gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos to: Share the output of nix-shell -p nix-info --run nix-info to help us help you. || https://nixos.org || Latest NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html || Latest Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html || Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/nixos/ || #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin, #nixos-aarch64
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNyk5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 462f34c Silvan Mosberger: zncModules: backlog init at 2017-06-13
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a3620bc Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #34310 from Infinisil/add/znc-backlog...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rnhmjoj opened pull request #34367: pdns-recursor: 4.0.8 -> 4.1.1 (master...pdns) https://git.io/vNyIC
<tilpner> Aren't NixOS declarative containers supposed to be updated in place? It seems my changes only take effect after running "nixos-container update foo", not on "nixos-rebuild switch" (like stated in the manual)
<tilpner> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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<tmplt> I'm having wifi problems. How can I remove everything NetworkManager related and start over? Set networking.networkmanager.enable to false, rebuild, and reenable it?
<tilpner> Carefully try sudo rm -rf /var/lib/NetworkManager/*
<tilpner> Actually, maybe do sudo -sE, then rm -rf /var/lib/NetworkManager/*
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<KingOfThePirates> does anyone know how to mount nixos by any chance
<KingOfThePirates> i'm having problems
<tilpner> What do you mean by mount?
<tilpner> Are you in a rescue system and trying to fix things?
<KingOfThePirates> i'm trying to install nixos via nix
<KingOfThePirates> in the manual at the start of install https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#idm140737316951616
<KingOfThePirates> i did nixos-generate-config
<KingOfThePirates> whoops
<KingOfThePirates> nix-env -f '<nixpkgs/nixos>' --arg configuration {} -iA config.system.build.nixos-install
<KingOfThePirates> i did that. and then i don't know how to get nixos-generate-config
<tmplt> tilpner: doing that and restarting fixed it, but it still has the saved networks. Are these stored elsewhere also?
<tilpner> KingOfThePirates - Try nix-env -f '<nixpkgs/nixos>' --arg configuration {} -iA config.system.build.nixos-generate-config
<KingOfThePirates> i believe i got a successful result with mkfs.ext4 -L protonixos1 /dev/nvme0n1p9. but only "lost+found"
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8853d44 rnhmjoj: pdns-recursor: 4.0.8 -> 4.1.1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNyLL
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0e81697 Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #34367 from rnhmjoj/pdns...
<infinisil> Probably not many people here now, but
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #32016: syncthing-gtk: 0.9.2.3 → 0.9.2.7 (master...syncthing-gtk) https://git.io/vFh0r
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<infinisil> Does anybody know whether .AppImage stuff can be run on nixos?
<tilpner> tmplt - /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #34277: syncthing-gtk: explicitly depend on gobjectIntrospection (master...fix/syncthing-gtk_namespace-gtk-not-available) https://git.io/vNPSx
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<tilpner> infinisil - Maybe with a wrapper. steam-run refuses to, it's missing libfuse
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<KingOfThePirates> oh wow i didn't realize /dev/disk/by-label was an actual directory. i thought it was trying to give an idea
<KingOfThePirates> tilpner: thanks that probably fixed it let me see
<tmplt> tilpner: cheers
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #33900: nixos/nginx: allow using existing ACME certificate (master...nginx-acme) https://git.io/vNCz3
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<infinisil> `tree /dev/disk` is a super useful command`
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<qwebirc763350> do i need to change directory to the target system to do nixos-generate-config --root /mnt?
<qwebirc763350> because it's telling me it's not a directory
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<tilpner> Is there something mounted to /mnt?
<qwebirc763350> there's lost+found
<qwebirc763350> idk why
<qwebirc763350> i didn't ever type that
<tilpner> That sounds good though
<qwebirc763350> oh?
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<qwebirc763350> i see this https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/46142 but i'm still unable to think of a next step
<tilpner> I don't know how to help you. This is the point where I usually ask you to run some commands and paste the result, but you can't do that, and hand-copying the result is tedious
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] flokli opened pull request #34368: backport borgbackup 1.1.4 for release-17.09 (release-17.09...borgbackup-1.1.4) https://git.io/vNytG
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<qwebirc763350> darn. thanks though
<tilpner> I fairly certain nixos-generate-config will also mkdir /etc/nixos, but you can try doing that manually, I guess
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<tilpner> (So mkdir /mnt/etc/nixos, but it's not going to do anything)
<tilpner> I guess you can take photos and upload them?
<tilpner> :(
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<qwebirc763350> i can paste btw
<qwebirc763350> mkdir /mnt/etc/protonixos1mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/etc/protonixos1’: No such file or directory
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<qwebirc763350> mkdir /mnt/etc/nvme0n0p1 mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/etc/nvme0n0p1’: No such file or directory
<qwebirc763350> mkdir /mnt/etc/nvme0n0p9 mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/etc/nvme0n0p9’: No such file or directory
<gchristensen> O.o
<tilpner> 1. How can you paste? (Is this a VM install?) 2. What did you paste?
<qwebirc763350> it's an install to an ssd
<buhman> does it work as well as it's implied?
<tilpner> ... it's clearly too late for rational thought. Of course you can paste when you're doing a just-Nix install -.-
<qwebirc763350> hehe
<gchristensen> buhman: yes
<tilpner> qwebirc763350 - Okay, "stat /mnt", and paste the shell session where you ran nixos-generate-config, including the error
<tilpner> (To gist.github.com)
<qwebirc763350> what do you mean by shell session?
<qwebirc763350> just copy and paste the input and output?
<tilpner> Yeah, that works
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<qwebirc763350> kingofthepirates@kingofthepirates-Blade-Stealth:/mnt$ stat /mnt File: /mnt Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory Device: 10309h/66313dInode: 2 Links: 3 Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) Access: 2018-01-28 15:53:41.247622870 -0600 Modify: 2018-01-28 15:50:34.000000000 -0600 Change: 2018-01-28 15:50:34.000000000 -0600 Birth: -
<tilpner> :c
<gchristensen> qwebirc763350: maybe use a pastebin like nixpaste.lbr.uno/ or ix.io
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<qwebirc763350> for nixpaste, i change the drop down to shell right
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<gchristensen> or just text
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<qwebirc763350> so do i put in my command or just paste everything in there?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] esoeylemez closed pull request #30858: python: pymysql 0.6.6 -> 0.7.11 (master...ertes-py-pymysql) https://git.io/vFTIc
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<qwebirc763350> it looks really cool but idk how to connect it to my shell
<gchristensen> well when tilpner asked for "stat /mnt" run that on your computer, then copy-paste the output in to the text box
<qwebirc763350> way
<qwebirc763350> too
<qwebirc763350> cool
<qwebirc763350> i like that thing
<tilpner> More importantly, I asked for "the shell session where you ran nixos-generate-config, including the error"
<tilpner> :)
<qwebirc763350> oh so how do i deliver this
<tilpner> You can just run "nixos-generate-config --root /mnt" again and paste the output
<tilpner> You could also copy and paste the history of your shell/terminal, so that we can see what you did before
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<qwebirc763350> shell session http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/w6Uv23Ni
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<tilpner> Okay, uhm, that's technically the shell history, and it's helpful, but we still haven't seen the initial error :)
<qwebirc763350> is there a history that shows this?
<qwebirc763350> i'm new to linux if you can tell
<tilpner> I don't think so. I was expecting you to copy the recent lines with your mouse, instead of finding the proper history
<tilpner> You can just run "nixos-generate-config --root /mnt" again and paste the output
<qwebirc763350> mmm ok
<tilpner> You said earlier "it's telling me it's not a directory", but the exact error message might be slightly different :/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #32935: wakatime: Explicit `checkPhase` (master...wakatime-fix) https://git.io/vbyDf
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<qwebirc763350> now i'm getting tired http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/qeMvPCn8?sh maybe i should do this in the morning :/
<qwebirc763350> i'm in ubuntu if that is helpful at all
<qwebirc763350> i closed out of the shell that had my original command
<qwebirc763350> now i'm getting different outputs
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<tilpner> Wait, you closed your shell?
<qwebirc763350> i even restarted my computer
<tilpner> That should not cause nixos-generate-config to be uninstalled
<qwebirc763350> yeah you can see in the nixpaste that i still have it
<qwebirc763350> but it won't run
<tilpner> This is susipicious, but I'm tired too. I'll help you with it later today/tomorrow? :)
<qwebirc763350> but before it did run and it said something along the lines of it "is not a directory"
<qwebirc763350> even when i did fdisk --list and copy and pasted
<qwebirc763350> yeah tomorrow lol
<qwebirc763350> thank you though :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #34369: postfix: 3.2.4 -> 3.2.5 (master...postfix) https://git.io/vNymx
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<`_> I fear one-click installation isn't quite as easy as the manual or Hydra make it out to be, at least for firefox, chrome, and opera.
<`_> As far as I know, these browsers default to xdg-open, so /nix/bin/nix-install-package would need to register itself as an application.
<`_> Could be different for something along the lines of GNOME or KDE, but I'm in xmonad.
<gchristensen> ahh... one-click-install is all-but-dead, `_
<`_> Oh for real
<`_> Well nevermind then lol
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<gchristensen> sorry :$
<`_> No worries, thanks for letting me know
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<`_> No sense jumping down a rabbit hole that's going to lead me nowhere
<macslayer> So if I set `fonts.fontconfig.defaultFonts.monospace` to a list including some font, does that make that font the default monospace font?
<macslayer> I have a few applications that use FontConfig's `monospace` font, but when I set that in my NixOS configuration file and rebuild, `fc-match monospace` is still the default value: DejaVu Sans Mono.
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/78e9665b48f (from 3 weeks ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03-small)
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<macslayer> I'm having difficulty even getting my default fonts set with `.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf`.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to gcc-7: https://git.io/vNyYp
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/gcc-7 f03c188 Tuomas Tynkkynen: Merge commit '0f21306ca3af2bc94a452ac8c414cdbe36703be2' into gcc-7
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b77ed4322ec (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 147f3d4 Peter Hoeg: qutebrowser: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNy3C
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<Profpatsch> gchristensen: Do you ever go to bed?
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<gchristensen> Profpatsch: do _you_ ever go to bed?
<Profpatsch> gchristensen: no!
<Profpatsch> You are in Europe, right?
<fearlessKim[m]> shouldn't nox-review ignore overlays ? It now fails with this stupid error `while evaluating the attribute ‘src’ of the derivation ‘neovim-local’ ... file ‘/home/teto/neovim/Xtest-tmpdir/nvimK36ITf/0’ has an unsupported type`.
<gchristensen> Profpatsch: I'm in Massachusetts :) America/New_York
<Profpatsch> Ah, okay.
<Profpatsch> Then it’s kinda okay.
<Profpatsch> 5am round here. :P
<gchristensen> :D its just about 11 here. I have CET in my status bar though because of all the CET people here ^.^
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<clever> its 11:52 pm here
<gchristensen> clever: I always forget there is another timezone over there
<simpson> I thought that we were all nocturnal~
<clever> i find a lot of americans thinking that the entire continent ends at their shore line, lol
<gchristensen> clever: classic american move :)
<clever> "2018-01-28 23:54:20 bedroom temp: 21.44c(70.59f), kitchen: 19.12c(66.43f), living room: 18.44c(65.19f), outdoor: -7.56c(18.39f), server: 21.56c(70.81f) VCC: over 4.5 volts portb: 00000000"
<clever> was up to +4c outside this afternoon, but its already gotten pretty chilly
<gchristensen> ( ﾟヮﾟ) samueldr added linking to exact attempts: https://logs.nix.gsc.io/?attempt_id=59471d2f-df1b-420b-9442-d9c3478ba85b&key=nixos%2Fnixpkgs.34363
<ertes> if i'm adding an unfree package, should i just give it the "unfree" license, or should i add the actual license to /lib/licenses.nix?
<ertes> the latter for the sake of having the link to the actual license
<ertes> or should i even just inline the license in the meta field?
<disasm> clever: can I PM you?
<clever> sure
<ertes> (this is about the ACC compiler, which compiles zdoom/hexen/heretic scripts… it was released by raven software together with the hexen/heretic source code, but unlike those it was never officially GPL-ed, so at this point i can only assume that it still has the original unfree license)
<simpson> ertes: I think that licenses.nix is the right thing to do, and that'll be a place where you can specify the URL and `unfree = true;`.
<ertes> ok, thanks
<simpson> Or sorry, `free = false;` apparently: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/lib/licenses.nix#L36-L40
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<ertes> do i have to give the license a fullName/shortName? because it doesn't really have one
<ertes> "Activision EULA" is rather unspecific
<simpson> You could try leaving them blank.
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<ertes> hmm… after some research it looks like the state of ACC's licensing is even less clear than i thought… i'll just use the unfree license, as it looks like it's doomed to stay this way
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<simpson> That's common with abandonware. Maybe the surely-inevitable Rust rewrite will be Free Software.
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<ertes> i thought of doing just that, except in haskell =)
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<ertes> ACC is actually quite small, so i'm surprised nobody has done it before
<ertes> everything else in the doom ecosystem is free software
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] esoeylemez opened pull request #34372: acc: init at 1.56 (master...ertes-acc) https://git.io/vNyZE
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<grantwu> How do I uninstall ipython?
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<grantwu> I can never figure out what I'm supposed to pass to nix-env -e
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<vaibhavsagar> grantwu: look at the output of `nix-env -q`
<vaibhavsagar> specifying the exact version has worked for me in the past
<grantwu> Oh, I didn't try nix-env -q without something after it
<grantwu> Thanks
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<hyper_ch> Mic92: stability patch for zfs will probably be merged this week
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<dhess> hmm, `cabal2nix cabal://semigroups` generates a .nix file that is missing basically all of semigroups's dependencies. Anyone know why?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #34373: glibc: Fix Darwin build (staging...glib-darwin) https://git.io/vNyCO
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<dhess> Possibly has something to do with cabal.projectfiles
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<dhess> ohhh I needed --compiler=ghc-7.10
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vNyC8
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vNyCV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 82ebace John Ericson: glibc: Fix Darwin build...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging a073e7f Vladimír Čunát: Merge #34373: add comment to the first-parent commit...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #34373: glibc: Fix Darwin build (staging...glib-darwin) https://git.io/vNyCO
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<binh_> hi guys, I'm new to nixos
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<binh_> I got trouble with install package and find package
<binh_> example
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<binh_> there is package for dbeaver
<binh_> but using nix-env -qaP didn't found one
<binh_> and I don't know how to install this package by looking at the default.nix
<srhb> binh_: It might not be in your channel.
<srhb> binh_: Are you using stable?
<binh_> yes
<srhb> binh_: That's why. It'll be in the 18.03 release.
<binh_> ok, so could I download the nix file and install manually ?
<srhb> binh_: A better solution would be to add the unstable channel and grab it from there
<srhb> While keeping the rest of your system on stable
<grantwu> /close
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<srhb> Lemme see if I remember the right trigger...
<srhb> !channels
<srhb> Clearly not.
<binh_> I can handle from here, thank you very much srhb
<srhb> binh_: OK, great :)
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<jluttine[m]> Where are the nixpkgs files in nix store? And how do I know which is the current one?
<jluttine[m]> I booted to live usb and mounted my system to /mnt
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<jluttine[m]> So a bit difficult for me..
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<etu> jluttine[m]: echo $NIX_PATH
<etu> and you can see which nixpkgs is in use
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<jluttine[m]> Nope, that gives the one provided by the live usb
<etu> oh
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<vaibhavsagar> jluttine[m]: that is the nixpkgs in use
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<etu> vaibhavsagar: I don't think jluttine[m] were looking for the ones in use then, the one that was current on his/her partition or something like that.
<vaibhavsagar> fair enough
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<spear2> jluttine[m]: maybe you want $ nix-instantiate --find-file nixpkgs ?
<spear2> readlink -f $(nix-instantiate --find-file nixpgs) gives a store path
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jwiegley pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNyBg
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e58adb9 John Wiegley: myEnvFun: fix sed script edit
<clever> vaibhavsagar: also check the ~/.nix-defexpr/ symlink
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis closed pull request #34369: postfix: 3.2.4 -> 3.2.5 (master...postfix) https://git.io/vNymx
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<lonokhov> o/
<lonokhov> Is it ok that pandoc from nixpkgs-unstable has huge closure even though it has haskell.lib.justStaticExecutables applied in all-packages.nix?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 4z3 opened pull request #34374: urlwatch: 2.7 -> 2.8 (master...urlwatch-2.8) https://git.io/vNyzh
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<lonokhov> vaibhavsagar: yeah, justStaticExecutables was added which increased output size (expected) but also increased closure size (unexpected)
<lonokhov> I've run `strings` on executable and it has refs to some directories in /nix/store which it shouldn't.
<vaibhavsagar> lonokhov: justStaticExecutables is misleadingly named, it only statically links haskell libraries but not system libraries
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<vaibhavsagar> if you want fully static executables, try http://vaibhavsagar.com/blog/2018/01/03/static-haskell-nix/
<lonokhov> vaibhavsagar: the problem is not the system libraries
<lonokhov> For some reason it has refs to haskell libs. Found via strings. RPATH is clean.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f8c4ccd Moritz Ulrich: ws: Init at 0.2.1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] the-kenny pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNy2s
<the-kenny> Could anyone familiar with Emacs and/or Darwin take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/33416 ? It would be nice to have this merged soonish.
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<LnL> I'm not an emacs user, but I don't see anything darwin related in there
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<Lisanna> Does --show-trace get better in 1.12?
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<Lisanna> seems like it only prints out useful information about half the time in 1.11 :/
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/147f3d4d819 (from 7 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eaaca14 Franz Pletz: p7zip: add patch to fix CVE-2017-17969
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNywc
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<winem_> hi, quick question. would something like nix-env -i xxx --arg-str version 3.2.1 work to install version 3.2.1 of xxx?
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<Lisanna> winem_ I can't think of anything in nixpkgs that would respond to that
<Lisanna> in contrast to popular package repositories, nixpkgs doesn't do so well in maintaining multitudinous versions of everything (although imho there's no technical reason for this >_>)
<winem_> ah, brainfart. would be xxx-3.2.1. 3.2.1 is the version number in default.nix? I mean, I know and understand the arguments to keep the latest version and provide it, but I have to think about edge cases where itm ight be required to install a previous version
<Lisanna> so if package foo has multiple versions available, they'll be named differently. e.g., look at: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html#gcc-wrapper
<Lisanna> if you need an exact version of something and nixpkgs doesn't offer it, usually you can download the .nix file for it and build it yourself
<winem_> I'm more concerned about managing our own applications via our own nix-repo
<Lisanna> Sure, then in that case just name everything "${name}-${version}"
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<Lisanna> ah, wait, that won't work, since names can't have dots in them
<winem_> ok, it wouldn't be a big deal to replace dots by dashes e.g.
<Lisanna> then sure, that'd work fine
<infinisil> they can have dots
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 7 new commits to release-17.09: https://git.io/vNyrq
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 6d6aa67 rnhmjoj: pdns-recursor: 4.0.8 -> 4.1.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 d8452a9 Franz Pletz: p7zip: add patch to fix CVE-2017-17969...
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<Lisanna> infinisil they're attrset keys, how could the possibly have dots
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis closed pull request #34374: urlwatch: 2.7 -> 2.8 (master...urlwatch-2.8) https://git.io/vNyzh
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<winem_> oh wait, are you sure? just saw that one of our devs uses name = "inhouse-${version}"; version = "1.3.0" and it passed the tests.
<infinisil> Lisanna: what do you mean? a version usually isn't an attribute key, it's a value of one
<infinisil> And attribute names can have dots in them too ( { "foo.bar" = "foo"; } )
<Lisanna> winem_ the name of the package that you will use in a nix-env command is not the same as the "name = "blah";" line in your mkDerivation {}
<infinisil> winem_: Sometimes it's possible to get an older version by checking out a previous version of nixpkgs where the package is still an older versions one
<infinisil> But that won't include every version, just a couple specific ones
<Lisanna> infinisil I didn't know that - so why aren't there any attribute names in nixpkgs with dots in them?
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<infinisil> Lisanna: because it usually doesn't make sense to want it? A single usecase I know of is `nginx.virtualHosts."www.example.com" = ... `
<Lisanna> nix-env -i hello-2.10
<Lisanna> it would be great for version numbers
<Lisanna> unrelated: is nix-push safe to run against a live binary cache? Couldn't find any mention of this in the manual.
<infinisil> it would be a pain to have every version in nixpkgs thoug
<Lisanna> not saying you should have every version in nixpkgs
<Lisanna> just, name the versions you *do* have with that format
<Lisanna> that's the format the package name uses, and it's the format that other popular package mangers use
<Lisanna> for some reason nixpkgs just sort of ac-hocs it every time it's needed
<Lisanna> "gcc49"
<infinisil> ohh, i think i know why
<infinisil> dots in names do have a big problem
<Lisanna> Yeah
<Lisanna> oh yeah, those won't work on the command line
<infinisil> callPackage doesn't work for them
<Lisanna> nix-env -i \"hello-2.10\"
<Lisanna> or something
<infinisil> { libfoo, gcc4.9 }: ... isn't a valid nix expression, neither is { libfoo, "gcc4.9" }: ...
<infinisil> and it doesn't work with callPackage for that reason
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<joko> Hey, I would like to do something like: map (builtins.fromJson builtins.readFile) [ file1 file2 ]
<manveru> environment.etc."foo.conf".text = "" is another case :)
<sphalerite> Sonarpulse: (or anyone else who knows) what does cross-compilation in nixpkgs look like right now? I'd like to get myself some static dropbear+uclibc goodness for MIPS
<joko> I think I need something like the $ operator in Haskell
<sphalerite> joko: you mean the . operator. We don't have one unfortunately so you'll need to compose them manually
<joko> right
<joko> okidoki
<sphalerite> map (f: builtins.fromJson (builtins.readFile f)) [ file1 file2]
<joko> sphalerite: many thanks!
<sphalerite> you could of course do something like let compose = f: g: x: f (g x); in map (compose builtins.fromJson builtins.readFile) [ file1 file2 ]
<joko> sphalerite: I see what you mean, right
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<lexwhatever> G'day everybody!)
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<ij> I'm building a derivation from my development repo dir that also holds tons of garbage, .git and vendor/. Is there any way not to make nix copy all of that to the store? Has anyone else struggled with this?
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<infinisil> ij: lib.cleanSource ./.
<lexwhatever> I can't install prebuilt binaries with "nix-env -iAb nixos.nix-index; echo $?;" exit code is 0 and nix-env doesn't tell me why or what gone wrong. is anyone could suggest how to install resolve this?
<infinisil> ij: look at the source of cleanSource to see how to filter other stuff (cleanSource filters .git and a couple other things)
<ij> infinisil: but does it simply make a new derivation or it actually doesn't copy that stuff?
<ij> I guess I can just look at the source and figure it out myself.
<infinisil> ij: it actually doesn't copy the stuff
<ij> NICE!
<infinisil> it uses builtins.filterSource to allow for that
<infinisil> nixpkgs/lib/sources.nix is very informative
<ij> Yup, checking it out already.
<ij> Nixpkgs source is usually quite comprehendable.
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<lexwhatever> Excuse me, m'ladies, I can't install prebuilt binaries with "nix-env -iAb nixos.nix-index; echo $?;" exit code is 0 and nix-env doesn't tell me why or what gone wrong. is anyone could suggest how to install resolve this?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNyKp
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 329ebdf Jörg Thalheim: firefox-beta-bin: 59.0b3 -> 59.0b5
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<infinisil> lexwhatever: and you don't have nix-index available? it's not installed?
<sphalerite> lexwhatever: I'd say it's just imprecision in the documentation
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<sphalerite> lexwhatever: so the -b flag means "try to get it, but not very hard"
<sphalerite> infinisil: can confirm that if you use -b it will fail silently to install anything that's not available in the cache
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<chaker> Hey teozkr, So I managed to update sbtix to 1.0.0, now it compiles correctly. I updated the needed deps updates to to use the latest API accordingly. But when I try to generate the dependecies for sbtix itself using the jar that I got after `sbt package` I get `no main manifest attribute, in ./target/scala-2.12/sbt-1.0/sbtix-0.2-SNAPSHOT.jar`
<lexwhatever> nix-env -q --installed says, nix-index is not installed, I beleive it's true. Ok, how I can check that 1) prebuilt binaries are available for specific package, in our case nix-index? 2) how to install them?
<teozkr> chaker: sbtix is a SBT plugin, not a standalone program, so you can't just run the sbtix.jar
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<chaker> Aa, okay! but how to generate the deps for the new compiled plugin?
<ij> So gad damn many things in my ruby closure reference the gcc store id. :/
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<teozkr> chaker: instead, `publishLocal` it and add it to `project/plugins.sbt`, then run `sbt genNix "reload plugins" genNix`
<chaker> Thanks teozkr, I will try that
<teozkr> chaker: then you should be able to remove the plugin from plugins.sbt and reinstall it as usual
<teozkr> no problem, good luck!
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<lexwhatever> sphalerite infinisil, lads
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<sphalerite> I'm not sure
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] SFrijters opened pull request #34379: pyprof2calltree: init at 1.4.3 (master...pyprof2calltree) https://git.io/vNyiP
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<sphalerite> I mean, to install it regardless just remove the -b
<sphalerite> but I don't know how to check if it's available
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<lexwhatever> without '-b' it tries compilation, and compilation really suck in my particular current case with this package because 1) it takes really long, more than 40 minutes 2) it fails, but thats another issue. so I beleive have to get prebuilt binaries
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<infinisil> lexwhatever: what's your channel?
<chisui> are there any editor plugins that provide autocompletion for nix expressions or even displaying option descriptions?
<infinisil> chisui: there are some for emacs, but it's not very good, totally not semantic iirc
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #34380: exfat: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.7 (master...exfat) https://git.io/vNyPu
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<lexwhatever> infinisil , https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-17.09
<infinisil> lexwhatever: what does nix-info say? (you can paste it here)
<lexwhatever> system: "x86_64-linux", multi-user?: yes, version: nix-env (Nix) 1.11.16, channels(root): "nixos-17.09.2826.5141f28405e", nixpkgs: /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs
<infinisil> ohh, it's the rustc thing
<lexwhatever> chisui, i suggest nix-mode emacs, and nix-repl (tab-tab autocompleteion, and help)
<chisui> lexwhatever: nothing for vim? :D
<infinisil> lexwhatever: update your channel with nix-channel --update, a fix should have been pushed
<ixxie> chisui: you can always go evil mode ;)
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<lexwhatever> YES! OMG! It's probably solved my issue! Thank you!~
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<chisui> followup question is there something like an online searchengine for nix packages like any other package manager has?
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<ixxie> but note it will not list unfree packages
<the-kenny> LnL: I just want to know if the new emacs site-lisp stuff works fine on Darwin (it should, but I can't test it)
<lexwhatever> "nix-env -iAb nixos.nix-index" did worked well and installed a binary, after channel update, success!
<infinisil> lexwhatever: :)
<infinisil> lexwhatever: the reason was this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/34189
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<lexwhatever> true, i had saw similiar out-of-stack error during sourcecode compilation. fortunately i'm not alone.
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* lexwhatever so happy so he hails to all mighty knights of sacred nix knowledge, finnaly able to continue his work, again
<LnL> the-kenny: no idea, but I don’t really see why it wouldn’t
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<tilpner> Apparently NixOS containers will only receive configuration updates without reload when autoStart = true;. Is this intended (then it should be added to the manual), or is this a bug?
<lexwhatever> that feeling, when you are going to kitchen, see pineapple, and it reminds you of copumpkin.
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<LnL> heh
<LnL> tilpner: I think you always need to restart the container to apply changes
<tilpner> LnL - "If you run nixos-rebuild switch, the container will be built. If the container was already running, it will be updated in place, without rebooting"
<tilpner> LnL - And that holds true with autoStart = true;. It's just slightly frustrating that this isn't documented there
<LnL> hmm, did that change recently?
<tilpner> I don't know, this is my first time using nixos containers
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 72141a6 Peter Simons: ghc-8.4.1: un-revert "update to 8.4.1-alpha2"...
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b7aa3333032 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] JohnAZoidberg opened pull request #34381: nixos/less configure less with module (master...less) https://git.io/vNyyp
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<freeman42x> what would be the proper way to fix https://github.com/razvan-panda/nodejs-exec to stack install it on nix? it has hardcoded bin/node path and that does not work on NixOS since it does not exist
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<Eisfreak7> Does anyone have knowledge about sandbox building that could explain why sage builds sandboxed ony my and 7c6f434c's machines, but not on hydra?
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<TimePath> freeman42x: scan PATH
<Eisfreak7> Can I use nix-shell with a sandbox? Or do you mean insert "echo $PATH" somewhere in the build script?
<freeman42x> I created a ticket for it: https://github.com/lamdu/nodejs-exec/issues/1
<Eisfreak7> Oh sorry I thought you answered me
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<freeman42x> TimePath: https://paste2.org/zJjAbxO1
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<TimePath> freeman42x: good news is bash scans PATH to find executables
<TimePath> freeman42x: not the scan command :P I though you said /bin/node was hardcoded
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<freeman42x> TimePath: yes, /bin/node is hardcoded and I am not sure what is the proper fix
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<TimePath> freeman42x: It's not hardcoded in the falling bash script
<TimePath> Oh, further down something is
<TimePath> That's relative anyway, it should work
<TimePath> It's also not taking that branch
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<TimePath> Could it be that stack build --nix ignores system packages?
<TimePath> stack install rather
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<TimePath> I'm not familiar with the Haskell tooling, only the node tooling
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<chisui> So I'm currently setting up my desktop PC with NixOS for the first time and I would like to go the "Nix way" wherever possible. So how do I manage my config files for various programs in the "Nix way". I have seen many configuration.nix files on Github but these seem pretty daunting to me. Are there any good resources on the topic? The manual doesn't go into details here
<tilpner> There's no official way to do that. Solutions include setting the users home to /etc/user/something, using home-manager to generate config files from Nix, and using activation scripts to link config files into the right places
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<chisui> tilpner: thanks, I will take a look at these
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<tilpner> I can help you with "using activation scripts to link config files into the right places", if that's what you end up doing
<chisui> I think I will take a look at all the options before deciding. Why did you go that route?
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<tilpner> None of the other options were ready (home-manager wasn't usable via NixOS modules), and /etc/user/something is an even weirder hack
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] clefru opened pull request #34385: Upgrade kernel compiler to GCC 7. (master...gcc7-kernel) https://git.io/vNyNr
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<lexwhatever> chisui , thats depend on what you mean by sayn 'configuration files'. if you mean /etc/nixos/configuration.nix & ~/.config/nixpkgs/{config.nix, overlays} they are documented, let me know if you want me to give you a links
<chisui> lexwhatever: I meant stuff like my .bashrc, Xresouces etc.
<lexwhatever> if you mean your regular ~/{.config, .otherdotfiles} - i beleive you could mage it like you did in any other distro before a) no managing at all b) have version control in .git with optional symlinks c) have zfs snapshots ... and so on
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<lexwhatever> ofc theoretically there could be also a hard way (IMHO) : writing .nix extension for packages to BUILD your config files with specific parameters. sounds cool, but hard for me.
<viric> I see brotli in nix master? oh. I like zstd so much over brotli...
<chisui> lexwhatever: that was basically what I was looking for.
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<tilpner> lexwhatever - How do zfs snapshots help you manage dotfiles? That sounds like a backup mechanism
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<lexwhatever> chisui i mentioned multiple options, so not sure where you end up, but I must warn you : Keep it simple, don't over engineer it and fight complexity without mercy
<lexwhatever> you right tilpner thats only a backup mechanism, and versioning. nothing more. do you use any automatic solution, that gerenates your .configs from templates? or manages them any other complex way?
<chisui> lexwhatever: I just thought that NixOS would provide facilities to manage stuff like this in a functional way. tilpner also mentioned stuff like home-manager and nixup that seem to help manage dotfiles.
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<tilpner> lexwhatever - I have forked the environment.etc module to manage my entire filesystem (not just /etc), so that's what I use for dotfiles too
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0a70f37 Michael Raskin: lispPackages.clwrapper: build helper; saving dynamic library search path from NIX_LISP_
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #34352: python3Packages.multidict: 4.0.0 -> 4.1.0 (master...multidict) https://git.io/vNDao
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #34359: pythonPackages.supervise_api: 0.2.0 -> 0.3.0 (master...upsup) https://git.io/vNDy4
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<hyper_ch> infinisil: ping
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #33315: nixos/borgbackup: add test (master...borgbackup) https://git.io/vbplm
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<winem_> what is the best way to have your own nix repository which can be used by remote servers? we started to use nix-serve but there seems to be no active community around it and the documentation is a bit poor so that I have some doubts that it's the best and recommended way to do it.
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<ixxie> winem_: I think the normal approach is setting up your own nix channel, and there is an explanation on that thread of this as well
<winem_> ixxie: read some links and just finished the 19 pills of nix :) let me check your link
<winem_> ah yeah, found that and got stuck at some point. but now I take it as the right way and will come back if I have more specific querstions. thanks
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<ixxie> winem_: don't take my word for it, I never tried this sort of thing
<winem_> ah, now I know where I got stuck. I missed the point where you refer to the remote host. will try that now
<i-am-the-slime> How do I make it so I can get linuxPackages_4_14?
<i-am-the-slime> Do I have to somehow switch to nixpkgs-unstable?
<i-am-the-slime> error: attribute ‘linuxPackages_4_14’ missing, at /etc/nixos/configuration.nix:97:25 <- is what I get right now
<winem_> ixxie: no problem, thanks anyway. I'll just blame the random guy in the nixos irc channel, if shit hits the fan ;)
<shlevy> garbas: Can pypi2nix parse out deps from install_requires in setup.py?
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<ixxie> winem_: sounds good ;)
<jluttine> how do i define overlays in configuration.nix? couldn't find any instructions for that..
<jluttine> i just want to use a different version for one package than what is defined in nixpkgs
<LnL> shlevy: you have to run that to figure out the dependencies
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<shlevy> LnL: Run what?
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<LnL> the setup.py file, the way python dependencies are resolved is dynamic
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<shlevy> Sure. Does pypi2nix do that?
<shlevy> It seems like no from testing
<LnL> shlevy: python ./setup.py egg_info && cat *.egg-info/requires.txt
<LnL> and hope the setup.py doesn't have dependencies...
<shlevy> OK
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<shlevy> requirements.txt it is
<shlevy> Bleh pypi2nix does networking
<LnL> the python packaging stuff is terrible
<shlevy> I just want callCabal2nix for python :')
<shlevy> :'(
<LnL> there's basically no reliable way to resolve dependencies without executing some arbitrary python code first
<shlevy> cabal2nix doesn't resolve dependencies
<shlevy> There should be a flag to do that for all *2nix
<shlevy> Let me recurse if I need to, or pull from nixpkgs or some overrided python package set
<LnL> versions, but it does resolve dependencies no?
<shlevy> cabal2nix ./. in a haskell project
<shlevy> Does no network resolution, does not check your hackage snapshot, nothing
<shlevy> Just parses the cabal file and spits out an expression that you can then compose witha broader package set
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<shlevy> So in this case you hopefully don't need arbitrary python execution
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<LnL> yeah, but a lot of packages don't have that
<shlevy> Sure, but I can tell my devs they need it if they want autonixification :)
<gchristensen> your devs, and all the deps your devs depend upon
<LnL> reasonable
<shlevy> Nah, the deps they pull from pythonPackages
<gchristensen> oh
<gchristensen> :shipit:
<shlevy> So basically I just need ini2json
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<shlevy> Ah setuptools has read_configuration
<shlevy> I'll parse that
<LnL> what I use for stuff at work is just ignore the dependencies, similar to how --no-deps works
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<shlevy> Right but you have to manually twiddle with your nix expressions right?
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<LnL> only for things with native deps
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<shlevy> So you don't use nix to resolve your python deps?
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<LnL> yeah, it's up to the project to declare the full list
<shlevy> In nix
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<LnL> yeah, everything gets thrown together in a buildEnv similar to ghcWithPackages
<shlevy> Right
<shlevy> I want to encourage declarative data manipulations for users
<shlevy> Ideally in a form that is consumable without nix
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<shlevy> Augh is there documentation for the setup function itself anywhere?
<infinisil> nixpkgs finally usable: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/34299
<LnL> that's distutils I think
<shlevy> LnL: Yeah but the distutils docs don't actually document all the flags to setup anywhere I can see
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<shlevy> Oh I was looking at setuptools docs
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<gchristensen> python packaging is always an exciting rabbit hole of history :/
<shlevy> OK looks like an empty setup() should be enough
<shlevy> Time to write some python...
<LnL> ^
<ixxie> speaking of annoyances of python packaging, does anybody know how to reliably figure out whether python is running tests?
<shlevy> ixxie: In what context?
<shlevy> You can check if doCheck is true
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<LnL> there’s a reason why there are like 5 python2nix generators and none of them are grwat
<LnL> great*
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<ixxie> I have had a case where test-requirements.txt are specified, and doCheck is true, and if I specify the checkInputs, the build process says '0 tests run' but if I then remove the checkInputs I get an error that a test failed to run
<ixxie> actually several such cases
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<LnL> you could add preCheck = “set -x”;
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<LnL> the project might be using a different testrunner
<ixxie> shlevy: context is here https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/34079
<ixxie> LnL: what does that do?
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<LnL> it will print every command that gets executed in the checkPhase
<ixxie> thanks LnL, I will try that
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<rui> When I nixos-rebuild with not-so-old nixokgs repos, it screws most programs. I get errors of libGL.so. libc.so and stuff
<rui> Any ideas on the possible causes?
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<KarelWDingeldey[> Hi, does anyone use sshguard on nixos?
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<KarelWDingeldey[> I enabled it in the configuration, but it gives strange error messages about NAMESPACES. Result is that it doesn't start. It appears that systemd can't find the executables.
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<timlyo> I'm trying to use i3blocks, but upon running it only shows the time on the bar and "Bad exit code 127" for most of the blocks when run from the commandline. I can run each script individually by going to it in /nix/store. Here's my configuration.nix, do I have to do anything extra to enable the scripts?
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<KingOfThePirates> hello - I'd like some help installing nixos via nix (using a shell from ubuntu on my system). I'm not understanding which directory the shell needs to be to ensure i'm putting nixos on the target partition (disk 0 partition 9), and of course not a partition with an existing os. i'm on the config step in the normal install instructions https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-installation http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/n2KwrD_A
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<KingOfThePirates> by any chance is it possible to get assistance at this time of day?
<catern> KingOfThePirates: which step is the config step?
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<catern> how does the Nix Python "setup.py develop" support work with setuptools entry_points? does it work at all?
<KingOfThePirates> i just finished 9. i think i should be on 11
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<catern> answer: the Nix Python "setup.py develop" stuff *does* work with setuptools entry_points. it just puts them on the path. awesome!
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<tilpner> KingOfThePirates - Hi! :)
<tilpner> gchristensen - Do you have your Hetzner Cloud config online already?
<KingOfThePirates> i know not what this may be
<KingOfThePirates> this is all local on the same machine
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<sphalerite> KingOfThePirates: any time is a good time! :p if you stick around you might find your question gets answered 12h later
<catern> KingOfThePirates: just to understand, you basically want to install NixOS in a chroot or in a partition from your already-booted Ubuntu system, not from the live CD?
<catern> KingOfThePirates: if so, have you gotten nixos-install and nixos-generate-config installed (with Nix) on your Ubuntu machine yet?
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<KingOfThePirates> i know not a chroot either, but the rest is familiar with me and correct
<KingOfThePirates> yes
<KingOfThePirates> at the top of my nixpaste you can see
<catern> ah, sorry, yes I see
<catern> I think nixos-install just works on the current working directory, but you might check if it has any --help?
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<srhb> nixos-install installs to /mnt by default but does take a --rool argument that overrides it.
<srhb> Er, --root
<catern> "nixos-generate-config --root /mnt" should ignore cwd and work on /mnt, though, so it should be fine wherever you are
<catern> ah, what srhb says then :)
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<KingOfThePirates> srhb: was --rool a typo? just want to be on the same page
<srhb> KingOfThePirates: Yes, --root is what I meant to write.
<catern> KingOfThePirates: yes, he meant --root
<KingOfThePirates> kk
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<KingOfThePirates> it's saying nixos-generate-config: command not found http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/XwR2c4ZU?sh
<gchristensen> tilpner: I deleted the server, but I could post you what I had
<gchristensen> tilpner: but it wasn't anything special, just the output of nixos-generate-config and boot.loader.grub.device = "/dev/sda";
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<tilpner> gchristensen - Oh. I was wondering if you did any ipv6-specific changes
<srhb> KingOfThePirates: Your root user does not appear to have a nix profile with it in its PATH.
<gchristensen> oh I didn't do anything w.r.t. ipv6
<srhb> KingOfThePirates: You've installed it as your regular user only.
<KingOfThePirates> oops
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<tilpner> gchristensen - Thanks! :)
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<srhb> KingOfThePirates: Mind, I'm a little worried with all the command failures you're seeing. Are you sure you have the intended partition mounted on /mnt?
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<srhb> KingOfThePirates: Oh, the # bits are your root shell. Okay. Looks good.
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<magnetophon> I just did an upgrade to the latest unstable, and now I can't login anymore. Any ideas?
<ajgrf> I'm running nix on a Debian installation, and everything seems to work except GUI applications. They don't create a window anywhere, nor do they crash. Does anyone know how I can fix or troubleshoot this?
<srhb> ajgrf: That sounds weird. Can you launch gui applications from the debian package system from the same terminal?
<symphorien> magnetophon: is your password refused or do you login and there are logged out immediately ?
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<magnetophon> symphorien: no errors about the password. not sure if I'm loged in temporarily or not
<magnetophon> symphorien:
<magnetophon> oops
<magnetophon> symphorien: I also tried on tty1: I get a blank screen for a bit, then back to the login screen
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<symphorien> ok
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 04b4582 Matthieu Coudron: pulp: init at 1.6.0...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1716bf7 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #34382 from teto/pulp...
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<symphorien> either your shell is invalid
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<symphorien> or one of the startup files of your shell contains "exit 1" or something like that
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<ajgrf> srhb: yes, debian applications launch fine. the same applications from nixpkgs will fail to draw a window
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 61043ad Tim Steinbach: linux: Add 4.15
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master da26e92 Tim Steinbach: linux-copperhead: 4.14.15.a -> 4.15.a
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<magnetophon> symphorien: hmmm, I *did* remove some shell stuff in my config. that's probably it. thanks! I'll try that.
<symphorien> (what happened to me once on another distro was that zsh migrated from /usr/bin to /bin during an update and thus my shell as declared in /etc/password became invalid)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 6959269 Tim Steinbach: linux-copperhead: 4.14.15.a -> 4.15.a...
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<srhb> ajgrf: The puzzling bit is the lack of errors. I can't think of any good way of debugging short of strace'ing a simple gui application.
<srhb> Though honestly without a crash something more subtle is probably going on.
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<symphorien> magnetophon: worst case, reboot and select the previous config in grub
<KingOfThePirates> alright i'll try to redo my nix
<magnetophon> symphorien: that's where I am now
* magnetophon <3 NixOS
<srhb> KingOfThePirates: I think you've done nothing wrong. You just need to install the tools for root as well, or refer to their full path directly
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<ajgrf> srhb: hmm, seems it's more of a performance issue. Anki just opened a window successfully, after typing it into a terminal like 5 minutes ago
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<magnetophon> symphorien: yup, that was it. thank you very much!
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<srhb> ajgrf: ... fishy.
<symphorien> :)
<KingOfThePirates> i need to get some graham crakers and vanilla frosting before moving forward with this nix on root profile setup
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<srhb> KingOfThePirates: Again, you don't strictly need it.
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<sphalerite> ajgrf: might be opengl issues, that's probably the biggest outstanding issue with running nixpkgs stuff on non-nixos distros
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<ajgrf> sphalerite: is there a fix or workaround?
<ajgrf> sphalerite: i'm not sure if anki uses opengl, but i think i ran into that trying to get alacritty to run
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<__Sander__> meh
<__Sander__> does the imagemagick maintainer publish silent updates or something?
<__Sander__> it seems that the hash code of the download no longer matches
<__Sander__> at least
<__Sander__> it does not work if I deploy from the nixpkgs 17.09 package set
<sphalerite> __Sander__: I do know that they delete a release from the main download page as soon as a new one's out
<srhb> __Sander__: I can't reproduce that.
<srhb> Though I suppose I'm hitting the cache.
* srhb pokes the hash
<srhb> 404 indeed. Fun.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4b0000a Pierre-Etienne Meunier: Pyrseas: init at 0.8.0 (#34225)...
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<__Sander__> srhb: if I change the output hash to 0b11pxaiq0bvr3f3fj791jnfmwn61i3ini78cwi0szrn3akqwzdk it works for me
<__Sander__> at least
<__Sander__> it seems to be building
<srhb> __Sander__: As far as I can see it'll only work for the cached version, no mirrors produce the 6.9.9-33 tarball
<__Sander__> srhb: how shall we proceed? update imagemagick or just simply change the hash :)
<srhb> __Sander__: Update imagemagick.
<srhb> __Sander__: 6.9.9-34 :)
<coconnor> ajgrf: as I understand the move to using glvnd library will assist. Not a quick work around tho haha
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<__Sander__> srhb: that's what the imagemagick expression uses in 17.09
<__Sander__> yet the output hash seems to be wrong
<srhb> __Sander__: Uh, I thought I just updated and I see 6.9.9-33
<KingOfThePirates> turn it off and turn it on
<srhb> __Sander__: Oh, are you looking at release-17.09?
<srhb> __Sander__: I see, patched yesterday. Yes, it does look like something changed upstream then. :/
<srhb> __Sander__: I get 0b11pxaiq0bvr3f3fj791jnfmwn61i3ini78cwi0szrn3akqwzdk
<__Sander__> ok, then I'll just change the hash
<__Sander__> I need to get this fixed asap
<__Sander__> builds are breaking here :)
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<KingOfThePirates> how do you install the tools for root?
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<ajgrf> srhb, sphalerite, coconnor: thanks for your help! I found some issues on the nixpkgs bug tracker now that might answer my other questions
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<throwboy> I recently installed NixOS for the first time and the login Terminal seems to be broken for me. I can neither use the arrow keys nor the backspace key, "clear" does not work and vim complains about unknown terminals. Is anyone else experiencing this issue and knows how to fix it?
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<throwboy> I've found this https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/7t6yfd/terminfo_broken_in_fresh_1709_install/ link and think it most likely is the same problem.
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<sphalerite> weird, haven't seen that before
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<sphalerite> KingOfThePirates: install what tools for root?
<srhb> throwboy: This looks relevant: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/34364
<throwboy> @sphalerite I have also only seen it reported in that reddit post
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<KingOfThePirates> nixos-install and nixos-generate-config
<srhb> I don't see any obvious changes that would affect that though...
<tilpner> throwboy - That issue has been fixed recently
<tilpner> throwboy - You should try updating your channel and rebuilding
<lejonet> srhb: The only thing I've got left to fix before I'd deem my ceph stuff ready for PR is the whole link instanced service to template, and I can't find anything that will work for that, got any ideas?
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<srhb> lejonet: Not immediately, but I can have a look tomorrow or the day after. :)
<lejonet> srhb: sounds good
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<sphalerite> srhb: maybe dtz 's ncurses commits
<throwboy> @tilpner ok, thanks. I thought the installer would automatically fetch the latest version so I did not upgrade
<srhb> sphalerite: Ah, yes.
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<sphalerite> I don't understand them though
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<srhb> lejonet: I don't think the lack of linking is particularly dealbreaking though (since we have better mechanisms for this anyway) :)
<srhb> Unless ceph barfs on it.
<srhb> (I don't think it cares)
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<lejonet> srhb: it honestly doesn't care, and atm I'm thinking about just creating a new full service for each instead of trying to symlink to the template
<srhb> lejonet: Indeed, that would be fine. If not, you might want to look at the serial-getty services
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<lejonet> Its mainly just a way for having the same service, instanced to many, so that if you change it, all get the change, but that isn't a problem with nix/nixos
<srhb> Yeah, exactly.
<lejonet> srhb: I've tried finding where the instanced parts get assigned, but haven't been able to find that for serial-getty
<lejonet> Because ofc the cleanest way to solve it would be by doing it the way its intended, but I don't really see a problem with just creating one full service for each instance instead
<srhb> Nor do I
<srhb> It's somewhat more idiomatic for in NixOS even.
<lejonet> Could even keep the whole instanced template and name em "ceph-<daemon>@<id>" to be able to keep the services "untouched" as much as possible
<srhb> (cf. network-addresses-interfacename.service and company)
<srhb> I don't think that's a good idea
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<srhb> Either we use @ with templates or not at all
<lejonet> Me neither, just saying its a possibility :P
<lejonet> (aka the lazy route :P )
<srhb> :P
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<lejonet> Just added a (cfg.<daemon>.enable -> cfg.<daemon>.extraConfig != {}) to the optionalAttrs merging, but it would seem like I actually want && there (What I want the optionalAttrs to do is that if the daemon is enabled AND there is something in the extraConfig set, to create that section in the config)
<lejonet> Because the false -> true = true just bit me :P
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<srhb> Why do you care about extraConfig if !enable ?
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<lejonet> I'm optionally merging attrsets, and just merging basing it on if enable or not creates empty sections
<srhb> You seem to be saying you want exactly enable -> extraConfig != {} (or null or whatever)
<srhb> Such that if it's enabled, it's an error if extraConfig is empty
<srhb> iff enabled, rather.
<lejonet> No, extraConfig is optional
<srhb> Oh
<lejonet> (hence the extra in the name :P )
<srhb> Then I don't understand what that assertion(?) is good for at all. :-P
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<lejonet> No assertion, just an optionalAttrs merging
<srhb> So optionalAttrs enable cfg.extraConfig?
<srhb> Sorry if I'm being dense, not sure exactly what the issue is.
<lejonet> optionalAttrs cfg.<daemon>.enable { "<daemon>" = cfg.<daemon>.extraConfig; } is what I had before, and that created empty sections
<lejonet> so I tried (kindof knowing it probably would do undesired behaviour but fun to learn) (cfg.<daemon>.enable -> cfg.<daemon>.extraConfig != {}) to see what it would do and lo and behold, as I thought, it created empty sections for daemons NOT enabled :P
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<lejonet> and && instead of -> did exactly what I thought too, and gives me the desired behaviour :D
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<throwboy> sorry for bothering you people again, but I am now on NixOS 17.09.2875.c2b668ee726 (same as https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/34364) and still experiencing the problem
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<tilpner> throwboy - How did you get to c2b668ee726?
<tilpner> (nixos-rebuild switch and then rebooted?)
<therp> let a = 5; foo = { a = 4 }; in (with foo; is-there-any-way-to-access-the-original-a-here?)
<throwboy> "nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade" and subsequent reboot
<tilpner> throwboy - foo.a
<infinisil> therp: nope
<throwboy> ?
<tilpner> Oh
<therp> infinisil: thanks. I considered super.
<tilpner> therp - That should have worked :/
<tilpner> Sorry, weechat tab-completed the wrong person... twice
<therp> no worries :) got it
<infinisil> lejonet: You should probably factor out those service definitions
<tilpner> throwboy - That should have worked. If you haven't invested much time into that installation, consider just reinstalling from the newer ISO
<therp> the context of my question is that I try to elimate "let stdenvKernelCc" from https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/34385/commits/5c06b84831f57dd3c39044dab1a920a9ce845d18 but I can't write "stdenv = overrideCC stdenv kernel.buildCc" because of the "with self;" here
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<sphalerite> reinstall fixing a nixos problem? I doubt it somewhat…
<tilpner> throwboy - I'm sure it's possible to fix this on your installed system, but the newer ISO doesn't have this problem anymore, and that might be a lot less frustrating
<throwboy> tilpner: would trying out the unstable branch be a good idea?
<lejonet> infinisil: yeah, I was thinking of putting them in a var or so, and then just do some type of variable interpolation into them to get the right ID at the right places
<lejonet> infinisil: or is there a niftier way of DRYing em? :)
<therp> (that leads to an infinite recursion)
<tilpner> throwboy - You can try, sure. But I don't expect it to help, if upgrading didn't help before
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<KingOfThePirates> i'm thinking of wiping ubuntu and just starting over. but you mentioned even going on root isn't necessarily needed. is there a simple way to set up the config file and install nixos on another partition?
<tilpner> KingOfThePirates - Check your PMs :)
<KingOfThePirates> are all of those messages for me specifically?
<infinisil> lejonet: a function would work well: `let mkSevice = name: attrs: mkIf cfg.${name}.enable (recursiveUpdate { description = "Ceph ${name} daemon"; ... } attrs) in ...`
<KingOfThePirates> i noticed it was talking about configs but i wasn't sure if it was my issue
<tilpner> KingOfThePirates - I only sent you one, two hours ago
<throwboy> tilpner: ok, but I do have one (possibly stupid) question: isn't the whole idea of NixOS that "switching" essentially reinstalls the whole system? Or did I misunderstand something?
<KingOfThePirates> oh wow there's pm's in this app
<infinisil> lejonet: then you can use `"ceph-mon@" = mkService "mon" { <service stuff specific to mon> }`
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<KingOfThePirates> i'm wanting another os to boot from, and i want nixs
<KingOfThePirates> nixos
<KingOfThePirates> boot to* specifically
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<tilpner> throwboy - Yes, you're completely right. Reinstalling should never be needed, and it isn't here either
<throwboy> tilpner: but?
<infinisil> KingOfThePirates: do you have a question?
<coconnor> throwboy: excluding any bugs in the activation scripts, yes it's equivalent
<tilpner> throwboy - But reinstalling from a newer ISO might be quicker in fixing your issue than us finding the mistake you probably made
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<throwboy> tilpner: ok, so Im going to first try out unstable and if that doesn't help I'll reinstall
<throwboy> tilpner: thanks
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<lejonet> infinisil: that would most likely work awesomely, then I'll just need 2 functions (or just more arguments to the function) once and then I can create all the services I want easily :P
<infinisil> lejonet: yeah, let me know if you need help with that
<lejonet> infinisil: reason I need 2 functions is that one of the daemons template is slightly different than the others
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<lejonet> infinisil: will do, hopefully I've learned enough so far to be able to do it on my own :D
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<tilpner> sphalerite - A reinstall from a different ISO can help if the issue is outdated channels :)
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<infinisil> lejonet: i included the attrs argument so it should be possible to override service specific stuff, but of course you're free to use any number of functions :)
<sphalerite> tilpner: but they did nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade which updates the channels
<lejonet> infinisil: yeah, I'll most likely have atleast 3 arguments, to be able to use 1 function, daemon type, daemon id and an attrset that will be merged with serviceConfig attrset
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<infinisil> lejonet: if you're gonna open a PR to add the finished module to nixpkgs, I'd be happy to get pinged :)
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<lejonet> infinisil: Will add that to my TODO :) I'll certainly ping both you and srhb when I'm done finshing up and all
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<lejonet> This is going to be one hell of a rebase :P
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<infinisil> lejonet: you could just `git reset master && git commit`
<infinisil> i think
<lejonet> infinisil: worth a try
<lejonet> my git knowledge is so rusty its laughable :(
<tilpner> sphalerite - And I agree, that should have fixed it. I don't know why it didn't, but I'm confident a reinstall will fix it :/
<tilpner> sphalerite - Do you have an idea why it didn't help?
<infinisil> lejonet: with git reset master you're basically telling git to pretend you're on master now, without changing any files back, then you can add all your changes and commit new, essentially abandoning all those other commits, and committing all changes anew
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f833dd7 Franz Pletz: imagemagick: fetch sources from github...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f2dc478 Franz Pletz: upower: 0.99.4 -> 0.99.7
<hyper_ch> hmmm, my voip server is being attacked by Avast
<lejonet> infinisil: I'm guessing that can even be done within the branch, so I keep the branch name, which makes it a lot easier to create the PR
<infinisil> indeed, a branch is just a reference to a commit
<throwboy> tilpner: so I just switched to the unstable channel, upgraded and now it works
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 c45b399 Franz Pletz: imagemagick: fetch sources from github...
<tilpner> Good!
<dmj`> what derivation is dot under in nixpkgs
<dmj`> graphviz
<infinisil> Just created a simple printf equivalent in nix: `printf "Hi %s, your number is %d" "Paul" 10` -> "Hi Paul, your number is 10"
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<infinisil> Note that it takes as many arguments as the format string tells it to!
<hyper_ch> that sounds promising: https://www.linuxboot.org/
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<infinisil> currently it doesn't handle any advanced stuff, but it could definitely be done
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<throwboy> tilpner: do you have any idea why this would happen?
<tilpner> throwboy - The only valid explanation I have, is that the ISO is not built from nixos-17.09
<tilpner> (But I don't know if it's true)
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<throwboy> tilpner: but should that not have been already fixed by upgrading on the stable channel?
<tilpner> Only if the fix is already in that channel
<tilpner> Which I assumed
<tilpner> Many commits are not backported to older channels, so it's possible that this was fixed in nixos-unstable, but not in nixos-17.9
<tilpner> *09
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<throwboy> tilpner: but how did upgrading on the stable channel help this person (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/34364) then?
<tilpner> It didn't
<tilpner> We downloaded the most recent ISO together, and tested if we could reproduce the problem
<tilpner> We couldn't, and that's why the issue is closed
<tilpner> That is not the same as updating the stable channel, even though we both just assumed that
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<throwboy> tilpner: Oh, I think I get it now, assumed he also just upgraded with "nixos-rebuild", even though I don't get why the ISO would be different from the stable (with the same version number)
<freeman42x> hi, I got a question about OpenGL https://paste2.org/gy9sJYmJ
<freeman42x> I am trying to package Lamdu editor by creating default.nix for all its subdependencies
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<srhb> freeman42x: The error is about the haskell package OpenGL which doesn't exist in that version in nixpkgs at all.
<srhb> freeman42x: How'd you end up with a 2.9.x constraint?
<srhb> Ah, I see, that's what the drawingcombinators package requires.
<srhb> freeman42x: You'll have to either see if it survives a jailbreak of OpenGL or package OpenGL in a compatible version, essentially.
<freeman42x> srhb: doesn't this mean that graphics-drawingcombinators nix package is broken and should have OpenGL added as dependency to it?
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<srhb> freeman42x: It is broken *and* it already has OpenGL as a dependency. The problem is that OpenGL in the nix packageset is of the wrong version.
<winem_> what do you think if I tell you that I got a default.nix with more than 40k lines for a XML/RADIUS API? aren't that way too many depencies?
<winem_> 2500 packages... that are all nix packages, right?
<simpson> winem_: That's entire-wheel-of-cheese territory. I'm not even mad.
<winem_> yeah, exactly the stuff I want to fiddle around with at this time of the day..
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<simpson> But yeah, somebody put too many things into one module, I think.
<winem_> does this line in a shell.nix file tell nix that all available packages are a dependency? "with (import <nixpkgs> { system = builtins.currentSystem;});"
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<simpson> Something like that, probably.
<srhb> winem_: Not necessarily, it just opens the scope of nixpkgs.
<hask_bee_3> Does NixOS eliminate the need for Docker? Why would someone want to use Docker on NixOS? It seems me to me NixOS gives you all the benefits already.
<srhb> hask_bee_3: That's sort of a matter of taste. I much prefer NixOS modules to arbitrary docker containers in most cases.
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<simpson> hask_bee_3: "Docker" as in "Dockerfile-style containers", sure, Nix works well with that. But any of the other parts of Docker, no, it's never fun. Personally I've been doing k8s.
<winem_> srhb: let me share the whole nix file. https://www.apaste.info/nySc
<srhb> winem_: For instance, this expression will merely build the hello pacage: with (import <nixpkgs> {}); hello
<winem_> so, is it the let os = builtins.currentSystem; that loads all the deps?
<digitalmentat> I'm setting `-smp 2` for qemu options on some of my nixos tests, which is nice because it makes them *significantly* faster; but I'm noticing other tests are blocked during the Stage 1 boot
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<digitalmentat> I don't know much about QEMU but would anyone know why increasing smp from 1 to 2 would do that?
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<srhb> winem_: No, that's just a string, eg. x86_64-linux
<winem_> hmm... but why does stack think that all available packages are a dependency of that application? I'm confused
<freeman42x> srhb: I can't even find `graphics-drawingcombinators` in nixpkgs repository, how does that even work?
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<winem_> stack.yaml itself has packages: - '.' and extra-deps: [hxt-relaxng-9.1.5.5]
<srhb> freeman42x: The haskell package set is not by default searched if you're using nix-env -qaP. Try -A nixpkgs.haskellPackages
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<srhb> winem_: Sorry, I don't know how stack works. :/
<winem_> srhb: anything else you would check?
<srhb> winem_: Uh, cacert looks weird
<freeman42x> srhb: I searched in the repository not with the command, I just want to see how the nix expression looks
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<srhb> freeman42x: Ah. pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-packages.nix
<winem_> yep, stumbled about that, too. but I guess the dev just copy pasted the shell.nix file and removed the path
<srhb> winem_: But doesn't that just make / (everything) a buildInput?
<winem_> ah, you mean this could cause the "include everything"?
<winem_> but well, now, as you say it it makes sense
<freeman42x> srhb: cheers
<digitalmentat> domenkozar, would you know why setting `-smp 2` (i.e. greater than the default of 1) causees other nixos tests to block during Stage 1 boot?
<srhb> winem_: Honestly that doesn't make sense to me :-P
<hask_bee_3> srhb is a NixOS module sort of like a Docker container?
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<srhb> hask_bee_3: Not really. But it's a much nicer interface to designing an extensible OS, services and all.
<winem_> srhb: I don't know what to believe anymore. I really like the mindset behind nix / nixos and am so happy to use it ( from a devops perspective ) but it's pure madness if your team just starts using it and you don't really have a clue how to build the packages
<srhb> Feel free to add <opinionated></opinionated> around that :-P
<srhb> winem_: I believe that. I haven't experienced it though, this looks particularly confusing :P
<winem_> srhb: removed the cacert line but the result is the same
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<srhb> winem_: How are you building it?
<digitalmentat> hask_bee_3, a nixos module is more akin to a programming language source module
<winem_> oh, do you want to? I mean, feel free to visit me and figure the stuff out when I go to an arch enemy concert
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<winem_> until now we did it with stack but I try it with nix-build now
<digitalmentat> except nixos modules (I believe) form a monoid
<freeman42x> `jailbreak of OpenGL or package OpenGL in a compatible version, essentially` where could I find how to achieve that? :) nix noob here
<srhb> winem_: Not really, and I'd prefer the Arch Enemy concert anyway ;-)
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<srhb> freeman42x: You can try to use cabal2nix cabal://OpenGL-2.9.x where x is whatever 2.9-version you want to grab. That will give you an expression for OpenGL that you can try to use with drawingcombinators. Note that this is a bit of a rabbit hole. You'd afterwards need to create an expression for drawingcombinators that uses that OpenGL (and I'm afraid I don't have time to guide you right now. :/)
<sphalerite> winem_: I'll visit and figure it all out if you pay me enough ;)
<winem_> sphalerite: ah, no no, it's fine. I'll do it by myself, thanks so much ;)
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<hask_bee_3> simpson i thought k8s (kubernetes) requires containers, such as docker
<hask_bee_3> so it can deploy the container to the various machines
<simpson> hask_bee_3: nixpkgs has dockerTools, which can build those containers using Nix expressions.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] griff opened pull request #34397: awstats: add tools directory (master...fix/awstats-tools) https://git.io/vNSME
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<tilpner> Does anyone have a battle-tested sshfs setup that handles reconnection well?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] qknight reopened pull request #34388: security.acme: added reload and restart lists for sytemd targets (master...acme_systemd_extension) https://git.io/vNSvB
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joncojonathan closed pull request #34358: keepass: Change from mono40 to mono50 (master...keepass-mono50) https://git.io/vNDD2
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<freeman42x> I have this in config.nix `OpenGL-2_9_2_0 = doJailbreak (self.callPackage /home/neo/Forks/OpenGL {});` when I build it it can't finx doJailbreak. I can't find any information/example on this
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<clever> freeman42x: haskell.lib.doJailbreak
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<freeman42x> clever: gives error: undefined variable ‘haskell’ at /home/neo/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix:11:26
<clever> freeman42x: thats inside pkgs
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 08bb48e Shea Levy: Add grpc....
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<dhess> clever: got any hints for how to debug an "empty job" issue on a Hydra? I've resolved my particular issue this time, but just for future reference.
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<clever> dhess: load the release.nix in nix-repl and see what it returns
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<dhess> clever: ok, that is ultimately what I did
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] giorgiga opened pull request #1825: Fix macOS installation when umask disallow public read (solves #1582) (master...master) https://git.io/vNSQ6
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<dhess> clever: it sucks that Hydra doesn't tell you *which* job is empty, though :(
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<freeman42x> what do I need to study to figure out how to fix these errors? https://paste2.org/JaNV5cpK
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<GiGa|Laptop> In un-NixOS related news, I just had to fix a typewriter. I've not had to do that in years.
<hodapp> an all-mechanical one?
<GiGa|Laptop> yep
<lejonet> Cool
<GiGa|Laptop> My 6 year old daughter saw one at a stately home over the weekend and liked typing on one. We've borrowed one from my wife's friend but the ribbon was misfed.
<GiGa|Laptop> That and the typewriter can take a 3 colour ribbon but only has black in it. The keys were missing as it wasn't set right. Nor was the paperstop.
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<viric> hello
<viric> Anyone using inadyn?
<viric> calling inadyn it tells me about no write access to (null
<viric> )
<viric> looks like not working at all
<GiGa|Laptop> Sorry viric, it's not somethig I use.
<viric> it doesn't even reach reading the config file (stracing it)
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<simpson> I have a package which wants to write to a curious location during build, and it's causing the build to fail: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/tmp/nix-build-typhon-vm.drv-0/typhon/rpython/rlib/rvmprof/src/shared/libbacktrace/config.h'
<simpson> I can see the code that's asking for this write, and I can hack around it, but is there a way to tell Nix that it's okay instead?
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<GiGa|Laptop> simpson: I'm no expert but would patching the code to use a writable path be the solution?
<simpson> GiGa|Laptop: No, the solution would involve altering the package to not have this desire.
<gchristensen> simpson: are you using a custom unpacker?
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<simpson> gchristensen: No, I'm using fetchzip. This is PyPy; PyPy 5.8 and newer try to write some build configuration headers if profiling is enabled.
<gchristensen> I'm not sure why it can't write there
<MichaelRaskin> Because it unpacks soiurce with permissions =r
<simpson> Hm. Maybe there's a bug elsewhere. I can't inspect the build tree because Nix reaps it.
<coconnor> aye
<MichaelRaskin> chmod u+w will help
<coconnor> or copying a directory retaining permissions
<MichaelRaskin> -K will tell Nix not to reap the source
<simpson> Ah, so should that be postUnpack?
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<MichaelRaskin> Also you could ls -la, chmod and ls -la the directory in question in postUnpack
<MichaelRaskin> Should help, and if it doesn't, the log will contain the output of ls
<simpson> In https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#ssec-unpack-phase is `dontMakeSourcesWritable` relevant? It says that it defaults to writable...
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<viric> Dezgeg: I changed my server from rpi2 to an Intel NUC
<coconnor> is libbacktrace a dependency of this package?
<simpson> Aha, found the issue. We have a custom thing done in the build phase that messes with the permissions of the source tree.
<viric> Dezgeg: too few MB/s.
<coconnor> I've seen builders that copy files from an input and keep the -w the input has from /nix/store
<garbas> shlevy: that is not possible in python. one day maybe (once setup.cfg) becomes a standard accross python community
<shlevy> garbas: :D I just wrote setupcfg2nix
<simpson> Yep, and now we are building again. Thanks for the help everybody.
<sphalerite> Oh hey shlevy, haven't seen you around before. I like your tweets though
<sphalerite> Around here, even
<garbas> shlevy: very few packages are using it. that is the downside, but +100
<shlevy> garbas: Yeah, currently my target audience is our own devs
<shlevy> So they can use it for their projects
<shlevy> sphalerite: o/
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<garbas> shlevy: i got best results with actuallly installing everything using pip inside and then inspect the dependencies
<gchristensen> it would be cool if nixos-generate-config could accept --additional-imports
<shlevy> sphalerite: I'm always here but pretty quiet on irc
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<garbas> shlevy: how will you handle a dependency which is not specified in setup.cfg? in some package which you depend on?
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<lejonet> Hmm, is the best way to convert all chars in a string from lowercase to uppercase to do replaceStrings lowerChars upperChars string?
<shlevy> garbas: Require users to explicitly add it to the python package overrides
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<shlevy> garbas: And encourage them to submit it upstream long-term
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<shlevy> (or, if not open source, add it to our internal nixpkgs overlay)
<garbas> shlevy: i envy you that you can set this requirement :)
<garbas> shlevy: what i get usually is half written requirements.txt :)
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<shlevy> :D
<shlevy> My job is to make it easy for devs to do dependency management
<shlevy> Not to do dependency management for them ;)
<GiGa|Laptop> Am I correct in thinking that if LibreOffice spell check isn't working, it's because I need to install hunspell?
<adelbertc> oh hello shlevy
<adelbertc> is there a way to tell nix daemons to reload the `/etc/nix/nix.conf` file?
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<LnL> I think that happens automatically
<adelbertc> what if im on darwin
<adelbertc> it seems to not.. but maybe something else is going on
<clever> manualy restart it with launchctl
<LnL> but pkill -HUP nix-daemon works
<adelbertc> LnL: that appears to have killed the nix daemons
<GiGa|Laptop> Hmm, I must have mistyped my root password on a fresh system. Normally I'd just go to /etc/shadow and remove the hash to get a blank password
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<adelbertc> oh maybe cuz my config file is borked
<adelbertc> thats why it wasnt reloading
<GiGa|Laptop> Apparently I can't do that on NixOS?
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<adelbertc> how does one bring back the nix daemons
<adelbertc> if theyre dead
<adelbertc> on darwin
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<pkill9> sacrifice a goat to them
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<hodapp> leave my goat alone plz
<Ralith> it is considered good form to get your own goat
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<adelbertc> launchctl nix-daemon doesn't seem to work
<clever> adelbertc: i think its launchctl start something.something.something
<adelbertc> Er yeah I did start nix-daemon
<Rusty1_> :q
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #34396: btrbk: install to bin (master...fix/btrbk) https://git.io/vNS6o
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<alexteves> adelbertc: try
<alexteves> sudo launchctl stop org.nixos.nix-daemon
<alexteves> sudo launchctl start org.nixos.nix-daemon
<adelbertc> alexteves: that seems t owork
<adelbertc> thank you!
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<lejonet> infinisil, srhb: Wrote a function to generate the service definitions instead, if you can/want to, please check my latest commit in the ceph branch and give comments :)
<hakujin> if I want to make a binary cache for macos packages do I need a hydra instance running on a mac?
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<adelbertc> hakujin: yep
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<johnw> hakujin: you can also just copy your own store's objects into the cache
<kakuzade> Hi. I have a trouble with my firefox-bin. There is no audio. A message of firefox tell me that I need to install pullseaudio... In addition, there is no sound applet in mi kde panel... How I can fix it?
<johnw> you don't need a hydra to populate it
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<alexteves> kakuzade: this worked for me back when installing nixos https://nixos.wiki/wiki/PulseAudio
<alexteves> I think I had to actually reboot though
<alexteves> might have had to do that ALSA step, not sure whether that fixed it or the reboot did
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<kakuzade> Thanks! I'll try.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bendlas pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN9TB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 499b3ed Herwig Hochleitner: criu: 2.12.1 -> 3.7...
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/aaa4cd02d96 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #34400: lib: Better use the module type system in platform parsing (master...meta-check) https://git.io/vN9Td
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<kakuzade> Pulseaudio is Working now. Thanks!
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<kakuzade> Did kde not show a progress bar (in the notifications area) when copying many large files? Is it disabled?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #34401: rtv: 1.19.0 -> 1.21.0 (master...rtv) https://git.io/vN9I5
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<KingOfThePirates> Anybody know how to get nix to work in nixos?
<tilpner> :o
<tilpner> I thought we killed your machine
<tilpner> (Did we?)
<KingOfThePirates> Pahahaha I have internet access but no browser. And nix-env won't give any output
<tilpner> Try "nix-shell -p firefox --run firefox"
<tilpner> Or put pkgs.firefox into your environment.systemPackages
<tilpner> Or even better, users.users.pirateguy.packages = with pkgs; [ firefox ];
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<KingOfThePirates> How do you pm someone?
<KingOfThePirates> Let's get in a pm
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<kakuzade> Is it possible to change the interface language to firefox-bin?
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<tilpner> kakuzade - I'm using firefox-beta-bin, and it seems possible here. Check Preferences > General > Language
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vdemeester opened pull request #34402: Add a containerd module (master...add-containerd-module) https://git.io/vN9qu
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