<axel_parolta>
Hello all, I'm trying to mounting samba shares using https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Samba#cifs_mount. I added the option rw, uid and gid to be able to write to the shares without needing sudo rights. But that doesn't work. The shares are still mounted as root. How do you guys managed to deal with that?
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[nixpkgs] @Tmplt opened pull request #39514 → geant4: v10.0.2 -> v10.4.1, download all non-optional data files → https://git.io/vpCRX
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<Myrl-saki>
How to do `${ nixStuff }` with single quotes?
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<clever>
Myrl-saki: ''doublesingle'' or just 'single'?
<Myrl-saki>
Errr
<Myrl-saki>
clever: With """
<Myrl-saki>
clever: Well, to be more exact, I just want ot use an alternative to '''.
<hihello>
Lol. nix uninstall; nix upgrade. I loved pretty much everything else. And maybe some really pretty docs and quick start guides. Installation wasn't a problem for me. Easier than arch :)
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<teto1>
gchristensen: the wrappers confused me at start. nox or nix search will present 3 or 4 packages that look the same except some are wrapped. I got it when writing the neovim wrapper
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<teto1>
also coming from apt, I found surprising that I always had to specifiy some root nix expression like `nix-build -A toto ~/root/expr` instead of `nix-build -A toto`
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<hihello>
teto1: I've had a similar experience
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<teto1>
I wonder how `nixos-option systemd.services."nm-dispatcher".path` works, since there is no systemd.services."nm-dispatcher" defined anywhere, there is just the service file copied in some folder ?
<gchristensen>
/
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<hihello>
I started using NixOS two weeks ago and it's forced me to install on almost every machine I use. I think it's that great :)
<gchristensen>
:D nice!
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[nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #39516 → cpython: don't use lchmod() on Linux, fix w/musl → https://git.io/vpC2D
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[nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #39516 → cpython: don't use lchmod() on Linux, fix w/musl → https://git.io/vpC2D
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[nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #39517 → cpython: don't use lchmod() on Linux, fix w/musl → https://git.io/vpC2d
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<gchristensen>
any russians around?
<hihello>
not of direct descent :)
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<Myrl-saki>
I'm using Nix on Debian, GHC locks up if I use a large -j value. This is on binary Nix.
<Myrl-saki>
Err
<Myrl-saki>
Binary GHC*
<Myrl-saki>
It just stays on S state.
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<Myrl-saki>
S state... estate.
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<Myrl-saki>
So
<Myrl-saki>
I found a remote injection on my remote nix-eval thingy. Anyone wanna help?
<gchristensen>
does /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs exist?
<colemickens>
.../channels/ only containers manifest.nix
<colemickens>
no .../channels/nixos
<gchristensen>
did you run nix-channel --update, as root?
<colemickens>
yup. ran it again, just says "unpacking channels..." and nothing else.
<colemickens>
I think I had specifically run `nix-channel --update nixos`
<colemickens>
(still same output though)
<colemickens>
nix-channel --list doesn't show the channel I added though, let me dig in here.
<gchristensen>
ok
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<gchristensen>
maybe `sudo -i` then run the nix-channel commands
<colemickens>
Yeah, you guessed right. I didn't add the channel as root. It looks like it's going now. "signed-binary-caches" looks new, but it seems to be ignoring it and is rebuilding. Looks promising.
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<gchristensen>
_phew_ :)
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<colemickens>
rebuilt, rebooted, seems to just be working. excellent.
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<gchristensen>
great to hear!
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<colemickens>
Is there a crash course in hosting my own channel? Whether it's with hydra or without? I can orchestrate a nix-build on a reasonable beefy VM and push assets to a storage container.
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<gchristensen>
colemickens: man nix-channel has some details...
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<gchristensen>
but maybe not all. bed time, I can help another time
<colemickens>
thx!
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<teto1>
just discovered "systemctl edit" could override systemd units (which is more practical than patching nixpkgs systemd.service as I had started)
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<vaibhavsagar>
teto1: mutating things in the nix store sounds like an incredibly bad idea
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<teto1>
vaibhavsagar: yes, I hope to submit the changes later but rather than patching the service, I find it really cool to be able to do environment.etc."systemd/system/NetworkManager-dispatcher.service.d/override.conf".text = "Environment=${iproute}/bin: ..."
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<vaibhavsagar>
I'm a bit wary of anything that makes it easy to modify config in two places, but that does look cool
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<teto1>
vaibhavsagar: yep it makes debug harder so I am unsure it is fitted for a longterm solution. Lasttime I checked networkmanager dev systemd units they had changed them which means if I patch nixpkgs version, it is already obsolete
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<teto1>
arf I spoke too fast my last command provokes on rebuild "mkdir: cannot create directory '/nix/store/iqnc04nnbmv1fjr3msbdjak8rladnqxx-etc/etc/systemd/system/NetworkManager-dispatcher.service.d': Permission denied", I suppose it conflicts with the folder already symlinked by nixos
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[nixpkgs] @jwiegley pushed to master « perlPackages.ListMoreUtilsXS: Fix build on Darwin »: https://git.io/vpCPi
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[nixpkgs] @aszlig opened pull request #39526 → nixos/dhparams: Introduce a 'stateful' option → https://git.io/vpCPj
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<kandinski>
I'm having trouble with networking (can't connect to Vagrant-managed VirtualBox VM) and when I try to reload networking, this happens: https://paste.debian.net/1022078/
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[nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed 2 commits to python-unstable: https://git.io/vpCXy
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→ b0720188 by @dotlambda: python: docker-pycreds: 0.2.2 -> 0.2.3
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<teto1>
kandinski: the '/usr/bin/dbus-send part' seems wrong
<kandinski>
is it worth opening a ticket for the project?
<etu>
If I do "systemctl cat network-manager" I see the same line in my service file. I'm on the latest nixos-unstable.
<etu>
kandinski: Either that or try to fix it yourself and make a PR.
<kandinski>
etu: I could try, but it would require a lot of hand-holding.
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<teto1>
the doc on nixos/nixpkgs+systemd is scarce. The systemctl cat network-manager.service shows that the config is composed from upstream configuration + some overrides generated by nixos
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<teto1>
hell yeah got the network manager dispatch hooks working !
<teto1>
kandiski most likely you need to add a substitueInPlace in pkgs/tools/networking/network-manager/default.nix to replace the dbus path
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<kandinski>
teto1: you are way too kind
<teto1>
kandinski: my office neighbor just called me snarky so I have to redeem myself, plus I am working on that code at the moment ;)
<teto1>
kandinski: I hardly know anything about systemd/dbus but nixos has its own way to deal with both, not sure you can run it just like that. Maybe stick to update the networkmanager package via substituting 'ExecReload=/usr/bin/dbus-send' with 'ExecReload=${dbus}/bin/dbus-send'
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<teto1>
rebuild and check your changes are applied with systemctl cat network-manager.service
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<teto1>
(hoping you don't lose connectivity :p)
<kandinski>
heh, I have to feed the kids, I'll try later. Thanks!
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→ 42ecb0dd by @ChengCat: inziu-iosevka: init at 1.13.2
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→ 8440100b by @Mic92: inziu-iosevka: disable hydra build due its size
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<sir_guy_carleton>
is klipper included in the nix repo? i can't find it in the package list.
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wtf matrix
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<elvishjerricco>
CrazedProgrammer: nixos-rebuild just needs to be changed to use `nix build` instead of `nix-build`. I looked into it once, but it seemed a little nontrivial, due to the other features nixos-rebuild supports.
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<milka>
Hi, I have a problem with evolution mail. I don't know which files and on which position I should fix this issue? Do I need to do nix-rebuild switch too? Thx very much. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/17926
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<milka>
Evolution do not ask for the master password and it does not save the passwords. libgnome-keyring and Gnome3 keyring are installed. Where I should add those entries and should I run nix-rebuild switch too? Thank you for your advise: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/17926
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<milka>
I'm not asked for the master password in evolution. The keyrings are installed. Searching the web gave me the github link. So, this issue should be fixed then?
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<fgaz>
is there a way to globally disable tests in nixpkgs?
<fgaz>
like pkgs.haskell.lib.dontCheck
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<alp>
fgaz, so not just for all haskell packages?
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<alp>
for all haskell packages, you can simply override the mkDerivation attribute of your haskell package set to always set 'doCheck = false;' for all haskell derivations.
<fendor>
does the maven2nix plugin work reliable?
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<milka>
jtojnar: services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3 = true? No. It is a very fresh installation of NixOS
<jtojnar>
milka: enabling tha will install full GNOME
<milka>
jtojnar: I only use Evolution mail.
<milka>
okay. Thank you!
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<milka>
jtojnar: Would an entry like ' Service command: services.gnome3.gnome-keyring.enable = true;" or somethink like "Service: Yes/No" in the package section on the website makes sense?
<jtojnar>
milka: services.gnome3.gnome-keyring.enable = true; might be enough but I have not tried it
<jtojnar>
milka: we usually write required services to a comment or longDescription
<srhb>
etu: Only thing I see missing is linux evals.
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<milka>
Some days ago I've asked if someone has experience with NixOS and a MacBook ~2009. I do not have any OSX installed. Booting still fails. Here are a very detailed debugging log of my failed installation tests. Is someone able to see where the error is? https://0bin.net/paste/yoSGErPYrFQEXrwg#tOdAnazuAcIr4nXaHHPnw6bsyPd4TXZQzKD5S-E+kMz
* goibhniu
thought EFI was required for MacBooks ... maybe only for dual-boot?
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<milka>
Hint: I needed to remaster the ISO because booting hangs on "Select 1. or 2 for booting".
<milka>
* goibhniu: Wow. You have read the log very fast ;-)
<milka>
rrEFInd was also errourous, before I have purges MacOSX
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<milka>
As my MacBook is totally empty I can test this iso, thank you.
<joehh>
how do I convert an int to a string?
<manveru>
joehh: toString
<joehh>
ie { myInt = 42; myString = "I have ${myInt} things" }
<joehh>
ok
<joehh>
should be { myInt = 42; myString = "I have ${toString myInt} things";}
<joehh>
thanks manveru - works nicely
<milka>
goibhniu: What should I add to the issue tracker without irritating the contributors too much? Because my issue is maybe! related...
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<srhb>
milka: The description of what you tried was very thorough. I'd open a new issue with a short title describing that and your debug info in the content of the mssage.
<srhb>
adamt: Oh, hang on, I realize now I saw the wrong link.
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<leotaku>
When I want to install 2bwm or any package which starts with a _ (_2bwm,_2048-in-terminal,...) i get an error saying that the expression does not evaluate to a derivation, what could I be doing wrong?
<srhb>
adamt: chromium is really tricky. I think the best bet currently is to split up the build into multiple phases.
<srhb>
adamt: Meaning, one produces a build output that is used for the next phase.
<srhb>
adamt: There are some other suggestions in the issue, did you see it?
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<Taneb>
Any idea what would cause a Hydra job to end abnormally with "Killed by signal 15." (which I'm fairly sure is SIGTERM)
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<runciter>
Taneb, OOM killer?
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[nixpkgs] @abbradar pushed to master « haskellPackages.encoding: fix build with Cabal 2.0 »: https://git.io/vpWlu
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<Taneb>
runciter: it's concievable
<adamt>
srhb: No, I didn't read the related issue, but I'm not going to try and split it up into several phases. But it does seem like something is totally off with the build taking 10h+
<ertes-w>
ProofTechnique[m: that doesn't work with most PEAR packages… they don't have configure scripts/makefiles, but rather an XML file that you need to use via the 'pear' command line tool
<ertes-w>
there is build-pecl for PECL packages… i'll see if i can adapt it
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed to master « release-combined: don't include tests.chromium »: https://git.io/vpWa5
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<dx__>
clever: 'gcc command not found'
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<dx__>
clever: i tried to skip the gcc in the makefile, still seeing same error 'cannot find crtbegin.o'
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<moredhel_[m]>
Hi all, does anyone use the dockerTools.pullImage code? it just failed again! after 30 mins downloading & extracting...
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[nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #39562 → linux bootstrap: remove assertion failure from dev, fixes 'nix eval' → https://git.io/vpWr2
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<dx__>
moredhel_[m]: been curious how it's done. In pure docker, it's via Dockerfile. Any url to read to?
<moredhel_[m]>
we are working on getting better integration with nix. The dockerPull command is spinning up a VM though and downloading it before pulling it out and putting it into the nix store.
<moredhel_[m]>
the download works fine, it's just really slow, then the extraction is painfully slow, ~30 mins to extract a 600mb tar file.
<infinisil>
symphorien: Do you happen to know how I can specify a git dependency in a folder?
<infinisil>
libzfs = { git = "rust-libzfs" } doesn't work
<symphorien>
I think that's path =
<symphorien>
the repo being git is not irrelevant
<symphorien>
*now
<infinisil>
Then I get "Unable to update file file:///home/infinisil/code/rust/rust-libzfs" and "found a virtual manifest at `/home/infinisil/code/rust/rust-libzfs/Cargo.toml` instead of a package manifest"
<mightybyte>
ikwildrpepper: Hmmm, just tried an m5.2xlarge and it's not working.
<symphorien>
Ralith_: I was wondering if the method they recommand in the book (building bindings yourself in build.rs as opposed to running bindgen as a standalone executable) was the right one, because wrapping an executable is far easier than touching the source
<Ralith_>
symphorien: I think the consensus is that packages should generate their bindings once and commit them to version control so people don't need (a bindgen compatible version of) llvm installed to build your package, but in some cases this is very difficult due to preprocessor use or something
<Ralith_>
also, patching bindgen would avoid the need for a wrapper for standalone use too!
<infinisil>
I mean they do have the generated bindings.rs in the repo, not sure why cargo can't just use those
<Ralith_>
writing a wrapper for the bindgen executable is harder than it'd seem, at least if you're as inexpert at bash wrangling as I am
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed to release-18.03 « release-combined: don't include tests.chromium »: https://git.io/vpWMf
<infinisil>
Oh wait, probably it won't work at runtime, because I had to remove the part that links to zfslib
<Mic92_>
i.e. a loose cable
<ghostyy>
it's seated right in the motherboard
<Ralith_>
infinisil: you should fix the build script rather than disabling it, as indeed linking libs is needed
<infinisil>
Yeah, I think I got it, hold on
<Ralith_>
symphorien: yes; to reiterate, I believe the community consensus is that that advice is bad
<symphorien>
ah ok
<Ralith_>
especially if you ever hope to build on windows
<Ralith_>
or if your distro's llvm isn't one that bindgen supports
<Ralith_>
compiling llvm takes like an hour even on good hardware
<symphorien>
well the first step might be to remove this advice from the book then
<infinisil>
symphorien: Ralith_: So what I did was replace the bindgen build script with just `pkg_config::probe_library("libzfs").unwrap(); and println!("cargo:rustc-link-lib=zpool");
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<moredhel_[m]>
hmm, alright... dump question. I obviously don't have network access during the build process of a derivation. How do I run a custom tool with network access, then pass its result on to the no-network build?
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<Ralith>
moredhel: I'm pretty fuzzy on the details but I think if you define a fixed-output derivation, i.e. one that nix knows has a specific hash for its output, you get network access
<moredhel_[m]>
ie, I define it as usual regarding a builder script etc... but I also pass in a sha256 saying what the output will be? does this also work with directories?...
<moredhel_[m]>
I've tried reading through the nix-prefetch-git code but am still not sure
<symphorien>
yes, the hash will be recursive
<symphorien>
see the option outputHashMode
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<symphorien>
anyway, just pust a bogus hash and nix will tell you on first failed build which was the right hash
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<moredhel_[m]>
Ralith: you were correct, setting the sha256 gives me network access. now I need to fight with certificates! https is being unkind
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<symphorien>
add ca-certs to buildInputs maybe
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<moredhel_[m]>
got it! just told the tool to ignore certs
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[nixpkgs] @globin pushed 7 commits to release-18.03: https://git.io/vpWy3
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→ c37bedd7 by @globin: gitaly: 0.81.0 -> 0.95.0
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→ 92ba0f71 by @globin: gitlab-shell: 6.0.3 -> 7.1.2
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→ 922fd39e by @globin: gitlab-workhorse: 3.6.0 -> 4.1.0
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<azriphale>
Hi all. I've just updated to my system nixos 18.03, but I'm not able to update my user environment. When running "nix-env -u --leq", it terminates with "error: stack overflow (possible infinite recursion)"
<azriphale>
I'm at a loss as to how to find the issue
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<Ralith>
moredhel: dangerous habit
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<joepie91>
moredhel_[m]: that's essentially disabling the security provided by TLS
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<bfrog>
so does screenshare not work with chromium in nixos?
<bfrog>
just tried and it just says it can't share screen
<bfrog>
works fine in arch and such
<clever>
bfrog: it works on hangouts but it fails on google meetings
<bfrog>
I swear google breaks their f'n screenshare weekly
<bfrog>
its like, I don't change anything, it breaks anyways
<ottidmes>
I want a nix-shell environment for GHC with the packages belonging to the project I am working on. I now just copy over the dependencies, but I would rather have it reuse what is in libraryHaskellDepends of the package and in question and put it in ghc.ghcWithPackages. How do I achieve this, or are there better ways to achieve this?
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<clever>
ottidmes: the .env attribute of most haskell packages is suitable for use with nix-shell
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<ottidmes>
clever: I experimented with that, but it did not work for me, I will try again
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<samueldr>
goibhniu: that's pretty new, and the contributor was literally working minutes ago on that page
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<samueldr>
vodkabot [the contributor], whoever they are, doing a great job :)
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<goibhniu>
samueldr: go vodkabot! :D
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<infinisil>
ottidmes: For use with cabal?
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<mightybyte>
ikwildrpepper: On those nixos AMIs, how do you make it take the whole space allocated to the volume?
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<ottidmes>
clever: This works: nix-shell -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; (haskell.packages.ghc822.callPackage ./. {}).env', not sure how to get things like hlint in it as well, worst case I just keep those in my system env
<ottidmes>
infinisil: Yeah
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<ottidmes>
infinisil: I just want to have a dev environment where I can use ghci to experiment with my project
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<judson>
Using nix-shell as an interpreter, and getting an error that looks like it's completely ignoring NIX_PATH?
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<judson>
`error: getting status of '/home/judson/bin/default.nix': No such file or directory`
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<infinisil>
ottidmes: `(pkgs.haskellPackages.callPackage ./cabal2nix.nix {}).env` in shell.nix
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<infinisil>
ottidmes: And to get the other file, do `cabal2nix . > cabal2nix.nix`
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<ottidmes>
infinisil: Thanks, but like mentioned above (although I did not mention I used cabal2nix already), I got so far, but how do you extend that. For example, I also want to have cabal itself, hlint and uuagc available
<romildo>
Enabling services.spamassassin on master makes nixos-rebuild fail because of the builder for perl-Razor2-Client-Agent-2.84 failing. Has anybody seen this? Any clues?
<infinisil>
romildo: "Failing" doesn't mean much, what's the error?
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<ottidmes>
romildo: I have not clue, but maybe post the failed build log, if there are any clues to be had, they are likely in there
<romildo>
That is the output of nixos-rebuild boot 2>&1 | tee /var/tmp/nixos-rebuild.log
<judson>
Any ideas why I'd be having problems using nix-shell as an iterpreter?
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<dx__>
pls enligthen: in my one nixos install, 'nix-env -i mutt' just did a download..whereas in my other nixos box, the same command seems to compile from source.
<Turion>
When running nixos-rebuild --switch, it compiles rustc-1.24.0. I don't want that, it takes forever and my computer is slow. How do I avoid that? Do I maybe have weird settings somewhere so my rustc is not in the binary cache? How to find them? (I don't use rust) Or how do I find out which dependency pulls it in?
<ottidmes>
I plan to use Rust tomorrow for a hobby project and plan to setup a working environment for it tonight. I looked at what the nixpkgs manual had to say about Rust and it seems well supported. Would you recommend building via Nix or Cargo? And any other tips for setting up a Rust environment in NixOS? (I do not use Vim or Emacs)
<maurer>
ottidmes: If you are heavily familiar with nix already, check out carnix
<dx__>
Turion: i have the same issue.. i have a very slow laptop.
<maurer>
ottidmes: Otherwise, consider using the mozilla overlay to use cargo
<maurer>
ottidmes: Pretty much, but it removes cargo from the picture even a bit more than cabal2nix
<dx__>
guys, i'm puzzled why 'nix-env -i mutt' did a source compilation in one nixos but merely did a binary download in another nixos box...
<ottidmes>
Turion: There is nix-diff, which can tell you what the difference between your deriviation and that on the cache
<maurer>
ottidmes: you will need to have a Cargo.lock file first though, and that requires cargo to produce
<judson>
And complains that "error: getting status of '/home/judson/bin/default.nix': No such file or directory"
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<ottidmes>
maurer: LIBCLANG_PATH = "${llvmPackages.clang-unwrapped.lib}/lib"; seems like an important bit
<Turion>
ottidmes: Yes, that sounds good! Thanks!
<infinisil>
Judson: I think you need to provide at least 1 package with -p, otherwise nix-shell will try to find a file to use for the shell
<infinisil>
Judson: What you're doing right now is no different than just using python3 directly in #!/usr/bin/env python3
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<infinisil>
Judson: You probably want `nix-shell -i python3 -p python3`
<maurer>
ottidmes: That's only needed for bindgen
<maurer>
ottidmes: You can delete it if you don't need bindgen
<ottidmes>
maurer: So I generate a Cargo.lock file with cargo for my project, which describes the dependencies of my project, and then use carnix to generate a nix package that can just be build via nix-build. And if that for some reason does not work for me, I would be best of trying the mozilla nixpkgs overlay and use the nightly cargo/rustc, right?
<infinisil>
ottidmes: Well for just development I can recommend to just use cargo, no nix stuff. And if you need some system library to link to (e.g. with openssl), just create a simple shell.nix with pkgconfig and openssl as buildinputs, then cargo build in that one instead
<maurer>
ottidmes: More or less, yeah
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<maurer>
ottidmes: if you have native deps, you will need to write a little bit of nix on top of it to get carnix to build right
<maurer>
ottidmes: the "marduk.nix" in that directory was generated directly by carnix
<ottidmes>
maurer: So like infinisil suggested and like you showed in that shell.nix, if something outside the rust world is needed, I would just have to build an nix-shell for it, and then it is able to find it and link it properly?
<maurer>
Yeah
<Turion>
How do I find out which derivation a daemon is currently building?
<maurer>
carnix needs to be told to inject it if you want to do that, like in default.nix
<maurer>
but if you're doing regular shell.nix/mozilla overlay (which is the easiest way)
<maurer>
just add it to buildInputs and it should go
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<infinisil>
romildo: Are you sure you're using master nixpkgs? because in master this one builds just fine, even in the cache
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<ottidmes>
maurer: Ah, so since carnix just generates a file that calls buildRustCrate like documented on nixpkgs, I can still use those things documented there like crateOverrides
<ottidmes>
maurer: Would you also recommend using the mozilla overlay when using the carnix approach?
<maurer>
ottidmes: I use mozilla overlay for development, and to update my cargo lock file
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<maurer>
I then exit the shell and run nix-build to produce semi-releases for running my experiment/distributing binaries
<treets>
jtojnar: "dbus services need to be added to services.dbus.packages" How I do this? PS: I didn't found it in the manual
<ottidmes>
maurer: And that latter bit, the nix-build, is done with the rustc not from the mozilla overlay?
<tlotze>
Hi. Probably a beginner's question, but I cannot seem to find an answer: I'm using nixpkgs (unstable) on top of another Linux distribution. Now, I'd like to use Firefox from nixpkgs but I cannot get it to apply antialiasing when rendering text. (It does work when using Firefox from the underlying system with the same profile.) Is this a matter of installing additional things (libraries, fonts) or of configuration?
<maurer>
ottidmes: Correct, it uses the rustc stable from inside nixpkgs instead
<maurer>
ottidmes: I do things this way in large part because a lot of the tools I use to develop need to run against nightly rustc
<maurer>
but the project is intended to build with stable rustc
<maurer>
and I want to make sure I haven't accidentally slipped in any other deps I wasn't aware of
<infinisil>
tlotze: Are the versions the same?
<ottidmes>
maurer: Alright, makes sense, thanks for making this all clear to me! :)
<maurer>
(For example, clippy runs only on nightly, and rustfmt formats differently on stable vs nightly)
<romildo>
infinisil, I am really on nixos-unstable (with a very few number of packages from master), sorry.
<tlotze>
infinisil: no, the one from the system is 52, the one from nixpkgs is 59. I had hoped to be able to upgrade beyond 56 this way.
<ottidmes>
maurer: As a beginner, I guess I will just use the version that is best documented, so I assume stable
<maurer>
ottidmes: tbh if you're a beginner, ignore the carnix stuff, just use the mozilla overlay with nightly
<maurer>
ottidmes: Also, despite the asinine name, I'd suggest trying out cargo-clippy
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<maurer>
it can help you find places where you've written inefficiently or non-idiomatically if you're starting out
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<ottidmes>
maurer: Is nightly also easy to use in a Windows environment. I ask because I am going to work on it with a friend that develops on Windows, and we really should be using the same version
<ottidmes>
maurer: Cool, so its a linter for Rust, like hlint is for Haskell
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @WilliButz to master « grafana: 5.0.4 -> 5.1.0 »: https://git.io/vpWNd
<maurer>
ottidmes: https://rustup.rs/ is how you install rust on everything not nix
<maurer>
Nightly doesn't bump unless RLS (something IDEs and fancy text editors use), rustfmt, rustc, and cargo build on linux, windows, and mac
<maurer>
so you shouldn't end up on different versions with that
<ottidmes>
maurer: Then mozilla overlay nightly it is! :)
<swaaws>
Does any how to exist “how can I check the new version of program xyz work” as a guide. In my case it’s a new version of weechat 2.1 but in the pkgs are 2.0 described. Which steps are needed to check the new version (in addition push the new ver to pkgs) with minimal change of my host?
<infinisil>
tlotze: Hmm I have no idea, but I suggest asking in #firefox on mozilla's irc server
<ottidmes>
Yaniel: maurer: Thanks for letting me know, I have seen rustup mentioned by name, but did not yet know what it was exactly, I will let my friend know about it, before he wastes time on trying something else
<tlotze>
infinisil: thank you
<Yaniel>
well it's what the download link on rust-lang.org points you to...
<infinisil>
Rustup doesn't really work well on NixOS
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<infinisil>
But mozilla's overlay does, which pretty much replaces rustup on NixOS
<ottidmes>
Yaniel: lol, I missed that because I just when straight to googling NixOS Rust, but just in case I will check with him if he ended up using it
<romildo>
infinisil, is there anything I can do to have spamassassin enabled on my nixos-unstable system?
<Izorkin>
how to change privateIpv4 in nixops libvirtd vm ?
<infinisil>
romildo: You can override the failing package with the master version
<infinisil>
20:04:49 <dx__> guys, i'm puzzled why 'nix-env -i mutt' did a source compilation in one nixos but merely did a binary download in another nixos box...
<dx__>
'nix-env -i mutt' does a quick download in one box,.. in the other, it did a source compile
<clever>
dx__: what does this output on both machines?
<dx__>
same output.. i pasted above
<dx__>
a sec..
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<sir_guy_carleton>
so adding new programs to system enviroment (via nixos-rebuild) doesn't update the application launcher in kde plasma5. can anybody think of any fixes?
<dx__>
same with other machine, except slightly different in uuid
<clever>
dx__: both machines print the same string?
<infinisil>
Hah, well that's the point dx__
<goibhniu>
sir_guy_carleton: don't the applications appear after restarting plasma?
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<infinisil>
dx__: You can find out the exact version of nixpkgs you're using on both machines with `nix-instantiate --eval '<nixpkgs>' -A lib.nixpkgsVersion`
<clever>
dx__: can you pastebin the output of this command on each machine: nix show-derivation $(nix-instantiate '<nixpkgs>' -A mutt)
<clever>
along with what infinisil asked for
<dx__>
the other machine is: "/nix/store/f1c5k5vac133n9m8kvnda16m8373zm7y-mutt-1.9.4"
<sir_guy_carleton>
no, they don't
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<clever>
dx__: /nix/store/f1c5k5vac133n9m8kvnda16m8373zm7y-mutt-1.9.4 is not on the binary cache, so something is different on that machine
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<infinisil>
Izorkin: Um, how about networking.privateIpv4?
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<Izorkin>
in config add vm01 = { ... networking.privateIpv4 = myip. This ip replaced to 192.168.122.xxx
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<Izorkin>
nixops libvirtd not support only physical network?
<ikitat>
$ nix-env -i nix-repl
<ikitat>
error: undefined variable ‘placeholder’ at /nix/store/i8ysmk0m878mcshl73kcx36cw1a0niw3-nixpkgs-18.09pre138003.355d39c02c5/nixpkgs/pkgs/development/libraries/science/math/sympow/default.nix:38:17
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<ikitat>
suprising that sympow error would block me from installing nix-repl, though I'm able to install the nix-shell without trouble.
<steveeJ>
ikitat: nix-repl is now "nix repl", you don't need to install it anymore
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<ikitat>
I'm not running nix 2.0
<ikitat>
installing hello causes the same problem
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<ikitat>
I'd like to contribute a fix, assuming I can understand the intent of 'placeholder' in the expression.
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<treets>
I'm running out of space with my new install. I have already optimized the store. How I can remove old rebuilds without bricking my new system?
<jgt>
if I open nix-repl and load a default.nix with `:l default.nix`, it says "Added 52 variables.". Is there a way to show the values of all those variables?
<ikitat>
Can I do something like nix-channel -add src/my-nix-pkg-repo ?
<judson>
Thanks, infinisil. Got it working only to discover that the purpose wasn't accomplishable - cVim has stopped providing an external editor for security reasons.
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<jgt>
oh… I can just tab-complete to explore stuff in the nix repl
<{^_^}>
→ 7ebebcb3 by R. RyanTM: libmwaw: 0.3.13 -> 0.3.14
<{^_^}>
→ 5c5f5749 by @7c6f434c: Merge pull request #39535 from r-ryantm/auto-update/libmwaw
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<ikitat>
or, it seems like I can just nix-env -f sympow/default.nix -i
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<ikitat>
but since I'm using nixpkgs/unstable via channels, this breaks my environment until it's fixed upstream. I'd like a temporary work around if possible
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<infinisil>
ikitat: you can just not use the channels by changing your NIX_PATH to point nixpkgs to something different
<infinisil>
ikitat: Wait what are you actually trying to do? I'm confused
<ikitat>
infinisil: nix-env -i nix-repl
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<ikitat>
infinisil: and somehow sympow/default.nix error blocks me, yet it doesn't appear to be a dependency
<infinisil>
Ah, so this placeholder thing is a nix 2.0 thing, and apparently it's used in your version of nixpkgs
<ikitat>
I *think* my trouble with 2.0 is related to how darwin multiuser install handles channels... and I may have resolved that by hacking the install script to do a single user install
<ikitat>
yes, that's the one... should unstable be compatible with nix 1?
<infinisil>
Did you report the issue?
<infinisil>
It should be compatible, but somebody messed it up
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #39570 → chromium: See if Hydra obeys a 24h meta.timeout → https://git.io/vplTY
<treets>
srhb: I've seen, that are some MacBook users here when they left. They should know how I can get my MacBook to boot without rEFInd. Some days.
<srhb>
treets: I believe you can copy /dev/vcs1 to some file to get the _current_ contents of the buffer.
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<srhb>
But it sounds like it might be a dmesg thing
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<treets>
srhb: Perfect: tail gives me what I need. Thank you!
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<srhb>
treets: You're welcome.
<treets>
dmesg think? Uh, this is too high
<srhb>
dmesg prints the kernel ring buffer.
<treets>
You mean that is not a radeon error?
<srhb>
Oh, no, I just meant that's a way to get at that specific log.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @LnL7 pushed to master « sympow: don't use placeholder »: https://git.io/vpltc
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<treets>
meanwhile I'm looking for the issue template...
<treets>
keep learning.
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<srhb>
The issue template? That should just pop up when you open an issue, right? :)
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<steveeJ>
I'm trying to get started with nixops; using the virtualbox driver to experiment, I get "kernel driver not accessible" as an error from the GUI when I want to deploy to it
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<steveeJ>
when I start the virtualbox GUI the deployment works, but that's not exactly what I want
<steveeJ>
I'd like to keep it headless
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<seville>
steveeJ, you can declare vbox as headless in your infrastructure declaration like this: deployment.virtualbox.headless = true;
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<srhb>
steveeJ: fwiw I had more luck with virtd.
<steveeJ>
seville: cool! do I have to start from scratch or can I somehow update the deployment?
<treets>
I'm building a new kernel now and I am running out of space. How can I remove old rebuilds from the store? I have probably 40' until it's full B)
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<srhb>
treets: nix-collect-garbage --older-than 30d for instance
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<srhb>
Er, --delete-older-than 30d
<seville>
steveeJ, nixops deploy -d might be enough to redeploy, otherwise nixops destroy -d
<treets>
srhb: can I use hours too? Otherwise all my buildings from the beginning will be removed.
<treets>
It is only day 3 with my new Nix
<srhb>
treets: Anything currently in use will not be removed
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<srhb>
treets: Oh, ow. you might be running into a space issue that's hard to fix then...
<srhb>
The Nix store is quite space hungry.
<treets>
srhb: Doesn't matter. I can fix this later
<srhb>
Ok :)
<treets>
Can I use --older-than 30d && --younger-than 32d?
<treets>
If not I probably need to move them temporarely. But this is very handy.
<treets>
uncomfortable
<MichaelRaskin>
Can't use just ls -lt, and delete the needed generations manually?
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<MichaelRaskin>
GC applies --older-than to profile generations, not to the dates of builds
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<treets>
MichaelRaskin: Good to know. Yes. I mean the builds!
<treets>
Can I delete them in the filesystem instead and than rebuild the store database?
<MichaelRaskin>
Erm. Please use nix-store --delete on specific paths
<MichaelRaskin>
That you can do
<MichaelRaskin>
(obviously, reverse dependencies will also be removed)
<srhb>
Oh, good catch.
<treets>
Do you have an example of an reverse dependency which could be a problem after I did nix-store --delete [BUILD]?
<treets>
I'm not comfortable with the package manegement actually
<steveeJ>
seville: so if I change the expression of a deployment, I can't update it somehow?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, if you delete libX11, you also delete GTK
<clever>
nix also keeps track of what is needed and will refuse to let you delete something thats potentially in-use
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<seville>
steveeJ: Personally I'd just redeploy. There might be another way, though.
<steveeJ>
srhb: seems sane to try libvirt. virtualbox has always given me trouble, also with vagrant
<pxc>
hey grahamc! I just wanted to drop-by to say 'thank you' for adding systemd-based multi-user support for Linux users to the Nix installer
<pxc>
that's a great feature. Thank you
<srhb>
No kidding! Really great work :D
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<thoughtpolice>
I'm unreasonably happy about it. We're going to move our machines at work over to Nix 2 at work soon with the new installer.
<srhb>
gchristensen: Another highlight in case you don't see the praise on grahamc :P
<treets>
: Maybe I'll ne (not) warned before if I really want to delete it? Doesn't matter. Just rebooting
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<treets>
MichaelRakin: How I can see the builds? Are they sorted like in the grub menu?
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<treets>
man nix-store says nothing about this.
<clever>
treets: `nix-store --query --roots /nix/store/foo` will tell you if somebody can be deleted or not
<pxc>
thoughtpolice: that's exactly the use case it makes exciting! Building multi-user support into the Nix installer greatly simplifies installing it in a lot of corporate environments
<clever>
if it has no roots, it can be deleted
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<pxc>
*that makes it exciting
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @cawilliamson opened pull request #39574 → #39225 - added fix for zfs dracut support → https://git.io/vpls2
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<pxc>
srhb: haha I was thinking about using the other handle too. Glad you got me covered :-)
<treets>
clever: this does not help me. I have 7K+ files as 'foo'
<treets>
In the grub menu I have ~ 10 entries.
<clever>
treets: why do you want to delete some things?
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<treets>
clever: Because I did'nt knew that nixos is so hungry and I'm actually running out of space and probably need to stop the kernel building... But I like o remove some builds which I do not need instead.
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<clever>
treets: `nix-collect-garbage --max-freed 1g` will delete a random 1gig worth of un-needed things
<treets>
random??!! No, this is not the option. Maybe this random build is the one which is very good. I don't know.
<clever>
it will only be things that lack GC roots
<treets>
On the other had: It is like playing roulette :=)
<clever>
so anything actively in-use cant be deleted
<clever>
including anything in the grub menu, those cant be deleted
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed to release-18.03 « check-meta.nix: specify meta.timeout (used by Hydra) »: https://git.io/vplGG
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<treets>
And how I can delete specific build? Can I remove files from my HDD and from grub manually and rebuild the store database?
<clever>
no
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<treets>
This must be possible to delet build #3, #5 and #10?
<clever>
if you want to remove osmething, you have to use nix-store --delete
<treets>
to delete
<treets>
clever: But MichaelR said that this only affects the profile store and not the builds.
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<treets>
itself.
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<clever>
the builds live in /nix/store, and nix-store --delete deletes them from there
<treets>
Start at the beginning: How can I vies the build which I have in the grub menu in my terminal?
<treets>
view not vies, sorry
<clever>
ls -l /nix/var/nix/profiles/
<clever>
all of the ones starting with system
<clever>
you can also use: nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/system --list-generations
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<treets>
clever: This is a good tip! Can this be added to the manual?
<adamt>
treets: One tip I would give myself if I ever forgot everything about Nix/NixOS: Just glance over the man pages for all nix* tools, there's so much good info in many of them. :-)
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<treets>
adamt: I've only had a look at the manual and did not found the answer.
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<treets>
What do you mean with nix* tools?
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<treets>
clever: Can I also see which programs are installed in each build?
<clever>
treets: run an ls on the sw/bin directory of those system links
<adamt>
treets: I just meant that if you're curious, try peeking at the various command line tools' manpages that nix and nixos comes with, it's a good learning experience
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #39576 → python3: add C++ compiler support for distutils → https://git.io/vplc1
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<treets>
clever: nix-store --delete system-3-link would delete nothing. How I find the name for the [DELETE ME]?
<treets>
clever: I tried to nix-store --delete /nix/store/61q3125... and nix-store --delete /nix/store/f47i78... - but those two builds are marked as active and cannot be deleted.
<tomberek>
we can fix nix-gitignore to not use "undefined"/inconsistent regex behavior. But this seems to imply different behavior of Nix between OSs. How far upstream should a fix go?
<clever>
treets: you need to first run `nix-store --query --roots` on those, to see why they are still active
<clever>
tomberek: builtins.fetchgit will just run the real `git ls-something` and do what git normally does to filter it
<treets>
nix-store --query --roots is empty!!
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<treets>
its really too late.
<clever>
treets: when given the same path?
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<treets>
One gives me only /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-2-link. But this can not be deleted because it is marked as active. But your command gives me only /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-2-link.
<clever>
GC roots cant be removed with --delete
<clever>
for that, you need nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/system --delete-generations 2
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<treets>
what does this command do?
<clever>
it deletes the 2nd generation of the system profile
<treets>
mmh, how many generations are able and which generation is actually runing?
<treets>
It is like philosophy :)
<clever>
ls -l /run/current-system points to the storepath that is currently running
<clever>
and the symlinks in /nix/var/nix/profiles/ tell you what storepath each generation is
<treets>
ls -l /run/current-system is not system-2-link which cannot be deleted.
<treets>
because it is market as active
<clever>
you need to use `nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/system --delete-generations 2` to make system-2-link not active
<tomberek>
clever: yep, we can do that, but there's still an underlying problem of difference Nix behavior depending on OS.
<treets>
`nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/system --delete-generations 4` would than delete generation 4, right?
<treets>
`note: currently hard linking saves 1858.32 MiB 1 store paths deleted, 0.04 MiB freed` This was probably the wrong `generation` to get more space.
<treets>
The path is not there anymore as you said.
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<clever>
just run `nix-collect-garbage --max-freed 1g` and you should be good
<treets>
That means I have deleted the symlink to a build. But the files are still there and I cannot delete them anymore?
<clever>
you also deleted the build itself
<clever>
but not what it depended on
<treets>
I made a complete nix-collect-garbage before. There is nothing more to delete.
<clever>
and there is basically no way to tell the difference between what it depended on, and all the other unused paths
<treets>
That's why I like to delete a specific build.
<clever>
deleting the 2nd generation made more garbage
<clever>
so now a collect-garbage will delete more things
<treets>
:laughing:
<clever>
thats why ive been saying to run nix-collect-garbage
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<treets>
Now I understand what the command will do in the backend , thank you.
<treets>
nix-collect-garbage `note: currently hard linking saves 1777.59 MiB 146 store paths deleted, 435.51 MiB freed` :)
<treets>
I need to write the steps down to not forget them
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<Myrl-saki>
I have performed a --check
<Myrl-saki>
How do I "repair" it?
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<Myrl-saki>
error: derivation '/nix/store/fj6vqniy1c641v2is3hjrj2q1rall0j3-ncurses-6.0-20171125-abi5-compat.drv' may not be deterministic: output '/nix/store/rmn12x69clsjqziz855a5almbf3g8n09-ncurses-6.0-20171125-abi5-compat-man' differs
<Myrl-saki>
--check seems undocumented.
<Myrl-saki>
--repair doesn't perform a rebuild.
<clever>
Myrl-saki: you want --repair-path
<Myrl-saki>
clever: Using nix-store?
<clever>
yeah
<Myrl-saki>
error: you don't have sufficient rights to use this command
<clever>
i think you can use proot to map the same /home/user/whatever to /nix
<clever>
and then nix-store --delete
<Myrl-saki>
Oh right, I think I can use the mount bind thing.
<Myrl-saki>
clever: In hindsight, I think I should have just asked for root access.
<clever>
:P
<Myrl-saki>
clever: Why can't the install be run from root?
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<clever>
its not designed to have root, and wants to chown /nix to your user
<clever>
if you have +w to /nix, it never even needs root
<Myrl-saki>
clever: For a multi-user install without nix-daemon, I'd go with `chgrp nix /nix; chown g+x /nix`?
<Myrl-saki>
Err
<Myrl-saki>
chmod
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<clever>
you need nix-daemon to do a multi-user install
<clever>
because you cant easily give every user write access
<Myrl-saki>
clever: How about the group method I talked about?
<clever>
that wont inherit to the directories that the nix tools create inside /nix
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #39580 → Implement standardized "use flags" for Nixpkgs → https://git.io/vpl4u
<Myrl-saki>
clever: Ugh, true.
<clever>
nix-daemon manages running everything as a single user to solve the problems
<clever>
and also enforces the rules so 1 user cant cheat and exploit another
<Myrl-saki>
clever: I'm the only Nix user in our team, and I implemented a CI which uses Nix. How should I go with that?
<Myrl-saki>
clever: We have a user specifically for the CI.
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<Myrl-saki>
clever: So I want to use my user, to build stuff for my RasPi, but I also want the CI user to be able to build stuff.
<clever>
id just run nix-daemon as root
<Myrl-saki>
clever: But the install is run from my user?
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<clever>
you can upgrade a single-user to a multi-user after installing
<Myrl-saki>
Okay.
<Myrl-saki>
Thanks.
<Myrl-saki>
I just asked for root access
<Myrl-saki>
I'll ping back once I have it.
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<colemickens>
If I switch to nixos-unstable-small and try to build 'azure-image', it hangs on `starting stage 2 (/nix/store/lp6sd4r785qhy77pxvfbyvfhk0cp5739-vm-run-stage2)`
<colemickens>
can anyone recommend how I might debug this/
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<helloworlddevelo>
Hey guys! Could you tell me how I can look up the log after a failed nix expression build?