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<LnL> that's "a" in that case?
<dhess> a is the name of the derivation
<dhess> or b etc
<dhess> so I want [ emacs nmap ] to be turned into { emacs = emacs; nmap = nmap; }
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<LnL> closest thing is listToAttrs [ { name = "foo"; value = "42"; } ] # => { foo = "42"; }
<Aleksejs> is there anyone who uses tiling WM with nixos? Can you recommend any status bar?
<tilpner> Aleksejs - polybar works fine here
<lejonet> Seems like it is exactly what is needed :D
<dhess> LnL: ok
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<infinisil> dhess: genAttrs
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<infinisil> dhess: genAttrs [ "foo" "bar" ] (name: "x_" + name) => { foo = "x_foo"; bar = "x_bar"; }
<tilpner> infinisil - I thought of that too, but that's not what dhess wants
<sphalerite> dhess: if you don't need to handle a list of strings coming from elsewhere, { inherit emacs nmap; }
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<tilpner> infinisil - You need to look "a" up in current scope for that, and I don't know how
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<dhess> ok maybe I should explain what I'm actually trying to do. Maybe my current thinking isn't the best approach
<sphalerite> Err wait it's not strings it's derivations
<dhess> I have an overlay I use for my environments. It's a few custom things but mostly it defines buildEnvs that are collections of packages for working on various things
<dhess> most of the buildEnvs are always in my Nix environment, but a few I keep around for when I need them
<sphalerite> So genAttrs (d: {name = (builtins.parseDrvName d).name; value = d;}) [ emacs nmap ]
<dhess> anyway I want to do CI on them with Hydra. Always build when there's a new nixos-unstable-small channel bump for example
<dhess> sphalerite: yeah I have something almost like that already, that should do the trick I think
<dhess> anyway, you can't just put a buildEnv in a release.nix-style attrset, because it's just a runCommand
<sphalerite> dhess: seems like the inherit one is what you want then?
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<sphalerite> Why not?
<dhess> sphalerite: I dunno, it just comes up empty
<dhess> nothing in it
<dhess> it's not a derivation for one thing, I don't think
<infinisil> runCommand is a derivation too
<dhess> huh
<dhess> well I can't get it to evaluate to anything interesting
<dhess> here let me demonstrate
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<tilpner> dhess - Did sphalerites solution work for you?
<dhess> here is my overlay
<dhess> tilpner: haven't tried it yet as I'm trying to work out whether there's a better way to do this
<dhess> I want to have all of my *-env buildEnvs built
<tilpner> The manual way with listToAttrs works, but is not as pretty (sphalerites answer errors for some reason)
<dhess> but if I put "inherit (jobs) ansible-env" in the output attrset, it doesn't evaluate to anhything
<tilpner> lib.listToAttrs (map (d: lib.nameValuePair (builtins.parseDrvName d.name).name d) [ emacs nmap ])
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<dhess> tilpner: yeah that is effectively what I'm trying now
<dhess> I would love to know how to get a buildEnv to work with something like that release.nix though
<sphalerite> dhess: what's the error? I'm on my phone so I can't try it myself
<dhess> sphalerite: with what, the buildEnv's ?
<sphalerite> You said my answer errors for some reason
<dhess> sphalerite: I didn't say that :)
<tilpner> Note that this will produce the "wrong" result if emacs is actually... e.g. hello
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<sphalerite> Oops misread, it was tilpner
<tilpner> sphalerite - value is a function while a list was expected
<tilpner> sphalerite - And you probably meant to parseDrvName d.name
<dhess> LnL: ok that's a bit more interesting.
<sphalerite> Oh in that case I just got the args in the wrong order
<sphalerite> Put the list before the function
<dhess> LnL: I will look there if I can't get this other simpler thing working
<sphalerite> tilpner: yes
<LnL> dhess: you can add a packageAttrs input with [ "hello" "pythonPackages.pip" ... ] to make it build extra stuff
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<dhess> ok so here, this demonstrates what I mean about buildEnvs not evaluating to anything
<dhess> this release.nix is basically the same as the one checked into my repo: https://gist.github.com/dhess/3f09460bb7fc4c4bc98e9fd2e56960cb
<dhess> all I did was add "inherit (jobs) ansible-env"
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<dhess> now in `nix-repl jobset/release.nix`: https://gist.github.com/dhess/3f09460bb7fc4c4bc98e9fd2e56960cb
<dhess> it's blank
<dhess> even though ansible-env is in my overlays and can be evaluated by `nix-env -i ansible-env` just fine
<LnL> what does the default.nix evaluate to?
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<dhess> default.nix defines the overlays
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<dhess> There was a related discussion about buildEnvs here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/18315
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<tilpner> sphalerite - Your approach doesn't work because genAttrs uses nameValuePair and listToAttrs, which requires the name to be a string, and takes the names directly from the input list
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<sphalerite> Never mind me then
<dhess> so: this is why I want to take the list of 'paths' that you pass to the buildEnv, and turn that into an attrset. Then I can use all of the regular release-lib.nix stuff on it
<dhess> and to make the buildEnv visible to nix-env, I can just pass it the list
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<dhess> LnL: I don't think so. I just want the low-level stuff, not all of the jobs that release.nix defines
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<dhess> LnL: to clarify, I'm just trying to build the subset of stuff I need for my environment, not all of nixpkgs
<dhess> LnL: you are doing something similar with your nixpkgs-python, where you use the .toplevel attribute to whittle it down to just what you want to build
<dhess> LnL: but the .toplevel thing doesn't play well with the way I'm importing into the overlay
<LnL> yeah, this has an even simpler example https://github.com/LnL7/nixpkgs-ruby/blob/master/release.nix
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<dhess> LnL: I think that could work, but I've got so many haskellPackages that I want to build :(
<dhess> so it would not be feasible to re-enumerate them. I've already got a list, I just want to keep re-using that list
<LnL> you can inherit whatever you want here https://github.com/LnL7/nixpkgs-ruby/blob/master/release.nix#L29
<LnL> not just what's in the overlay
<dhess> yeah I know. But again, I want to limit the scope of what gets built
<LnL> that inherit does exactly that
<dhess> I understand. But take a look at my repo's list of haskell packages that get built and you will see why that isn't feasible for me
<LnL> so in your case inherit (jobs) ansible-env;
<dhess> LnL: that does not work. See the gist I posted
<dhess> that evaluates to { }
<dhess> I don't know why, but that's what it does.
<dhess> if that worked, this would be easy
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<Dezgeg> maybe it needs meta.platforms?
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<dhess> Dezgeg: you mean the buildEnv? I was thinking that as well
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<dhess> it has a meta attribute, but it only uses it for a few things
<dhess> I guess the meta.platforms will pass through?
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<dhess> I can try it, let me see
<dhess> Dezgeg: ho ho! Yes!
<dhess> that appears to be working
<dhess> yeahhhhhhh!
<dhess> Dezgeg: nice catch! I had thought of that before and then forgot to try it.
<dhess> that is so awesome
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<dhess> it might also fix the remaining objections to removing myEnvFun?
<LnL> oh, yeah hydra uses meta.platfors or ["x86_64-linux"]
<dhess> LnL: yeah I suppose that is why it evaluates to {} in my case, because I currently only have "x86_64-darwin" in supportedSystems
<pie__> "In 2010, progress on FatELF had stopped, and developer Ryan Gordon declared FatELF to be dead.[7] Later Gordon said he would take up the project again if a distribution shows interest.[8]" :C
<LnL> exactly, didn't notice that
<dhess> damn Dezgeg you just saved me a ton of work
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<dhess> wow with this I can even use one set of overlays for both NixOS and Mac.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #33500: gcc-wrapper-old: grab name of dynamicLinker for bintools (master...fix/gcc-wrapper-old-dynamiclinker) https://git.io/vNTk7
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<lejonet> Hmm, is there any builtin way similar to builtin.concatLists for attribute sets? // might work or?
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<lejonet> Seems like I answered my own question in nix-repl, // seems to be the way
<dhess> yeah // is join
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<lejonet> is it posible to do { if someVar == true then // otherAttr; } then?
<dhess> I don't know what you mean
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<lejonet> basically, conditionally join an attribute set to another attribute set
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<dhess> oh
<LnL> {} // lib.optionalAttrs true { foo = 42; }
<lejonet> aaah, big thanks
<lejonet> I'm trying to create a attr set that will be turned into a INI style conf, and ofc many of the sections are optional
<lejonet> so don't want to create empty sections if config options for that sections haven't been set
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<lejonet> Can I chain that further? e.g. {} // lib.optionalAttrs expr attrSet // lib.optionalAttrs otherExpr otherAttrSet etc etc?
<lejonet> I guess lib.optionalAttrs evaluates to {} if expr is false so logically it should be possible
<LnL> yeah, it's just if cond then attrs else {}
<lejonet> Sweet, that will simplify a lot
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<Lisanna> is there a reason why there isn't a types.url or types.uri in nixpkgs lib? Seems like there's lots of NixOS config options which take the form of URLs. Is it just that no one has made it yet?
<dhess> Lisanna: that would be very useful indeed
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] acowley opened pull request #33502: opencv3: fix enableFfmpeg on darwin (master...opencv-darwin-ffmpeg) https://git.io/vNTtT
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 62d228b Bart Brouns: qmidinet: 0.4.3 -> 0.5.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32834: qjackctl: 0.4.5 -> 0.5.0 (master...qjackctl) https://git.io/vbXvm
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/81373e421e8 (from 10 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #33492: yoshimi: 1.5.5 -> 1.5.6 (master...yoshimi) https://git.io/vNUbl
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<ryantrinkle> is there a way to turn a path into a derivation (that produces that path, copied into the nix store) without copying it again?
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<ryantrinkle> i have something defined as `blah = ./blah;`, but nix-build complains that it's not a derivation
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<ryantrinkle> i could write some wrapper that just copies the contents to $out, but that seems wasteful
<gchristensen> that definitely should do what you're wanting
<ryantrinkle> gchristensen: i'm on 1.11.16
<ryantrinkle> error: expression does not evaluate to a derivation (or a set or list of those)
<gchristensen> can you share your code?
<ryantrinkle> i think running
<ryantrinkle> nix-build -E ./.
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<ryantrinkle> should repro this issue anywhere
<gchristensen> weird :/ this is above my pay grade, sorry
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<infinisil> Um, does the users.users.<name>.password option work?
<infinisil> Because it doesn't seem to be with my nixos container
<infinisil> I'm trying to login with `sudo machinectl login <container-name>`
<infinisil> And I have set `users.users.root.password = "somepassword"`
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fe502b0 José Romildo Malaquias: connman: enable support for Wireless daemon for Linux (iwd)
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ddb9a30 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32839 from romildo/connman...
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<erlandsona> How do I change the video driver on NixOS from nouveau to nvidia? I've got an Acer Predator g9-792 with an nvidia GeForce 970m and I should be able to output 4k@60hz but I'm only able to get 4k@30hz with nouveau drivers.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 62ad428 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #33469 from Magnap/update-yadm...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ef7ba09 Marcus Medom Ryding: yadm: 1.07 -> 1.12.0
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<erlandsona> Anyone here know how to change video drivers from nouveau to nvidia for 4k@60hz support? I'm currently only getting 30hz which blows.
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<joepie91> erlandsona: one moment
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<erlandsona> Thanks joepie91!
<joepie91> erlandsona: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#services.xserver.videodrivers
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<joepie91> the last one in particular
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<joepie91> you'll want to set that to...
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<joepie91> erlandsona: "nvidia"
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<joepie91> for proprietary nvidia drivers
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bcf7218 José Romildo Malaquias: adapta-backgrounds: 0.5.1.1 -> 0.5.2.3
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<joepie91> then rebuild, reboot (possibly only relogin)
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<erlandsona> joepie91: Awesome! Thanks a ton. Now time to rebuild the kernel again. ugh... it's only cause I'm using Musnix but I need that for Music Production stuff so what am I gonna do :shrug:
<joepie91> erlandsona: seems you can set ["nvidia" "nouveau]
<joepie91> oops
<joepie91> erlandsona: seems you can set ["nvidia" "nouveau"] to make sure that it will boot even if the proprietary drivers fail for some reason *
<joepie91> wait hold on
<joepie91> "nouveau", is that even right?
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<joepie91> erlandsona: pfft, here I am searching the code, and it's just in the manual: https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/#idm140737316501376 :P
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<joepie91> doesn't seem that "nouveau" exists as an option
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<joepie91> musnix seems interesting
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<erlandsona> joepie91: lol I'm dumb. RTFM eh? Yeh musnix works pretty well save for you have to rebuild the kernel anytime you want to make a system change because musnix forces the kernel to rebuild so it can apply the correct patches. It's super annoying.
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<joepie91> erlandsona: well hey, I didn't RTFM either, so :P
<joepie91> and right
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: real-time patch is important for music production
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<yegortimoshenko> perhaps we could have rt-patched kernel in nixpkgs
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: here is a talk from real-time patchset creator, it explains rather well what is it about and why it's a good idea for music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAX3jOHHhn0
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<yegortimoshenko> (given that output is also "real-time" and non-buffering like jack, it would not make much sense to use rt patch w/ pulseaudio)
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: That's awesome thanks! And yeh the rt kernel should definitely built with nxpkgs. It literally takes 2-hours on my machine.
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<erlandsona> anyone here know why the 4.14.6-rt7 kernel is failing to compile? It's erroring with: error: unused option: CIFS_SMB2...
<yegortimoshenko> i'll check
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: could you try updated kernel (4.14.8-rt9)? if you import musnix via `imports = [ <musnix> ];`, you can just run `sudo nixos-rebuild -I musnix=https://github.com/magnetophon/musnix/archive/7c08543bfee807ad3e9a1c62cfb1660b3143cf80.tar.gz switch`
<yegortimoshenko> (pull request with the update: https://github.com/musnix/musnix/pull/60)
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<yegortimoshenko> by the way, musnix README doesn't have that advice, but it would be easier to update musnix if one would have it as a nix-channel, i.e. `sudo nix-channel --add https://github.com/musnix/musnix/archive/master.tar.gz musnix`, `sudo nix-channel --update musnix`, and just use `<musnix>` instead of literal path in `imports`
<yegortimoshenko> s/if one would have/if one had/
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: good call trying now... and please make an issue about the import. I agree and it was super confusing at first and they're pretty on top of responding quickly (1day or two) to issues.
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<yegortimoshenko> i'll make a pull request with updated README, and will try to merge rt kernel into nixpkgs. i'm also interested in that and 2h build time is not ok.
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<Aleksejs> can anyone help me with installing material-icons fonts? I have "fonts.fonts = with pkgs; [material-icons]" in my .nix file but when I try to rebuild, I see an error undefined variable material-icons
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<alex____> hello
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: You'd literally be my hero feel free to email me or add me to the watch list of the issue when that get's merged in. That would be amazing!
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: in other news here's about ~180 lines of output from the latest kernel rebuild I tried and failed with the same error as before. http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/BR2wN2SA
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<tilpner> Aleksejs - I'm guessing you're on 17.03? They're only available in 17.09 and upward
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<Aleksejs> I see
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<tilpner> Aleksejs - While you should upgrade your system, you can also mix channel and pull them in from 17.09 while keeping your base system on 17.03
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: i've made a rudimentary patch, could you test: sudo nixos-rebuild -I musnix=https://github.com/yegortimoshenko/musnix/archive/CIFS_SMB2.tar.gz switch
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<erlandsona> running now
<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: Nope same issue :shrug:
<yegortimoshenko> :-(
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<erlandsona> Yeh me too, what's CIFS_SMB2?
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: here's a similar bug in musnix that was fixed a while ago: https://github.com/yegortimoshenko/musnix/commit/2171dd6dd33eac0eca07078bf6ea174e1bdf6b2d
<erlandsona> Well I guess that makes sense given I'm building on Linux erlandsona 4.9.33-rt23 #1-NixOS SMP PREEMPT RT Sat Jun 17 04:43:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux
<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: i think i've updated the wrong config in my patch, i've pushed a fix
<erlandsona> same command?
<yegortimoshenko> could you try that again?
<yegortimoshenko> yes
<erlandsona> Yeh running now
<erlandsona> Same
<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: for reference here's the latest output just the last 20 or so lines though. http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/JKLlwMYu
<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: maybe if I could just bump the minor version of the kernel by a couple would that help?
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: it won't. i am setting up system profile that includes musnix (mine clashes quite a bit) and hopefully i'll be able to pinpoint why that happens and resolve it, in an hour or so.
<yegortimoshenko> musnix unfortunately doesn't expose kernels as packages
<yegortimoshenko> so can't just build without changing system profile
<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: man who are you, where did you come from, and where have you been all my life!
<erlandsona> me: humble web developer, yegortimoshenko: power user. lol
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: 4.11.12-rt14 kernel seems to be compiling fine? Not sure why or how it's relevant but more datas
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: this specifically hits kernels >= 4.13 due to condition in nixpkgs
<erlandsona> Ah okay, now you're original statement makes more sense. :thumbsup:
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: interestingly, i can't reproduce it. could you paste `nix-shell -p nix-info --run nix-info`?
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: https://gist.github.com/yegortimoshenko/021c551819ab02bbea52151472e76ccb, get this both on unstable and latest nixos-17.09
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: sorry I was finishing up that talk on the rt kernel stuff... uhhh yeh one sec.
<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: error: undefined variable ‘nix-info’ at (string):1:66
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: oh, i think you should have a really old system in that case! could you then try: nix-instantiate --eval -E "with import <nixpkgs> {}; lib.nixpkgsVersion"
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<erlandsona> I'm on 17.03
<erlandsona> "17.03.1504.94941cb045"
<erlandsona> to be precise
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: do I just need to nix-env -i nix-info?
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<erlandsona> Or should I update my channel to 17.09?
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<yegortimoshenko> It explains everything
<tilpner> You could try nix-shell -I nixpkgs=https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-17.09/nixexprs.tar.xz -p nix-info --run nix-info
<yegortimoshenko> tilpner: i don't need nix-info anymore :-)
<yegortimoshenko> I can backport fix to 17.03, no problem, but it will cause some rebuilds and I'd be more comfortable asking permission from other members first
<yegortimoshenko> but 17.03 is significantly pre-4.14 and is not actively supported anymore (no updates since november) so it makes sense that it doesn't build 4.14.
<tilpner> Hmm, should nix-info use stdenvNoCC?
<tilpner> It feels wrong to pull in gcc for that
<yegortimoshenko> it doesn't matter unless all other small packages also use stdenvNoCC
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<tilpner> True. I only noticed because I didn't have nixos-17.09 gcc
<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: specifically, the cause of the issue here:
<erlandsona> lol, y'all are both way over my head at this point. That said, I'm happy to upgrade my channel to 17.09. I just hda trouble upgrading to unstable last I tried. And between then and now 17.09 came out. :shrug:
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<yegortimoshenko> then, that would fix everything!
<erlandsona> Ah yup that makes sense to me!
<erlandsona> Sorry I'm lame and haven't upgraded yet.
<yegortimoshenko> i.e. Linux kernels starting from 4.13 don't have CIFS_SMB2 option, and Linux build system is aggressive to unknown options, which caused build to fail
<Aleksejs> is this right tutorial for upgrade? https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-upgrading
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<yegortimoshenko> 17.09 and higher only emit CIFS_SMB2 if kernel older than 4.13 is being built, and 17.03 doesn't have this logic
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: that makes perfect sense. Okay so here's a different but slightly related question...
<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: it's ok! i should learn to ask for nixos version first :-) it's not the first time i've tried to fix something that has already been fixed in a newer NixOS version.
<yegortimoshenko> sure!
<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: what's the difference between the channels 17.09 & 17.09-small I get that there's significant package differences between eg: 17.03 and 17.09 but what are they between the regular and small versions?
<erlandsona> Or is there a changelog somewhere I could check out?
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: you shouldn't get 17.09-small unless you're on a server, it sometimes makes sense for servers to use -small channel in order to get vulnerability updates quicker, but it skips a lot of desktop tests
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] alunduil opened pull request #33508: add alunduil as maintainer of network-arbitrary (master...add-network-arbitrary-maintainer) https://git.io/vNTZJ
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<erlandsona> So is it more of a stability thing than a size thing?
<yegortimoshenko> small is updated slightly more often but skips graphical tests, and doesn't wait for graphical packages (say, chromium) to build before it advances
<yegortimoshenko> i.e. small meaning only builds a few packages, and skips a lot of tests
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<erlandsona> hmmm... interesting. Awesome thanks!
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<samueldr> gchristensen: looks like the stickermule marketplace is... gone? do you have any information about that?
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<jtojnar> orivej_: do you have any idea why the cross-env changes broke the gettext setup hook?
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<yegortimoshenko> samueldr: same here, i wanted to buy a few stickers incl. NixOS logo :-(
<yegortimoshenko> perhaps url has changed
<samueldr> nah :(
<samueldr> I e-mailed their support, it's closed
<yegortimoshenko> samueldr: i still have stickers in my cart!
<samueldr> I *do* have the stickers in my cart
<yegortimoshenko> ...
<samueldr> I'm not special :(
<samueldr> :)
<yegortimoshenko> i'll order and hope it gets through
<samueldr> it probably will
<samueldr> their response was this: "Thanks for your continued support! We decided to close the marketplace to focus on improving our core experience of ordering custom products.
<hyper_ch> makefu, let me know when you're awake
<samueldr> from an outsider's perspective, it looked like their marketplace sticker orders weren't treated differently than the bigger orders, though I may just as well be wrong
<yegortimoshenko> i've placed an order... but i'm worried about it
<yegortimoshenko> there are a few stickers (NixOS, Org mode) not sold anywhere else
<samueldr> yeah, that's what it felt like
<yegortimoshenko> thank you a lot, i feel very lucky that i noticed your message
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* hyper_ch still fails to comprehend why people are so obsessed with stickers
<Li[m]> is there a way to cleanly garbage collect a specific closure?
<samueldr> nix-store --delete ?
<Li[m]> ahah! thanks
<samueldr> check the manpage, though
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<Li[m]> I was almost there in the nix manual
<Li[m]> :P
<Li[m]> is anyone using 'heads' with nixos?
<samueldr> what's "heads"?
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<samueldr> (I've done a quick google search of "heads linux software" and am seeing different projects)
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<hyper_ch> tons of qt updates
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<hyper_ch> still fails becuase of gcj/pdftk
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #33477: wireshark: explicitly disable the Qt build when building Gtk (master...wireshark-gtk) https://git.io/vNUz5
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #33449: fix kernel modules that broke with 4.14 (master...libelf-fallout) https://git.io/vNJ4d
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<orivej> jtojnar: I have not looked into it
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #33510: transmission_gtk: rename to transmission-gtk (master...20180106.071403/transmission-gtk) https://git.io/vNTW3
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<techtangents[m]> Any ideas?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] veprbl opened pull request #33511: fontconfig: fix postPatch phase for building on GPFS (staging...fontconfig_fix2) https://git.io/vNTlE
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 443687c Victor Calvert: wordgrinder: 0.6 -> 0.7.1
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master acb363f adisbladis: Merge pull request #33507 from calvertvl/upd_wordgrinder-0.7.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNTlD
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis opened pull request #33512: wordgrinder: Fix darwin build (master...wordgrinder-darwin) https://git.io/vNT8J
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<orivej> techtangents[m]: maybe patchelf produces incorrect elf. try to solve this with --set-rpath instead of --replace-needed
<techtangents[m]> orivej: thanks. Yeah, I'm getting better results with --set-rpath.
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<techtangents[m]> I think I'm through the linking problems. Now I can see it trying to write logs to its installed folder:
<techtangents[m]> mkdir("/nix/store/37634jpz2q9bwndj3yag5pgh8m8n2jy9-tresorit/core/Logs", 0777) = -1 EROFS (Read-only file system)
<techtangents[m]> Ugh.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Izorkin opened pull request #33513: mariadb: 10.2.11 -> 10.2.12 (master...mariadb) https://git.io/vNT4g
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0653b73bf61 (from 10 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5e85657 adisbladis: rsync: Fix CVE-2017-17433 and CVE-2017-17434
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 9287dbd adisbladis: rsync: Fix CVE-2017-17433 and CVE-2017-17434...
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<joko> Hello, could anyone enlighten me on how to use objcopy on a package I am writing? The binutils pkg points to binutils-wrapped which no longer has objcopy
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #33514: carnix: 0.5.0 -> 0.5.2 (master...carnix) https://git.io/vNTRa
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] etu opened pull request #33515: PHP Updates (master...php-updates) https://git.io/vNT0R
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<Fare> Hi.
<Fare> nixos should probably save the profile *and* channels for the last booted configuration
<Fare> otherwise, a channel update that causes a no-boot then a garbage collect result in trouble
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<Fare> is there a way to set back the channel to a version the name of which I saved? The latest kernel won't build for me :-(
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<Fare> what is this facetimehd module being built and how do I disable it?
<etu> Fare: I have a local checkout of nixpkgs of the nixos-unstable branch as a submodule which I use instead of the "channels"
<Fare> hardware.facetimehd.enable = false;
<etu> Fare: That way I can roll back and forth whenever I want :)
<Fare> etu: I did that for nixpkgs, I may do it for nixos, too
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bflyblue opened pull request #33516: unifi: 5.6.22 -> 5.6.29 (master...unifi-5.6.29) https://git.io/vNT0N
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<etu> I also use it to apply temporary patches that aren't in the channel yet :p
<Fare> OK, the build works with facetimehd disabled... rebooting with a 30% slower post-meltdown computer...
<srhb> It's not that bad, usually. :-P
<srhb> My worst so far have been IO heavy database machines.
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<Fare> srhb: if you run other people code there you deserve to lose anyway
<Fare> but yeah, lack of isolation means no defense in depth
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<hoverbear> I'm having some trouble starting `qt5ct` after setting `programs.qt5ct.enable = true;`. It suggests that the application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt plugin "".
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<mgttlinger> I'm trying to write a derivation for a deb packaged binaryaccording to this guide https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Packaging_Binaries however if I set the unpackCmd to the given ar pipeline nix complains that this creates multiple directories. If I set unpackPhase to just run that command it seems to work as intended. Is that an error in the guide or does setting the complete unpackPhase have horrible implications?
<Fare> what if some issue caused some nix package to be built improperly? How do I force nix to delete that directory and rebuild it?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 opened pull request #33517: mariadb: fix darwin build (master...darwin-mariadb) https://git.io/vNTEE
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<Fare> the indexes in my kernel-modules are full of 0
<Fare> I suspect a mmc driver issue caused that
<Fare> but now... how do I revert that thing?
<srhb> Fare: If you really want to just try a rebuild you can use --check with nix-build
<srhb> Oh, or is it with.. Erm..
<srhb> It's with nix-store
<Fare> yup, something is corrupted in nix-store
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<srhb> So, find the nix store path you're interested in rebuilding
<Fare> I workaround: nix-collect-garbage then rebuild
<srhb> Find its derivation with nix-store -qd
<srhb> Rebuild that with nix-store --realise --check
<srhb> Or that :-)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5ab4aeb Peter Simons: Merge pull request #33508 from alunduil/add-network-arbitrary-maintainer...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b7d216e Alex Brandt: add alunduil as maintainer of network-arbitrary
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNTEb
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<bpa> hello, I have an optimus enabled laptop with bumblebee enabled. I use Steam client to play games. The problem is that in Steam if i set launch options: primusrun %command% the game will not start anymore. I can't figure why...
<srhb> bpa: Probably because primusrun is not in scope in your Steam
<srhb> This is not terribly well documented
<srhb> You will want to create/override a steam derivation to enable primus
<srhb> bpa: Have you used overlays?
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<bpa> i have never used overlays, but i seriosly want to solve this
<srhb> Okay, you'll want something like this
<Fare> Apparently, it's a failure upstream.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNTuT
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5d56434 Michael Alan Dorman: hindent: needs new haskell-src-exts
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3bf1c3f Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...
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<Fare> nix-store --repair-path /nix/store/rdqlp9faf8bh8lqa1ih78nshwnn5h16h-kernel-modules fetching path ‘/nix/store/rdqlp9faf8bh8lqa1ih78nshwnn5h16h-kernel-modules’... *** Downloading ‘https://cache.nixos.org/nar/1nv4vvf4r2gfmwdzj4jc0lsvxlhsyg2swr41cypr8ns9w8xh4a04.nar.xz’ (signed by ‘cache.nixos.org-1’) to ‘/nix/store/rdqlp9faf8bh8lqa1ih78nshwnn5h16h-kernel-modules’...
<srhb> nixpkgs.overlays = [ (self: super: { steam = super.steamPackages.steam-chrootenv.override { withPrimus = true; }; ) ];
<srhb> bpa: ^
<Fare> how do I triple check that indeed the .nar is having the lib/modules/4.9.75/ index files all full of 0 ?
<Fare> this worries me, this upstream corruption
<Fare> what else is broken or tampered with upstream?
<srhb> Fare: Do you mean how do you unpack it?
<Fare> or is the software recipe bitrotten?
<Fare> are these 0s meant to be there?
<Fare> srhb, yes, how do I unpack the nar in a directory for inspection?
<bpa> do I insert this line in configuration.nix ?
<srhb> bpa: Yeah
<bpa> will try this
<srhb> bpa: Actually you might want to call it mySteam or something
<srhb> bpa: Then that's the mySteam you want to install in systemPackages.
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<srhb> Fare: I think it should be sufficient to just nix-store --realize the store path of the nar file
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<srhb> Fare: What are the index files you're mentioning?
<srhb> Fare: For the record, realizing /nix/store/rdqlp9faf8bh8lqa1ih78nshwnn5h16h-kernel-modules does not produce any files that look suspect to me.
<srhb> (Which may mean your issue is worse)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] schneefux opened pull request #33518: wallabag: fix config file not being loaded from WALLABAG_DATA (master...pkg.wallabag) https://git.io/vNTzG
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<nico202> anybody has problem getting org/org-plus-contrib from the unstable channel?
<srhb> nico202: I think the link was taken down the other day. Once unstable updates it should be fine.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #33510: transmission_gtk: rename to transmission-gtk (master...20180106.071403/transmission-gtk) https://git.io/vNTW3
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<srhb> Hmm, or maybe not. What's the attribute name again?
<hyper_ch> wohooo, I got my first lets encrypt wildcard cert (from staging server though)
<srhb> hyper_ch: Oh, are they out already?
<nico202> hyper_ch: cool :)
<hyper_ch> srhb: well, staging server... so you can test if it works or not but they aren't sigend by the actual cert yet
<hyper_ch> acme.sh just added the support like 1h ago and I had to test it :)
<srhb> Nice.
<srhb> nico202: I can't find that org-plus-contrib thing. Where are you getting it from?
<nico202> srhb: epkgs.org-plus-contrib in home manager
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<srhb> I see
<dbe_> In a package derivation, how can I refer to a file within another package in configureFlags? i.e. configureFlags = '' --with-foo=$bar/bin/executable ''
<srhb> ${bar}/bin/executable
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<dbe_> oh. well, that was easy...
<srhb> :)
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<dbe_> somehow, that's a recurring theme with me and nix
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<srhb> Yeah, it's... I think the jump from configuration language to programming language is sort of jarring.
<srhb> But then it gets really powerful ^^
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vNTgt
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 78e9665 Yegor Timoshenko: kernel/common-config: backport 4.13+ support
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<yegortimoshenko> erlandsona: i've backported CIFS_SMB2 fix to 17.03: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/78e9665b48ff45d3e29f45b3ebeb6fc6c6e19922
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<srhb> yegortimoshenko: Is 17.03 even built anymore?
<yegortimoshenko> srhb: i think so
<srhb> Oh.
<srhb> That's a bit weird...
<yegortimoshenko> i'm not sure. let's check.
<srhb> Looks like it.
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<yegortimoshenko> i'm puzzled how red hat people can support the same release for half a decade.
<srhb> Tons of people working on it :P
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<srhb> But yeah, I think it's a bit weird when it's officially unsupported. Oh well.
<yegortimoshenko> even if that's the case, i'd guess it might be underwhelming to support legacy software.
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<srhb> Yeah..
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<wchresta_> yegortimoshenko: Hey, wanted to say thanks for the very pleasant experience writing my first pull request (the steam wrapper). Thank you for your patience and the general welcoming attitute of everyone involved.
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<yegortimoshenko> wchresta_: thank you for your work! ^_^ and sorry for not escaping backticks!
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<wchresta_> yegortimoshenko: I should have noticed :). I was super puzzled by the assert error. After waking up the next morning, figured it out in 2 minutes ^
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] srhb opened pull request #33520: gnome3.gnome-screenshot: fix gettext setup (master...gnome-screenshot) https://git.io/vNTag
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 8345069 Jörg Thalheim: linuxPackages.ena: 1.2.0 -> 1.5.0; fix build dependencies...
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<Li[m]> what's the consensus on the best place to put private keys and such?
<Li[m]> `/var` ?
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<srhb> Li[m]: I use /var/secrets, nixops uses /run/keys I think and deploys them in a way such that they only exist while the system is live
<Li[m]> srhb: thanks for the input
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<Rovanion> So I've got a full / and nothing to kill in /tmp, and as of such nix-collect-garbage won't run. What can I do?
<AntonLatukha[m]> srhb: How is then connection to the instance survives reboots?
<AntonLatukha[m]> srhb: In NixOps
<Li[m]> funny, the wikipedia article on 'unix filesystem' doesnt talk about `/run`
<lassulus> Rovanion: kill logs in /var/log?
<AntonLatukha[m]> Li: 'Unix' is not 'Linux.
<srhb> AntonLatukha[m]: The ssh keys do not live there.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 ca87fb6 Tuomas Tynkkynen: Revert "broadcom_sta: fix build (kernel.moduleBuildDependencies)"...
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<Li[m]> lol
<Li[m]> AntonLatukha: yea we better not say that word out loud in case ATT comes in here and sues us all to death
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<srhb> Li[m]: Of course, NixOS also throws FHS out the window
<Li[m]> which is fine by me
<srhb> But /run is mentioned there at least.
<Li[m]> I like the suckless FHS ... they have a `/sucks`
<Li[m]> for basically almost everything
<srhb> :P
<AntonLatukha[m]> Li: "In FHS 3.0, /var/run is replaced by /run; a system should either continue to provide a /var/run directory, or provide a symbolic link from /var/run to /run, for backwards compatibility.[11]"
<Li[m]> ahh there we go
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<AntonLatukha[m]> Li: '/run' This is one of the recent changes to filesystem structure. That is why it is impossible to exist in Unix, and Linux is awesome.
<Li[m]> I think the word is used in different wys
<Li[m]> I see where youre coming from
<Li[m]> maybe I start a new root dir, called `/sec`
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<Li[m]> 'tscd' TPM daemon uses /var
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<yegortimoshenko> Li[m]: all NixOS systems have /run/keys dir, but it's ephemeral
<Li[m]> for those 'easy deploy once' use cases. I get it. makes sense
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<yegortimoshenko> the idea is that only users that have access to keys can reboot the server, and that the server would never have to be rebooted by itself.
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<yegortimoshenko> in nixops, you can specify to store /run/keys, it probably copies them over to /var before reboot
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<gchristensen> samueldr: no idea :/
<gchristensen> samueldr: I could mail you some
<srhb> Hmm, envHooks seem kind of arcane...
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<yegortimoshenko> srhb: they are evaluated early on, i think before configure, and supposed to fill in environment variables for build
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<srhb> It seems to me addEnvHook is used to "make available" a hook for other builds, but I'm not sure to get at them.
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<Orbstheorem> Hi, I was wondering if there's any way to run nixos-rebuild build-vm-with-bootloader using a loop device with real partitions, uuids and luks
<Orbstheorem> Mainly because I would like to test my server initramfs config for unlocking the root partition via ssh
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm opened pull request #33521: nixos: introduce boot.growPartition (master...separate-profiles-boot-growPartition) https://git.io/vNTw5
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<Orbstheorem> clever: thanks
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<srhb> I wonder if the fact that the gettext hook wasn't updated to use addEnvHook is the problem here.
<srhb> That's probably a big rebuild to test out though. :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm opened pull request #33522: nixos/acme: configurable TOS hash (master...simp_le_tos_hash) https://git.io/vNTrU
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis closed pull request #33515: PHP Updates (master...php-updates) https://git.io/vNT0R
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<jtojnar> srhb: yes that is exactly the problem
<srhb> jtojnar: Oh, hi. :)
<srhb> Is this on purpose to avoid a mass rebuild?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #33523: weechat: add NixOS module (master...20180106.130747/nixos-weechat) https://git.io/vNTrn
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<jtojnar> srhb: It was just missed
<srhb> Ah :)
<jtojnar> the setup hook is fairly new
<srhb> I noticed, yeah.
<srhb> Bit of an adventure this.
<jtojnar> and when Sonarpulse merged the PR, he did not check for new hooks
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<srhb> Are you poking it or should I?
<jtojnar> it would be great if you could do it
<srhb> OK, it's a completely naive fix, but we'll see.
<Orbstheorem> I'm haing a problem when I run nixos-rebuild build-vm-with-bootloader, build works just fine when I nixos-rebuild build-vm :( . Logs: https://paste.gnugen.ch/raw/dkfJ
<Orbstheorem> How can I debug the issue?
<Orbstheorem> nor --show-trace -v seem very helpful
<jtojnar> srhb: yeah I think `addEnvHooks "$hostOffset" gettextDataDirsHook` should be enough
<srhb> Right :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] srhb opened pull request #33524: gettext: Don't use envHooks anymore (master...gettext-addEnvHooks) https://git.io/vNTri
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<srhb> gchristensen: Out of curiosity, which steps go before gcofborg starting to look into a PR? I notice that sometimes it's instant, sometimes not. Is there a queue on this step?
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<gchristensen> you bet there is!
<srhb> :)
<gchristensen> http://events.nix.gsc.io/stats.php evaluator.messages.waiting
<srhb> <3
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<gchristensen> maybe this weekend I'll figure out how to make https://snapshot.raintank.io/dashboard/snapshot/2XEYwexPbaooY4SMEwWieTaMNaSMuWoc public
<bobbypriambodo> hi folks, is this where I can ask about nix installation on osx?
<srhb> bobbypriambodo: Yup!
<bobbypriambodo> cool!
<bobbypriambodo> so I'm having trouble with nix binary installer wanting to do multi-user installation everytime
<bobbypriambodo> is that intended?
<srhb> gchristensen: mm, graphs. I actually don't know what kind of access control it has
<gchristensen> Very Poor, srhb :P
<srhb> gchristensen: Figures...
<srhb> It's the same with ELK
<srhb> Unless you want to pay, of course.
<gchristensen> if I expose any dashboard you can access any metric if you can guess thee metric name
<bobbypriambodo> how can I tell the installer that I want to use single-user?
<srhb> gchristensen: Beautiful :P
<clever> bobbypriambodo: it will use stdin to ask that, when installing, how did you run it?
<gchristensen> bobbypriambodo: why do you want single-user? "multi-user" is a bad name, really it turns on several security and safety features
<gchristensen> clever: the installer doesn't ask if you want multi-user/single-user
<clever> ah, it must have been changed again
<bobbypriambodo> clever: by running bash <(curl https://nixos.org/nix/install)
<clever> the stdin of the bash is connected to curl, so it cant read stdin from you
<bobbypriambodo> gchristensen: why do I want multi-user? I'm planning to use it myself... I expected to use single-user for that
<clever> bobbypriambodo: you can use multi-user mode as a single user
<bobbypriambodo> clever, yes I've also tried downloading the script and running it manually, but it directly goes to multi-user
<bobbypriambodo> so is it expected for me to use multi-user?
<clever> yes
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eddf30c zimbatm: nixos: introduce boot.growPartition (#33521)...
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<bobbypriambodo> just that when I tried using multi-user, it's kinda invasive with changing /etc/profile and whatnots... seem dirty
<gchristensen> it only touches a few places and is fairly easy to undo if you'd like
<srhb> If you're a single user, it's no worse than altering ~/.profile :-)
<bobbypriambodo> not to mention that it creates several extra users on my machine
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<clever> those help ensure you dont break nix
<bobbypriambodo> I hope I don't come across as offending, just want to understand what's happening :)
<srhb> Not at all :)
<srhb> Essentially the build users help with isolation.
<bobbypriambodo> I see
<bobbypriambodo> well I think it was my knee jerk reaction when knowing nix touches more places than I'm comfortable with
<bobbypriambodo> but if it's necessary then so be it
<srhb> That's fair. I don't know if single user mode is actually still possible (it probably is) but I think it's a good thing to discourage it.
<clever> it helps stop the builds you do later from touching places it shouldnt
<bobbypriambodo> okay then
<bobbypriambodo> thanks for the prompt responses!
<gchristensen> <3
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<srhb> gchristensen: That's my biggest rebuild pr yet according to borg!
<srhb> Where's my medal
<srhb> "You achieved red labels on the build bot!"
<gchristensen> haha, that'd be cute :D
<hyper_ch> hand out a red shirt to srhb?
<srhb> Don't the red shirts get shot?
<hyper_ch> :)
<adisbladis> srhb: Maybe rebase it and change the target to staging?
<hyper_ch> you wanted something red :)
<srhb> Yeah.
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<kim0> Howdy folks .. Very new to nixos but very liking it :D
<srhb> kim0: o/
<kim0> I'm trying to rebuild a package .. but it's always failing with errors beyond me :/
<kim0> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26332334/ .. Let me know if someone can help
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 65f7829 Elis Hirwing: php71: 7.1.11 -> 7.1.13...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 05f2cda Elis Hirwing: php70: 7.0.25 -> 7.0.27...
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<gchristensen> can you paste the error as well?
<adisbladis> kim0: Welcome :)
<kim0> Such a friendly bunch :D
<kim0> Ok, pasting the error on screen
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<clever> kim0: line 20 and 21
<clever> it needs a version.cpp.in file to tell it what version it is
<clever> cmake/Version.cmake may explain it more
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<kim0> I mean that kind of error, does not seem nix induced .. to me it just means there is a mistake in the actual source code, which doesn't make a lot of sense
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<clever> kim0: the error is caused by nix not providing a git executable, and the .git directory being missing
<kim0> aha .. I saw some warning about git
<clever> and the cmake files expect extra stuff to be added to the tarball when making a release
<clever> stuff that is never included in the github
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<kim0> clever: so just adding "git" to buildInputs .. should hopefully make it work ?
<clever> nix removes the .git directory, so that wont help
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<kim0> clever: so any ideas how to convince it to build from github ?
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<clever> compare a normal release tarball with the github source, to see what they added
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7e8e582 Peter Hoeg: virtmanager-qt: 0.45.75 -> 0.48.79
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<kim0> clever: do you expect that those changes are injected in the tar.bz2 files manually .. ie. not checked into git ?
<clever> kim0: yes
<kim0> interesting
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<Li[m]> anyone using self-encrypting drive? i just noticed 'sedutil' isnt in nixpkgs
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<jluttine[m]> I have nixos already installed. I booted to some live usb os and modified my hard drives and changed hardware-configuration.nix accordingly. How can I now apply the changes to my nixos which i have mounted to /mnt ?
<lassulus> nixos-install
<jluttine[m]> I guess this wasn't a good approach..
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<srhb> jluttine[m]: Apparently nixos-install --chroot works again
<lassulus> or maybe: nixos-install --chroot and then nixos-rebuild switch
<srhb> jluttine[m]: So you can chroot into it and run nixos-rebuild switch
<srhb> heh, too slow
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<srhb> nixos-rebuild boot is probably more right
<kim0> clever: it seems just adding git to deps, made it work :D Thanks
<jluttine[m]> nixos-install doesn't seem to work because my live os isn't proper nixos installer
<kim0> Hey does nix accept the concept of "-nightly" builds ? like unstable builds from git ?
<clever> jluttine[m]: nixos-install also works from any nixos install
<srhb> kim0: We have nixos-unstable which promotes master whenever a test set goes through
<kim0> I only meant nixpkgs .. coz for now, I'm running that over Ubuntu .. till I'm more enlightened :)
<srhb> kim0: There are also different channels that work on differing test sets. (nixos-unstable-small for instance)
<srhb> kim0: Well, nixos-unstable *is* a nixpkgs channel, with a certain test set.
<jluttine[m]> dunno, but nixos-install gives error: file nixpkgs was not found in the nix search path
<jtojnar> there is nixpkgs-unstable too (with much less tests)
<kim0> yeah .. I think I'm on that channel
<srhb> kim0: That'll update very frequently.
<Li[m]> go unstable or go home
<kim0> so if I want to see a nightly monero build .. should I just send a pull-request for that ?
<srhb> kim0: Once it's merged into master it will appear in the channels when their tests complete succesfully, yes.
<srhb> kim0: The concept of "nightly" is meaningless, it's as soon as the tests pass. :)
<kim0> so in the monero folder .. there is a "default.nix" .. I should add a "nightly.nix" or something like that ?
<srhb> Nope
<srhb> Every package is built (when needed)
<srhb> Oh
<srhb> I'm misunderstanding you
<srhb> You want to expose some _different_ version of monero?
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<kim0> Yes
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<kim0> The unstable one .. built from github master
<srhb> kim0: I find that unlikely to be included, unless there's good reason.
<srhb> kim0: In general we have just one version of everything.
<kim0> Got it .. I'll just keep it to myself then :D
<srhb> kim0: And the nightly would require constant updating of the hash to actually fetch the newer sources anyway
<srhb> kim0: So it's not nightly except for when someone bumps its hash in nixpkgs :)
<kim0> yeah .. I understand
<deltasquared> monero... is that the cryptocurrency I'm thinking of
<fendor> how can i install discord on nixos?
<clever> fendor: nix-env -iA nixos.discord
<kim0> deltasquared: yes that's the one
<Lisanna_> fendor: keep in mind that discord is non-free software, so you might need to do something in here to get that to work: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-allow-unfree
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<lassulus> jluttine[m]: try updating the channel with nix-channel --update ?
<fendor> clever, discord demands an immediate update, is that possible to perform on your own?
<clever> fendor: nothing installed with nix can update itself
<clever> the update will either fail or break the program
<fendor> sooo, no discord for me?
<clever> does it allow the old version to run?
<fendor> i dont think so
<deltasquared> could be a protocol change.
<deltasquared> or just the proprietary software in general saying you need to do something and that's that ;)
<fendor> it seems to be an upgrade from 0.0.2, to 0.0.3
<deltasquared> I wonder though, would it be possible to set up some form of FHS sandbox with the needed libs manually
<deltasquared> (I mean sure the existing nix expression probably does smth like that but it refers to an older version.)
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<srhb> fendor: Er, 0.0.3 is the version in nixpkgs.
<srhb> fendor: When did you last update your channel?
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<fendor> srhb, i think today?
<fendor> srhb, nix-channel -u?
<srhb> fendor: Yes. Which channel are you on?
<srhb> fendor: It's been in nixpkgs since dec 14, so it should be up to date on all channels
<fendor> stable and unstable
<srhb> "stable" ?
<clever> fendor: what does nix-channel --list say?
<fendor> srhb, the default one, prefix nixos
<srhb> fendor: postfix...?
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<srhb> Did you upgrade discord after that?
<srhb> How are you installing it?
<clever> fendor: try nix-env -iA unstable.discord
<srhb> It should be in 17.09 as well
<fendor> clever, already tried it
<clever> fendor: the version in unstable?
<srhb> fendor: Well, you must be getting an old version from *somewhere*
<srhb> fendor: what does which Discord say?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fbf9ab2 José Romildo Malaquias: numix-icon-theme-circle: 17-09-13 -> 17-12-25
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 92b6873 José Romildo Malaquias: numix-icon-theme: 17-11-18 -> 17-12-25
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<fendor> nixos.discord discord-0.0.2 unstable.discord discord-0.0.3
<fendor> weird
<fendor> i try unstable.discord again
<clever> nixos is 17.09, which is older, unstable is newer
<fendor> well, now it works, thanks!
<fendor> should i remove the nixos channel?
<clever> depends on if you want to keep using the stable channel or not
<fendor> clever, what would be the advantage?
<clever> you can use the stable channel for most things, and then get just discord from unstable
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<macslayer> The Discord developers really need to get their shit together and use `fontconfig`'s `sans-serif` and `monospace` fonts instead of hardcoding their own
<clever> so other things wont become unstable
<jluttine[m]> Argh, nothing works.. nixos-install starts downloading everything although it shouldn't as I have everything in /mnt/nix/store/... already. I tried giving -I and setting NIX_PATH to point to my used channel under /mnt/... but didn't help. Nix-install --chroot opens new shell nicely but I can't do any install or rebuild because I don't have anything under /run/user/...
<clever> jluttine[m]: manually create the missing directory
<fendor> clever, when i enter nix-channel --list without sudo, only the unstable channel is shown, only when sudo is included i see the nixos channel
<clever> fendor: is nixos listed on both users, or only one?
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<fendor> clever, nixos is only listed on root
<clever> fendor: ah, then nixos will only update if root runs nix-channel --update
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<fendor> clever, should i add nixos to my users channels as well?
<clever> no
<clever> the user will automaticaly use the root channels
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<jluttine[m]> eh, luks asks password at boot but my wireless keyboard doesn't do anything..
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<fendor> clever, would i also need to execute nix-env -u as root?
<fendor> or should it make no difference
<clever> that would only update things root installed with nix-env
<jluttine[m]> Do i need to do something to enable keyboard for luks prompt at boot time?
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<srhb> jluttine[m]: Hm, I didn't for zfs unlocking at least
<lassulus> jluttine[m]: if its an usb keyboard, maybe adding usb to boot.initrd.availableKernelModules
<fendor> ok, so, if i want to update my unstable channel, then nix-channel --update, when updating the stable channel, sudo nix-channel --update and then i can execute nix-env -u to update all programs installed by my user?
<clever> fendor: and im not sure which channel `nix-env -u` will use
<jluttine[m]> Keyboard works before luks prompt when choosing the nixos version to boot
<fendor> clever, sounds like my setup is not the smartest one? what would be a smarter approach?
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<clever> fendor: using a set in config.nix to define all of your programs
<fendor> clever, how would that be updated?
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<clever> fendor: nix-env -iA nixos.setname
<fendor> still required nix-channel --update, wouldn't itß
<fendor> ?
<clever> yeah
<fendor> so no real difference to nix-env -u ?
<clever> nix-channel is required to update the expressions
<clever> nix-env is then required to install the new versions
<clever> but `nix-env -u` wont always pick the right channel to read them from
<fendor> it doesnt? it is not aware of which channel it has been initially installed by?
<clever> all it knows is the names of the packages
<fendor> huh
<fendor> so, to install a package, update both channels, such as unstable and nixos as root and local user respectively, add package to file and then evaluate the nix-expr via nix-env -iA?
<clever> yeah
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<fendor> that sounds like a ridiculous amount of work for installing a new package
<clever> for just installing it, all you need is nix-env -iA unstable.discord
<clever> all the other stuf, is just to make it simpler to manage things
<clever> so 6 months down the road, when you want to update, you dont need ot do as much work
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<jluttine[m]> lassulus: no effect.. :(
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<jluttine[m]> Where did that "usb" to available kernel modules come from? Is it documented somewhere?
<srhb> jluttine[m]: If that's really the issue, you probably also need at least usbhid
<ewog> does anyone know of projects that automate minor version updates for a nix package?
<ewog> a similar idea in node.js is greenkeeper
<srhb> ewog: As in bump the upstream sources and numbers or something?
<ewog> yes the shasum + minor version num and then open a PR
<LnL> there are a couple of packages that do this https://search.nix.gsc.io/?q=updateScript&i=nope&files=&repos=
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<7JTAC9RLQ> nixpkgs/master 106d87b Daiderd Jordan: mariadb: fix darwin build
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<ewog> thanks LnL7, I will check those out
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<LnL> \o/ that should unblock nixpkgs-unstable
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<ewog> I wanted to explore the idea as it has security benefits and automates a chore
<srhb> jluttine[m]: Oh, guess so.
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<fendor> other question, how can i add the program icon to the gnome shell overlay?
<jluttine[m]> Yey, solved it! I'll make a pull request
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<adisbladis> This is not really related to nix at all.. But I just got myself an older macbook to test darwin builds on. Where can I download a recent OSX and make a bootable usb without using the app store?
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<adisbladis> LnL: Maybe you know?
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<lejonet> adisbladis: my condoleances ;)
<LnL> you can't except for some shady websites
<LnL> AFAIK
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<Biappi> adisbladis: you must use the appstore first to get an app with the base image, from there you can use a script to produce the usb media from the official source
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<lejonet> Mhm, Apple is religious with purging older than recent + 2 versions older, I think, OSXs from existence
<LnL> yeah you can make a usb installer from the app store thing
<lejonet> and now that they've gone over to app store there, you can't do anything without it :(
<adisbladis> Ugh... It doesnt even have OSX on it
<adisbladis> Its my sisters old laptop and she was using ubuntu
<lejonet> Is it too old to have the "Recover from internet" option?
<lassulus> jluttine[m]: what was the solution?
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<adisbladis> lejonet: Huh. That seems like its possible :)
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<lejonet> adisbladis: I don't remember when they added that, but it is atleast 3-4 years ago
<lejonet> cmd+R during startup should get you there and should directly give you an option to do a reinstall from internet
<fendor> how can i add the program icon to the gnome shell overlay?
<adisbladis> lejonet: Yeah that seems to work.
<adisbladis> Thanks :)
<lejonet> adisbladis: There you go, np :)
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<yorick> why are the keymap tests failing?
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<magnap> What's the action to take if you've bisected your way to a commit that causes a test (currently one that's holding up unstable) to fail? Just open an issue on GitHub? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0e7358002679ad7f35d2bd99977b9f0e403d4de2 appears to be the commit that caused https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/trunk-combined/nixos.tests.networking.scripted.macvlan.x86_64-linux to start failing
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<hoverbear> How can I manage dotfiles with nixos?
<yorick> hoverbear: here's an example: https://github.com/garbas/dotfiles
<yorick> there is some discusiosn on the mailing list
* magnap has been looking into why the tests that are holding back nixos-unstable are failing
<hoverbear> Yeah I saw them =D
<hoverbear> Thanks yorick
<yorick> magnap: yes, github issue :)
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<fendor> when compiling with gcc or clang, how can i link against a certain library like omp? do i need a custom nix expression?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] andir opened pull request #33526: irssi: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 (fixes CVE-2018-5206, CVE-2018-5205, CVE-2018-5208, CVE-2018-5207) (master...irssi-1.0.6) https://git.io/vNTDi
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<magnap> yorick: [GitHub issue submitted](https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/33527) :)
<yorick> magnap: maybe refer to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/33414
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<magnap> yorick: good point, that's why I was even looking at this in the first place :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f61ad23 Andreas Rammhold: irssi: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 (fixes CVE-2018-5206, CVE-2018-5205, CVE-2018-5208, CVE-2018-5207)...
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<gchristensen> andi-: have you considered requesting merge rights? (do you have that yet?)
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<andi-> gchristensen: I don't have that. I like to at least force myself through peer review :)
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<andi-> I thought about it a few times tho..
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<globin> gchristensen: I just wanted to ping you to propose that %)
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<LnL> the next person that gets access would be number 100 :)
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<LnL> or did that already happen
<gchristensen> oh! yes, andi-, I think #100 fits you well
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<andi-> I wouldn't decline tho..
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<gchristensen> someone get this man merge rights!
<globin> domenkozar, ikwildrpepper: ^
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<ertes> what's the proper way to set a default GHC version? 8.2 breaks haskell-mode for me
<ertes> i want to go back to 8.0
<LnL> you can use haskell.packages.ghc** instead of haskellPackages
<ertes> but then i have to use that explicitly for everything
<ertes> there has to be a way to just make one of them default
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<clever> make a packageOverride that just overwrites haskellPackages with the 8.0 set
<ertes> do i just override haskellPackages to be haskell.packages.ghc802?
<clever> yeah, that should work
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<ertes> looks like it's working, but it seems to compile a lot from source now
<ertes> just to make sure, do i use super.* or self.* here?
<LnL> only packages for the default ghc are built
<ertes> ah, makes sense
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<ertes> still… would i use 'super' or 'self' here? currently trying 'self', and it seems to work… at least i'm not getting any infinite loops, but i pretty much just flipped a coin
<clever> ertes: in general, i use super, self is to fix the loops
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<ertes> since i'm not overriding haskell.packages.ghc802, is self.h.p.g the same as super.h.p.g?
<ertes> but if i would override it, then by self.* i would refer to my modified version… is that accurate?
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<jluttine> lassulus: for building on the live os, i did `nixos-install --chroot`, then found out where my nixpkgs was located and modified NIX_PATH, then ran `nixos-install --root /`. however, then boot failed because one kernel module was missing. i added that and then i was able to enter my luks passphrase.
<lassulus> But what was the missing kernel module?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5391489 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.git: 1.11.2 -> 1.11.4 (#33472)
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<nico202> How do I escape a ${array[@]} in a bash script in a nix file?
<samueldr> gchristensen: if you ever get asked this again, I found out that the price is the same if you do it yourself, except you're forced to order by 10s
<samueldr> nico202: in multiline strings, prefix the dollar sign with two single quotes to escape
<samueldr> ''${array[@]}
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<gchristensen> samueldr: whats thath?
<samueldr> sorry, for the stickers
<gchristensen> ah
<nico202> samueldr: wow, strange. But it works, thanks :)
<gchristensen> fwiw I usually order a few hundred at a time and leave them places :)
<samueldr> nico202: the relevant section of the manual: https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#idm140737318133792
<samueldr> yeah, the price really goes down in hundreds
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* hyper_ch wonders why everyone is so obsessed with stickers
<gchristensen> hyper_ch: I buy them because people like them
<gchristensen> and they're a cheap way to have NixOS stuck on a bunch of laptops and stuff
<hyper_ch> I usually remove all stickers from a notebook
<samueldr> oh, I remove all OEM stickers
<gchristensen> that is fine, you're not most people, and the stickers are evidently not for you :)
<rnhmjoj[m]> what can I do about https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/27688? I'm dying to see it merged.
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<gchristensen> globin: would you mind putting eyes on rnhmjoj[m]'s PR?
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<infinisil> rnhmjoj[m]: btw you can auto-link PR's like nixpkgs#27688 now \o/
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/27688 (by rnhmjoj, open): nixos/networking-interfaces: make static routes configurable
<rnhmjoj[m]> infinisil: ah, nice
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<jluttine> is there a reason why most/all of these are not in boot.initrd.availableKernelModules? https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/hid
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<jluttine> it's a bit annoying if one's keyboard doesn't work in LUKS prompt at boot.. :)
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<infinisil> jluttine: Maybe because nixpkgs/nixos/modules/system/boot/kernel.nix#L177
<infinisil> (the comment)
<globin> rnhmjoj[m]: ack, fpletz and me are on holiday till monday and have both been partly over the last 8 weeks, this is going to be in the top priorities for the next 2 weeks
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<rnhmjoj[m]> thank you!
<jluttine> infinisil: ah, ok! thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #33485: linux_hardened_copperhead: 4.14.11a -> 4.14.12a (master...copperhead-4.14.12a) https://git.io/vNUyA
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 08cde7d Izorkin: mariadb: 10.2.11 -> 10.2.12
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #33481: apache-httpd: enable brotli support by default (master...topic-apache-brotli) https://git.io/vNUw5
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<macslayer> I would like to personally thank all of the NixOS developers for this great OS.
<macslayer> So, thanks!
<gchristensen> macslayer: awesome to hear! we're glad you likee it!
<macslayer> :D
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<macslayer> Are there any studies done that show that NixOS has a lower hard disk usage than other traditional distributions? I have a full KDE environment, Firefox, an IRC client, and a bunch of libraries, and `/nix` is still only 3.8GB.
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<hyper_ch> define full kde environment
<macslayer> That is, does `nix-store --optimise` make the disk usage equal to that of a traditional distribution, or does it make it less?
<gchristensen> macslayer: in general, nixos will use more disk
<samueldr> anecdotally, I've always used more, since I generally have at least one other generation to boot from
<infinisil> oh right, generations, those can take up a lot of space (but it's worth it, you don't get that on other distros)
<macslayer> hyper_ch: plasma_desktop and plasma_nm and okular
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<macslayer> samueldr: That doesn't count, because that's a feature that other distros won't have
<macslayer> But theoretically, if one just keeps one generation, would it use more or less?
<samueldr> my smaller SSD tends to disagree :)
<gchristensen> macslayer: well for the resource disk space, NixOS generally uses more. is it worth it? yes, but is "low disk usage" a feature? no
<macslayer> I'm not sure why it seems like less to me, maybe it's just because I'm more careful with which packages I install because I put them in a configuration file.
<hyper_ch> your small SSD would enjoy a big brother :)
<infinisil> gchristensen: hmm, are you sure it uses more if we only consider 1 generation? NixOS doesn't have many things installed by default, so it might be hard to say
<Ankhers> gchristensen: pm?
<gchristensen> Ankhers: yes
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<macslayer> Hmmm, I guess my opinion is that it might use slightly more than a traditional distro with the same packages installed, but NixOS encourages the user to be smarter about what he/she installs.
<macslayer> Not that it matters, I have plenty of disk space, just wondering for curiosity.
<gchristensen> maybe it does :) who knows! I think we're indeed probably just a bit more minimalist out of the box
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<jekor> Is there a known issue with remote builds (build-remote.pl) on High Sierra?
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<macslayer> Yeah, I think there might be too many variables; for example, some other distro could have some other development library installed by default, so it depends on if you use that or not.
<macslayer> So it'd be really hard to test.
<clever> jekor: what happens if you run "ssh user@host nix-store --help" with the user/host of the darwin machine
<jekor> Outputs a manpage.
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<clever> jekor: with that exact command?
<nikivi> I recently watched a few talks about nix and nixOS
<nikivi> And one thing that I was curious about is that homebrew which is a package manager for macOS was called `impure`
<nikivi> What does that mean exactly?
<jekor> Yes, both for myuser@localhost and remotebuilduser@remotehost.
<clever> jekor: and are the remote machines setup in /etc/nix/machines ?
<gchristensen> nikivi: have you ever used homebrew, upgraded macos, and found homebrew's packages broken?
<nikivi> gchristensen Maybe once
<jekor> They are in export NIX_REMOTE_SYSTEMS="$HOME/.nix/remote-systems.conf"
<clever> jekor: nix-daemon doesnt get that variable
<gchristensen> nikivi: or upgraded some piece of software which unexpectedly broke another program?
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<jekor> Ah.
<clever> jekor: try putting the config into /etc/nix/machines
<jekor> Interestingly it also broke on the single-user Nix install I had after upgrade.
<nikivi> So nix ties a program to specific versions of programs?
<nikivi> And that makes it `pure`?
<macslayer> nikivi: I find that for most cases, "impure" in reference to some computer system can usually be replaced with "poorly designed."
<macslayer> Or, "not cleanly designed."
<nikivi> I meant dependencies of the program
<infinisil> Oh lol, I always thought my /nix was about 17GB, but it turns out the ZFS compress ration is factored in, which is 2.2x in my case, so /nix contains really 37G of data
<infinisil> (while only using 17)
<gchristensen> nikivi: Nix never uses host dependencies, it always builds with exactly precise dependencies every time, and will always refer to them from then on
<nikivi> Wouldn't that carry a lot of weight?
<nikivi> So many programs
<infinisil> for zfs people: the logicalused property is what tells you the amount of data in a dataset
<nikivi> Or I misunderstand things
<clever> nikivi: if 2 programs use the exact same build, they will share that storepath, so there isnt a duplicate copy
<nikivi> Makes you wonder then why homebrew doesn't do it already
<nikivi> Seems like a smart thing for a package manager to do
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<nikivi> This is the talk I watched
<gchristensen> nikivi: it is hard to do and this idea of how to manage package managers isn't very common
<gchristensen> but yes,we do think it is smart
<gchristensen> and worth the weight :)
<nikivi> I assume nix has to be built in a functional language for this to work
<gchristensen> no, nix is written in C++, though Nix the language is functional
<jmc_fr> in emacs, `M-x org version' returns `8.2.10' -- I need org 9 -- I downloaded and copied org-9.1.6 in /home/jmc/.emacs.d/elpa/, but it does not help : how to override yhe default 8.2.10 ?
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<nikivi> Anyone here uses nix on macOS?
<gchristensen> many :) though a higher concentration in #nix-darwin
<jekor> clever: I put "nix@dev x86_64-linux /Users/jekor/.ssh/nix-dev 2" into /etc/nix/machines. Is that the format that it's using still? Will it have a problem with the ssh key being in my home dir/permissions?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c6b5f6 Michael Weiss: android-studio-preview: 3.1.0.5 -> 3.1.0.6
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<clever> jekor: i think that format will work, and the daemon runs as root, so it can read the key
<jekor> Is there a way to view the nix-daemon logs/see more verbose output? I'm running from nixops and --debug doesn't give detail on that.
<jekor> (on OS X)
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<clever> jekor: run "lsof -p <PID>" on the pid of nix-daemon, and check where stdout/stderr are directed
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<jekor> OK, I see /private/var/log/nix-daemon.log is full of "accepted connection from pid <unknown>, user jekor" but nothing else.
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<erlandsona> yegortimoshenko: http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/u3Qh1ndI :( Oh well gonna try and build the latest kernel with 17.09 and see how that goes?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 19659e4 Joachim F: Merge pull request #33530 from dtzWill/update/opera-50.0.2762.45...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 52f6a8e Will Dietz: opera: 48.0.2685.52 -> 50.0.2762.45
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 729f97e Orivej Desh: apache-httpd: respect review in #33481
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 45f6d97 Orivej Desh: mariadb: clean up during the rebuild from merging #33513
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 3e87443 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #33424 from andir/bluez-5.48...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 63ba455 Andreas Rammhold: bluez: 5.47 -> 5.48
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 3 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vNTbm
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 6e2cb1d Andreas Rammhold: bluez: use `dbus-python` for the python bindings. `dbus` does not provide any
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<`_> I've hit a bit of a roadblock. I've installed the nvidia drivers, and now slim doesn't want to start. It appears DISPLAY is unset
<`_> I haven't played much with GUI stuff in Linux, I'm mainly in the terminal
<`_> But right now I need my Rocket League fix.
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<chreekat> With a straightforward install of bup, `bup web` says to install the python module "tornado". The only way I've been able to actually 'install' tornado such that bup web can find it is with nix-shell -p pythonPackages.tornado. I'm not sure what, if anything, I can install into my environment to make it work. Any pointers?
<tilpner> Try putting python3.withPackages (p: [ p.tornado]) into your environment instead of normal python
<tilpner> (Or python.withPackages...)
<chreekat> tilpner: ah. I understand that, thanks
<chreekat> Next question, how would i express the dependency? Doing the above just installs tornado independently, but if I only have it around for bup, how do express that relationship?
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<jekor> For anyone reading these logs, I was able to get remote builds working on High Sierra by removing all previous Nix environment variables from my bash profile, installing nix-darwin (https://github.com/lnl7/nix-darwin), and setting nix.buildMachines in darwin-configuation.nix.
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<chreekat> By modifying the expression for bup, I suspect, but it's sort of hairy
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<LnL> jekor: \o/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ThomasMader opened pull request #33532: ldc: 1.5.0 -> 1.7.0 (master...ldc1.7.0) https://git.io/vNTpt
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<LnL> jekor: take a look at /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.nixos.nix-daemon.plist you need to configure the environment variables like that
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<tilpner> chreekat - None of this should be necessary, bup is wrapped to provide tornado O.o
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<tilpner> chreekat - I have no idea how bup or python packaging works, but I think I fixed this particular error
<chreekat> tilpner: yeah, the wrapping made me think that was probably true, but even installing from nixpkgs HEAD didn't make it work for me. Possibly user error, but *shrug*
<chreekat> oh, but there was in fact something that needed fixing?
<tilpner> I think so, yes
<chreekat> cool
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #33533: micro: init at 1.3.4 (master...feature/micro) https://git.io/vNThq
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<chreekat> It probably doesn't help that bup lives outside the usual python workflow, I assume because it has its own custom Makefile etc
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<tilpner> Do you want to test with my changes? (Do you know how that works if I just give you a .nix file?)
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<chreekat> tilpner: can you push a branch somewhere? I can pull/build/compare locally
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<chreekat> I see the change you made ,i'll just try it locally :)
<tilpner> No, I don't have a branch to push. Can you put this in an overlay, or put (callPackage ./path/to/my/bup.nix {}) into your systemPackages?
<chreekat> it works
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<chreekat> tilpner: ^
<chreekat> While you're at it, fetchurl isn't used anywhere and can be removed from the arg list
<chreekat> thanks though! I see the fix and it all makes sense
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<tilpner> Good, guess I have to PR this now...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gazally opened pull request #33535: arduino: 1.8.2 -> 1.8.5 (master...arduino-update) https://git.io/vNTjq
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] GRBurst opened pull request #33536: idea-community: 2017.3 -> 2017.3.2 (master...idea_2017.3.2) https://git.io/vNTjE
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<joshuaks> Hey guys!
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<tilpner> chreekat - Well, if NixOS_GitHub isn't going to announce it... https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/33537
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<chreekat> nice
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1aca02b adisbladis: openslp: Fix CVE-2016-4912
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis opened pull request #33539: libcroco: Fixes for CVE-2017-7960 & CVE-2017-7961 (master...libcroco-cves) https://git.io/vNkvl
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<infinisil> nixpkgs/33537
<infinisil> nixpkgs#33537
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/33537 (by tilpner, open): bup: PYTHONPATH -> withPackages
<tilpner> :)
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<infinisil> And I think it's time for my monthly merge request for nixpkgs#30518, adds "It Just Works (tm)" iOS tethering
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/30518 (by Infinisil, open): usbmuxd service: init
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #30518: usbmuxd service: init (master...usbmuxd-service) https://git.io/vd9YV
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<infinisil> :OOO
<tilpner> That was fast
<infinisil> thanks gchristensen :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #33482: sharutils: don't hardcode AR (staging...fix/sharutils-ar) https://git.io/vNUwp
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNkfI
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3165a08 adisbladis: Merge pull request #33537 from tilpner/bup-pythonpackages...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d0601b6 tilpner: bup: PYTHONPATH -> withPackages...
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<tilpner> chreekat - ^
<adisbladis> <3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #33541: lit: 0.5.0 -> 0.5.1 (master...update/lit-0.5.1) https://git.io/vNkft
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<tilpner> Thanks, adisbladis! :)
<adisbladis> Thanks yourself
<dhess> What is Ericson2314's irc nick, again?
<dhess> from Github I mean
<adisbladis> dhess: Sonarpulse
<ixxie> does anybody know how to deal with git messing around with autogenerated node-packages files?
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<ixxie> I ran the script but git somehow detects the differences and makes a merge
<dhess> right thanks
<ixxie> oh damn
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<ixxie> I just realized this is a bad time to rebuild that >.<
<ixxie> I guess I will try again tomorrow :)
<ixxie> gnight folks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNkfQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 09cab91 Robert Helgesson: eclipse-plugin-spotbugs: 3.1.0 -> 3.1.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 643d832 Robert Helgesson: josm: 13053 -> 13265
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4e15361 Robert Helgesson: abcmidi: 2017.12.20 -> 2018.01.02
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<pie__> i thought the perl dependency got removed, why does https://github.com/NixOS/nix/tree/master/perl still exist?
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<bkchr> Hi, can I cross compile nixpkgs for mac os from NixOs? :D
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<dhess> nix-build --keep-failed doesn't work for remote builds. Is this a known thing and is there any way to work around it?
<dhess> "doesn't work" as in doesn't keep the build directory around on the remote builder
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<tilpner> bkchr - It seems possible, I just built hello for x86_64-darwin, and $out/bin contained a Mach-O executable
<gchristensen> pie__: eelco doesn't like to delete branches
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<pie__> gchristensen, i dont see how that applies?
<gchristensen> oh, oops, I thought it was a branch named perl, missed master.
<tilpner> bkchr - You could try nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A hello --argstr system x86_64-linux. I've heard this works, but it never did for me
<tilpner> s/linux/darwin/
<bkchr> tilpner: if that works, wow! It is doing something, let's see what happens :D
<tilpner> If you have nixUnstable, it will ignore the system argument and build for your host system. Or at least that's what I think is happening...
<LnL> that works as long as you have some way to build that system, eg. build-remote
<tilpner> LnL - Do I need a remote to build hello for Darwin? It seems to work fine, just not with --arg
<tilpner> (Obviously I can't test the output binary)
<LnL> you can also use that to check evaluation failures for a platform you don't have access to
<LnL> oh, if it's in the cache then it will just work
<bkchr> Ahh error: a ‘x86_64-darwin’ is required to build ‘/nix/store/40j70anjycw2p8qizwzsy2piscq0j4a9-qtbase-5.10.0.drv’, but I am a ‘x86_64-linux’
<dhess> if that works it's probably because it grabbed it out of the binary cache
<tilpner> Ah, that explains it :c
<dhess> yeah what LnL said
<bkchr> :(
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* tilpner shouldn't attempt to answer questions for systems he's never used
<LnL> dhess: --keep-failed works fine AFAIK
<bkchr> tilpner: no problem :D
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<dhess> LnL: huh it did not for me
<bkchr> But it would be nice, so that I could fix build problems for mac os^^
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<dhess> LnL: I mean on a remote builder, you saw that bit?
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<LnL> yes
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<LnL> I've done that before when debugging output cycles
<dhess> I just did that from an x86_64-linux host building on an armv7l-linux remote and the /tmp/... build directory was removed on the remote
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<dhess> Did this from nixpkgs master repo TLD: nix-build pkgs/top-level/release.nix --arg supportedSystems "[\"armv7l-linux\"]" -A gcc --keep-failed
<erlandsona> Anyone here savvy with getting the nvidia drivers to compile into the kernel with the real-time patches eg: from Musnix?
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<nixy_> Whenever I try to run nix-env -qas, I get hundreds of lines of output saying that "download-from-binary-cache.pl: still waiting for 'https://cache.nixos.org/xxxxxx.narinfo' after 5 seconds ...". After ~20 sec, it output stops and I have to press CTRL+C to get back to the interactive prompt. If it helps, I'm trying out NixOS 17.09 in a VM with a decent Internet connection.
<nixy_> I've seen several issues open on GitHub which are related to this issue but all of them have been closed without any solution or fix that works.
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<bkchr> Maybe someone has a better idea to debug building mac os on linux?
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<macslayer> Why am I hearing so much stuff about Mac OS X on this channel? I thought NixOS was a Linux distribution.
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<gchristensen> macslayer: #nixos is also the channel to discuss Nix, which is usable on MacOS and other Linuxes
<samueldr> this channel is also the channel for `nix`, which also supports macOS... you will also hear about nix usage on other distros
<gchristensen> samueldr: :D
<samueldr> ninja'd
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<macslayer> haha
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<macslayer> Oh, okay, didn't know it could bel separated from the distro.
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<gchristensen> indeed :) Nix is very helpful separate from NixOS
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #33542: ocamlPackages.mstruct: 1.3.3 -> 1.4.0 (master...ocaml-mstruct-1.4.0) https://git.io/vNkUx
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<macslayer> What do people use it for? Just a package manager that's an alternative to something like `pacman`, `yum`, or HomeBrew?
<tilpner> While it's sort-of on-topic: Is there any support to compile for non-Nix systems? E.g. a dynamic library I can load on a Debian without patchelf-ing it?
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<tilpner> I guess compiling inside a UserFHS might be enough?
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<infinisil> macslayer: There is home-manager (https://github.com/rycee/home-manager), which uses the nixos module system to manage your home directory, really nice, and it works on osx too
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<adisbladis> macslayer: We are quite a few people using it for reproducible development environments
<macslayer> Oh, that's really cool. So some people use NixOS to manage `/`, and another instance of `nix` to manage `/home`?
<infinisil> there are no 'instances' of nix, what nixos and home-manager have in common is that they use the nixos module system (the thing that let's you specify a configuration.nix), but they differ in that they provide different modules, nixos for system stuff, home-manager for files/packages/services in the users home directory
<infinisil> nix itself is pretty much always just used to build an output ($out) of a set of inputs (the nix files)
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<macslayer> Ahh okay
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<samueldr> macslayer: I personnally have had success with my dev team, using `nix` and `nix-shell` as a kind of "{bundler,composer,yarn}, but for all the apps", no-one in my dev team needs to install the software needed for development, except for nix, and even then, they all forgot :)
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<samueldr> it's been used on NixOS, archlinux, fedora, ubuntu and macOS, without issues
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis closed pull request #33541: lit: 0.5.0 -> 0.5.1 (master...update/lit-0.5.1) https://git.io/vNkft
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<infinisil> i very often when I see somebody online having problems with a certain package on their PM, feel like suggesting Nix to them instead, since Nix and its package set works flawlessly on any linux, which not a lot of PM's can say
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<macslayer> samueldr: That's really awesome, so everyone can use their comfy development environment, regardless of OS, and still have the same libraries and such
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<samueldr> about the same, and windows is *unsupported* where I work (though, to be honest, it's only because none of the devs yet really wanted to work on windows)
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<samueldr> (there are differences between macOS and Linux, from the fact that the platforms are different)
<samueldr> (and the host operating system can cause side-effects since we aren't using pure environments)
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ecc8eb60ab9 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ThomasMader opened pull request #33543: dtools: 2.075.1 -> 2.078.0 (master...dtools2.078.0) https://git.io/vNkIt
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<hyper_ch> makefu: I'm trying to write a script to make it more usable
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNkIV
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d3ad52a Robin Gloster: gnome3.nautilus-sendto: fix build
<makefu> hyper_ch: do you have default routing configured on openwrt/lede?
<hyper_ch> makefu: why?
<makefu> just asking :D
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<hyper_ch> postup / postdown for adding and removing when the interface comes up or down
<makefu> i had some issues that wireguard starts too early after reboot which results in no default routing being available
<jekor> Sadly nix-darwin seems to be breaking something else (end up with packages depending on broken OS X 10.11 library with missing symlinks).
<hyper_ch> yeah, wg doesn't also like some other stuff
<jekor> But nix-darwin seems to fix remote builds by what it's doing via the NixOS module for enabling distributedBuilds.
<hyper_ch> on notebook and kvm server it doesn't get auto-started becuase it fails at some stuff
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis opened pull request #33544: openssl_1_1_0: Fix CVE-2017-3738 (staging...CVE-2017-3738) https://git.io/vNkIH
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<jekor> Unfortunately it seems to do this at the cost of using its own bash profile.
<makefu> i've added an after = ["network-online.target"]; to the service
<hyper_ch> makefu: tried different things as well... if you figure it out, let me know :)
<jekor> What's the correct way to change environment variables for nix-daemon on OS X?
<hyper_ch> makefu: but have a look at the script for auto-making stuff through the vpn - https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/e9bf5ff3
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<hyper_ch> off to bed now
<samueldr> anyone using grafana to graph stuff on their desktop/laptops? I'm currently using munin, and I'm confused by the whole grafana ecosystem, I'm looking for both opinions and facts
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<samueldr> I'm looking to look at the same kind of metrics, like load average, disk usage, memory/cpu use, etc
<jekor> Or rather, how do I get the effect of nix.envVars from the nix-daemon NixOS module without using NixOS?
<makefu> hyper_ch: btw it seems that it is enough to just route to the interface , see https://git.shackspace.de/krebs/stockholm/blob/master/makefu/1systems/vbob/config.nix#L58-63
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<makefu> samueldr: i use grafana for that stuff, but together with collectd
<makefu> (and telegraf)
<samueldr> ugh, another name I haven't looked at yet (collectd)
<samueldr> makefu: using it on server or desktop/laptop?
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<jekor> Set them in org.nixos.nix-daemon.plist? It didn't seem to work.
<makefu> it is a relatively lightweight daemon for collecting logs, check out https://git.shackspace.de/krebs/stockholm/blob/master/makefu/2configs/stats/client.nix
<LnL> jekor: you'll also need to unload/load the service to apply that
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<makefu> samueldr: server, laptop and router
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<samueldr> grafana looks awesome, but I'm getting dizzy from all the names :)
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<makefu> you will get used to it quite quickly after just a bit of hands-on
<jekor> LnL: Ha, I had thought that stop/start was enough. It's working now. Thank you.
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<jekor> ...and it turns out that nix-darwin was not at fault for the error.
<LnL> jekor: if you have any idea why your issues might be related to nix-darwin please let me know
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<LnL> oh :)
<jekor> I'm getting "dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_coretls.dylib". I thought this was fixed on High Sierra with the latest Nix/nixpkgs?
<jekor> LnL: Thanks for nix-darwin. I had been sorely missing a system configuration file.
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<samueldr> makefu: so, uh, it goes {telegraf/collectd} → influxdb → grafana?
<samueldr> how well does your setup handles not being able to talk to the server?
<samueldr> is the data dropped?
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<samueldr> (that's the main thing I have trouble finding information about)
<makefu> samueldr: yes exactly. collectd is udp, so stuff will just be dropped
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<makefu> wabout telegraf, i am not sure, i've always used the special logging stuff directly on the same server
* srid tried and gave up on installing nixos on the dedicated server at ovh.com
<samueldr> I don't know, I'm still trying to grok how it should all work
<samueldr> srid: ovh, soyoustart or kimsufi?
<LnL> jekor: it's possible something changed with a recent update, but that specific error does indeed sound familiar
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<seanparsons> Is there a way to make cabal2nix honour the versions of dependencies in the cabal file? Like if I specify `units` as a dependency with ==2.4.1, it creates the appropriate content to use that version rather than 2.4 from nixpkgs.
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<raynold> Ahh it's a wonderful day
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