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<hyperfekt> can anyone who can actually read makefiles and isn't just taking blind stabs help me figure out how i can avoid linux-pam's dependency on a browser that itself transitively depends on linux-pam? i'm trying to package a version with the redhat modules.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fjSH8
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<{^_^}> hyperfekt: Please expand your question to include more information, this will help us help you :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gcv opened pull request #65617 → Allow GnuPG1 to build on all platforms. → https://git.io/fjSH2
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<DigitalKiwi> that was awfully sentient of {^_^}
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<craige> Is there anyone lurking who runs NixOS on Linode with encrypted disks?
<craige> My lack of Google foo is leading me to believe I'm pioneering a problem when I expect there are others who've gone before me.
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<hr[m]> Does anyone know how I can source a file into ~/ using home-manager/a user defined nix file in nixpkgs, currently I'm using `xdg.configFile."hammerspoon".source = ../../de/darwin-only/hammerspoon;` but that places the files in ~/.config/hammerspoon
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<infinisil> hr[m]: You seen the home.file option?
<hr[m]> no, I thought I could find something with google but I couldn't. That sounds like the right option.
<hr[m]> It works, thanks.
<infinisil> Google isn't very useful for nix things most of the time
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #65618 → pwgen_secure: init at 0.9.1 → https://git.io/fjSQT
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<ivan> craige: I've done it elsewhere, what are you doing
<ivan> my telepathy says you're using grub to boot but it doesn't support secrets
<craige> Heya Ivan.
<craige> Building a luksencrypted filessytem on linode and installing NixOS on it but at boot grub returns "prefix not set" - trying to narrow down the cause of that.
<ivan> do you have an unencrypted /boot and boot.initrd.{network,availableKernelModules} set up?
* craige nods
<craige> and after each failed boot, /boot's FS is corrupted.
<ivan> did you see any warnings in the nixos-rebuild message output?
<craige> Clean as a whistle.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @changlinli opened pull request #65619 → ls4: init at 1.0 → https://git.io/fjSQs
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<craige> On the plus side, I'm starting to memorise my 36 character encryption password.
<ivan> I've seen that message before but only in a "situation fubar" way that I know little about
<Ashy> craige: `echo "correct battery staple horse" | wc` 29 chars
<Ashy> lulcky
<Ashy> :P
<ivan> craige: does unencrypted install work on linode?
<craige> It has for me in the past.
<ivan> craige: you might need to copy kernel boot options out of the install that linode does like which tty to print messages to
<craige> I've got a copy of that and it's replicated in the boot process. I'll have to review it again though, triple check as my last tweak just failed :-D
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* craige disappears for lunch. Thanks ivan!
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<ashkitten> hmm
<ashkitten> Can't open portal file chooser: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface “org.freedesktop.portal.FileChooser” on object at path /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop
<ashkitten> in firefox
<ashkitten> worldofpeace: maybe you might know what this is?
<gchristensen> I think this was reverted on master
<worldofpeace> ashkitten: resolved on master to my knowledge
<kalbasit> I'm trying to setup a Rasberry-Pi but I don't have a Serial console cable (uart). I flashed the default image (https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/trunk-combined/nixos.sd_image.aarch64-linux) and I can't seem to power HDMI it goes away right after kernel boot. Where can I disable console/enable hdmi so I can enable SSH on it?
<ashkitten> worldofpeace: what commit? i'm on 239fffc90d7
<worldofpeace> #65449
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65449 (by worldofpeace, 3 days ago, merged): nixos/xdg: disable portals (again, again)
<worldofpeace> fixed yesterday
<worldofpeace> if you do what https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65449/commits/1b21c9db91e41c1773ea55c328d03013ac4e3327 does manually you should be good
<worldofpeace> (if you don't want to update)
<hyper_ch> hmmmm, Qt/KDE still broken on unstable
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<ashkitten> worldofpeace: thanks, worked
<worldofpeace> hyper_ch: related to this?
<worldofpeace> (because I tested that in a VM)
<hyper_ch> worldofpeace: it's an issue I'm having
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #65621 → nfpm: init at 0.12.0 → https://git.io/fjSQw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to master « nixosTests.flatpak-builder: enable portals »: https://git.io/fjSQy
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @HugoReeves opened pull request #65622 → Added github.com/schollz/croc derivation → https://git.io/fjS7L
<hr[m]> The above is my first PR to nix. It includes a new derivation for the golang file sharing program croc. If you have a moment could you please give it a quick check, just three file changes.
<simpson> hr[m]: Three things. First, cool! Thanks for contributing to nixpkgs. Second, you have a syntax error in your PR, which is why ofborg is warning that your PR has failing checks. Third, please be patient, and don't be disheartened if your PR isn't merged right away.
<simpson> Oh, I guess four things: magic-wormhole is already in nixpkgs, if you happen to need this functionality *right now* and can't wait~
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<hr[m]> simpson: Thanks for the quick reply. I'm happy to be patient. I just fixed the error, so hopefully the error will go away. I'm not in need of croc urgently and up until now I've just been compiling it with go on new systems.
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<simpson> hr[m]: No worries. The quick reply is precisely because you otherwise may not hear anything for a while.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #65605 → zerotierone: 1.2.12 -> 1.4.0 → https://git.io/fjSXs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #65475 → sequoia: init at 0.9.0 → https://git.io/fjyVb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #65381 → gh-ost: update platforms → https://git.io/fjDpd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS7y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #65579 → plata-theme: 0.8.7 -> 0.8.8 → https://git.io/fjS8x
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS79
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #52728 → Palemoon 28.3.0 (from binary tarball) → https://git.io/fhJ7J
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #51161 → palemoon: 27.9.4 -> 28.2.1 → https://git.io/fpgp1
<Ashy> anyone going to linux.conf.au 2020?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #39060 → error message honores nested dots in attribute path elements → https://git.io/vpUZa
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* craige expects to be there, Ashy
<craige> I usually am.
<Ashy> nice, i havent been to one yet
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<craige> 2017 was the best ever ;-)
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<craige> It's a pretty damn good conference. I always go for the full week, as the pre-conference events are pretty good.
<Ashy> wonder if anyone will do some nixos talks
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<craige> If the CFP was a few months later, I'd have submitted some.
<craige> My material's not ready yet and the CFP closes soon, if it hasn't already.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #65055 → lipx: init at 1.2 → https://git.io/fj1xq
<Ashy> they just extended it for two weeks according to lwn.net
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<craige> \o/ not enough time for me, unfortunately.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64948 → nixos/xserver: Make radeon in videoDrivers an alias for ati. → https://git.io/fj1L5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS7A
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #64353 → gimp-with-plugins: Fix build errors with exiv2-0.27.1 → https://git.io/fj6dS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64121 → nixos/programs/shell.nix: don't use unnecessary GNU-specific option → https://git.io/fjKoL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS7j
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64056 → Delete build-node-package.nix → https://git.io/fjK03
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS5e
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #63777 → nixos/undervolt: fixes ExecStart formatting → https://git.io/fjrug
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63629 → mopidy-iris: 3.38.0 -> 3.39.0 → https://git.io/fjw3J
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS5T
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #63522 → vscodium: Symlink backwards-compabible `vscodium` executable → https://git.io/fjVlP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth reopened pull request #65043 → perlPackages: update → https://git.io/fj1Fr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #62919 → networkmanager_strongswan: 1.4.4 -> 1.4.5 → https://git.io/fjgTa
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #65624 → networkmanager: 1.18.1 -> 1.18.2 → https://git.io/fjS54
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #60904 → networkmanager: match pre-meson pre-upgrade behavior more closely → https://git.io/fjS5B
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #65618 → pwgen-secure: init at 0.9.1 → https://git.io/fjSQT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjS5K
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vyorkin opened pull request #65627 → ocamlPackages.secp256k1: init at 0.4.0 → https://git.io/fjS51
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra closed pull request #3015 → nix-channel man: lib.nixpkgsVersion -> lib.version → https://git.io/fjS9g
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<DariusTheMede> I am trying to build a package which checks for the prescence of another library (lapack)
<DariusTheMede> To do this it builds a little executable and checks the return code
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<DariusTheMede> I am trying to see what I get when it builds inside nix: https://gist.github.com/steinitznavican/e0b45a5dc0fa3ce8123dfa144d4a9d8a#file-default-nix-L33
<DariusTheMede> But this fails
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<DariusTheMede> I mean the executable fails to build
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<DariusTheMede> Any advice on how to debug this would be much appreciated
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xrelkd opened pull request #65628 → parity: 2.4.9 -> 2.5.5, parity-beta: 2.5.4 -> 2.6.0 → https://git.io/fjSdw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #65608 → makemkv: modernize derivation → https://git.io/fjSMU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjSd6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar merged pull request #65374 → Bazel: clear markers completely → https://git.io/fjDNl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #65614 → Remove unneeded CMake flags → https://git.io/fjSSX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 6 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjSdS
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<layus> Got a strange question: Is wrapGAppsHook supposed to be a buildInput or a nativeBuildInput. Both are used just as frequently
<symphorien> Iirc there is an issue where you have to put it in both
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @endocrimes opened pull request #65629 → nomad: Upgrade to 0.9.4 → https://git.io/fjSFn
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<joko> Hey, is anyone having problems with open/save GTK dialogs? I get msgs in Firefox like the following: "Can't open portal file chooser: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface “org.freedesktop.portal.FileChooser” on object at path /org/freedesktop/portal/deskt"
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<ivan> joko: maybe related to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65449
<{^_^}> #65449 (by worldofpeace, 4 days ago, merged): nixos/xdg: disable portals (again, again)
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<layus> symphorien: any references ?
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<joko> ivan: I think you're right, that should have been my issue, thanks!
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<{^_^}> #56943 (by emmanuelrosa, 20 weeks ago, open): setup hook of gobject-introspection in nativeBuildInputs does not run with strictDeps
<layus> DariusTheMede: that definitely a case that is easier to debug with nix shell. The issue seems to be unrelated with building the executable. A directory is not found in your error log
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<layus> symphorien, thanks !
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #65101 → mako: 1.3 -> 1.4 → https://git.io/fjMq7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjSF1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar merged pull request #65584 → pythonPackages.tensorflow: Hardcode a second search class. → https://git.io/fjSBj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar pushed commit from @c00w to master « pythonPackages.tensorflow: Hardcode a second search class. (#65584) »: https://git.io/fjSNJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #65568 → gpxsee: 7.9 -> 7.11 → https://git.io/fjSl3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ivan opened pull request #65633 → chromium: 75.0.3770.80 -> 76.0.3809.87 → https://git.io/fjSND
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ivan closed pull request #65013 → chromium: 75.0.3770.90 -> 75.0.3770.142 → https://git.io/fj1V1
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<hyperfekt> Alright, I managed to package the Red Hat modules for PAM. Should I make a PR to upstream or are they not generally regarded as useful?
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<ivan> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65633 uh how do I know where the merge conflict is
<{^_^}> #65633 (by ivan, 12 minutes ago, open): chromium: 75.0.3770.80 -> 76.0.3809.87
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<ivan> oh yeah apply the patch to master locally
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<Taneb> Can Hydra handle a build with hydra-build-products on different store paths?
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<tazjin> has anyone built any profiling tools for Nix?
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<__monty__> Could someone help me find the infinite recursion in this derivation I'm trying to write? http://ix.io/1Q8S
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<__monty__> I also have an overlay for this which uses callPackage but a nix-build seems to indicate the infinite recursion is in the derivation not the overlay. Unless the derivation being in the overlays directory is a problem?
<{^_^}> nix#2782 (by grahamc, 13 weeks ago, open): Track function start and end
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<yorick> __monty__: use super.callPackage, not self.callPackage
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<__monty__> Already am.
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<yorick> nothing in here would cause an infinite recursion
<__monty__> I think the problem was the derivation being in the overlays directory. But now I get undefined variable nixpkgs.
<wpcarro> Can anyone help me debug what I believe to be a linux kernel issue? My laptop keyboard stopped working and only works in BIOS. I've tried rolling back versions, but that doesn't restore the behavior. Now I've tried change kernelPackages from `4.19` to `4.18` and now `4.4`. Still nothing is working. Anyone have any troubleshooting ideas? I've tried
<wpcarro> `xev`, `evtest`, `sudo hexdump /dev/input/by-path/*-kbd` and a few others... nothing is firing
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<tazjin> yorick: cool, thanks, I'll try that. The link to the flamegraph example is down unfortunately, but it might go in the right direction
<__monty__> I guess, nix-shell -p doesn't do what I thought it does? Seems to work with nix-build.
<yorick> wpcarro: does it work in your boot loader?
<yorick> wpcarro: did it work earlier on these linux versions?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #65634 → jellyfin: 10.3.6 -> 10.3.7 → https://git.io/fjSAf
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<wpcarro> It worked earlier. Yes. Which is why I thought rolling back versions would restore it.
<wpcarro> yorick is the boot loader the view where I choose versions? If so, yes the arrow keys work there
<yorick> wpcarro: okay, does it work on a live us with another distro?
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<wpcarro> yorick I haven't tried that yet. I don't have any other live USBs available
<yorick> wpcarro: "Restart your computer, when it is on the black screen with 'Dell' written on it, hold the F8 key until it turns on" (of course it hasn't to be "Dell").
<wpcarro> yorick haha I saw this yesterday on a Windows 10 forum
<wpcarro> I tried it... nothing seemed to happen. I have an Acer and tried holding when it said "acer" but nothing appeared to change
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<yorick> wpcarro: does the touchpad work?
<wpcarro> yorick yes until I try to type something. After which point, it breaks
<xorAxAx> ah
<xorAxAx> can you ssh into your machine?
<xorAxAx> and check the kernel log output
<wpcarro> xorAxAx I can input text with a USB keyboard
<xorAxAx> or like that
<wpcarro> that's how I've been using it so far
<xorAxAx> boot, login with usb keyboard, press an internal keyboard key, run dmesg|tail
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<ivan> konsole in master seems to have weird rendering bugs where it shows old content
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<__monty__> yorick: The infinite recursion was definitely due to having it in nixpkgs/overlays. I'm not quite sure why `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A karabiner-elements` works while `nix-shell -p karabiner-elements` doesn't though.
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<sphalerite> __monty__: what does the overlay look like?
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<__monty__> sphalerite: self: super: { kar-elems = super.callPackage ../kar-elems/default.nix {}; }`
<sphalerite> __monty__: hm ok, and what does the "header" for kar-elems look like?
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<__monty__> sphalerite: That's in the paste: http://ix.io/1Q8S
<sphalerite> weird. Does just `nix-shell -p` work with the overlay?
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<__monty__> Yep.
<yorick> should timers.target be part of basic.target instead of multi-user.target?
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<yorick> maybe my backup script should depend on multi-user.target
<nihh> I'm trying to alias an option config.foo.bar as config.bar; config.bar = mkAliasDefinitions options.foo.bar errors with The option 'bar' does not exist
<yorick> nihh: options.bar = mkAliasDefinitions options.foo.bar
<yorick> (I want to boot up the system without loading all the services that fail when it doesn't have state)
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<nihh> yorick: documentation for the function on github seems to be wrong then :S
<nihh> After doing options.bar = .. is there anything else I need to do?
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<__monty__> sphalerite: Doh, nvm, was actually doing `nix-shell -p *nixpkgs*.kar-elems` /facepalm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #65594 → universal-ctags: 2018-07-23 -> 2019-07-24 → https://git.io/fjSEe
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<siraben> How do I tell Nix to delete all packages except for the ones specified in a configuration file?
<siraben> and install the ones specified in the file.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #65628 → parity: 2.4.9 -> 2.5.5, parity-beta: 2.5.4 -> 2.6.0 → https://git.io/fjSdw
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<Miyu-chan> That sounds just like configuration.nix for me.
<Miyu-chan> Based on how I understand what you need, you just have to nix-build it and add a gc root.
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<siraben> ah found it, it was nix-env -f file.nix -i --remove-all
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<wpcarro> xorAxAx thanks for the debugging tip. Sorry for the delayed response - was in a meeting. Trying `dmesg | tail` now
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<niso> does pkgs.writeScript automaticly download it's dependencies?
<gchristensen> Nix always automatically fetches dependencies which are required
<hyperfekt> But if you use programs in that script you'll have to add them to its derivation as inputs.
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<wpcarro> xorAxAx doesn't appear to have any pertinent information unfortunately
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @layus opened pull request #65656 → gpx-viewer: avoid generating a mime database → https://git.io/fjShF
<niso> means a script with the line: ${pkgs.cowsay}/bin/cowsay "somthing" # can infer that pkgs.cowsay is a required input?
<etu> niso: yes
<gchristensen> you bet!
<etu> niso: or rather, pkgs is the required input
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<etu> niso: having that line in a string will make cowsay a dep for that derivation
<niso> sweet, thanks! gchristensen etu
<niso> by chance someone knows where it's implementation is?
<gchristensen> the implementation of cowsay, or the implementation of strings having dependencies?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fjSjT
<niso> the implementation of writeScript
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 2 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjSjk
<niso> ahhh in nixpkgs, makes sense. thanks! :)
<gchristensen> yep!
<gchristensen> (the idea of strings having dependencies is an idea ingrained in Nix)
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<mdash> I'm having trouble with `nixos-container` -- it seems like `nixos-container start foo` hangs for a while, during which the contaner is up and functioning, but then it exits killing the container
<mdash> the logs show normal startup followed by "Start operation timed out. Terminating."
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<averell> what does systemctl say? anything in the journal?
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<averell> journalctl -u container@foo or something like that
<mdash> yeah, that's where I'm seeing it
<mdash> i'll pastebin it
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<mdash> so, it seems like it's not detecting successful startup
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<averell> yes, how was this container configured?
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/49ac77d07eb (from 24 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.03-small)
<averell> ah, the postgres service didn't come up. i suppose that might be the trigger.
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<mdash> mmh, didn't realize I was so dependent on color coding in systemd startup :)
<mdash> thanks, that's more obvious now...
<gchristensen> color coding isn't just to be cute!
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<averell> i tried --output cat but then only the NixOS line is colored :( how sad
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut opened pull request #65660 → gnupatch: CVE-2019-13636 → https://git.io/fj9eF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut opened pull request #65662 → iptables: CVE-2019-11360 (release-19.03) → https://git.io/fj9vI
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<xorAxAx> wpcarro, no new lines after you have "broken" the keyboard?
<Miyu-chan> Nixops doesn't create a gcroot by default, right?
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<gchristensen> Miyu-chan: on the local system?
<Miyu-chan> Yep.
<gchristensen> right
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<Miyu-chan> Mkk. Thanks.
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<wpcarro> xorAxAx I don't understand the question. `dmesg` says nothing about a "broken" keyboard
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bendlas pushed to master « anbox-modules: 2018-09-08 -> 2019-07-13 »: https://git.io/fj9v9
<xorAxAx> wpcarro, i meant by broken that the keyboard does not work anymore
<wpcarro> xorAxAx oh sorry now I understand. Yes no new lines are logged
<xorAxAx> ok, weird
<wpcarro> In fact, I'm pretty sure that the kernel isn't handling any of the scancode events
<wpcarro> I'd like to troubleshoot the "drivers". Are drivers the same as kernel modules? Something like `lsmod`?
<wpcarro> I'm pretty green with OS stuff
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<wpcarro> Does anyone know how to update drivers on NixOS?
<infinisil> Pretty sure most drivers come with the kernel
<symphorien> Try a more recent kernel
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<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar merged pull request #96 → Call for Content: 2019/11 → https://git.io/fjoLf
<manveru> is there a way to avoid a rebuild when i have `"${./some}/file"` and another file in the directory changes?
<gchristensen> how about ${./some/file}
<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar pushed to master « Call for Content: 2019/12 »: https://git.io/fj9fs
<das_j> ${./some} will include the entire directory into the build
<manveru> the "/file" part comes from another variable :)
<das_j> ${./some/file} will only include that one file
<gchristensen> ${./some + "${var}"} maybe
<niso> manveru: incase you are interested: https://github.com/hercules-ci/arion/issues/65
<{^_^}> hercules-ci/arion#65 (by paumr, 4 hours ago, closed): environment.systemPackages ignored
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<manveru> gchristensen: you're my hero once again :)
<manveru> gchristensen++
<{^_^}> gchristensen's karma got increased to 131
<gchristensen> w00t :)
<domenkozar[m]> #11 - Nixery, nixfmt and Cachix releases, NixCon 2019 tickets, a job and first impressions post
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/11 (by garbas, 7 years ago, closed): gimp 2.8
<niso> by chance someone can tell me why this is a bad idea? http://paste.debian.net/1093729/
<niso> (beside the fact that it currently errors out due to a permission error)
<gchristensen> where is the problem
<gchristensen> I don't see a problem :)
<niso> gchristensen: thanks, then i'll continue trying to get it to run :)
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<imuli> is cache.nixos.org giving errors on IPv6+https (but fine on http or IPv4) for anyone else?
<sphalerite> imuli: yes
<Dagger> $ curl -6s https://cache.nixos.org/ | pup title text{}
<Dagger> cache.nixos.org is up
<gchristensen> at this point I'm wondering if we'd be doing better by just disabling ipv6.
<Dagger> that much seems to work for me, at least
<gchristensen> I'm in the process of scheduling a meeting with some people at Fastly to try and understand the problems a bit better
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<Dagger> do share if you find out, because I couldn't get my head around the explaination I saw last time
<gchristensen> there are a number of problems
<Dagger> and I have quite a few v6-only machines, so I do care about v6 working
<gchristensen> but one of them has to do with a popular modem which doesn't have a standards compliant ipv6 implementation and sends RST packets
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<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen++ (disabling it)
<{^_^}> gchristensen's karma got increased to 132
<gchristensen> no, that is probably not a valid idea :(
<DigitalKiwi> :(
<DigitalKiwi> honestly though i haven't been having as much trouble lately idk what's up
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<DigitalKiwi> then again i also don't upgrade as frequently as i used to sooo
<gchristensen> first things first, though: ipv6 is not the cause of all the problems we're seeing, so the first step is getting more info about what is gonig wrong
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<niksnut> yeah I don't think we should disable ipv6
<gchristensen> yeah, I didn't really mean it
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<hyperfekt> it'd be awesome if the fastly problems could get fixed, i really wanna be a fan of theirs
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<mgdm> Fastly have confused me for a while
<mgdm> I think they use a lot of Varnish, because their errors are clearly supposed to say 'Guru Meditation' which is the Amiga-inspired error that Varnish presents
<mgdm> but their one is typoed to 'Guru *Mediation*'
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<Taneb> That's when you have an argument with someone and get a guru to resolve the dispute
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<mgdm> :D
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<cransom> fastly is varnish all over. all the configuration is in vcl/varnish config language.
<gchristensen> yeah
<gchristensen> some problems are config. some problems are their network design.
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<pietranera> https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2019/07/31/2 icedtea_web: "CVE-2019-10182 and CVE-2019-10185 are considered High, since they can easily be used to take over the client before checking signatures. All versions of icedtea-web are believed to be vulnerable." The email points to a PR on GitHub that hasn't been yet merged though.
<enteee> vagrant with winrm does not seem to work, i suspect a missing ruby dependency. Can somebody confirm this? https://pastebin.com/zQXT5imN
<pietranera> meant to post this on #nixos-security ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ThibautMarty opened pull request #65671 → urh: add PlutoSDR support → https://git.io/fj9J8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut opened pull request #65672 → pango: CVE-2019-1010238 → https://git.io/fj9J0
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<ottidmes> question about NixOS on ZFS, I just followed several guides about it understanding most of it, but one thing I found unclear was why do pool/root/nixos and not pool/nixos? For example this guide: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS
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<srhb> ottidmes: I've found that it really only matters depending on the kind of option inheritance you want
<srhb> (Like, inheriting everything from root to root/nixos and root/foo etc.)
<colemickens> How does one do string interpolation with paths?
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<srhb> colemickens: Like any other string interpolation :)
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<colemickens> I need to use a non-quoted path for an import to get around absolute path requirements but I can't seem to do that when I need to concat the path with a variable?
<gchristensen> ./foo + "${bar}" might work
<colemickens> I had been doing `import "${home_code}/overlays/${name}"` but I'd rather do something like `import ../overlays/${name}` but that doesn't seem to work?
<srhb> Or "${./foo} + ${bar}"
<srhb> er...
<srhb> no plus, just concat :P
<colemickens> gchristensen: okay, will try
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @disassembler closed pull request #59216 → [18.03] binutils-wrapper: Try to avoid adding unnecessary -L flags → https://git.io/fjt50
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<ottidmes> srhb: ah ok, guess I will just make it pool/nixos for my next system then
<srhb> ottidmes: Yeah. My main concern now isn't even options but whether I have sufficient datasets for the various snapshotting rules I want :)
<srhb> For instance, I explicitly don't care about /nix/store but do care about other parts of /nix...
<marek> what is the difference between staging and staging-next?
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<ottidmes> srhb: I have setup some datasets thinking I might need them in the future for snapshots, but I only used snapshots for my ZFS drives that are used to store my backups
<srhb> ottidmes: Backups! Yes.. I should get some of these...
<ottidmes> the NixOS installer available for download on nixos.org is just installation-cd-graphical-kde.nix right? My laptop fails to boot with my custom LiveCD, but the one from nixos.org does work
<ottidmes> srhb: just curious, wouldnt you want the whole of /nix to be snapshot, wouldn't otherwise e.g. the database get out of sync?
<srhb> ottidmes: it's whatever's in nixos/release.nix's attribute iso_graphical iirc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xaverdh opened pull request #65676 → android-file-transfer: fix building with qt → https://git.io/fj9Jb
<srhb> ottidmes: Yes, but I don't actually care about that so much as various profile links. the db I can recreate.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lheckemann closed pull request #60799 → swig: 3.0.12 -> 4.0.0 → https://git.io/fjZx5
<srhb> And my store moves too quickly for me to want to snapshot it really.
<srhb> ssd wear fear :P
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<ottidmes> my SSD is 8 years old, but I probably have less intense usage, so far I am just lucky with no drives failing on me ever
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<srhb> I think I'm just a paranoid scrooge really.
<srhb> It's probably no biggie.
<srhb> But they're soo expensive :|
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<ottidmes> well, they have gotten to be a third of the price since I bought them, so I cannot complain too much about them being expensive
<srhb> I guess that's true..
<wildtrees> how do I list all the versions of certain packages I have installed in nixos? nix-env -q packageName just seems to name the current one
<srhb> wildtrees: Your best bet is probably the manifest file
<srhb> Which is what -q with no arguments will also show
<wildtrees> srhb, oh, where is that?
<wildtrees> oh thats what I meant
<srhb> /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/wildtrees/manifest.nix
<srhb> Oh
<srhb> I misunderstood your question then
<srhb> You mean previous versions?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @disassembler merged pull request #62026 → libtool2: enable parallel builds → https://git.io/fjB9p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @disassembler pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/fj9UT
<srhb> You can explore the manifest files from older profiles then.
<wildtrees> like I think I have multiple ghc's floating around and need to get rid of them to free up some space
<srhb> or just... ls /nix/store | grep ghc :P
<srhb> wildtrees: Why not garbage collect?
<wildtrees> how do I remove them/garbage collect them
<wildtrees> i did
<wildtrees> still probably not enough space
<wildtrees> might need to resize my partition
<srhb> Then they are still rooted somewhere
<srhb> You can't/shouldn't make more space by manually deleting them, breaking Nix integrity.
<srhb> but sure, you can find them in the nix store, find out what they are rooted by, get rid of the roots and then gc again
<srhb> If you have not deleted your old profiles that might be all :)
<infinisil> For finding roots: nix-store -q --roots /nix/store/...
<srhb> *ghc*. Might take a while if your store is like mine xD
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<srhb> Oh, not so bad actually..
<wildtrees> yea I thought 25 gigs with 8 gigs taken out for swap would be enough space for a barebones install maybe with a few programming languages inx nixos, it is not for like haskell!
<infinisil> sudo sqlite3 -noheader -csv /nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite "select path from ValidPaths where path like '%ghc%';"
<infinisil> Or this :)
<srhb> wildtrees: ghc is really amenable to enabling store hardlinking.
<srhb> wildtrees: Lots of identical files in different store paths that need not take up extra space :)
<wildtrees> i have like 3 versions of it in the store it seems!
<srhb> wildtrees: try nix-store --optimize if you want to see what you can save
<srhb> --optimise even
<srhb> wildtrees: I have 96. :-P
<wildtrees> how much space should I give to nixos for haskell development?
<wildtrees> also do you happen to know how to build a package from a nix file without running the tests for every package it requires
<wildtrees> ?
<srhb> For development where I switch a _lot_ between versions I like to have like 50G.
<srhb> wildtrees: I also use the hardlinking, plus I have my store compressed.
<srhb> wildtrees: (right now it's 140G compressed, 280 uncompressed approx)
<wildtrees> sounds quite massive
<srhb> wildtrees: If you want to dontCheck for all haskell packages, you may want to override mkDerivation. I think it's in the nixpkgs manual
<wildtrees> does compression slow it down alot?
<srhb> wildtrees: Yes well, I like to trade space usage for less download and build time :)
<srhb> wildtrees: I don't even notice it. Maybe it's even faster?
<wildtrees> crazy
<srhb> wildtrees: Fewer bytes to suck out of slow storage, just let the cpu pick up the slack, I guess is the logic...
<wildtrees> i am running nixos in a 1 vcpu 1 gig of ram vm on my windows machine atm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg opened pull request #65677 → frog: Fix build (icu64 -> icu60) → https://git.io/fj9UY
<srhb> ouch...
<srhb> ghc is not known for doing well under memory constraints :P
<srhb> infinisil: Neat!
<srhb> infinisil: We should package a nice little read-only tool for doing queries like that free-form.
<srhb> :3
<srhb> Though I guess sqlite is pretty close in itself...
<infinisil> Yeah, but a readonly thing would be nice
<srhb> Yeh.
<infinisil> I don't want to accidentally update the db
<infinisil> But sqlite doesn't seem to have such a mode
<srhb> read-only bind mount?
<srhb> Is that even a thing..
<srhb> It should be I guess.
<infinisil> I believe sqlite wants write permissions to the file
<infinisil> Not sure
<srhb> Meh :(
* infinisil checks
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<infinisil> srhb: Ah no it works :)
<srhb> neat!
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<infinisil> srhb: Oh well actually
<infinisil> It only works if the directory the db.sqlite file is in is writable
<srhb> We could just copy it out somewhere temporary..
<srhb> But meh, maybe not that useful.
<infinisil> Yeah kinda meh
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<colemickens> Seems like any sort of string quotes makes it violate the absolute path requirement
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<colemickens> oh wait, might be a different line, oops
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @1000101 opened pull request #65682 → pythonPackages.shamir-mnemonic: init at 0.1.0 → https://git.io/fj9UK
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b978a94c8f9 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.03-small)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @1000101 closed pull request #65682 → pythonPackages.shamir-mnemonic: init at 0.1.0 → https://git.io/fj9UK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @1000101 opened pull request #65683 → pythonPackages.trezor: 0.11.3 -> 0.11.4 and pythonPackages.shamir-mnemonic: init at 0.1.0 → https://git.io/fj9UM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #63865 → dockerTools: use skopeo on the right platform → https://git.io/fjosI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj9Tv
<Izorkin> How to need to merge PR #63355 ?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63355 (by Izorkin, 6 weeks ago, open): mariadb: 10.3.15 -> 10.3.17
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<colemickens> is there a sort of panic() or other unreachable expression I can use if I'm in an else block that shouldn't be reached?
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<colemickens> I guess for now I can just use `else (import ./you-must-vendor-overlay-imports);` and let that error pop out :)
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<stites> My /etc/hosts file seems to be blocking `nixos-rebuild build`s. I think it's trying to run this file, which is pretty weird
<__monty__> Are you sure it's not trying to replace that file?
<__monty__> And not doing it to prevent loss of data?
<stites> I am trying to replace it, but i get weird errors
<stites> if i remove etc/hosts I get: `error: getting status of '/etc/hosts': No such file or directory`
<__monty__> Maybe it's systemd? It manages that file for me. And doesn't like me touching it.
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<stites> mmmm!
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<stites> I guess I could turn off networking, but I'm not sure how to tell if things have been changed around
<stites> in full disclosure, I did move the /etc/hosts folder...
<stites> ...yeah, but moving the symlink back seems to have no effect -- nix tries to read and run /etc/hosts as if it was a nix script
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<stites> I know it's trying to run it because ` sudo bash -c ' echo "127.0.0.1 localhost" > /etc/hosts ' && nixos-rebuild build` returns an `error: undefined variable 'localhost' at /etc/hosts:1:11`
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<__monty__> stites: What does your expression for the file look like?
<stites> I've actually commented it out
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<stites> I've also tried `environment.etc."hosts".text = "";`
<tilpner> stites: /etc/hosts folder? Did you mean file?
<tilpner> Or symlink
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<stites> It's just a file right now. Usually it's a symlink to /etc/static/hosts
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<stites> (I meant "file" not "folder" from before)
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<tilpner> I am curious what causes the error, but what are you trying to accomplish in the first place?
<tilpner> Can you try to "rm /etc/hosts; nixos-rebuild switch"?
<tilpner> ,paste
<{^_^}> Use a website such as [ https://gist.github.com/ http://ix.io/ https://hastebin.com/ http://sprunge.us/ https://paste.ee/ ] or similar services to share anything that's longer than a couple lines.
<stites> I'm just trying to switch configurations. One sec...
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<tilpner> I'll need to see your configuration
<stites> ah! okay, progress
<stites> I just nuked my entire config
<tilpner> O.o
<stites> and I'll build up from there
<tilpner> How long have you been using NixOS?
<stites> haha, a while
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<tilpner> I don't think I could just nuke all my config files :c
<tilpner> Another way of getting information about the cause would be to pass more -v
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<stites> I just commented out all of my imports -- it seemed to work
<tilpner> Binary search the culprit!
<stites> yup!
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<stites> okay, this is very weird but I have to run to a meeting in a minute
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<andi-> Does the stdenv have something to merge two directory trees? Say I want to move files (recursively) from $out/bar to $out/foo but $out/foo might already have a few directories and additional files?
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<stites> symlinkJoin?
<qyliss> andi-: I would use a tarpipe for that, if you don't want symlinks
<andi-> I prefer moving them around :-)
<andi-> mhm tarpipe
<qyliss> I've seen tarpipes in nixpkgs before (and maybe written one)
<infinisil> I bet there's an rsync invocation that would merge two directories
<pingveno[m]> Wow, I'm really liking Flatpak for packages that are difficult to get playing nice with Nix's filesystem layout.
<__monty__> rsync --ignore-existing.
<pingveno[m]> ApacheDirectoryStudio in my case.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #65686 → WIP: enable `__structuredAttrs` in `stdenv.mkDerivation` → https://git.io/fj9Tx
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<tazjin> ouch, nixpkgs has a bunch of packages with case sensitive names (i.e. if you normalise their names to, say, lowercase you get duplicates): https://github.com/google/nixery/issues/14#issuecomment-516986107
<qyliss> oh no
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<tilpner> Exists in source data, I would expect nixpkgs to reflect that
<tazjin> yeah, I assume they all have a reason
<tazjin> it's just an issue because the registry protocol for container runtimes doesn't allow uppercase characters (thanks docker)
<tilpner> The ugliest hack I can think of is to put an escape sequence in there that makes the next character uppercase
<tilpner> But let's pretend I never said that
<tazjin> I did think of that but it's the furthest away from "intuitive"
<tazjin> most users will probably try lowercasing after they get an error about uppercase characters
<tazjin> so it might make sense to support that anyways, despite not having a 100% success rate
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<tazjin> there are some of those in `perlPackages` and `pythonPackages`, too ... probably more
<tazjin> emacsPackages is clean though :smuggo:
<yorick> tazjin: I have my doubts about your url -> nixpkgs package mapping. is this ever going to be useful for deployment?
<tazjin> I've successfully deployed my blog and some other small software with it in a k8s cluster
<tazjin> so, yes
<yorick> tazjin: huh, how does that work?
<tazjin> in fact this casing thing is the only hiccup I've run into so far
<tazjin> you can run Nixery inside of a kubernetes cluster and then use it as the local package registry
<tazjin> and additionally you can point it at a custom Nix repository (e.g. one that overlays your own packages over nixpkgs) and then you get the ability to add arbitrary software in there, esp. useful if your company already uses Nix
<yorick> I see how nixery is useful for custom-service that have entry points and volumes and other stuff set
<yorick> but how does having arbitrary packages in a docker image help, by building on it using dockerfiles?
<tazjin> but entry points & volumes & whatever are just metadata, if you're deploying into kubernetes those are all available through the API anyways
<yorick> ah!
<tazjin> example for how it helps with arbitrary stuff:
<tazjin> I had to deploy `ngrok` at a previous job, inside a k8s cluster
<tazjin> with no special magic
<tazjin> so I had to get alpine (or something), install the thing in there, upload the image, download the image ... and so on
<tazjin> with nixery you can just go `image: nixery.appspot.com/ngrok` and that's it
<tazjin> actually you currently can't because I've not allowed unfree packages on the public instance :eng101:
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<tazjin> I'm planning to do a NixCon talk about this with examples, that will probably clear it up :)
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<scoates> hello; I'm attempting to run nix on MacOS Catalina and I have a /nix but since my last reboot, the / filesystem is read-only. Is there a document I can read on how to get out of this mess? (-:
<{^_^}> nix#2925 (by mroi, 7 weeks ago, open): /nix will not be writable on macOS Catalina
<scoates> thanks. I'll read
<niso> does nix usually set a channel during installation?
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<djahandarie> If you have a derivation (which is a fetchgit), how do I create another derivation which is just a subdirectory of that one?
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<chloekek> Say it's called foo. Then you can do it like this: stdenv.mkDerivation { name = "bla"; phases = ["installPhase"]; installPhase = ''cp -R ${foo}/subdir $out''; }
<chloekek> You can also make a symlink if that works for you, is more efficient.
<djahandarie> Thanks. I take it that means there's no shortcut for this operation?
<chloekek> I have no idea, I only ever use stdenv.mkDerivation :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vitaliy-zinchenko opened pull request #65687 → gnupatch: update links to patches → https://git.io/fj9k7
<infinisil> djahandarie: Do you need it to be a new derivation? Because "${the-derivation}/subdirectory" will also give you a path to its subdirectory
<djahandarie> It's the input into 'src' for buildRustPackage
<djahandarie> I think that means it needs to be a derivation, I'm not sure just a string would work...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lsix opened pull request #65688 → qgis: 3.4.8 -> 3.4.10 → https://git.io/fj9If
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<gchristensen> printing out the Nix manual produces like five short paragraphs per page, it has comically large font
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<chloekek> src can be a path, doesn't have to be a derivation.
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<maralorn> I tried to install https://github.com/Synthetica9/nix-linter. Via it‘s default.nix which contains a pinned nixpkgs version. Never-the-less it fails to build because of broken hnix-0.6.1. Does that make sense?
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<maralorn> Hm, kinda makes sense as it says on github the build is broken and the ci has the same problem as I.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #65675 → gitlab-runner: Fix prebuilt hash → https://git.io/fj9JH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj9I0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #65683 → pythonPackages.trezor: 0.11.3 -> 0.11.4 and pythonPackages.shamir-mnemonic: init at 0.1.0 → https://git.io/fj9UM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/fj9I6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nicknovitski opened pull request #65691 → riemann-tools: 0.2.13 -> 0.2.14 → https://git.io/fj9Ii
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nicknovitski opened pull request #65692 → hiera-eyaml: 2.1.0 -> 3.0.0 → https://git.io/fj9IP
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<adamantium> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade zfs version on a livedisk on the fly without rebuilding / restarting the livedisk. It seems to not be able to reload the kernel module with modprobe. When systemctl stop zfs-zed ; rmmmod zfs ; modprobe zfs # gives me errors about unknown symbols
<adamantium> i could just reboot using my 0.8 zfs iso, but the thing is that I am actually trying to build a feature into a script I maintain; I just want to be able to upgrade to the zfsUnstable using any livedisk, if it were possible.
<adamantium> Anyone have an idea to make this work?
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<Denommus> hey
<Denommus> I'm getting a hash error when trying to enable gitlab-runner
<adamantium> I am guessing it cannot upgrade zfs versions without rebooting as a safety feature, but in this case, it's the livedisk iso, should be harmless?
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<trebuh> Hello, what would be your advice to migrate and learn NixOS: Do it on a server or on a laptop?
<MarcWeber> trebuh: depends on your machine. You can also use virtualization ..
<azazel> trebuh: you already know Nix?
<MarcWeber> You can install nix in your home directory. You can also browse the nixos/nixpkgs sources without installing.
<trebuh> MarcWeber:oh true. but my laptop is a bit old and the 4GB of RAM might not be enough.
<trebuh> azazel: nope, my experience is Archlinux/CentOS for several years each.
<clever> adamantium: the zfs has to be built for the right kernel
<clever> adamantium: kexec may help
<infinisil> adamantium: Maybe the people in #zfsonlinux know more about it
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<azazel> trebuh: then I would split the thing in two, first get confident with Nix on wathever distro are you using now, and then experiment with NixOS
<trebuh> sounds reasonnable
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<trebuh> thanks for the advice. I should start there? https://nixos.org/nix/manual/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nicknovitski opened pull request #65693 → chefdk: 2.4.17 -> 4.2.0 → https://git.io/fj9Lk
<adamantium> clever: i think you're right, seems to be some kind of kernel mismatch. how can i use kexec on the livedisk to sync the latest kernel and zfs versions together without rebuilding the iso / rebooting
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<clever> adamantium: if you nix-build this kexec script, it will generate a kernel+initrd pair, using configuration.nix to generate the entire nixos image, which is baked into the initrd
<clever> adamantium: if you run that kexec script, it will immediatelly switch kernels and boot into it
<clever> adamantium: session.md shows how to build the tarball image, but if your already using nix, you can skip tar'ing it up
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar opened pull request #65694 → Refactor and fix Mumble → https://git.io/fj9Lm
<adamantium> clever: K, this is getting a little deep..
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<adamantium> clever: nix-build kexec.nix --> "cannot auto-call a function that has an argument without a default valkue ('pkgs)"
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<clever> adamantium: read session.md
<clever> adamantium: very first line, change it from kexec_tarball to kexec_script
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<adamantium> clever: now attribute system.build.kexec_script already defined
<adamantium> I'm afraid I must not have modified it the way you said properly.. I'm not sure what you meant.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zaninime opened pull request #65695 → rga: init at 0.9.2 → https://git.io/fj9L0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #65696 → pythonPackages.runway-python: init at 0.3.1 → https://git.io/fj9Lo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #65674 → mill: 0.4.1 -> 0.5.0 → https://git.io/fj9J9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj9LP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #65676 → android-file-transfer: fix building with qt → https://git.io/fj9Jb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj9LQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nicknovitski opened pull request #65697 → bundlerApp: meta.platforms defaults to platforms of ruby dependency → https://git.io/fj9L7
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<clever> adamantium: change it in the nix-build command, not the nix file
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<hr[m]> Does anyone know how nixpkgs handles security updates? Say a critical bug/security issue is found in a package in nixpkgs and a fix is released in the upstream repo for the package, what process is used to quickly merge the fix into nixpkgs unstable and the latest release tag ie. 19.03? I presume you open a pull request with the package to nixpkgs with the appropriate version bump as per usual. Is this request then marked as
<hr[m]> urgent? Once the fix is merged, how is it applied retroactively to the stable nixpkgs channel?
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<ivan> can a 19.03 user please apply and test https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65635 and report there
<{^_^}> #65635 (by ivan, 11 hours ago, open): [19.03] chromium: 75.0.3770.90 -> 76.0.3809.87
<hr[m]> manveru: Thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil opened pull request #65698 → [RFC] Away from static id's for services → https://git.io/fj9tY
<drakonis> :o
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jslight90 opened pull request #65699 → nixos/gitlab: fix config initializer permissions → https://git.io/fj9t2
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<rawtaz> sup?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nyanloutre opened pull request #65700 → <!-- Nixpkgs has a lot of new incoming Pull Requests, but not enough people to review this constant stream. Even if you … → https://git.io/fj9t5
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<edhebi> Hi ! ^^
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<rawtaz> lo edhebi
<rawtaz> wellcum
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<edhebi> I was wondering, is this the right place for newb question/support ?
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<infinisil> edhebi: Sure is!
<edhebi> I'm trying to setup nixos as my daily after +- 5 years on Arch, and I'm trying to beat neovim into understanding nix files
<rawtaz> edhebi: happy to have you here
<edhebi> The wiki talks about `vim-addon-nix` but I can't get it to install (I'll probably file an issue if I can't figure to problem)
<edhebi> anyone has a comfortable setup ?
<infinisil> ,configsearch
<{^_^}> To search public NixOS/Nixpkgs/NixOps configs, use https://search.tx0.co (Ping ${"til" + "pner"} if it acts up again)
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<edhebi> oh
<infinisil> Let's see if somebody has something for that..
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @artemist opened pull request #65701 → xonsh: 0.9.8 → 0.9.9 → https://git.io/fj9qG
<edhebi> infinisil: my internet seems to be half dead right now, I'll look it up later, thanks for the link
<infinisil> edhebi: Ah, disasm's config is a good example: https://github.com/disassembler/network/blob/master/modules/profiles/vim.nix#L5-L9
<infinisil> vimrc also
<rawtaz> edhebi: but what are the symptoms of "can't get it to install"?
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<edhebi> A supposedly missing function definition in the plugin
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @artemist opened pull request #65702 → nixos/xonsh: Use the package specified in the package option → https://git.io/fj9qC
<edhebi> infinisil: just above. I might be coming from neovim. My internet can't even get github to load right now, I'll keep those links for later
<infinisil> ,paste
<{^_^}> Use a website such as [ https://gist.github.com/ http://ix.io/ https://hastebin.com/ http://sprunge.us/ https://paste.ee/ ] or similar services to share anything that's longer than a couple lines.
<infinisil> edhebi: Maybe the ix.io invocation works: echo Hello world. | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
<infinisil> For pasting stuff
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<edhebi> infinisil: I'll remember for later. I've gotta go, but thanks for your time (and links), it's appreciated
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