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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed commit from @alexarice to release-19.09 « mendeley: Use QT mkDerivation »: https://git.io/Jer0T
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<elvishjerricco>
clever: The deb file isn't at a publicly available URL, I have to login to a site and download the file manually.
<clever>
elvishjerricco: ah, id just use a local path then
<clever>
elvishjerricco: enless you can write a drv to auto-login, check the old factorio fetcher
<elvishjerricco>
clever: But then if I put that in my system config, then the config isn't totally reproducible on other systems unless I download the file on those systems as well
<elvishjerricco>
And I'm really against putting a password in a .drv :P
<clever>
elvishjerricco: builtins.pathExists
<elvishjerricco>
Oh that's a cool idea
<jackdk>
doesn't the java stuff have a "accept the license, and add this file to your nix store, then build" workflow? could you mimic that?
<clever>
jackdk: thats pkgs.requireFile, and it avoids needing the password
<clever>
though it still means you cant build until you fetch the file
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to master « mendeley: use wrapQtApp »: https://git.io/Jer0I
<clever>
elvishjerricco: the above example is a bit more complex, it changes nixos options, based on the presense of a file with secrets
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to release-19.09 « mendeley: use wrapQtApp »: https://git.io/Jer0L
<elvishjerricco>
Ok cool. Given that, is there a convenient way to turn a deb file into a NixOS package? Something that would preserve the `.desktop` file that comes with it?
<nh2>
clever: it's in static-haskell-nix with normal pkgsMusl, so I think that should not be a cross compile, not sure why it picks that ghc nevertheless
<clever>
elvishjerricco: you would have to patchelf things first
<clever>
elvishjerricco: search nixpkgs for dpkg, and youll find examples
<clever>
nh2: i think the musl thing is counted as a cross compile, so the native compiler is glibc
<elvishjerricco>
I'll probably just keep using `buildFHSUserEnv` like I currently do :P
<clever>
elvishjerricco: patchelf is much simpler
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<elvishjerricco>
clever: I think `pkgsCross.musl64` is considered a cross compiler, but `pkgsMusl` is just a different local system (IIRC)
<pie_>
given the regularity ebian imposes (i think?) makes me wonder if we could have an auto debian handler or somethjing
<elvishjerricco>
clever: I never found `patchelf` to be the simple way, even if it's probably the better way :P
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<clever>
nh2: if you can link a branch in a PM, i could look into it later, maybe tomorrow
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<nh2>
clever: ok, tomorrow is also better for me
<clever>
nh2: along with a nix-build command to reproduce things
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<gchristensen>
I'm getting this error: error: The unique option `environment.variables.XCURSOR_PATH' is defined multiple times, in: - /home/grahamc/projects/grahamc/nixos-config/devices/petunia/configuration.nix - /home/grahamc/projects/github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/config/shells-environment.nix. at git rev 7827d3f4497ed722fedca57fd4d5ca1a65c38256 but
<gchristensen>
/home/grahamc/projects/github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/config/shells-environment.nix. definitely doesn't set environment.variables.XCURSOR_PATH -- anyone seen this?
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<gchristensen>
worldofpeace: I used to do environment.variables.XCURSOR_PATH = [ "${pkgs.gnome3.adwaita-icon-theme}/share/icons" ]; -- is there a better approach now?
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<infinisil>
Ideally the values would get merged hmm..
<gchristensen>
(lib.mkForce obviously is an option, but maybe there is a better solution)
<worldofpeace>
gchristensen: You don't need to set this at all.
<gchristensen>
oh?
<worldofpeace>
You just need to add the package to systemPackages
<infinisil>
Ah, profileRelativeSessionVariables
<infinisil>
Nice
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<gchristensen>
does it work better if I put it in to system packages?
<worldofpeace>
environment.profileRelativeSessionVariables.XCURSOR_PATH, makes it so it actually looks for cursors that are installed
<worldofpeace>
We had nothing but terrible workarounds in display-managers for example so they could have proper cursors (wrappers!!!)
<worldofpeace>
gchristensen: I believe it should work as it was always intended if in systemPackages
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<gchristensen>
yeah, but say for example I go for the mkForce option, am I missing out on other good behaviors?
<worldofpeace>
might have to set XCURSOR_THEME though
<worldofpeace>
You couldn't use a cusor theme from your $HOME
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<gchristensen>
cool, then I'll stick to the mkForce :P
<worldofpeace>
we honestly need a theming module that can control cursor themes
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<infinisil>
worldofpeace: I'm not sure if nixos is the right place for that
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<infinisil>
Something like home-manager would be better suited
<colemickens>
Does anyone play around with OpenXR in NixOS? I'm trying to understand how the runtime part of it interacts with the Nix of it all.
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#71079 (by gnidorah, 4 weeks ago, open): Theming options for Gtk and Qt
<worldofpeace>
infinisil: There's already theming configuration in nixos though.
<infinisil>
Hm yeah
<infinisil>
I'm more talking about an ideal world
<worldofpeace>
I also don't really understand, why things that are `user scoped` shouldn't be in NixOS?
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<fifeefo>
What does "user-scoped" mean? Not a term I've heard before.
<infinisil>
worldofpeace: Because NixOS options can't be used by unprivileged users
<infinisil>
fifeefo: Just things users would configure in theyr $HOME
<fifeefo>
Thanks.
<infinisil>
Instead of system-wide
<worldofpeace>
infinisil: true, but I use the home-manager module as a nixos module in configuration.nix. so as a user of home-manager I need to be privileged.
<infinisil>
worldofpeace: Yeah, for single-user systems it doesn't make a difference
<infinisil>
But for multi-user and different distros it does
<infinisil>
E.g. home-manager works for unprivileged users on darwin
<worldofpeace>
right this is a bit tricky infinisil
<gchristensen>
I wonder if making git use python3 is as simple as changing it to use python3
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<worldofpeace>
infinisil: we do have users.users.‹name?›.packages. tbh, I wish home-manager function could be reimplemented into nixos.
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<infinisil>
home-manager can user users.users.<name?>.packages on NixOS to install stuff
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[nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #71510 → Add namespace support to Wireguard module → https://git.io/JeRId
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @Pamplemousse to master « pythonPackages.pefile: init at 2019.4.18 »: https://git.io/JerE2
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<worldofpeace>
your description has given me the same reaction as I'm having reading this now
<gchristensen>
lol
<worldofpeace>
"They might regard our age of open source ubiquity, volunteer communities, and Moore’s Law as historically significant. " Moore's Law is just sacred knowledge or something
<`_>
I'm having an issue with systemd-ask-password in regards to starting an openvpn client.
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<`_>
It seems when I run `sudo systemctl start openvpn-myvpn` it doesn't want to ask for a password. I'm assuming systemd-ask-password can't connect to my session
<`_>
When I initially added the client config to /etc/nixos/configuration.nix and ran `sudo nixos-rebuild switch` it did in fact ask me for a password for my key
<`_>
But after rebooting and manually attempting to start the client, I'm seeing it asking for the password in `journalctl -xeu openvpn-myvpn`
<`_>
Err sorry, seeing that in `systemctl status openvpn-myvpn`
<`_>
so it's asking for it at some point, just not in a way that I can interact with it.
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<chocopuff>
hi, i am not sure if this is a nix issue, but i didnt have this problem when the laptop was running Gentoo. New user here. For some reason, when I try to connect to my institution's eduroam network, not all sites would immediately load
<chocopuff>
google, bing, apple.com, would load, but some other sites like github would return a server not found error at first
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<chocopuff>
and after a few minutes, they would finally work. I have this issue on my desktop too, is this a DNS problem? I don't really understand networking and I wonder if I am potentially configuring anything wrong
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #73378 → nixos/gdm: make desktopManager.default work → https://git.io/Jerzq
<fendor>
No sure if really nixos related, but I have the problem that when closing my notebook, that it is not suspended and runs with 100% cpu usage. any idea on how to debug this?
<tilpner>
fendor: journalctl -eu systemd-logind is a start
<clever>
,profiling
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Use NIX_COUNT_CALLS=1 and/or NIX_SHOW_STATS=1 to profile Nix evaluation
<fendor>
tilpner, thanks!
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<lovesegfault>
It's been so long since the last unstable channel release
<fendor>
now I see messages like lid closed and lid opened without a sleep command in between, that sounds like a culprit?
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<tilpner>
fendor: Mine says "Suspening..." and "Operation 'sleep' finished."
<tilpner>
fendor: Do you not have those?
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<fendor>
not always.
<fendor>
just sometimes
<tilpner>
(I should note I have no idea how to debug this, it's always just worked)
<tilpner>
But you do want to check /etc/systemd/logind.conf for odd values you forgot you set
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<sgraf>
Hey folks, I have this .deb package that runs python3.7 which dlopens glibc and needs it to be version 2.28. Nix currently bundles 2.27. I'm using `autoPatchelfHook`, so basically all I'm asking is how to locally override glibc's version to 2.28 for `buildInputs`
<immae>
fendor: if it works intermittently, you may have the same "issue" as me: sometimes when I do actions linked to logind (closing lid, pushing the shutdown button, ...) too quickly - say less than 15s -, he forgets to suspend when I close the lid, could it be that you’re in that situation?
<sgraf>
Just overrideAttr doesn't work, it will rebuild 2.27...
<fendor>
immae, maybe, it often happens when I just close the lid and not explicitly lock the screen
<fendor>
In my logind.conf, HandleLidSwitch=suspend looks good
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<immae>
Maybe it is overriden by your window manager?
<immae>
(if the behavior is different when you’re locked or not)
<tilpner>
fendor: What DE are you using?
<fendor>
tilpner, kde, plasma5
<tilpner>
Apparently there are systemd events for suspension
<immae>
do you have the possibility to try a "smaller" one (like xfce or even smaller), just to check the hypothesis?
<tilpner>
If you can hook into those, you might be able to tell if it's trying to suspend but failing, or just not trying to suspend
<fendor>
immae, yeah, I can just switch desktops
<tilpner>
${glib.bin}/bin/gdbus monitor might help with that
<fendor>
tilpner, there should be no fancy configuration, the only customizations I did were in kde settings
<melleb>
Hi all, I'd like to build my first 'real' derivation for NixOS. It's an Eclipse-based application, which comes bundled with it's own java binary. Does anyone know how to approach this?
<tilpner>
fendor: I don't know if I'm being helpful, but the login1 dbus API has a ListInhibitors method
<ctp>
I tried few different approaches to redefine the let block to refer the overlay but failed. Anyone has a hint for me? The emacs-overlay README says:
<ctp>
So emacsWithPackagesFromUsePackage is the key, but how? :D Not that new to Nix* but still didn't make click in my head when it comes to such things ...
<fendor>
now I cant reproduce it with either discord running or not running
<tilpner>
:/
<mojjo>
Does anyone have experience with https://github.com/input-output-hk/haskell.nix?I followed the example for a stack project. I'm using lts-14.12 (for ghc 8.6.5). I wonder why nix builds eeeeverything from scratch with GHC 8.4.4?
<tilpner>
mojjo: Did you see the cache section in that readme?
<fendor>
notebook was put to sleep in each test
<fendor>
tilpner, alright, now I can look at it at least! thank you, I will come back when I can reproduce it somehow :D
<immae>
fendor: you might want to simply monitor the processes to know which one takes 100% cpu, that could give a hint
<tilpner>
atop is an option for that monitoring, but there isn't necessarily a 100% cpu process
<immae>
(I think it happens somewhere in kde, since I have a list similar to yours apart from this one)
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<fendor>
immae, maybe it only runs hot, because when I open the lid again, the notebook is very hot, but there is no process that takes 100% cpu
<immae>
tilpner: Hmm fendor first message was that there was a cpu at 100%, wasn’t it?
<immae>
ah
<immae>
ok sorry I misunderstood
<mojjo>
tilpner I added the binaray cache as described. After that.. build logs that it's using the cache.. but still the same.. building& building....
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<fendor>
immae, yeah, I know, there was a similar bug before, where the screen wasnt locked and the touchscreen somehow opneed dozens of system monitors
<fendor>
but this hasnt actually happened
<immae>
ok
<fendor>
no, I did say it, my mistake
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#72791 (by petabyteboy, 1 week ago, open): Postfix policyd-spf issuing traceback on incoming mail, mails being falsely rejected
<wucke13>
pbb: I second your opionion regarding the serverity. Email servers are somewhat critical...
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<chreekat_>
nix-prefetch-git doesn't include 'ref' in its output, but I usually want it for builtins.fetchGit. Is there some other tool that does add it, or should nix-prefetch-git do it?
<dminuoso>
I would like to split my postfix.nix into several nixos modules to split the configuration into several domain specific bits, such as `postfix-tls.nix`, `postfix-milter.nix`, `postfix-sasl.nix` etc.
<dminuoso>
Now, what's a reasonable way to share some attrset `maps = { ... }` between them all?
<alexarice[m]>
dminuoso: you could make a readonly option
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<alexarice[m]>
dminuoso: Not using nixpkgs types I believe
<alexarice[m]>
There is a home-manager type for it I think
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<dminuoso>
Mmm. Fair enough, Ill just use types.unspecified then
<dminuoso>
I mean in this particular use case the types are silly anyway, because I first declare the option and then 3 lines below it Ill define it as readonly.,
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<exfalso>
Hi, what's the appropriate way to filter out directories that don't contain any non-filtered files using builtins.filterSource?
<exfalso>
All examples I've enconutered so far include *all* directories, but this invalidates the nix cache whenever an unrelated directory is added
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<chloekek>
Is there a YAML equivalent of builtins.parseJSON?
<adisbladis>
chloekek: No there is not.
<chloekek>
Thanks.
<chloekek>
Then I finally have an excuse to convert these YAML files to a sensible format. :)
<Twey>
chloekek: There's JSON and now TOML
<chloekek>
An Nix!
<Shoubit>
You can always look at Dhall, and then you can convert to either, plus also directly to Nix.
<chloekek>
Yeah I currently have a script that parses the YAML and generates Nix, but it would be nice if there were just one step instead of two, i.e. read the data directly in the Nix language.
<adisbladis>
chloekek: You could also abuse IFD
<ar>
chloekek: json is not a sensible format
<ar>
it's underspecified
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[nixpkgs] @cptMikky opened pull request #73389 → pythonPackage.ovirt-engine-sdk: init at 4.3.3 → https://git.io/Jerrj
<adisbladis>
ar: Certainly more sensible than yaml
<ar>
adisbladis: notso sure about it
<chloekek>
adisbladis: what is IFD?
<chloekek>
Oooh neat.
<adisbladis>
,IFD chloekek
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chloekek: import-from-derivation (IFD) is when you evaluate nix from a derivation result, for example `import (pkgs.writeText "n" "1 + 1")` will evaluate to 2. This is sometimes problematic because it requires evaluating some, building some, and then evaluating the build result. It has been described as "such a nice footgun."
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[cabal2nix] @peti pushed to master « fltkhs: expand the obsolete 'libGLU_combined' alias »: https://git.io/Jerof
<adisbladis>
chloekek: esentially you could do something like: `lib.importJSON (pkgs.runCommand "blah.json" {} "${pkgs.remarshal}/bin/remarshal -i ${somefile.yaml} -o $out")`
<adisbladis>
I don't remember all the remarshal params, so they are likely incorrect
<chloekek>
Thanks! I will try this.
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[nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #73379 → mpv: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JerzV
<mikky>
hey, I'd like to test this PR (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/73307 not mine) but I'm not sure how to install the package to cups. I can build it, got in in the nix store but obviously cups doesn't register it
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<exfalso>
unrelated question: is there a reason for fixed output derivations to be cached on the output hash? wouldn't it be better if they were cached on the output hash+input src? This way we wouldn't need to do the fiddlydo with the hash when we change something
<mikky>
symphorien: I don't know is how to add a locally-built package there, that's what I meant
<symphorien>
ah
<WilliamHamilton>
could someone recommend me a graphical tablet that works well under nixos? The main use for it would be screen-sharing a notepad on which I can draw to illustrate ideas when coding remotely
<symphorien>
because `pkgs.` is defined as `import <nixpkgs> {}` and <nixpkgs> itself expands to some path where nix-channel cloned nixpkgs
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<mikky>
symphorien: that actually makes sense :)
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[nixpkgs] @eadwu opened pull request #73398 → nvidia_x11: i686bundled only on i686 systems → https://git.io/JeriO
<mikky>
symphorien: had to add (import ... { config.allowUnfree = true; } )
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<symphorien>
ah yes makes sense
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<DigitalKiwi>
WilliamHamilton: do you have a price range you're looking for
<WilliamHamilton>
DigitalKiwi not over 100$, but as I'll use it occasionally I hope something in the ~50$ vicinity
<WilliamHamilton>
DigitalKiwi but I really don't know that market, so I accept suggestions
<DigitalKiwi>
hmm, i don't have first hand experience, but i've seen some people using wacoms i think (the irc logs are in the topic so might be worth a shot if nobody answers) and there are drivers in nixpkgs
<DigitalKiwi>
a friend always recommends me the monoprice one but i don't know if/what drivers it needs or if it just works on linux
<DigitalKiwi>
when i looked at it the monopriced one is good price and good tablet much cheaper than comparable wacom
<jhoff>
hi guys, got a problem, I'm trying to create docker image using `dockerTools.buildImage` while using `fetchgitPrivate`, this is the output: https://pastebin.com/cHydUn4L
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[nixpkgs] @kylesferrazza opened pull request #73403 → mattermost: fix path in desktop file → https://git.io/JerP4
<jhoff>
oh wow, looks like its working !
<jhoff>
@adis
<jhoff>
@adisbladis thanks!
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<adisbladis>
jhoff: Sweet :) Np
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @eadwu to staging-next « mesa: 19.2.3 -> 19.2.4 »: https://git.io/JerPE
<Ariakenom>
hm I have autologin enabled but no default desktop or window manager. it seems to be working fine, the manual says you need those
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<jhoff>
@adisbladis got confused because it was running on macos, but the binary was built with macos dependencies (like `Security`) and than docker image can't run due to incompatible binary
<exfalso>
i'm completely dumbfounded by a bug. nix-daemon SIGKILLs certain users' shells when they invoke nix-env -i, but only those users. I tried with a completely fresh NixOS installation, and can reproduce the kill. The only thing that seems to affect whether the kill happens.. is the *name* of the user. I could reproduce with a user named 'c'. I straced both nix-env and nix-daemon and it seems the kill happens
<exfalso>
right after nix-env instructs nix-daemon to build the user-environment derivation. Does anyone recognize any of this?
<exarkun>
does nix-copy-closure support resuming interrupted transfers? doesn't seem to. does `nix copy` or something else?
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<exarkun>
failed to download 5cnbq72lgp7n618wxxf8n2n85n6vgdsv-raspberrypi-kernel_1.20180619-1.tar.gz to my local network about five times already
<exarkun>
would be really nice to have something that knows how to resume from where it was interrupted
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @fadenb to release-19.09 « davmail: 5.2.0 -> 5.4.0 »: https://git.io/JerDS
<texasmynsted>
sigh. I guess that would be a good place for a multi-user isntall
<texasmynsted>
should I delete it and then re-install?
<clever>
its probably fine
<texasmynsted>
okay
<texasmynsted>
Thanks again
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<qyliss>
ahh, Matrix
<clever>
and we got matrixed again
<fifeefo>
Somebody took the red pill, bad move.
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<tbenst>
apologies for the dumb question: how can I find the .drv file for a given store path? I know it says during build but there must be another way?
<Twey>
nix-store --query --binding (-qb) is one that it took me far too long to discover…
<fifeefo>
When a Nix package is installed on a non-NixOS distro, what command can be run to list that package's installed files (paths)?
<clever>
fifeefo: i usually just build it with nix-build, then ls that directory
<Twey>
fifeefo: ls -R /nix/store/*-package?
<Twey>
fifeefo: What do you mean by ‘installed’ exactly? With `nix-env`? If so it's a symlink: ls -R $(readlink $(type -P package-command))/..
<fifeefo>
Twey: ew :-( There must be better tooling that that, surely nix knows where it installed stuff without searching the store. :P
<clever>
fifeefo: nix-build
<fifeefo>
Tewy: Yes, nix-env --install
<Twey>
fifeefo: Ah, then just look at that symlink
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<tbenst>
so here's a weird question. I just pulled the latest nixpkgs and suddenly my build platform in various .drv changed from x86_64-linux to i686-linux when using nixos-rebuild
<tbenst>
and they fail
<rossabaker>
Is the best way to install NixOS from a 5.x kernel to use another distro and lustrate? I'm surprised `boot.kernelPackages` isn't doing the trick.
<Twey>
fifeefo: In Nix every package is installed under its own prefix. So you can find all the files installed by a package just by looking at that package's install prefix.
<clever>
tbenst: do you have 32bit dri or pulse enabled?
<clever>
rossabaker: you can get a 5.x iso image
<fifeefo>
But where is the symlink? When I install an executable I know to look in ~/.nix-profile/bin, but package names that are not executables?
<clever>
fifeefo: run `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A packagename`
<tbenst>
clever, yes I have `driSupport32Bit = true` in hardware.opengl which I believe is required for nvidia-docker
<clever>
2019-11-07 01:13:37< clever> rotaerk: that is the linux 5.3 iso image, for the current build of nixos-unstable
<clever>
rossabaker: ^^
<clever>
tbenst: that will build all of your opengl drivers in i686-linux mode
<fifeefo>
clever: Will that build something? I don't need it built, it's already installed in the store with nix-env --install.
<rossabaker>
clever: Ah, nice. I'll give that a shot. I tried following https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Creating_a_NixOS_live_CD, and I could see it depending on a 5.3 package, but it still booted to 4.19.something.
<clever>
fifeefo: if its already built, it wont build it again
<Twey>
fifeefo: There's also `nix-env -q --out-path <name>` if you really want to use the package name.
<fifeefo>
Thanks, I'll try both of those ideas.
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[nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed to staging-next « treewide: CAML_LD_LIBRARY_PATH may be undefined »: https://git.io/Jerys
<Twey>
fifeefo: `nix-env` basically does two things (over `nix-build`): goes searching the store for packages with the given name (unless you use -A, which is faster and better) and manages your user profile (the tree of symlinks under ~/.nix-profile)
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<fifeefo>
Twey: I'd hppily use the prefix, if I knew it. But all I know is the package name that nix-env installed. Of course I could rummage around in the store looking for related paths, but that's not tooling, that's rummaging around. :P
<clever>
fifeefo: what exact nix-env command did you use to install the package?
<Twey>
s/the store/nixpkgs/
<fifeefo>
clever: nix-env --install packageName
<clever>
fifeefo: and what did you use for packageName?
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<fifeefo>
clever: the output of nix search packageName, which confirmed that my guess of packageName was right.
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<clever>
fifeefo: and what package was that?
<Twey>
Does `man nix-env` lie? It says (about --attr-path/-P): Print the attribute path of the derivation, which can be used to unambiguously select it using the --attr option available in commands that install derivations like nix-env --install.
<fifeefo>
synapse, the Matrix homeserver, but the question is generic, not specific to that one.
<Twey>
But if I say `nix-env -qP xmodmap` I only get `6 xmodmap-1.0.10`
<clever>
fifeefo: nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A synapse && ls -lh result/
<clever>
tbenst: ah, ive noticed the exact same error on my hydra
<tbenst>
fails on building xorgproto
<tilpner>
fifeefo: synapse is not a Matrix HS
<clever>
tbenst: i have my hydra configured to pre-build my nixos config against the latest nixpkgs
<clever>
so i can see breakage before i try to upgrade
<tbenst>
clever, clever
<clever>
> synapse.meta.description
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"Semantic launcher to start applications and find relevant files"
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<tbenst>
what's the latest nixpkgs that isn't broken for you?
<clever>
> synapse.meta.longDescription
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"Semantic launcher written in Vala that you can use to start applications\nas well as find and access relevant documents and files by making use of\nthe Zeitgeist engine\n"
<exarkun>
I tried downloading that archive 7 times, it failed several hundred megs in every time
<exarkun>
so I can't finish the rpi3 update
<exarkun>
what should I do
<tilpner>
fifeefo: I was just correcting "fifeefo | synapse, the Matrix homeserver"
<Twey>
exarkun: Rather than `nix-copy-closure`, how about just downloading the file with rsync or curl or your favourite resumable download manager, then using `nix-store --add` to manually put the file in the store?
<tilpner>
In case you expected something else to be there
<clever>
Twey: nix-store --add doesnt work with anything that has dependencies
<exarkun>
Twey: aha!
<Twey>
clever: From the sound of it, they just want to get this particular source file so the build can proceed
<exarkun>
a fixed output source archive derivation shouldn't have any dependencies, right?
<fifeefo>
tilpner: Ah righto, cheers. But the question was generic, any package, including whatever an unadorned "synapse" refers to.
<exarkun>
I'm downloading it with rsync now, I'll try `nix-store --add` when it's done, thanks
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[nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed commit from @Taneb to master « intecture-cli: use openssl 1.0.2 »: https://git.io/JeryX
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<kim0>
I've tried learning more about nix packaging .. I find the entry barrier, still too high! Can anyone recommend an easy to follow tutorial
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<lordcirth>
kim0, could you specify what you are trying to package? Eg a Go module, program with ./configure && make, etc?
<tbenst>
kim0: honestly, I'd recommend cloning nixpkgs & reading some derivations. Use the manuals to lookup things you don't understand
<fifeefo>
kim0: Still trying to find a good workflow myself. Maybe we need a rosettacode type of site, showing equivalents to other package manager workflows.
<kim0>
I just want to feel more comfortable with nix .. I'm not looking to package something specific
<fifeefo>
Most people only use half a dozen or so pkg manager commands in their daily workflow, like package discovery by name (that's easy since "search" is a nix subcommand), discovery by regex on description, discovery by a known component (eg. executable or lib). And then the install command, a command to find out what version is installed and what versions are available, a file lister for an installed package, and not a lot
<fifeefo>
else.
<fifeefo>
A bit surprising that those aren't on the 1st page of the manual. :P
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<fifeefo>
Speaking of manual, nix itself doesn't have a man page.
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<tmplt>
Any idea what derivation yields /nix/store/<hash>-gcc-8.3.0-lib? Can I get it from stdenv.cc somehow?
<jumper149>
Hi, im trying to write a derivation and in my builder I call gcc with -I and -L to include library paths but I dont know how to give the right paths
<clever>
jumper149: if you add something to buildInputs and use the stdenv, it will handle -L and -I for you
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[nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #73381 → luaPackages.luasystem: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/Jerge
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[nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @marsam to master « luaPackages.luasystem: fix build on darwin »: https://git.io/JerSV
<jumper149>
I guess I'm not using stdenv then because Im getting include errors from gcc
<clever>
jumper149: use buildCommand, rather then builder
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<jumper149>
is there a manual to mkDerivation where I can check out all the options?
<clever>
jumper149: it should be in the nixpkgs manual
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[nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @JohnAZoidberg to master « protocol: 20171226 -> 2019-03-28 »: https://git.io/Jer9s
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<jumper149>
I got my derivation working now, but Im not sure why^^ the program consists of a python script and other stuff but python is not given anywhere as a dependency. Is it only working because python is in my users path?
<clever>
jumper149: probably, thats why i never install things like python, so such programs fail during development
<jumper149>
oh I just checked python isn't even in my path
<fifeefo>
Is there an alternative way of specifying the argument to nix-build '<nixpkgs>' without the angle brackets? It's a bit unfriendly in shell scripts, I'd have to treat it specially.
<clever>
jumper149: read the generated script that your running, what does it do?
<clever>
fifeefo: as long as you quote it, things should be fine, shellcheck will complain any time you dont quote things like that
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[nixpkgs] @jitwit opened pull request #73419 → chez-matchable: init at 1.0 → https://git.io/Jer9u
<fifeefo>
clever: Passing quoted fields through shell scripts is messy. It can be done, but best avoided. I guess that command was designed by a non-Unix person.
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<jumper149>
clever: It is a python script with the HashBang: #!/usr/bin/env python
<clever>
fifeefo: its based on things line #include <foo.h> in c/c++
<fifeefo>
Eeeek.
<clever>
jumper149: does it still look like that after you nix-build it? read the file under result
<jumper149>
#!/usr/bin/env python3 to be exact. yes thats in the result path
<clever>
jumper149: what does `type python3` report?
<jumper149>
i get the nix-store path
<clever>
jumper149: then your in a nix-shell?
<jumper149>
but in another shell it doesnt find anyting
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[nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed commit from @jansol to release-19.09 « renderdoc: 1.4 -> 1.5 »: https://git.io/Jer9w
<jumper149>
no Im in bash both times
<clever>
jumper149: what direnv?
<jumper149>
clever: what do you mean with direnv? somewhere in my homedirectory
<jumper149>
clever: yes ty, I really should read chapter 6 (stdenv) of the nixpkgs manual thoroughly. It seems like everything is explained there and i couldve avoided a lot of trouble!
<clever>
jumper149: you probably also want to use fetchFromGitHub, rather then fetchurl
<jumper149>
clever: good point I will fix that
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[nix] @Ma27 opened pull request #3228 → Fix attr path to nixpkgs flake in flake template → https://git.io/JerQs
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[nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #73425 → mathematica: fix version issue with zlib → https://git.io/JerHr
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[nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @herberteuler to master « mathematica: fix version issue with zlib (#73425) »: https://git.io/JerQG
<raboof>
when I add `programs.gnupg.agent.enable = true` to /etc/nixos/configuration.nix and switch, should the right gpg-agent be automatically started?
<clever>
This command is available only when the build option CERT_CMD is enabled.
<CMCDragonkai>
i'm thinking... that ipxe "by default" is meant to get the ipxe ca cert downloaded during runtime, and the build doesn't actually enable this
<CMCDragonkai>
the nixpkgs build in particular
<CMCDragonkai>
clever: i see... it seems like an oversight, perhaps a PR to the ipxe.nix derivation to enable this?
<clever>
CMCDragonkai: probably
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<clever>
CMCDragonkai: but if people can mitm your ipxe script, your hosed
<CMCDragonkai>
well that's why i want use HTTPS
<clever>
CMCDragonkai: the example in not-os is signing the ipxe script itself, so the only risk is the ipxe binary
<CMCDragonkai>
but i thought it would first easy to do with the public certs
<clever>
CMCDragonkai: but how does ipxe get that https url?
<CMCDragonkai>
instead of private certs
<CMCDragonkai>
I embed it
<CMCDragonkai>
my custom ipxe script embeds the https url
<clever>
ah
<clever>
CMCDragonkai: not-os/ipxe.nix has a full example of private certs and signing the files, rather then the whole http
<CMCDragonkai>
clever: why didn't you use overrideAttrs?
<CMCDragonkai>
clever: the nixpkgs manual says that's what is meant to be used nowadays
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<clever>
CMCDragonkai: this code predates the creation of overrideAttrs
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<CMCDragonkai>
If I run `certstat`, I get all the public certs that was embedded though
<inkbottle>
infinisil: I did programs.ssh.startAgent = true; and nixos-rebuild switch; but I still have the same error. Should I have to reboot or something?
<clever>
inkbottle: try logging out and then logging back in
<infinisil>
inkbottle: What does `systemctl --user status ssh-agent` say?
<infinisil>
Relogging or `systemctl --user start ssh-agent` might do it
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<inkbottle>
infinisil: OK, after using the "start" command, the agent is active; but `ssh-add -D` still says "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent"
<infinisil>
Ah it probably needs an env var
<inkbottle>
So I might try a relogging
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<infinisil>
Yeah
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<inkbottle>
infinisil: reloggining did it
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<aranea>
Hmm, Nix should make it pretty easy to have binaries linked against glibc and musl coexist on the same host, right?
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<clever>
aranea: yes
<clever>
aranea: ive even had arm and x86 binaries co-exist
<aranea>
(Background: I'm thinking of migrating to NixOS from a musl-based distro, and while I don't mind going back to glibc for the immediate future, I'd like to work on moving back to musl eventually.)
<aranea>
And if I could just work that out one package at a time, that'd be awesome.