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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 08d3da7 Peter Hoeg: Merge pull request #33968 from peterhoeg/f/wp...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 35abe07 Peter Hoeg: wp-cli: use as much memory as possible...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNRq4
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/f4a9361efdb (from 13 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09)
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<gchristensen> woffs, hoverbear AWS took the edge location out of service which was giving y'all troubles.
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<plakband> Is nix pills outdated? I'm running into a number of things that don't work or seem to deviate from what I've seen in packages
<gchristensen> some of it, but it is being worked on
<gchristensen> they were on someone's blog for a long long time, only recently have we been able to update them
<plakband> I see
<plakband> Is there anything more modern you'd recommend?
<gchristensen> well, as I said we're trying to update them, so let's try that. what are you seeing?
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<plakband> a number of the commands in the first few don't work on my nixos installation, but I've been able to manage
<gchristensen> where are you reading the pills?
<plakband> and for example they seem to use derivation, whereas I see a lot of people using mkDerivation instead
<gchristensen> cool, that is the right place. the pills go through nix at a very low level, and derivation is as low as it gets. that is on purpose
<gchristensen> the goal is to have a very deep understanding of Nix at the end
<gchristensen> can you show me the commands which didn't work, and what happened instead?
<plakband> one sec
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis closed pull request #33986: Elixir: 1.6-rc -> 1.6 (master...update_elixir_1_6) https://git.io/vNB6b
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<plakband> False alarm, sorry! Turns out the issue was with my shell
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<plakband> but afaict, indent does not install pp-aterm
<plakband> from pill 6
<gchristensen> oh, ok! I'm glad the docs aren't _so_ wrong
<gchristensen> you're right, that is certainly an oversight
<gchristensen> pp-aterm is no longer available
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<plakband> I see
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<plakband> Thanks for your time
<gchristensen> thank you and good luck with the pills!
<dtz> pp-aterm: http://ix.io/EiW
<dtz> (from old mailing list)
<dtz> (fwiw)
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<copumpkin> you don't need pp-aterm anymore
<copumpkin> `nix show-derivation path-to-drv`
<gchristensen> ok mr unstable :)
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<Lisanna> err, I'm having trouble finding a function in nixpkgs lib or builtins which checks if a string is a substring of another
<Lisanna> closest I can find is lib.hasPrefix and lib.hasSuffix
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<tilpner> pie__ - No, I hit the same issue as rardiol1. As a workaround, it works quite okay in the proper FHS
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lopsided98 opened pull request #33992: buildbot: 0.9.11 -> 0.9.15.post1 (master...buildbot-update) https://git.io/vNRC5
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<dhess> Ayone have a clever way to run a git bisect on a Hydra?
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<fearlessKim[m]> is it me or nixops-dev started clearing the screen after some operations ? it's not cool to debug :'(
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<jaykru> what exactly is the pkgs set referred to in the systemPackages section of configuration.nix/how does it relate to nixpkgs and nixos "channels" (not sure if this is even the right term for these)?
<jaykru> how would I specify I want a package under nixpkgs instead of nixos (nixpkgs has the newer version I want) when managing packages declaratively in my configuration.nix?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] copumpkin opened pull request #1805: Rewrite builtin:fetchurl output paths (master...rewrite-fetchurl) https://git.io/vNR87
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<fresheyeball> hey folks
<fresheyeball> I am tryig to play with hydra
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<ngastyle> i'm seeing that nix-repl and nix-build use different derivations for binutils (as defined in nixpkgs) -- why should those be different?
<fresheyeball> I can't login as a hydra user!
<fresheyeball> It makes no sense given the manual
<adisbladis> ngastyle: Are you looking at the correct attributes?
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<ivanivan> I'd like to port a custom kernel module to nix. Is this possible?
<ivanivan> The module in question: https://github.com/nylen/i8042-debounce
<ivanivan> It applies some custom debounce logic to help with lousy Dell XPS keyboards
<adisbladis> ivanivan: Yes its possible :) We have a whole bunch of out of tree kernel modules in nixpkgs (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/os-specific/linux)
<adisbladis> ivanivan: One of the more minimal examples I can think of is https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/os-specific/linux/ixgbevf/default.nix
<ivanivan> adisbladis: Excellent, thanks so much! I'll take a look at those.
<MP2E> This looks like a good starting project to port a kernel module over. All you really need to do is make sure you set KDIR to the actual kernel directory, since it isn't at /lib/modules/* as expected
<MP2E> I suggest using makeFlags to do that, like in this project https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/os-specific/linux/mwprocapture/default.nix#L41
<MP2E> adisbladis posted a better nix file to base your module off of though
<MP2E> this one is a bit more complicated, only linking to demonstrate the makeFlags usage
<MP2E> if you'd like to then expose your module as something that can be enabled via /etc/nixos/configuration.nix, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/nixos/modules has some examples
<ngastyle> :adisbladis $ cat test.nix
<ivanivan> MP2E: Great, thanks for that as well!
<ngastyle> with (import <nixpkgs> {});
<ngastyle> binutils
<adisbladis> ngastyle: Please use a pastebin service
<ngastyle> ah will do
<fresheyeball> so... is it possible that hydra-create-user is not hitting the systemd version?
<fresheyeball> could it be trying to set things up for a user level hydra as a package? but not systemd?
<`_> go away fresheyeball
<fresheyeball> no
<`_> oh ok
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<adisbladis> `_: Hey. Thats not OK behaviour.
<fresheyeball> adisbladis: he is a friend of mine helping my IRL right now
<fresheyeball> just trying to be cheeky, I ok ;)
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<adisbladis> <ngastyle> http://lpaste.net/361749
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<adisbladis> ngastyle: You can see that one is the derivation path and one is the build output path.
<adisbladis> If you try `binutils.outPath` in the repl you'll see the same path
<fresheyeball> adisbladis: I still just need help with this http://lpaste.net/361748
<adisbladis> fresheyeball: Sorry I'm not experienced with setting up hydra.
<fresheyeball> trying to get a hydra hello world, and the docs do not have my back
<fresheyeball> adisbladis: all good, ok
<fresheyeball> clever: ?
<fresheyeball> I suspecy you know this
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<ngastyle> adisbladis: i see what you mean, thank you!
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<ngastyle> adisbladis: one more question here http://lpaste.net/361750 I'm trying to understand why, given the hello.nix and hello_builder.sh below, "binutils" is set as an environment variable in the builder but "binutils-unwrapped" is not.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mogorman opened pull request #33995: freetype: 2.7.1 -> 2.9 (master...freetype) https://git.io/vNR03
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<fresheyeball> shlevy: hi!
<fresheyeball> shlevy: such struggle at the moment!
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<fresheyeball> ryantrinkle: hi!
<ryantrinkle> fresheyeball: hey, how's it going? :)
<fresheyeball> ok
<fresheyeball> trying to learn hydra and running into a brick wall
<fresheyeball> ryantrinkle: have you ever tried to use a local hydra?
<fresheyeball> I can't create an account, when it's in systemd
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<fresheyeball> no login
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<ryantrinkle> fresheyeball: i've tried, and given up :P
<fresheyeball> ryantrinkle: really?
<`_> aww
<fresheyeball> how would you run it locally?
<fresheyeball> no systemd? manual bs?
<ryantrinkle> well, the last time i tried was a couple years ago, and the docs were a huge mess
<`_> I'm half tempted to just manually run queries
<fresheyeball> ryantrinkle: the docs are still a mess, in the sense that only one path has docs and it's not the blessed systemd path
<`_> And those docs _do_ work with some finagling, but the systemd route is like what
<fresheyeball> ryantrinkle: oh well, will try later
<fresheyeball> ryantrinkle: see you tomorrow
<ryantrinkle> fresheyeball: yeah :-/ see you tomorrow
<ryantrinkle> hopefully we can figure it out :)
<`_> I'm going to keep pressing the issue with the help of some vodka and determination
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/08d3da7ad02 (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<dhess> `_: are you just having trouble with the user creation part of the Hydra setup?
<`_> Not so much trouble with the user creation, but logging in
<`_> It simply says bad username/password
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<`_> oh forgot to tag you dhess
<dhess> I created a service to do that automatically (and securely, as in, it does not persist the password in the store)
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<`_> dhess: whoa sweet. So I'm relatively new here. How would I utilize that?
<dhess> do you have any overlays set up?
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<`_> Not that I'm aware of
<dhess> hmm. Are you running nixpkgs out of a checked-out git repo, or are you using channels?
<`_> Checked out repo
<`_> Which, now that I come to think of it, I haven't rebased in a while
<dhess> ok, then you could just stuff that hydra-manual-setup directory + its default.nix somewhere in the nixos/modules/services part of the repo, import it, and then enable the service with all of the options
<dhess> an overlay is easier and more "proper" but if you don't have that working yet then maybe you just want to do the quick-and-dirty way
<`_> I mean in the face of tedious-yet-proper and quick-and-dirty I usually prefer tedious-yet-proper, but if it's going to be too much I can honestly stick with quick-and-dirty
<dhess> overlays aren't tedious, they're just something new to learn
<dhess> actually they're pretty easy, check the Nix manual re: overlays
<`_> Sure
<`_> 'overlay' doesn't seem to appear in the manual
<dhess> Sorry, I meant nixpkgs. https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#chap-overlays
<`_> Thanks
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<MichaelRaskin> Maybe there should be a United Manual Of All Nix Related Stuff (just a concatention of Nix, Nixpkgs, NixOS, NixOps, Disnix, Hydra manuals as a single page, so that «searching in the manual» would work as desired)
<vegai> yeah, exactly :)
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<raynold> Ahh it's a wonderful day
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<hyper_ch> it's raining outside and cold
<vaibhavsagar> can I use libtool to turn a *.la file into a *.a file?
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<hyper_ch> for f in "/path/to/dir"*".la"; do base="${f%.*}"; mv "${f}" "${base}.a"; done
<hyper_ch> :)
<vaibhavsagar> nice
<hyper_ch> but that's just renaming
<hyper_ch> not sure what .la or .a files are
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 43909be Peter Hoeg: Merge pull request #33947 from S-NA/profile-cleaner...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e63e55c S. Nordin Abouzahra: profile-cleaner: add missing dependency...
<hyper_ch> vaibhavsagar: so what are .la and .a files?
<vaibhavsagar> *.a files are static libraries
<vaibhavsagar> *.la files are apparently input to libtool for achieving the same thing
<hyper_ch> no idea :)
<vaibhavsagar> so I'm trying to link against gmp6 which has libgmp.la but not libgmp.a
<adisbladis> vaibhavsagar: Nope. Not possible.
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<vaibhavsagar> okay, how is this meant to be done instead?
<vaibhavsagar> I read that it involves libtool somehow
<adisbladis> vaibhavsagar: You cant. There is no object data in the .la file.
<adisbladis> vaibhavsagar: But you should already have a .so so it should be fine?
<vaibhavsagar> I want an .a though :)
<vaibhavsagar> I see that I can do this by overriding gmp, so I'll try that
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<hyper_ch> so, I really like shellinabox now :)
<hyper_ch> gotten myself a nice little letsencrypt cert and now I can access the shell on my homeserver through the web :)
<cinimod> How do I actually get my derivation to use ghc822?
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<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: haskellPackages refers to ghc802
<vaibhavsagar> you want haskell.packages.ghc822
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<dhess> cinimod: change `haskellPackages = pkgs.haskellPackages.override` to `haskellPackges = pkgs.haskell.packages.${compiler}.override`
<hyper_ch> clever: hmmm, would it be of interested if you could set different scrubbing intervals for different pools?
<cinimod> vaibhavsagar: thanks
<cinimod> dhess: that improves what I just did - thanks
<dhess> np
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<cinimod> I am using `cabal2nix`
<cinimod> This produces a line `preConfigure = "sed -i hmatrix.cabal -e '/\\/usr\\//D'";`
<cinimod> But this causes `cabal` to fail: `Setup: ./hmatrix.cabal:119: 'then' branch of 'if' is empty`
<cinimod> If I comment the preConfigure line out then everything works
<cinimod> I just tried with `Using Cabal-2.0.1.0 compiled by ghc-8.2` and `Using Cabal-1.24.2.0 compiled by ghc-8.0`
<cinimod> Is `cabal2nix` incorrect? Or is `cabal` itself incorrect?
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<lewo> How can I force the fixup phase to remove references from the output closure?
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<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: that change to hmatrix.cabal doesn't look related to your error
<cinimod> I was just about to try by hand
<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: have you tried using nixpkgs-unstable
<cinimod> No
<vaibhavsagar> nixos-17.09 has really old versions of packages available by default
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<vaibhavsagar> stackage lts-9.3, ghc 8.0.2
<vaibhavsagar> so you'lll have to do a lot of overriding to get things to work the way you want
<vaibhavsagar> in nixpkgs-unstable the default ghc is 8.2.2 so you might have better luck if you try using that
<cinimod> Just trying
<cinimod> `bash-3.2$ nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable & bash-3.2$ nix-channel --update`
<cinimod> I presume this will take some time?
<ij> I'm changing hashedPassword of a user, but seems like a rebuild isn't changing the password.
<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: I would advise not changing it system-wide
<cinimod> Oops
<vaibhavsagar> you can change it back
<vaibhavsagar> actually you haven't changed it, my mistake
<vaibhavsagar> but you've added nixpkgs-unstable AFAICT
<vaibhavsagar> it shouldn't take very long
<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: what if you try `NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/43909be63c2a6ba2833270499c477915833a4dac.tar.gz nix-build`
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<cinimod> I just removed(?) it: `nix-channel --remove nixpkgs`
<vaibhavsagar> aaaahhhh
<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: what's the output of `nix-channel --list`
<cinimod> Nothing
<vaibhavsagar> what about `sudo nix-channel --list`?
<vaibhavsagar> actually, are you on NixOS?
<cinimod> OSX
<vaibhavsagar> I'm guessing maybe not
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<vaibhavsagar> okay, try `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable nixpkgs`
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<cinimod> Same error
<cinimod> I was about to try using the cabal command generated by nix
<cinimod> Give me a few minutes
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<mjvoge02> For some reason Ocaml in nixpkgs has core modules like 'Lexing' available but 'Location' is not available. has anyone else run into this?
<lewo> Is there a way to avoid Nix to scan output paths to generate the list of references?
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<mjvoge02> trying to use Location.~anything in location~ results in 'unbound module Location'
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9b577c4 José Luis Lafuente: gitHUD: disable tests...
<cinimod> vaibhavsagar: I have run `cabal configure` with `hmatrix.cabal` and it completes but if I do `sed "/\/usr\//D" hmatrix.cabal > hmatrix.cabal` so that the lines containing `/usr` are deleted (which is what nix does) and the run `cabal configure` I get the error `cabal: ./hmatrix.cabal:119: 'then' branch of 'if' is empty`
<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: I think you were right in the beginning then
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<cinimod> I therefore claim that `cabal2nix` is behaving incorrectly
<vaibhavsagar> fair enough
<cinimod> I will report an issue
<vaibhavsagar> what happens if you run cabal2nix --version
<cinimod> But first I need some breakfast
<cinimod> `cabal2nix 2.7`
<vaibhavsagar> yeah, I think that's the latest one
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<TonyTheLion> hello! Where do I have to put my package for nix to be able to find it when I put it in the 'nativeBuildInputs' section of my nix derivation?
<cinimod> 2.7.2 was released a few days ago
<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: you can reference the file that created it
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<TonyTheLion> you mean defaultnix?
<cinimod> Nothing obvious in the commit messages
<TonyTheLion> because currently if I put my package in there, nix claims it doesn't know what it is
<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: can you put it in a paste or a gist?
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<TonyTheLion> vaibhavsagar: I could, but its quite simple, instead of doing 'callPackage ../myPackage {};' I want to just have it in the nativeBuildInputs list and have nix find it. So 'nativeBuildInputs = [ myPackage ];'
<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: I mean so I can have a look at it :)
<vaibhavsagar> have you tried `nativeBuildInputs = [ (callPackage ../myPackage {}) ]`?
<vaibhavsagar> the parentheses are because lists in Nix are space-delimited, unlike everything else
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<TonyTheLion> vaibhavsagar: ye, but ideally we don't to have to specifiy the location of the dependency by doing '../'
<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: that's the location of the file
<TonyTheLion> which is what I'm after
<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: put the contents of the default.nix in the other file
<vaibhavsagar> again, it would help a lot if you had the contents of the files somewhere I could see them
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<TonyTheLion> vaibhavsagar: https://goo.gl/V7fwqn (line 30 and down)
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<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: what about the contents of ../nonlibc?
<vaibhavsagar> *../nonlibc/default.nix
<cinimod> That's very strange - I presume it worked otherwise it wouldn't have got merged
<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: I also linked the commit
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<vaibhavsagar> cinimod: also things that don't work get merged all the time (although I don't think this is one of those things)
<cinimod> I am mystified
<TonyTheLion> vaibhavsagar: https://goo.gl/BR85vt
<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: that second file has a reference to the current directory for src
<TonyTheLion> ye because its a compiled lib
<vaibhavsagar> how would you expect that to work without a path?
<TonyTheLion> I'm asking if its possible
<vaibhavsagar> Yes, if you have a URL for the source
<TonyTheLion> ah I see
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<TonyTheLion> so possibly i could use nix-push to make it available on a webserver
<TonyTheLion> and then do it that way\
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<vaibhavsagar> basically I've moved the path one level down into nonlibc1
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<TonyTheLion> vaibhavsagar: the parent to that paste is a different nix file
<TonyTheLion> I don't see the edit you made
<vaibhavsagar> oops, it didn't go through the first time
<TonyTheLion> ah so you'd put the two .nix files as one
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<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: is that different to what you wanted to achieve?
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<TonyTheLion> vaibhavsagar: ye it is
<vaibhavsagar> how so?
<TonyTheLion> notice how those 'nativeBuildInputs' have a list of dependencies that don't specify where nix has to find them
<TonyTheLion> thats what I want
<fearlessKim[m]> is it possible/how can I override localSystem.platform ?
<TonyTheLion> I guess I'll have to use nix-push to make the source of that one dependency available on a webserver
<TonyTheLion> and then use it like that
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<vaibhavsagar> TonyTheLion: at the end of the day you have to specify where your source code is located. This can be either a URL or a filepath
<TonyTheLion> right
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<mpickering> cinimod: It does work on nixos
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3d2a401 Gabriel Ebner: qutebrowser: 1.0.4 -> 1.1.0
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<ij> I enabled syncthing via services.syncthing.enable = true; but journalctl says it cannot make the /var/lib/syncthing directory and dies.
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<ij> Maybe I should google some configuration.nix'es that mention syncthing.
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<manveru> ij: what's your syncthing user?
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<ij> manveru: I haven't specified one, but even when I specify my user, it fails to create it, obviously.
<adisbladis> Anyone else running your CIs in a "nix-shell --pure"? How do you deal with caching your /nix/store between runs?
<manveru> well, you can create it yourself
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<manveru> ij: i assume syncthing user has no permission to do anything in /var/lib
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<tilpner> ij - I have ptpb.pw/eebz
<tilpner> ij - And then users.users.me.extraGroups = [ "sync" ];
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<ij> tilpner: Did you create the /var/lib/syncthing manually?
<tilpner> I don't remember
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<Mic92> To enable selinux to I need to do something else but boot.kernelParams = ["security=selinux" "selinux=1"]; with the default kernel?
<Dezgeg> well, you need to write the zillion policy files for all your services before it actually starts doing anything
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<zphinx[m]> boing!
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<Mic92> sure, but it still says it is disabled in the kernel.
<Mic92> I only need this to test my code, whether it can apply selinux profiles
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<betaboon> hello #nixos. i've got a question regarding nixops+ec2: is it possible to deploy machines in a VPC that do not have a public IP (eg using a vpn) ?
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<aminechikhaoui> betaboon: hm afaik I think you'll need the mapPublicIpOnLaunch for the subnet config
<aminechikhaoui> not sure if some VPC/VPN complicated setup would work though :) but interested to know if it does
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<betaboon> aminechikhaoui: is that option documented somewhere ?
<aminechikhaoui> but it's only in master branch, the VPC support was recently merged
<srhb> What's the prerequisites for adding bash completions for a nix-env -iA installed thing? I tried adding the completions to $out/etc/bash_completion.d/mything-completion.bash but that seems insufficient.
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<Aleksejs> can I update unfree package via nix-env -u pkgname?
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<betaboon> aminechikhaoui: thanks for the hint. will look into it
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 924ceda Rob Vermaas: awscli: upgrade to 1.14.22...
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<ghuntley> Looking for examples on best practices how to keep secrets out of nixos configuration files (i.e. reference a directory that's not checked into git?)
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<gchristensen> ghuntley: just reference it :)
<gchristensen> maybe you can provide more details
<vaibhavsagar> ghuntley: use git-crypt to encrypt the secrets and decrypt on the target?
<ghuntley> @gchristensen I'm still quite new to nixos... looking at others nixrc for ideas on how to layout and structure things.. looking for recommendations (tm) as I want to open-source everything at the end of this.
<ghuntley> [well everything but the secrets...]
<ghuntley> git-crypt - interesting #TIL though huge preference to not store them in the first place.. lemme look into it
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<vaibhavsagar> ghuntley: we run NixOS on all our customer-facing sites and we use git-crypt for handling secrets :)
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<vaibhavsagar> another way is environment variables
<vaibhavsagar> but then keeping those in sync is complicated, and defeats a lot of the benefits of declarative configuration
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<gchristensen> ghuntley: I frequently have a secrets.nix that I don't check in to git, and import in to my config. then I can do let secrets = import ./secrets.nix; in { .... users.root.hashedPassword = secrets.roots_hashed_password; }
<cmcdragonkai> Does anybody know what the difference between boot.loader.grub.devices vs boot.loader.grub.mirroredBoots and why does each mirrored boot submodule can further specify devices as an array?
<ghuntley> ta for sharing the syntax gchristensen that's handy!
<gchristensen> you're welcome!
<andi-> ghuntley: I use a similar approach + I use `git-secret` to encrypt the file so I can check it in.
<andi-> since the password is in my password database that is one less thing to take care of while creating backups..
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<samae> Hey, does anyone an honest comparison nixops/terraform somewhere?
<gchristensen> samae: terraform is way better at dealing with lots of different types of providers than nixops
<samae> Ok, interesting
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<gchristensen> samae: but less good at nixos-specific stuff
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<samae> I bet
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<gchristensen> I'd love to see a thing where nixops put all its "do provider-ey things" in to terraform and stopped doing it itself
<samae> gchristensen: you mean it handles more providers, or it is better at creating a mixed setup?
<samae> (like, multi-provider infrastructure)
<gchristensen> I mean on all measures it is better. it is more thorough, it handles more providers, and handles more features of those providers
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<gchristensen> NixOps has really good support for a narrow set of use cases
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<MasseR> If your infra is a nixos infra, nixops is the way to go
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<MasseR> (on a supported provider)
<gchristensen> I agree with MasseR :)
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<gchristensen> I use nixops and if I can't get support for whwat I need in nixops, I'll fall back to something else and that works fine for me
<gchristensen> so like I'll use another tool to provision the services and then manage their nixos parts with nixops
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3fe396d Jörg Thalheim: gpodder: fix crash on startup due missing GI_TYPELIB_PATH
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<Mic92> gchristensen: maybe terraform itself could be integrated into nixops?
<copumpkin> that's what ikwildrpepper is looking into I think
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<srhb> Oh, interesting.
<gchristensen> I think so :) in the meantime I wonder about just using terraform to emit a simple .nix file locally that nixops loads, hmm :)
<Mic92> you are already aware for nixform?
<gchristensen> nope
<Mic92> I was also thinking about implementing this
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<gchristensen> nice
<gchristensen> as a "1hr hack" might be able to accomplish something basic with https://www.terraform.io/docs/providers/local/r/file.html though, emitting { servername.deployment.targetIP = "theip"; }
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<Mic92> gchristensen: let me know, if you get to managed something working.
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<azazel> guys, any idea how to install nixos on a server (OVH) that gives me a root shell to a (pxe loaded) rescue system?
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<gchristensen> Mic92: ok :) I'll try
<gchristensen> azazel: can you provide your own ipxe netboot image URL?
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<azazel> gchristensen: i don't think so...
<azazel> OVH panel mentions the concept of OS templates, but I'have yet to find where to add them
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vN0I4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 089d869 adisbladis: wireshark-gtk: Fix build
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging b5be5ef Tim Steinbach: git: 2.15.1 -> 2.16.0
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<gchristensen> azazel: there are some blogs about installing nixos on hetzner machines, I think the process should be similar
<hyper_ch> (just use clever's kexec and you should be fine)
<GlennS> would nixos-infect be relevant here?
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<gchristensen> yep, clever's kexec would be perfect if your kernel will let you (what is the rescue OS?) and nixos-infect are also great choices
<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/f3fcae787a5 (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<azazel> gchristensen: thanks... this also seems relevant https://www.codejam.info/2015/12/installing-nixos-on-a-kimsufi.html
<hyper_ch> why need resuce OS for clever's kexec?
<gchristensen> hyper_ch: just that they mentioned they're already in one, but again it depends on if the kernel of their os supports/allows kexec
<azazel> gchristensen: the rescue system is a debian, at least
<hyper_ch> gchristensen: only tested kexec ones in a debian vm :) and it worked fine
<hyper_ch> s/ones/once/
<azazel> kernel version 4.14.14
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<azazel> hyper_ch: the kexec thing was for me?
<hyper_ch> yes
<gchristensen> hyper_ch: can you help them get setup with them? or GlennS could you help them get setup with nixos-infect? I can't help much right now.
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<hyper_ch> gchristensen: help whom?
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<gchristensen> lol, azazel
<hyper_ch> don't know what nixox-infect is
<azazel> lol, why?
<hyper_ch> gchristensen: azazel: I don't know much more about kexec than https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Install_NixOS_on_a_Server_With_a_Different_Filesystem
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<GlennS> azazel: Nixos-infect is here if you want to try it https://github.com/elitak/nixos-infect, but probably that wiki page is a better first place to start from
<gchristensen> or if you run out of options, check out blog posts for nixos on hetzner, etc.
<azazel> GlennS: yes thanks, It's a similar approach to what hyper_ch has proposed
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<avn> btw folks -- tell something about nixos-infect vs nixos-in-place?
<GlennS> I've not heard of nixos-in-place before
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* etu have tried nixos-infect on ubuntu 16.04 on digital ocean
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<etu> it runs nixos just fine now :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mimadrid opened pull request #34007: weka: 3.8.1 -> 3.8.2 (master...update/weka-3.8.2) https://git.io/vN0tt
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<cinimod> > mpickering: I don't think it will be easy to use the blas which comes with osx
<cinimod> It seems to work
<mpickering> well.. that's surprising
<adisbladis> avn: I have used nixos-infect with great success. Cant speak for nixos-in-place.
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<adisbladis> Iirc in-place is a bit more flexible in terms of fs layout and such
<cinimod> > <mpickering> cinimod: It does work on nixos
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<cinimod> Does that mean cabal behaves differently on osx and nixes?
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<cinimod> > well.. that's surprising
<cinimod> I could have got it wrong but I have removed all references to openblas and replaced them with blas
<avn> adisbladis: it have little interesting trick with keeping /nixos in one dir of real fs, and keep /old_root bindmounted
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master efe5528 Bart Brouns: maxlib: 1.5.5 -> 1.5.7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master abf20c0 Bart Brouns: cyclone: 0.1-alpha55 -> 0.3beta-2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c6fd841 Bart Brouns: timbreID: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.0
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<mpickering> cinimod: Isn't it using a nix version of blas rather than openblas?
<cinimod> Yes
<cinimod> And is openblas == blas in nix maybe?
<mpickering> but that isn't the version of blas which comes with osx?
<cinimod> I see what you mean
<mpickering> no, they are different packages
<mpickering> but I have no idea what blas nor openblas is
<cinimod> basis linear algebra something
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<mpickering> both blas and openblas appear to be packaged, I don't know when/why you might want to use either
<mpickering> good job it works now though and thanks for chasing up the prs
<adisbladis> grahamc: Are you still looking for help with https://twitter.com/grhmc/status/952649177607102464 ?
<cinimod> I think thanks to @peti's intervention we now have a version of hmatrix which builds in nix both on osx and nixos
<adisbladis> I'm looking for a project to learn elixir but dont really know what to make :)
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<cinimod> I think I meant I don't have to use `-fopenblas` to build hmatrix and I thought this was the same as using the native libraries on osx. Clearly I was mistaken and I am picking up the nix versions of blas and lapack. @peti has arranged things so that the default in nix is to use openblas. There may be performance differences but I am not going to investigate that just at the moment.
<mpickering> that seems right
<cinimod> mpickering: thank you and everyone else on this channel
<mpickering> feel free to ping me with haskell packaging questions in future
<cinimod> I still have a few things to try on hmatrix - one of the problems with stack is that it doesn't detect if I change the c source in the hmatrix package and the only way to get the c to rebuild is to nuke the .stackwork(?) folder
<cinimod> I am hoping nix will detect the c sources have changed and rebuild
<cinimod> Then I have 2 C++ packages which use entirely different versions of boost - I am hoping that nix will allow me to have both simultaneously
<cinimod> And finally I want to use Haskell, R and Python together
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<cinimod> mpickering: thanks everyone in the nix world has been very helpful
<Myrl-saki> nix-shell -E 'with (import <nixpkgs> {}); [gcc7 (import ./.)]'
<Myrl-saki> A single derivation is required. :x
<Myrl-saki> I tried using nix-shell -p and -E together, but they're mutually exclusive.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #34009: git: 2.15.1 -> 2.16.0 (master...update/git-2.16.0) https://git.io/vN0mD
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<dtz> weeeeeee
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<dtz> Myrl-saki: I just made a PR fixing a project's use of nix-shell in the way you're trying to use it: https://github.com/studio/studio/pull/62 -- see that for explanation and the changes show how to do it
<dtz> nix-shell -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; mkShell { nativeBuildInputs = [ gcc7 (import ./.)]; }'
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c61a9df Leon Schuermann: sshd: provide option to disable firewall altering
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] adisbladis pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN0Y5
<dtz> if you have new-ish nixpkgs with 'mkShell' helper, else you can use runCommandNoCC or something like I did therer
<Myrl-saki> dtz: Ohhh
<Myrl-saki> dtz: That's pretty cool.
<Myrl-saki> dtz: Wait, what does --run do?
<Myrl-saki> dtz: And what does runCommandNoCC do?
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<dtz> it's a bit wonky
<dtz> maybe we should teach nix-shell a new tricks
<Myrl-saki> Some other question. Why are my programs so slow when I use hardeningDisable=all?
<Myrl-saki> To even go from 0.5s to 2.7s
<TonyTheLion> I cannot find an example on how to add the 'pathAttr' so that I can do 'nix-build -A myPackage'
<dtz> Myrl-saki: it's like stdenv.mkDerivation only it is geared for run commands not building things, and the "no CC" part means doesn't pull in the normal compiler
<TonyTheLion> anyone can provide me with an example?
<dtz> Myrl-saki: o_O
<Myrl-saki> 0.5s on -O0, and 2.7s on (-O3, hardeningDisable=all)
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<dtz> Myrl-saki: maybe because they're not bind-now ? And I was gonna say maybe you don't have an -O flag because hardening fority sets -O2
<Myrl-saki> dtz: I specified -O3 with hardeningDisable=all, maybe my make is broken.
<dtz> I'm not sure. Maybe profile or trace to see what it's doing in those seconds. haha
* Myrl-saki will have to check
<symphorien> Myrl-saki: be aware that hardening makes gcc ignore -O flags, it's -O2 anyway https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/build-support/cc-wrapper/add-hardening.sh#L34
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<dtz> yeah, it dropping to "-O0" from "-O2" would be painful, and build systems can be tricky tricksters
<symphorien> ah sorry that was already said
<Myrl-saki> symphorien: Yep.
<Myrl-saki> symphorien: I learned that just right now when I read the nixpkgs issue again.
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<Myrl-saki> symphorien: THe problem is that I specified -O3, and I Think I'm still building at -O0.
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<symphorien> you can pass -v to gcc to be sure
<Myrl-saki> `rm -rf build; export CFLAGS="-O3 -fopt-info-optimized -funroll-loops -ftree-vectorize -mavx2"; cmake -H. -Bbuild && bash -c "cd build && make && cp -f ./asciivn .."`
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill closed pull request #34009: git: 2.15.1 -> 2.16.0 (master...update/git-2.16.0) https://git.io/vN0mD
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<Myrl-saki> symphorien: So...
<Myrl-saki> Basically. I'm stupid.
<Myrl-saki> :D
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<Myrl-saki> symphorien: THanks, the -v did the trick. I don't know how to CMake.
<symphorien> another trick is NIX_DEBUG=1 which makes the wrapper print what arguments it transparently adds
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #33879: linux_beagleboard: 4.9.61-ti-r76 -> 4.14.12-ti-r23 (master...linux-beagleboard-4.14.12) https://git.io/vNcbf
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d4dbe03 Shea Levy: Revert "openjdk: 8u152 -> 8u162"...
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<ixxie> FRidh - you here?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 5cc5c3f Eelco Dolstra: Merge pull request #1799 from iavael/manpath-fix-1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master ebc42f8 Iavael: Fix manpath detection...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master a65376b Peter Stuart: Remove extra space.
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 5647e55 Eelco Dolstra: Merge pull request #1793 from peterstuart/fix-extra-space...
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<sadasdasd> is paths like NIXPKGS_HWCLOCK works?
<gchristensen> sadasdasd: it looks like it is used in a very specific, singular case: https://search.nix.gsc.io/?q=NIXPKGS_HWCLOCK&i=nope&files=&repos=
<sadasdasd> i need path to locales
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<dtz> sadasdasd: glibcLocales ?
<sadasdasd> yes
<dtz> :)
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<dtz> err to be clear I'm suggesting that's the attribute you want-- so if you pass it into whatever expression you're working on (add as an argument) you can get the path with something like: "${glibcLocales}/lib/locale"
<dtz> not at all sure what the best way to fix that plasma thing is, but regarding your question "how do I get a path to the locales" that should help :)
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<gchristensen> anyone here with an xps 9560 who uses their laptop with external displays? I'm having funny resolution problems, and really have just never setup a linux machine with multiple (changing) displays
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN0np
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7177c9e Peter Hoeg: physfs: 2.0.3 -> 3.0.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4dec261 Peter Hoeg: asc: compile against older physfs
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<gchristensen> cc domenkozar ^ :)
<boegel> is there a way to figure out how a particular package that Nix is installing was configured/built ? Which configure options, etc.?
<fpletz> gchristensen: for the changing displays part: autorandr :)
<Mic92> autorandr++
<Mic92> maybe arandr for initial setup.
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<Mic92> the readme of autorandr explains it well
<gchristensen> I hear that is the thing! I'm having troubles with the resolution of my second screen, supporting 2560 x 1440 but arandr will only take it to 1920x1080. I suspect it might be the hdmi cable that is limiting it?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 12b7def Matthew O'Gorman: platformio: 3.5.0 -> 3.5.1
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<gchristensen> or maybe I need to activate my nvidia card to properly use the resolution ...
<shlevy> ooh autorandr
<shlevy> Could my display woes be over?
<Mic92> gchristensen: you can invent new modlines, if your nvidia does not its job
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<gchristensen> thanks Mic92, right now I'm having a comically large resolution ^ :)
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<srhb> High dpi displays are the devil
<srhb> gchristensen: Love it :P Keep it like that. Great for the eyes, too
<gchristensen> the devil? low DPI displays are so last millennium
<srhb> Well, so am I!
<hyper_ch> azazel: so, did you m ana
<hyper_ch> did you manage it?
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<hyper_ch> azazel: that kexec howto uses zfs as FS.... if course you can use a different filesystem but zfs is awesome :)
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<boegel> *** Downloading ‘https://cache.nixos.org/nar/09l2ljg1s8grvlfjnis31996r3lymqgamy1brsbqh1f9babdyihy.nar.xz’ to ‘/nix/store/038ylk1aarmf1nf7h7i9s6wrxkg7h267-fftw-double-3.3.7’
<boegel> can I grab the build log for that particular binary package somewhere?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN0lX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 809a09e Peter Simons: hackage: update all-cabal-hashes snapshot to Hackage at 2018-01-18T14:32:45Z
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 29f0f38 Peter Simons: multi-ghc-travis: update to latest Git version and create a proper Haskell build...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mnacamura opened pull request #34014: mathematica: enable installation of localized editions (master...mathematica-l10n) https://git.io/vN08I
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<dtz> boegel: you'll need nix 1.12 to get the logs easily, then you just use 'nix log'
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<boegel> dtz: nix 1.12 is not the latest release?
<boegel> seems like I have nix-1.11.16
<dtz> uhh probably can help you get this particular log 1 sec
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 654542b Michael Raskin: libmpc: update source URL
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN08X
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<srhb> boegel: 1.11.x is the latest. 1.12 is pre-release
<boegel> ok
<gchristensen> if anyone has a xps 9560 with a working multi-monitor setup, I'd love to pick your brain :)
<dtz> 1.12 is "nixUnstable" and it's.. "unstable" :(.
<dtz> well I mean it could be. It's often now, but..
<dtz> yeah
<dtz> pre-release seems a better term :)
<boegel> dtz: how did you figure out that link?
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<gchristensen> dtz: I thought nix-store in 1.11 would do the trick
<dtz> i have nix 1.12, and ran it in verbose mode to see the URL it was fetching lol
<boegel> hah, ok
<dtz> gchristensen: 1.11 supported getting logs a different way I thought
<LnL> doesn't nix-store -l /nix/store/foo.drv work?
<dtz> you could setup a nix.conf thing I think
<LnL> or is that only locally
<dtz> locally, unless you use an option removed in 1.12 called "log-servers" IIRC
<filwisher> What is the recommended approach for declaratively managing my system binaries (vim/firefox/...) in Arch using nix? Would it be something like a default.nix in $HOME?
<dtz> 1.12 moves to fetching it as part of the store abstraction, which is neat
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e1db0af Tim Steinbach: openjdk: 8u152 -> 8u172
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<azazel> hyper_ch: not yet
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] veprbl opened pull request #34015: python-telegram-bot: init at 9.0.0 (master...pytgbot) https://git.io/vN0RN
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<ertes-w> my NIX_PATH has <nixpkgs> pointing to root's channel, but i have a separate channel for my regular user… what's the proper way to have NIX_PATH point to that one?
<ertes-w> (other than completely overriding it)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 3898dc1 Tim Steinbach: openjdk: 8u152 -> 8u172...
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<hyper_ch> azazel: basically what that kexec does is reboot the server into nixos that's only contained in ram... then just with the installation from a iso you partition stuff and mount stuff into /mnt and do a nixos-installation then :) so you really have a fresh nixos... don't install too many things at first, just the basic system and have it reboot :) then expand
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #34016: perf-tools: 20160418 -> 20171219 (master...update/perf-tools-20171219) https://git.io/vN0EW
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<sadasdasd> for https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/33987 fix needed in ki18n in kcatalog.cpp in KCatalog::availableCatalogLanguages function, its all i found
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<srhb> Any idea how to go about debugging systemctl kexec simply hanging at loading the new kernel?
<symphorien> shrb: I had some problems with the graphics module (here i915) if it wasn't loaded early somehow the kernel would be loaded correctly but the display could stay blank because.
<TonyTheLion> can anyone tell me how I get 'nix-build -A myPackage' to recognized 'myPackage'. I know the -A flag is for 'attrPath', but how do I specifiy that in my nix derivation?
<srhb> symphorien: Hm, here it's just stuck at the last line of the system shutting down forever.
<srhb> TonyTheLion: Are you building a standalone nix package?
<TonyTheLion> ye
<srhb> TonyTheLion: If so, the expression should be of the form { myPackage = }
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<symphorien> sorry no idea then
<srhb> symphorien: Thanks anyway :)
<TonyTheLion> so { myPackage = stdenv.mkDerivation { ... }}
<srhb> TonyTheLion: Something like that, yes :)
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<TonyTheLion> srhb: Thank you :) Let me try that
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<srhb> TonyTheLion: nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; { foo = hello; }' -A foo
<srhb> TonyTheLion: (Of course, you'd stick that in your default.nix instead of using -E)
<TonyTheLion> thanks! That worked!
<srhb> TonyTheLion: Great :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #34017: Fix build of linuxPackages.perf (master...fix/perf-compilation) https://git.io/vN0zV
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<concatime> I have an account with Mullvad which provides WireGuard support. How to use it on NIxOS?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f12f2ed Shea Levy: haskell-ide-engine: Fix build in sandbox
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<hyper_ch> concatime: or more specific https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Wireguard#Client_setup
<concatime> hyper_ch: But Mullvad have a custom files.
<hyper_ch> and what's in that custom files?
<hyper_ch> it has a destination address
<hyper_ch> it has keys
<hyper_ch> etc.
<concatime> So I have to copy manuaaly?
<hyper_ch> you could also add wireguard to the list of installed packages and try to run their config with wg-quick but never tried and it seems bothersome
<concatime> I tried, but
<concatime> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported
<concatime> "the wireguard kernel module was not installed correctly"
<hyper_ch> wg runs fine here
<concatime> Yes, but not wg-quick up
<concatime> 'sudo wg-quick up mullvad-XXX' > Operation not supported
<hyper_ch> so then use the config
<concatime> I will give it a shot thank you
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #34018: fetchpatch: Add support for an arbitrary extra prefix (master...fetchpatch) https://git.io/vN0wE
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<sphalerite_> I've added checking to dnsmasq to make the system fail to build if the config file is invalid and want to add a test checking this. Is it possible to expect a derivation to fail to build?
<sphalerite_> s/dnsmasq/the dnsmasq module/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #34018: fetchpatch: Add support for an arbitrary extra prefix (master...fetchpatch) https://git.io/vN0wE
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<disasm> concatime: you have latest kernel booted? I got the same error on my d.o box and it was because I needed to reboot.
<disasm> err vultr box :)
<stphrolland> Hi. So as to avoid the issue with stack failing with the cassava flag, I was told to install the unstable.stack version. Unfortunately stack build do not work because of an explicit call to /bin/bash during the make install of GHC. How do you guys compile your haskell project when on nixos 17.09 ?
<concatime> disasm: I'm using the latest kernel, and I already rebooted.
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<disasm> stphrolland: I'm new to the whole haskell realm, but I was reading both of these: https://docs.haskellstack.org/en/stable/nix_integration/ https://ocharles.org.uk/blog/posts/2014-02-04-how-i-develop-with-nixos.html
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<concatime> I'm having an error: Cannot find device "wg0"
<stphrolland> disasm: the issue with the cassava flag that stack is not able to read is recent. A couple of months I think. It's not a general issue, it's a temporary issue until the version nixos.stable.stack is ok. That's the reason I tried to run with the unstable.stack package, without success unfortunately. I'll read your links however, but I don't think it will help. Thanks anyway.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bendlas pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN06I
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 330104b Herwig Hochleitner: leiningen: 2.7.1 -> 2.8.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6a84b3f Herwig Hochleitner: webkitgtk: 2.18.4 -> 2.18.5...
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<disasm> ah k, sorry can't help more stphrolland
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bendlas pushed 2 new commits to release-17.09: https://git.io/vN068
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 d17dd86 Herwig Hochleitner: webkitgtk: 2.18.4 -> 2.18.5...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 3d02b91 Herwig Hochleitner: leiningen: 2.7.1 -> 2.8.1
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<FRidh> ` /build/xz-5.2.3/src/xz/.libs/lt-xz: ./files/good-*.xz: No such file or directory `
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<FRidh> when building with the store at a custom location
<FRidh> regardless of sandbox
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<samae> Hey, sorry to insist but this (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/33990) is very bad.
<samae> Can you think of any workaround? I can't for now.
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<mrkgnao> did NixOS switch wireless device names recently? ip link says what used to be wlp8s0 is now wlan0 again like in the good old days
<FRidh> LnL: right, but why would that now cause failures when building myself?
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<FRidh> it is inside a chroot
<LnL> I suspect it's an issue with a dependency
<LnL> that has a reference to /build when it shouldn't
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<Ralith> anyone know why steam's tray icon might be missing?
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<FRidh> LnL: it happens with a lot of derivations
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<adisbladis> mrkgnao: I guess you are on the unstable channel? We had a regression recently in interface names that was promptly fixed so an update should solve that.
<mrkgnao> adisbladis: correct, I use unstable
<mrkgnao> thanks!
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<Ralith> Mic92: bennofs: either of you around? the new cargo vendor based rust stuff doesn't seem to be able to handle git dependencies
<Mic92> Ralith: not a regression
<Mic92> the old one also did not .
<Ralith> well, the new one uses tools that claim to :P
<Mic92> *if cargo supports*
<Mic92> I think our cargo version is still the old one
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #34020: linux-steam-integration: Append "Settings" to launcher menu item (master...benley/lsi-settings) https://git.io/vN0yP
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<Ralith> ??
<Ralith> yes, cargo claims to support this now
<Mic92> the problem was, that cargo was downloading git dependencies
<Mic92> I am not sure, what the current state is
<Ralith> I'm supplying the latest version to makeRustPlatform
<Ralith> the current state is that `cargo vendor` and `cargo` both allegedly support this case but it does not work on nix
<Ralith> perhaps a cargo bug, idk yet
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #33998: pypy: 5.9.0 -> 5.10.0 (master...pypy) https://git.io/vNRgs
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<Ralith> Mic92: looks like the problem is the .cargo/config generated by nix is incorrect
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<hl> Hi. Is there some way to recover a deleted /etc/nixos/configuration.nix?
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e1db0afd61e (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<pierron_> Is anybody using rsnapshot, how does it work with remote which are not constantly available (turned off) ?
<nixy> hl: I'm not sure if that actually get's committed to the nix store or not
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<hl> Looks like it doesn't by default. crap.
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<nixy> Yeah that's more or less what I found, but I wasn't sure if it was just hiding from me
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe config.system.copySystemConfiguration should become the default…
<hl> Seems like it would be a good idea.
<nixy> Yeah I would be thoroughly for that defaulting to true
<MichaelRaskin> Well, it is misleading as soon as you don't have everything in a single file.
<nixy> It'd be nice if it could generate a list of imported .nix files and link those too (dreamer talk here)
<nixy> I don't know any way to do that without it becoming messy though
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<MichaelRaskin> And of course everyone who could write that has zero reasons to do it, because why exactly would the configuration not be in a VCS.
<tilpner> nixy - I have ptpb.pw/h-9n in my config, it saves all my config every time
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<tilpner> nixy - You still need to be careful to keep all your config in that directory, and to keep the directory small (don't clone nixpkgs there)
<nixy> Yeah, I'm not opposed to tilpners solution (it's pretty nifty) but I'm not sure that's good for general case
<tilpner> Definitely not fit to be a default
<nixy> I put nixpkgs in your nix store so you can nix while you nix dawg
<MichaelRaskin> Nixpkgs with complete history, mind you
<tilpner> Just nixpkgs would be fine. .git... not so much
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<samueldr> nixpkgs may be in your store already if you're using channels, wouldn't it?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vN07m
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging a18053b John Ericson: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into staging
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<MichaelRaskin> Compressed, though
<samueldr> yeah
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<MichaelRaskin> Uncompressed Nixpkgs is large even without history
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<tilpner> <15MB, that's okay
<tilpner> Oh, maybe noto
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #34021: boomerang: switch to new active fork, cleanup, maintain (master...update/boomerang-20180118) https://git.io/vN075
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<adisbladis> 147M uncompressed
<tilpner> 122M :/
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<rauno> When defining custom systemd service (some binary) how can i define correct PATH for that service ?
<rauno> not sure why its different from systems..
<samueldr> iirc it's isolated to have nothing in PATH^[citation needed]
<rauno> okay, so how to define the needed packages which should be in path?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jammerful opened pull request #34022: Update Shibboleth Service Provider Packages (master...master) https://git.io/vN05U
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<samueldr> it looks like there are multiple ways used in the different nixos services
<samueldr> (grepping through nixos/modules/services/)
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<samueldr> though, this should serve your needs rauno https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#systemd.service+path
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<rauno> oh, great !
<rauno> not sure why i didnt check there, usually do it
<samueldr> :)
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: ping
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<hoverbear> I see a lot of transient failures with NixOS when calling cc via Cargo. Is this normak?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill closed pull request #32957: gnuplot_full: init with support for lua/tikz/tex (master...feature/gnuplot-extra-terminals) https://git.io/vbSjm
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill closed pull request #33621: networkmanager: 1.10.0 -> 1.10.2, update users (staging...update/nm) https://git.io/vNLgy
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<domenkozar> gchristensen: pong
<gchristensen> domenkozar: do you have your xps working with multiple monitors? :)
<domenkozar> yes
<gchristensen> do you use nvidia + intel drivers
<domenkozar> nvidia is disabled
<domenkozar> at hardware level
<MichaelRaskin> That's an easy cop-put!
<MichaelRaskin> (Me has Optimus with VGA-out through NVidia, and actual Nouveau with Prime)
<gchristensen> hardware level! really? how? also, is your secondary display also high DPI? I'm finding it difficult to properly configure my large display to have a sufficient resolution, and I'm not sure if it is (1) pebcak (2) the fault of the cable, (3) some driver
<MichaelRaskin> Hardware level is probably BIOS
<MichaelRaskin> Can you configure it at a high DPI and low refresh (30Hz)?
<gchristensen> good question
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<__red__> I'm wanting to build a linux distro that has a large number of domain-specific tools. Is there any concept of a second pkgs-like namespace such that derivations could reference normal nixos packages?
<__red__> (I recognise this is probably an XY problem, so feel free to say there's a better way to solve that problem)
<MichaelRaskin> Have you read anything about Nixpkgs overlays?
<__red__> So, about that. I was explicitly googling for those terms and didn't find anything.
<__red__> since I'm an ex-Gentoo'er... layman was where my brain went first.
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<MichaelRaskin> Google is not your friend, neither it has anywhere decent recall
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<__red__> I hunted through the manual for nixos, I guess in hindsight the nix packages maniual would have made more sense
<__red__> thanks for the pointer - that's likely exactly what I'm looking for
<MichaelRaskin> Just this morning I wondered if it is a good idea to have a United Huge Manual
<MichaelRaskin> (Concatenation of all HTML manuals on NixOS.org, basically)
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<MichaelRaskin> __red__: you might _also_ be interested in taking a careful look at expressions for xorg or kde or pythonPackages
<MichaelRaskin> So that you have an overlay that adds a package set structured like pythonPackages
<gchristensen> I can, MichaelRaskin. everything is a bit ... big still, but much more reasonable. probably because of my 2.5x multiplication on everything due to the density of my laptop's screen.
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<gchristensen> (that is, it works okay at 2560x1440 at 30hz, but at 60hz it says "xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed"
<MichaelRaskin> Oh right, yes, X11 doesn't seem to have a good solution to two monitors with drastically different DPIs
<gchristensen> is that something wayland is looking to fix? do we support wayland? :P
<MichaelRaskin> We somewhat support Wayland.
<MichaelRaskin> Not sure it has a good solution, though
<MichaelRaskin> Frankly, an X11 compositing manager could have a good solution.
<__red__> I'll take a look. Honestly, I'm still 75% cargo-cult with my nix expression writing (although I do still have 2 packages in stable I'm maintaining) :-)
<MichaelRaskin> __red__: just in case — there is also Nix manual, it is a third separate text.
* gchristensen looks up compositing managers
<MichaelRaskin> I think Compiz (is it still alive?) lacked mouse input in scaled windows.
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe Kwin could be configured…
<__red__> unfortunately, you kinda have to choose between single point of failure and performance
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<gchristensen> I deleted Compiz a while back. one thing I could look in to is just not using my laptop's display, that wouldn't hurt my feelings too much.
<__red__> wrt windowing systems
<__red__> anyways - brb - ans thanks again MichaelRaskin
<gchristensen> * that is, while plugged
<copumpkin>
<copumpkin> $ nix-env --rollback
<copumpkin> error: no generation older than the current (1) exists
<copumpkin> :(
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: there is a catch that changing application DPI usually requires restart
<copumpkin> gchristensen: is that something weird with how the user env gets created on darwin?
<MichaelRaskin> (of the application)
<gchristensen> guh, that's right, MichaelRaskin.
<gchristensen> copumpkin: I don't follow
<MichaelRaskin> I can offer an ultra-weird advice, of course…
<MichaelRaskin> VNC allows scaling…
<copumpkin> gchristensen: if I just did a fresh multi-user install and nix-env -iA something, it seems like I should be able to roll back to nothingness
<copumpkin> not sure if that's the case on linux
<copumpkin> but my fresh darwin multi-user install isn't letting me roll back to nothingness
<MichaelRaskin> copumpkin: I think first nix-env -i _creates_ the profile
<MichaelRaskin> There is no obligatory initial-empty-commit
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe it is wrong…
<copumpkin> hmm
<copumpkin> I guess you're right
<copumpkin> just tried on linux and it did the same
<gchristensen> jeeze MichaelRaskin, that is weird :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] deepfire opened pull request #34023: GHC 8.4: compiler and package fixes (master...x-ghc-8.4-master) https://git.io/vNEvS
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<copumpkin> to the issue tracker!
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<LnL> generation 1 :O
<copumpkin> muahahaha
<copumpkin> gotta keep up my record of the most issues
<copumpkin> globin, fpletz: award to you for the most backhanded compliment at NixCon 2017 :P
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<copumpkin> j/k
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<__red__> MichaelRaskin: I'm not sure I fully follow the overlays docs. Do you know of anyone / anything / anyproject that uses it such that I could see more examples?
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<__red__> thanks
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<bind> good evening
<bind> (or morning or day)
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<bind> I am just trying to do my first nixos install .. is this the right place to ask questions? :)
<samueldr> about nixos, yes!
<bind> struggling with wifi
<samueldr> graphical or minimal iso?
<bind> graphical iso
<bind> from usb
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<samueldr> what kind of issues with wifi?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c278dd0 Jan Tojnar: bustle: re-enable hgettext support...
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<bind> so .. I found a link on the internet where they wrote about systemctl stop wpa_supplicant ... and creating a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf with the output of wpa_passphrase
<bind> but I still cannot ping anything :)
<gchristensen> !!! MichaelRaskin, Mic92, with both of y'all's help, domen's comment, and a note from obadz, I have multi-monitor with reasonable display sizes!
<samueldr> you may want to use nmtui bind
<bind> ifconfig does not give me an ip4 address
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<bind> nmtui?
<bind> let me see..
<bind> will boot up again :)
<samueldr> text user interface for network-manager, iirc it's on the graphical iso (if it isn't on minimal)
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<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: so you just tolerate 30Hz and DPI mismatch?
<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: well, we'll see, but this is progress and progress is good. do you have any suggestions on fixing the hz?
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<MichaelRaskin> Not really — haven't has anything larger than 1920x1200 where 60Hz seems to be fine anyway
<__red__Away> I run 4k@30hz and it doesn't bother me here fwiw
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<__red__Away> pwd
<gchristensen> /home/grahamc
<__red__Away> haha,
<__red__Away> I would gchristensen++ you but we're immutable and pure on this channel ;-)
<gchristensen> hah!
<bind> samueldr: it is on there; nmtui
<samueldr> bind: does it help?
<bind> samueldr: yay! :) it does
<MichaelRaskin> Nobody has ever convinced me that just writing wpa_supplicant.conf by hand is more complicated than looking up what is the supposed user0friendly method this month.
<bind> samueldr: but ... why didn't wpa_supplicant?
<samueldr> bind: dunno!
<bind> samueldr: any ideas? or just leave it for now? :)
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<samueldr> I'm no network wiz, that's why I'm leaving it to network-manager
<MichaelRaskin> wpa_supplicant doesn't call dhclient on its own
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<__red__Away> must bite tongue, must bite tongue
<bind> samueldr: I see
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<bind> MichaelRaskin: I tried to invoke dhclient ... but it doesnt seem to be on the iso?
<Mic92> bind: dhcpcd is
<samueldr> it may be a dhcp service
<samueldr> ^
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<etu> dhcpcd is a client
<bind> aah ... I see ... dhclient is somewhere tucked away in the nix store directory?
<bind> but not on PATH
<samueldr> (I meant that it may have been a systemd service named dhcp*something*)
<MichaelRaskin> dhcpcd is another implementation of DHCP client, I think
<samueldr> that, yes
<bind> so I guess ... the nmtui (network manager ui thing) called the dhclient for me now?
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<MichaelRaskin> Or dhcpcd
<bind> MichaelRaskin: you mean one or the other client program was being called in order to get an ip address for my interface?
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<MichaelRaskin> Yes
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<bind> but how to make the dhcp client accessible to me (it is somewhere in the nix store ... but not on path) I guess I should be able to find/call it without much trouble?
<bind> I guess I should read up on nix...
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<bind> anyway .. thank you very much :) I will try to proceed with the installation
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<srhb> bind: Normally you'd install something either into environment.systemPackages (if on NixOS) or in your user profile, and it will be on your PATH.
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<srhb> How do I delete old kernels before doing anything else? I think the logic is in the switch script somewhere, but the order is wrong.
<srhb> From /boot, that is
<srhb> (I can just nuke them manually, but I'd rather not.)
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<gchristensen> so I think you have to GC some system profiles, _then_ do a nixos-rebuild switch, and if that doesn't work you then have to go in and do some GC-by-hand
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<srhb> I gc'ed all generations and switching is still impossible because there's no space for bzImage.
<srhb> I'll just nuke some kernels manually. :)
<srhb> I bet it will correctly gc them after it can place the one version there correctly.
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<gchristensen> yeah that is gnarly :/
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<srhb> I think it's just an ordering issue. can probably track it down.
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<srhb> Yup, deleting an arbitrary one unblocked everything and all the old ones are now gone. :)
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<MichaelRaskin> In my not-really-NixOS system I have actually written the config generator to make sure old kernels are deleted correctly.
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<srhb> I understand why it's not the garbage collectors job to do it, but it sure would simplify things.
<gchristensen> IMO it is the GC's job to do it, but there is a lack of hooks to do it
<typetetris> nix pill 12 is damaged .. gcc downloaded with channel uh, oh nixpkgs-unstable my my ... maybe I should switch to a stable channel.
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: nope
<srhb> I think it's a bit scary to have the gc move out of the store.
<MichaelRaskin> GC should not assume /boot is mounted at all
<typetetris> how can I change the channel I am using?
<gchristensen> yes, the gc itself shouldn't do it, but I think a hook system which can be ... hooked in to ... would be good
<srhb> typetetris: "using" ? :)
<gchristensen> typetetris: what is wrong with pill #12?
<srhb> typetetris: You can have several channels at once
<srhb> typetetris: Just add them with nix-channel
<nixy> typetetris: Channels are weird
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<srhb> typetetris: You can then refer to their names with nix-env (as in nix-env -iA channelName.package)
<typetetris> @gchristensen with unstable channel it fails to compile graphviz.
<gchristensen> the story here, IMO, isn't that channels should be changed, but that the pill should be fixed
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<srhb> typetetris: graphviz builds fine on my nixos-unstable
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: it is actually easy to remove old kernels before copying new ones
<gchristensen> srhb: the pills do it differently
<typetetris> You need to add a `-Wno-error=unused-variable` than and probably some others somehow.
<MichaelRaskin> If NixOS officially admits that it is not always the only system sitting on the same store, I would try to merge my GRUB-config-merger into NixOS
<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: what does that mean?
<typetetris> how can I make a stable channel my default channel? @srhb: don't want to use that syntax all the time.
<MichaelRaskin> NixOS assumes that system-*-link are all NixOS, and these are the only things that want profile-based bootloader entries. And it thinks that it can generate the configs from scratch for each entry.
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<srhb> typetetris: I don't think there's such a thing as a default channel, but I don't know for sure.
<gchristensen> ahh I see, MichaelRaskin
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<srhb> typetetris: (And if you mean the -A, I think you should always use that anyway :))
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<nixy> typetetris: No such thing as a default channel
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<bind> samueldr: I guess my nix configuration would need a networking.networkmanager.enable = true ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1dade86 Tuomas Tynkkynen: hdparm: 9.52 -> 9.53
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<samueldr> if you want to use networkmanager
<MichaelRaskin> In reality I want to have multiple profiles be bootable systems, and have a protocol that allows each of them have its own logic about generating boot options and placing the kernel.
<bind> samueldr: well it works right now .. so I guess I would like :D
<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: having seen the horrors of the systemd / grub bootloader config generators, I don't disagree :)
<MichaelRaskin> Well. I do have it with my multiple approaches to system assembly, it's just NixOS that doesn't fit in.
<va1entin> Does somebody know why it is impossible to change services.xserver.displayManager.sddm.theme when using Plasma5?
<michalrus> Emmm, how do I setup the broadcast address for a statically configured network interface?
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<michalrus> Because right now I have it at inet addr:10.77.4.1 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0
<MichaelRaskin> I just assume that /nix/var/nix/profiles/*/boot/for-bootloader is the list of all things to consider.
<typetetris> So I have to add a stable channel and remove the unstable channel to get the stuff from the stable channel per default ?
<srhb> michalrus: By setting the appropriate prefix I assume
<MichaelRaskin> (then I say that kernels in /boot that are not mentioned in these places _now_ get removed before anything large gets written to /boot)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bachp opened pull request #34025: minio: 2018-01-02T23-07-00Z -> 2018-01-18T20-33-21Z (master...minio-security2) https://git.io/vNEmH
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<michalrus> srhb: why do I have it at 0.0.0.0 then? :c
<srhb> michaelrus: How did you set up your address?
<MichaelRaskin> And this for-bootloader has snippets for whatever bootloaders are supported. Right Now it is grub2_efi only for me, but let's just say it is easy to extend.
<nixy> typetetris: If you use `nix-env -i $package` nix will choose the latest version available from all channels. People usually prefer to specify a channel explicitly with `nix-env -iA $channel.$package`
<michalrus> srhb: networking.interfaces.wlan0.ip4 = [{ address = "10.77.4.1"; prefixLength = 24; }];
<srhb> Also because "latest" is fishy in some cases.
<srhb> michalrus: That's odd.
<typetetris> ok thank you very much
<michalrus> And I started wondering why that linux router didn’t respond to arp requests…
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<michalrus> And here’s why.
<michalrus> If you git-grep Nixpkgs for broadcast, there’s not much useful results either.
<srhb> michalrus: Maybe I'm just misremembering, but I sure thought it was set from the prefix by default.
<srhb> michalrus: Maybe that isn't the case.
<michalrus> Seems so. :c
<michalrus> So is there any… fallback? Like how should I set up the interface issuing commands myself?
<srhb> michalrus: localCommands probably
<michalrus> networking.localCommands, wonderful! Thanks.
<michalrus> Should I post an issue?
<typetetris> hmm if I do `nix-channel --add <url-to-17.09> nixpkgs` and try my build again, it complains `binutils-unwrapped` doesn't exist, which is assumed to exist by the nix pills , so that didn't help either.
<srhb> michalrus: Yes please!
<michalrus> Kay!
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<srhb> typetetris: Someone mentioned that yesterday (wasn't it you?) and the problem there was the implicit assumption of the builder that binutils-unwrapped is set as an env var, but it's not because it has a dash in it
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<typetetris> Yes and no. I mentioned the problem I had with the dash, and you can't use environment variables with a dash in them in bash try `${test-uiaae}`. But the problem now is, some compiler switches are missing to get graphviz to compile and trying an older channel, to get an older compiler yielded me the error `error: undefined variable ‘binutils-unwrapped’`
<bind> oke ... failure because of missing /boot directory :D I will try again tomorrow.. almost forgot how involved the trying out linux experience can be :)
<typetetris> or `test-uiaeiua=blah` on bash cli.
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<ij> Does changing the kernel result in a rebuild of everything?
<gchristensen> no
<srhb> ij: Not under any normal circumstances.
<srhb> michalrus: Thank you, excellent :)
<michalrus> Thanks again!
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<typetetris> Can I open issues for the nix pills somewhere?
<typetetris> Thanks, there already is https://github.com/NixOS/nix-pills/issues/40
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<typetetris> and now there is https://github.com/NixOS/nix-pills/issues/43
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<erko> hi! i broke my grub bootloader.. I can just enter the system by manually setting prefix/root in the grub resucue mode.. But I cannot make this change permanent.. Tried to nixos-rebuild switch, but I always get to the rescue terminal when rebooting... any suggestins for me?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yrashk opened pull request #34029: gdbgui: 0.9.1.0 -> 0.10.1.0 (master...gdbgui-0.10.1.0) https://git.io/vNEcZ
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d45b33f Tim Steinbach: Merge pull request #29300 from vdemeester/update-containerd-1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ef07118 Vincent Demeester: containerd: 0.2.9 -> 1.0.1...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ElvishJerricco opened pull request #34030: Move packageSourceOverrides to haskellLib (master...move-package-source-overrides) https://git.io/vNElv
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<bananapeel> hello. i am on a foreign computer running macOS. it has virtual box installed on it, so i figured i would go ahead and get latest nixOS .ova image and use the default settings there. however, the machine seems to run unreasonably slowly. in trying to resolve this issue i tried to deviate from the default settings in the .ova container (disabled processor extensions, given it more cores, more memory, accelerated 3D). has anyone else
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<joepie91> bananapeel: disabling processor extensions is a very likely cause for slow virtualization
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<joepie91> (in general, not specific to NixOS)
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<bananapeel> i've tried to use it without changing the default though
<bananapeel> there is only one setting, which by default is active (which i tried), and it's the "Enable PAE/NX", accessible through virtualbox Settings --> System --> Processor
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