<clever>
danbst: you need to add flex and bison to the buildInputs
<danbst>
clever: probably I should mention that source is a fork of Nix 2.1.3
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<danbst>
clever: why isn't overrideAttrs preserving those? I have now another error, like `cc1plus: fatal error: config.h: No such file or directory`. I guess I miss something
<clever>
danbst: its not a problem of it (not) preversing them, its a matter of the dependencies have changed
<clever>
danbst: so the pkgs.nix your overriding simply never had flex and bison
<danbst>
clever: ok, I figure out the problem. Those flex, bison and autoreconfHook are added only when `fromGit` arg is set. However, I wrongly assumed that `overrideAttrs` can set `fromGit`. It is not a builder arg, it is callPackage arg. overrideAttrs can't override that
<danbst>
clever: so real fix was to use `super.nixUnstable.overrideAttrs ...`
<iqubic>
I would have expected to it to show up there.
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<buckley310>
literally just added the two config lines as shown here, and then added the printer in the GNOME settings https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Printing
<buckley310>
the page would seem to indicate that i am not using any "proprietary plugins", which means it might be a community/opensource driver
<buckley310>
because im not using pkgs.hplipWithPlugin
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<iqubic>
But you have verified that it works with hplip and no additional set-up.
<iqubic>
And also that it is the hp envy 5055?
<buckley310>
yep, "HP ENVY 5055", and I just added this config and did a rebuild { services.printing.enable = true; services.printing.drivers = [ pkgs.hplip ]; }
<{^_^}>
#61581 (by nh2, 9 weeks ago, merged): postgresql: Make systemd support configurable
<buckley310>
im surprised it was that easy too xD
<buckley310>
also the printer is on wireless, not plugged into USB
<iqubic>
Also, can I just use the CUPS local server by pointing firefox at this: http://localhost:631/
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<buckley310>
my firefox just automatically saw it, your mialege may vary i guess
<buckley310>
im using GNOME on nixos-unstable
<iqubic>
I'm using i3, so...
<iqubic>
I guess I'll have to make my own path.
<buckley310>
this is true
<buckley310>
gnome seems to have written to /etc/cups/printers.conf. i have no idea if thats the only config needed, but if you have issues we can compare
<iqubic>
I don't think it would take any more work to set it up.
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<iqubic>
What exactly was written to /etc/cups/printers.conf?
<iqubic>
Because the wiki page on printing doesn't mention that file at all.
<buckley310>
ill dump it in a DM
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<iqubic>
After looking at the things in the PM, that just looks like the default setting for your printer.
<iqubic>
I'm going to assume that the add printer functionality of localhost:631 will take care of writing that for me.
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<iqubic>
I'll keep that around just in case though.
<buckley310>
good luck :)
<iqubic>
Thank you.
<iqubic>
And not to beat a dead horse, but are you positive that it is the HP Envy 5055?
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<iqubic>
I got a printer yesterday that I was fairly certain would work, and it didn't. I don't want to get screwed over a second time when I make the exchange.
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<buckley310>
iqubic: HP ENVY 5055. product number: M2U85A
<Ralith>
but is it a hp envy?
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<iqubic>
Yes it.
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<buckley310>
iqubic: worth noting, i dont know how complicated printing gets, but i printed the nixos "printing" page in black and white, and it came out fine
<buckley310>
just did a color print to make sure, that worked just fine too. just a google search results page
<buckley310>
i dont wanna garuntee itl work because printers are miserable things, but anecdotally it works well :)
<iqubic>
Cool.
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<fresheyeball>
clever: so I got memtest going
<fresheyeball>
and it ran for 3 hours
<fresheyeball>
and found no errors
<clever>
fresheyeball: mcelog is next then
<fresheyeball>
clever: is there anything stateful about nix I can clear?
<charukiewicz>
Why is it that some packages install using just `nix-env --install pkg-name` and others require `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.category.pkg-name` ?
<charukiewicz>
e.g. You can get away with --install cabal2nix, but for other haskell packages, neither the package name, nor haskellPackages.package-name works
<gchristensen>
,-iA
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<gchristensen>
hrm.
<gchristensen>
charukiewicz: in short, -i is never preferrable to -iA. -i requires enumerating every package. -iA means giving a precise location in nixpkgs, so much less work needs doin
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<charukiewicz>
ah, makes sense
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @kalbasit opened pull request #65288 → pythonPackages.joblib: fix the build on Darwin → https://git.io/fjDUO
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<fresheye1>
clever: advice on viewing the output of mcelog?
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<clever>
fresheye1: did you try `journalctl -f -u mcelog` ?
<cinimod>
error: anonymous function at /Users/dom/cmaes/whatever.nix:1:1 called without required argument 'mkDerivation', at /nix/store/3pk6mk3y3yszcyyd07hfmwwrrjj9qy3w-nixos-19.03.tar.gz/lib/customisation.nix:69:12
<aria>
etu: any chance you're keen to take up the task :D? the default.nix looks too complex for me rn
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<etu>
aria: It's not tagged at all from upstream, I have no idea how finished it is... So yeah, unclear. I'm waiting for features that will land in 27 so I hope it gets released this year or so :D
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<rauno>
anyone else has any ideas how to workaround this: systemd-udevd[591]: Error changing net interface name 'eth1' to 'eno1': File exists ?
<aria>
etu: it would probably be emacs-HEAD. it has some pretty desirable features already, like a native json parser (literally 50x faster than emacs 26) so anyone using LSP will have a much much faster json impl
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<etu>
aria: Yeah, and I want to be able to "dump emacs" which kinda dumps emacs with all config to a single binary to improve startup-time etc
<etu>
aria: And in theory it's already possible since a long time. But it will be easier in 27 and onwards
<aria>
etu: that sort of already exists with bytecompiling
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<etu>
aria: not exactly, because it still have to look up all the pats in environment variables and check that the byte-compiled version is up to date with the source version. If "dumped" it's all in memory and mushed together :)
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<etu>
s/pats/paths/
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<aria>
i'll definitely be checking that out when it lands. I take it from your reply you probably wont be taking a shot at emacs then :(
<etu>
aria: And since I configure emacs with nix, having dumping built in as an option in nix would make is amazing :)
<aria>
emacs 27*
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<etu>
aria: I wish to, but not sure I have the time. Busy life :)
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<aria>
understandable mate, thanks anyways
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<pmiddend>
I build a docker image using nix. Can I show it's closure with sizes somehow?
<aria>
i think you said you wanted to do some more reviews
<worldofpeace>
aria: I just hit 100 today for july 🎆
<aria>
woo!
<aria>
gonna keep going?
<tilpner>
worldofpeace++
<{^_^}>
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<aria>
wow what an inferior karma bot 😉
<sphalerite>
pmiddend: ah, maybe `nix path-info -sr $(nix-build --no-out-link docker.nix -A contents)` will do the trick
<worldofpeace>
lol
<aria>
speaking of, `nix path-info -S` just errors out on all of my systems, so i can't check closure size like the PR wants me to :( https://i.imgur.com/QMK9N5e.png
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<sphalerite>
aria: you need to pass it a specific attr, e.g. nix path-info -S -f . barrier
<worldofpeace>
didn't mention on github because it kinda dry for a review :)
<aria>
oh, i really should read the whole bloody thing shouldn't i >_>
<sphalerite>
aria: specifically, bytes in the nar dump, which is stored in the nix store database and bypasses having to query the filesystem for everything's size
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<aria>
worldofpeace: how's that? i think it complies now...
<aria>
my brain is totally not working today
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<lucus16>
How can I specify the default channel nix-env and nix-shell -p use from my configuration.nix?
<worldofpeace>
aria: good, it's ready for my review 👍️
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<tilpner>
lucus16: You can't easily. The best sphalerite-compatible solution is probably defining a systemd service that deletes ~/.nix-defexpr and sets it to use NIX_PATH
<lucus16>
thanks
<pmiddend>
sphalerite: I'll try your command asap, thanks :)
<tilpner>
lucus16: Then you want to set NIX_PATH. You can do that from nix.nixPath, but keep in mind it will require you to login again for changes to take effect
<sphalerite>
lucus16: nix-shell -p will always use nixpkgs from NIX_PATH anyway, nix-env is… annoying. I set an alias nix-env='nix-env -f "<nixpkgs>"'
<sphalerite>
tilpner: sphalerite-compatible?
<aria>
^ was wondering about that too tilpner :P
<tilpner>
sphalerite: Doesn't unnecessarily use activation scripts
<rauno>
3rd time is for charm: systemd-udevd[591]: Error changing net interface name 'eth1' to 'eno1': File exists ? :)
<rauno>
Anyone has ideas how to workaround it ?
<rauno>
Would like to avoid full system upgrade, maybe only systemd upgrade ?
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<cinimod`>
I am trying to use nix-shell -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs-channels/archive/nixos-19.03.tar.gz -p "haskellPackages.ghcWithPackages (pkgs: [pkgs.my-cmaes])" where I have an overlay in a file for my-cmaes
<sphalerite>
rauno: you already have an eno1 interface I'm guessing?
<cinimod`>
How do I make the overlay visible?
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<sphalerite>
cinimod`: either place it in ~/.config/nixpkgs/overlays.nix or pass --arg overlays '[./overlay.nix]', I think
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<pmiddend>
For improving stuff on the manual, is opening an issue okay?
<rauno>
sphalerite, well its nixos job not to try name both interfaces to eno1 :D
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjDIN
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<Zer0xp>
I have 3 channels now and I added 2 accidentally
<asheshambasta>
How does on view the logs of some process on nixos? For example, I've got mariadb up and running on my system but my connectios to it are timing out. I'd like to see the logs and see what's going on.
<Zer0xp>
Nevermind, I got it on the man page
<worldofpeace>
pbb: I'm pretty sure there's already an open PR to fix qutebrowser
<pmiddend>
My python application (build with buildPythonApplication) contains .py files in its closure. Anyone know how I can just bundle the .pyc files?
<rauno>
andi-, indeed, any idea if there's some workaround ?
<pmiddend>
Oh nevermind, that's not normal.
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<alexarice[m]>
has the way to disable suspend on lid changed, I have `logind.extraConfig = "HandleLidSwitch=ignore";` in `configuration.nix` but it doesn't seem to work
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<magnetophon>
I'm upgrading to the latest unstable, and it's building libre-office. I guess that means the build won't finish, right? otherwise I would've gotten a binary. Or am I missing something?
<Zer0xp>
Hey does anyone know how I can update my KDE Plasma in NixOS ?
<Zer0xp>
There are a lot of issues that begun ever since I switched to NixOS unstable channel
<Zer0xp>
I've switched back to the stable channel and so far my Plasma is still glitchy
<Zer0xp>
Like hitting Alt+Tab to switch between applications will simply crash KWin.
<Zer0xp>
And it is annoying but I don't want to switch to Gnome or any other desktop environment
<Zer0xp>
Is anyone here facing the same issue or know a way to rectify these problems ?
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<jasongrossman>
Zer0xp: You might have to ask at a few different times of day to catch someone who uses it.
<etu>
aria: Looks like a good start! I don't have time to look much at it now due to work:)
<aria>
no worries
<pmiddend>
magnetophon: Generally true I'd say.
<Zer0xp>
Oh
<magnetophon>
Zer0xp: I'm not using plasma, but Alt+Tab seems like a very basic function that every plasma-user needs. If it'd be broken there'd be an issue on github for it (did you check?) So I guess it's a configuration issue. Did you try removing your config or if that's not easy, making a new user and testing as that?
<magnetophon>
pmiddend: Thanks!
<Yaniel>
can confirm alt+tab crashing kwin, happens every time
<Zer0xp>
magnetophon: What do you mean by removing the config ? And no, I haven't tried a new user.
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<Zer0xp>
Yaniel: Any solutions to that ?
<Yaniel>
super key to open the launcher and focus follows mouse to switch to another window :D
<magnetophon>
Zer0xp: A lot of programs have the configuration in a file, that you can easily rename/move/delete in order to get the default config.
<magnetophon>
If plasma doesn't have that, a new user is easier
<Zer0xp>
magnetophon: I don't know if it does or not.
<Zer0xp>
Yaniel: I didn't follow.
<magnetophon>
Zer0xp: me neither, but I'm sure you can find out! :)
<Yaniel>
for the case of getting out of a fullscreen application
<Yaniel>
my current solution is to press super to open the launcher/start menu and then try to move my mouse over the window I want to switch to
<Zer0xp>
Yaniel: Oh okay
<Yaniel>
obviously not a real solution
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<Zer0xp>
Yes it isn't
<Zer0xp>
I've searched on KDE blogs for a solution and I found nothing
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<Yaniel>
there's a post on nvidia forums apparently
<Zer0xp>
Is this a GPU issue ?
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<magnetophon>
Seriously? A window manager that crashes doing one of the most basic WM functions? How long has it been doing that? I'd be on the lookout for something else pretty quick! Maybe try i3 as a wm with plasma for the goodies? You can combine the two, I've heard.
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<Zer0xp>
Yes you can combine them.
<Yaniel>
arch forums mention that it's not just alt+tab
<Yaniel>
but also desktop switching
<Yaniel>
there is also a report of it happening on radeon so not gpu-related I guess
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<Zer0xp>
I'm currently using desktop switching instead of dealing with crashing the Kwin from Alt + Tab, and it seems to work fine.
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<Zer0xp>
But this all started ever since I switched to the nixos-unstable channel so I'm wondering if that broke my Plasma with a feature update of some sort
<Yaniel>
do you have windows on both desktops
<Zer0xp>
Yes
<Zer0xp>
I've to separate them out at the start though so that they don't appear on each desktop
<Zer0xp>
But the moment I hit Alt+Tab by mistake, it starts to open windows from other desktops on my main desktop.
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<adamt>
Is anybody working on fixing python3Packages.cherrypy in 19.03? It has been fixed in master here, after the upgrade to python 3.7.4 broke it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65217
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<manveru>
Zer0xp: well, it's simply what people on NixOS use :)
<manveru>
arch is well known for having a lot of ricers, so there's more variety i guess
<carlosdagos>
Hello all! Anybody mind taking a look at my PR for a new package? Seems like the original people who helped me haven't had time to go back to it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63970
<angerman>
if I have an ifd, how do I get it to show me the .drv I'm importing from it? I'd like to get that --tree view on it to track down some misconfiguration
<infinisil>
angerman: You might be able to spot it with a number of -v's
<adisbladis>
aria: Do we really need to copy-paste the whole expression?
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<aria>
adisbladis: probably not, i initally started by editing default.nix, but figured i would just copy the file and revert default.nix to 26 to PR it
<aria>
i figured it would be easier to just copy it all now and de-dupe later
<adisbladis>
Hmm
<adisbladis>
I'd really like to have this in an auto-updating overlay :)
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<etu>
hmm
<etu>
One thought, how is the gtk2 support in emacs27, dropped yet?
<aria>
if im honest i haven't read the NEWS file yet
<inquisitiv3>
I'm having trouble with enabling wireless networking on my laptop. When I try to rebuild my config I get an error message https://paste.debian.net/1092743
<manveru>
how about referencing option docs from the docs :)
<bahamas>
hello. I'm trying to use the method to pin nixpkgs outlined here: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/Pinning_Nixpkgs. my nixpkgs.nix is https://bpaste.net/show/Iost. when I run nix-shell -vv, I get to the line that says "Fetching the repo" and then it just sits there. should it take long? am I doing something wrong?
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<infinisil>
manveru: Oh nice, I like that idea
<tilpner>
bahamas: Yes, prefer fetchFromGitHub for a quicker build
<tilpner>
bahamas: git is terrible at quickly fetching a single revision, so you may be downloading nixpkgs with all its history
<bahamas>
tilpner: I see
<aria>
tilpner: why is fetchFromGitHub faster than fetchurl?
<tilpner>
fetchFromGitHub uses fetchTarball and a GitHub-specific API to skip git entirely
<{^_^}>
Zer0xp: Please expand your question to include more information, this will help us help you :)
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<aria>
Zer0xp: i do
<tilpner>
jackdk: IIRC git just doesn't support that for any revision
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<jackdk>
tilpner: what a shame
<bahamas>
why am I getting an error on line 1 in this file https://bpaste.net/show/Tl3s? the error says: "attempt to call something which is not a function but a set"
<tilpner>
bahamas: What is the content of ./nixpkgs.nix?
<tilpner>
(Assuming you're not passing any value to your pasted function)
<clever>
Thra11: and this to simply switch to a given one
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<turion>
$ stack --no-docker init
<turion>
Cannot determine project root directory for Docker sandbox.
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<turion>
I don't understand stack anymore
<edef>
i think that might make you even with the people who write it
<clever>
turion: i just avoid stack like the plague :P
<turion>
clever: What's your Haskell setup then?
<clever>
turion: cabal files and cabal2nix
<turion>
Or, to everyone: How do you set up your Haskell projects in a way that anyone can clone and run them?
<clever>
turion: nix does everything stack would normally provide
<clever>
all must use nix!
<turion>
Without having to do "sudo mkdir /nix/store"
<turion>
clever: Does nix provide any notion of stackage lts?
<clever>
turion: nixpkgs contains a pinned export of stackage, but its not based on a specific lts
<jackdk>
as another ~cultist~ satisfied user, I make sure my packages provide shell.nix/default.nix that work. If i work on a package that doesn't have nix set up for it, the following usually works pretty well as a starting default.nix: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3SkpW3Ge/
<clever>
turion: i just build against whatever haskell versions are in my current nixpkgs, and pin that whole nixpkgs
<turion>
Hmm, fair enough
<clever>
turion: and if i ever need a special version, i can just add overrides to the nix
<turion>
Still, can anyone easily install nix & nixpkgs locally? I always used su so far.
<bahamas>
since you brought the subject, does anyone have a complete nix setup for yesod that works and doesn't use stack at all?
<clever>
turion: if your current user owns /nix, it can install without sudo present
<clever>
turion: so you can just make and chown an empty /nix dir, and then run the install.sh from the website
<turion>
clever: But how would an unprivileged user even create /nix?
<Zer0xp>
My bad. Does anyone know how to set up Polybar in Plasma ?
<turion>
bahamas: Ooohhh, what an evil thing to ask.
<clever>
turion: nix-user-chroot can do it with namespaces
<bahamas>
turion: why?
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<turion>
Ok, that's something new I haven't heard about yet...
<turion>
clever: From github: "Note that this is not available for unprivileged users in some Linux distributions such as Red Hat Linux, CentOS and Archlinux when using the stock kernel"
<turion>
bahamas: Because stack and Yesod developers overlap to a great amount? ;) I'm just joking. It's a great question, and I hope the answer is yes!
<Unode>
Hi all, does nixos have any userlevel systemd target that can be depended upon for user services that need to launch GUI apps (need access to X)?
<clever>
turion: debian removed the ability to use usernamespaces
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<adisbladis>
Unode: There are a few services like that
<adisbladis>
Take unclutter for one
<turion>
clever: So there is no good way to install nix locally in this case? What about macOS and Windows?
<Unode>
adisbladis: thanks I'll have a look
<clever>
turion: mac has no real chroot or namespace mechanisms, but once you own /nix its the same as linux
<clever>
turion: windows is a much bigger mess and doesnt have a really usable nix yet
<clever>
turion: but linux can cross-compile to windows
<gchristensen>
(only works a little bit)
<turion>
clever: Well, stack works without touching / or su rights, and on windows. As long as these features don't exist for nix, I won't switch, I'm afraid
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<turion>
Even though nix is of course the better solution in principle.
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @SimonSapin opened pull request #65303 → cbindgen: Disable tests rather than abusing RUSTC_BOOTSTRAP → https://git.io/fjDOx
<turion>
clever: Cross-compiling is not enough for me, I want Windows and macOS users be able to build/hack/use my library
<eraserhd>
If I have some scripts in my dotfiles repo, and I don't want to make a derivation for them, can I add a full path to `environment.profiles`, or is that terrible?
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @averelld opened pull request #65305 → wine: disable zbar in gst-plugins-bad → https://git.io/fjD3S
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[nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #65273 → linux/kernel: enable automatic cpu hotplug support → https://git.io/fjMNb
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[nixpkgs] @tfc opened pull request #65306 → nodePackages.gtop: init at 1.0.0 → https://git.io/fjD3j
<asymmetric>
clever: i looked at bashInteractive and i don't see mention of coreutils.. looking in the wrong place?
<clever>
asymmetric: coreutils is probably part of the stdenv too
<asymmetric>
clever: yeah it is, but i thought that would only be available at package build time. so does it mean that anything in stdenv doesn't need to be declared in a shell.nix?
<asymmetric>
e.g. gcc
<clever>
asymmetric: yeah, the stdenv supplies a lot of things by default
<asymmetric>
clever: and they're available to the nix-shell too, right?
<asymmetric>
at least that's what it seems
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<jumblemuddle>
Is there a better way of wrapping a function to set an attribute than this? (`args: (f (args // {attr = "value"}))`)
<psyanticy>
Ok then i ll add a separate one. For the module is it ok to add an option for ui (and set it to false on default) or that would be not that needed
<LnL>
a package option is more common
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<LnL>
I would add that instead and mention the ui in the description
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<infinisil>
jumblemuddle: callPackage allows you to do this with .override
<infinisil>
Assuming you have default arguments
<infinisil>
And it makes sense for your usecase..
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<infinisil>
Or rather, makeOverridable
<infinisil>
> fun = makeOverridable ({ a, b ? 10 }: a + b) { a = 0; }
<{^_^}>
error: undefined variable 'makeOverridable' at (string):98:8
<infinisil>
> fun = lib.makeOverridable ({ a, b ? 10 }: a + b) { a = 0; }
<{^_^}>
fun defined
<jumblemuddle>
Well, I'm not sure my usecase makes sense in the first place. There's a module/package which is only in the unstable channel; I'm trying to import only that from the unstable channel and use it: http://sprunge.us/ODDkTC.
<infinisil>
> fun
<{^_^}>
10
<infinisil>
> fun.override { a = 5; }
<{^_^}>
value is an integer while a set was expected, at (string):255:1
<infinisil>
Damnit
<infinisil>
> fun = lib.makeOverridable ({ a, b ? 10 }: { result = a + b; }) { a = 0; }
<{^_^}>
fun defined
<infinisil>
> fun.result
<{^_^}>
10
<infinisil>
> (fun.override { a = 5; }).result
<{^_^}>
15
<infinisil>
There
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<infinisil>
jumblemuddle: Hm yeah with modules this is a bit more tricky
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<infinisil>
jumblemuddle: Ah, you don't need to override any arguments
<infinisil>
jumblemuddle: You can just do `imports = [ <unstable/nixos/modules/services/misc/jellyfin.nix> ]`
<psyanticy>
@lnl there is already a package option so we are good. thank you :)
<jumblemuddle>
The module uses a package that doesn't exist though. I get an error if I don't override `pkgs`.
<infinisil>
jumblemuddle: Then you need to add an overlay that adds that package
<jumblemuddle>
Oh, how does that work? (Link to docs?)
<infinisil>
,overlay jumblemuddle
<{^_^}>
jumblemuddle: Overlays look like `self: super: { foo = ...; }`. Use the self argument to get dependencies, super for overriding things and library functions (including callPackage). More info: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-overlays-install
<jumblemuddle>
That would make the package available everywhere and not just inside the module, right?
<infinisil>
Well for your case you want to set `nixpkgs.overlays = [ (self: super: { jellyfin = ...; }) ];`
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<stites>
I can't seem to get an old version of numpy to be visible as an import to python36 from python.withPackages. Is numpy somehow a special package in nixos? I did notice that everything is fine if I include numpy as a top-level package (not via python36.withPackages)
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<dejanr>
hi, is anyone using https://api.github.com/users/:user/keys to fetch his pub keys, and set nixos authorizedKeys.keys with it? i am stuck with a part where i want to transform json array to nix list
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<adisbladis>
stites: Can you paste your expression?
<dejanr>
what i want is at every nixos-rebuild switch fetch github keys, and update user authorized keys
<adisbladis>
dejanr: You don't need to, you can use builtins.fromJSON or lib.importJSON
<adisbladis>
dejanr: This is obviously impure, but should do the trick: builtins.map (x: x.key) (lib.importJSON (builtins.fetchurl "https://api.github.com/users/adisbladis/keys"))
<dejanr>
ok thx, i could also then map over it, cool
<dejanr>
fetchurl also supports md5 if called with url and md5?
<{^_^}>
nix#802 (by copumpkin, 3 years ago, open): Is it time to deprecate md5?
<stites>
adisbladis: Here's a screenshare (I'm pinning nix so I'm not sure if it's important to pastebin it) https://i.imgur.com/RRgLyi0.png
<stites>
pastebin the code*
<stites>
oddly, both python versions are the same and neither have numpy in their lib/python3.6/site-packages
<stites>
oops -- by "both versions of python are the same" I mean, they both point to the same python binary in the /nix/store
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<Thra11>
When run with --max-freed, what order does nix-collect-garbage delete dead store paths in?
<clever>
Thra11: invalid paths first (those not in db.sqlite), then everything else in random order
<clever>
until it hits the quota
<Thra11>
clever: I don't suppose there's a way to influence the order? When I'm making experimental changes, I end up generating a lot of 'failed' intermediate stuff. When I run out of space, I'd rather delete that than delete e.g. a source archive which I will immediately re-fetch.
<Thra11>
(I know you can delete specific paths with nix-store, but I'd have to keep track of which paths to delete)
<clever>
Thra11: `nix-store --delete /nix/store/foo` to target a specific thing and nothing else
<clever>
Thra11: you can use wildcards to, for x in /nix/store/*name-1.3; do nix-store --delete $x; done
<clever>
Thra11: are the failed things valid store paths, or builds that fail to finish?
<DariusTheMede>
I'm not really loving nix-pills - is there something else I can read
<sphalerite>
DariusTheMede: the nix source code :p
<stites>
adisbladis: nevermind -- I think it has to do with the pinned version of numpy
<stites>
I can't reproduce this in unstable
<DariusTheMede>
sphalerite: the source code is C++?
<sphalerite>
DariusTheMede: yes
<DariusTheMede>
That means I would have to learn C++
<Thra11>
clever: valid store paths, such as /nix/store/...-nixpkgs and lots of /nix/store/*.drv
<clever>
Thra11: simplest thing then is the for loop in bash, and dont use --force
<Thra11>
clever: Technically the *simplest* thing is just to run nix-collect-garbage, then watch it fetch them all again :p
<Thra11>
Most of them are fetched from the remote build server anyway
<clever>
Thra11: if i go under 3gig free, it will run nix-collect-garbage --max-freed automatically, targeting 6gig free
<Thra11>
Although ironically, I don't think it really *needs* to copy the source archives onto this machine, given that max-jobs is 0. But it thinks it does
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<clever>
Thra11: nix needs the deps locally before going out to a build slave
<Thra11>
clever: what for exactly?
<Thra11>
I believe it's an artifact of the way the system is set up, rather than an actual necessity?
<clever>
Thra11: nix doesnt know what the remote machine has, or even which remote machine its going to use, until after it has fetched all of the inputs
<Thra11>
clever: but it's fetching most of the input from the remote machine
<clever>
Thra11: it may also be trying to build the fixed-output drv, on the slave
<clever>
and it doesnt know it will be copying it back up to that machine yet
<Thra11>
If the builder, acting as a binary cache, had the final output ready-built, it doesn't bother transferring the sources to the local machine.
<clever>
Thra11: if its configured as a cache (not just a build slave), yeah, it can skip ahead
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<Thra11>
clever: but it will still never say, "No, I don't have x. Hang on a sec while I build it", so you always end up getting the sources first, even though you don't need them, it does
<Thra11>
However, I believe the order is roughly 1. Check if binary caches have x. 2. Get the means to build x. 3. See if anyone can build x.
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<Thra11>
By the time we get to 3, we've already wasted our time, bandwidth and disk space
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<clever>
Thra11: basically, it will start at the thing you want to build, and check for it on caches
<clever>
if it cant find that, it will (recursively) check the deps of it
<clever>
and once that phase is done, it will tell you what its fetching from a cache, and what it wants to build
<clever>
then, in the reverse order (deps first), it will build them (possibly on a build slave)
<clever>
if your build slave is not a cache, it will fetch the deps for a thing the slave already built
<clever>
then (try to) copy those deps to the slave
<clever>
then copy the already built product back
<Thra11>
clever: I think that case is a little quirkly, but to be expected. I'm more interested in the case where the builder is a binary cache (/substituter)
<clever>
Thra11: you may also want to double-check that your not depending on something at runtime
<clever>
then it has to always download it, even after its built
<clever>
nix-store -qR
<Thra11>
clever: Yes I understand that. It's mainly large source archives I'm thinking about (although of course compilers are sometimes only needed at build time, sometimes also at runtime)
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<clever>
Thra11: can you paste some logs, like when nix says "will download X and build Y" ?
<Thra11>
clever: I'll probably open a Nix (/nixpkgs?) issue, so I can write a proper description
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<xantoz>
(On git nixpkgs) I have an issue with not being able to activate the filechooser in firefox: " Can't open portal file chooser: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface “org.freedesktop.portal.FileChooser” on object at path /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop"
<emacsomancer>
with Nix installed on a foreign distro, I'm having trouble getting an application installed via Nix to access either locally installed fonts or fonts installed via Nix
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<emacsomancer>
when I try installing fontconfig in Nix and run Nix's font-cache I can see that it's only accessing Nix's dejavu-fonts-minimal
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<xantoz>
so apparently firefox has switched to using portals for the filechooser... and I seem to be missing the dbus service for it
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<manveru>
emacsomancer: the fonts are specified in the xorg config, afaik
<manveru>
emacsomancer: usually that file is generated by nix on nixos, so that's how fonts are found
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<manveru>
on non-nixos you'll have to manually add the paths to the store or script it somehow
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<emacsomancer>
manveru: do you have examples of what this might look like?
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<manveru>
emacsomancer: sorry, i was wrong, it's fontconfig
<jabranham>
Hi all. I'm trying to get nix repl to list all available kernels following instructions here (https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Linux_kernel). However, the pkgs.linuxPackages step fails and complains about unfree packages. I don't want to list packages with unfree licenses, can I tell it somehow to just ignore those?
<manveru>
somehow had X11 in mind :)
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<emacsomancer>
manveru: oh! so it literally specifies fonts in fontconfig
<manveru>
jup
<emacsomancer>
not just, say, default serif fonts &c.
<emacsomancer>
that's what you meant by 'scripting it', I suppose, in the sense of some way of automatically modifying the file
<manveru>
you could also use home-manager i think, it has a fontconfig option
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<manveru>
well, paths like `~/.nix-profile/share/fonts` are made so you can install fonts via `nix-env` for example
<manveru>
you could have some path of your choosing that gets created by `nix-build` and simply has links to your fonts
<manveru>
there are a lot of options, you just have to pick one :)
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<emacsomancer>
ok, thanks! I'll have to play around to see what I can get working.
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<manveru>
check your existing config, there might be a path already for your $HOME
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @kalbasit opened pull request #65308 → buildBazelPackage: autodetect nix toolchain instead of Xcode on Darwin → https://git.io/fjDZW
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<emacsomancer>
manveru: fontconfig needs to be installed in Nix, I assume? There's already a share/fonts/truetype directory in my ~/.nix-profile , but Nix applications don't seem to be able to access these fonts
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<emacsomancer>
or should I be doing something with my base system's ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf file?
<emacsomancer>
or creating a Nix-specific fontconfig/fonts.conf file somewhere ?
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<alienpirate5>
how do I enter xorg's (specifically font-util) build environment through nix-shell?
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<sphalerite>
alienpirate5: `nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A xorg.xorgserver`
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<sphalerite>
if you mean a shell for building the X server
<alienpirate5>
you can do this?
<alienpirate5>
what
<sphalerite>
yes
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<alienpirate5>
than kyou!
<alienpirate5>
* thank you
<alienpirate5>
hmm
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @danbst opened pull request #65309 → postgresql: running `initdb` from command line now works → https://git.io/fjDnE
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<stites>
hmm... how do i escape curly braces in a nix string?
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<takeda_>
I'm wondering if there's a proper way to generate a customized nixos image. I basically have nixos configuration, I also was able to deploy it through nixops to vbox and ec2 (it is great for testing), but I would like to generate an AMI with that configuration so machine can get up and running faster and doesn't need a reboot on provisioning
<stites>
as in: write "${FILENAME:(-3)}" in a multi-line bash script
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<Henson>
does anybody know where the source for builtins.parseDrvName is? I'm trying to figure out exactly how it works.
<takeda_>
stites: I believe you can place '' (two apostrophes) in front of $
<takeda_>
edef: I tried, but I'm struggling a bit with it, there is a wiki page, but says it is outdated, I looked at the create-ami script in maintenance directory but has several steps
<edef>
takeda_: It boils down to uploading the image to an S3 bucket, then uploading it to S3 in VHD format, and then converting that into an EC2 disk snapshot
<edef>
takeda_: And then registering an EC2 image once that's done.
<edef>
takeda_: It does some extra trickery to do intra-region copying of images once it has made the first one, but there's not all that much to it overall.
<edef>
takeda_: You can ignore all the pv stuff, that's for older machine types.
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<takeda_>
edef: I'm assuming when generating an image I supposed to include amazon-image.nix module, but there's also one from the maintainers directory, should I use that instead?
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<takeda_>
also can I build it from os x (cross compiling perhaps?) or at least through a docker (it didn't seem to work on lnl7/nix image)
<edef>
takeda_: Personally I'd probably write a small Nix file that does the make-image.nix invocation from the maintainers one, used purely for generating images, and have it include a main configuration using eval-config.nix
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<edef>
takeda_: And that main config would include modules/virtualisation/amazon-image.nix
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<takeda_>
oh I didn't know about eval-config
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<takeda_>
edef: so to understand it right when using eval-config, I would list the maintainers config first, then reference mine in modules attribute, correct?
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<Miyu-chan>
From what I'm understanding, Flakes are basically "just" repo metadata?
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<alienpirate5>
hello all, I'm having trouble with cross compiling `fontadobe100dpi` to ARM. I'm getting an issue where the `fontutil` package is not getting detected by pkg-config. Here is something I ran to test the issue: https://hb.wrmsr.io/uwuxogahif.shell Here is the relevant log snippet: https://hb.wrmsr.io/iwasotacef.txt
<alienpirate5>
I would really appreciate if someone could help me troubleshoot this issue
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @aristidb pushed commit from @herberteuler to master « mathematica: 11.3.0 -> 12.0.0 (#65031) »: https://git.io/fjDCy
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<takeda_>
edef: apologies, but I'm still struggling, I am familiar somewhat with nixpkgs but nixos is still somewhat a black magic, so could you tell me how those pieces (eval-config, make-disk-image, amazon-image + my config supposed to be connected) and then how to invoke them in the end with nix-build?
<infinisil>
Miyu-chan: Oh boy, github just gave me a "This page is taking way too long to load." for https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/49 (worked on the second try though)
<{^_^}>
[nix] @kenahoo opened pull request #3005 → Mention that Nix isn't currently working in Docker → https://git.io/fjDWv
<dejanr>
hi, does anyone have a good setup of pass (password store), and gpg, so that gpg agent is connected with x11 session, goal is to not having gpg agent prompting me for password when i am logged inside x11
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<simpson>
I'm not at my community GitHub login, but nix/nix#3005 looks bogus (and kenahoo isn't on IRC). `FROM nixos/nix` should still work fine.
<immae>
dejanr: can you be more precise? I have a setting that I appreciate that works well with X11 and non-X11, but I’m not sure I understand what you want
<dejanr>
immae: currently when i use pass, i have to type gpg passphrase every so often, i would like to unlock and lock my gpg agent with the x11 session, so when i login via lightdm my gpg agent is also unlocked
<dejanr>
and i dont have to type gpg passphrase anymore
<worldofpeace>
sounds like something gnome-keyring would do in GNOME
<tilpner>
dejanr: Have you considered using default-cache-ttl and max-cache-ttl to reduce the number of times you need to enter it, without leaving it unlocked indefinitely?
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<immae>
dejanr: ah right I misunderstood your concern, I cannot help with that
<dejanr>
tilpner: yes that would be one thing to try, but doesnt solve it
<makefu>
inquisitiv3: most probably, yes. but you do not need to configure all wireless networks declaratively. instead you could have it handled statefully by the networkmanager service
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<inquisitiv3>
adisbladis: Thanks! That part answer my question. That part should probably be linked from the `Wireless` section.
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<nDuff>
Would it be accurate to say that it's categorically safe to call unsafeDiscardStringContext on the result of a hash function (where the disallowed reference is input to that hash)?
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<adamantium>
I'm trying to declare boot.loader.grub.mirroredBoots and i'm not sure how to format it proper. Playing around with the example, I have this so far, but it doesn't look correct to me: http://ix.io/1PhY/nix . Help?
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<worldofpeace>
,help
<{^_^}>
Use `,` to list all commands, `,foo = Foo!` to define foo as "Foo!", `,foo =` to undefine it, `,foo` to output "Foo!", `,foo somebody` to send "Foo!" to the nick somebody
<alienpirate5>
hello all, I'm having trouble with cross compiling fontadobe100dpi to ARM. I'm getting an issue where the fontutil package is not getting detected by pkg-config. Here is something I ran to test the issue: https://hb.wrmsr.io/uwuxogahif.shell Here is the relevant log snippet: https://hb.wrmsr.io/iwasotacef.txt
<alienpirate5>
I would really appreciate if someone could help me troubleshoot this issue
<aristid>
i only now noticed the new opencollective page
<gchristensen>
aristid: quite new! :)
<aristid>
gchristensen: you're a very generous donor! :)
<gchristensen>
nixos has done a lot for my life :)
<aristid>
gchristensen: hmm, for me it hasn't really changed my life but i just think it's the correct way to do things and i want to support that :D
<aristid>
gchristensen: do i understand it correctly that this will bring transparency on what the donations are spent on?
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<mitsuhiko>
heyho. is there a way to unpack a nix archive without having to have nix installed?
<mitsuhiko>
i'm trying to unpack .nar archives containing debug files
<gchristensen>
aristid: that is the goal, yes :)
<aristid>
gchristensen: because the lack of transparency was exactly why i had stopped contributing money to the foundation directly, so i'm really happy about this
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<nixnothing>
unsure if there is anything I need to enable in configuration.nix to allow ntfs partition mounting, ntfs3g is already installed as a system package with a nixos-rebuild switch
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[nixpkgs] @nicknovitski opened pull request #65319 → ngrok: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/fjD8H
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<alienpirate5>
>pkgs.hello.name
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