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<infinisil> Netsu: That's not an environment variable, that's just a nix function argument
<infinisil> Netsu: I think maybe something like `self: super: { pkg = { newFlag ? true; }: super.pkg.overrideAttrs (drv: { drv.configureFlags ++ super.lib.optional newFlag "--new-flag"; }); }`
<infinisil> is what you could use
<Netsu> ok, so at top-level nix expression I would to `mypkg.override { newFlag = valueThatDependOnArgument }` which I got as imported from the overlay
<infinisil> That however is not possible with what I showed
<Netsu> so if I would use additional arguments set, it wouldn't join to the original one, is it? So I woldn't able to override it later, right?
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<infinisil> Generally yeah, .override is usually just for the arguments of a single function
<infinisil> Try to play around with pkgs.callPackage and see how it works
<Netsu> looks like I need kinda currying =)
<infinisil> I suggest just defining a new function
<infinisil> Instead of trying to force .override into taking another argument, which is ugly to do
<infinisil> As I showed above
<infinisil> Then use `pkg { newFlag = false; }` to get the customized versionr
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<Netsu> infinisil: maybe it would work, if I do something like: `args@{ newFlag ? true, ... }: pkg.override { inherit (args) ... }`
<Netsu> not a valid nix yet, though..
<Netsu> and it wouldn't still accept the new flag, doh
<infinisil> I really can't guess anymore what you're trying to do..
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<infinisil> If you have a problem, act as if this is an issue tracker and post a way to reproduce the problem, show how far you've gotten
<infinisil> It's really hard to help otherwise
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<Netsu35> infinisil: Maybe your suggestion is most practical for now, thanks. But inconsistent a little.
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<Netsu35> infinisil: thank you for help anyway
<infinisil> Alright np
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fji1m
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 opened pull request #64463 → nixos/graylog: minor fixes, add test → https://git.io/fji1Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64429 → vscode-extensions.ms-vscode.cpptools: 0.23.1 -> 0.24.0 → https://git.io/fji8H
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fji1s
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64439 → opera: 60.0.3255.170 -> 62.0.3331.43 → https://git.io/fjiuT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fji1l
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<switchy> there's probably no easy way to search for packages which depend on a certain package, is there? I'm trying to figure out how to make pygtk3 stuff work, which uses typelib files in lib/girepository-1.0. the gtk and gtksource packages put thier typelib files there, but pango doesn't
<gchristensen> https://search.nix.gsc.io/?q=typelib is how I usually debug things like that
<ivan> rg -w
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<gchristensen> yeah but hound has a precomputed index :P
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<Riley> Is there still any way to get unified GTK and Qt styling? On my Arch box I had qt5ct which seemed to work, and there's documentation about `qt5.qtbase.gtk` in NixOS but that seems to be out of date
<ivan> 0.2 seconds without an index on 4 cores :-)
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<switchy> ah whatever, I did pangoEnv = pkgs.buildEnv { name = "pango"; paths = [ pango.out ]; }; in my config.nix, seems to have worked
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<AnswerGuy> How would I add an entry (IP hostname) to /etc/hosts under NixOS (for ssh access to a container: to host: https://github.com/fort-nix/nix-bitcoin)?
<clever> AnswerGuy: networking.hosts and networking.extraHosts
<AnswerGuy> Looks like: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/489511/1036 might be involved (modify nixos.config)?
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<AnswerGuy> Okay, then what do I do to rebuild/update the OS after modifying that file? (Yes, I really am that green on NixOS)
<gchristensen> after editing /etc/nixos/configuration.nix, sudo nixos-rebuild switch
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<AnswerGuy> Oh, so "nixos.config" is shorthand for /etc/nixos/configuration.nix ... (in that StackExchange article)?
<gchristensen> I don't know what nixos.config is
<gchristensen> ah. the answer says "nixos config", and yeah, by default config lives at /etc/nixos/configuration.nix
<AnswerGuy> Yeah, from the linked article; looks like the writer was being imprecise or referring to some other configuration alternative.
<gchristensen> which article?
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<AnswerGuy> The one I linked to ... you just commented on it. (article == answer on StackExchange)
<gchristensen> right. they weren't being imprecise, I think you misread it a bit -- they say "the nixos config" , where you read it to say "the nixos.config" -- the dot makes it seem much more precise, but there is not one
<gchristensen> (anyway, it doesn't matter, we sorted it :))
<AnswerGuy> Yeah, might be time for me to get reading glasses. Fonts seem smaller than they used to. Not sure how much of that is modern displays and GUI settings and how much is age. :)
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<lordcirth__> Zoom in, it's cheaper :P
<jackdk> stop using grey-on-grey websites :p
<AnswerGuy> So I just did a stupid cut-n-paste: nixops create network/network.nix network/network-vbox.nix -d bitcoin-node
<AnswerGuy> ... but I meant to do that as: nixops create network/network.nix network/network-vbox.nix -d bitcoin-node
<AnswerGuy> ... but I meant to do that as: nixops create network/network.nix network/network.nix -d bitcoin-node
<AnswerGuy> NOT "vbox"
<AnswerGuy> How do I delete any artifacts created by that -d bitcoin-node?
<AnswerGuy> (Or roll them back out of existence, or whatever)?
<AnswerGuy> (In other words how do I get rid of this issue: "state file contains multiple deployments with the same name"
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<gchristensen> nixops
<gchristensen> oops
<gchristensen> list the deployments (nixops list I think,) then delete the one you don't want (nixops delete I think)
<AnswerGuy> Thanks.
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<AnswerGuy> hmmm, it complains that one of those "still has resources" (even though I don't have VirtualBox installed, so that deployment failed)
<AnswerGuy> So, how do I truly nuke that deployment and all associated resources?
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<lordcirth__> AnswerGuy, you need to 'destroy' before you can delete.
<lordcirth__> (carefully)
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<AnswerGuy> Yeah this system is just dev for now; I'll nuke the whole system and start from scratch before I go into production.
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<AnswerGuy> But, thanks for the warning. :)
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<Riley> Came on earlier but had to disconnect, in light of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/20017 is there any way to set Qt apps to use my GTK theme? I swear qt5ct worked on Arch, but the gtk2 style plugin doesn't show up for me even with qt styleplugins installed...
<{^_^}> #20017 (by ambrop72, 2 years ago, open): Cannot make Qt 5 applications look like GTK applications
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/13b81560307 (from 7 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<zacts_pi> evening #nixos
<zacts_pi> so I'm having a difficult time logging into various WiFi networks, including my university network
<zacts_pi> I connect, and then load a GUI browser to click an [I accept terms of use] button
<zacts_pi> then it fails to load the page
<zacts_pi> I had this issue with previous versions of Ubuntu and upgrading to a newer release of Ubuntu fixed it in the past
<zacts_pi> I wonder what I can do on NixOS to remedy this issue
<zacts_pi> I have tried upgrading to the latest stable Linux kernel, and I'm testing upgrading to a newer networkmanager
<zacts_pi> the newer kernel config didn't fix it
<zacts_pi> I might try a different web browser as well
<zacts_pi> So I guess my question is more of, is this a known issue?
<zacts_pi> I'm on NixOS 19.03
<{^_^}> [nixops] @johnalotoski opened pull request #1179 → Nixops Core, Plugin Restructuring PR → https://git.io/fjiM3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #64464 → pythonPackages.github-webhook: unstable-2016-03-11 to 1.0.2 → https://git.io/fjiMs
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<zacts_pi> yeah it's the oddest issue. I'll look into it.
<day|flip> i been trying iwd. im not sure how will it can work with networkmanager
<day|flip> iwd is a replacement to wpa_supplicant
<zacts_pi> oh cool
<zacts_pi> I'll have to look into that
<day|flip> i also deal with CP connection
<zacts_pi> dows iwd have a command line tool to control it?
<zacts_pi> that's all I care about
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64433 → gitAndTools.git-gone: init at 0.1.2 → https://git.io/fjiBc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjiMr
<zacts_pi> and that it can auto connect
<day|flip> ya
<zacts_pi> oh cool
<zacts_pi> I'll definitely check it out
<day|flip> iwctl
<zacts_pi> thanks
<day|flip> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Iwd just to learn more about it
<day|flip> networking.wireless.iwd.enable = true; to enable it
<zacts_pi> nice, thanks
<day|flip> I only been testing this at home. i have not try thing like coffee shop
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<zacts_pi> ok
<zacts_pi> worst case scenario I'll just reboot back into what I currently have
<zacts_pi> s/reboot/rollback/
<Riley> iwctl has been amazing compared to wpa_cli and networkmanager
<Riley> At least in my experience
<zacts_pi> nice
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<selfsymmetric-mu> I just get `Waiting for IWD to appear...`.
<selfsymmetric-mu> If I were to switch I'd want to replace `nmcli radio wifi off/on`, `nmcli dev wifi`, and `nmcli radio wifi`.
<zacts_pi> selfsymmetric-mu: maybe you have to also disable networkmanager?
<zacts_pi> I'll test it out too in just a bit
<selfsymmetric-mu> zacts_pi: I removed my `service.network.networkmanager = true` line, so I thought I did.
<selfsymmetric-mu> Thanks though!
<zacts_pi> selfsymmetric-mu: I think you'll need networking.wireless.enable = false; and either remove the netowrking.networkmanager.enable = true; line or set it to false first
<zacts_pi> the main line that needs to be explicitly set is networking.wireless.enable = false; I think
<zacts_pi> I'll test it out once I'm done with this project I'm working on
<zacts_pi> (I need my current connection for a bit)
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<elvishjerricco> Since nixpkgs requires Nix 2.0 now, can't we use fetchGit in order to callPackage the nix expression in a repo without using IFD or recursive Nix?
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<elvishjerricco> Same with fetchTarball for tar'ed sources?
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<selfsymmetric-mu> zacts_pi
<selfsymmetric-mu> zacts_pi: No dice, sorry. But nmcli was been working for me so that's okay. Thanks anyway though!
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/38c7c5d3229 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<teto> does someone know how to control firefox's current working directory. I can't unfold the nixos test logs with firefox because it can't find the js file (relative path). It works fine with qutebrowser
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<zacts_pi> selfsymmetric-mu: I'm chatting via iwd right now on a home network
<zacts_pi> it's working for me here
<zacts_pi> I will test it out on my university network tomorrow
<ajirx> lj1jhjkkk
<ajirx> hmm, sorry
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<pie_> so do i add cnijfilter to my system.printing.drivers or what
<pie_> ok apparently yes
<pie_> damn looks like i already added it
<pie_> im looking at a canon mx515 with no idea what to do with it
<pie_> hmm something suggests it might be covere dby whatever gutenprint-ppd is
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<kiloreux> How can I clean my s3 nix binary cache ?
<kiloreux> Garbage collect i mean
<kiloreux> Couldn't find anything about it online
<srhb> kiloreux: There isn't really any way to do that.
<srhb> kiloreux: THere are some hacky scripts floating around but none really work well.
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<kiloreux> Ahh :( . So what would you recommend? Just setting up a new s3 bucket?
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<srhb> kiloreux: THe only way I've found using an S3 bucket pleasant is by never deleting anything.
<srhb> Like the cache.nixos.org one.
<kiloreux> Doesn't that slow down things on the downloading endpoint?
<kiloreux> Or I am just looking in the wrong places.
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<srhb> What do you mean "downloading endpoint" ?
<srhb> I don't know if S3 scales poorly with number of objects, but I would be very surprised if it does in any meaningful way.
<srhb> THen again, most of the internet is shit, so.. :-)
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<kiloreux> I mean my machine downloading the objects slowly. (Compared to when the binary cache was smaller)
<srhb> I doubt it.
<srhb> You're querying known hashes each time, I expect the lookup time to be extremely small.
<kiloreux> Thank you very much srhb . It seems I have been looking in the wrong place.
<kiloreux> You probably saved me lots of time. Thanks.
<srhb> No problem!
<kiloreux> I am having troubles with glibLocales and I couldn't find a way to fix it yet. I found this here https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/38991#issuecomment-496332104 but it's not an option for me to run nix-build since I run everything through `nix-env`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 4 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjiDM
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<robstrrr> Good morning, facing a "SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60)" error while running "nixos-rebuild switch" which is unable to download the cache. I have the feeling I'm just facing this issue in the company network - some ideas how to resolve the issue ?
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<clever> robstrrr: is the date/time correct?
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<robstrrr> clever, yes it is - I had the same issue yesterday but in a different network it was working. I believe it has to do with the company settings
<clever> robstrrr: captive portals?
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<dminuoso> Or generally a sneaky/misbehaving/buggy DNS resolver?
<robstrrr> clever, should be no restriction. Everything else works
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<robstrrr> dminuoso, how could I verify this ?
<dminuoso> robstrrr: Do you see the hostname in question?
<clever> robstrrr: what IP does `dig` return, both inside and outside the network?
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<dminuoso> robstrrr: I would honestly also use wireshark.
<robstrrr> dminuoso, the complete message is: "warning: unable to download 'https://cache.nixos.org/.....narinfo': SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60) retrying"
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<dminuoso> robstrrr: Compare `dig cache.nixos.org` with `host cache.nixos.org`
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<dminuoso> Or `dig A cache.nixos.org +short` if you prefer
<dminuoso> All answers should give you a single A record with `151.101.14.217`
<robstrrr> dminuoso, unfortunatly dig is not avail. and installing it right now not possible due to this error. - host cache.nixos.org did not list this ip (similiar ones like : 151.101.66.217)
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<dminuoso> robstrrr: Wait until `dig` is available.
<robstrrr> dminuoso, thanks for the help
<dminuoso> (`host` uses your system resolver afaik, so its subject to any potential caching going on in there)
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<dminuoso> Oh interesting, `host` is actually quite similar to `dig`.
<dminuoso> Seems I was wrong.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #64432 → rubocop: 0.71.0 -> 0.72.0 → https://git.io/fjiB3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjiyq
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<elvishjerricco> Tried to bootstrap nixos with `nix build --substituters "" --store /foo -f "<nixpkgs/nixos>" --arg configuration '{}' vm`, but I got `error: moving build output '/nix/store/kjqdwl76vp9wclcxpw2xmh0z73rq95py-documentation-highlighter' from the sandbox to the Nix store: Permission denied`
<teto> regarding the nixos tests, I have a few questions about the networking part. So it relies on VDE. Can VMs access the outside world ? must they be configured statically or can there be dhcp ? I am running some nixos tests with networkmanager and I wonder about bad interactions with the default config. Some interfaces can't get a dhcp answer .(I was surprised to see no tests for networkmanager either)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @uri-canva opened pull request #64467 → jetbrains.idea-community: add darwin support → https://git.io/fjiyP
<asheshambasta> Anyone here using clipmenu on nixos? I'm running clipmenud as a `spawnOnce` from within xmonad; and I've got services.clipmenu.enable = true ; in my nix config; but it seems that clipmenu is issuing errors in the background (and nothing I copy shows up in my clipboard): ```Jul 09 09:18:46 quasar-nixos-tr xsession[1967]: rm: cannot remove '/run/user/1000/clipmenu.5.ashesh//903472502 36': No such file or directory
<asheshambasta> ```
<asheshambasta> AFAICS, clipmenu works correctly right after a boot, but stops working after a suspend.
<abbiya> i am trying to install docker using nix on ubuntu
<abbiya> how do i start dockerd as systemd service ?
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<abbiya> i saw the dockerd service def is available in .nix-profile
<musicmatze> you cannot install system services with nix on non-nixos systems afaik
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<abbiya> oh
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<dminuoso> abbiya: There are multiple things attached to `nix`. There is nix the package manager using nixpkgs, and nixos which is effectively nix modules plus some other bits.
<abbiya> yes
<abbiya> i am on ubuntu
<dminuoso> abbiya: nix derivation/nixpkgs/nix the package manager all relate to things inside /nix/store, which is basically a way to talk about packages in isolation. nix modules are a way to talk about the system/filesystem/services/kernel
<dminuoso> abbiya: So if you hvae nix on ubuntu, you just have access to the first part.
<abbiya> okay
<dminuoso> Since what you have, is nix the package manager.
<etu> abbiya: you can define your own service files for systemd on ubuntu to run services from things you installed in the nix store though
<etu> But that's a manual step for each service
<abbiya> i just want to run dockerd as systemd service
<abbiya> docker.service is there is ~/.nix-profile/etc/systemd/system
<abbiya> yeah
<abbiya> but the definition has wrong paths to dockerd
<etu> Has it?
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<abbiya> yes
<{^_^}> #63024 (by gnidorah, 3 weeks ago, open): midisheetmusic: always bring timidity dependency
<musicmatze> abbiya: what is wrong?
<abbiya> the service file has /usr/bin/dockerd as path
<musicmatze> lol
<abbiya> but the dockerd is there in .nix-profile/bin
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<Taneb> If I were to make a PR adding some vim plugins to nixpkgs, would it be better if I make one PR with all of them, or a PR for each, which would tread on each other's toes a bit
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<FRidh> Taneb: one PR, though possibly a commit per plugin
<Taneb> FRidh: :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #64470 → pythonPackages.pytricia: unstable-2019-01-16 -> 1.0.0 → https://git.io/fjiS7
<immae> ,lookup nslookup
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-19.03 « Merge #63928: llvm_7: disable libpfm on aarch64 »: https://git.io/fjiS5
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<immae> ,locate nslookup
<{^_^}> Found in packages: zsh, busybox, bind.dnsutils, bash-completion
<immae> Thanks {^_^}
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Taneb opened pull request #64473 → New vim plugins → https://git.io/fjiSh
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<boeg> Is it possible to set up a nix env so that things doesn't "bleed through"? Like I'd like to have a project specific environment where I'm sure nothing but what I have defined in my default.nix is available. If I install python and pip, I'm sure that I'm using those to defined, and that installing a module with pip makes it contained inside the environment and doesn't bleed through to the global environment?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #63911 → nixos/release-notes: fix bad merge of cargo-vendor entry and formatting → https://git.io/fjoPm
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<yorick> so I'm packaging alertmanager and I have a non-overridable config file with secrets in it. the current way is to write it to a nix store and then run a user-specified sed over it in a prestart. is there a better way?
<yorick> at least it could be substituteAll nowadays
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<immae> boeg: you cannot ensure that in a reasonnable "usable" environment: a program can always hardcode a "/usr/bin/foo" or "/home/your_user/.local/lib" string and that means it will bleed out of it’s confinment. During builds (with nix-build) you have a very restricted environment (a sandbox) because no user interacts with it, but not in other situations
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<immae> boeg: you can start a nix shell that is "pure" and contains a very limited environment though, but you still have a HOME=/home/your_user and nothing prevents you from adding /usr/bin to your PATH or other actions that will end up with a non completely isolated shell
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<boeg> immae: hmm, okay, makes sense, thanks
<Miyu-chan> I swear.
<Miyu-chan> Why does systemd have a JavaScript dependency lmao
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<dminuoso> Miyu-chan: It does what?
<qyliss^work> polkit
<qyliss^work> polkit rules are written in JavaScript
<Miyu-chan> It was kinda rhetorical. :P
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<Miyu-chan> http://ix.io/1O6i
<Miyu-chan> Or I guess `nix-store -qR /run/current-system | grep spidermonkey` works just as well.
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<Miyu-chan> But yeah. All NixOS installations have spidermonkey.
<Miyu-chan> More on this here. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/8989
<{^_^}> #8989 (by deepfire, 3 years ago, closed): insanity: polkit depends on spidermonkey
<qyliss^work> i love the future
<Miyu-chan> qyliss^work: :)
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<Miyu-chan> Anyways, TIL, spidermonkey is not as huge as I thought it is?
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:/]$ nix-store --dump /nix/store/v0hl256ighb2qdycqv1f199gjbhlpfk5-spidermonkey-52.9.0/ | dd of=/dev/null 2> >(tail -n1)
<Miyu-chan> 25402288 bytes (25 MB, 24 MiB) copied, 0.0823361 s, 309 MB/s
<Miyu-chan> I mean, I think the largest piece of software I have on this desktop is ghc.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xbreak opened pull request #64474 → cfitsio: 3.450 -> 3.470 → https://git.io/fji9p
<sauyon> how do I stop these stupid "can't set locale" errors from showing up?"'
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<sauyon> that may have been rather aggressive for no real reason...
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<danderson> generally, I think the "can't set locale" errors happen when (surprise) locales aren't configured. Unfortunately I don't know how to fix that on nixos :/
<sauyon> Haha, that's not surprising, yeah. I think the problem is I'm on Arch. I've tried installing the nixos locale packages (`nix search -u locale` doesn't show anything though, random other problem...) but that didn't seem to work :/
<danderson> in general, on a non-nixos system, you'd have to edit /etc/locale.conf to set `lang=en_US.UTF-8` (or whatever locale you want), uncomment desired "available" locales in /etc/locale.gen, then run `locale-gen` to update stuff
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<danderson> oh, you're running nix on another OS
<danderson> well, the thing I said above is exactly what I had to do on my arch system
<danderson> but I'd expect other things to be complaining if the systemwide locales aren't configured...
<seshachalamm> i am using nix on ubuntu
<sauyon> yeah, my /usr/bin/locale has no issues
<sauyon> so I really don't know what the problem is :(
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<seshachalamm> and apt does not seem to know anything about things that i installed from nix
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<danderson> sauyon: what operations make nix complain?
<sauyon> well, that's not really surprising, is it xP
<sauyon> man, pretty much
<sauyon> er, the command `man` :P
<danderson> hm
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<sauyon> it doesn't seem to search my system locale path
<danderson> yeah, all I can find on the interweb is "check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale and see if anything is wrong", which isn't very helpful...
<danderson> (that's generic advice, not nix-specific)
<sauyon> well, locale seems to work with Arch packages fine xP
<sauyon> (also, how do I make `nix search` work?)
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<danderson> I'm not much help unfortunately, I've got maybe a couple hours of playing with nix, in nixos
<danderson> I'm mostly just here for moral support :(
<sauyon> hey that's something at least :)
<danderson> hmm, does archwiki have a page on nix?
<danderson> hm, yeah, but nothing very helpful...
<sauyon> yep, only a bit short :P
<danderson> just some stuff about permissions on /nix, nothing else
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<sauyon> it's pretty out of date too, most of it is handled by the archlinux-nix script now I think
<danderson> hmm, okay, so my guess is that nix is building completely isolated packages, so they're not searching the standard locale path for stuff
<sauyon> would make sense
<danderson> I found https://nixos.org/nix-dev/2010-August/005074.html , which suggests setting the LOCALE_ARCHIVE envvar to point to your system locale configs
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<danderson> that's from 2010 though, no idea if it's still accurate
<sauyon> I think there was old issue saying something like that yeah
<danderson> or install `glibc-locales` in nix
<sauyon> have that installed, unfortunately
<danderson> hrm, how annoying
<danderson> well, I'm on arch and I don't have anything to do, lemme install nix and see what's up :)
<sauyon> thanks!
<danderson> so you installed `archlinux-nix` from AUR? Want to make sure I reproduce your setup precisely
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<sauyon> installing nix from the AUR installs and runs it now, I think
<sauyon> (it's what I did)
<danderson> got it
<danderson> nix building now...
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<sauyon> ah, I figured out the `nix` thing: `NIX_PATH` needs a `nixpkgs=` prefixed value
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<atlas_> you can use nix on top of other distros?
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<manveru> atlas_: sure
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #64473 → New vim plugins → https://git.io/fjiSh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/fjiHS
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<sauyon> this way I can learn nix without it being a serious blocker to productivity when stuff doesn't work because of arcane stdlib hacks in the c compilers :P
<clever> atlas_: as long as you can write to /nix/ and have a linux or darwin kernel, nix will work
<clever> android is even an option if you root it or use namespacing
<sauyon> I thought you could set the nix store location these days
<Miyu-chan> Uh, what is that undocumented function that builds a list again?
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<clever> you can change the directory, but not all packages support that, and changing it also causes a rebuild
<sauyon> I *think* my friend has nix working on department machines, though not sure what hacks he's used :P
<Miyu-chan> genericClosure?
<manveru> Miyu-chan: like buildEnv?
<clever> Miyu-chan: genericClosure takes a list of things, and a function from thing->[things], and will recursively call it on each thing, without causing infinite recursion
<clever> Miyu-chan: the module framework uses genericClosure to go thru the imports = [ ./thing.nix ]; recursively, while allowing cycles to exist
<Miyu-chan> Yeah, I think I need genericClosure to get a graph f propagatedBuildInputs, right?
<clever> and it will dedup along the way, so if 2 things both imports thing.nix, you only get thing.nix listed once
<Miyu-chan> Rather, to flatten.
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<clever> Miyu-chan: propagated inputs exist mostly after the build is done, so you cant fully read them from nix
<immae> ,locate mail
<{^_^}> Found in packages: go, h2, gimp, solr, byobu, emacs, epic5, jetty, nexus, quilt, gwt240, jmeter, librep, tt-rss, emacs25, go_1_10, go_1_11, mailman, funambol, cytoscape, gogs.data, logstash5, mailutils, plan9port, roundcube, gitea.data, i3pystatus, emacs25-nox, emacs26-nox, phabricator, go_bootstrap, konversation, logstash6-oss, vimPlugins.ale, vimPlugins.caw, gnome3.evolution, gimp-with-plugins, vimPlugins.CheckAttach, and 7 more
<Miyu-chan> I'm trying to track down which of these libraries rely on cairo.
<Miyu-chan> And it's not on the direct dependency. :s
<clever> Miyu-chan: nix why-depends is your solution
<manveru> ,locate bin mail
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# nix-store -qR /run/current-system | grep cairo
<clever> /nix/store/yprl6y9p8apy7bqkmzlszqvpl1fga3hi-cairo-1.16.0
<{^_^}> Found in packages: mailutils
<Miyu-chan> clever: Doesn't work, because propagatedBuildInputs makes cairo a direct dependency.
<clever> Miyu-chan: this lists every cairo that current-system depends on
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# nix why-depends /run/current-system /nix/store/yprl6y9p8apy7bqkmzlszqvpl1fga3hi-cairo-1.16.0
<clever> and this shows the path
<clever> Miyu-chan: use --all then
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:~/Development/NixOSEncryptedLiveCD]$ nix why-depends nixpkgs.duplicity nixpkgs.cairo
<Miyu-chan> /nix/store/g8zh3al0b1q35w6ri1aph6486snhibcr-duplicity-0.7.18.2
<Miyu-chan> ╚═══bin/..duplicity-wrapped-wrapped: ….7-chardet-3.0.4/bin:/nix/store/17gs7i8ci66ggm1897apswzg1dnk4msj-cairo-1.16.0-dev/bin:/nix/store
<Miyu-chan> Oh.
<Miyu-chan> True.
<Miyu-chan> Lmao
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<Miyu-chan> Thanks lol. Of course.
<Miyu-chan> And it's gobject, what else was I expecting
<atlas_> this channel is super active. Are most like this? I'm usually only in #freenode and #archlinux
<atlas_> this is great
<qyliss^work> This is a very active channel.
<Taneb> atlas_: some are, some aren't. This is one of the more active ones
<Ashy> #vim is fairly active too
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64476 → movit: 1.6.2 -> 1.6.3 → https://git.io/fjiQf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64477 → ponyc: 0.28.1 -> 0.29.0 → https://git.io/fjiQU
<Miyu-chan> AaaaaA.
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<Miyu-chan> I'm so close to making this fit under 2 GB. I just need to remove cairo from pygobject.
<clever> Miyu-chan: the fishy thing i see, ..duplicity-wrapped-wrapped
<clever> Miyu-chan: is that a wrapped wrapper?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64478 → stern: 1.10.0 -> 1.11.0 → https://git.io/fjiQT
<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:~/Development/NixOSEncryptedLiveCD]$ nix path-info --closure-size --human-readable nixpkgs.python3Packages.pygobject3
<Miyu-chan> /nix/store/y0wxq40h4vyzpd0kz4wsl7mxyw08aqvz-python3.7-pygobject-3.30.4 123.8M
<Miyu-chan> clever: And yes lol
<clever> Miyu-chan: have you tried replacing it with your own wrapper, that only does the bare minimum?
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<yorick> Miyu-chan: why are the python closures always so big
<Miyu-chan> Seems like too much work than pruning IMO.
<clever> Miyu-chan: its usually very simple to make a wrapper for a python thing
<Miyu-chan> yorick: FWIW, it also pulls python themselves.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64479 → notable: 1.4.0 -> 1.6.0 → https://git.io/fjiQt
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<Miyu-chan> Oh great. This also relies on gtk+. of course.
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<yorick> Miyu-chan: graphite is a 500MB closure and I have no clue why
<clever> yorick: one sec...
<Miyu-chan> Aw crap.
<Miyu-chan> Turns out I only fixed one problem.
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# du -hc --max=0 $(nix-store -qR /run/current-system) | sort -h | tail -n5
<clever> yorick: run this on the path of graphite
<Miyu-chan> pinentry no longer relies on GTK3, but it still relies on GTK2. SIgh.
<clever> Miyu-chan: does it even need pinentry?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64480 → dbeaver: 6.1.0 -> 6.1.2 → https://git.io/fjiQ3
<yorick> clever: okay, one sec
<Miyu-chan> clever: Yeah, duplicity to gpg to pinentry.
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<Miyu-chan> Y'know what. I'm too lazy. I'll just make this 3GB
<Miyu-chan> I mean, who even has a <4GB flash drive nowadays.
<clever> Miyu-chan: if you link a PR, i could also take a look over it
<clacke_movim> This is a pretty active channel, but the commit logs also make it look even busier than it really is.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64481 → radiotray-ng: 0.2.5 -> 0.2.6 → https://git.io/fjiQl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64482 → xterm: 346 -> 347 → https://git.io/fjiQ8
<Miyu-chan> Forgot that this is a thing.
<Miyu-chan> nixpkgs.config.packageOverrides = { pkgs, ... }: with pkgs; {pinentry = pinentry_ncurses;};
<Miyu-chan> I should maybe disable mesa while I'm at it too.
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<Miyu-chan> Just a thought. What if we deprecate `rec {}`?
<Miyu-chan> `rec {}` is, uh, unmaintainable.
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<clever> Miyu-chan: id be in favor, `lib.fix (self: with self; { ... })` is basically identical
<Miyu-chan> clever: Exactly!
<clever> Miyu-chan: and opens up the option of making it more maintainable
<Miyu-chan> clever: Did you see my comamnd for using a new Elixir and Erlang version?
<clever> yorick: looks like it depends on glibc and llvm at runtime, `nix why-depends /nix/store/x4b7fc747s95nwynbkjdnshsrw85vxwg-unit-graphiteWeb.service /nix/store/y7nq2bjlfvmf9dhf8gfbr32qbrg3zyb4-llvm-7.0.1-lib`
<clever> yorick: i'm guessing llvm is for gpu reasons, but does this even need opengl?
<Miyu-chan> nix-shell -p '(with import <nixpkgs> { overlays = [ (self: super: { beam = self.lib.recursiveUpdate super.beam { interpreters.erlang = self.beam.interpreters.erlangR21; interpreters.elixir = self.beam.packages.erlang.elixir; packages.erlang = super.beam.packages.erlangR21.extend (self: super: { elixir = super.elixir_1_8; }); }; } )]; }; [ elixir beamPackages.hex ] )'
<clever> Miyu-chan: nope, neat
<clever> and long, lol
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<Miyu-chan> Yeah, and there are a lot of repeats, exactly because of rec instead of `self ...`
<clever> Miyu-chan: that may explain why i had so much trouble getting hex to override
<yorick> clever: grathiwe-web -> whisper -> cairo -> libgl -> mesa -> mesa-noglu-drivers -> llvm
<qyliss^work> I hate rec
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<clever> yorick: what is whisper?
<yorick> clever: database library
<yorick> maybe I'm reading this wrong
<clever> yorick: why does a database library depends on cairo (a gui library)!? lol
<yorick> I'll paste it
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<clever> yorick: ah, line 5 is python2.7-graphite-web, line 6 is saying which file inside graphite web, and a sub-section of that file, that depends on cairo
<clever> yorick: i think this is the exact same cairo issue Miyu-chan just had
<yorick> so it may be fixed in master
<Miyu-chan> And yes! It's the same reason!
<Miyu-chan> Duplicity relies on pygboject3.
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<Miyu-chan> duplicity = duplicity.overrideAttrs ({propagatedBuildInputs, ...}: { propagatedBuildInputs = lib.filter (x: x != pkgs.python2Packages.pygobject3) propagatedBuildInputs; });
<Miyu-chan> Brings the closure size down by 200 MB.
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<clever> Miyu-chan: what about `duplicity.override { pygobject3 = null; }` ?
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<Miyu-chan> { stdenv, fetchurl, python2Packages, librsync, ncftp, gnupg, rsync, makeWrapper }:
<Miyu-chan> Uses `with python2Packages; [ ... ]`
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<clever> Miyu-chan: ack
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<clever> thats why i prefer newScope&friends
<clever> so you can do { stdenv, pygobject3 }: ...
<Miyu-chan> Yeah. :/
<Miyu-chan> Seems like there's no way to fit
<Miyu-chan> [ <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/profiles/all-hardware.nix> <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/profiles/base.nix> <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/cd-dvd/channel.nix>
<Miyu-chan> into 2 GB
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<Miyu-chan> Unless squashfs.
<clever> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 286M Dec 31 1969 /boot/rescue-initrd
<clever> say hello to my little squashfs, lol
<Miyu-chan> :o
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @turboMaCk opened pull request #64486 → elm.elmPackages: Update elm-analyse and node2nix → https://git.io/fjiQ9
<clever> that contains an entire nixos env, with opencl drivers, but no xserver
<Miyu-chan> Wait, why OpenCL drivers?
<clever> the opencl stuff in nixos-unstable doesnt even build, and i had to go back to 18.03 to get it to build right
<clever> and i didnt want to downgrade my whole system that far
<clever> so i shoved it into an isolated boot env
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<clever> this generates a dedicated grub option, that boots into an installer like env
<Miyu-chan> It at least fits on 2500 MB.
<Taneb> clever: what's up with opencl?
<clever> Miyu-chan: this variant, will then reduce the closure size, change the nixpkgs rev, and add opencl
<jgt> I'm trying to override a haskell package with a custom version, and I am ending up with two versions of that package (and a bunch of others) when I do ghc-pkg list
<clever> Taneb: was trying to test some opencl stuff, but couldnt get it to work
<jgt> how do I make sure I only get one version of each package?
<Miyu-chan> I should make this a squashfs sooooon, but not today.
<clever> Miyu-chan: use my rescue-boot.nix as an example, the gist is a variant with reduced closure size
<jgt> I have a pkgconfig.nix like this: http://ix.io/1NHy#
<Taneb> clever: what error were you getting? One of my coworker was trying to use it yesterday, to not much success
<Miyu-chan> I'll take a look at it. Thanks.
<clever> Taneb: failing to find libamdoclsc64.so
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<clever> Taneb: it tries to load that library, but it is not included in any package
<clever> jgt: you want to use hpNew.callPackage
<yorick> clever: thanks! :)
<Taneb> clever: ah, seems like a different issue, then
<clever> jgt: and avoid rec whenever possible, it causes problems in overlays
<clever> Taneb: and under nixos-unstable, the amdgpu-pro drivers dont even compile, because linux changed multiple function definitions
<jgt> clever: thanks for the help! I'm trying hpNew now. Also, which approach should I take instead of rec?
<jgt> I just go by examples I find online
<clever> Taneb: there is also the problem that the opencl client i'm using appears to be using opencl 2, but amdappsdk only supports 1.2
<clever> jgt: nothing in that code even needs rec, so it should continue to work after removing it
<jgt> oh right!
<jgt> thanks!
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<jgt> clever: that's worked perfectly. Thanks again.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64487 → lesspipe: 1.82 -> 1.83 → https://git.io/fji7m
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64488 → klavaro: 3.08 -> 3.09, patch format-string, espeak support → https://git.io/fji7O
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64489 → vale: 1.4.3 -> 1.5.0 → https://git.io/fji7w
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64490 → oxipng: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.2 → https://git.io/fji7K
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64491 → powerstat: 0.02.18 -> 0.02.19 → https://git.io/fji7X
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64492 → evdi: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 → https://git.io/fji7Q
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64493 → chromium: 75.0.3770.90 -> 75.0.3770.100 (bump beta/dev too) → https://git.io/fji7N
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64494 → i2pd: 2.26.0 -> 2.27.0 → https://git.io/fji5e
<yorick> python2-env -> graphite -> glib -> python3 :(
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64495 → okteta: 0.26.1 -> 0.26.2 → https://git.io/fji5J
<Miyu-chan> :P
<yorick> Miyu-chan: how do you find out which dependency propagates it there?
<clever> yorick: nix why-depends --all
<yorick> thanks!
<yorick> so cairo, again
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<clever> without --all, it only shows the first occurance, so you may fix that, and it turns into whack-a-mole
<clever> with -all, you can see all of them, and hit more targets at once
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64496 → libtorrent-rasterbar: 1.1.11 -> 1.2.1 → https://git.io/fji5C
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64498 → xscreensaver: 5.40 -> 5.43 → https://git.io/fji5r
<Miyu-chan> clever: Also.
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<Miyu-chan> [myrl@myrl:/etc/nixos/nixpkgs/nixos]$ printf '%s\n' /nix/store/*duplicity*/bin/.*-wrapped-wrapped-wrapped | wc -l
<Miyu-chan> 11
<Miyu-chan> lol
<clever> heh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 7 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/fji51
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fji5H
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @OPNA2608 opened pull request #64499 → [WIP] palemoon: 27.9.4 -> 28.6.0.1, slight refactor → https://git.io/fji5F
<immae> hello there, I have a module in which I want to provide a PATH=/run/wrappers/bin, do I have a lib function to give that /run/wrappers/bin without hardcoding it?
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<clever> immae: nixos/modules/security/wrappers/default.nix: default = "/run/wrappers/bin";
<clever> 144 security.wrapperDir = lib.mkOption {
<clever> immae: there appears to be a config.security.wrapperDir option, that controls where all of the setuid wrappers go
<clever> immae: it is flagged as internal, so the docs hide it, and the description says not to change it, but i guess reading it will perfectly solve your question
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat opened pull request #64500 → mesa: fixup darwin build → https://git.io/fjidv
<immae> ah cool thanks :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64501 → skaffold: 0.30.0 -> 0.33.0 → https://git.io/fjidU
<immae> Works perfectly thanks clever++ :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64503 → gtk: 3.24.8 -> 3.24.9 -> 3.24.10 → https://git.io/fjidG
<teto> the behavior of nix-collect-garbage on a full disk is weird. it seems to work, but ends with "error: committing transaction: database or disk is full (in '/nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite')". It seems after several attempts, it freed enough things to update the db
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<clever> teto: it helps to use --max-freed
<clever> teto: the problem, is that it will move things to /nix/store/trash, while updating sqlite, which can fail due to lack of space
<clever> teto: and it wont regain space until the very end, when it deletes /nix/store/trash
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<clever> but --max-freed 100m, will make that "very end" come much sooner, and then you can increase it slowly until you have enough space for a real full-gc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64504 → libdrm: 2.4.98 -> 2.4.99 → https://git.io/fjidW
<Miyu-chan> I actually got DNS issues. Jesus. `networking.nameservers` is a godsend.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64505 → jsoncpp: 1.8.4 -> 1.9.0 → https://git.io/fjid8
<teto> clever: I could imagine this going into the error message xD
<teto> I mean this advice
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64506 → trilium: (0.32.4,0.33.5) -> 0.33.6 → https://git.io/fjid4
<clever> teto: of note, nix already has a /nix/var/nix/db/reserved file, 8mb in size, and it will delete that before starting a GC, to prevent issues
<clever> teto: but i dont know how that interacts with copy-on-write filesystems, and 8mb isnt much
<teto> clever: wow very cool
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64507 → electrum: 3.3.6 -> 3.3.7 → https://git.io/fjidB
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64508 → yubikey-personalization: 1.19.3 -> 1.20.0 → https://git.io/fjid0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64509 → olm: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.3, gitlab → https://git.io/fjidg
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<exarkun> btrfs and zfs both (potentially) need some free space to delete a file
<exarkun> zfs has a separate reserve feature you can configure, not sure about btrfs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64510 → kakoune: 2019.01.20 -> 2019.07.01 → https://git.io/fjido
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64511 → goxel: 0.9.0 -> -> 0.10.0 → https://git.io/fjidi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64513 → freetype: 2.10.0 -> 2.10.1 → https://git.io/fjiFe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64514 → txr: 217 -> 219 → https://git.io/fjiFU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64515 → libinput: 1.13.2 -> 1.13.4 → https://git.io/fjiFT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #64498 → xscreensaver: 5.40 -> 5.43 → https://git.io/fji5r
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjiFs
<aswanson> anyone have good experiences using nix withing MS WSL, specifically the ubuntu flavor? I'm attempting to install nix and running into permissions errors when the install script starts moving stuff into the nix store
<KarelWDingeldey[> Hi there, does someone have an example configuration for IPSec with swanctl and PSK at hand?
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<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: oh no
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MrMebelMan opened pull request #64518 → django: Init at 2.0.2 → https://git.io/fjiFV
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: hm, easiest is not doing PSK :P
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<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: but I think you have to services.strongswan-swanctl.swanctl.secrets.ike
<KarelWDingeldey[> Really? I thought that's the easiest way to go since I just have to exchange a plain text string.
<KarelWDingeldey[> I tried that, but somehow I'm stuck. An example would help a lot.
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/4464d4e57cd (from 82 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: do you *need* ipsec?
<yorick> or will any vpn do
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<KarelWDingeldey[> yorick: IPSec is preferred, yes. OpenVPN is an alternative, but I find the configuration more complex.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xrelkd opened pull request #64519 → packr: 2.5.1 -> 2.5.2 → https://git.io/fjiFS
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: if there's any humanly possible way, use wireguard
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed commit from @matthewbauer to staging-next « mesa: fix darwin and use meson auto features (PR #63912) »: https://git.io/fjiF9
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: the configuration is easy and it works all the time, unlike strongswan
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat closed pull request #63912 → Mesa Darwin support → https://git.io/fjoX9
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: the people who made the nixos strongswan module are using wireguard now
<KarelWDingeldey[> yorick: OpnSense doesn't support it yet. If I fail with StrongSwan, I will just wait for WireGuard to appear on the stage.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MrMebelMan opened pull request #64520 → django-maintenance-mode: init at 0.13.1 → https://git.io/fjiF5
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/how-tos/wireguard-client.html looks like it does
<KarelWDingeldey[> yorick: Alright, that's a clear sign! 🙏 Thanks a lot.
<KarelWDingeldey[> yorick: But look at the warning: "WireGuard Plugin is still in development, use at your own risk!"
<yorick> KarelWDingeldey[: yeah, it's new, but I think the risk is acceptable if you have to deal with strongswan otherwise :P
<KarelWDingeldey[> I would need to change to the development version of OpnSense in order to get the plugin installed.
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<KarelWDingeldey[> Haha, alright then. I will be patient and wait for the official release.
<KarelWDingeldey[> yorick: Thanks again.
<danderson> yeah the disclaimer is basically saying "I don't promise compatibility or security yet"
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<danderson> but the wireguard protocol has a formal proof of security, and I trust it way more than other VPN tech
<danderson> so really the remaining risk is bugs in the implementation, but the implementation is small and easy to audit by design :)
<yorick> danderson: this is the disclaimer on opnsense
<yorick> danderson: which says "WireGuard Plugin is still in development, use at your own risk!"
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<danderson> yup. They're just repeating the warning from wireguard.com
<danderson> but also, every other VPN system is also "still in development" :)
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<danderson> wireguard's main developer wants more formal security audits before declaring it stable
<danderson> (and also kernel upstreaming, which is going slowly)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MrMebelMan opened pull request #64523 → django-simple-captcha: init at 0.5.6 → https://git.io/fjibw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64109 → drawio: init at 10.8.0 → https://git.io/fjKVI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjibM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63942 → clojure: 1.10.0.442 -> 1.10.1.462 → https://git.io/fjopY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjibD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to master « python38: init at 3.8.0b2 »: https://git.io/fjib7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #64519 → packr: 2.5.1 -> 2.5.2 → https://git.io/fjiFS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjibA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MrMebelMan opened pull request #64525 → rq: init at 1.0 → https://git.io/fjibx
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<Miyu-chan> Hm.
<tobiasBora> Hello,
<Miyu-chan> Is there a way to install both grub and efi-boot?
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<Miyu-chan> TL;DR. Use GRUB when EFI is unavailable.
<tobiasBora> I'd like to package picos for nixos (a python library), but I'm not sure to know what is the best way to package it. python2nix from proger seems super easy to use, but pypi2nix from nix-community seems more recent
<FRidh> you're probably better of writing the expression yourself
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #64512 → netdata: 1.15.0 -> 1.16.0 → https://git.io/fjidH
<clever> Miyu-chan: you can configure grub to do both efi and legacy at the same time
<clever> Miyu-chan: if you set boot.loader.device = "/dev/sda"; then it will do a legacy install into the (protective) MBR, and require a bios boot partition (1mb, not formated, not mounted) if on gpt
<clever> oops, insert a grub. into that option
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MrMebelMan opened pull request #64527 → dj-static: init at 0.0.6 → https://git.io/fjiNG
<clever> Miyu-chan: if you set boot.loader.grub.efiSupport = true; and /boot is fat32, then it will also do an efi install at the same time
<clever> but efi can fail if the efi vars arent mounted, so
<clever> boot.loader.grub.efiInstallAsRemovable = true; will work around that
<clever> combine that all together, and you need:
<clever> boot.loader.grub = { efiInstallAsRemovable = true; efiSupport = true; device = "/dev/sda"; };
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<tobiasBora> FRidh: why? what's wrong with this kind of programs? Aren't they used later to automatically upgrade libraries?
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<clever> plus a fat32 ESP mounted to /boot and a bios boot partition
<Miyu-chan> Oh cool.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xrelkd opened pull request #64528 → filezilla: 3.42.1 -> 3.43.0, libfilezilla: 0.16.0 -> 0.17.1 → https://git.io/fjiNZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #64450 → systems/doubles.nix: add Apple doubles → https://git.io/fjiro
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<ajs124> Assuming I would want to put /nix and /tmp on a different filesystem from the rest of my / and assuming I also wouldn't want to use a filesystem for /nix and /tmp which supports subvolumes, could I mount it somewhere and bind mount two folders to /nix and /tmp or would that break everything?
<clever> ajs124: linux doesnt understand atomic moves between bindmounts of the same fs, so it will force `mv` to copy things, causing minor performance costs
<clever> ajs124: but it shouldnt break anything
<ajs124> clever: copy_file_range does, though.
<ajs124> ok. I was worried because of the mount namespace magic the nix daemon does.
<clever> what syscall is it using?
<ajs124> the nix daemon? no idea
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<clever> ajs124: copy_file_range
<nefix> Hello! I'm trying to build DRBD 9. The thing is that I'm not sure how to build the kernel module
<ajs124> clever: that is the syscall
<gchristensen> drbd, now that is name I've not heard in a long time
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<nefix> It's really useful! I'm trying to convince my organization to use NixOS in order to make reproducible builds of the servers and easily grow with more servers without having to configure the whole thing again
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<tobiasBora> Hum, everytime I believe I understand nix I still run into troubles ^^
<sauyon> sounds like nix to me
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<tobiasBora> I have the following error "called without required argument 'buildPythonPackage'" when I try to build the following default.nix file https://paste.debian.net/1090934/
<tobiasBora> (inspired by existing files)
<tobiasBora> the command I'm using to build is nix-build -E "with import <nixpkgs> {}; callPackage ./default.nix {}"
<tdeo> python3Packages.callPackage will probably work
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<tdeo> unrelated, but you can use lib.fakeSha256 for a hash you don't know yet, because an empty string will cause an error
<tdeo> > lib.fakeSha256
<{^_^}> "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000"
<tobiasBora> tdeo: indeed it seems to fix the issue. But why in all-packages.nix there is no "python3Package." prefix, for example in picoc = callPackage ../development/interpreters/picoc {};?
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<tobiasBora> tdeo: great tips, thanks!
<tdeo> in python-packages.nix there is a `callPackage = pkgs.newScope self;`
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<tobiasBora> tdeo: hum, I'm not sure to follow, how is python-package.nix called?
<nefix> Anyone has an idea of how can I build DRBD 9
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<tdeo> most (all? dunno) python packages are not in all-packages.nix, and rather in python-packages.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #64507 → electrum: 3.3.6 -> 3.3.7 → https://git.io/fjidB
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<tdeo> there, you can just use `callPackage` and it will work
<ajs124> nefix: I got some ideas, give me a minute
<nefix> Thanks, ajs124!
<tobiasBora> tdeo: ok, makes sense. Thanks!
<aveltras> has anyone successfully configured a weechat relay on nixos with ssl ?
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<ajs124> nefix: this compiles, but doesn't install properly: https://gist.github.com/ajs124/857c482f8cce5fd264b171efc07c05af
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<nefix> ajs124: Thanks!!! But how can I specify which linux version does it use? I'm using latest linux, but it compiles using linux 4.19
<ajs124> good question. other packages use kernel instead of linux, but that didn't compile for me, if I just use callPackage. It probably works if you call it though linuxPackages somehow, idk.
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<nefix> ajs124: I haven't fully understood you :s
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<__monty__> Should I be doing a single-user install of nix if I want to use nix-darwin and home-manager?
<nefix> ajs124: Also, how can the kernel module be included in my kernel?
<ajs124> nefix: I'm on it, I haven't packaged a kernel module before, but I think I got it.
<tdeo> nefix: you likely need to add this to an overlay in your nixos configuration file, and replace the uses of `linux` with `kernel`
<aswanson> aveltras: I'm using one on a vps that I can successfully connect to, I think the only nix-specific thing I did was enable `services.weechat.enable`, after that I just tweaked the knobs from within weechat per weechat's documentation
<nefix> tdeo: And if I want to add this to the nixpkgs? How would the user install DRBD?
<aveltras> aswanson: im having trouble generating the certificate as described here in fact https://github.com/ubergeek42/weechat-android/wiki/Using-SSL-with-WeeChat
<aveltras> aswanson: so i guess weechat should work ok after that's done :)
<tdeo> if it were in nixpkgs, you could simply `boot.kernelModules = with config.kernelPackages; [ drbd ]` i believe
<aswanson> did you manage to create the certificate file?
<nefix> tdeo: But DRBD is also a service, how is that affected?
<ajs124> nefix: the tools are a separate package. plus you'd probably need to write a module
<tdeo> hmm, i'm not sure then
<nefix> ajs124: The module is already written (I think)
<manveru> ,locate libicucore
<aveltras> aswanson: i thought so but there was an error, because of the path to openssl cnf, im looking into it right now
<{^_^}> Couldn't find in any packages
<nefix> But yeah, the tools also need to be compiled
<Miyu-chan> Oh cool.
<Miyu-chan> Someone finally added fake hashes to lib.
<Miyu-chan> TIL.
<ajs124> with this, you can build it like any kernel module
<nefix> <3
<ajs124> hm. I'm not sure if it actually works, though. the result symlink is empty.
<aswanson> aveltras: that instruction looks a bit verbose compared to weechat's own docs: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#relay_ssl; as long as you have openssl installed and usable there shouldn't be much other nix specific stuff in your way
<tobiasBora> hum, in python-packages.nix, there is no alphabetic order in packages name ? ^^ I can put picos more or less anywhere ?
<aveltras> aswanson: i managed to set the cert properly this time (just had to replace the openssl.cnf with the full path to the nix store) but connection seems to timeout
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<aveltras> aswanson: the config is pretty barebone, do you see something lacking here ?
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<aswanson> aveltras: I mean, mine is even more barebones, just the one service enabling line, but I only use the relay for myself. After weechat was enabled I had to tweak some weechat settings
<ajs124> nefix: looks like nixpkgs actually already has drbd 8.4
<nefix> Yeah, but this version is really outdated. Not just within the version 8, but the version 9 changes a lot of stuff
<aswanson> aveltras: I set relay.network.ssl_cert_key="%h/ssl/relay.pem", the relay password, and relay.port.ssl.irc wiithin weechat
<nefix> ajs124: ^
<aveltras> aswanson: i guess i missed sth :)
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<Xyliton> Hello! I just installed a new GPU and now I only get output on a single screen. What are the steps I should take to get nixos to correctly set both screens up when starting?
<tdeo> do you have the driver for the new gpu in `services.xserver.videoDrivers`?
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<Xyliton> Yes, both the new and old one used the nvidia driver
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<Xyliton> I can make both screens work until the next restart using nvidia-settings
<najibpuchong> Hi, I am trying to install firefox with flash plugin by adding .config/nixpkgs/config.nix : 'firefox = {enableAdobeFlash = true;};' and set nix-channel to 'https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstabled'.
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<najibpuchong> Running nix-env -iA nixpkgs.firefox give error while downloading ' https://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/32.0.0.207/flash_player_npapi_linux.x86_64.tar.gz'
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<risson> When making an option, what can I set as a default path and then find out if it has been changed when building the configuration?
<risson> I tried null, no luck
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<infinisil> risson: Null can work, you just need to check whether the value is null or not when evaluating to find out whether it's been set
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #64522 → pax-utils: 1.2.2 -> 1.2.4 → https://git.io/fjibu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjixd
<risson> infinisil: When I try to build it says the option value is not of type path
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<risson> Ah shit I have to use nullOr path I guess
<aveltras> aswanson: turns out the problem was google compute engine not authorizing connections on port 9001 without adding a specific rule in their firewall
<aswanson> aveltras: glad you figured it out!
<aveltras> aswanson: do you have the weechat configuration done imperatively then or do you put it all in a nix file ?
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<infinisil> risson: Ah yup, glad you figured it out
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<eacameron> If I try to open the "Displays" window, it opens for a split second and immediately crashes.
<eacameron> Goes away...
<eacameron> I'm on 19.03
<eacameron> I'm on a laptop and for some reason it suddenly decided that my second screen would be at some bizarrely low resolution. It used to look fine until...today. But I can't open the options to change it!
<eacameron> I just updating my channel to see if that helps. No go.
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<eacameron> Well using `xrandr` manually works anyway
<eacameron> But it's super frustrating that the display manager window doesn't work
<zacts> manveru: hey, I saw your comment about rake. I will test a new build in just a bit. I'm just waking up for my day. I don't see you on #rubinius though, but I saw you on Gitter.
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<risson> infinisil: thanks a lot :D
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<aswanson> aveltras: imperatively. based on options available in `man configuration.nix` there don't seem to be options built in nixpkgs for declarative config for weechat
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<eraserhd> aha! I have a derivation which is using an RSA private key, which gets copied into the store, which makes it world readable, which prevents SSH from reading it. Is there an easy way to work around this?
<Miyu-chan> You could always copy it to pwd.
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<eraserhd> That could work. It might be easier in this case to just not copy it into the store. OTOH, there seems to be a bit of discussion of this, and maybe I can figure out the right way?
<clever> eraserhd: "ssh -i ${toString ./id_rsa}"
<clever> this is one of the few cases where using toString on a path is the answer, that will give the absolute path to the file, without copying
<clever> and assumes the file will remain at that path in the future
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @megheaiulian opened pull request #64532 → [lxd] add criu to path → https://git.io/fjihr
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<eraserhd> clever: isn't that exactly the same as ${./id_rsa}, which is the thing that copies the path into the store?
<clever> eraserhd: nope
<clever> ${./id_rsa} will copy it to the store, and translate into /nix/store/hash-id_rsa
<eraserhd> huh, ok
<clever> but ${toString ./id_rsa} wont copy, and turns into /home/clever/something/id_rsa
<clever> that mistake is what often breaks things, when new users try to toString all the things
<clever> and if the sandbox isnt on, it still works, so they dont notice
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjihX
* eraserhd wonders *how* ${} copies to the store.
<eraserhd> clever++
<{^_^}> clever's karma got increased to 151
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<clever> that is the source behind builtins.toString
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<clever> eraserhd: the magic, is the 2 bools at the end
<clever> string s = state.coerceToString(pos, *args[0], context, true, false);
<clever> virtual string coerceToString(const Pos & pos, PathSet & context, bool copyMore, bool copyToStore) const;
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<clever> "${foo}" will call coerceToString with different values from builtins.toString
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<clever> > "${42}"
<{^_^}> cannot coerce an integer to a string, at (string):255:2
<clever> and unlike javascript, ints cant be coerced
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @megheaiulian opened pull request #64534 → [lxc] fix bash completions → https://git.io/fjihS
<Miyu-chan> (Nix flakes)
<Miyu-chan> Also, who has the gist of module system in Nix?
<Miyu-chan> This one, I think?
<eraserhd> clever: ty!
<Miyu-chan> I guess in a way, moving forward, it'd be nice to have module system first-class in Nix.
<Miyu-chan> But at the same time, I really like how simple Nix is, and how you can implement a module system from the start.
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<yorick> Miyu-chan: flakes got implemented in a nix branch somewhere
<Miyu-chan> OTOH, the second md seems to be pushing for `rec` configurations?
<Miyu-chan> "but in fact it's already widely in use, see e.g. perl-packages.nix or python-packages.nix where most dependencies are obtained from the surrounding rec set. include"
<Miyu-chan> yorick: Yes, under tweag.
<__monty__> Hmm, the manual says "prefix/bin and ~/.nix-profile/bin" should be in PATH but aren't those the same directory for a single-user install?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #64514 → txr: 217 -> 219 → https://git.io/fjiFU
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<wucke13> How can I leave the systemd-emergency mode without rebooting, regardless of the failure which caused it
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<yorick> wucke13: systemctl isolate multi-user.target
<wucke13> yorick: That brings me right back into the emergency mode
<wucke13> I want to start leave the emergency mode dispite the error which caused it still being there
<clever> wucke13: what is the error?
<wucke13> clever: To be clear, I'm not asking on how to resolve the error, but on how to dismiss it, but to answer your question: A mount couldn't be done as a filesystem became unavailable
<clever> wucke13: ah, i would just fudge /etc/fstab to make systemd not care about it
<clever> you can replace the fstab symlink with a normal file, that has the same contents, then edit that file
<clever> nixos will turn it back into a symlink next time it boots (or you rebuild switch)
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<wucke13> thanks for the hint with the symlink. Thats handy, though doesn't answer my question. For now, that'll do fine, but I'm curious wether there is really no way to dismiss on systemd deps failing causing an emergency
<wucke13> Like, there for sure should be a way to override the emergency mode comming up.
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<yorick> echo -e '[unit]\nOnFailure=' /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.d/nofail.conf
<yorick> (with a >)
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<wucke13> Hmmh, that seems like a fix
<wucke13> Still not convenient :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #64517 → pahole: 1.12 -> 1.15 → https://git.io/fjiFq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @dtzWill to master « pahole: 1.12 -> 1.15 »: https://git.io/fjPee
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<cx405> hello guys! Anyone knows how to install java into steam-run? I have GOG game that uses java and it complains about its absence. The wiki entry also means its unsupported, but I know its possible, just dont know how. :(
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<cransom> Izorkin: copy all the settings that you want into your config and don't use the hardened file?
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<Izorkin> There is no other variant?
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<cransom> i don't imagine there's a `generally-firm-but-slightly-softer-than-hardened.nix`, no.
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<ris> turgid.nix
<ris> wow this has been sitting around for a while #60888
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/60888 (by risicle, 9 weeks ago, open): pythonPackages.pygal: fix build by forcing pytest_3 - staging rebase
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<ris> also #63226
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63226 (by risicle, 3 weeks ago, open): pythonPackages.django_appconf, pythonPackages.django_compressor: fix build
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<Thra11> Is adding "nixpkgs-overlays=/etc/nixos/overlays/" to NIX_PATH (by appending to nix.nixPath in configuration.nix) enough to use an overlay in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix?
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<clever> Thra11: nixos-rebuild only obeys the overlays in nixpkgs.overlays
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<nefix> How can I create a loop device through the NixOS configuration?
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<nefix> clever: Thank you!
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<__monty__> Does anyone recommend setting buildCores to anything other than 1?
<yorick> __monty__: oh yes, I have it at 0 and it causes relatively few problems and speeds up some big builds massively
<yorick> __monty__: builds where it causes problems have enabelParallelBuilding=false in nixpkgs
<__monty__> Alright, here's to living on the edge : )
<cx405> hello guys! Anyone knows how to install java into steam-run? I have GOG game that uses java and it complains about its absence. The wiki entry also means its unsupported, but I know its possible, just dont know how. :(
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ambrop72 opened pull request #64540 → strip setup hook: Strip using --strip-unneeded instead of --strip-debug. → https://git.io/fjPeD
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<exarkun> is there a thing people do for packages that need X in their test suite? xvfb? it seems to me expected that a thing being `nix-build`ed wouldn't be able to use any X server I might happen to have running
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<clever> exarkun: this spins up an entire qemu vm, with X, and records the screen with ffmpeg
<exarkun> fancy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple opened pull request #64541 → mirrors.nix: add alsa-project.org for alsa → https://git.io/fjPeN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee closed pull request #64524 → eclipses: 2018-12 -> 2019-06 → https://git.io/fjibQ
<scott> my nixos-unstable upgrade right now is manually compiling a ton of KDE stuff - is there a way i could figure out why it's not able to find it in binary cache?
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<ajs124> scott: you can look on hydra.nixos.org, if it failed to compile there or if it is still compiling
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<scott> i'm not so sure where to look
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64542 → deluge: 1.1.11 -> 2.0.3 → https://git.io/fjPvN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #64503 → gtk: 3.24.8 -> 3.24.9 -> 3.24.10 → https://git.io/fjidG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #64505 → jsoncpp: 1.8.4 -> 1.9.0 → https://git.io/fjid8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjPfG
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<eacameron> I'm trying to write a module that will let me define the postgresql initial script in multiple places and have them all get merged (why this isn't the default now beats me...), however, when I try to specify this option in multiple places I get the error `The option `services.pgAggregatedInitScript' in `<unknown-file>' is already declared in `<unknown-file>'.` ^
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<Thra11> clever: Ok. Thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjPf4
<cransom> eacameron: i can't say 100%, but i think the type for pgAggregated needs to be a list of lines in order to be merged. i don't think it concatenates strings.
<eacameron> types.lines says it's merge rule is to combine them with \n
<Thra11> I have network.wireless.enable = true; and I've set a network. How can I debug why it isn't working? There's no mention of wpa or wlan in the journal. The wpa_supplicant service status is inactive.
<selfsymmetric-pa> Hi Thra11: I personally also set `networking.networkmanager.enable = true` and then `nmcli` sorted out all my usecases.
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<gchristensen> is anyone familiar with using .mobileconfig files on NixOS for a Cisco VPN?
<Thra11> selfsymmetric-pa: Yes. I saw that was an option in the manual.
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<eacameron> Does merging only work when the module is actually imported from a file or something?
<eacameron> I'm not importing it from a file, I'm just defining it in a `let` and then using it in `imports`
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<eacameron> oh wow... that was it... :/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit merged pull request #64484 → lazydocker: 0.5 -> 0.5.5 → https://git.io/fjiQV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit pushed commit from @dtzWill to master « lazydocker: 0.5 -> 0.5.5 (#64484) »: https://git.io/fjPfR
<eacameron> this is a bit disturbing. options merging only works when the module is imported from a file...
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<MmeQuignon> Hi ! I currently have all my zsh configuration in /etc/nixos… (https://0bin.net/paste/Vn0qS7wWXEAE+Bgw#ANh-QXS0gDMRGiOF895+kxMUyfsvnn73C3oeTnHSH/Z). Is there a way to put that in ~/.config/nixpkgs instead ?
<lordcirth> MmeQuignon, perhaps home-manager is what you want?
<MmeQuignon> I do not know that, is that a tool ?
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<Thra11> The manual says that setting `networking.wireless.enable = true;` will start wpa_supplicant, but I can see absolutely no sign of it even having tried to start it.
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<nefix> clever: When I try creating the loop device, it breaks the whole system :(
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<exarkun> having a lot of trouble getting any pyqt5-using stuff working. eg, pytest-qt test suite aborts: https://gist.github.com/exarkun/c1c54434efcb8f735bd8ec887a2b6931
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<exarkun> one thing I notice is that nixpkgs has qt5 5.12.0 and pyqt5 5.11.3
<exarkun> I'm not clear on whether this matters or not
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #63947 → mautrix-telegram: 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/fjop5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/fjPf1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #64544 → victor-mono: init at 1.2.1 → https://git.io/fjPfM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rvolosatovs opened pull request #64545 → nodePackages.dockerfile-language-server-nodejs: init at 0.0.21 → https://git.io/fjPfd
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<alexarice[m]> exarkun: I think there are still qtbase 5.12 problems
<alexarice[m]> not sure if that is the cause
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<exarkun> hm hm yea maybe so
<exarkun> I just ran qutebrowser, a pyqt5-using app, and it complains at startup "16:58:22 WARNING: Combining PyQt 5.11.3 with Qt 5.12.0 is unsupported! Ensure all versions are newer than 5.12 to avoid potential issues.", though it doesn't crash like this other app
<Thra11> selfsymmetric-pa: Seems neworkmanager isn't an option on this platform (armv6l-linux), as it depends on some rust code :(
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rw opened pull request #64546 → [darwin] Fix fetchzip call by using https not http → https://git.io/fjPJ4
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<fresheyeball> how can I have /usr/share/dict/words ?
<fresheyeball> is there a way to get that setup?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #63920 → zsh-you-should-use: init at 1.1.0 → https://git.io/fjoDw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjPJB
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #63709 → i3-layout-manager: init at unstable-2019-06-19 → https://git.io/fjwSx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjPJz
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<nefix> Is is possible to overlay a module?
<fresheyeball> nefix: I would do that with an `imports` instead
<nefix> fresheyeball: Could you explain that a litle bit more?
<nefix> Or provide an example
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<fresheyeball> nefix: so `imports` in a configuration.nix allows for the composing of modules
<fresheyeball> nefix: I would make a nix file that is the overriden module
<fresheyeball> and add it to the imports list
<fresheyeball> it will override the old one
<fresheyeball> let me back up
<petercommand> how can i use the linux 5.2 on nixpkgs?
<fresheyeball> why do you want to do this?
<fresheyeball> petercommand: how do you want to use it? in your configuration.nix?
<petercommand> fresheyeball: yes
<petercommand> fresheyeball: I tried sth like unstable.linuxPackages_5_2, but that doesn't work
<samueldr> the build farm might not have had time yet to work on it
<petercommand> > boot.kernelPackages = unstable.linuxPackages_5_2;
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting ')', at (string):255:21
<fresheyeball> petercommand: boot.kernelPackages = myLinux
<samueldr> and then update the channels
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<petercommand> fresheyeball: myLinux?
<fresheyeball> petercommand: however you want to reference it
<samueldr> there is an eval for nixos-unstable that should have it currently building, so once it's built 5.2 will be available once the nixos-unstable channel updates
<petercommand> fresheyeball: um, yeah, that's what I did
<fresheyeball> samueldr: why does that matter?
<fresheyeball> petercommand: what error did you get?
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<samueldr> if they want to use the one from the channel, like it looks like they are trying
<petercommand> error: attribute 'linuxPackages_5_2' missing
<fresheyeball> petercommand: then you didn't reference it :)
<fresheyeball> ok
<samueldr> fresheyeball: what are you even saying? (sorry if this is harsh)
<fresheyeball> so you just need to have an actual reference to 5.2
<fresheyeball> your code doesn't actual reference it, the attribute is not there
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<fresheyeball> unstable.linuxPackages_5_2 is not a valid reference
<fresheyeball> so you are setting it right
<fresheyeball> you are just setting it to NULL essentially
<fresheyeball> make sense?
<petercommand> fresheyeball: what should I do then?
<fresheyeball> so there a ton of ways you can get this variable into scope
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<fresheyeball> I recommend using fetchGit to fetch whatever ref of the nixpkgs repo you want
<petercommand> I thought the unstable channel is linked to the master branch?
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<samueldr> petercommand: not exactly
<fresheyeball> petercommand: no
<samueldr> petercommand: it's a tested snapshot of master
<fresheyeball> its the unstable channel
<petercommand> Ah..ok
<samueldr> so it has to go through hydra first :)
<fresheyeball> plus if you want things to be super stable
<fresheyeball> you should lock it down to the hash
<petercommand> yeah
<petercommand> fresheyeball, samueldr: thanks
<fresheyeball> petercommand: https://pastebin.com/EjDhGjdf
<fresheyeball> something like that should do it for you
<petercommand> thanks
<petercommand> going to try it now
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<fresheyeball> petercommand: also, if you want to play with master
<fresheyeball> I recommend this
<fresheyeball> export NIX_PATH=$NIX_PATH:nix-master=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/master.tar.gz
<samueldr> (it's possible that it will need to build locally first, and since you're importing it from a revision that might not have been tested, results may vary [though unlikely to break spectacularly])
<fresheyeball> then you can do like this
<fresheyeball> nix-env -f "<nix-master>" -i thang
<petercommand> well, I only need the linux kernel :D
<fresheyeball> petercommand: :)
<fresheyeball> how can I have /usr/share/dict/words ?
<samueldr> ,locate dict/words
<{^_^}> Found in packages: netbsd.dict
<samueldr> ,locate
<{^_^}> Use ,locate <filename> to find packages containing such a file. Powered by nix-index (local installation recommended) https://github.com/bennofs/nix-index
<fresheyeball> funky
<fresheyeball> let me try that and see if my editor stops bleeding all over the floor
<fresheyeball> I was using nix search to no avail
<fresheyeball> samueldr: my system is not finding it
<samueldr> it won't give /usr/share/dict/words, but it will be available at that equivalent store path
<samueldr> nix-shell -p netbsd.dict --run 'ls -l $buildInputs/share/dict/words' -> /nix/store/rjvamjf1bnjczm6jrrxnyq0699g6pv37-netbsd-dict-8.0/share/dict/words
<samueldr> not sure what your editor will do, but it's likely it won't know to look at a particular store path
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lilyball opened pull request #64547 → cocoapods: 1.7.3 -> 1.7.4 → https://git.io/fjPJb
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<fresheyeball> samueldr: ok that looks like it worked
<fresheyeball> is there a way I can do it with nix code and not ad hoc?
<samueldr> depends on many factors, like which editor you're using
<samueldr> and how it is configured
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<fresheyeball> samueldr: I would be happy just to have the symlink in my env
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<samueldr> if you are building its configuration with something that ends up passing through nix, you could embed its store path in the configuration
<fresheyeball> samueldr: splain
<samueldr> > "some_option = ${pkgs.netbsd.dict}/share/dict/words}"
<{^_^}> "some_option = /nix/store/mja29mc6r1aid4pj1pz49j62y1n41mch-dict-netbsd-8.0/share/dict/words}"
<samueldr> whoops
<samueldr> > "some_option = ${pkgs.netbsd.dict}/share/dict/words"
<{^_^}> "some_option = /nix/store/mja29mc6r1aid4pj1pz49j62y1n41mch-dict-netbsd-8.0/share/dict/words"
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<samueldr> so if you're using a global configuration file for your editor through your nixos system, that would be a way
<samueldr> similar for home-manager I guess
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed to master « nixos/foundationdb: s/pidFile/pidfile/ »: https://git.io/fjPJj
<fresheyeball> samueldr: so I know I can reference it with nix code
<samueldr> otherwise, for symlinks, not sure about all the options, ~/.nix-profile might do it of you nix-env -i stuff
<fresheyeball> but how can I have nix just set the symlink for me (more things want this than editor)
<samueldr> system-wide, /run/current-system/ can be used with environment.pathsToLink https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#pathstolink
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<fresheyeball> samueldr++
<{^_^}> samueldr's karma got increased to 97
<fresheyeball> samueldr: oh damn! this is awesome. I had no idea envvironment had so many options!
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<nefix> How can I specify a module type within an enumeration? For example, I want to choose between "A", "B" or "C" only. Can this be archieved?
<infinisil> nefix: types.enum ["A" "B" "C"]
<nefix> <3
<dtz> Nix is so dang magical sometimes.... :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 4 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjPU0
<nefix> I'm trying to override a module. I've written it, but when I import it to my configuration through the `imports`, it says that is already defined. How can I really override it?
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<infinisil> nefix: That's very unspecific. If you have an error, post the error
<nefix> infinisil: error: The option `services.drbd.enable' in `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixos/modules/services/network-filesystems/drbd.nix' is already declared in `/home/nefix/dev/isard-cube/modules/drbd.nix'.
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<infinisil> nefix: Add `disabledModules = [ "services/network-filesystems/drbd.nix" ]`
<infinisil> Next to the imports
<nefix> Thanks!
<nefix> infinisil: and how can I add a custom package to `pkgs`?
<infinisil> That would be using overlays
<infinisil> ,overlays
<{^_^}> infinisil: Did you mean overlay?
<{^_^}> Overlays look like `self: super: { foo = ...; }`. Use the self argument to get dependencies, super for overriding things and library functions (including callPackage). More info: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-overlays-install
<nefix> But it doesn't exist
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<nefix> Oh, nvm
<infinisil> Again, you need to be specific with your problem reports. Nobody can help you otherwise
<nefix> Sorry about that. It does work now
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c opened pull request #64548 → etcd: 3.3.1 -> 3.3.13 → https://git.io/fjPUK
<infinisil> Alright
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c pushed to etcd-3.3.13 « etcd: 3.3.1 -> 3.3.13 »: https://git.io/fjPU6
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<cx405> ok... actually steam-run already includes java, if you add "programs.java.enable=true". However, it turns out message about missing java is because of error in openjdk itself, = java aint missing. if path contains non-latin, it fails, so game script thinks its missing...
<exarkun> Anyone have any ideas on this pyqt5 misbehavior (pytest-qt just as an example, other things I try also fail): https://gist.github.com/exarkun/c1c54434efcb8f735bd8ec887a2b6931 - an earlier suggestion was that qtbase 5.12 has ... problems
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<monokrome> Does anyone know what I need to do to get `super.buildRustPackage` in scope for my overlays?
<monokrome> I expected it to just be there, and whenever I try to introduce an import statement in an overlay file it fails
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy opened pull request #64549 → claws: init at v0.3.2 → https://git.io/fjPUH
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<bgamari> How does one patch a GEM package source?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c pushed to etcd-3.3.13 « nixos/tests: include the etcd-cluster test in all-tests.nix »: https://git.io/fjPU7
<bgamari> gem builds don't seem to extract the source to the working directory
<colemickens> Is the whole "I go offline everytime I rebuild switch" thing a thing I should report?
<colemickens> Someone made it sound like it was known/fixed recently, but it's been like a week.
<alexarice[m]> colemickens: I've been getting that for ages, was under the impression people were just ok with it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash closed pull request #59054 → packr: init at 2.1.0 → https://git.io/fjLMd
<colemickens> :| yeah, I don't think that's supposed to happen.
<colemickens> do you have systemd-resolved manually disabled via nixos option by chance?
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<monokrome> hmm... Does anyone know if TLP allows me to execute a script if I detach monitors? or if there is something meant for that
<monokrome> I manually xrandr but it's kind of meh
<thefloweringash> The offline thing should be fixed by #61949
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/61949 (by talyz, 6 weeks ago, merged): networkmanager: Add rc-manager option
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<alexarice[m]> colemickens: I don't know how to check that but my issue is resolveconf related
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