apparently that's horribly impure. so what do i do?!
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #77977 → pythonPackages.sysv_ipc: init at 1.0.1 → https://git.io/JvkOF
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @bennofs opened pull request #77978 → python: fix buildEnv passthru when using .override → https://git.io/Jvk3f
<bennofs>
gwen: ^^^ that should fix .override issue
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @bennofs pushed commit from @zaninime to master « svxlink: init at 19.09.1 (#76990) »: https://git.io/Jvk33
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<symphorien>
is there a way to make the network of nixos tests ipv6 enabled ?
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<emily>
dconf-editor is pretty hard to use in gnome because the schemas of most applications aren't in scope by default unless you add them to services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3.sessionPath, so the settings don't show up unless they're edited and even then have no documentation/etc... am I missing something that makes it work better?
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<sphalerite>
DigitalKiwi: what's the occasion for the ++?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @symphorien opened pull request #77982 → nixos/sslh: make it possible (and the default) to listen on ipv6, plus regression test → https://git.io/Jvksq
<sphalerite>
Raito_Bezarius: that won't work with placeholders, but I've found their use to be rare enough that it's not been a problem for me yet
<DigitalKiwi>
i'd like to think it was a team effort
<sphalerite>
DigitalKiwi: oh lol, I forgot. Glad it's still proving useful :D
<DigitalKiwi>
it might not be for much longer someone was talking about making a PR for nixos-rebuild --upgrade-all
<bennofs>
gchristensen: maybe try just 0? i have no idea if that works though
<hexa->
gchristensen: depends on net.ipv6.bindv6only
<hexa->
should be 0 though
<sphalerite>
DigitalKiwi: oh yeah, I guess in that sense I'm _not_ glad it's still helpful xD but yeah, just checked my logs, that was last March. So I think it's fair enough that I forgot :D
* DigitalKiwi
forgets what ate yesterday but remembers conversations from years ago
<Raito_Bezarius>
sphalerite: I see
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<bennofs>
we don't have callPackageWithSelf, do we?
<{^_^}>
yrutschle/sslh#161 (by pali, 2 years ago, merged): Ensure that IPv6 socket would listen only for IPv6 connections
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<pingiun>
is the nixos forum not running on nixos? why is there no discourse nixos module yet?
<sphalerite>
pingiun: because you haven't written one ;)
<bennofs>
nixos forum is hosted by discourse afaik
<Palpares>
hi. I have this bash script containing "echo 'hello world'". how can I package this as "hello" cmd ? sorry for this noob question but I haven't found such an example
<pingiun>
sphalerite: I might, I want to run it and I don't like docker
<pingiun>
bennofs: that makes sense
<sphalerite>
bennofs: yep
<sphalerite>
pingiun: That does seem to be a common reason for nixos modules being created ;)
<hexa->
gchristensen: Oof.
<sphalerite>
pingiun: that would be great, in any case!
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<Raito_Bezarius>
I'm using node2nix to get some Nodejs package and I have a global package, I build the derivation and pass it as buildInputs for some new derivation but it complains about not having the global bin in the path it seems like
<Raito_Bezarius>
When I do nix-shell, I have the desired global package but unsure if it's due to my env pollution
<Raito_Bezarius>
in $PATH, I don't see any reference to the buildInputs I referenced
<Raito_Bezarius>
but I see an env var buildInputs
<pingiun>
>The only officially supported installs of Discourse are Docker based.
<pingiun>
...
<Raito_Bezarius>
It's like buildInputs is ignored
<pingiun>
does a nixos module that just starts some dockers make sense?
<scheming_around>
If "attr" is an attribute set, what does the syntax "! attr ? ..." mean?
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<Raito_Bezarius>
*ah*, nativeBuildInputs sounds what I want rather
<sphalerite>
pingiun: I don't think so. It seems that discourse is a ruby-on-rails thing? It's doable to package that and get it running with a nixos module, but not a great deal of fun
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<adisbladis>
pingiun: We're running on a hosted discourse instance
<sphalerite>
pingiun: so I'd say either go with the official dockery method, or if you'r ereally hellbent on doing it more nicely, package it :)
<infinisil>
Pasting is then just `cat file.nix | ssh <host> pst nix` or I also have an alias so I can do `cat file.nix | pst nix` and it copies it into my clipboard
<DigitalKiwi>
i have a one line bash alias that just rsyns files to my server
<amf>
How do I find a package which has a certain file? In debian land I'd use their packages.debian.org interface to see where asoundlib.h lives
<clever>
DigitalKiwi: one thing i like about gist, is that you can just `git clone` a gist, to see all of the files and history
<bennofs>
ix.io is nice for plain pastes
<o1lo01ol1o>
clever: We moved our hydra cache to `s3` and a couple days later half the jobs fail with Aborted: file 'nar/hash_FooBar.nar.xz' does not exist in binary cache s3://Baz`. I emptied the bucket and collected garbage yestarday on the hydra server thinking that would rebuild things but we still have half our jobs failling. How can I figure out what's going missing?
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: when you moved it, files that where on hydra "disappeared" because they are not in the s3 bucket
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: emptying the bucket and GC'ing hydra itself, will only make things worse, because more things will be missing
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: nix uses these files, to track what nar's exist on a given cache
<DigitalKiwi>
15:22 clever: you can also use `gist -u <url> file.nix` to update an existing gist <-- heh I like to git clone them and git commit --amend --allow-empty-message
<symphorien>
amf: you can install this locally with nix-index/nix-locate
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: and if you start deleting things from the cache, it doesnt recover for a month, enless you delete the cache of the cache
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<DigitalKiwi>
clever: i like writing paste clients though :P
<o1lo01ol1o>
clever: I see. How can delete the cache of the cache?
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: `rm ~/.cache/nix/binary-cache-v6.sqlite*` as root, on every machine that is having problems
<o1lo01ol1o>
gotcha
<amf>
symphorien: thanks that is exactly what i wanted!!
<DigitalKiwi>
i should make a function that rsyns my .bashrc to all of the places it is!
<o1lo01ol1o>
clever: I have another question: the logs are now at `s3://foo/log/hash`; Is there a config I set somewhere to tell hydra where to get them from? otherwise no one can see the logs without having read access on the s3 bucket
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: hydra should still be generating links to those, and the bucket privs should be setup to allow reading any file
<o1lo01ol1o>
clever: right, ok. Is there a way to have hydra use `s3::/foo?profile=foo` to obtain the logs? I know that read witout list rights mean it's unlikely anyone will be able to generate a file hash but stil . . .
<scheming_around>
If "attr" is an attribute set, what does "attr ? ..." mean?
<clever>
o1lo01ol1o: you could just put s3:// into the prefix option i linked, but then you rely on the end-user being able to load s3:// url's in a browser
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<symphorien>
scheming_around: it is a boolean indicating whether attr has a attribute with this name iirc
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @Ma27 opened pull request #77985 → gcc: remove versions 4.9 and 5 → https://git.io/JvkWo
<myskran>
DigitalKiwi: IIRC you can do it by putting `history -a` in your prompt or something
<myskran>
I don't recall whether that also depends on any of the history settings you can set with shopt
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<myskran>
FWIW, I would guess your other question about removing failed commands *can* have a similar answer, but it could be a little annoying if not implemented well
<myskran>
you could check whether the previous command failed and then use `history -d` to remove it from your history list, but then you can't use the up arrow (or any other history-navigation keybind) to call up the text of the failed command to fix it
<myskran>
so from an experience standpoint what you'd probably want is to keep failed commands in your history list, but avoid saving them to (or retroactively filter them out of) your history *file*
<DigitalKiwi>
maybe if it saved a comment of the return status then at least i'd know
<myskran>
yeah
<myskran>
there are some history projects out there where people try to capture more information including status, but I don't know the details of each well enough to know if it does what you want by default or configurably
<DigitalKiwi>
i use fzf idk if that'd be relevant
<myskran>
you could accomplish it by taking over the process of loading and writing
<myskran>
so you could clear the HISTFILE, and in your rc explicitly load history from a file that you write to
<myskran>
and then, also take over the work of writing commands to it--but only successful ones
<myskran>
so errored commands would stay in history
<myskran>
er, in history's working/memory list
<DigitalKiwi>
that sounds like a lot of work
<myskran>
solving the issue of fixing the last command, and compromising on the chance of re-running bad commands by not having ones from previous sessions
<DigitalKiwi>
i don't actually care if a bad command is in my immediate history i don't have that much short term memory loss usually so maybe just w/e method can get rid of the bad ones
<myskran>
yeah
<DigitalKiwi>
sometimes i just put them in an alias i should be better about that
<DigitalKiwi>
or i have a help alias that tells me what commands i want
<myskran>
grin
<myskran>
I know hstr is fairly popular, ti might be worth lookiinig into whether ti has the features you want
<DigitalKiwi>
function nixhs-tip-adhoc() { echo 'nix-shell -p "haskellPackages.ghcWithPackages (pkgs: with pkgs; [mtl pandoc])"'; }
<myskran>
but history si a little odd because it's shell builtin behhavior
<myskran>
so "replacinig" history often means, "use an external command to browse your history"
<myskran>
yeah
<DigitalKiwi>
i have commands that append a text to my .bashrc to so it's easy heh
<DigitalKiwi>
too
<myskran>
I've been slowly picking on my own history system with the idea that at some point I'd like to be able to roughly bookmark and annotate old commands
<DigitalKiwi>
i know grammar i just don't know typing!
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<DigitalKiwi>
and apparently need an alias for rsyn=rsync
<myskran>
but I only have it up to the point where it's collecting commands in a database
<myskran>
ah yeah
<DigitalKiwi>
i keep a lot of notes
<clever>
> pkgs.sl.meta.description
<{^_^}>
"Steam Locomotive runs across your terminal when you type 'sl'"
<clever>
for when you mistype ls :P
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<DigitalKiwi>
i usually type alias lsa='$(which ls) -a --color=auto'
<DigitalKiwi>
have never typed sl
<myskran>
if you used a drop-in system of some sort that databases history and tracks whether the commands succeeded, you can also run a command on start-up to synthesize a history file for bash that only has successful commands
<myskran>
but that has some impact on startup time
<myskran>
which may or may not matter for you
<DigitalKiwi>
i'll just write good code
<myskran>
i guess another thing you can do is
<myskran>
if you are wanting to clear mostly mistypes that happen freqeuntly
<DigitalKiwi>
also i use emacs i don't care that much :P
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<DigitalKiwi>
well, sometimes, mostly vim
<myskran>
(apologies for my own typos; it's this macbook keyboard I haven't had timie to get serviced...)
<DigitalKiwi>
a good programmer blames their tools i think that's what they say
<myskran>
bt you can ues the 'HISTIGNORE' env to declare a pattern for commandns that won't go in the list
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<myskran>
I've jusut runu outu of emotional energy to fix the errors unless it's critical commuunicatoin; easier to apologize for it :)
<myskran>
so if that's what you're hoping to exclude, you can usue it to knock a lot of the usual bad ones out of the list (and also common commands that you never actually navigate back to run)
<myskran>
you could also make a lititle alias to nuke the last history item from the list, and exclude that alias itself with HISTIGNORE
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<shyim>
Can i rebuild my nix-store? I got broke it
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<supermathieu>
Howdy, I got a packaging question that I am not sure how to fix the "right" way. The source is packaged as a deb file, I am using autoPatchelfHook to know the dependencies. I have most of the dependencies met, but I have this issue. The package depends on libelf.so.1 however, nixos provides libelf.so.0.8.13. Now, I was tempted to simply create a symbolic link, but I was wondering, what would be a better approach?
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<evanjs>
I think I have confirmed it's somewhere on the X side. Partly due to the errors I'm seeing, as well as the fact that gpm seems to work fine from a tty
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<chloekek>
When a stdenv derivation defines outputs = ["out" "dev"]; how can I build the dev one with nix-build?
<chloekek>
nix-build prints the path to the out output.
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<chloekek>
Ah, .dev is what I need: pkgs.libsodium.dev.
<dontMindMeImJust>
nix-build -A dev I believe
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JvkBP
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<jeaye>
Every time I start a nix shell, I see `bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)`. Any quick fix for that?
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<wnklmnn[m]>
Hi, I noticed that when I run "nix-env --upgrade" the program nearly consumes 1.6gb of RAM is this behaviour to be expected?
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<tilpner>
,declarative
<{^_^}>
There are multiple ways of managing declarative profiles. 1) Attrset, compatible with imperative use of nix-env https://git.io/fAQHW ; 2) buildEnv, providing more control over the paths that are linked into the profile https://git.io/fp0aU ; 3) home-manager, providing nixos-like config for your ~ https://github.com/rycee/home-manager
<wnklmnn[m]>
tilpner so its usual that it uses that much memory. I just wasn't sure if I did something unusual
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #77991 → pypy: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JvkRm
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<Raito_Bezarius>
I have some pkg which does IFD and it seems like the resulting package after IFD is never cached, is it expected?
<Raito_Bezarius>
in particular, I do some node2nix fixed output derivation which *might* use network but I always know the resulting hash, then it produces the usual node package and I pass it as the final derivation
<Raito_Bezarius>
But the usual node package is never cached and the nix-diff tells me that my runCommand node2nix is changing
<Raito_Bezarius>
But the node2nix is always cached
<Raito_Bezarius>
"the set of input sources do not match"
<Raito_Bezarius>
FWIW, http://ix.io/27M3 here is my "dynamic node2nix" (this version is w/o fixed output derivation for testing purpose, but I suppose it should be the same basically, ?)
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<Guest85327>
hi all, I installed nixos on a new machine yesterday (having used it for a couple of years) and I'm running into a weird problem I've never had before
<Guest85327>
the path is completely screwed up in the x session
<Guest85327>
bash isn't on the path, so direnv throws out an error, and lots of things don't work
<Guest85327>
everything works perfectly in a tty however
<Guest85327>
I start a none+bspwm session via sddm
<Guest85327>
anybody have any suggestions about how to debug? it's driving me absolutely crazy
<worldofpeace>
Guest85327: 19.09?
<Guest85327>
unstable
<Guest85327>
i already tried switching to lightdm, with the same result
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<worldofpeace>
Guest85327: "bash isn't on the path, so direnv throws out an error, and lots of things don't work" What terminal are you using? And what's the output of `printenv PATH`
<Guest85327>
I use zsh; I set it as my default shell via the system configuration
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<Guest85327>
as for printenv PATH...printenv isn't on the path now -_-
<Guest85327>
hang on a sec
<worldofpeace>
Guest85327: can you paste that config somewhere for your shell?
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[nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @danielfullmer to master « zoneminder: Fix installation location for cgi-bin (#76855) »: https://git.io/Jvk0l
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<tilpner>
wnklmnn[m]: Not necessarily, it depends on what you use Nix for. I'm not intimately familiar with how nix-env --update works, but I vaguely remember it doing name-based matches for upgrades, which would mean it has similar performance properties as the nix-env search and installation without -A have
<tilpner>
wnklmnn[m]: That's why I linked ,declarative, those approaches could replace the usage of --update, and thus avoid the performance problems it might have
<noonien>
how can one uninstall all packages installed with nix-env?
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<noonien>
thank you
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<NoctisLabs>
I added `users.users.*.shell = with pkgs; bash_5;` to my config and when I run "bash --version" I'm getting Bash 4 still, how do I force Bash 5?
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<wildtrees>
NoctisLabs, have you reloaded your config yet?
<sameerynho>
hey folks, is it possible to use nix, stand alone as a package manager for a software ? I want to see if i can use it for my emacs bundle as a package manager
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<jackdk>
what do you mean be "stand alone"? Many people use it alongside an arch/ubuntu/fedora/macOS/... install
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<sameerynho>
jackdk: cool, i mean isolated from anyother thing
<sameerynho>
jackdk: i want to use it as a package manager for my Emacs bundle which installs internal and external dependencies and does not conflict with other package manager.
<sameerynho>
also user should not need any permissions
<DigitalKiwi>
you could make it only build/be supported on x86_64
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<mkg20001>
<DigitalKiwi "you could make it only build/be "> builder for '/nix/store/8mjdc8hz505aafygfv2v47qnhpdx1lpy-libinput-1.15.0.tar.xz.drv' failed with exit code 1
<mkg20001>
just need to restart the build then I guess
<mkg20001>
how do I do that?
<DigitalKiwi>
i'm not sure i think someone can trigger the bot for you
<DigitalKiwi>
i might even be on the list that could if i knew how >.>
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<HedgeMage>
Grr... Is there a good NixOS cheatsheet somewhere? I'm finding a bunch of things I commonly forget, coming from Gentoo, such as in this case the command to see what software was installed with "nix-env -iA $whatever" when I was testing things out so I can clean up and include some in my config while removing ones that shouldn't still be installed.