gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos to: NixOS 18.03 and Nix 2.0 are released! || Share the output of nix-shell -p nix-info --run nix-info to help us help you. || https://nixos.org || Latest NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html || Latest Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html || Logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos/ || #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-chat
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<ottidmes> redfish64: here its being reported as being 10 days old: https://howoldis.herokuapp.com/ and this issue seems relevant: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/27502, so from what I gather, nixos-unstable is just more error prone at getting stuck, and nixos-18.03 is just out, and every stable release they aim for an as low failure count as possible, so at those turning points I think your actually better of at
<ottidmes> the stable branch, but as time progresses nixos-unstable will be the better choice again if you like bleeding edge versions
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<redfish64> thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @layus opened pull request #38924 → git: add install checks → https://git.io/vxjFH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jwiegley pushed to master « Fix a typo: types.openSignifiantByte -> types.openSignificantByte »: https://git.io/vxjNO
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<rizary> hi, do we still need docker if we want to build microservice using nixos?
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<elvishjerricco> rizary: I avoid docker like the plague
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<rizary> yep i would like too, but now the client wants microservice style, so I am considering the best possible way. Reading some article that says must be in docker make me wonder, "is it necessary?"
<elvishjerricco> What does docker have to do with micro services? Seems orthogonal
<elvishjerricco> Also, be careful. Micro services are only necessary in very specific circumstance, and add massive maintenance burden
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<jperras> well that was fun
<gchristensen> Lol they finally changed their spam to not match my trivial ban bot rules
<jperras> irc bots: where the effort vs. reward graph really doesn't tilt in anyone's favour
<ashkitten> i don't get why anyone even tries lol
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<rizary> elvishjerricco: i see
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<mkaito> I can't even read that shit, what are they trying to accomplish
<ThatOtherGuy> Likely add revenue from whatever link they are trying to get you to click.
<gchristensen> I accidently published on GitHub the source to the ban bot which targets their spam, and they found it. I'm pretty sure they now target us specifically
<ThatOtherGuy> How did you accidently publish to github? :<
<kini> by "us" do you mean #nixos? Because I'm seeing the same spam on various freenode channels
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<gchristensen> I am as transparent as possible, and it was a mistake
* TimePath clicks one thing to ignore all future message and purge the spam from the backlog
<TimePath> spam heuristic: high ratio of names:other words
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<achambe> It must gain them something more than what they spend doing it
<achambe> but many it seems pointless
<achambe> many*
<achambe> man**
<zybell_> rizary:Docker style with microservices:On nix thats called /nix/store. Think about it!
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<alunduil> Anyone seen an issue with cabal2nix erroring due to a missing nix-prefetch-zip command?
<ThatOtherGuy> achambe, it's not hard to write an IRC bot. I'm assuming it doesn't take them much effort at all and so the cost:profit? ratio is small but there.
<achambe> zybell_: nix can still help build docker images, and nix can be used to host kubernetes
<achambe> so they are different things
<zybell_> Yeah but microservices are aimed to reproducibility,isolation,immutability. On other linux you use docker for that.
<zybell_> Its exactly the other way around as you thought.I warned you fair;-)
<clever> zybell_: nix gives you reproducibility and immutability, systemd can easily add the isolation
<achambe> docker doesn't help you make reproduceable builds, it helps you save the build artifact and use it again
<achambe> sort of different
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<achambe> so yeah, nix does it better
<zybell_> reproducibility in deployment
<zybell_> the isolation of different storepathes is enough for most microservices.
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<Ralith> docker mostly seems like an ugly hack to work around a problem nix doesn't have
<zybell_> Thats the spirit!!
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<achambe> docker also decouples the infrastructure from the code, which in large orgs lets there be two teams
<achambe> well, kubernetes or w.e.
<achambe> Nix doesn't help there
<achambe> but nix could be used by both teams
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<colonel_john_by> what's the 'right' way of installing packages on nixos? declaratively modifying configuration.nix and nixos-rebuild or using nix-env?
<clever> colonel_john_by: mostly user preference
<clever> colonel_john_by: ive had issues with environment.systemPackages stuff blocking a minor OS config change, because package xyz doesnt build today
<clever> but i also get anoyed by nix-env stuff not being updated automatically
<clever> so its a tricky choice
<colonel_john_by> gotcha
<colonel_john_by> i did run into some trouble install termite and newsboat.
<colonel_john_by> termite wouldn't work and newsboat seems not to be in the repos, despite what the websites says.
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<dtz> that's strange, newsboat is there in 18.03 .. and I use termite every day! So at least there's hope for those working for you yet :)
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/392874b9b14 (from 3 days ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/2ad7d5140c6 (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<rizary> noted, thanks about the docker things.
<rizary> so anyone running nixos on windows hyper-v? how to change xserver resolution? trying to `services.xserver.resolutions = { x = 1680; y = 1050; };` but got error "is not a list of attribute set"
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<rizary> ah nvm
<rizary> :)
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<rizary> but still nothing happened
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 8 commits to netbsd: https://git.io/vxjpj
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<unlmtd> can I use a configuration.nix file to determine which paths to use with `nix-copy-closure` or its 2.0 equivalent?
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<boomshroom> unlmtd: I'm pretty sure you'd have to build it first. You can build a nixos system without installing it, after which point you can copy the resulting store path.
<unlmtd> its built, but I have a subset of my system Id like to copy
<boomshroom> unlmtd: So you just want to copy part of it but not the whole system?
<unlmtd> hah I see what you mean now
<unlmtd> yea so build that config then use than environment path
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<unlmtd> I was looking for a less roundabout way. right now I was just copying everything then garbage collecting on the other machine
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38921 → dosage: Fix tests → https://git.io/vxj68
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpeeo
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<{^_^}> → d81f3ecb by @bendlas: xen-4.8: fix qemu-xen build error in memfd.c
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38917 → xen-4.8: fix qemu-xen build error in memfd.c → https://git.io/vxj2m
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38912 → luaPackages.mpack: fix hash → https://git.io/vxjBo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpee5
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<MichaelRaskin> ottidmes: well, it is possible that all the extra packages you want are upstreamable, so you could find a few committers with similar tastes to merge your package additions/updates until you get commit rights…
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed commit from @apeyroux to master « c14: 2017-05-15 -> 0.3 (#38905) »: https://git.io/vpeve
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38905 → c14: 2017-05-15 -> 0.3 → https://git.io/vxhji
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38910 → masterpdfeditor: 4.3.82 -> 4.3.89 → https://git.io/vxjOt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpevT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38797 → m4rie: init at 20150908 → https://git.io/vxAkR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpevc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @asppsa opened pull request #38927 → pure: 0.66 -> 0.68 → https://git.io/vpev8
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<fusion809> Hi, I've found something odd. My ~/XTerm file doesn't seem to be used to configure xterm on NixOS, on other distros this exact XTerm file works fine
<fusion809> Any ideas what I need to do to get it loaded?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38904 → sit: 0.2.1 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/vxhh9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpevH
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<fusion809> Any idea what I need to provide the status_command for i3? i3 and i3status is installed, yet status_command isn't in my PATH.
<day|flip> for xterm. you can load it through ~/.Xresources
<boomshroom> fusion809: If i3status is installed, then it should be visible to i3. Can you invoke i3status from the command line?
<day|flip> to load ~/.Xresources
<day|flip> .Xresources
<day|flip> xrdb ~/.Xresources
<fusion809> day|flip: Thanks, xterm is now working
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<fusion809> boomshroom: i3status works from the command-line, it's status_command that doesn't seem to be working.
<Akii> nix-shell -p nix-info --run "nix-info -m"
<Akii> zsh: command not found: nix-shell
<Akii> yeah
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<boomshroom> fusion809: Try just replacing status_command with i3status in your i3 config.
<Akii> just "finished" the installation of nix on macos
<sphalerite> Akii: is this in the same terminal you installed nix from?
<Akii> no, new one
<fusion809> boomshroom: thanks, unfortunately i3status doesn't seem to substitute for status_command
<Akii> I've oh-my-zsh installed, maybe that is confusing the script
<fusion809> boomshroom: as I get "You have an error in your i3 config file!" and I look at the errors and they originate from the i3status line
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<boomshroom> Akii: The manual says that it creates ~/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh to be sourced. Try making zsh run that when you open a new shell.
<fusion809> Ah seems like it's because while I installed i3pystatus earlier it's gone since I rebuild my config
<Akii> .nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh: No such file or directory
<Akii> the symlink points to an empty directory
<Akii> let me check the profile of root
<boomshroom> Akii: what's in /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/$USER/?
<Akii> nothin
<Akii> g
<fusion809> boomshroom: I'm trying to install the Python modules I need (I need the latest git release of i3pystatus, can't use that in the Nix repos) using pip3 but I keep getting setuptools missing error. I ran `nix-env -i python3.6-setuptools` (I'm using python3.6-pip from Nix repos as my pip) and I'm still getting these errors. Any ideas why?
<boomshroom> Akii: Find a nix binary in the store (ls -d /nix/store/*-nix-*/) And load a channel with nix-channel followed by nix-env -i nix. That should get things working.
<boomshroom> fusion809: Now we're moving from i3 to python and I know nothing about python. Sorry.
<fusion809> Ah, thanks. Hopefully someone else does.
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<fusion809> If someone sees this convo and wants to reply please ping me as I won't be watching this channel as much anymore
<boomshroom> fusion809: All I can give you is https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#python
<etu[m]> I'm having issues setting up wifi on my raspberry pi 3 on nixos. I've added the block to get the firmware so I can see the wifi-card. But I don't have any luck connecting to my wifi: https://github.com/etu/nixconfig/blob/master/hosts/rpi-ha/configuration.nix#L27-L43
<etu[m]> It just doesn't connect
<boomshroom> Anyways, it's getting late, so I'll be heading to bed soon. Goodnight!
<Akii> boomshroom welp: error: cannot connect to daemon at '/nix/var/nix/daemon-socket/socket': No such file or directory
<boomshroom> Akii: Follow the instructions in https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#ssec-multi-user to set up the nix daemon. That should fix the problem.
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<Akii> the install script already created idk 30 users so I'll just skip that step
<boomshroom> Akii: Alternatively, you can try single user mode, but it can cause complications later down the line.
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<boomshroom> Akii: In that case, running the daemon should be all that's left.
<boomshroom> Goodnight!
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<Akii> indeed, things are happening now :o
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38898 → gutenprint: 5.2.13 -> 5.2.14 → https://git.io/vxhKx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpef2
<{^_^}> → f5c30005 by R. RyanTM: gutenprint: 5.2.13 -> 5.2.14
<{^_^}> → 8d0791c7 by @Mic92: Merge pull request #38898 from r-ryantm/auto-update/gutenprint
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<Akii> okay, so after that stuff was in my profile and then I had to manually source the nix.sh
<LnL> Akii: what platform?
<Akii> macos
<Akii> still have to somehow get that daemon to start
<LnL> will be fixed with the next release
<LnL> you might have to unload/load the service file
<Akii> thanks!
<Akii> that actually worked, how weird
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<LnL> keepalive is missing so launchd starts the service but never looks at it afterwards :/
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<Akii> so, now the fun can start. Got a server running nixos and nix with nixops installed locally. What could possibly go wrong now :)
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<juhe> Hi, the libreoffice-still got a wrapper to include some java / dbus /... environment. This causes that "libreoffice-still = super.libreoffice-still.override { langs = [...]; };" in overlay doesn't work anymore (wrapper.nix:1:1 called with unexpected argument ‘langs’). What is the proper way of overriding libreoffice-still now?
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<MichaelRaskin> juhe: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/95a819c0026a7a3c0dd2099e1c53fea95430c505 — feel free to offer a good interface for that in the comments or to ping me (7c6f434c) in a PR about that.
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<pjan> I'm running nixos, but for some reason I can't run nix-shell without sudo
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<sphalerite> pjan: what does it say? Which version are you running?
<sphalerite> pjan: I suspect you've got nix 1.11.x with the system nix being 2.0, so you don't have NIX_REMOTE set and it's trying to access the store directly. Does NIX_REMOTE=daemon nix-shell … work?
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<pjan> sphalerite: that is very possible. How can that be addressed more fundamentally (rather than setting an environment variable)?
<sphalerite> pjan: making sure you're using the right nix version in both places
<sphalerite> compare `/run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-env --version` and `nix-env --version`. If they're different, check `which nix-env` to see where the wrong version is coming from
<sphalerite> if it's in your user profile, nix-env --uninstall nix
<sphalerite> if it's in the system profile (/nix/var/nix/profiles/default), sudo nix-env --uninstall nix
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<pjan> ok, this seems a very good pointer to check. As a side note: is it normal that I need to sudo the nixos-rebuild as well? I never needed to do this on nix-darwin, and I set it up in a similar way (my username being in the list of privileged nix users)
<juhe> MichaelRaskin: The last suggestion you gave to wizeman makes perfect sense. I do not think extra interface function is needed - not sure how to make such function generic enough without bloating the code unnecessarily. The issue I have had was coming from my misunderstanding of your change in the code structure and my poor grasp of nix language... Still plenty to learn :). Thanks!
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<MichaelRaskin> If you have an overlay, wizeman's reply is even more immediately applicable.
<juhe> yes
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<MichaelRaskin> I dunno, maybe it is a good idea to make the wrapper auto-apply its own langs parameter to the wrapped libreoffice even if it is More Magic.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38916 → QGIS and GRASS fixes → https://git.io/vxjgd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/vpeJ7
<{^_^}> → b65181d7 by @mpickering: grass: Fix Can't load GDAL library errors on darwin
<{^_^}> → a3de2258 by @mpickering: grass: Symlink include/ as well as bin/
<{^_^}> → a134b935 by @mpickering: QGIS: Allow plugins to find GDAL tools by looking on PATH
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<juhe> It might be nice, though weak nix-ers, like me, will have hard time understanding it :-D.
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<juhe> So from this point of view it is questionable whether to do it.
<MichaelRaskin> If it were not LibreOffice (also: not Chromium, please), putting wrapper inside the main derivation would make sense, but I want to be able to fix further minor problems easily…
* juhe nods
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<Akii> How do I go about reading what's wrong in things like these: http://lpaste.net/364783 ? Trying to deploy the trivial example with nixops.
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<ottidmes> Akii: It looks like that log indeed is useless in figuring out what went wrong, so if you paste your config, maybe I or others could take a look and figure out what went wrong.
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<LnL> pjan: yeah, darwin-rebuild itself uses sudo where neccecary
<LnL> Akii: that looks like you it's trying to build the linux kernel for darwin
<Akii> no?
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<Akii> I think I completely misunderstood what nixops is or does
<Akii> nixops deploy -d vserver
<LnL> did you specify what system the target is?
<Akii> I thought I could set up a remote NixOS then use nixops to deploy services and configuration from my local machine
<Akii> all I can do is read that little bit of manual to kinda figure out how any of this works
<Akii> so frustrating
<LnL> I think by default it will use builtins.currentSystem but if your local system is different that will have weird results
<LnL> that is possible
<Akii> that's all I have
<LnL> 1. you need to set nixpkgs.system = "x86_64-linux"; in your deployment
<LnL> 2. you'll need some way for your local machine to build stuff for that system
<Akii> I thought all that was required is to copy over config and run nixos-rebuild
<LnL> nixops builds everything on the local host and pushes it to the machines
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<LnL> a simple alternative is rsync nixos-configuration.nix foo:/etc/nixos/configuration.nix && ssh foo -- sudo nixos-rebuild switch
<Akii> yeah
<LnL> for a production deployment you generally don't want to build stuff on the live host
<musicmatze[m]> I'm currently trying to install nixos from an existing nixos installation and am getting a "no such file or directory" error during `nixos-install`... should I report this in nixpkgs?
<day|flip> system.stateVersion = "18.03"; ? and update like normal?
<tilpner> day|flip - What do you want to do? You should never touch stateVersion without reinstalling, in general
<tilpner> LnL - Why wouldn't x86_64 darwin be able to build linux?
<tilpner> musicmatze[m] - Does it tell anything else? --show-trace
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<LnL> system = "x86_64-linux" uses a x86_64-linux compiler, etc. you can't run that natively on darwin
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<LnL> cross compiling would work in theory, but that's considered to be a different system in nix
<musicmatze[m]> tilpner: yes, but the ouptput is too long for pasting in IRC IMO
<musicmatze[m]> --show-trace does not result in any more output.
<tilpner> musicmatze[m] - Of course, but that's what pastebins are for :)
<musicmatze[m]> I guess I'll oen an issue :-)
<day|flip> I figure if you change system.stateVersion. it should update to the new repo channel
<musicmatze[m]> tilpner: here you go: https://pastebin.com/SKjedZud
<tilpner> day|flip - No, that will not happen. stateVersion does not "state the version of your NixOS channel", it's the version your state has
<day|flip> ahh
<tilpner> day|flip - If you've installed recently there should be a big comment above it. Changing this option will forfeit any guarantees NixOS gives wrt. safe rollbacks
<LnL> day|flip: no, don't change stateVersion :/
<day|flip> ok. thanks. I did not know that
<day|flip> still so much I don't know yet. nixos is a fun montain to clim
<Yarny> Hi, I just observed nixos-18.03 wandering backwards in time ... is that possible? https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-18.03 currently forwards to https://d3g5gsiof5omrk.cloudfront.net/nixos/18.03/nixos-18.03.131807.489a14add9a, that is 131807. But yesterday, nix-channel --update and nixos-rebuild produced a derivation called hashhashhash-nixos-system-antec-18.03.131954.2569e482904.
<jluttine> postfix configuration on nixos doesn't support letsencrypt automatic certificates similarly as nginx does?
<Yarny> ...and an hour ago, these commands actually tried to build nixos-system-antec-18.03pre131740.09bca91e3b5 .
<tilpner> musicmatze[m] - You mounted your ESP to /mnt/boot?
<tilpner> Or, some ESP
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<jluttine> that is, postfix could have enableACME etc similarly as nginx
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<MichaelRaskin> musicmatze: I think the problem is that you do not have efivars pseudo-fs mounted
<tilpner> jluttine - You can try plugging it together with security.acme.certs
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<musicmatze[m]> tilpner: Yes, the /dev/sda1 is a ESP boot partition with 1GB
<musicmatze[m]> MichaelRaskin: okay... how to check?
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<Akii> LnL with all that hassle and even using docker you might as well just set up a VM for that
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<lejonet> Hmm, I've forgotten, to override the version of a package, I need to do it with overrideAttrs, it can't be done with "just" override, right?
<tilpner> lejonet - That depends on the package in question. .override can work if the package was written to allow for it, but .overrideAttrs will always work
<lejonet> tilpner: ah I see, well, I doubt systemd was written to allow for it (I need to ensure that I don't get 237, because 237 wreak havoc on my system with a stupid bug that is fixed in 238)
<MichaelRaskin> musicmatze: actually, maybe you don't even need that step…
<tilpner> lejonet - Correct, systemd doesn't allow that. There's a problem though: postFixup uses the version
<lejonet> tilpner: crap, so its possible that overriding it causes problems then?
<tilpner> lejonet - Yes, if you're not careful
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<tilpner> You can postFixup = builtins.replaceStrings ["libsystemd-shared-237"] ["libsystemd-shared-238"] old.postFixup;
<tilpner> It's not pretty, and quite brittle
<lejonet> tilpner: what do I need to take care with? Because honestly, hosing my system because I want to change something because both nixos-unstable and nixos-18.03 pulls in 237 and crashes shit
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<lejonet> is not fun
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<tilpner> lejonet - master has 238. You *could* overlay masters systemd onto your system, but I don't know what'll happen
<lejonet> (and what is even more fun is that the setup nixos uses shouldn't be able to hit the bug, because the bug is related to non-root owned files in /run having root-owned pidfiles put in them, that creates a potential security hole)
<lejonet> non-root owned directories*
<lejonet> tilpner: or just run everything from master, I've done that before so if that fixes my problem, I'm all game with that :P
<tilpner> I would try overlaying masters systemd before switching my entire systemd to master, but that's your tradeoff to make
<tilpner> master might even be okay on a server
<musicmatze[m]> MichaelRaskin: what do you mean?
<tilpner> *my entire system to master
<lejonet> Well this is a desktop, so I'll try to overlay it first, gotta learn how to do overlays anyway :P
<MichaelRaskin> musicmatze: well, bootx64.efi is the default loader anyway
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<tilpner> lejonet - Just make sure to keep previous generations to boot if something goes wrong. Either way is risky
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38790 → pythonPackages.fpylll: init at 0.3.0dev → https://git.io/vxNNh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/vpeTc
<{^_^}> → bca79a97 by Timo Kaufmann: fplll: 5.0.2 -> 5.2.0
<{^_^}> → 633f6944 by Timo Kaufmann: pythonPackages.fpylll: init at 0.3.0dev
<{^_^}> → 2a093423 by @dotlambda: Merge pull request #38790 from timokau/fpylll-init
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<lejonet> tilpner: yeah, I have one generation, that I'm running now, that works like a charm, I'm sure as heck not going to GC it :P
<lejonet> what is the command to tell it to automatically boot into this generation? nixos-rebuild boot? (I have 3 non-functional generations after this one, so its annoying to have to poke in the bootloader everytime)
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<tilpner> lejonet - Here's your overlay: tx0.co/o
<tilpner> But I don't know enough about systemd to tell if it can be upgraded in isolation like that
<lejonet> tilpner: only one way to find out then :) iirc its fairly self-contained due to its monolithic-ishness
<lejonet> thx for snippet
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji opened pull request #38930 → qemu: add option to build with gtk support → https://git.io/vpeTS
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<romildo> Maybe someone could merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/38032 [deepin: use libsForQt5 in meta package]
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda opened pull request #38931 → home-assistant: 0.66.1 -> 0.67.0 → https://git.io/vpekC
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<cinimod> I am trying to use `stan` as packaged by nix
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<cinimod> It tries to use directories within the installation to create files
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<cinimod> nix quite rightly says no
<cinimod> I suspect the correct thing to do is to change how stan behaves but I suspect this will be hard work convincing people
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<cinimod> Perhaps there is some way of getting nix to actually create these files in a temporary folder?
<cinimod> I may try this next week
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to master « gnome3: 3.28.0 → 3.28.1 »: https://git.io/vpeI0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #38923 → gnome3: 3.28.0 → 3.28.1 → https://git.io/vxjDW
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<ryantm> cinimod: It's a hack, but you can get around this kind of problem sometimes by making your own "install" directory that sym links to the files in the nix store installation directory.
<monokrome> hmm... When attempting to build a custom ISO, I see to be getting the issue "nixosLabel" is missing with this nix expression:
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<tilpner> Add something like tx0.co/p to your config
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-18.03 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/1c22feb9b0a (from 15 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-18.03)
<monokrome> That's the error
<monokrome> tilpner: Thanks! I'll try that
<monokrome> My understanding from reading the iso-image.nix is that it *should* be automatically set though
<monokrome> I'm worried that the build is using my host system's configuration somehow?
<tilpner> Hmm, I think I suggested the wrong thing
<monokrome> kinda weird
<monokrome> but if I set isoImage to anything
<monokrome> it runs w/out any errors
<monokrome> but doesn't generate a file
<tilpner> The iso name might have changed. Did you check for that?
<monokrome> guessing because it should have worked wout that and just skipped all the god stuff?
<monokrome> tilpner: isoName doesn't seem to be used anywhere in the repo
<monokrome> er, I take that back - sorry
<monokrome> tilpner: It may have been changed, but I don't think that I reference it directly anywhere
<monokrome> Am I mistaken?
<cinimod> ryantm: thanks
<tilpner> monokrome - Do a clean build, then run tree on result. Does that show anything?
<monokrome> tilpner: result doesn't exist
<tilpner> Is there any output?
<monokrome> when I hardcode isoImage?
<monokrome> er, no
<monokrome> no output
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<monokrome> make just echoes the command I ran
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @moretea opened pull request #38934 → spotify: 1.0.72.117 -> 1.0.77.338 → https://git.io/vpetu
<tilpner> I just tested it without your Makefile, can't reproduce
<elvishjerricco> Is there a way (Nix-1 compatible) to test whether a binary cache is configured?
<tilpner> nix-build --no-out-link '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -I nixpkgs=$PWD/nixpkgs -I nixos-config=$PWD/iso.nix -A config.system.build.isoImage
<monokrome> what command did you run?
<monokrome> and is your host system running nix?
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<tilpner> What do you mean, of course it is
<tilpner> How could I use nix-build if I didn't have Nix installed?
<monokrome> tilpner: I mean what I asked. Just checking any variable :o
<monokrome> Oh, sorry
<monokrome> I meant NixOS
<tilpner> Yes, I'm on NixOS, but that doesn't change anything
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<monokrome> ah, cool :) Good to know
<tilpner> It builds to an ISO even without adding the isoImage stuff
<LnL> yeah that should work everywhere
<monokrome> tilpner: Are you on the 18.03 branch?
<LnL> the only difference is that -I nixos-config=... is required if you're not on nixos
<monokrome> or, I should say the 18.03 ref
<tilpner> monokrome - Shouldn't matter, your Makefile cloned nixpkgs
<monokrome> tilpner: It clones it as 18.03
<tilpner> Exactly
<monokrome> oooh got it
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<tilpner> Although git status says "Not currently on any branch"
<tilpner> Huh
<monokrome> because it's a shallow clone
<tilpner> Ah, right. I only have a deep clone I work with. I never navigate to all my shallow clones
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<monokrome> Seems with te same command you ran, I get called without required argument 'closureInfo'""
<monokrome> in /home/polar/Projects/monokrome/nixos/nixpkgs/nixos/lib/make-iso9660-image.nix
<tilpner> Oh, and I don't think you want to use 18.03 as the branch name
<monokrome> Oh?
<monokrome> That's what the docs say
<tilpner> That's the tag for the 18.03 release, not actually where the nixos-18.03 channel is
<monokrome> and channel.nix won't use 18.03 channel in that branch?
<tilpner> I would use nixos-18.03 from github.com/nixos/nixpkgs-channels
<monokrome> now this is failing? assert builtins.langVersion >= 5;
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<monokrome> w/ your command
<tilpner> Are you on Nix 1.*?
<monokrome> 17.09.3205 (Hummiingbird)
<tilpner> That's the NixOS version, not the Nix version
<monokrome> oh hmm
<monokrome> How can I check my Nix version?
<monokrome> I don't know what comes w hummingbid
<tilpner> You're probably on 1.* if you don't know you changed it
<tilpner> (nix-daemon --version)
<monokrome> 1.11.16
<disasm> got a prometheus alert for first time in a long while that services failed to start and couldn't reach some hosts not in my LAN. Turns out power went out an hour ago and the two hosts needed `nixops deploy` ran to get their deploy keys. Gotta love it when monitoring tells you stuff you need to know :)
<tilpner> Option 1: Upgrade your Nix to 2.0
<tilpner> Option 2: Use older nixpkgs, e.g. nixos-17.09
<monokrome> ey
<monokrome> 17.09 works
<tilpner> To do 1, either upgrade your system to at-least nixos-18.03, or set nix.package = pkgs.nixStable2;
<monokrome> Is updating risky / potentially unstable?
<monokrome> I installed this NixOS system yesterday
<tilpner> Huh
<tilpner> Why did you install 17.09 instead of 18.03?
<monokrome> Also downloaded the ISO
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<monokrome> I used the links on https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html
<monokrome> which is weird, because they seem to be 18 now?
* monokrome shrugs
<disasm> monokrome: NixOS is most likely the most stable update you've ever done in your life. If it doesn't work, you just rollback :)
<tilpner> Yeah, that is weird
<monokrome> yeah
<monokrome> Sounds like I should figure out how to update
<tilpner> monokrome - Just replace root's channels, from nixos-17.09 to nixos-18.03
<monokrome> Do I just change stateVersion and go?
<tilpner> No!
<monokrome> O_o
<tilpner> stateVersion is "your state has this version", not "please state the version of NixOS you want to use"
<monokrome> ah
<tilpner> If you change it, you may not be able to rollbac safely
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<tilpner> Never change that option without a full reinstall
<monokrome> :)
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<MichaelRaskin> It is basically «which year's defaults you use for database placement»
<joepie91> I feel like maybe stateVersion should be renamed to something that more clearly describes you shouldn't change it, like originalStateVersion or so
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<joepie91> because this seems to be a recurring problem
<tilpner> joepie91 - 18.03 has a big comment above it, it should be fine
<monokrome> I asked because it clearly says not to touch it :)
<tilpner> These are just the remaining pre-18.03 people upgrading
<MichaelRaskin> And then it is not as much stateVersion as «defaultVersion»
<tilpner> Oh
<MichaelRaskin> Dunno how to say it
<monokrome> Doesn't seem like I've specifically configured channels in my configuration.nix though?
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<monokrome> Is that not in there by default?
<disasm> you can change stateVersion, but you have to read through ALL the release notes and find out all the things that were changed between states. For example, I changed my stateVersion between 17.03 and 17.09 I think it was because I wanted the different postgresql layout per version that was introduced. but other than things like that, you shouldn't touch it.
<monokrome> Yeah, I have no intention of changing stateVersion
<tilpner> monokrome - Unfortunately you can't configure channel via your nixos-config by default, so you'll have to use nix-channel from the CLI (as root)
<monokrome> I'm trying to understand how to move to 18.03 channels
<monokrome> ooooh
<monokrome> wow
<monokrome> how do you reinstall once you add channels?
<tilpner> You just nixos-rebuild switch as usual
<disasm> but you have to use `nixos` as the label for nixos-rebuild switch to use it.
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<tilpner> disasm - It works with <nixpkgs> too
<monokrome> hmm
<monokrome> Now it just says the "search path enity" does not exist
<tilpner> Running what command? We need more context :)
<monokrome> Forgot to run update :)
<elvishjerricco> joepie91: Agreed. Took me a while to take the time to lookup what stateVersion does. And by that point I'd already changed it :P
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<monokrome> hmm
<monokrome> now a bunch of packages are marked broken
<monokrome> I guess it worked?
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<tilpner> I suggest a reboot after big updates like that
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<monokrome> I'm guessing I have to leave the 17.03 `nixos` in the channels and add 18.03 as `nixpkgs`?
<monokrome> ya, will do
<monokrome> thanks for helping me btw :)
<tilpner> Your old Nix 1.* daemon is still running, and that will interfere with evaluation of your newer nixpkgs
<monokrome> :o
<tilpner> Sorry, that was wrong. I confused that with people installing Nix2 via nix-env
<monokrome> Oh, ok - no worries
<tilpner> After a proper update, old services will of course be restarted properly
<monokrome> I still reboot after any changes to make sure I don't need to rollback
<disasm> always good to reboot after any kernel or systemd updates anyways
<monokrome> :)
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<sphalerite> disasm: for systemd there's actually systemctl reexec-daemon
<Dezgeg> some parts of it don't get restarted until reboot, however
<sphalerite> daemon-reexec*
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<seequ__> nixos-install installed to /nix/store, not /mnt/nix/store
<seequ__> ._.
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<monokrome> well
<monokrome> seems like that mostly worked aside from it seems like my initrc can't be rewritten by nixos-rebuild any more
<monokrome> initrd*
<monokrome> cannot copy /nix/store/inigpq9ib2257bxf8sd50hm8d9jm09zr-initrd/initrd to /boot/kernels/inigpq9ib2257bxf8sd50hm8d9jm09zr-initrd-initrd.tmp
<monokrome> O_o
<monokrome> seems bad
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<LnL> is /boot full?
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<seequ__> Even nixos-install --root /mnt installed to /
<seequ__> Any ideas why?
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<ben> Did you mount / into /mnt
<ben> sorry that's my only idea
<ben> or is /mnt/nix a mount or a symlink or something
<seequ__> ben: /mnt/nix/store doesn't exist, so unlikely
<sphalerite> seequ__: where and when did you get the installer?
<Dezgeg> did it actually install to / and not /mnt? it executes in a chroot
<Dezgeg> so I guess what it outputs can seem wrong
<seequ__> sphalerite: a few weeks ago, from the nixos homepage, it's 17.09
<Dezgeg> oh, /mnt/nix/store doesn't exists. well that's odd
<sphalerite> seequ__: 17.09's installer still builds in the tmpfs, and only then copies to /mnt
<seequ__> Dezgeg: the packages exist in /nix/store
<sphalerite> seequ__: try 18.03 :)
<seequ__> sphalerite: hmm so I could get away with just not building everything in the initial install?
<sphalerite> it was a bug, but not a complete deal-breaker, so it wasn't fixed until nixos-install itself was updated to work with nix 2.0
<monokrome> MichaelRaskin: initiallyInstalledVersion?
<sphalerite> seequ__: yes, if running out of space is your problem. Using 18.03, which uses nix 2.0, is the nicer solution though
<seequ__> sphalerite: I'm assuming that's the only benefit of using 18.03's installer?
<MichaelRaskin> monokrome: doesn't give hints what it does
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<sphalerite> seequ__: well it's faster as well, and you install 18.03 without any extra commands
<seequ__> Well in my case it'll be faster to install nixos thrice. :P
<monokrome> MichaelRaskin: no?
<sphalerite> seequ__: oh, because downloading the installer takes long?
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<seequ__> sphalerite: yeah and I'd need to set up some other pc to do it
<MichaelRaskin> monokrome: I think people who thought that it is a good idea to migrate the state to be up to date will not be comforted by the state version.
<sphalerite> seequ__: since you'll need to use 18.03 anyway, it'll have to download all the stuff in the installer and more for the installation anyway
<MichaelRaskin> Even if it is «initially installed version» — it shouldn't matter and the name gives no hints why it should
<sphalerite> seequ__: in fact if you boot the 17.09 installer with copytoram, you could download the 18.03 installer and write it over the old one from there, without setting up another machine, assuming it's a USB one :D
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<monokrome> MichaelRaskin: Because referring to an initial state that isn't the real state sounds like a dangerous thing to do if it is referenced like that
<MichaelRaskin> Or something
<seequ__> sphalerite: Heh, that'd be fun. I just removed extraneous things from the config so I can get things running without messing anything up.
<monokrome> My boot partition was full of kernels and stuff it seemed like
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<monokrome> seems that when you use systemd and switch to GRUB, it leaves systemd there for instance
<monokrome> (probably for a rollback or something)
<monokrome> I moved the files off the drive, re-ran nixos-rebuild and then rebooted and it booted properly
<monokrome> so deleted the files and ran collect-garbage
<monokrome> and it fixed it :)
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<jophish> K_STRUCTURE_TYPE_DESCRIPTOR_SET_LAYOUT_SUPPORT
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<seequ__> > Failed to create EFI boot variable entry: no such file or directory
<seequ__> 18.03 installer
<seequ__> seems like it tried to write to /boot
<Dezgeg> no I presume that happens when trying to write to /sys/firmware/efi/efivars.
<seequ__> dunno
<seequ__> any ideas how to fix that?
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<Dezgeg> is that directory (/sys/firmware/efi/efivars) empty?
<Dezgeg> is it listed in mount?
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<seequ__> no, but /sys/firmware/efi/efivars is there
<jgt> I have this shell.nix. It has an overriden Haskell package (persistent). The version number in the overriden package is 2.8.2. When I run `nix-shell` and then `ghc-pkg list`, it shows I have persistent-2.7.1. Why? http://ix.io/17Lx
<seequ__> ..I misread you
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<Unode> hi all, I've recently updated to 18.03 and now a weird sound issue (one which I haven't been able to identify source) re-appeared. The problem is that when I connect headphones to my laptop sound loses all bass.
<jgt> I know it's building that package too, since I watched it
<seequ__> Dezgeg: it's not empty
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<Unode> This is independent of which software I use (mpv, mpd,...)
<Dezgeg> does it start to work if you do `mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars` ?
<Unode> so if I use the headphone jack to connect to an external amplifier the sound is all glitchy and weird.
<Unode> Is anyone aware of any such issue? and do you know how to address this?
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<seequ__> Dezgeg: says it's already mounted
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<Dezgeg> huh
<seequ__> 'bootctl --path=/boot install' is the failing command
<seequ__> it manages to copy two files before erroring
<Lears> seequ__: It might be this issue, which has a couple of workarounds in the comments: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/38477
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<seequ__> Seems like it is
<seequ__> So I'd have been better off actually installing 17.09
<seequ__> :F
<Dezgeg> I wonder if stracing the bootctl command gives anything useful for debugging
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<sphalerite> Unode: might be worth trying with older alsa/pulseaudio packages to see if that fixes it
<sphalerite> also, you say "re-appeared" — when was it previously appearing?
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<Unode> This happened in the past but I could never track the cause
<Unode> past being 17.03 - 17.09
<Dezgeg> maybe try muting all the non-important channels in alsamixer
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<Unode> I did. There aren't that many.
<Unode> It's also weird as if there's this echo or "large empty room" effect.
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<Unode> actually, BRB, trying out if this also happens in Windows. Rulling out any kind of hardware issue...
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* Unode wonders if the dual boot still works... been over 3 years since I last used it :)
<ij> My bundlerEnv code doesn't work on 18.03 any more. :( "value is a string with context while a set was expected" in nixos/lib/attrsets.
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<Dezgeg> hmm, I wonder if the efivarfs problem is actuallly that it's mounted outside the chroot but not inside it
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<seequ__> Dezgeg: the workaround worked
<Dezgeg> which workaround?
<seequ__> LSLeary's
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<ambro718> When "nix build" fails how do I get more output than last 10 lines?
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<sphalerite> ambro718: use nix log
<Dezgeg> ah-ha, nothing mounts /sys in nixos-enter
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38814 → rpy2: unbreak build → https://git.io/vxAgd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpene
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<sphalerite> ambro718: so after the build fails, just replace `build` with `log` in the command
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<ij> How are all the ruby things in 18.03? Still stellar?
<ambro718> nix log -o ... error: unrecognozed flag '-o'
<ambro718> this is too complicated
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<ambro718> nix log error: more arguments are required
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<ambro718> my nix build command is: nix build -o ~/somewhere
<sphalerite> ah bummer. That's a UI bug https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/2066
<sphalerite> as a workaround you can either write a file where the thing you want to build is in an attrset
<sphalerite> or just use nix-build
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji opened pull request #38942 → linuxPackages.splLegacyCrypto: fix build → https://git.io/vpenT
<ambro718> sphalerite: I would preferably use "nix build mything -o ~/somewhere" but for a reason unknown to me that just gives: error: attribute 'mything' in selection path 'mything' not found
<ambro718> sphalerite: default.nix is an attrset with a single attribute mything, and "nix-build -A mything" works
<ambro718> I am really confused
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko pushed commit from @volth to master « scallion: init at 2.1 (#38817) »: https://git.io/vpenm
<ambro718> ... and "nix build -o ~/somewhere" seems to do exactly what "nix-build -A mything" does, including making ~/somewhere point to the result
<ambro718> I have no idea why nix seems to implicitly grab the mything out of the attrset
<sphalerite> ambro718: nix build -f . mything -o ~/somewhere
<sphalerite> ambro718: if you give an attrset without an attr path, it'll just build everything in it
<sphalerite> ambro718: if you have that you can then also do nix log -f . mything
<ambro718> sphalerite: okay the -f . does help
<seequ__> Hmm i3 isn't starting automatically. It does with the same config on an older setup.
<ambro718> still don't get through why
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<ambro718> why does "nix build mything" give "error: attribute 'mything' in selection path 'mything' not found" while "nix build -f . mything" works?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko opened pull request #38943 → [WIP] thunderbird: pass less non-standard flags → https://git.io/vpen8
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<seequ__> Any idea how I can get i3 to autostart in 18.03?
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<zybell_> define autostart:after,instead,before login
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<seequ__> where?
<Dezgeg> is X itself starting or not?
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<seequ__> yes, and so is the display manager
<seequ__> login works
<Dezgeg> and what do you get instead of i3 when you login?
<seequ__> it opens urxvt
<seequ__> in a plain X session
<Dezgeg> and if you close it you get logged out?
<seequ__> yes
<Dezgeg> I guess you need services.xserver.desktopManager.xterm.enable = false; since the default is true
<Dezgeg> but of course more interesting is why the behaviour has changed
<seequ__> Yeah, my two other devices don't have that and are running unstable
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<Dezgeg> which display manager it is?
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<seequ__> lightdm
<Dezgeg> so does it have some option in the UI to switch between i3 and xterm?
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<Dezgeg> as the session type
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<seequ__> apparently so!
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<seequ__> never noticed that
<seequ__> thanks a lot
<Dezgeg> I guess one day some solution should be figured out that services.xserver.desktopManager.xterm.enable = false; would be the default without breaking some existing configs
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<justanotheruser> Hey, I'm trying to install an old version of chromium, so I used https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ#How_can_I_install_a_package_from_unstable_while_remaining_on_the_stable_channel.3F
<justanotheruser> I got this error though https://hastebin.com/raw/iwujokorit
<justanotheruser> line 4 is nixos-1803 = import <nixos-18.03> {};
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<sphalerite> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/37908 could I get a merge?
<sphalerite> Mic92 (resident merger-of-all-trades) ^
<sphalerite> justanotheruser: you need to add the channel with the appropriate name, as shown on that page
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<justanotheruser> sphalerite: I did https://hastebin.com/raw/axuzaridir
<sphalerite> justanotheruser: you called the channel nixos-1803 but used nixos-18.03 in the config
<justanotheruser> well yeah, isn't the imported channel name what I want to name 18.03?
<justanotheruser> "nixos-1803 = import <nixos-18.03> {};"
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<justanotheruser> you can't have a variable named nixos-18.03 after all
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<ij> manveru, It seems like passing a filterSource expression that evaluates to a string doesn't lead to the same behavior as passing the evaluted string itself.
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<justanotheruser> sphalerite: sorry, I copied and pasted the error from a few days ago when I named it nixos-18.03. Right now the line is "nixos-1803 = import <nixos-1803> {};'
<ij> manveru, That doesn't happen when I point nixpkgs to a locally checked out release-17.09. :(
<justanotheruser> error: file ‘nixos-1803’ was not found in the Nix search path
<zybell_> did you try what it prposes in the last line?
<zybell_> *proposes
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<ij> manveru, Here's a crappy bug report: https://clbin.com/aAPMf
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<justanotheruser> talking to me? I don't have an unfree package
<zybell_> in iwujokorit the last line of the error
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<zybell_> did tell you to use --show-trace
<zybell_> to get a better report
<zybell_> did you try?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #37908 → Openclonk 8.1 → https://git.io/vxzYP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpeC3
<{^_^}> → ea1a167d by @lheckemann: openclonk: 7.0 -> 8.1
<{^_^}> → 997ead8a by @Mic92: Merge pull request #37908 from lheckemann/openclonk-8.1
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<tnks> I have a high-DPI screen and my mouse pointer is really small. What's the way to adjust that in NixOS?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @woffs opened pull request #38944 → rdnssd: fix service → https://git.io/vpeCR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #37595 → paraview: include numpy in python environment → https://git.io/vxC5r
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpeCr
<{^_^}> → dff672ec by @SFrijters: paraview: include numpy in python environment
<{^_^}> → 054f4f9c by @dotlambda: Merge pull request #37595 from SFrijters/paraview-numpy
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<Turion> tnks, that's an issue with your desktop manager, I'd believe..?
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<tnks> Turion: hmm... part of me is unsure about that... I kind of feel like it's something set with X.
<tnks> but I'm using i3.
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<tnks> but I did just notice that NixOS is defaulting my DPI to 96, which is way too low.
<tnks> when it starts X, it needs to pass in --dpi 280 or whatever.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 opened pull request #38945 → nixos/pulseaudio: pulseaudio.enable should imply sound.enable → https://git.io/vpeWZ
<winsome> I've got an external monitor plugged into my computer, and it shows up in xrandr, but there's no display
<winsome> googling around a bit hasn't revealed much, maybe I'm just not finding the right way to describe the problem
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<winsome> does anybody know anything about that?
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<winsome> or know a forum that would?
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<Turion> tnks, maybe services.xserver.dpi?
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<Turion> winsome, is the question more like "How to work with xrandr?" or "How to get nixos pass the right config to x?"
<tnks> Turion: yeah, sounds like it might be.
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<Turion> tnks: I haven't tried it, but from the options it sounds like this is the place where you can tinker
<winsom> Turion: (this is me from a different computer) I just restarted my session with KDE Plasma5 as my desktop manager instead of just i3wm, and now it works as expected
<winsom> I've never had trouble with xrandr and i3 on my past computers, though
<tnks> Turion: yeah, I forgot that `man configuration.nix` is a good starting point.
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<tnks> Turion: okay, so that good part is I have the DPI set correctly... but my mouse pointer is still tiny.
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<boomshroom> Hello!
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<Unode> sphalerite: so the issue is now gone. Can't say if booting to windows helped or reconnecting the jack so many times helped
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<boomshroom> I see nixpkgs has an emscripten stdenv. Is it possible to use it to compile to wasm?
<Turion> tnks, I forget that constantly. The mouse pointer though should be a window manager issue
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<Turion> I don't know i3 though
<tnks> Turion: so Debian has a package called "big-cursor" that just has a replacement pcf pack of images.
<tnks> that's how I resolve it there, so not at the i3-level, but at the X level.
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<tnks> Turion: yeah, so I just looked at the install scripts on the Debian "big-cursor" package, and it swaps out the cursor.pcf.gz for another one. In Nix, this package is provided by font-cursor-misc
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<boomshroom> Let's see if hello wants to build with emscripten.
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-18.03-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e695a743370 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-18.03-darwin)
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<Turion> Hmm, then I don't know :/ maybe need to write a new package?
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<boomshroom> Currently trying to build hello with emscripten. Unfortunately it needed overriding because it was complaining about a lack of ./autogen.sh, but it seems to be working now.
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<boomshroom> It complained about being unable to test, but that's an easy fix: "doCheck = false;"
<sphalerite> thanks MichaelRaskin
<sphalerite> oopps
<sphalerite> Mic92 &
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<dbe> My laptop does not boot info nixos-unstable. The last emssage I get is something about seeding random. Is this a known bug?
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<boomshroom> Managed to build hello. Now to see if it runs.
<zybell_> dbe:seeding random takes a lot of time, especially so if no human interacts with the computer at that time.
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<dbe> zybell_, ok... let's say I'm fine with starting my desktop manager anyway; seeding can continue in the background. Can I do that? Do I have to turn off the service entirely?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38936 → testssl: 2.9.5-4 -> 2.9.5-5 → https://git.io/vpeYg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed commit from @etu to master « testssl: 2.9.5-4 -> 2.9.5-5 (#38936) »: https://git.io/vpeBv
<boomshroom> For some reason, hello was compiled to LLVM bitcode rather than WASM.
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<Dezgeg> I doubt that seeding the random number generator is related, it's simply the last thing that successfully happened
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<dbe> Dezgeg, yeah, I think so too, and I see now that rngd is running on this environment too. so something else is up I guess.
<dbe> Can I jump into "the last biuld that grub would boot into" with a shell and inspect stuff somehow? Without actually activating the services, since that fucks my system up
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38747 → cbatticon: 1.6.7 -> 1.6.8 → https://git.io/vxNfI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « cbatticon: 1.6.7 -> 1.6.8 (#38747) »: https://git.io/vpeBi
<dbe> found it; 'nixos-rebuild build'
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38711 → libqrencode: 3.4.4 -> 4.0.0 → https://git.io/vxbzZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « libqrencode: 3.4.4 -> 4.0.0 (#38711) »: https://git.io/vpeRt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38750 → asunder: 2.9.2 -> 2.9.3 → https://git.io/vxNJx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « asunder: 2.9.2 -> 2.9.3 (#38750) »: https://git.io/vpeRs
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<dbe> In "man nixos-rebuild", it says "/path/to/nixpkgs/nixos". Where is this (on nixos)?
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<ma27> does anybody want to test this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/38327 ? :)
<dbe> oh right, it's in $NIX_PATH.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to master « oh-my-zsh: 2017-01-22 -> 2017-04-06 »: https://git.io/vpeRb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to release-18.03 « oh-my-zsh: 2017-01-22 -> 2017-04-06 »: https://git.io/vpeRh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #38931 → home-assistant: 0.66.1 -> 0.67.0 → https://git.io/vpekC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed to master « home-assistant: 0.66.1 -> 0.67.0 (#38931) »: https://git.io/vpe03
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<sphalerite> I'm trying to reproduce a build failure for a kernel derivation in a nix-shell, but it's not going too well — is running `genericBuild` in `nix-shell --pure` not the right way to do this?
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<fresheyeball> hey out there
<fresheyeball> I have been using nix-shell -p for short term access to things
<fresheyeball> is there a version where I can access by attribute?
<fresheyeball> I assumed nix-shell -pA but it doesnt do what I expect
<boomshroom> fresheyeball: nix run
<boomshroom> fresheyeball: It doesn't have all the features of nix-shell, but it's perfect for running packages without installing.
<fresheyeball> nice
<zybell_> sphalerite:if you try to *reproduce* sth it would be a good idea to do it like it was done first, not the 'right' way.
<fresheyeball> boomshroom: I dont have the nix command, but I figured it out
<sphalerite> zybell_: do you know how nix works?
<fresheyeball> nix-shell -p gnome3.gnome-disk-utility worked
<fresheyeball> while
<zybell_> a little
<ma27> boomshroom: `nix` is available in Nix 2.0
<fresheyeball> nix-shell -p nixos.gnome3... did not
<ma27> fresheyeball: `nix-shell -p pkgname` doesn't need the channel name at first (not sure why though)
<boomshroom> fresheyeball: It requires nix 2.0. The easiest way I know to get it is `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.nixUnstable` followed by `nix upgrade-nix`
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<ma27> boomshroom: isn't Nix 2.0 the default on 18.03?
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<boomshroom> ma27: It should be, but just in case or if he's running Nix on a non-NixOS system.
<ma27> boomshroom: fair enough %)
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<boomshroom> I think it would be cool if nix was capable of building a full system in WASM.
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<boomshroom> Can wasm do things like make symlinks when run in Node?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srghma opened pull request #38947 → node2nix: add nix as dependency (fix for #38946) → https://git.io/vpe0h
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus opened pull request #38948 → restic service: init → https://git.io/vpeEM
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<neonfuz> anyone have experience dealing with node binary packages on nixos?
<neonfuz> like as part of a node project
<neonfuz> I'm trying to get a node project built, which depends on jpegtran-bin, but the build fails for a few reasons, but I can't really fix it because it's all errors in an install script I can't touch in ./node_modules
<neonfuz> so I tried with node2nix, thinking of making overrides to fix the build? not sure if I get a hook between unpack and running the install script
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<sphalerite> neonfuz: sure, postUnpack :)
<sphalerite> MichaelRaskin: you're maintainer for sauerbraten apparently, is it building for you??
<sphalerite> I'm getting errors about '____gammaf128_r_finite' not being declared and similar
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<MichaelRaskin> Interesting question
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe should pin to an older gcc
<MichaelRaskin> (I don't actually use it now)
<neonfuz> ah, found preRebuild
<neonfuz> I think that's what I want?
<neonfuz> in the node-env generated by node2nix
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<neonfuz> MichaelRaskin: yeah last I tried installing it I failed, and just checked out an older nixpkgs to get it to work lol
<neonfuz> (I know how to do things better like pinning a gcc version), but yeah something's broken
<nur0n0> hey guys, a couple of questions: is there a reference for functions such as 'fetchFromGitHub'? and is there a reference for error messages? is my best bet the source?
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<nur0n0> the nixpkg manual and nix pills have been good at setting up a mental model, but they have not been helpful with specific issues
<neonfuz> I usually grep around the nixpkgs source and look for examples, there should be some sort of definitive examples source though maybe
<MichaelRaskin> Argh. Nixpkgs manual does contain an example of fetchFromGitHub but not a description
<gchristensen> neonfuz: usually I search for the definition of functions, like https://search.nix.gsc.io/?q=fetchFromGitHub%20%3D&i=nope&files=&repos=
<neonfuz> lul
<neonfuz> nice, often I go to all-packages.nix and look for the definition there
<neonfuz> a search works too, probably better
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<nur0n0> yeah I've been looking throught the nixpkgs source for examples, but that only got me so far. For example: I know that fetchFromGitHub requires a sha256, and I assumed it was the hash of the tarball, but I'm getting an error seemingly related to that and I'm stuck
<sphalerite> MichaelRaskin: I tried using an older gcc, didn't help
* sphalerite nix build -f channel:nixos-17.03 sauerbraten
<MichaelRaskin> sphalerite: older as in gcc5?
<sphalerite> yeah
<MichaelRaskin> (just recently tried to move LO to gcc6 from gcc5, nope, doesn't work without patches)
<sphalerite> ooh but there's the SDL2 client which is better anyway, almost forgot about that
<sphalerite> I need to put that in nixpkgs
<sphalerite> I did package it at some point, just not in nixpkgs
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<MichaelRaskin> Wait what
<MichaelRaskin> That looks like a glibc packaging bug
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<sphalerite> ouch
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<nur0n0> neonfuz: could you point me to all-packages.nix? is that where 'fetchFromGitHub' is defined? I tried grepping through 'https://github.com/NixOS/nix' to no avail
<MichaelRaskin> nix is the package manager
<MichaelRaskin> nixpkgs is the package collection
<MichaelRaskin> It is another repository
<zybell_> you can find the def at the url Gchristensen gave.
<zybell_> but the logic for rev is at another place
<zybell_> idk where atm
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<nur0n0> zybell_: thank you! I was confused as to what I was looking at. I'll try digging into the link
<zybell_> .tar.gz contains 4bytes near the start that are nondeterministic. give diff hash everytime its packed.
<zybell_> click on the line nr near it to zoom in
<sphalerite> MichaelRaskin: the SDL2 client is failing with the same problem :/
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<MichaelRaskin> This does look like a problem with glibc, to be honest
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<zybell_> do you need to define GNU_SOURCE or similar?
<zybell_> or -std=c98?
<MichaelRaskin> There is some strange internal magic with ____ prefix instead of __ in some place
<MichaelRaskin> Not sure what is actually going on
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<boomshroom> Just dissasembled my desktop.
<neonfuz> Any way to list the attributes in a nix file?
<neonfuz> or like, evaluated attributes I guess
<boomshroom> Quick question, is there any reason to use ALSA over Pulseaudio?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 opened pull request #38951 → i3lock-pixeled: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.0 → https://git.io/vpezS
<iqubic> boomshroom: pulseaudio relies on ALSA, so if you want the advanced features, go with pulse.
<manveru> ij: what's this cleansource thing?
<boomshroom> iqubic: What kind of advanced features are those?
<MichaelRaskin> If you know what you are doing — fully dynamic reconfiguration of sound output without application restart
<ij> manveru, The result of a filterSource.
<manveru> ij: if you wanted, you could simply pass the Gemfile/Gemfile.lock to bundlerEnv instead? gemdir is just a shortcut...
<MichaelRaskin> And network support, although obviously JACK is better
<boomshroom> MichaelRaskin: Like plugging in a headset and the sound switching automatically?
<manveru> ah, also the gemset
<MichaelRaskin> You mean a USB headset?
<MichaelRaskin> I wouldn't rely on PulseAudio doing _anything_ automatically in the same way as you actually want
<ij> manveru, Sure, but it seems counterintuitive that it wouldn't work since filterSource should evaluate to a path, but the resulting hardcoded path works.
<boomshroom> MichaelRaskin: or jack. So don't bother with Pulse?
<MichaelRaskin> But you will most likely be able to switch from the headset back to the dynamics without application restart or anything like that.
<manveru> ij: yeah, i don't have a clue what's going on there :|
<MichaelRaskin> There is a problem that Firefox manages to do some things wrong with pure ALSA
<boomshroom> MichaelRaskin: That sounds like a reason to use Pulse.
<MichaelRaskin> So stuff live videochat in browser does require PulseAudio with Firefox
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<boomshroom> Also, media keys: Will they require any addition configuring for a macbook?
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<MichaelRaskin> These instances of Firefox do get a personal temporary PA instance on my laptop.
<iqubic> boomshroom: It depends on what DE/WM you use.
<boomshroom> iqubic: i3
<ij> manveru, I'll try to come up with a better/isolated bug report.
<iqubic> Yeah, just configure the media keys like you normally would, and it should work.
<boomshroom> iqubic: I've never configured them before. They just work on macOS and I haven't bothered to set them up on linux before.
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<boomshroom> I only use the volume buttons because I can't just turn a knob.
<iqubic> Well i3 doesn't manage the media keys for you. You have to bind them your self iirc.
* jack[m] agrees with MichaelRaskin -- JACK is better.
<iqubic> What is JACK? A PulseAudio alternative?
<zybell_> Could be
<zybell_> It doesnt do balace,vol onth other hand it does MIDI
<zybell_> s/balace,vol onth/balance, volume on the/
<jack[m]> Low latency pro-grade audio stuff for linux.
<zybell_> pulse is more mixer,jack more switchboard
<sphalerite> I'm trying to reproduce a build failure for a kernel derivation in a nix-shell, but it's not going too well — is running `genericBuild` in `nix-shell --pure` not the right way to reproduce the build in the case of the kernel?
<ij> manveru, https://clbin.com/RtZ1M try out nix-build -E 'import ./. { print = true; }' and fail = true/false on this nix file.
<ij> manveru, prints out the same path, but acts differently
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<ij> manveru, but seemingly… not on 17.09 :)
<sphalerite> oooh right I needed to change $out and $dev
<zybell_> genericBuild is no kernel script. if it is a nix-function I would expect it to call configure first, which the kernel doesnt have.
<Dezgeg> it calls all the phases just as defined in the derivation
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<zybell_> and where does a --pure nix-shell get the settings for the phases`
<zybell_> ?
<sphalerite> zybell_: please don't try to help me since you clearly don't know what you're talking about
<sphalerite> zybell_: if you want to know how nixpkgs works, read the manual at https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual
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<MichaelRaskin> sphalerite: looks like the kernel uses the generic build, though
<sphalerite> MichaelRaskin: yeah, it was failing because I needed to change not only $out but $dev too
<sphalerite> and it tries to create $dev before actually building anything
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<boomshroom> Enabling sound now. It looks like sound.enableMediaKeys automatically sets the volume keys.
<sphalerite> whereas most other derivations don't touch their output paths until installPhase
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<nur0n0> Is there a preferred way of porting python packages to nix? I am trying to do one by hand, but I keep getting stuck. Will pypi2nix work, or is there something better?
<sphalerite> nur0n0: pypi2nix is usually a good starting point
<nur0n0> sphalerite: ok, I'll look into it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #38941 → {cc,bintools}-wrapper: fix removal of unsupported hardening flags → https://git.io/vpe3h
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/vpe2e
<{^_^}> → 4707dc64 by @pbogdan: {cc,bintools}-wrapper: fix removal of unsupported hardening flags
<{^_^}> → c0e58f80 by @Ericson2314: Merge pull request #38941 from pbogdan/hardening-unsupported-flags
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to master « guake: 3.1.0 → 3.2.0 »: https://git.io/vpe2k
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to master « shotwell: 0.28.1 → 0.28.2 »: https://git.io/vpe2R
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 closed pull request #38894 → log4cplus: 1.2.0 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/vxhRT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #38951 → i3lock-pixeled: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.0 → https://git.io/vpezS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vpe2D
<{^_^}> → 4314d14e by @Ma27: i3lock-pixeled: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.0
<{^_^}> → dfd47046 by @Mic92: Merge pull request #38951 from Ma27/update-i3lock-pixeled
<day|flip> any one have any ideas how I can install package using luarocks?
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<CornBurglar> heyy I cannot get anything openGL to work (LibGL errors) has anyone had this issue/knowledge of how to solve it?
<CornBurglar> LibGL fails to find drivers
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<CornBurglar> i965 and swrast
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<day|flip> boot.kernelModules = [ "kvm-intel" "i965" ]; is what i got running
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<CornBurglar> lemme try
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<day|flip> services.xserver.config = '' add your custom xorg.conf here '';
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<day|flip> https://hastebin.com/hoxotocega.bash this is what im running
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-18.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7a2670d0672 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-18.03-small)
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<CornBurglar> Making those edits did not resolve the issue
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<CornBurglar> http://0x0.st/sSHi.txt <-- this is the output when trying to run anything OpenGL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rittelle opened pull request #38953 → kalarm: init → https://git.io/vpeV0
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<card[m]> hi, i'm having a really weird issue with gnome 3 on nixos. apps installed as a user w/ nix-env -i start out with icons, but eventually after some number of reboots disappear & apps are rendered with the theme's default icon (a cog). i havent been able to get the icons back even after uninstalling and reinstalling
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji opened pull request #38954 → extundelete: fix build with e2fsprogs 1.44 → https://git.io/vpeVA
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<card[m]> anyone had a similar experience ? any way to fix it, or work around it ?
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