<clever>
mekeor: that will search every path that R depends on, and every file in those paths
<clever>
no results are found anywhere
<mekeor>
clever: i'd guess that it doesn't depend on any library in the sense of being linked to it. it just kind of loads the base R library which is part of the R package itself
<clever>
mekeor: what path is that base library at?
<clever>
mekeor: ok, this is even more puzzling, the error messages dont appear in any library or executable, only the translation files
<mekeor>
clever: it's an assignment. just like `=` in other languages.
<clever>
yet it appears in all translation files, so the english string is a key used for lookups
<clever>
so how is the lib even containing that string, to do the lookup!?
<mekeor>
strange
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is trying out the dirty hack workaround
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<clever>
mekeor: this is reminding me of reverse engineering malware that doesnt want to be debugged, lol
<GalzuFromQ>
Why does this chan come up when I do a search for "arch"... I don't see it in the description...
<clever>
GalzuFromQ: aarch64 is in the /topic
<GalzuFromQ>
Got it.
<GalzuFromQ>
" #nixos-aarch64"... I had to ctrl+f for it.
<GalzuFromQ>
I'm curious about this distro though, since Manjaro and Arch users are a bunch of tight asses.
<GalzuFromQ>
I say "that's gay" and "fuuuuck", and they banned me.
<GalzuFromQ>
After cursing me out.
<gchristensen>
GalzuFromQ: you will probably not find that sort of behavior very acceptable here, either
<GalzuFromQ>
Anyone know of a good frontend for 7zip?
<GalzuFromQ>
gchristensen, well I'll dial it back.
<clever>
GalzuFromQ: nixos is basically taking the "compile everything" ideas from things like gentoo and maybe arch, but making things better and solving a lot of issues that gentoo style OS's can have
<GalzuFromQ>
I have a disorder where I forget to filter my words sometimes.
<mekeor>
GalzuFromQ: "that's gay" is not nice to say; it could be interpreted as homophobic
<buckley310>
GalzuFromQ: file-roller can open .7z files
<gchristensen>
mekeor++
<{^_^}>
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<GalzuFromQ>
Well, I used Gentoo in the early 2000's, built it from bootstrap... I am a sysadmin of 18+ years. Worked for webhosting providers, software development companies, security companies and financial companies.
<GalzuFromQ>
Ok buckley310, file roller was renamed through?
<buckley310>
GalzuFromQ: the display name is "archive manager" but the binary is still named file-roller
<GalzuFromQ>
It's coming back as "archive manager", I used to use File Roller years ago.
<mekeor>
clever: your dirty-hack workaround works! :)
<GalzuFromQ>
Yeah my first distro was Slackware 7 I think.
<buckley310>
`gnome3.file-roller` is the package containing it
<GalzuFromQ>
Hmm...
<mekeor>
clever: thank you very much though!
<GalzuFromQ>
Anyone ever used Peazip?
<clever>
mekeor: i suspect this is a design issue with the R language, and will plague every single R package
<GalzuFromQ>
ty clever good description.
<GalzuFromQ>
mekeor, I understand and I'm not phobic, we just used to say it a lot when we were younger.
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<GalzuFromQ>
My sister, about five close friends and one of my best friends are homosexual.
<GalzuFromQ>
It looks like Manjaro ... jacked up a version of file roller.
<mekeor>
clever: would it make sense to use your dirty hack workaround in this case?
<gchristensen>
(for what it is worth, I've PM'd with GalzuFromQ to let them know we're serious that comments like "that's gay" and regular profanities aren't appropriate or appreciated here, and asked them to try hard to remain respectful of our diverse community.)
<mekeor>
cool :)
<mekeor>
gchristensen++
<{^_^}>
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<GalzuFromQ>
:)
<clever>
mekeor: yeah
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<GalzuFromQ>
I really prefer ports to any package management system.
<mabel>
hey, I'm getting a really weird issue compiling python
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<mabel>
it's yelling at me because it doesn't recognize the @ in "@lib" in unix64.S when compiling libffi for ctypes
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<mabel>
I'm doing this for a package I'm packaging, which compiles its own special python, so I'd like not to change their cmake if possible, but I have no idea what's going on
<mabel>
is it some kind of cross-compilation issue? gcc?
<mabel>
oh, apparently I need to specify --with-system-ffi
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[nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed to master « tests/pdns-recursor: use waitForOpenPort as port check »: https://git.io/fjLCB
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<buckley310>
anyone here good with gem bundling? I've been trying to push this upstream since I use it myself, but it keeps breaking and i don't have the know-how to debug it properly. it seems like a bug in bundlerEnv to me? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/54405
<buckley310>
basically i bumped the version, but every time the metasploit project releases a new version, the copy that gets pulled down has a different hash because it leaves ".git" folder in the output :\
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<jasongrossman>
buckley310: I think manveru knows about gem bundling, and he's on here fairly often.
<manveru>
i gotta get some sleep, but if you could try bundix without that flag for metasploit and make an issue in bundix before i get to it, i'd be greatful :)
<manveru>
we can at least provide a bundix flag to disable this if it helps
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<buckley310>
i dont think that flag is used anywhere in the build process, let me check on that...
<manveru>
(also needs to go into gemset and bundlerEnv has to handle it... now that i think of it
<buckley310>
yeah, generating the files is just `bundler install && bundix`
<manveru>
no need for bundle install
<manveru>
`nix-shell -p bundler --run 'bundle lock'` should suffice
<buckley310>
okay, ill see what that does
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<manveru>
you don't want all the deps in your nix-shell just to update a lockfile :)
<manveru>
anw, i checked bundlerEnv, and it doesn't seem to use leaveDotGit
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<manveru>
it actually makes a fake git repo during the build :P
<manveru>
so yeah, should work in theory
<manveru>
gn8
<buckley310>
giving it a try with the snippet from above
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<mabel>
how do I make a hardlink as a build step?
<buckley310>
i dont think you can, hardlinking is a root-only privilege, right?
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<buckley310>
i think you can only symlink or copy
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<Cale>
Really? Hardlinking is root only?
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<jackdk>
nope
<simpson>
mabel: What happens if you just do it? I'd go with a try-it-and-see strategy.
<buckley310>
correction, you cannot link to root-owned files as non-root
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<buckley310>
(and builds dont run as root)
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<tuelz>
does nix support options to start a system daemon when entering a projects sub-shell?
<tuelz>
for example, if my project needs mysql, is there a way to declare when opening a shell for that project it'll make sure mysqld.service is started?
<clever>
tuelz: not directly, but the shellHook string is evaled in bash when you open nix-shell
<clever>
your free to just run whatever you want there
<clever>
though some users may be upset if you do things like `sudo rm -rf /` :P
<clever>
glenndavy: lines 6-12 looks like the arguments to pkgs.fetchgit, so whatever this gets passed to, must be modified to use builtins.fetchGit instead
<glenndavy>
hmm, ok, i’ll raise an issue on the bunix repo
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<glenndavy>
at manveru any thoughts? ^^
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[nixpkgs] @zookatron opened pull request #58994 → sublime-merge: init at 1107 → https://git.io/fjLW5
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<OmnipotentEntity>
I am trying to set up latex on my box, I installed texlive.combined.scheme-full, but when I attempt to use latexmk to generate my document I get an error regarding the font Carlito-Regular. Where can I find this font?
<OmnipotentEntity>
excuse my idiocy the package name is simply "Carlito" I was searching for it as if it was part of TexLive, which is why I missed it completely
<eyJhb>
infinisil: I am comming for you! All code reviewers want different kinds of patches
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<hyper_ch2>
I'd like to have chocolated coated, crispy patches
<lielazivee>
In nix-channels I have [nixpkgs ~ nixpkgs-unstable] and [nixpkgs-18.09-darwin ~ nixpkgs-18.09-darwin]. When I use nix-build, I'm somewhat sure the unstable channel is used and I think it's breaking the build. Is there a way how I can make the 18.09 channel default?
<eyJhb>
hyper_ch2: you stay away from my PR! I cannot do that! :(
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<hyper_ch2>
what PR is it?
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lolmatrix
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<jomik>
I forgot where I could see the progress of release 19.03
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<mabel>
there are.... a lot of people from Matrix here. hi!
<mabel>
question: I have fetchurl as a build input, since it's a dependency that needs to be fetched..
<eyJhb>
Did ... Did matrix just get bridged right now?
<mabel>
I think so
<etu>
Nah, it's been before
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<eyJhb>
etu: but just a reconnect?
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<etu>
eyJhb: yeah
<etu>
Earlier there was a lot of people on matrix loosing the connection
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<eyJhb>
I never got the fuzz about Matrix...
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<lewo>
mabel: there is a builtin.fetchurl that comes with Nix.
<etu>
eyJhb: I like the ideas and such, and tried to use it for irc for a while. But the hosted bridge was too slow and crappy for my taste. It lost messages in both directions (due to load I think).
<mabel>
lewo: definitely. unfortunately, stdenv/setup takes it upon itself to source the downloaded artifact in question
<mabel>
which happens to be a .xz
<mabel>
what I'd really like is for the xz to be expanded
<mabel>
I know this happens automagically for 'src', but I need it to happen for these build inputs
<eyJhb>
etu: never tried it, but I just like my IRC client too much, and the clients they have.. Dear lord, do not force me to use that ****.. But, now that you mention the bridge being .... as well, then, no dice
<eyJhb>
Some guy at uni is trying to get me to use it as well, but I really do not care that much. I am mostly on Freenode anyways, and... That is public, unprotected, open, anyways
<mabel>
or, alternatively, for the xz to be ignored
<mabel>
sourcing it is never going to work
<eyJhb>
And my only private conversations are on my local bitlbee bridge... to facebook.. Sooohh :D
<mabel>
I'm a little overwhelmed by the sheer complexity of the package I decided to start with... but it's definitely a learning project
<rnhmjoj>
do you know why graphical.targets dependes on network-online.target? when i'm offline i can't login at all, until dhcpcd times out
<arianvp>
basically, if I want to depend on a binary from haskellPackages in my derivaiton, I don't want to write {stdenv, haskellPackages}: but {stdenv, name-of-binary}: for easy mocking
<linarcx>
Gyus. I've create a test profile via: `nixos-rebuild switch -p test `, and it added a submenu to grub. But i want to delete it. How can i do it?
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<arianvp>
linarcx:
<arianvp>
do a nix-garbage-collect and then nixos-rebuild boot
<arianvp>
it should remove the boot entries that are garbage collected
<arianvp>
maybe you need to manually delete the profile first though... not sure
<arianvp>
as profiles are explicit garbage collection roots
<linarcx>
arianvp: How to manually delete the profile?
<lielazivee>
Hey, I'm trying to create a derivation of NodeJS built from source and I'm running into an error while building - "./configure: /usr/bin/env: bad interpreter: No such file or directory". Any pointers as to what I could be doing wrong?
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @ctheune opened pull request #59000 → gettext: apply patch for CVE 2018-18751 → https://git.io/fjL45
<srhb>
lielazivee: You probably need to patch some shebangs (look up patchShebangs)
<eyJhb>
srhb: did your mail server work?
<linarcx>
arianvp: Thank you so much.
<srhb>
eyJhb: Yes, thanks :)
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<eyJhb>
srhb: and you're still alive, I am quite impressed :D ;)
<srhb>
Me too!
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<eyJhb>
srhb: if you are bored, I got loads of Go code you can document, now that you are finished with the mail server ;)
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<johanot>
If srhb is bored, she can help me with configuring znc :P
<eyJhb>
johanot: Why do I get the feeling it is short for "Johan Ottosen"? - ZNC is hell to setup to begin with, but after that, just don't touch it. I have a docker-compose file, with everything I need to have SSL, etc on mine :D
<kenshinCH>
Python question. I have a project that has two packages, one which needs `docker` and one which needs `docker-py`. The two packages are incompatible. My colleagues solve this simply by didinstalling one of the two via pip. How can I obtain something similar with a default.nix? What I have now is the (standard?) https://gist.github.com/mredaelli/84aefc0c69e4bceb6e73de76f2137d0c
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @manveru opened pull request #59003 → pidgin: fix gst plugin path for audio/video → https://git.io/fjLRe
<jluttine>
are there any stats about how much nix(os) is used and is it growing in popularity?
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<__monty__>
Nr. 89 or distrowatch.
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<__monty__>
That's the only real measure of distro popularity I know.
<cmacrae>
Hey guys o/ I use the unstable channel as my main channel on my laptop. How can I use a stable/different channel for a NixOps deployment? As in, for the target machine (virtualbox in this instance); I want that to use a stable channel
<jluttine>
Maybe nixos.org visit stats? Or NixOS installer image download stats? Those are difficult to compare to other distros but at least they might show if popularity is growing, decreasing or staying flat
<__monty__>
NixOS is still at the beginning of the hype cycle afaict. It's not ready for primetime yet imo.
<manveru>
jluttine: afaicr we don't really collect any stats... you could look at github stats for nixpkgs, or the number of users on discourse or irc, but don't think we have a history for that either
<OmnipotentEntity>
I've fixed the title of that PR btw.
<gchristensen>
which PR?
<OmnipotentEntity>
The one two lines above mine: -{^_^}/#nixos- [nixpkgs] @OmnipotentEntity opened pull request #59012 → Update Leela Zero to the recently released v0.17 → https://git.io/fjL0X
<Taneb>
If I'm changing a derivation in nixpkgs, and previously it uses a custom patchPhase to substitute some variables, but I want to in addition fetch and apply a patch, is it acceptable to make the old patchPhase a prePatch?
<gchristensen>
sure
<Taneb>
Great, I'll make the PR fixing upstream then I'll make the PR for nixpkgs
<gchristensen>
ryantrinkle: afaik, the remaining steps to a release are administrative -- and will be done soon :)
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<ryantrinkle>
gchristensen: cool :) i'll start some CI builds with it
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<ryantrinkle>
gchristensen: is there a good way to get notified when these releases are happening? a mailing list or something
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<OmnipotentEntity>
gchristensen, thanks for (and sorry for making you) manually start the borg bot, I just realized looking at other PRs that it happens automatically, I assume my broken title was the cause.
<gchristensen>
omnipotententity: no worries, it only happens automatically if you contribute several times and become a known user to the bot itself
<mojjo>
hi! How can I call a docker command (e.g. `docker info`) as a non-root user? works only as root if `virtualisation.docker.enable` is `true`
<gchristensen>
omnipotententity: your commit message being structured correctly ("package-name: ...") would have triggered the bot automatically if you were a "known" :)
<gchristensen>
ryantrinkle: signing up for the discourse would be a good spot, an announcement post will be made :)
<clever>
make-system-tarball.nix will create the tar for you, and include a symlink pointing to a storepath so you dont have to guess what needs to be ran
<wpcarro>
clever: thanks for sharing. I'm not running NixOS. Is that okay?
<clever>
yep
<wpcarro>
I was hoping for a command-line function to run that accepts my file.nix path and outputs the .tar
<wpcarro>
I'll dig into this more to understand it better
<genesis>
wpcarro : what are you waiting for ? a certain shade of green ?
<nakkle>
and I really don't know what to do there. Could someone help me figuring out what I'm doing wrong?
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<srhb>
nakkle: Probably you accidentally did something as root and now you're stuck with a lock file your user can't remove?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @bendlas pushed 4 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjLu6
<srhb>
nakkle: If your user is intended to own the store, you can just recursively chown it.
<nakkle>
thought that at first as well, but I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything as root, nix-binaries aren't even part of root`s path
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<srhb>
nakkle: Accidental sudo? :)
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<srhb>
nakkle: At least, I'm not aware of any bugs in this regard, though it's not impossible I just haven't heard of them -- I don't use single user mode myself.
<infinisil>
I'm going to figure out how I can get the sha256 for `fetchFromGitHub { url = "https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs"; ... }` just from a local checkout at the needed revision
<infinisil>
If anybody happens to have a ready snippet for that I wouldn't mind seeing that :)
<nakkle>
/nix/store is owned by the right user, and the lock file for which I get `Permission denied` does not exist.
<nakkle>
accidental sudo is highly unlikely:
<nakkle>
sudo: nix-env: command not found
<nakkle>
$ sudo nix-env
<tilpner>
infinisil: Does nix-prefetch-git not work?
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<infinisil>
tilpner: I don't want to fetch anything, I have everything local already
<tilpner>
Or does fetchFromGitHub want a different hash than fetchGit?
<infinisil>
nix-prefetch-git --unpack would work
<tilpner>
infinisil: Yes, you could try it with the local repo
<tilpner>
(I don't have my nixpkgs checkout yet, so I can't try)
<tilpner>
You might need to provide the current revision to nix-prefetch-git if master isn't the revision you want
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<infinisil>
Ah no it's nix-prefetch-url --unpack that would work
<tilpner>
Did you try it?
<infinisil>
Not yet, hold on
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<srhb>
nakkle: Maybe throw more -v's at nix-env and pastebin the error?
<tilpner>
nakkle: Who owns the lockfile it errors on? If you never ran it as root, how could it be owned by root?
<srhb>
It doesn't exist.
<tilpner>
Oh
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<tilpner>
And /nix/store is +x?
<srhb>
I feel like I've seen somithing similar when converting a single user to a multi user install, but not sure.
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<nakkle>
ok, figured it out, all the files in /nix/store had the correct permissions, but /nix/store itself was suddenly owned by root, and no command could create lock files in the store anymore. Thanks for your help guys :)
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<srhb>
Ah, good.
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<OmnipotentEntity>
on my machine, /nix/store is owned by root:nixbld and is drwxrwxr-t
<OmnipotentEntity>
I assume this is the normal permissions @nakkle
<srhb>
omnipotententity: It is for a multi user setup, but not a single user setup.
<srhb>
omnipotententity: (In a single user setup, it's supposed to be user:user for whatever user is intended to use Nix)
<OmnipotentEntity>
oic, that makes sense.
<nakkle>
yeah, compared the permissions to another system with a single user installation I had lying around, and there it was user:user as well
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<therealwaphire[m>
samueldr: any luck with solaar?
<samueldr>
therealwaphire[m: ?
<nakkle>
not sure what caused the permissions to go wild though. As I said, root doesn't know of any nix commands at all
<therealwaphire[m>
I'm having the same permissions problem after the update you pushed
<infinisil>
tilpner: Woo it worked :o
<samueldr>
therealwaphire[m: the PR was merged a small while ago, while apparently a similar effort was going on
<samueldr>
therealwaphire[m: hmmm, weird
<therealwaphire[m>
do I need to do anything else?
<therealwaphire[m>
I mean, other than updating the package?
<therealwaphire[m>
<samueldr "for 19.09, there'll be a new mod"> oh this is great :)
<samueldr>
just a note about implementation: "packages" within nix cannot do more than add files with limited permissions in /nix/store; explaining why there is the need for the udev packages thing
<samueldr>
when nixos builds the system, it uses the udev.packages option to merge udev rules from the packages and makes it accessible at a specific location for udev
<samueldr>
(in case you're wondering why)
<therealwaphire[m>
got it!
<therealwaphire[m>
yeah, that cleared up the problem for me
<therealwaphire[m>
Is there a way to use the latest plasma btw, while using 19.03?
<samueldr>
probably, but that's also probably way harder to pull off right
<samueldr>
(alternatively: I don't really know how to do it right)
<infinisil>
Huh, I just found this in nix-prefetch-git: ` find "$dir" -name .git -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf` Is there any difference to just doing `rm -rf "$dir/.git"`?
<therealwaphire[m>
I mean, I upgraded to unstable to get latest plasma but even in unstable, the plasma version is the last stable release
<therealwaphire[m>
so yeah, it should be way harder to do
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<samueldr>
there are risks that plasma would pull the wrong dependencies, or there would be mixed Qt stuff and that _can_ be bad for now
<samueldr>
hmm, maybe we don't have it packaged it yet, or landed in the channel yet?
<samueldr>
infinisil: subdirs
<infinisil>
Ah, submodules and stuff
<samueldr>
a/.git a/b/.git a/c/.git
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<samueldr>
likely
<infinisil>
Okay I don't need that, nixpkgs doesn't have any
<therealwaphire[m>
<samueldr "hmm, maybe we don't have it pack"> yeah, I guess it's one of those
<therealwaphire[m>
not that it matters tho
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<therealwaphire[m>
it's just that, coming from arch I feel the need to be on the bleeding edge
<samueldr>
looking at how gnome updates, it's hard work and it happens over a couple weeks/months into a feature branch
<samueldr>
maybe the same for plasma, though I don't know who/where/when it happens :)
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<therealwaphire[m>
ah, no problem
<therealwaphire[m>
one more thing if I needed custom themes for lightdm or sddm, where would I put them in NIx?
<samueldr>
with sddm _at the time_ the qml version was too far back for the sddm theme I was interested in
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<samueldr>
(too far being one from bleeding)
<therealwaphire[m>
oh, well, okay
<manveru>
therealwaphire[m: did the kde rebuild work?
<therealwaphire[m>
<manveru "therealwaphire: did the kde rebu"> going to do it now
<Myrl-saki>
I may have found a bug "on" findStableDevPath.
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<Myrl-saki>
Actually, not exactly.
<Myrl-saki>
Yeah, this is too edge-case to consider. Basically, loop devices can sometimes leave hanging symlinks on /dev/disk/by-id.
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<Guest9731>
Hello everyone - I am trying to configure a lenovo yoga laptop for a teenage girl with nixos 19.03 and need help figuring something out.
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<infinisil>
tilpner: Alright I figured out something *much* quicker than nix-prefetch-git
<Guest9731>
In particular: I can get monitor-sensor to tell me normal, left, inverted when I rotate the screen, and xrandr to rotate it when I pass it manually but I don't know how to write a nixos service that would take care of doing that all the time
<infinisil>
Hold on first need to verify it working properly
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<goibhniu1>
Hi Guest9731, hardware.sensor.iio.enable looks like it might be relevant
<Guest9731>
goibhniu1: thanks, that is what I did to get monitor-sensor to work
<infinisil>
Set p to the git repo you want to get the hash of, then `tmp=$(mktemp -ud); cp -rl "$p" "$tmp"; rm -rf "$tmp/.git"; nix-hash --type sha256 --base32 "$tmp"; rm -rf "$tmp"`
<infinisil>
This approximately takes 2 seconds
<Guest9731>
and this works: xrandr --output eDP-1 --rotate left
<infinisil>
And doesn't write anything to disk
<infinisil>
tilpner: ^
<goibhniu1>
ah, cool
<tilpner>
infinisil: Are you sure? nix-prefetch-git does more things in make_deterministic_repo
<tilpner>
Like repacking and pruning
<tilpner>
Which... would live in .git, so yes
<infinisil>
tilpner: Ah yeah, this only works with some assumptions, like no submodules, no keepDotGit, etc.
<nh2[m]>
gchristensen: do you know if it is understood why these errors exist in the first place?
<gchristensen>
yeah
<mikky>
funny thing with setting Xorg DPI via `xrandr` - it does not apply right away, only on new apps but it *always* applies "system-wide" when I open a new Chromium window (or any other chromium-based browser). What's the trigger?
<nh2[m]>
gchristensen: why is it? (or was the reply to the "what could go wrong?")
<gchristensen>
the simple answer is that 14,300 errors out of 115,400,000 requests is extremely within the AWS S3 SLA of 99%. the source of these errors are typically correlated to S3 having slow response times
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @feijoas opened pull request #59016 → Chili sddm theme → https://git.io/fjLgJ
<gchristensen>
can you paste the exact contents? that would be helpful
<DigitalKiwi>
uh i'll make a note of it the next time i see one or try and find if i have it somewhere...i have mentioned it before but probably on a deleted paste
<gchristensen>
thanks
<gchristensen>
it is probably a 503 error that you're seeing
<DigitalKiwi>
i know other people have had it too because when i went searching for it github issues/discourse messages are around
<samueldr>
I think it's "error 200" one, where weirdly it's sent something and it seems to be incomplete
<DigitalKiwi>
and it's possible there are multiple problems i'm talking about
<gchristensen>
right, the HTTP status code has been sent before the body is completely delivered
<samueldr>
seen it sometimes, but much less frequently than 503s, and 503s are infrequent in my CDN region
<clever>
usually a code 200 includes the expected size of the body
<samueldr>
and yes, there definitely is more than one problem, and it looks hard to introspect
<clever>
and if you dont get enough bytes, it should properly register as a failure
<gchristensen>
clever: right
<gchristensen>
I guess Nix doesn't detect that?
<gchristensen>
I wonder if nix streams curl's data to xz as it arrives, and then terminates when it loses
<gchristensen>
I wonder if nix streams curl's data to xz as it arrives, and then terminates when it closes
<samueldr>
kinda does, but in a not-nice way
<DigitalKiwi>
i usually attribute it to bad wifi/vpn
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<ajs124>
what's the difference between python3Packages and python3.pkgs?
<gchristensen>
DigitalKiwi: that *also* has an impact :)
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<samueldr>
though I think there might be multiple of _that_ subclass of errors
<gchristensen>
in summary, AWS CloudFront is a really really awesome CDN and works extremely well with S3. Fastly might also be a really really awesome CDN, but not out of the box when hooked up to S3 :P
<DigitalKiwi>
(i'm not certain it is but it's a possibility that i can use to explain it away ;p )
<globin>
ajs124: python3.pkgs is the new, preferred attr
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<samueldr>
disregard, that's not cache.nixos.org
<gchristensen>
especially since Fastly can't reasonable keep our entire cache hot in their endpoints
<clever>
samueldr: nas.localnet had a bug at one point, that would hang up clients after 60 seconds, if they failed to download the entire body within that time perior
<ajs124>
globin, any technical differences? or same thing different name?
<samueldr>
yeah, was searching for the error 200, but didn't look at the context until after sharing
<clever>
-rw-r--r-- 1 cachecache nogroup 120M Nov 13 21:01 /var/lib/cachecache/cachedir/0aw447l5f2zwf9lx23mq0vcaxmwscjah1l1hg277s6avmnjqqpln.nar.xz
<clever>
samueldr: but the above file isnt that bit
<globin>
ajs124: no other differences, i'd imagine that pythonXPackages will be removed at some point
<samueldr>
clever: ignore that, I didn't look at the context before sharing the line :)
<ajs124>
globin++
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[nixpkgs] @globin pushed 2 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjLg0
<DigitalKiwi>
like when i had realllly slow nix operations and it was fast on other machines and i thought it was zfs but really i had sync=always which would have been slow on any fs... and at one point i thought that might have been contributing to the bad nar file messages as i thought it taking so long made the curl timeout
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<DigitalKiwi>
making sync=standard didn't fix the curl tho but at least it's not unbearably slow anymore (things that should take a few seconds or minutes were taking 30 minutes)
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<mikky>
I need to add a custom CA, trying security.pki.certificateFiles = [ "/root/customcertroot.crt" ]; At rebuild getting error 'cat: /root/customcertroot.crt: No such file or directory'. The file is there and is readable.
<clever>
mikky: dont quote the path
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<clever>
samueldr: it is normal to see duplicates of packages, thats how nix works
<samueldr>
clever: I know, but maybe samrose might want to be told it too ;)
<samrose>
thanks clever
<clever>
too many sam*'s lol
<samrose>
I am trying to run a binary that does dynamic linking
<gchristensen>
ENOSAMSPC
<clever>
samrose: you want to use nix to get the path to openssl, nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A openssl is one way
<samrose>
and I get error like /nix/store/x36nlm3ndxfhnli8c8y3ydh78cpzpf09-openssl-1.0.2r/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0: no version information available I thought maybe my issue could be these multiple version
<samrose>
although nix should be allowing me to point to one or the other
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<DigitalKiwi>
https://gist.github.com/Kiwi/8caa1939d24fdb61dd45ce9af3721541 here are some various errors related to corrupt nar narinfo xz curl and nixos cache that i pulled from my search history and some issues i'll update it when i have more useful information to add
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[nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « workrave: 1.10.23 -> 1.10.31 »: https://git.io/fjL2z
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[nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « wings: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.3 »: https://git.io/fjL2a
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<globin>
gchristensen: ^
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<globin>
wrt cache errors
<gchristensen>
thanks :)
<gchristensen>
framing ... DigitalKiwi ipv6?
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<DigitalKiwi>
funnily enough i disabled ipv6 in the course of troubleshooting and it didn't really change anything
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<DigitalKiwi>
(it's probably already disabled by my isp/vpn)
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<capisce>
any idea why Alt-F8 would fail to switch virtual terminals?
<srhb>
capisce: We don't start that many.
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<clever>
capisce: most linux machines only have tty1 thru tty7 started normally
<capisce>
"The NixOS manual is available on virtual console 8 (press Alt+F8 to access) or by running nixos-help."
<srhb>
capisce: If the manual service is on, that's a bug, yeah
<gchristensen>
this is during installation?
<capisce>
but I'm not able to switch to any virtual terminal
<srhb>
capisce: Oh. :P
<capisce>
no, on an old install, which now hangs after logging in through the graphical interface
<capisce>
so I wanted to find the tty
<srhb>
Sounds like you've crashed.
<capisce>
for some reason it also doesn't list older generations when it boots any more
<srhb>
o_O
<clever>
capisce: tty8 is the graphical interface
<srhb>
clever: That's usually F7 though?
<srhb>
Sounds like all manner of things are wrong here :P
* clever
double-checks
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<capisce>
well, it's still responsive in the logging screen, and when I press the power off button I briefly see a tty
<clever>
srhb: your right, 7 is xorg
<clever>
capisce: if graphical is up, you must use ctrl+alt+f8
<clever>
capisce: or ctrl+alt+f1 to get a normal text login
<capisce>
ah, that worked, thanks
<linarcx>
Gyus. i'm a persian user. When i'm working with persian stuffs(like video subtitle, texts,...) i like to use FontA and when i'm working in english stuffs, i want to use FontB. How do this in nixos?
<linarcx>
In Arch, i can simply edit: `/etc/fonts/locale.conf`.
<das-g[m]>
DigitalKiwi: You can file an issue if you can't or don't want to make a PR. But PRs are probably more likely to be acted on.
<DigitalKiwi>
like for example i know keepassxc is out of date because the browser extension told me there's a new version so i thought about updating it and doing a PR but then i looked at their repo and a few people are having problems with it so i'm not sure it should be updated so that might be a bad example...
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<DigitalKiwi>
and like archlinux has an interface for reporting out of date packages so i wondered if that existed in some form somewhere
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<das-g[m]>
Also make sure to check whether there aren't already issues or PRs about a particular version bump.
<DigitalKiwi>
i search nixos issues a few hundred times a week :D
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<infinisil>
How could I override *all* haskell packages to have enableLibraryProfiling disabled by default?
<infinisil>
Something with overriding haskell's `mkDerivation`, but I'm usure how that could be done
<infinisil>
Trying to figure it out right now, but if somebody has done that before I'd love to know
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<capisce>
something is still failing when using the graphical login even with an older generation, although the machine doesn't hang, I can switch to another virtual terminal
<capisce>
using xmonad, any logs that could pinpoint any problems?
<capisce>
or X11 logs
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<capisce>
alright, I'm able to run X programs manually with DISPLAY=:0 from the virtual terminal, so it seems to be xmonad having trouble starting
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<steve-chavez>
Does anyone run postgres 11? I can switch from 9.6 to 10 with no problem. However for postgres 11 I get errors like `kill: (6844) - No such process`
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<infinisil>
Alright I got it, it's the same as for package overrides: mkDerivation = args: hsuper.mkDerivation (args // { enableLibraryProfiling = false; });
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<ee1943>
Hello, is it OK to ask questions about nix running on macOS in this channel?
<kalbasit>
ee1943: sure
<samrose>
clever: you wrote earlier "you want to use nix to get the path to openssl, nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A openssl is one way" that worked. But wouldn't everything that needs this specific version of openssl just use this same derivation? Why would nix also place an identical openssl derivation on the same machine?
<clever>
samrose: it may be an older version, due to upgrading things
<clever>
samrose: or it may be a 32bit version
<samrose>
hmm could be the 32 bit
<samrose>
otherwise each is labeled `openssl-1.0.2r`
<therealwaphire[m>
what package provides `typescript` on NixOS?
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<vcunat>
therealwaphire[m: I see nodePackages.typescript - so maybe that's what you want?
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<therealwaphire[m>
yup, thanks
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<steve-chavez>
Had some issues with using services.postgresql, postgres 11. Solution was to do `initdb` manually, this was failing silently due to a LOCALE error.
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<Lisanna>
Hey, I need some help understanding networking.nat port forwarding. The descriptions of the options are written as if I want to forward connections from internal interfaces to external, but I want to go the other way around: I want TCP connections coming in on e.g. port 8022 from the LAN to be sent to a local virtual machine on an internal interface on port 22. Can networking.nat be used for this? I can't seem to get it to work.
<cransom>
yes. nat requires you to have an ip to forward traffic to.
<Lisanna>
and I guess I'm also not sure in general what the difference between externalInterface and internalInterfaces is. Does internal only forward to external? i.e., should externalInterface = "vibr0" (VM interface) and internalInterfaces = [ "eth0" ] (LAN)?
<shazow>
_linarcx: I have in my .xinitrc: exec dbus-launch --exit-with-x11 i3
<gchristensen>
Lisanna: NAT pretends one set of networks is all behind one interface
<gchristensen>
Lisanna: so externalInterface is the one where traffic is coming in from, and internalInterfaces is where you want to forward it to
<Lisanna>
Okay
<_linarcx>
shazow: Aha. i think we should provide such a thing in home-manager too.
<Lisanna>
externalInterface = "eth0" and internalInterfaces = [ "vibr0" ]
<gchristensen>
like for your example, (something on externalInterface):22 would be forwarding to (one of the IPs accessible through internalInterfaces):8022
<shazow>
_linarcx: yea not a terrible idea, I'm in the process of adding it to my home.nix actually
<Lisanna>
OK
<_linarcx>
shazow: Great :)
<vcunat>
steve-chavez: we were changing glibc versions and they have incompatible locales. Are you sure you aren't mixing different versions on the same system? It's not a big deal normally, but NixOS normally provides just one locale, so if your app uses an incompatible glibc...
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<steve-chavez>
Though I ran `initdb` with `--no-locale` and now I'm facing some other issues.
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<carter>
question: whats a good example of a nix package that uses a maven based build?
<carter>
gotta bundle up some java
<obadz>
So I'd like my <nixpkgs> src files to be included in my system env (when I nixos-rebuild) so that my users which don't have access to my local checkout if nixpkgs can install packages with nix-env -iA with minimal rebuild. What's the best way to achieve that?
<manveru>
simpson: so can i feed that to pypi2nix or something?
<simpson>
manveru: Probably not. Gotta do it by hand.
<manveru>
i was afraid you'd say that :(
<simpson>
Why? How do you think exarkun and I do it?
<manveru>
i have no idea
<manveru>
how can you keep up with this stuff with no automation?
<manveru>
like half of the python-packages seem to be made manually :|
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<simpson>
What do you want from me? All software is shit.
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<NemesisD>
does anyone know why a derivation made with buildFHSUserEnv would have a correctly-configured environment (correct $PATH, etc) when you drop into the shell but not if you run it with -c "some script"?
<NemesisD>
does `profile` only get used on interactive sessions?
<manveru>
simpson: you just made me feel better :)
<simpson>
manveru: Oh. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
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<immae>
Hello there! I would like to install a dns server on my nix machine, but I would like to configure the zones in a declarative way. I know it’s theoretically (?) impossible since there is a strictly monotoneous sequence that is part of the zone definition, but I wonder what the options are to do something about it. Do you have any hint about this?
<immae>
clever: I’ll have a look, thanks for your share
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #59041 → Meson: don't set CC and CXX → https://git.io/fjL6R
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<immae>
clever: I don’t understand how you make sure that the "1" in "@ IN SOA ns.localnet. hostmaster (1 8H 2H 4W 1D)" will be a strictly increasing sequence each time the zones change? (It is mandatory when you want to have secondary servers). Or is it the part you didn’t finish?
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<clever>
immae: never planned for secondary servers when i wrote it
<clever>
> builtins.currentTime
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1554499732
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<clever>
immae: you could use this, but then it will never be the same build twice, and every nixos-rebuild/nixops deploy, will have something changed, and will have to restart bind after copying things
<clever>
and it will constantly re-sync the zone file, even if nothing has changed
<simpson>
Mildly disappointed that that doesn't evaluate constantly to `1`.
<simpson>
clever: Excellent. Timers are unsafe and should be treated as closely-held capabilities rather than ambient builtins.
<clever>
immae: you could also just make it an input, and manually increment it when you change the declarative part
<clever>
immae: the only other option, is to handle that kind of thing at runtime
<immae>
you mean during activationScript?
<clever>
immae: write a bash script that will diff the nix version of the file, against the "current" one, and if they differ, increment and sed it
<clever>
immae: just use a prestart on the bind service
<clever>
immae: activation scripts are overkill for this, and can brick the machine if you mess up
<immae>
ok
<immae>
I’ll think of this a bit more, thanks for your hints
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<clever>
immae: you could also just not have secondary servers, make everything primary, and deploy them all with nixops
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<clever>
then nix is the real primary, and bind just thinks its in control!
<immae>
No, I only control one server, the other ones are out of my control and I prefer it that way :)
<clever>
ah
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<immae>
If I end up with more than one server I will definitly consider it, but for now secondary are externalized
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<gchristensen>
has anyone used the nixos test framework with multiple IP address groups? for example, 192.168, plus 172.16, plus 10.?
<clever>
gchristensen: on the same subnet, or with a router?, the bittorrent.nix test uses a router
<immae>
clever: out of curiosity, how can the activation script brick the machines? I didn’t see any "critical" step in there apart from at the beginning, so even baddly written scripts will run after important tasks
<gchristensen>
same subnet
<clever>
immae: the activation script is sourced, under `set -e` so if anything returns non-zero status, the parent script aborts
<clever>
immae: then systemd isnt put into PATH, and stage-2 fails to find systemd!!
<immae>
ah
<clever>
i discovered that when helping somebody that tried to do network in his activation script
<clever>
and because he rarely reboot, it worked fine for months, and he GC'd the working versions
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<immae>
I see
<immae>
I didn’t know that activation script was run at boot
<clever>
gchristensen: if the prefix you configured doesnt match, then it will want to ARP the gateway instead, and route the packets via that, but you havent configured one
<ashkitten>
hey, how can i execute a command to set a cmake flag?
<NemesisD>
approximately how stupid is it to use a recent commit of nixpkgs? i'm using the last release on github. 19.03-beta from february, but that doesn't have GHC 8.6.4
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<nixuser>
hey there - is there a published IP range for cache.nixos.org for egress filtering purposes?
<nixuser>
or list of ranges?
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<gchristensen>
nixuser: cache.nixos.org is all of Fastly
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<nixuser>
roger, thanks gchristensen
<samueldr>
NemesisD: assume releases on github are meaningless
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<samueldr>
they are tags of whenever the release was cut off from master, and whenever it was marked stable
<samueldr>
further updates happen
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<samueldr>
release-19.03 is the "master for current stable", where updates are being committed
<samueldr>
should be pretty stable, but might have spotty coverage, and hasn't been tested (as in, passed through tests on hydra)
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<NemesisD>
samueldr: oof. one of my dependencies is marked as broken and won't evaluate on ghc864
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<infinisil>
NemesisD: Depending on the error it might be easy to fix
<NemesisD>
yeah, i'm going to clone it and ovverride the package to point to my local copy. the package hasn't been uploaded since 2015
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<NemesisD>
infinisil: how are breakages usually tracked. i just took the package in question and built against a stack lts on ghc864 and it built fine (with a few extra-deps for packages not in the lts)
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<ashkitten>
iis there a way to run a shell command and return iits output in a nix derivation?
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<clever>
ashkitten: nearly all derivations are just chunks of bash script to be ran
<clever>
so you can just use normal bash scripting in the phases
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<ashkitten>
clever: sorry uh i meant like, i need to use a shell command to generate something for the cmakeFlags array