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<pamplemousse> Hi there :)
<Church-> And got it working again. Cool
<pamplemousse> trying to make a python package available in nixpkgs, I hit an error that I do not understand...
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<pamplemousse> "ERROR: pyvex-8.19.4.5-py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl is not a supported wheel on this platform."
<exarkun> nixos isn't a manylinux1 platform
<exarkun> package it from source instead of from the binary wheel
<pamplemousse> exarkun: yes, but where is that coming from? (not really familiar with python dev environment / way of working)
<exarkun> can you paste more output somewhere?
<pamplemousse> yes, gi
<pamplemousse> gimme a sec*
<Church-> Hmm, anyone gotten FF14 to work with proton on NixOS?
<pamplemousse> exarkun: https://pastebin.com/QvmHVY7Q
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #64752 → pdfcpu: 0.1.25 -> 0.2 → https://git.io/fjX2X
<exarkun> pamplemousse: pyvex has a funky setup.py
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<exarkun> pamplemousse: It tries to guess a correct platform name and its guess is wrong for nixos
<exarkun> pamplemousse: If you pass --plat-name yourself with a correct value perhaps it will work
<exarkun> pamplemousse: Or you could try patching that logic out of setup.py
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<exarkun> pamplemousse: I _think_ a good nixos plat-name is more like "x86_64-linux"
<pamplemousse> exarkun: how can I pass the --plat-name to the setup.py script?
<exarkun> have you used overrideAttrs?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @malob opened pull request #64753 → Updating documentation about adding new Vim plugins → https://git.io/fjX2y
<exarkun> maybe that
<exarkun> though I think I tried that on a buildPythonPackage one time and had trouble
<pamplemousse> nope, gonna have a look at it
<pamplemousse> thank you exarkun
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<Netsu> what is analogue to `buildInputs` for the `checkPhase`
<Netsu> oh, I see, the `checkInputs`, sorry :)
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<pamplemousse> exarkun: finally got it working using the setupPyBuildFlags, with the platform name you suggested
<pamplemousse> exarkun: thanks again :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rvolosatovs opened pull request #64754 → go: 1.12.6 -> 1.12.7, 1.11.11 -> 1.11.12 → https://git.io/fjX2p
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<emily> hi, what's the easiest way to set up overlays so that they work in both my nixos configuration.nix, and in `nix run`/`nix-shell`/etc.?
<emily> nixpkgs overlays, I mean
<emily> ah, `nixpkgs-overlays` in NIX_PATH, I see
<emily> though, hm, that seems to not work for the packages in the nixos configuration?
<emily> do you need to include the nixpkgs-overlay directory in `nixpkgs.overlays` or something?
<emily> I see https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Overlays#Using_nixpkgs.overlays_from_configuration.nix_as_.3Cnixpkgs-overlays.3E_in_your_NIX_PATH but it seems kind of elaborate :/
<jackdk> I am having difficulty booting the nixos install medium on my xps 13 (9380). I have turned secure boot off in the bios, but trying to boot either of the partitions on the USB just gives me a black screen and a cursor in the top left
<gchristensen> which USB port are you using?
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<jackdk> the one on the right edge
<gchristensen> ok, that is a start
<gchristensen> https://grahamc.com/blog/nixos-on-dell-9560 these BIOS settings were required for my 9380
<jackdk> I assume it matters because you asked that, but reading about all the weird variations in USB-C For Workgroups 3.11 WIth Enhanced Tools makes me want to flip tables
<gchristensen> lol yep
<gchristensen> it can't boot off USB disks in the left edge
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #64755 → gitAndTools.git-absorb: 0.3.0 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/fjXaL
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<Church-> Wat
<Church-> Fscking USB impls...
<gchristensen> (and the one on the right is displayport...)
<Church-> Huh thought that was on the left?
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<Church-> Least it is on my xps13
<gchristensen> not on the 9380
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<emily> is the doc saying that nixos-rebuild supports <nixpkgs-overlays> really true? I can do `nix run nixpkgs.redshift-wayland` but not reference `pkgs.redshift-wayland`, even when $NIX_PATH/nix.nixPath includes nixpkgs-overlays
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<clever> emily: last i checked, nixos-rebuild ignores overlays in NIX_PATH
<clever> emily: it only obeys nixpkgs.overlays = [ ... ]; in configuration.nix
<emily> so "If you want your overlays to be accessible by nix tools and also in the system-wide configuration, add nixpkgs-overlays to your NIX_PATH: ... Currently nixos-rebuild only works with a <nixpkgs-overlays> path that is a directory." on the wiki is just nonsense? :/
<clever> emily: this is what ive done before
<Netsu> what can mean "wrong ELF type"?
<clever> emily: line 9 tells nixos to use an overlay in the overlays dir, and line 13 bakes that overlays dir into the default NIX_PATH
<emily> yeah, but then I have to duplicate the whole list :( it's not the end of the world, just kind of sucks
<Netsu> nix derivation build ocaml package with library and binary successfully, but throw that `wrong ELF type`. Should it be fixed in derivation somehow?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #64756 → cointop: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.4 → https://git.io/fjXan
<hiroshi[m]> hello folks. I have a question about nixos + zfs
<hiroshi[m]> why boot is separted from root in UEFI --> https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS
<clever> hiroshi[m]: personally, i make /boot the ESP (vfat) on zfs+efi machines
<hiroshi[m]> that is interesting
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<clever> hiroshi[m]: grub has trouble when /boot is on zfs
<clever> for legacy booting, i make /boot ext4
<clever> and since EFI needs vfat, i just make /boot vfat and the ESP
<hiroshi[m]> Oh that makes sense now to me. thanks clever
<clever> hiroshi[m]: also, i make sure to put /nix onto its own zfs dataset, seperate from /
<clever> and i try to also make /home its own dataset too
<clever> hiroshi[m]: https://github.com/cleverca22/nix-tests/blob/master/kexec/justdoit.nix#L95-L105 is how ive been doing my installs lately
<hiroshi[m]> I wanted to ask you about how many datasets did you create
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64129 → python37Packages.deap: 1.2.2 -> 1.3.0 → https://git.io/fjK60
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64708 → prometheus_2: 2.11.0 -> 2.11.1 → https://git.io/fjXG3
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<hiroshi[m]> is possible to create datasets after I ran nixos-generate-config --root "/mnt/"
<clever> hiroshi[m]: yes, but youll want to re-run nixos-generate-config, after you mount them
<clever> to update hardware-configuration.nix
<jackdk> grahamc[m]: the laptop will boot an ubuntu liveusb image on the same device, so it looks like this is a nixos install media issu
<hiroshi[m]> nice
<clever> jackdk: how did you write the nixos iso to the usb?
<jackdk> clever: dd if=/path/to/nixos.19.04.....iso of=/dev/sdb bs=32k status=progress
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<clever> jackdk: i would expect that to just work
<jackdk> me too. I will fiddle more with this later. I need to take a recovery usb first before I actually go a'installin
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64143 → python37Packages.owslib: 0.17.1 -> 0.18.0 → https://git.io/fjK1Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #64757 → pythonPackages.sklearn-deap: 0.2.2 -> 0.2.3 → https://git.io/fjXaS
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/5bcc6cecb35 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/eadc8510514 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<Zer0xp> Does anyone know how to resolve this issue ? A folder named /home/chr15/.cache/kioexec/krun/6150_0/ already exists.
<dminuoso> I tried to follow https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-linux-config-developing-modules but I'm getting ⌜ERROR: could not insert module ./drivers/net/usb/r8152.ko: Invalid module format⌝
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<Miyu-chan> Aside from `serviceConfig.restartNonce = currentTime; restartIfChanged = true;` what other facilities do I have to start the service on rebuild?
<arianvp> to _Start_ it?
<Miyu-chan> Yes, to start it.
<arianvp> add wantedBy = [ "multi-user.target" ]
<Miyu-chan> activationScript?
<Miyu-chan> Hm. That's also one thing that I thought about.
<arianvp> it will then be pulled in on boot, and will also be started during activation
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<Miyu-chan> You sure about that? I checked switch-to-configuration, and multi-user.target is not started.
<arianvp> i'm 75% sure
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<Miyu-chan> Good enough. I'll check the source. Thanks!
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<arianvp> Miyu-chan: look at line 177 in switch-to-configuration
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<arianvp> it starts all target units I think
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<Miyu-chan> arianvp: Okay cool, you're in the same side of the netsplit.
<Miyu-chan> I read line 208 instead of 173, so I mixed things up.
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<Miyu-chan> OTOH, I wonder what I'd do if I want it upon boot.
<Miyu-chan> Err
<Miyu-chan> if I don't want it upon boot*
<Miyu-chan> Methinks I can just setup a /tmp file.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64768 → bindfs: 1.14.0 -> 1.14.1 → https://git.io/fjXwt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64766 → bdf2psf: 1.191 -> 1.192 → https://git.io/fjXVN
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<Miyu-chan> I just learned about fscrypt.
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<aveltras> is it possible to eval a command output in a configuration file which expect a string ?
<aveltras> example :
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<Zer0xp> Can anyone help me with this issue ?
<Zer0xp> It's a KIOExec error
<Miyu-chan> aveltras: Does this expect user input?
<Zer0xp> "A folder named /home/chr15/.cache/kioexec/krun/3844_0/ already exists."
<aveltras> Miyu-chan: i expect the rebuild to fail if i have not already logged in to last pass on the command line
<aveltras> Miyu-chan: but then it should be ok to proceed
<aveltras> Miyu-chan: thoses commands outputs a string in terminal
<aveltras> Miyu-chan: to answer your question :), no
<Miyu-chan> Okay. I just had a stupid idea. It might work with derivations and usage of NIX_REMOTE=.
<Miyu-chan> Basically, runCommand "user" { impure = true; } "lpass ..."
<Miyu-chan> But this is 100% not the way to go.
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<Miyu-chan> NIX_REMOTE= would, from what I understand, make the commands run under your user, so some impurity is to be expected.
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<aveltras> Miyu-chan: not really sure how to use this, i guess i'll try to use some json import instead, lpass supports outputting json
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<Miyu-chan> Yes please. That's a much better choice. :)
<Miyu-chan> Hm. URI strings are not deprecated, right?
<Miyu-chan> Actually, scratch that. Do you think that https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/45 will pass?
<{^_^}> rfcs#45 (by 7c6f434c, 11 weeks ago, open): [RFC 0045] Deprecating unquoted URL syntax
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<yorick> Miyu-chan: yes
<yorick> Miyu-chan: people are discouraged from putting them in nixpkgs
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<yorick> is it possible to use grahamcofborg as a cache for reviewing PRs?
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<Miyu-chan> Aww, dammit. I actually liked that feature.
<Miyu-chan> It's the right way forward though.
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<yorick> Miyu-chan: "abc${DEF:geh}" looks like a bash substitution
<Taneb> I'm trying to package something and it's distributed as an essentially standalone python script. Are there any examples in nixpkgs I could refer to that people like?
<Miyu-chan> Also, what's the status of file system encryption with NixOS? Not block level, but file system.
<Miyu-chan> I guess it'd be better to say encryption-aware file systems?
<yorick> Miyu-chan: zfs and bcachefs do that
<Miyu-chan> Or not, that makes it sound like the file system knows wheter its on LUKS or not.
<Miyu-chan> Yeah, I'm thinking about ext4 and f2fs specifically, since they seem to use fscrypt, and I'm not sure how that works on bootup.
<yorick> I wouldn't really call that encryption-aware
<lucus16> Taneb: I packaged latexrun a while ago, that's a standalone python script
<Taneb> lucus16: exactly what I'm after, thanks :)
<Miyu-chan> I checked it out a bit, and fscrypt seems like there's only an fscrypt package.
<Miyu-chan> Lmao
<Miyu-chan> # Don't use this for anything important yet!
<Miyu-chan> So yeah, no NixOS integration whatsover. I guess I'll be going with ext4 over LUKS. Since I don't think F2FS over LUKS makes sense.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #64767 → adwaita-qt: 1.0 -> 1.0.91 → https://git.io/fjXVh
<Miyu-chan> Seems like cryptsetup has plain format. I'll give this one a go. https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/blob/master/FAQ#L499
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @1000101 opened pull request #64784 → monero: Enable Trezor support → https://git.io/fjXKk
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<Zer0xp> Does anyone here use KDE Plasma ?
<Zer0xp> With their NixOS
<yorick> Zer0xp: it's the default
<Zer0xp> So I've been trying to update my VS Code but I keep getting this issue: "A folder named /home/Zer0xp/.cache/kioexec/krun/7199_0/ already exists."
<Zer0xp> I try deleting the folder but it keeps respawning instantly
<Miyu-chan> I'll have to ask. What does "default" here mean?
<yorick> Zer0xp: on 18.09?
<yorick> Miyu-chan: if you complete the graphical installer and enable x, that's what you get
<Zer0xp> Does anyone know what kioexec does and why it prevents me from updating certain apps ? Had the same issue trying to update Postman.
<Zer0xp> yorick: 19.03
<Miyu-chan> Ah.
<Zer0xp> yorick: That's the NixOS version
<yorick> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378546 fixed on 2019-03-30
<yorick> "It happened when the remote URL had no filename (i.e. ended with a '/', which can happen over http)."
<Zer0xp> And when I say update I mean in-app update.
<das_j> Does anyone know what the proper way of packaging a node project is? The readme in the nixpkgs broke my node packages tree :c
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<Zer0xp> yorick: If it's been fixed then should I update my KDE ? If so, then how do I do that ?
<yorick> Zer0xp: it's fixed in nixos-unstable, but not nixos-19.03
<Zer0xp> Oh
<yorick> maybe it should be backported
<Zer0xp> Will there be a fix coming on 19.03 ?
<Zer0xp> Or should I just switch to another desktop manager ? Like Gnome
<Zer0xp> If there's anything better than KDE, let me know. Will be happy to try it out.
<vmandela> gchristensen, ping
<Miyu-chan> Huh. Why is __impure not working
<Miyu-chan> nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; runCommand "ls" { __impure = true; } "users > $out"' --no-out-lin
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Taneb opened pull request #64785 → q: init at 1.7.1 → https://git.io/fjXKr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64482 → xterm: 346 -> 347 → https://git.io/fjiQ8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #64761 → asdf: 3.3.2 -> 3.3.3 → https://git.io/fjXVR
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<aveltras> I have a problem configuring notmuch with emacs, I have set up the emacs service and use emacsclient to use emacs. in my terminal the env variable NOTMUCH_CONFIG is available but emacs can't see it, i guess the service might be started too soon. did anyone face this problem ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #64744 → squid, squid4: bump/add patch fixing CVE-2019-13345 → https://git.io/fjXg5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjX6u
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #64745 → [r19.03] squid, squid4: add patches fixing CVE-2019-13345 → https://git.io/fjXgd
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<aveltras> moving the service to home manager did the trick
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #63817 → wine: Set WINELOADER in wrapper, wrap also wine64. → https://git.io/fjr5L
<gnidorah> could someone please merge this? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63024
<{^_^}> #63024 (by gnidorah, 4 weeks ago, open): midisheetmusic: always bring timidity dependency
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64786 → feh: 3.1.3 -> 3.2 → https://git.io/fjX6X
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64787 → fio: 3.14 -> 3.15 → https://git.io/fjX6Q
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor merged pull request #64770 → babeltrace: 1.5.6 -> 1.5.7 → https://git.io/fjXwZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64789 → forkstat: 0.02.09 -> 0.02.10 → https://git.io/fjXit
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #64790 → opam: 2.0.4 -> 2.0.5 → https://git.io/fjXiO
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<Miyu-chan> TIL, SUDO_USER exists.
<Miyu-chan> So you can make sudo-aware programs work with your user's "context," but with accelerated permissions.
<Miyu-chan> s/accelerated/escalated/
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:~]$ sudo bash -c 'echo $SUDO_USER'
<Miyu-chan> myrl
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:~]$ sudo bash -c 'eval "echo ~$SUDO_USER"'
<Miyu-chan> /home/myrl
<Miyu-chan> Cool.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64756 → cointop: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.4 → https://git.io/fjXan
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64755 → gitAndTools.git-absorb: 0.3.0 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/fjXaL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64792 → eventstat: 0.04.05 -> 0.04.06 → https://git.io/fjXiQ
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<Netsu> How can I do not compile dune's libraries that are just dependencies of test targets?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir closed pull request #54702 → exa: 0.8.0 -> 2019-01-26 → https://git.io/fh6oe
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<yorick> argh, nix-env doesn't use NIX_PATH
<Miyu-chan> It doesn't?
<baronleonardo> hello, I just want someone to help me at making i3pystatus working on nixos
<{^_^}> nix#993 (by domenkozar, 2 years ago, closed): nix-env should respect <nixpkgs>
<baronleonardo> sorry I'm used to use IRC
<Miyu-chan> Ah yikes.
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<baronleonardo> so anyone could help me ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64793 → tridactyl-native: 1.15.0 -> 1.16.2 → https://git.io/fjXPv
<yorick> baronleonardo: this is already packaged
<yorick> nix-env -iA nixos.i3pystatus
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #64780 → dovecot: 2.3.6 -> 2.3.7 → https://git.io/fjXr1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti opened pull request #64794 → nixos: add 'localRecipients' config option for Postfix → https://git.io/fjXPI
<baronleonardo> the problem is this package is act like a package and a library at the same time
<baronleonardo> I put it in my configuration.nix
<baronleonardo> to be installed at normal package
<yorick> that should work
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat closed pull request #64758 → python37: fix distutils C++ patch → https://git.io/fjXaA
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<baronleonardo> environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [ ... i3pystatus ... ];
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed commit from @marsam to staging-19.03 « python37: fix distutils C++ patch (PR #64758) »: https://git.io/fjXPt
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<yorick> baronleonardo: yes, that should work
<yorick> you should now have i3pystatus in your path
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<baronleonardo> when I ran your command, and open a python terminal it tells me that no module found
<baronleonardo> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'i3pystatus'
<baronleonardo> when I try to nixshell -p i3pystatus
<baronleonardo> it opens a shell and run perfectly
<baronleonardo> but just in that shell
<yorick> baronleonardo: oh, yeah, you can't use packages you install that way as python libraries
<baronleonardo> exactly
<baronleonardo> this package has the same properties as both a package and a library
<baronleonardo> I need to import it to make it's configurations
<baronleonardo> its*
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<yorick> so anyone know of a way to set nix-defexpr from nixos config?
<baronleonardo> this part is from nixos manual, I read it multiple times without a success
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<baronleonardo> I miss something but I don'
<baronleonardo> don't* know what is it
<betaboon> baronleonardo: as described in the documentation you can simply pass your configuration using `i3pystatus -c ...` https://i3pystatus.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configuration.html#configuration
<betaboon> baronleonardo: i just tested that and it seems to work
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<baronleonardo> thanks man you saved me :)
<betaboon> baronleonardo: aside from that: i just tested `nix-shell -p i3pystatus` and then open a python-shell and run `import i3pystatus` works fine for me as well
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<baronleonardo> betaboon it works just in this shell and this is an application that need to be in i3 config file at startup
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<das_j2> ajs124: Ping
<ajs124> das_j2: pong
<das_j> ajs124: noice
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<betaboon> baronleonardo: i don't quite understand. is your problem solved now, or not ?
<__monty__> Hmm, could someone verify whether the "wire-desktop" in nixpkgs is a valid derivation? nix-build ~/src/nixpkgs -a wire-desktop is complaining it's not a derivation.
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<betaboon> __monty__: `nix-shell -p wire-desktop` works fine here
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #64638 → atlassian-jira: 8.1.0 -> 8.1.2 → https://git.io/fjPXz
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<yorick> > wire-desktop
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/dccj5afsvx122g7p07s734kw3vap2j43-wire-desktop-3.9.2895.drv>"
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<yorick> __monty__: capital A?
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<__monty__> `nix-build ~/src/nixpkgs -A hello` works but `nix-build ~/src/nixpkgs -A wire-desktop` doesn't.
<__monty__> And I'm working on a clean checkout of nixpkgs.
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<betaboon> __monty__: works for me oO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #64763 → amazon-ecs-cli: 1.14.1 -> 1.15.1 → https://git.io/fjXVr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjXPo
<betaboon> __monty__: just tried with the command you provided against nixpkgs-master pulled just right now
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64797 → fanficfare: 3.8.0 -> 3.9.0 → https://git.io/fjXP1
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<Miyu-chan> IIRC, you can't import from a config? Is this still true?
<Miyu-chan> imports = [ config.foo ];
<__monty__> betaboon: Perplexing.
<betaboon> __monty__: you're on nixos, right ?
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<__monty__> betaboon: No, nix-darwin. But don't see why I should get a different result.
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<clever> betaboon: because its fetching the debian package, and patchelf'ing it
<__monty__> betaboon: I know, that's why I'm rewriting that.
<clever> __monty__: is it electron based?
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<__monty__> However, nix-build should say "Refusing to build on darwin." not "This isn't a derivation."
<__monty__> clever: Yes.
<__monty__> It's completely cross-platform.
<clever> __monty__: so you could just extract the JS/html assets, and then run ${pkgs.electron} against it
<clever> oh, but electron itself is packaged the same way, lol
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<clever> __monty__: and if you want to build electron with nix, your in for some fun!
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<__monty__> Should I resort to fetching the .pkg instead?
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<clever> __monty__: i would maybe look into packaging electron for darwin, via its .pkg file
<clever> __monty__: then you (and others) can go with my original idea, and just run the nixpkgs electron on it
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<__monty__> clever: Guess I'll start there.
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-19.03-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0d0cb247ff3 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-19.03-darwin)
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<clever> __monty__: once electron is packaged, both platforms can run it with something as simple as https://github.com/input-output-hk/daedalus/blob/develop/installers/nix/linux.nix#L19-L28
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<__monty__> Hmm, maybe the problems evaluating the derivation came from having the result folder around? Just tried removing that and seems I lack permissions?
<clever> __monty__: you want `rm result` not `rm result/`
<__monty__> clever: Still have that open from yesterday : )
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<__monty__> Welp, guess I'll have to fix my store then?
<clever> __monty__: nix-store --verify --check-contents will look for any damaged paths
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<clever> __monty__: nix-store --delete /nix/store/foo to remove corrupt things, dont use --force
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<__monty__> Hmm, verify didn't find anything, so I guess it's alright.
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<__monty__> clever: Hmm, electron looks packaged for darwin already? It just fetches the .app but that's fine, right?
<clever> __monty__: oh, maybe i was just mis-remembering that part
<clever> its patching the pre-built binary, for both platforms
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<Miyu-chan> This is starting to tick me off lol. How do I make .* not include . ..
<Miyu-chan> (Bash)
<clever> Miyu-chan: a for loop and an if, lol
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<Miyu-chan> Yikes.
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<Miyu-chan> Oh wait. This seems to work lmao
<Miyu-chan> echo .[^.]*
<Miyu-chan> .a .b
<sphalerite> yep
<clever> Miyu-chan: what if you have a file named ..foo ?
<Miyu-chan> Eep.
<Miyu-chan> echo .[^.]* ..[^.]* :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64798 → fnotifystat: 0.02.01 -> 0.02.02 → https://git.io/fjXXc
<Miyu-chan> Jokes aside. This should be DOTGLOB and NULLGLOB, IIRC.
<__monty__> Miyu-chan: That doesn't get files with an extension though.
<gchristensen> `find`
<Zer0xp> Does anyone know how I can change my NixOS from version 19.03 to unstable ?
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<clever> Zer0xp: change the channel on root and rebuild as normal, `nix-channel --list` as root to see the current channels
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<clever> Zer0xp: it should be showing this
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<Zer0xp> It's showing me this after I checked the list. Nixos https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-19.03
<clever> Zer0xp: youll want to use --add to switch it over, check the man page, then --update
<Zer0xp> Cool, thanks
<Miyu-chan> Uh, crap. Need quick help.
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:~]$ sudo du -chs /tmp/* | sort -h
<Miyu-chan> [sudo] password for myrl:
<Miyu-chan> sudo: unable to execute /run/current-system/sw/bin/du: Argument list too long
<Miyu-chan> Actually, no need.
<gchristensen> lol
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<clever> Miyu-chan: dont use * there, du is already recursive
<Miyu-chan> Aaaa.
<Miyu-chan> clever: I need * for the individual parts.
<Miyu-chan> s/parts/directories/
<clever> Miyu-chan: --max=1
<Miyu-chan> Oh. Of course lol
<clever> du -ch /tmp/ --max=1 | sort -h
<Miyu-chan> This is a sight I haven't seen in a long time.
<Miyu-chan> /dev/sda2 126G 120G 0 100% /
<clever> Miyu-chan: also, `ncdu -x /` is great
<exarkun> anyone have node_exporter packaged for nixos?
<clever> exarkun: prometheus is already packaged fully
<exarkun> ah, it's in the prometheus package, okay, thanks
<clever> ,locate node_exporter
<{^_^}> Found in packages: prometheus-node-exporter.bin
<clever> exarkun: its in both, lol
<exarkun> ah, not sure why I didn't run nix search before I asked that
<Zer0xp> clever: It seemed to have worked. Thanks.
<Zer0xp> Also does anyone here use home-manager ?
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:~]$ du -chs /nix/store/
<Miyu-chan> 97G /nix/store/
<Miyu-chan> fun
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64800 → fossil: 2.8 -> 2.9 → https://git.io/fjXXi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit merged pull request #64714 → fly: init at 5.3.0 → https://git.io/fjXZk
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<igor> Hello. Is there a way to display nix-shell enviroment in shell?
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<Miyu-chan> nix-shell --run 'env'?
<__monty__> clever: I'm looking at the repo because you said it'd be easy to just feed the css, html and js to electron. It uses yarn though and I'm not at all familiar, can't find anything that looks like a makefile to see what steps have to be executed to complete the html/js assets. Should I just try running yarn in the derivation?
<clever> __monty__: its using yarn to build the final JS, but you can just rip that final JS out of the existing .deb
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<Miyu-chan> 57293 store paths deleted, 38427.28 MiB freed
<Miyu-chan> Wooh. That's one thick n/nix/store
<clever> Miyu-chan: ive seen bigger
<clever> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
<clever> tank/nix 160G 152G 8.0G 96% /nix
<exarkun> 1 line of nix to install/enable node_exporter. or 95 lines of ansibles. :(
<__monty__> clever: Hmm, so, I get the deb, download the assets, then wrap electron around it all? They, seem to release versions for the different platforms at different commits. Wouldn't this matter?
<clever> __monty__: try just using the latest version for all platforms and see what breaks
<clever> exarkun: https://gist.github.com/cleverca22/f3e54a2e0ade7e5f38a6ee4b20d83e14 or 185 lines of nix, to generate a full docker image, that contains prometheus, grafana, oauth2_proxy, and nginx!
<exarkun> :)
<Miyu-chan> :H
<Miyu-chan> :D*
<avn> clever: docker images is a useful nix-fu ;) Does it possible to build them having only docker on host?
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<clever> avn: this nix expr generates a docker image, so you can then just `docker load < result` to import it
<clever> avn: line 180 even has a helper script, to auto-load it, so i could iterate faster
<clever> and once its in docker, you could just push it to a docker repo and leave nix behind
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<avn> clever: Is hard to sell nix for docker image making, if it require at least one full-blown nixos host ;)
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<clever> avn: doesnt need full nixos, just a linux kernel with nix installed
<clever> avn: which could maybe itself be a docker image, lol
<avn> clever: yup, it what I ask about -- does anyone tried/scripted/documented this? ;)
<clever> avn: not that i know of
<clever> but it seems fairly simple to install nix inside docker
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<yorick> is there anything against defaulting erlang to R21?
<gchristensen> Ankhers: any opinions?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ttuegel merged pull request #57097 → qtbase: Fix paths returned by qmake -query → https://git.io/fhhW1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ttuegel pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjX1v
<yorick> I'll just PR it
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<gchristensen> +1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yorickvP opened pull request #64801 → beam-packages: default erlangR20 -> erlangR21 → https://git.io/fjX1U
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64779 → ckbcomp: 1.191 -> 1.192 → https://git.io/fjXr6
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<yorick> actutally let me check if R22 breaks a lot
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<yorick> R22 does not seem to break a lot
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<yorick> updated the PR to 22 :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64798 → fnotifystat: 0.02.01 -> 0.02.02 → https://git.io/fjXXc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « fnotifystat: 0.02.01 -> 0.02.02 »: https://git.io/fjX1g
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64792 → eventstat: 0.04.05 -> 0.04.06 → https://git.io/fjXiQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « eventstat: 0.04.05 -> 0.04.06 »: https://git.io/fjX1a
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64788 → ocamlPackages.merlin: 3.3.1 -> 3.3.2 → https://git.io/fjXie
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @marsam to master « ocamlPackages.merlin: 3.3.1 -> 3.3.2 »: https://git.io/fjX1V
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yorickvP opened pull request #64803 → elixir: default 1.7.4 -> 1.9.0 → https://git.io/fjX1o
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<manveru> yorick++
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<Zer0xp> yorick++
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64804 → grails: 3.3.10 -> 4.0.0 → https://git.io/fjXMk
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<aveltras> anyone using the weechat service ? I don't get how it works. Why must i explicitly login as weechat user "su -l weechat -s /bin/sh" and then start weechat when there's a service running supposed to do this (i guess) ?
<gchristensen> I don't ...
<gchristensen> I just run weechat in screen
<gchristensen> IMO the weechat service should not be in nixos
<aveltras> gchristensen: with which user ?
<gchristensen> my own user
<aveltras> using tmux or sth ?
<gchristensen> I use screen :P but you could use tmux, sure
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #64805 → xcape: 1.2 -> 20180301 → https://git.io/fjXMq
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<aveltras> i don t know how thos two works
<aveltras> just trying to have the simplest possible setup
<aveltras> im using nixops to deploy this to a server
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #64806 → nixos/systemd: 242 supports Type = exec → https://git.io/fjXMY
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<__monty__> Can anyone explain why "wire-desktop" in my nixpkgs repo isn't a derivation? http://ix.io/1OzO
<__monty__> I haven't made any changes to the repo.
<clever> __monty__: any package overrides?
<__monty__> -_-
<tilpner> aveltras: Perhaps not the simplest, but has session management without screen/tmux, so you only have to learn a single shortcut: https://gist.github.com/tilpner/3da009df9bd66dd0aff6a662f5dcb432
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<__monty__> clever++
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<aveltras> tilpner: nice, is the .profile useful since there's a service ?
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<sauyon> nix-mode (in emacs) doesn't seem to activate with error "Keyword argument nix-build not one of ..."
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<__monty__> How do I overlay a nixpkgs attribute with a local nix expression?
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<clever> __monty__: attr = self.callPackage ./local.nix {};
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64808 → gnome3.gnome-software: 3.32.3 -> 3.32.4 → https://git.io/fjXMg
<hpfr[m]> How do you guys handle dotfiles vs nixos modules? Seems like a lot of modules have a multi line string option for putting a config that outputs to the dotfile. Is that the way to go?
<hpfr[m]> The only problem I have with that is that you would lose out on syntax highlighting
<sauyon> do you mean dotfiles in $HOME?
<das_j2> hpfr[m] (IRC): For $HOME, home-manager is probably the way to go
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<sauyon> strongly ^
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<hpfr[m]> sauyon: as opposed to dotfiles in /etc?
<sauyon> fair enough :P
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<__monty__> I'm still on the fence about using home-manager to just put my dotfiles in place or actually translating the configs into nix. Any advantages to doing that?
<das_j2> __monty__ (IRC): Ping me once you have decided. I have the same problem
<das_j> Oh, that (IRC) suffix sucks
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<exarkun> matrix?
<das_j> yep
<aveltras> tilpner: where does the "files.".profile".text" come from ? is this home manager ?
<__monty__> aveltras: Looks like it, yeah. "home.files" in the manual.
<aveltras> is there any alternative to get the same effect without bringing home manager in ?
<aveltras> it's for a server config
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<aveltras> is "environment.loginShellInit" the same ?
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<das_j> if you need /etc, use environment.etc."myservice/main.cfg".text = ''
<hpfr[m]> @freenode_das_j2:matrix.org: looks like home-manager has its own modules. Would that play nice with nixos modules, for example: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/programs/vim.nix versus https://github.com/rycee/home-manager/blob/master/modules/programs/vim.nix
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<sauyon> hpfr[m]: what kinds of interaction would you be suggesting? they should currently interact fine?
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<aveltras> das_j: were you answering to me ? if so, i don t get how to adapt https://gist.github.com/tilpner/3da009df9bd66dd0aff6a662f5dcb432
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<das_j> oh sorry, yes
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<baronleonardo> hello, I need so help about python on nixos
<hpfr[m]> sauyon: yeah I guess they don’t seem to actually overlap, I’m pretty new to nix. It looks like the nixos modules are restricted to system settings like default editor anyway. I’ll look into home-manager more.
<baronleonardo> I have a python package
<baronleonardo> i3pystatus
<das_j> aveltras: I have no idea where file comes from...
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-19.03-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3cd79ef30fb (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-19.03-darwin)
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<baronleonardo> it depends on 2 packages on as a library `python-dbus` and one on pip `xkbgroup`
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<aveltras> das_j: ok np, i'm just wondering how people configure weechat on their nixos server
<das_j> aveltras: As a bouncer?
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<aveltras> das_j: i don't know all the vocabulary related to irc, i've setup a vps and now i'd lik to be able to have a permanent irc service that i can connect to from emacs and android
<baronleonardo> anyone would help me at this problem ?!
<das_j> Well you can just preStart = "echo whatever > ${config.users.users.weechat.home}"; in the service
<das_j> that would be dirty but it would work
<das_j> sorry ${config.users.users.weechat.home}/.profile of course
<das_j> also yes, what you describe is a bouncer
<Taneb> aveltras: what you've just described is I think a bouncer
<sauyon> aveltras: this all feels a bit dirty
<aveltras> das_j: but the service is already running and i cant connect to it, only if i run "weechat" explicitly then i can
<das_j> aveltras: what does `ss -tulpen` say?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @WilliButz opened pull request #64810 → nixos/tests: extend grafana test, nixos/grafana: use group grafana instead of nogroup → https://git.io/fjXMA
<das_j> Does it list it? Also, don't forget about the nixos firewall
<aveltras> but then i have to ssh on the server, switch to weechat user and keep the windows open
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<sauyon> you could always specify the command to run on the client
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<dminuoso> aveltras: You might be interested into looking software like znc.
<aveltras> no sign of weechat here
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<aveltras> but then
<aveltras> says the service is running
<gchristensen> please just don't use the weechat service tbh
<__monty__> clever: What's your reasoning for getting the sources using the deb and then wrapping that with electron, rather than just doing the full yarn build process? I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why you'd use only *part* of a pre-built thing.
<aveltras> gchristensen: im now using a custom weechat service based on tilpner gist
<gchristensen> ah ok
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<aveltras> (trying at least)
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<clever> __monty__: mostly, to save the trouble of having to figure out their yarn deps and everything
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<clever> __monty__: and often, the source isnt available
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<__monty__> clever: In this case it is though, at least afaict. And there *is* a yarn.lock if that makes a difference?
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<__monty__> I'll follow your expertise if you say not to bother though.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64811 → gp2c: 0.0.11pl1 -> 0.0.11pl2 → https://git.io/fjXDU
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<clever> __monty__: and the usual purity stuff like people assuming /bin/bash exists
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<__monty__> clever: So I get the deb, then use dpkgs to fetch the sources?
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<gchristensen> dpkg can't fetch, that is what apt isfor
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<__monty__> Ah, thought that that was what dpkg-deb -x was doing. Guess I'll have to read up on dpkg and apt.
<gchristensen> oh maybe it can ... hrmm ... I didn't think dpkg knew how to fetch
<tilpner> aveltras: The .profile is there to automatically attach to the abduco session. I just do "mosh weechat@somehost" and can use weechat. Then press the abduco detach shortcut and weechat is still running but I have my shell back
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<clever> __monty__: i think `dpkg -x` is just to extract the contents of the deb
<tilpner> aveltras: You can just manually put the .profile there for now, to see if this module is something you want in the first place
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64796 → drumgizmo: 0.9.16 -> 0.9.17 → https://git.io/fjXPr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « drumgizmo: 0.9.16 -> 0.9.17 »: https://git.io/fjXDY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64782 → davix: 0.7.3 -> 0.7.4 → https://git.io/fjXoc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « davix: 0.7.3 -> 0.7.4 »: https://git.io/fjXD3
<tilpner> aveltras: The option is provided by https://github.com/tilpner/nur-packages/blob/master/modules/user-files.nix , but you shouldn't import random modules off of github, so you probably want to find another way of placing that file
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<aveltras> tilpner: what's the link between the service and the .profile ?
<aveltras> i'd like this to run at all time and not having to ssh in weechat user first
<tilpner> aveltras: It will be running all the time, without having to ssh in first
<aveltras> tilpner: right now, this is not working
<tilpner> aveltras: Although you may have to manually unlock weechat if you use the /secure thing
<aveltras> except if i do "su -l weechat -s /bin/sh"
<aveltras> and then start weechat
<tilpner> Are you using my module, or the nixpkgs service?
<aveltras> only then can i connect through https://www.glowing-bear.org for example
<aveltras> i use your module
<aveltras> not sure about the CGroup line 720
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<tilpner> aveltras: So now you do "ssh weechat@yourhost" or "mosh weechat@yourhost"
<aveltras> i didn't put the .profile yet
<tilpner> That's okay, you can just type in what the profile would do
<tilpner> And then you'll have to enable the relay for glowing-bear to connect to, from within weechat
<tilpner> I've tried declarative weechat config, it's not worth the effort IMO
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<aveltras> hmm ok i guess the weechat i manually start is not configured the same way than the one started with abduco
<aveltras> the channels list not there
<aveltras> might be why i can t connect with the service initialization
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<tilpner> It is configured in the same manner, but it won't use your existing configuration of course
<tilpner> You may copy that existing configuration into ~weechat
<tilpner> So e.g. /var/lib/weechat/exec.conf
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<aveltras> ye, it's already there
<tilpner> With the right permissions?
<aveltras> no i dont think so
<aveltras> should be weechat:weecaht ?
<tilpner> It's weechat:nogroup with mostly 600 here
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<aveltras> hmm
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<aveltras> if i run "exec abduco -a irc", it doesnt pick up config files (at least it seems, no channels), but if i run "weechat" it does
<tilpner> aveltras: Did you restart the service? If yes and it still doesn't work, paste ls -lah ~weechat
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<aveltras> hmm
<aveltras> tilpner: seems it was the .weechat directory
<tilpner> aveltras: Can you verify that /var/lib/weechat/irc.conf contains the networks you expect? I see a .weechat there, which the service should ignore. So if you copied your config there, that might explain the missing networks
<aveltras> in my ~weechat
<aveltras> moved it away
<aveltras> then the two methodes of starting weechat get the default config
<aveltras> which is fine i guess since i'll redo it according to the nginx proxy methode
<mkaito> my day so far: hating life trying to set up an environment with rust nightly and a working rust-racer.
<aveltras> tilpner: thx for the help here
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<aveltras> tilpner: i'll see if i manage to get it fully working from there :)
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<tilpner> aveltras: AFAIK, just typing weechat will use "~/.weechat", which is not what I wanted
<tilpner> aveltras: But the service will use ~ for its config, so both ways you mentioned will use different locations for their config
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<aveltras> tilpner: seems it works fine from there, i just had to "/relay add weechat 9000" and setting the password
<aveltras> the android app connects
<aveltras> i wont use "weechat" command anymore then
<aveltras> tilpner: why did you give up on declarative config ?
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<ldlework> Is there nix module for weechat config now?
<gchristensen> no
<tilpner> aveltras: Too much trouble to make changes. Just changing notification settings for a buffer would require a restart of weechat, and thus disconnect me from everything
<aveltras> would be nice
<tilpner> I have a Nix expression that generates a weechat configuration directory from an attrset
<tilpner> But it just doesn't fit the way people use weechat
<gchristensen> oh cool
<clever> tilpner: irssi has a /upgrade command, that will re-exec itself, and forward all open sockets
<gchristensen> whoa
<clever> tilpner: so you can change the binary without loosing connections
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<aveltras> the thing is, it would be nice to have an expression to have an initial setup, even if then you just change your settings imperatively
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<tilpner> clever: Yes, I probably could. At that point, I was passing a nix store path as configuration, but I could have made it a stable path and relinked it
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<tilpner> gchristensen, aveltras: Here's my wrapper for declarative weechat config, feel free to salvage what you like: https://tx0.co/uY1
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<aveltras> tilpner: thanks
<tilpner> That doesn't seem to be configured with Nix
<tilpner> Which you may of course not want in the first place
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #64812 → WIP buildPythonPackage: rename options to buildFlags, installFlags an… → https://git.io/fjXDD
<blackriversoftwa> matthewbauer: is there a technical reason that darling (darlinghq.org) is packaged for darwin only?
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<aveltras> i might try using home manager in the end to setup the weechat user home directory with those files
<aveltras> i think i dont mind getting disconnected every now and then, i don t expect to change settings to often
<tilpner> aveltras: Adding a channel to autojoin or changing per-buffer notification priority counts as changing settings
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<aveltras> tilpner: i see
<tilpner> That's what I meant by "But it just doesn't fit the way people use weechat"
<aveltras> might just backup those configuration files regularly then
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<tilpner> Definitely do regular backups
<tilpner> (At least daily IMO)
<tilpner> (Daily, because then you're compelled to automate them, and automatic backups are good)
<gchristensen> +1
<aveltras> i'll maybe defer this to the vps cloud provider
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<aveltras> hmm, im thinking, i want to setup emacs weechat then, the commands to setup default config could then be some macro in emacs
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<tilpner> That sounds like Fun™
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64814 → guile: 2.2.4 -> 2.2.6 → https://git.io/fjXyv
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<vmandela> gchristensen, ping
<gchristensen> pong
<vmandela> gchristensen, could you take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/2946 please ?
<{^_^}> nix#2946 (by vmandela, 4 weeks ago, open): installer: handle network proxy in systemd multi-user install
<gchristensen> yes!
<gchristensen> thank you for the ping!
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<Gopal[m]> is it possible to run a portable linux tarball?
<Gopal[m]> like firefox.tar.gz
<Gopal[m]> or ungoogled chromium's portable linux tarball?
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<tilpner> Gopal[m]: Your question is unclear to me. You should specify where that tarball comes from
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<tilpner> Gopal[m]: Possible interpretations: "I have a source tarball, how do I compile it?" "I have a tarball of binaries, how do I execute those?" "Can I use nixpkgs-packaged applications in a portable way?"
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #64793 → tridactyl-native: 1.15.0 -> 1.16.2 → https://git.io/fjXPv
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<Gopal[m]> <tilpner "Gopal: Your question is unclear "> I'm sorry.
<Gopal[m]> I have a tarball that has libraries + binaries
<Gopal[m]> How do I execute those?
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<tilpner> buildFHSUserEnv is the typical answer to running complex "foreign" software, steam-run is a quick way to test it
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<tilpner> It might also be possible to reuse the existing chromium derivation
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<exarkun> I wonder if anyone can help me understand my oversight in this python packaging work, https://github.com/PrivateStorageio/SecureAccessTokenAuthorizer/pull/4/files?file-filters%5B%5D=.nix
<exarkun> it doesn't build because the updated python packages from the overlay don't seem to end up in use
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<mkaito> does anyone actually know how to use carnix/buildRustCrate?
<exarkun> mkaito: I tried carnix last week, totally failed
<mkaito> the nixpkgs manual is outdated, the project readme is useless, and I'm kind of tired of waiting for buildRustPackage to recompile every single crate over and over again.
<mkaito> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<exarkun> yes
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<erictapen> mkaito: carnix is still quite unstable but I was able to use it for some stuff. any specific questions?
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<mkaito> yeah, it fails to find the `std` and `core` crates when compiling the `serenity` crate.
<mkaito> and I have no idea if I'm doing something wrong ir it's carnix or the rust tooling in nixpkgs that's broken
<mkaito> that's when I try to use rustc from the mozilla overlay. when I don't, it just spits out ~200 errors about things not being in scope when compiling serenity, which I guess is because rustc is older? I don't know.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64823 → khard: 0.13.0 -> 0.14.0 → https://git.io/fjXS1
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<exarkun> what's wrong with this no-op overlay? https://gist.github.com/exarkun/16c7ad3ae19898d9e268231b99d27963
<exarkun> well, what's wrong is infinite recursion but I don't see why
<mkaito> oh look at that, it's building things now. succ.... f*ck it's complaining about things not being in scope again.
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<adisbladis> The Nixcon 2019 ticket sales is now live! https://tickets.nixcon.org/nixcon/2019
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<exarkun> nothing to do with the overlay itself, of course :(
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<mkaito> so since carnix is fubar, how do I convince buildRustPackage to use the rustc from the mozilla overlay?
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<erictapen> mkaito: sorry for not writing back. I'm just trying to build the serenity crate with carnix
<mkaito> I'm kinda new to Rust, so that doesn't help. Given what it's complaining about, I think it might be using the 2015 edition, maybe.
<tilpner> mkaito: I have this in my scratch overlay, from helping someone with the same problem. https://tx0.co/lr3
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<mkaito> erictapen: https://git.sr.ht/~mkaito/dust I can push to a WIP branch what I have.
<tilpner> mkaito: You don't have to use the NUR method to get the mozilla overlay
<mkaito> tilpner: When I tried to use makeRustPlatform, I found that it tried to access rustc.src to make an ad-hoc rustSrc derivation, which fails because the overlay has a separate rust-src attribute.
<mkaito> well, it fails because `rustc.src` doesn't exist on the one from the mozilla overlay.
<__monty__> I'm getting "undefined variable 'desktopItem'", is this because I'm on darwin? And if so, how do I make it lazy enough for that not to matter?
<tilpner> mkaito: Are you referring to my paste?
<mkaito> I did something 90% the same earlier today
<__monty__> Oh, nvm, forgot a rec.
<tilpner> Try what I linked, I'm sure it worked when I originally wrote that
<mkaito> oh you do `rustc = rust`, yeah that might work
<erictapen> mkaito: yeah if you push your progress I could have a look at it
<mkaito> arcnmx: tilpner: thanks that works. now let me see about carnix.
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<arcnmx> makeRustPlatform iirc just always tries to grab rustc.src so you could either try to override/add that attr or just // { rustcSrc = ...; }
<mkaito> setting rustc = moz.rust seems to do the trick
<arcnmx> though it makes certain assumptions about .src so
<mkaito> erictapen: https://git.sr.ht/~mkaito/dust/tree/carnix please have a look
<mkaito> `nix-build -A dust`
<arcnmx> mm that should be enough unless you actually need rustcSrc I think? recall it not working otherwise but o:
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/fjX9G
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar merged pull request #64815 → IPXE EFI netboot fix → https://git.io/fjXy6
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<mkaito> arcnmx: no, it works fine. unless you need to use rust-racer, which explicitly uses rustSrc, very very annoyingly.
<arcnmx> Right.
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<arcnmx> the only bits that really care about rustcSrc being in order are the language servers and things
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor merged pull request #64804 → grails: 3.3.10 -> 4.0.0 → https://git.io/fjXMk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « grails: 3.3.10 -> 4.0.0 »: https://git.io/fjX90
<ToxicFrog> Argh. It sure would be nice if Airsonic were built from source in Nixpkgs so I could patch it.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64824 → ipvsadm: 1.29 -> 1.30 → https://git.io/fjX9E
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aske opened pull request #64826 → libstrangle: init at 2017-02-22 → https://git.io/fjX9r
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<pamplemo1sse> Is this up-to-date: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#ssec-check-phase? Because when I do not specify `doCheck = false`, tests are run... So the default seems to be the opposite of what's documented.
<pamplemo1sse> And, for python packages, how does nix-build knows which tests to run?
<tilpner> pamplemo1sse: You may need doInstallCheck = false;
<pamplemo1sse> Well, again, in the documentation "By default it is skipped"... This is not what I experience.
<tilpner> Which package are you building?
<pamplemo1sse> tilpner https://pypi.org/project/claripy/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #64732 → bcachefs: 2019-07-13 → https://git.io/fjXR0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjX9H
<tilpner> pamplemo1sse: You will find that the python infrastructure enables those tests, and that .doInstallCheck is true
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<pamplemo1sse> in the doc, it says that it calls `make installcheck`, where is the related makefile declared?
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<tilpner> It would call the Makefile contained in src. But I don't think these rules apply to language package sets
<tilpner> Or anything other than stdenv.mkDerivation
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<pamplemo1sse> tilpner: ok, that makes sense for the tests enabling part
<pamplemo1sse> tilpner: but how could I customize which tests are run?
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<pamplemo1sse> tilpner: ok, nvm, gonna have a look at https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#automatic-tests
<pamplemo1sse> tilpner: thanks :)
<erictapen> mkaito: no success yet but I'm still on it
<mkaito> thanks for trying :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64829 → libbytesize: 2.0 -> 2.1 → https://git.io/fjXHJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @jonringer to master « pythonPackages.vsts: init at 0.1.25 »: https://git.io/fjXHq
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<wildtrees> if I installed the same library as two seperate users using nix-env, should that lead to different crypto hash dir's of it in nix-store?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64551 → proj: 5.2.0 -> 6.1.1 → https://git.io/fjPTc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 21 commits to master: https://git.io/fjXHY
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<clever> wildtrees: if installed from the same nixpkgs, it will point to the same storepath for both users
<wildtrees> I havent updated anything and there is two different hashes
<wildtrees> could that be from programs needing different versions?
<clever> wildtrees: what is the full path to the library?
<wildtrees> in nix store? there are two from what looks like the same library
<__monty__> clever-senpai: I caved and just downloaded and extracted the .pkg for darwin. Can you ever forgive me?
<clever> wildtrees: yeah, what is the full path to both of them
<clever> __monty__: dont worry, i was doing the exact same thing for daedalus initially :P
<erictapen> mkaito: well I got to the point where serenity is failing to build, but got no further. really weird that it does not find the reqwest crate. I give up, good luck!
<clever> __monty__: i just unpacked the darwin pkg, and ran electron against it
<clever> __monty__: it would be interesting to find the JS files in both the debian and darwin builds, and diff them, to see why they differ
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<mkaito> erictapen: yeah I gave up too and just made buildRustPackage use an updated rustc instead. thanks a lot for trying though!
<wildtrees> clever, gimme a min so I can cut and paste
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<wildtrees> /nix/store/wmry6hqygyysl97iflc3z7vg03imklvh-openssl-1.0.2r/lib/libssl.so
<wildtrees> and
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<wildtrees> /nix/store/c8k8dl7k6hahagzzkyw501dp1548sp99-openssl-1.0.2r/lib/libssl.so
<symphorien> you can use nix-diff to see what they have different
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<symphorien> and by the way, you should not install libraries with nix-env
<symphorien> ,libraries
<{^_^}> Don't install libraries through nix-env or systemPackages, use nix-shell instead. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/Libraries for details.
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<clever> $ nix-diff $(nix-store -q --deriver /nix/store/wmry6hqygyysl97iflc3z7vg03imklvh-openssl-1.0.2r) $(nix-store -q --deriver /nix/store/c8k8dl7k6hahagzzkyw501dp1548sp99-openssl-1.0.2r)
<clever> wildtrees: one is the bootstrap tools openssl, the other is the non-bootstrap openssl
<clever> wildtrees: how did you wind up with that ssl in your profile?
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<wildtrees> I installed it via nix-env as a non special user to try to get a local install of perl6 to recognize it
<clever> ,libraries wildtrees
<{^_^}> wildtrees: Don't install libraries through nix-env or systemPackages, use nix-shell instead. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/Libraries for details.
<ashkitten> when i ssh into my computer with a command it says it can't find that command. still works if i use an absolute path, but it's kinda weird
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<symphorien> ssh does not source /etc/profile or whatever hook nix uses to set the path
<ashkitten> if i log in with an interactive session it finds the command just fine
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<ashkitten> oh
<ashkitten> how do i.. make that work
<clever> ashkitten: .bash_profile vs .bashrc
<clever> ensure both update PATH
<symphorien> bash sources nothing with non interactive non login shells
<clever> you can test it with `ssh user@host nix-store --version`
<symphorien> the only solution I found is zsh
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<clever> symphorien: it does still source one of them, i cant remember which
<ashkitten> i'm using zsh but didn't enable programs.zsh because the default zsh startup scripts were setting prompt stuff i didn't like
<symphorien> I could not find it when I tried
<ashkitten> i'm guessing that's the issue
<clever> symphorien: just confirmed, ~/.bashrc is ran, on the gentoo machine, with non-interactive shells
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<symphorien> ah ok
<ashkitten> sadly i can't actually do any testing right now while my zpool is scrubbing
<clever> one problem i did run into, is that darwin's bash, will only source ~/.bashrc, and nothing from /etc/
<clever> so you cant just fix it system wide
<ashkitten> it'd slow down everything to a crawl
<clever> you must fix it for every single user, one by one
<ashkitten> i was actually really annoyed at programs.zsh.enable setting things like prompt behavior and such when i didn't expect it to. i might make a pr to nixpkgs to make it less annoying
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<__monty__> clever: Sounds like something I can look into tomorrow. Should I bother PR'ing my current version of the derivation to nixpkgs?
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<clever> __monty__: maybe open the pr, and mark it as being 90% done, so people can begin to comment on it
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<__monty__> Alright, adding to my TODOs for tomorrow : )
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #64823 → khard: 0.13.0 -> 0.14.0 → https://git.io/fjXS1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar merged pull request #64826 → libstrangle: init at 2017-02-22 → https://git.io/fjX9r
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar pushed commit from @aske to master « libstrangle: init at 2017-02-22 »: https://git.io/fjXH9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64831 → libraw: 0.19.2 -> 0.19.3 → https://git.io/fjXH7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir opened pull request #64832 → i3status-rust: 0.9.0.2019-04-27 -> 0.10.0 → https://git.io/fjXHF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Zimmi48 opened pull request #64833 → coqPackages.math-classes: 8.8.1 -> 8.9.1 → https://git.io/fjXHN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64834 → libdap: 3.20.3 -> 3.20.4 → https://git.io/fjXQY
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<gchristensen> teto: are you on 19.03 or unstable?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer closed pull request #64556 → monoid: 2016-07-21 -> 0.61 → https://git.io/fjPkc
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e2ad04c513e (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.03-small)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc opened pull request #64835 → networkmanager-l2tp: 1.2.10 -> 1.2.12 → https://git.io/fjXQK
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<gchristensen> hrm actually that PR doesn't work.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64836 → metabase: 0.32.2 -> 0.32.9 → https://git.io/fjXQS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @herrwiese opened pull request #64837 → Nextcloud 16.0.x → https://git.io/fjXQ5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64839 → matomo: 3.9.1 -> 3.10.0 → https://git.io/fjX7T
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<alienpirate5> Is there a way to do something like this, but in a way that actually works? http://ix.io/1OC1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64840 → mpop: 1.4.4 -> 1.4.5 → https://git.io/fjX7c
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @herrwiese opened pull request #64841 → Nextcloud 16.0.x 19.03 → https://git.io/fjX7B
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64842 → lxcfs: 3.0.3 -> 3.0.4 → https://git.io/fjX7R
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<gchristensen> alienpirate5: why doesn't it work?
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<growpotkin> where my LISPers at? I can't get `ssl` to play nice
<pamplemo1sse> are there any style guide for contributing to nixpkgs?
<growpotkin> pamplemo1sse: I don't think there are any published, but just make a PR and wait for someone to nit pick which is what always happens to me lol
<growpotkin> pamplemo1sse: But there are a few basic ones in the contributors guide.
<infinisil> pamplemo1sse: Did you look in the nixpkgs manual?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nyarly opened pull request #64843 → (fish): remove cmake flag → https://git.io/fjX7y
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<hexa-> Fatal error: glibc detected an invalid stdio handle
<hexa-> /run/current-system/sw/bin/nixos-rebuild: line 208: 27470 Aborted (core dumped) nix-channel --update nixos
<hexa-> andi-: ^ :)
<gchristensen> :/
<gchristensen> do you have systemd.coredump.enable turned on?
<hexa-> Mon 2019-07-15 23:55:23 CEST 27470 0 0 6 truncated /nix/store/nqpyfg13b9bpr7ihrfqhndckzmldnr5g-nix-2.2.2/bin/nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64844 → monit: 5.25.3 -> 5.26.0 → https://git.io/fjX7H
<gchristensen> I don't know what to do from here, I'm hoping you can extract some helpful info
<hexa-> the last time I got a backtrace it was curl related
<hexa-> either way I'll increase core file limits
<gchristensen> ah...
<gchristensen> maybe you could install dwarffs to get symbols
<andi-> I suspect curl and some issue that I read a few weeks ago
<andi-> I looked into that when we first encountered it here.. We are trying the dwarffs route now to get some more (up2date) insights
<gchristensen> ok cool
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<pamplemo1sse> infinisil: there is a contributing section, but it does not cover much in term of style in the package declaration
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice merged pull request #64836 → metabase: 0.32.2 -> 0.32.9 → https://git.io/fjXQS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « metabase: 0.32.2 -> 0.32.9 »: https://git.io/fjX7h
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<andi-> dwarrfs really expects people to be on the flakes track just yet... :/
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<clever> andi-: there an idea i had before, if you build a package with splitDebug = true;, then you get a .debug output on it
<clever> andi-: in theory, you could then have a gdb plugin, that will use `nix-store --query --deriver` to find the drv behind a path, then `nix-store --query --binding debug` to find its .debug, and dynamically load that
<andi-> I usually deal with it using just nix but thought dwarffs might be a good idea..
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<ashkitten> so what's the deal with the wiki these days? when i first started using nixos it was all hands on deck trying to move the wiki to the manual, but the manual still seems incomplete and people keep pointing to the wiki periodically for tips on things
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<ashkitten> hm
<ashkitten> sort of
<ashkitten> i still think a wiki should still be around for extra info about specific thincs that don't belong in a manual
<ashkitten> wikis also have a very low bar to entry compared to making pull requests on documentation
<ashkitten> it's a different paradigm and i think one that's necessary to help share info about things that aren't just nix/nixos/nixpkgs itself
<samueldr> ashkitten: https://nixos.wiki/ ?
<ashkitten> yes, but a lot of things say that the wiki is deprecated, yeah?
<samueldr> the previous wiki was
<ashkitten> ok
<ashkitten> i was asking about that
<samueldr> some background
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<samueldr> this wiki, nixos.wiki is definitely not deprecated :)
<ashkitten> ok
<ashkitten> i haven't kept up lol
<samueldr> no worries
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<samueldr> google hasn't, too; it decided to delist the wiki for a couple weeks the last month :/
<samueldr> though now everything seems alright
<ashkitten> i joined during the whole "move the wiki!" thing
<ashkitten> which seemed like utter nonsense to me
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64845 → libwebp: 1.0.2 -> 1.0.3 → https://git.io/fjX5Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @magnetophon opened pull request #64846 → GxPlugins: 0.5->0.7 → https://git.io/fjX5C
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<{^_^}> [rfcs] @edolstra opened pull request #49 → [RFC 0049] Flakes → https://git.io/fjX5E
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #64847 → mujs: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 → https://git.io/fjX5u
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64728 → gnome3.gnome-boxes: fix hardcoded emulator path → https://git.io/fjXRv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjX52
<gchristensen> state is so evil
<day|flip> evil?
<gchristensen> yes
<day|flip> enlighten me
<gchristensen> problems exist one moment, and don't the next
<gchristensen> source is some state somewhere
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<ldlework> death to the state!
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<gchristensen> yes, exactly, death to my filesystem's state!
<andi-> gchristensen: have you though about using a micro SD card (with those R/O switches) for your system? ;-)
<gchristensen> :P
<day|flip> kind of reminds me of my udev rule issue i been having. mostly cuz. I been pointing my subsystem to "hwmon". But should be been using "hwmon2"
<gchristensen> yes... but `zfs diff` is being useful to my debugging https://gist.github.com/grahamc/4fc6303e33dcf8c9e68a44954e35aacb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #64848 → matomo: 3.9.1 -> 3.10.0 → https://git.io/fjX5S
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64840 → mpop: 1.4.4 -> 1.4.5 → https://git.io/fjX7c
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