<dhess>
gchristensen: new full-time gig for you, then?
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<johnw>
gchristensen: col
<johnw>
cool
<samueldr>
the temptation is strong
<dhess>
is there a way to create a tempfile in a Hydra job?
<gchristensen>
Yeah as of a few weeks ago:)
<dhess>
as in, something that doesn't go into the Nix store
<dhess>
gchristensen: wow, congratulations! Are you in/moving to London?
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<gchristensen>
Nah I'm staying remote, in Massachusetts.
<gchristensen>
Though hopefully there will be frequent visits... ;)
<dhess>
I bookmark quite a few tweag.io blog posts
<nflores>
clever and sphalerite_: the simplest curlOpts finally worked! curlOpts = ["-L" "-H" "Accept:application/octet-stream"];
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<clever>
nflores: ah, putting the -H and its param in the same string probably messed with things
<nflores>
clever: yeah! I was trying this list before but I was wrapping with lib.escapeShellArgs and that was messing me up too
<nflores>
this will keep me moving along in setting up my dev env
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<ottidmes>
I am trying to repackage a precompiled deb package, I have used patchelf and set the interpreter and rpath, but now I am getting the following: /nix/store/1j85y9zswjnya4lxsw68agdn6nxg907r-openssl-1.0.2n/lib/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: no version information available
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jraygauthier opened pull request #35256: brscan4 module: Added to `modules-list.nix`. (master...jrg/add_brscan4_to_modules_list) https://git.io/vA0DX
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vA0Dy
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vA0Q3
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.09 ccaa789 Raymond Gauthier: brscan4 module: Added to `modules-list.nix`....
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<Lisanna>
ugh, how could I be getting this error? I'm not using unsafeDIscardStringContext at all
<Lisanna>
the string ‘testdrv’ is not allowed to refer to a store path (such as ‘!out!/nix/store/7l24gfvhdd9v6kb0dfyj8wxy2lqwpgdg-testdrv.drv’)
<Lisanna>
seems like if I'm not using unsafeDiscardStringContext then that error should be impossible, outside of manually typing out a /nix/store path somewhere
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<clever>
Lisanna: can you gist the nix expression?
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<Lisanna>
it's a bit sprawling...
<Lisanna>
is my previous assumption correct though?
<clever>
if you refer to it elsewhere, anywhere in the closure, it will be checked for
<shlevy>
Why do you think it means you're using it somewhere?
<Lisanna>
...oh
<Lisanna>
...wait, what? why?
<clever>
Lisanna: can you gist the nix expressions?
<shlevy>
Lisanna: Certain primops and fields of the derivation primop aren't allowed to have strings that refer to other derivation outputs
<Lisanna>
maybe, let me see
<shlevy>
if you pasted the full error with --show-trace or the nix expr we can help more
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<Lisanna>
yeah, I'll gist that too
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<Lisanna>
computer crashed... ugh
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<Lisanna_>
ugh... now I'm being haunted again by "path X does not exist and cannot be created"
<Lisanna_>
except, I'm not using any discards at all now... so how on earth is that even possible
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<dtz>
grahamc: shlevy Sonarpulse , others: sorry for not following-up on RFC more actively! Thank you and everyone for discussion, today got a bit away from me and now I'm a bit burned to make a proper response, will do it bright and early tomorrow over some coffee ^_^
<Lisanna_>
last time I got that error I figured one of my discards was causing a dependency to not get included in the sandbox
<gchristensen>
hah, pretty sure you get at least 24hrs to reply :)
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<dtz>
for the sake of pointing objdump and similar at some binaries I just... scp'd a nix store path. Not with nix-copy-closure or anything but like.... scp -r dtz@host:result/ . && echo dishonor on my family;
<dtz>
:P
<Lisanna_>
dtz it's only slightly worse than nix-store --dump
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<taohansen>
I'm trying to fetch a private git repo. I tell my server I want to get the identity file from /etc/ssh/ssh_config which specifies its location at /etc/ssh/{identity} however nixbld doesn't have the correct permissions to read this file
<taohansen>
How do I give nixbld its permissions in a stateless way (within my configuration.nix)?
<clever>
taohansen: one min
<clever>
taohansen: there is no real secure way to give nixbld access to the private key, without exposing it to every single build you do
<clever>
taohansen: but you can give it access to an ssh-agent, which keeps the secret a secret
<taohansen>
clever: Will I need to run those three commands every time? I just want to `nixos-rebuild switch` so my team can just worry about pushing their dev code
<clever>
taohansen: you could create a systemd service that manages starting the socat, and the file from the 2nd command should persist if your not wiping /tmp on shutdown
<clever>
so its just a matter of then passing the -I's to nixos-rebuild
<tanonym>
I have been hunting online to try to figure out what I need to do to get the setuid wrapper configured correctly for the enlightenment cpufreq module.
<tanonym>
I am not finding anything helpful on how to go about fixing the issue.
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<tanonym>
Enlightenment 0.22 from channel unstable seems not to have the setuid wrapper set right for the cpufreq module, the previous version 0.21.9 from the 17.09 channel was fine.
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<ashkitten>
Hi, I'm trying to run nix-shell from a systemd user service, but I get an error that nix-shell couldn't be found by /usr/bin/env. Should I specify the full path?
<ashkitten>
how do i run nix-shell from a systemd service?
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<symphorien>
/run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-shell
<ashkitten>
symphorien: now it says "Nix database directory ‘/nix/var/nix/db’ is not writable: Permission denied"
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<symphorien>
Hum you need to reexport various environnement variables
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<symphorien>
Probably NIX_REMOTE
<ashkitten>
hmmm okay
<ashkitten>
symphorien: now it can't find bash :/
<symphorien>
Use sh
<ashkitten>
symphorien: i'm not specifying the shell tho..
<symphorien>
/bin/sh I mean
<symphorien>
The shell guaranteed to exist by posix
<ashkitten>
symphorien: i know but i'm not specifying any shell, just using nix-shell --run
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<symphorien>
Then add -p bash to have it :)
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<symphorien>
Anyway, afk, sorry
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<sphalerite_>
# Parallel building is broken in OpenSSL
<sphalerite_>
:(
<hyper_ch>
sphalerite_: you broke it?
<sphalerite_>
hyper_ch: no, that's a comment in the openssl expression
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<srhb>
Are all submodules enriched with, say, _module and _file during evaluation, and if so at which point?
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<sphalerite_>
Oh boy, nix is evaluating stuff nondeterministically!
<sphalerite_>
error: attribute 'weston' in selection path 'weston' not found
<sphalerite_>
error: the expression selected by the selection path 'xwayland' should be a set but is a list
<sphalerite_>
error: the expression selected by the selection path 'xwayland' should be a set but is a function
<sphalerite_>
all from the same nixpkgs…
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<sphalerite_>
infinisil: your https-migration script might also be useful to run on a regular basis (daily?) to find URLs that have gone missing
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<ij>
sphalerite_, I've no idea how to compile an autotools project.
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<ij>
sphalerite_, I get a "configure" file after a repeated combination of "automake/autoconf/autoreconf -i", but ./configure still complains about some makefiles missing.
<sphalerite_>
does the project have an autogen.sh?
<adisbladis[m]>
ij: You might wanna look at autoreconfHook
<ij>
There's ./bootstrap that I just found in INSTALL. I was looking for a HACKING or something.
<sphalerite_>
:)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #31507: Fixes for CUDA and Tensorflow update (master...tensorflow-new) https://git.io/vFVlm
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<tanonym>
is there a wiki on troubleshooting setuid-wrapper issues in nixos?
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<tanonym>
i have not been able to find much online about the setuid-wrapper.
<vaibhavsagar>
is there a particular problem you are trying to solve?
<tanonym>
i need to chown and chmod the enlightenment de's cpufreq module to get it to run properly.
<tanonym>
but i figure it's a good thing to know about since it's needed for the steam client to function in nixos as well.
<vaibhavsagar>
tanonym: can you add it to security.setuidPrograms from the file I linked above?
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<tanonym>
where would that file exist in my existing install or do i need to create a new one?
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<techtangents[m]>
My team is trying to fin Haskell on AWS lambda. We need to statically link everything into one binary. We're doing this by telling GCC to statically link everything. This breaks when our lambda job tries to connect to the internet. It sounds like glibc is dynamically loading some TCP stuff that isn't there. Research points to requiring --enable-static-nss for glibc. Is there a nix solution for this?
<techtangents[m]>
s/fin/run
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<manveru>
tanonym: steam doesn't need setuid-wrapper... it works fine in its own chroot :)
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<tanonym>
ah. seems the cpufreq module for e22 does.
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<manveru>
e22... last time i tried it they were at 17...
<manveru>
is it usable these days?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] mogorman opened pull request #35262: python-notify2: init at 0.3.1 (master...notify2) https://git.io/vAEtU
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<tanonym>
it's usable. i had 17.09 with e21.9 running.
<tanonym>
unstable is at e22 now, but unlike 21.9, somehow the setuid ownership for the cpufreq module didn't get set and i can't just chown and chmod the module directly in the nix store.
<tanonym>
so i have the setuid-wrapper.nix file pasted into an editor, but i don't know what to do with it, or where to look to see if one is on my system already and add the entry for e22's cpufreq.
<tanonym>
huh, looks like /var/setuid-wrappers is missing so i need to create it, unless the location has changed from where it was in 16.09?
<srhb>
tanonym: I don't know if it changes, but I think my suid wrappers live in /run/wrappers/bin
<srhb>
changed*
<tanonym>
i'll look there.
<infinisil>
sphalerite_: the scrip is about done, but there were some problems im going to blame bash for
<ottidmes>
Any idea how to solve: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: no version information available, when patching an existing binary? I am at a loss on how to solve it. I tried patchelf --set-rpath and wrapProgram, both work to set the right library paths, but neither solve those warnings
<infinisil>
What it does specifically: look for urls in nixpkgs
<tanonym>
ah, run/wrappers/ has a freqset.orig and freqset.orig.real that point to the module in the store directory of e22.1
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] mogorman opened pull request #35265: found spelling errors for propagatedBuildInputs via my own mispelled grep query (master...spellingfix) https://git.io/vAEqa
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] adisbladis pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAEqo
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<infinisil>
Then it checks the https version of that website first, and the http version next
<infinisil>
It follows redirects too
<tanonym>
and the module is listed as freqset.orig. if that's the wrapper for the freqset module, then the additional .orig would probably be why it's not working.
<tanonym>
the freqset.orig is a green entry in the terminal. not sure what the colour coding is. dark blue are directories, cyan are symlinks and green are binaries?
<ottidmes>
tanonym: Yeah, green generally indicates that it is executable
<infinisil>
Well whatever, I'm going to open an issue/PR later with the script, I can't finish developing it right now
<tanonym>
so the files ending in .real are the setuid-wrappers i would have to edit?
<ottidmes>
tanonym: I would expect the .real, to be the the things being wrapped, from the name at least, but I have no clue otherwise
<tanonym>
because i have a cyan bin entry and a wrappers.P******* directory.
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<tanonym>
that's what it looks like freqset.orig.real has link to a store location in it, but nothing else.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAEm4
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 113fa5e Matthew O'Gorman: found spelling errors for propagatedBuildInputs via my own mispelled grep query
<manveru>
hmm, getting desktop notifications and their icons to match seems pretty difficult
<ottidmes>
tanonym: When you look at what is actually being done: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos/blob/master/modules/security/setuid-wrappers.nix You will see that apparently setuid-wrappers is implemented by copying a special setuid-wrapper binary, that apparently uses how it is named and a corresponding name.real file to determine what to actually call
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar opened pull request #35266: cc-wrapper: fix bool handling for empty and zero values (staging...cc-bools) https://git.io/vAEmy
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<lexsomethin>
I have a strange issue, the brightness of my display changes from time to time (usually after boot or power-save mode) , i'm not sure if it affects gamma, RGB palette... it surely doesn
<lexsomethin>
t change xbacklight
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<lexsomethin>
also I have display lag where I see transparent images of previous FRAMES, like windows or boot process, etc
<lexsomethin>
anyone aware of existence of this bug and fix?
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<lexsomethin>
the issue doesn't exist on windows
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<ottidmes>
lexsomethin: To general, could be your GPU driver, your desktop environment, many things
<lexsomethin>
yeah...
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<ottidmes>
lexsomethin: So you could try a different desktop environment, see if that helps, then you will know it likely is not your GPU
<tanonym>
okay, back to the nixexpression language. i can't quite seem to wrap my head around everything that's going on there.
<tanonym>
i'll just ignore the message or use plasma5 as my default de while i try to learn how to fix this.
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<lexsomethin>
I probably could connect appearance of this issue with nixos-rebuild --upgrade . so I beleive should try upgrade again in chance of issue is fixed in new revision.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAEYs
<tanonym>
okay, i see what's going on in lines 100-104, but my current issue is that i don't seem to find the directory for the wrappers where i am expecting them by looking at setuid-wrappers.nix and clearly something isn't where my system is thinking it should be or i wouldn't be having the issues.
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<tanonym>
there is no /var/setuid-wrappers directory that's defined as the default. so either something is glitchy in the derivation for e22 or something is glitched with my build when i did the upgrade to unstable from 17.09 (i had to replace the enlightenment filemanager with something else because it would segv the de each time i tried to open a file from it.)
<lexsomethin>
also, as for nix expression language, I'm as a dum dum without CS degree, don't get clear advantages of using it instead of any other expressive scripting programming language X or Y. Is that really matter of choce, personal prefference of designer?
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<ottidmes>
tanonym: Right, sorry, you should probably check: /run/wrappers/bin
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<lexsomethin>
scripting languages like python or ruby, 1) could replace bash scripts, and that is good 2) have clear advantages of bash, multithreading, concurrency, extensibility 3) could be used in declarative & functional way, manner 4) could go imperative when necessary. ;;; But Nix could do only declarative
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<tanonym>
i think that nix is purely declarative, functional and lazy is why it was developed.
<lexsomethin>
and Nix relies on bash scripts heavily when he need to execute imperative code
<tanonym>
ottidmes, okay, i'm seein the freqset.orig and .real files there and they are pointing at the enlightenment 22 store directory.
<ottidmes>
lexsomethin: When you want to build a purely functional linux distribution, having uncontrolled imperative code is not a feature
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<lexsomethin>
odd times...
<srhb>
lexsomethin: It's all about discipline. Having no choice makes that easier. :-)
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<srhb>
In many cases, though, I agree with the bash criticism. I wish there were better shell-like systems programming alternatives that could easily integrate with, well, everything.
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<ottidmes>
tanonym: If there is question hidden in there, please tell me, I only joined the IRC after you ask your initial question, so I have no clue how to help you further :P
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<Lisanna>
from reading the Nix source code, I'm starting to get the impression that "path X does not exist and cannot be created" is Nix's "something went wrong, we're not sure what" error :(
<Ke>
srhb: to fix many things you would need to have structured output from programs, not just strings
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<tanonym>
ottidmes, i did a system upgrade to the unstable channel recently, but with e22.1 the enlightenment cpu freqset module doesn't have the correct setuid permissions, and i'm trying to find the file i need to edit to make it work properly.
<lexsomethin>
tanonym , asking you as enlighment expert, I've began use of Terminology recenty, tycat & tyls doesn't show preview for video, how to fix that?
<tanonym>
it keeps wanting me to chown and chmod u+x,a+x the freqset module.
<ottidmes>
tanonym: But, should you then not just lookup what binary does not have the right permissions and just add that to your config, why are you looking at the things being generated?
<tanonym>
that should be u+s,a+x for the module
<srhb>
Ke: And wouldn't that be great. :-)
<Ke>
sure
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<tanonym>
i'm wondering if i should replace the enlightenment store directory with the path in /run/wrappers/bin
<lexsomethin>
Lisanna if your statement correct & true, sounds like a 'must-have' issue on github for nix bug or feature request
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<Lisanna>
lexsomethin yeah... unfortunately it only reproduces when I take the most complex route through my Nix stack that I can x_x
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<tanonym>
ottidmes, not sure which binaries i am looking for. basically i'm flying blind here because i have not found much of anything online on this either. so could be i could be way off in left field with what i'm asking.
<ottidmes>
Ke: Basically, garbage in, garbage out, you can only do so much when all you get is garbage. I hate it when I have to write yet another few lines of sed/awk/grep scripts to parse some output that is never meant to be used as raw inputs
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b7e3c4e Peter Simons: multi-ghc-travis: update upstream repository URL
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAEsi
<tanonym>
lexsomethin, i don't know the answer to your question. i have never used tycat or tyls.
<lexsomethin>
tanonym ok, np
<ottidmes>
tanonym: Do you know which files need the permissions changed?
<tanonym>
the message from the de says it's enlightenment-0.22/lib/enlightenment/modules/cpufreq/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.22/freqset
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<lexsomethin>
question 1) is /nix/store/<hash> derrived from nix-expression of package (default.nix) , builder.sh, and bash imperative steps required for build and configuration?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #35142: rpm: Add Darwin support (master...master) https://git.io/vA8ES
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<lexsomethin>
question 2) if i change nix option configuration value on /etc/nixos/configuration.nix , does it change a hash of any packages, dependencies?
<tanonym>
bah, i'm a dummy, the hash in /run/wrappers/bin/freqset.orig.real is different from the hash the DE gives me in the message.
<ottidmes>
tanonym: Or do you know the name of the nixpkgs package that should contain said files? (use find or ls /nix/store | grep) Or do you know of a related binary? (use readlink $(which <binary>)), And then go inspect the folder to see what might be the related freqset thingy
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<oleks>
Hi, what would be the nixos equivalent of libc6-dev-i386 on Debian?
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<srhb>
oleks: It would be better to ask for the specific files you need. PAckages often don't have one to one analogues here.
<ottidmes>
lexsomethin: question 2) Yes and no, it could impact some derivations (packages) if they are based on the config options defined in your configuration, but those will only be defined as part of your configuration, so they should not really be considered packages, so no, normal packages, as defined in the nixpkgs repo, are not affected
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<srhb>
oleks: Especially once you're in the core build tools
<lexsomethin>
oleks , such questions could be answered by execution of "nix-locate libc.so.6" , as for real answer : glibc or glibc_multi maybe
<avn>
oleks: pkgs.pkgsi686Linux.libc, or just pkgs.pkgsi686Linux.callPackage if you need to switch to 32-bit mode for whole your package
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<tanonym>
okay, now i feel like a noodle-head. the rebuild of my system seems to have fixed it. :S
<tanonym>
the message is no longer popping up.
<tanonym>
>,<
<Guanin>
Does it work to define one set in a file, import that file and add some other stuff to that set? I'm splitting my config into different files right now and want to keep the nginx virtualHost config related to gitlab in the same file, but want to be able to add other vHosts in other places
<tanonym>
i came over to nixos because it doesn't bork my system when i experiment, and if it does the worst that happens is a reboot and select a previous generation
<lexsomethin>
sphalerite_ fish? it has man based (and history based) autocompletion & autosuggestion of all nix utils , like nixos-rebuilt --upgrade, etc, and so on. as for nix expression language, afaik only nix-repl and editor plugins have nix language support
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<sphalerite_>
lexsomethin: nope there's a completion for zsh (and bash I think?) that can complete on stuff like nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A haskellPackages.pand<TAB>
<sphalerite_>
or nix-env -iA nixos.bla<TAB>
<sphalerite_>
etc
<tanonym>
that would be handy. the build-time hash at the start makes it a little tricky to find things in /store otherwise.
<Lisanna>
sphalerite_ it doesn't really understand the Nix language though, but it does understand nested attrsets :)
<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: which is already pretty decent and extremely helpful!
<tanonym>
hmm. looks like i didn't enable man pages for nixos.
<Lisanna>
yeah, nix-zsh-completions is a pretty damn good plugin, plus the guy that maintains it is incredibly helpful and very willing to humor my weird usecases that break it :)
<sphalerite_>
I have to use nix[- ]repl so much less now, and I was so happy when it suddenly started completing this stuff
* tanonym
looks forward to the time when i have weird use-cases that break things :)
<Lisanna>
tanonym don't
<Lisanna>
the problems will make you feel worse because there's likely no one else who can help you
<tanonym>
hehe.
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<manveru>
oh wow... i didn't even realize it has completion for it :D
<manveru>
thanks amn
<manveru>
*man
<Lisanna>
literally I would not have made it halfway to where I am if the Nix community wasn't full of absolutely awesome people that put up with my nonsense...
<tanonym>
well at least no upgrade of nixos has changed my partition table from mbr to gpt which my computer can't handle and turned my machine into a paperweight until i completely reformatted the drive and reinstalled.
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<tanonym>
and that's the other reason i am using nixos. the channel is full of nice helpful and patient people.
<sphalerite_>
manveru: :D
<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: same
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<Lisanna>
I need to write a program that regularly checks my Nix code against the manual and prints warnings if I'm using anything undocumented...
<Lisanna>
"nix-bug-finder.py"
<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: also you shouldn't feel worse, you should feel like you're boldly going where nobody has ever gone before! You're a pioneer!
<Lisanna>
speaking of, I better make a cohesive statement for the IRC logs in case someone other poor sod runs across the same error:
<tanonym>
besides what's the fun if you don't come up with usecases that break things?
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<Lisanna>
HOW TO FIX "path X does not exist and cannot be created" error: check if you're using builtins.storePath, or something else strange like that.
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<tanonym>
just my luck. get my znc account approved and then the webpanel goes down with a bad gateway error
<sphalerite_>
lexsomethin: it's mostly the lack of that sort of completion and the way that curly braces are interpreted as shell syntax even if they have other non-separators around them that makes me not want to switch
<sphalerite_>
lexsomethin: I can't just do git reset @{u} for instance
<sphalerite_>
I have to write git reset "@{u}"
<Lisanna>
tanonym incidentally, nix-zsh-completions now supports Nix's strange habit of applying command-line "--arg"s across nested attrset functions
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<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: can you elaborate on this strange behaviour? Not sure i get it..
<Lisanna>
sphalerite_ let me just find the issue..
<tanonym>
I'm still learning about all the stuff I can do with configuration.nix to set up my system.
<tanonym>
system state backup in a text file, very handy.
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<ij>
source rather than a backup
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] xvapx opened pull request #35270: upgrade and clean crashplan for small business (master...wip/crashplan-small-business) https://git.io/vAE8g
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<Lisanna>
tanonym Nix on non-NixOS --> NixOS --> writing custom nix derivations --> using nixops to manage your machines --> "I need to setup hydra" --> using disnix to deploy your terrifying distributed nix-based system of doom
<Lisanna>
this is the path btw
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<ottidmes>
On the path to Nix enlightment, I am om on, maybe I should use nixops to manage my machines since I already have the concept (shared NixOS config) of "these machines are part of my network of machines"
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<LnL>
Lisanna: ok, I'll read up on disnix now
<sphalerite_>
tanonym: also it's not the state, rather the opposite :p
<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: disnix sounds kind of evil as wlel
<ottidmes>
Lisanna: So nixos = 1 machine, nixops = network of machines, dixnix = services configured using nix distributed on a network of machines?
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<manveru>
anyone know what's up with nix-bundle and $DISPLAY?
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<genesis>
Lisanna : i start to write nix derivation before being on nixos, to have what i want the D Day :P
<genesis>
i like my gentoo based, i donno if i'll switch soon, i installed this 8 years ago ...
<sphalerite_>
ottidmes: apparently disnix also supports managing non-nixy services, including stuff running on windows. I really don't understand how though
<sphalerite_>
genesis: I'd say whether you should switch depends on how much you hate systemd :p
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<etu>
One of the reasons for me switching away from gentoo was the hate for systemd in the gentoo community... :p
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAEEX
<__Sander__>
you can write your own plugins for a service as well
<__Sander__>
and that can also do "magic stuff" on other OSes, such as windows
<Lisanna>
__Sander__ does dysnomia help solve the "omg I hate stateful data so fscking much" problem?
<__Sander__>
Lisanna: it provides a solution, yes
<__Sander__>
but not the best solution per se
<__Sander__>
it works quite well with sets of data that is not too big
<Lisanna>
sounds good to me
<__Sander__>
for a production system that I'm currently maintaining we have many databases
<__Sander__>
but their sizes are roughly several tens of megabytes each
<__Sander__>
we have a couple of them that are bigger, say, a gigabyte
<__Sander__>
that is still sort of manageable
<__Sander__>
at least
<__Sander__>
if you use MongoDB
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<Lisanna>
I'd imagine that the larger amount of data you have, the more extreme the divide between solutions that are targeted at the specific application / use case and general-purpose solutions
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<Lisanna>
because general purpose solutions like dysnomia will likely start running into space issues
<Lisanna>
and you can't just be taking e.g. hourly snapshots of some 100GB binary blob
<sphalerite_>
you can with zfs!! :D
<sphalerite_>
(as long as there's not too much churn)
<Lisanna>
yeah... having a friendly filesystem also probably helps
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<genesis>
sphalerite_ : i already use it on my gentoo, i've switched and it's not so bad...
<sphalerite_>
genesis: then you should definitely switch to nixos
<genesis>
i read some of you about bootup and filesystem etc, i prefer wait a bit :)
<infinisil>
seequ: no idea, I'd say just "ntfs", try autogenerating it?
<Lisanna>
omg... I just thought of a way to write a function which detects if a derivation has been built or not
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<infinisil>
seequ: ah you need to mount it to autogen it haha
<infinisil>
seequ: just "ntfs" should be fine. this option i mentioned will add ntfs-3g to system.fsPackages
<Lisanna>
oh wait... no I didn't ):
<infinisil>
so the "clean" way would be: set option, rebuild, mount ntfs filesystem and see if it works, nixos-generate-config to make it persist, rebuild
<Lisanna>
this returns true if drv has already been built locally, and false if it hasn't yet
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<infinisil>
well that is certainly impure, but nice!
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<Lisanna>
infinisil sure, but I figure that asking that question in the first place is already impure, so :p
<Lisanna>
the answer likely has to also be impure
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<infinisil>
Yeah
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<Lisanna>
anyways, that can be useful for testing, if you want to e.g. generate a report of "pass/fail/not run yet" status of tests, without causing your query to kick all of them off
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<dtz>
Gooooood morning, folks!
<__Sander__>
hmm there is no decent way to perform a single-user Nix installation on darwin anymore?
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<Lisanna>
dtz good morning ^^
<Lisanna>
ugh is it morning already? so much for sleep...
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<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: also won't work correctly when using stores other than /
<Lisanna>
sphalerite_ you mean substitutions?
<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: no, I mean --store /mnt/sd
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] rbvermaa pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAEX0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master c7fa2c2 Rob Vermaas: PyGithub: update to 1.3.6
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<Lisanna>
hmm, why not?
<sphalerite_>
Lisanna: that will cause it to be built as if it were chrooted to /mnt/sd, so it will go into /mnt/sd/nix/store rather than /nix-store
<sphalerite_>
or rather, Ithink it actually* does* chroot. But at build time, not at evaluation time.
<Lisanna>
ohh, ok
<sphalerite_>
although IFD probably generally won't work with it anyway I think
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<Lisanna>
what would you use IFD with this for?
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<sphalerite_>
well that thing looks to be in the same domain as IFD to me :)
<sphalerite_>
it isn't technically IFD but it's very much going in that direction
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<Lisanna>
I was originally thinking that the solution was going to require IFD, but was pleasantly surprised when it didn't :)
<steveeJ>
I'm trying to install the guard ruby gem. the installation fails cause it can't find libtool. I've installed autoconf, automake, libtool and ruby in my user environment. what am I missing?
<lexpessimistic>
oh it is documented in OS manual page.... I didn't expected to find it there
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<lexpessimistic>
gchristensen, okay, thank you
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<TweyII>
I've built an OpenGL application using Nix on a non-NixOS system. It seems that the OpenGL pulled in by mesa_noglu doesn't support OpenGL ES 3.0, which this application needs. The system OpenGL (in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so) does, but setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to this breaks things because it's linked against the system libc, which is older than the nixpkgs glibc and thus doesn't have some of
<TweyII>
the symbols the compiled application expects
<TweyII>
Is there a well-known solution to this? Why doesn't the mesa_noglu support OpenGL ES 3.0 in the first place if the system OpenGL (also Mesa/Intel) does?
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<maurer>
Hey, libclang.so seems to be missing from clang-5.0.1/lib/clang/5.0.1/
<maurer>
Any ideas on how to get it back? only the static libraries are present now
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<dtz>
you want the "lib" output
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #35236: strace: disable mpers (multiple personality) support on aarch64 to fix (master...experimental/strace-no-mpers) https://git.io/vA03T
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<maurer>
dtz: I'll check that - out of curiosity though, why did the static libraries not get split out?
<maurer>
dtz: Dyn libraries might be needed at runtime, but static never are, so I'd expect either all of them to get split to lib, or only the statics, not only the dynamics
<clever>
dtz: i dont see a lib output
<maurer>
clever: there is a lib output on my system, and it has libclang.so
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<maurer>
Once I realized to look there, I was mostly just quibbling with where the boundary between lib and not-lib was drawn
<clever>
nix-repl> clang.lib
<clever>
error: attribute ‘lib’ missing, at (string):1:1
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAExR
<dtz>
\o/
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<gchristensen>
way to go!
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] rdanitz opened pull request #35276: perl-iCal-Parser: init at 1.21 (master...feat/perl/ical-parser) https://git.io/vAEhg
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<TweyII>
sphalerite_: What does ‘probably would on NixOS’ mean? What determines whether it does or doesn't?
<Mic92>
sphalerite_: have they worked on improving ipfs's performance or do they just burn there vc funding on marketing?
<sphalerite_>
TweyII: opengl on non-nixos linux distros with nix is just generally painful. I don't know the exact details (I run nixos on most of my machines) but I've often seen questions on here about it and they were rarely answered satisfactorily
<sphalerite_>
Mic92: I have no idea, I'm just hoping that one day it'll be usable
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] suvash opened pull request #35277: Update Mozilla sops to the latest version (master...update-mozilla-sops) https://git.io/vAEjw
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<sondr3>
Hello, I’m about to try out NixOS on my computer, I currently have a Arch install that I’m going to install over, but I want to keep my /home/ intact, I’ve looked at the configuration and seen that I can create a new user from that but I’m worried it might override /home/. Is there a way to let Nix know that I want to keep the existing /home partition?
<clever>
sondr3: it wont delete anything from /home
<sondr3>
But if I declare a new user in the configuration file and give that user a home directory that maps directly to the one already existing it will just use it instead of overriding it?
<clever>
sondr3: yeah
<clever>
sondr3: it wont even try to fix the uid, so you may lack access to your own home directory
<sondr3>
Alright, sweet, thanks :)
<clever>
sondr3: but you can set a uid = 1001; in the configuration.nix to prevent that
<sondr3>
Awesome, thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a3e9f49 Sam Parkinson: spice-up: 1.2.1 -> 1.3.2
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAuer
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 230282f Jan Tojnar: Merge pull request #35261 from samdroid-apps/spice-up-1.3.2...
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<maurer>
So, I've hooked up to my monitors again, while xrandr has successfully added them, set resolutions, etc, and I can move my mouse to them, xmonad does not recognize them.
<maurer>
Any ideas?
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<maurer>
(It registered them maybe two months ago, the last time I did this same thing, but I've taken a lot of updates since then)
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<maurer>
Nvm, have received help from the #xmonad channel - if someone else is reading this in logs, we've updated to xmonad 0.13 which has a bug where it keeps xmonad.state around when it shouldn't
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<maurer>
If you encounter this issue, mod-shift-q to kill your session, log in on a console and delete the file, then log in again, the problem will resolve itself
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<chreekat>
Now that I understand I can only use ssh-substituters when running nix commands as root, I would like to know, can this restriction be lifted? And secondly, can it be configured per-package? Say I want to have my team use a certain substituter for our project -- I don't want to force the setting at a system-wide level.
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<clever>
chreekat: i think it has to be configured in /etc/nix/nix.conf for all users to benefit from it
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<chreekat>
clever: ok, indeed that makes sense. That leaves the second question. Oh, I'm remembering more details now:
<chreekat>
A "nix-serve" binary substituter can be used per-project via env vars, but the substituter still has to be listed as 'trusted' by root
<chreekat>
I suppose the same is true for ssh-substituters, and maybe even the same method works (?)
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<mt_caret_>
I've been working on packaging a project that is pre-release (i.e. does not have a version number), should I just use "0.0.1" for the version attribute?
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<gchristensen>
usually we'd use the date it was updated , like 20180221
<clever>
chreekat: i dont think ssh-substituters has a trusted variant
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<mt_caret_>
gchristensen: ah, that makes sense, thanks!
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<clever>
chreekat: you can also just add the nix-serve thing to the binary-caches config, and it will just always use the cache
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<gchristensen>
jtojnar: were you able to reproduce or not reproduce that test failure locally via nix-build?
<Myrl-saki>
Is there declarative "bindings" for rust?
<Myrl-saki>
Like, haskellPackages
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAuTA
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ac64f9c Johannes Frankenau: snapraid: 11.1 -> 11.2
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAuLk
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #35277: Update Mozilla sops to the latest version (master...update-mozilla-sops) https://git.io/vAEjw
<Myrl-saki>
simpson: I'm pretty high on "disappointed" :(
<Myrl-saki>
Oh wait, there's pocl which is LLVM-based, so CPU.
<Myrl-saki>
Not in NixOS, though.
<simpson>
Myrl-saki: Yep, join the club; we've been disappointed in CL ever since its announcement. Basically no GPU vendor wants to *actually* standardize, so they're having a stupid Balkanized standoff.
<Myrl-saki>
I'll just go Beignet.
<jtojnar>
gchristensen: should I just ignore the failure, or report it upstream to see if they can guess something?
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<Myrl-saki>
simpson: Thanks.
<gchristensen>
jtojnar: hmm if you can hang tight another hour or two, I'll do some debugging
<Myrl-saki>
Oh yeah.
<jtojnar>
gchristensen: okay, thanks
<Myrl-saki>
Is there an "append" parameter to nixpkgs?
<Myrl-saki>
Err, that doesn't sound correct.
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<Myrl-saki>
Basically, I want to have a development nixpkgs, which is just nixpkgs + some local things. Any idea?
<LnL>
that will give you a working clang environment on all platforms
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<Myrl-saki>
Could not find LTDL library!
<Myrl-saki>
CMake
<Myrl-saki>
Oh, libtool.
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<Myrl-saki>
C_LIBFILE_clangAST
<Myrl-saki>
How do I get that?
<Myrl-saki>
I think that's part of libclang?
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<Myrl-saki>
sphalerite_: What's your idea for the overlay?
<sphalerite_>
Myrl-saki: an overlay is a function that takes nixpkgs and returns nixpkgs + some other stuff. That sounds like what you're asking for to me.
<sphalerite_>
or rather returns some other stuff, to turn nixpkgs into nixpkgs + some other stuff
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<Myrl-saki>
Wait,
<Myrl-saki>
sphalerite_: I do have an overlay, but I'm not sure if this is what you'd consider as a good thing TM.
<Myrl-saki>
sphalerite_: Ohh, it's not strictly an overlay. I see.
<sphalerite_>
packageOverrides is the predecessor of overlays
<Myrl-saki>
LnL: Are you busy?
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<LnL>
I’m going home right now, I’ll be back in half an hour
<Myrl-saki>
LnL: Sure no prob.
<Myrl-saki>
LnL: Thanks for the help again.
<Myrl-saki>
Are libtool and pkgconfig the same?
<Myrl-saki>
Err
<Myrl-saki>
Do they have the same use*
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<Myrl-saki>
Yeah, that was a stupid question. Ignore that.
<mt_caret_>
A package I'm trying to build tells me that it can't find <gnu/stubs-32.h>, which I guess means that I need to pull in glibc for 32bit arch. can anybody point me in the right direction?
<Myrl-saki>
pkg-config doesn't know about clang though. :(
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] markus1189 opened pull request #35280: Logkeys: Update and add `device` option to service (master...logkeys) https://git.io/vAu3w
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<clever>
mt_caret_: is the package doing a 32bit only build, or a mixed 32/64 build?
<gchristensen>
wow! another job posting to the ML!
<gchristensen>
I can't _wait_ for these to be frequent enough to be spam :D
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<mt_caret_>
clever: I think it's a 32bit only build (https://github.com/janestreet/re2) ttps://gist.github.com/mt-caret/febfa75f2d75a70da0a1f955c4b85043
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<clever>
mt_caret_: pkgsi686Linux will give you 32bit versions of everything
<clever>
so just load it with pkgsi686Linux.callPackage and it should work
<mt_caret_>
clever: will try, thanks!
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<Myrl-saki>
How do I figure out if the script I'm using is build kcalled?
<clever>
mt_caret_: add an echo to the script?
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<Myrl-saki>
llvm-config doesn't seem to check for clang.
<Myrl-saki>
Nor does pkgconfig.
<Myrl-saki>
17.09, if that's relevant.
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<Myrl-saki>
Wait, how do I make it so that .nix files won't intercept ${}?
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<gchristensen>
put two single quotes in front of the dollar sign, like ''${...}
<Myrl-saki>
gchristensen: Thanks.
<gchristensen>
yep!
<Myrl-saki>
This is actually kinda funny. Someone's actually working on the nix-mode of emacs.
<gchristensen>
oh?
<Myrl-saki>
gchristensen: IIRC, back then nix-mode's multi-line string was broken, so a single '' would make everything below it green.
<gchristensen>
nice
<Myrl-saki>
Oh cool. There's also finally nix-shell for Emacs. Yaaay.
<gchristensen>
nix-buffer?
<Myrl-saki>
gchristensen: Yeah.
<Myrl-saki>
Turns out that that's actually not too recent. Hmm.
<gchristensen>
the nix ecosystem is growing up *wipes a teardrop away*
<Myrl-saki>
gchristensen: Hahaha
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<razzy>
I am still missing p9 resource sharing in nixOS :]
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<razzy>
or am I wrong?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAuZ7
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 09ee377 Michael Weiss: pythonPackages.mysql-connector: init at 8.0.6
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] svsdep opened pull request #35281: gnomeExtensions.no-title-bar: init at 8 (master...gnomeExtensions-no-title-bar) https://git.io/vAun4
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #35282: ocamlPackages.cil: fix build on Darwin (master...ocaml-cil-darwin) https://git.io/vAun9
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<sphalerite_>
is there a way in bash to kill all jobs at once?
<sphalerite_>
I may have launched… a few too many
<gchristensen>
"all at once" like atomically, or quickly?
<sphalerite_>
quickly
<sphalerite_>
:D
* gchristensen
doesn't know
<sphalerite_>
actually since they were all ping, I realised I could do pkill ping. But a general solution affecting only the current shell's jobs would still eb nice to have
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<Myrl-saki>
You know what
<Myrl-saki>
In the end, I just patched the CMakeLists.txt.
<Myrl-saki>
lol
<Myrl-saki>
Don't know why I had to make it so complicated.
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<seequ>
does the installer not support rotating the display?
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<gchristensen>
LnL: don't you have a fancy-pants thing to run a postgres server inside a derivation?
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<seequ>
I have a vertical monitor, so this is a bit of a pain. :s
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<Myrl-saki>
seequ: Tilt the monitor. :3
<seequ>
Oh, I didn't realize it has sshd!
<seequ>
whee
<clever>
seequ: the installer has an sshd, and i think root login is enabled, but auto-start is off
<clever>
so you have to passwd and systemctl start sshd
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<seequ>
yup
<LnL>
gchristensen: maybe...
<Myrl-saki>
file cannot create directory: /var/empty/local/lib64/pkgconfig. Maybe need
<Myrl-saki>
administrative privileges.
<Mic92>
seequ: if you have nix, you can build your own install image easily with embedded ssh keys
<Myrl-saki>
Okay, this is stupid.
<Myrl-saki>
What should I do?
<Myrl-saki>
I guess cmake has an install location?
<Myrl-saki>
`${out}`, as install prefix, right?
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: usually this should just works. Probably your project has a custom hack in it.
<clever>
Myrl-saki: yeah
<LnL>
that means it's probably trying to install to ~
<clever>
Myrl-saki: darwin or nixos?
<Myrl-saki>
Mic92: It's my fault. I called cmake myself, because I needed to specify -Ds.
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: cmakeFlags is your friend.
<Myrl-saki>
Mic92: Gah.
<Myrl-saki>
Thanks.
<Yaniel>
(unless you need $CWD or $out)
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: nixpkgs contains couple of examples.
<seequ>
If I'm upgrading from 17.03 -> 17.09, can I just run the config generator and nixos-install without formatting?
<clever>
seequ: you could even just boot it normally, nix-channel --add the right url, and nixos-rebuild switch
<Myrl-saki>
How many people enable parallelBuilding in their packages?
<clever>
Myrl-saki: i always enable it
<Mic92>
for some packages it does not matter, if they are small
<Myrl-saki>
Mkay. Thanks. I was wondering why it wasn't default.
<seequ>
clever: the state version hasn't been bumped?
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: because some build systems are broken
<clever>
seequ: it must not be bumped
<clever>
seequ: changing it defeats the entire point of having it
<seequ>
clever: I meant in 17.09
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: an incorrect written Makefile can produce incorrect result if run in parallel
<Myrl-saki>
Thanks everyone. Works now. After literally hours. Haha.
<clever>
seequ: the stateVersion must always be set to the version you originally installed with
<clever>
Myrl-saki: when you put cmake into the buildInputs, the stdenv will source this script
<clever>
Myrl-saki: which mutates the defaults in the stdenv
<Myrl-saki>
I believe it's a bad idea to have configuration.nix refer to /?
<Myrl-saki>
Err
<Myrl-saki>
${HOME}
<seequ>
clever: right,, but I'm installing clean now - which I thought would be necessary to get the latest features, whatever they might be
<clever>
seequ: you dont have to clean install to get new features
<Myrl-saki>
Or can I trust in nix to be safe enough?
<clever>
seequ: just change the channel with the nix-channel command, and nixos-rebuild to update it
<seequ>
I've been on unstable anyways :D
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<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: I do that.
<Mic92>
my configuration.nix is in my dotfiles repo
<seequ>
so.. there's no benefit to be had from getting 17.09 base?
<Mic92>
or what do you mean exactly?
<Myrl-saki>
Mic92: I'm thinking that it could be a vector of attack to gain root.
<clever>
seequ: switching from unstable to 17.07 will probably downgrade some things
<Myrl-saki>
Mic92: but at the same time, I'm thinking nix might be safe enough that that won't happen.
<seequ>
clever: the idea was to install 17.09 with unstable channel
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: there is a strict evaluation mode, where no files outside the nix path are allowed to be included.
<clever>
Mic92: what Myrl-saki said, somebody could add an extra user with wheel perms in your config files in $HOME, and next time you nixos-rebuild, they get a free user with admin
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<clever>
seequ: you always get the version in the channel, stateVersion doesnt control what version you get
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<Myrl-saki>
clever: My use-case in this case is just a packageOverride, but yeah, that's an example too.
<seequ>
clever: but it controls things nix does internally - hasn't there been any improvements there?
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<clever>
Myrl-saki: i could put in a malicious packageOverride to sudo or ping, both of which have setuid root
<Myrl-saki>
clever: packageOverrides can sudo??
<Myrl-saki>
Err, rather
<Myrl-saki>
Packages can sudo?
<clever>
seequ: the only thing stateVersion does, is adjust what version of something like postgresql you get, to make sure you dont break the on-disk state
<clever>
Myrl-saki: the packages cant sudo, but the packageOverrides can define a new version of sudo
<Myrl-saki>
clever: Ohh
<clever>
Myrl-saki: and if configuration.nix obeys those overrides, it becomes the global sudo that actually has perms
<Mic92>
Myrl-saki: no, there is a wrapper outside of nix store, that set setuid
<toogley>
that doesn't seem to be my configuration.nix
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<clever>
toogley: nixpkgs on its own, will load ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix for overrides
<clever>
toogley: but the nixpkgs inside configuration.nix, obeys the nixpkgs.config attribute in your configuration.nix
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<toogley>
clever: so i have to re-use the path nixpkgs/config.nix so that it can be found? i can't do that in configuration.nix ?
<clever>
toogley: you could do nixpkgs.config = import /home/clever/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix; to reload the same overrides in nixos
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<toogley>
clever: ah, okay
<toogley>
another question: am i correct, that i can only replace openssl by libressl in a specific package, but not in all packages i've installed via configuration.nix ?
<clever>
toogley: if you do openssl = pkgs.libressl;, it will affect every single package that uses openssl
<clever>
but if you do foo = pkgs.foo.override { openssl = pkgs;libressl; };
<lexcurious>
I would like refer B variable insite LET block, how I can do this? code : let c = if b == "b" then "c" else 3; in rec { a = 0; b = if a == 1 then 2 else "b"; }
<seequ>
lexcurious: define a and b in the let
<lexcurious>
seequ I don't want to define them in let, they are defined in { } set. I would like to bring set name space to the let, recursively. is that possible in this language?
<Myrl-saki>
I think I did something wrong. /nix/store/v8a36bqymwlysbsi5nq5n15b2ivqi6qr-pocl/nix/store/v8a36bqymwlysbsi5nq5n15b2ivqi6qr-pocl/include/CL
<Myrl-saki>
It might not be obvious though!
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<lexcurious>
ok i changed my code to let makeDecisionForC = b: if b == "b" then "c" else 3; in rec { a = 1; b = if a == 1 then 2 else "b"; c = makeDecisionForC b; } works fine for me
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<wervenyt[m]>
so adding _2bwm to my system packages just tells me it doesn't evaluate to a derivation, I'm not sure I fully understand how I'd work around that
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<Myrl-saki>
How do I add to icd locations?
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<johnw>
wervenyt[m]: can you show the full error message in a paste?
<Myrl-saki>
Ugh.
<astralemp>
http://lpaste.net/362759 <-- trying to add hfmt to my ghc nix-shell (`tools = ghc: [ghc.hfmt];' in default.nix) and the build fails. the error message is cryptic but it sounds like I'm missing c-libraries?
<yorick>
where's the pam rule that makes /run/user/$(id -u)/?
<Myrl-saki>
How do I change my /etc?
<Myrl-saki>
Oh, enviconment.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh force-pushed python-unstable from ae66b64 to 19ac9d1: https://git.io/v5aIf
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/python-unstable e9fa4c1 Robert Schütz: pythonPackages.binaryornot: 0.4.0 -> 0.4.4
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/python-unstable 62cc498 Robert Schütz: pythonPackages.bibtexparser: add propagatedBuildInputs
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/python-unstable 5ab396a Robert Schütz: pythonPackages.bibtexparser: enable tests
<yorick>
ok, pam_systemd.so does it
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<Myrl-saki>
Wait, how do I write to /run?
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<symphorien>
what do you want to do with /run ?
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<wervenyt[m]>
johnw: when I specify it in configuration.nix, I get "error: The option value `environment.systemPackages.[definition 37-entry 14]' in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' is not of type `package'", where definition 37-entry 14 is _2bwm
<wervenyt[m]>
johnw: if I try to run nix-build in the nixpkgs directory, it returns that it does not evaluate to a derivation or a set or list of those
<johnw>
sounds like _2bwm isn't what you think it is
<clever>
toogley: config.nix shouldnt be asking for params like that, its not a module
<clever>
and your being passed pkgs on line 3, so dont ask for any params at all
<clever>
wait
<clever>
none of that belongs in config.nix, lol
<clever>
that content only works in configuration.nix or another nixos module
<toogley>
i'm confused
<toogley>
oh, okay
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #35270: upgrade and clean crashplan for small business (master...wip/crashplan-small-business) https://git.io/vAE8g
* aristid
mumbles something about firefox requiring pulseaudio now but my PR to enable pulseaudio in nixos by default being whined to death
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<gchristensen>
aristid: oh yeah, man, that is very annoying
<aristid>
gchristensen: which part? :>
<gchristensen>
the whole situation around pulseaudio
<gchristensen>
like, all of it
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #35285: racket-minimal: build on darwin (master...racket-darwin) https://git.io/vAuBo
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<aristid>
gchristensen: i don't even know why firefox requires pulseaudio now *shrug*
<gchristensen>
because upstream dictates pulseaudio
<toogley>
did i miss something? i have " nixpkgs.config.packageOverrides = super: config: { openssl = super.libressl; };" in my configuration.nix and after building it, an error "set expected, function given" or so arises. i'm confused, because that part is not much different than my model https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42697444/override-python27packages-bepasty-server#42698839
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #35282: ocamlPackages.cil: fix build on Darwin (master...ocaml-cil-darwin) https://git.io/vAun9
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<clever>
toogley: packageOverrides is a function that expects only 1 argument
<clever>
toogley: oops, my example gist carried over that mistake
<aristid>
gchristensen: i guess upstream was annoyed with supporting too many audio stacks? :D
<gchristensen>
oeu
<gchristensen>
oops
<toogley>
clever: but when i remove config: i get a infinite recursion
<toogley>
i think
<toogley>
yep
<clever>
toogley: can you gist the files you have?
<toogley>
i have only " nixpkgs.config.packageOverrides = pkgs: { openssl = pkgs.libressl; };" in my configuration.nix i don't have a config.nix at this point
<clever>
toogley: oh, i think i know why
<clever>
toogley: curl uses openssl, and nearly everything needs curl to download its src
<toogley>
and configuration.nix builds prperly when i remove that
<wervenyt[m]>
Firefox requires pulseaudio because something like <2% of users use bare alsa and nobody is volunteering to maintain the interface
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<aristid>
wervenyt[m]: why does nixos then still default to bare alsa? :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/pulseaudio-by-default 7de4990 Aristid Breitkreuz: only enable pulseaudio by default if alsa is also enabled
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] aristidb force-pushed pulseaudio-by-default from ed695b4 to 7de4990: https://git.io/vAurZ
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/pulseaudio-by-default ff2c87a Aristid Breitkreuz: pulseaudio: enable by default in NixOS
<wervenyt[m]>
probably because nixos isn't necessarily desktop-oriented
<wervenyt[m]>
I don't know any more than thay
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] aristidb opened pull request #35292: Pulseaudio by default, if sound is enabled (master...pulseaudio-by-default) https://git.io/vAur1
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<aristid>
wervenyt[m]: well, _i_ use it on desktop :)
<clever>
same
<aristid>
and there you have my new old pull request
<clever>
i use nixos on every machine i have installed since discovering nixos
<aristid>
you might notice that the commits are from september 2017 :D
<clever>
2 laptops, 1 desktop, router, nas, and several servers
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<seequ>
Uh, is there a way to get grub to pass the LUKS password to nixos?
<wervenyt[m]>
can you not install pulseaudio?
<clever>
i use pulseaudio on all of my desktop systems
<wervenyt[m]>
So then what's the problem? Its not there as a default because servers and such, but it's not hard to set up for desktop
<clever>
firefox linking against PA will pull it in as a dependency, even when the user isnt using it
<clever>
which may count as bloat
<coconnor>
while not difficult, I don't think the default pulseaudio config is sufficient for enable by default
<joko>
Hello, could anyone help me with importing nix files from a package? Using a package's outPath is not working in the newest nix
<wervenyt[m]>
fair, but that doesn't imply pulseaudio should be default
<coconnor>
agreed!
<joko>
sphalerite_: I couldn't make it
<aristid>
it should be default if sound is enabled.
<wervenyt[m]>
What if you don't want it and don't use Firefox?
<coconnor>
aye. The option should be to tune the chosen implementation. Which should include "alsa direct"
<aristid>
wervenyt[m]: then you disable the option.
<coconnor>
I'd like to see a enable/disable plus sound implementation enum.
<wervenyt[m]>
I can't help but feel that minimum should be default
<aristid>
wervenyt[m]: not if that means things don't work properly by default
<aristid>
"my firefox does not have found" is not an acceptable default situation IMHO
<wervenyt[m]>
But beyond that level of preference, there's no real argument either way
<wervenyt[m]>
But if Firefox requires it, add it as a dependency
<aristid>
firefox is a package
<joko>
hydra-eval-jobs is also not working from my workstation (from nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A hydra) due to that
<aristid>
it cannot depend on nixos options
<seequ>
make firefox an option :⁾
<aristid>
firefox already depends on the pulseaudio package, but it cannot depend on the nixos option
<wervenyt[m]>
Ah, yeah
<coconnor>
IMO that should be weakened
<wervenyt[m]>
Nixos requires manual specification of most things, I don't think requiring manual specification of this is a crime
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<aristid>
i think it is
<aristid>
because it has a default
<aristid>
if it was an option that you're forced to set or you get an evaluation error, fine
<aristid>
but now you just get breakage
<aristid>
by default
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<aristid>
and it pisses me off that self-declared minimalists fight every step of the way towards improved user experience
<wervenyt[m]>
it's not default, it's firefox
<aristid>
i'm talking about the nixos option, not firefox.
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<aristid>
firefox is the justification for finally enabling it by default
<wervenyt[m]>
nixos, by default, doesn't even make you create a non root user
<wervenyt[m]>
it's inconsistent to act like setting an option is some affront when the rest of the system is pretty lean by default
<wervenyt[m]>
Firefox is not installed by default
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<aristid>
well, let's just see with this newest pull request
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<aristid>
i mean technically i could just merge it myself :D - but that would be impolite
<wervenyt[m]>
I use pulseaudio, I'm fine if it becomes default
<wervenyt[m]>
the making it default feels unnecessary to me
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<maurer>
Since it's a defaulting, it's not really to do anything to existing systems - it's to make it so that when a new person installs nixos, they aren't in here 10 minutes later saying "only some programs play sound"
<maurer>
While as a person who likes odd configurations, it's important to be able to disable it, defaults are about the 99% case
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<gchristensen>
wervenyt[m]: it doesn't?
<wervenyt[m]>
What doesn't?
<samueldr>
it's suggested in the default configuration.nix
<samueldr>
(non-root user)
<gchristensen>
oh *non* root user
<gchristensen>
I thought there was some weird way to end up with a system w/out a _root_ user
<samueldr>
though, I'd like to see a user without root user
<samueldr>
system*
<wervenyt[m]>
Oh, that would be confusing yeah
<maurer>
I mean, not having a root user isn't hard after installation, it'll just be very tricky to do some things
<samueldr>
:)
<coconnor>
what about defaulted when a desktop is enabled?
<wervenyt[m]>
didn't Ubuntu at least not ask for root password in the past?
<maurer>
coconnor: It's already only when sound is enabled - why wait for desktop too?
<wervenyt[m]>
So using sudo was necessary
<maurer>
wervenyt[m]: That's different - there's a passwd entry for root, it's just that shadow has no password for it
<maurer>
so you can't authenticate, but tons of things can act as it
<maurer>
Actually having no root is tricky because init wants to be uid 0
<gchristensen>
yeah
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<maurer>
So if you want to do that, you need to burn systemd like the turd it is
<samueldr>
can the EUID of a process not have a /etc/passwd or relevant auth. mechanism entry?
<maurer>
and then do a bunch of black magic with capabilities
<wervenyt[m]>
I mean, how often will you be using pulse-only cli programs?
<wervenyt[m]>
And, I know. I was just considering if it's ever done other than out of curiosity
<wervenyt[m]>
I can't think of a cli sound-producing program which doesn't work with alsa
<maurer>
wervenyt[m]: So, counterpoint - I have systems with a graphical subsystem but which should not have pulse because they are servers
<maurer>
So you could argue "desktop + sound" -> pulse, but that's starting to get a little black magicky
<clever>
dash: i just run ${electron}/bin/electron against the dir with package.json
<clever>
dash: i have recently noticed that discord patchelf's the discord supplied electron, and now the file-browse dialog is significantly older and lacking of features
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<clever>
dash: this downloads an electron based darwin app, extracts the javascript code, then generates a nix package that runs it under nixpkgs electron
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<dash>
I'm already just using npm manually, i'll just throw together a shell.nix that gets me halfway there
<clever>
dash: yeah, getting the npm built under nix is still a tricky part
<Mic92>
FRidh: do you want to continue review nixos/jupyter, or should someone else go ahead?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] lejonet opened pull request #35299: nixos/ceph: Add a service module that enables the configuration of ceph through nixos (master...ceph) https://git.io/vAu9j
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<lejonet>
Mic92: awesome that you merged PR #33894 just 5h ago, my PR depends on it :D
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<Mic92>
lejonet: would it be possible to also add a test?
<Mic92>
ceph is a quite complex beast
<Mic92>
and not many people know how it works
<lejonet>
Mic92: it is indeed, I just don't really know what test would be representative
<Mic92>
lejonet: just some simple, smoke tests that can serve as an example how a cluster could look like and checks if all daemons can be started
<lejonet>
Mic92: sure thing, will look up the test harness used and just use the cluster I'm running now as a reference
<lejonet>
Its really a bare minimum cluster so probably a good start point
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<lejonet>
Mic92: I'll have to submit a PR that add some nixos specific things to #33894 firstly tho, it needs some packages added to the python-env, and I still haven't found a way to make it include its own python modules in that python-env (or else the ceph script fails to work, I've managed to solve it by adding the relevant packages to the python-env used in buildInputs and setting pythonpath properly)
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<Mic92>
lejonet: I think the ceph executable might be still wrapped incorrectly. It should brings its own wrapper that sets PYTHONPATH
<Mic92>
ah it does something like that
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<dtz>
we have surprisingly few tests for services/etc considering how absolutely magical the infrastructure we have for writing/orchestrating that sort of thing
<dtz>
i suppose that comment is like 90% "wow I love the NixOS test infrastructure everything should use it, EVERYTHING!" and only 10% actual suggestion for change
<dtz>
lol
<Mic92>
System tests don't cry enough, for attention when their packages gets updated.
<lejonet>
Mic92: yeah, the ceph executable is just a python script, but yeah, it needs to set pythonpath to ${ceph.out}/lib/python2.7/site-packages outside of adding 3-4 packages to the initial python-env used, to be usable
<dtz>
Mic92: agreed! Was surprised to find a number aren't even part of a jobset (definitely not the release one, but I don't think part of *any*)
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<lejonet>
Mic92: I've just not found a easy way to give the executables that need that pythonpath set, that pythonpath
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<Mic92>
lejonet: this is usually done automatically by adding python libraries to propagatedBuildInputs and then using the `wrapPythonPrograms` shell function
<lejonet>
Mic92: does the propagatedBuildInputs add stuff to the executables the package itself creates?
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<Mic92>
lejonet: yes, python is a special case.
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<Mic92>
lejonet: just checkout any example that uses `wrapPythonPrograms` in nixpkgs
<lejonet>
Mic92: so I could add stuff there instead of adding the packages to ceph-python-env (that is defined at line 88 in the commit in 33894)? And in there I could add ceph.out and it would add the packages own modules to that python-env?
<Mic92>
lejonet: let me check, this might end up in recursion.
<lejonet>
Mic92: Because I have no problem adding the actually third-party stuff to ceph-python-env var, its the modules own modules that I haven't found a neat way of automatically add to this python-env or some other way that makes the executables aware of em
<lejonet>
well, apart from manually setting PYTHONPATH to the right path in the shell I ran the executables in... :P
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<lejonet>
I need to head to bed now but I'll definitively take a closer look at the tests and wrapPythonPrograms tomorrow
<sphalerite_>
Sonarpulse: hey, I'm doing some stuff that isn't strictly speaking cross-compilation (building armv7 stuff natively on an aarch64 machine) but looks similar enough to it to fool many a configure script
<Sonarpulse>
sphalerite_: oh can you run armv7 on aarch64?
<sphalerite_>
Sonarpulse: yes, but it depends on the CPU
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 49c190c Peter Simons: Merge pull request #35300 from deepfire/ghc-8.4...
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<Sonarpulse>
sphalerite_: in a meeting but will check
<Sonarpulse>
I do want to pass --build and --host in all cases
<sphalerite_>
and also, I'm encountering some issues where autotools decides to prefix the names of build tools with the platform tuple because it thinks we're sort of cross building since the platforms were specified "by the user", but then the install part doesn't take the name change into account and can't find the stuff it's suppose to install. Super smart…
<gchristensen>
ruh roh, autorandr just randomly started to work ...
<sphalerite_>
yeah I saw that in the comment, just that it will confuse non-autotools configure scripts… :/
<sphalerite_>
But yeah, maybe you have an idea on how to solve this prefixing problem in a general way? I've solved it on a case-by-case basis by passing --program-prefix= to configure, but it'll be a bit of a fiddle to do that for all of them
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<Sonarpulse>
sphalerite_: I want to prefix in all cases
<Sonarpulse>
also solves the problem :)
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<sphalerite_>
Not really, from an end-user perspective
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<sphalerite_>
This affects audit too for instance
<sphalerite_>
or would you be prefixing really everything, even applications?
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<sphalerite_>
if so, how would that work from a user's perspective?
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<jtojnar>
gchristensen: just had it fail on autobuild https://logs.nix.ci/?key=nixos/nixpkgs.35065&attempt_id=9b8d0fba-d26e-4069-b48b-1661fed8a1e0
<gchristensen>
ack, so it is something about the host for sure then?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAub6
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master bbbd9de Tim Steinbach: linux-common: Add CFS_BANDWIDTH...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 09cc887 Tim Steinbach: Merge pull request #35043 from NeQuissimus/cfs_bandwidth...
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<gchristensen>
"GPG signing a Debian package does nothing because package signatures are not verified by default on any major distribution when packages are installed with apt-get install" WOW
<LnL>
lol
<LnL>
I had to download a random deb over http last time I wanted to upgrade a kernel on ubuntu
<sphalerite_>
gchristensen: who made that up?
<nkaretnikov>
What? Isn’t the archive signed?
<jtojnar>
aren't the repo indexes signed?
<sphalerite_>
^
<LnL>
nkaretnikov: I think the Package index is signed
<nkaretnikov>
Right, and it contains hashes.
<gchristensen>
"When APT software (such as apt-get, or reprepro) or folks offering APT repositories mention GPG signatures in their documentation they are typically referring to GPG signatures on repository metadata, not on packages themselves."
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<triangles>
I'm currently trying to use a NixOS overlay, but it doesn't work. I have `nix.nixPath = options.nix.nixPath.default ++ [ "nixpkgs-overlays=/etc/nixos/overlays" ];` in my configuration.nix. I can't use the rust overlay from github.com/mozilla/nixpkgs-mozilla (I symlinked rust-overlay.nix to /etc/nixos/overlays) though, since I can't find the the variable I should use. `nix-shell -p nixos.latest.rustChannels.nightly.rust` isn't workin
<sphalerite_>
triangles: take out the ".latest" and it should work
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<sphalerite_>
where did you get the .latest from?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vAupX
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 24e2d76 Vladimír Čunát: Merge #35120: meson: print failed test logs
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 40eadf9 Jan Tojnar: meson: print failed test logs