makefu changed the topic of #nixos-wiki to: Welcome to the *unofficial* nixos wiki | https://nixos.wiki | chat logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-wiki/
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<nixoswikibot> [[Qt]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3215&oldid=2732&rcid=3283 * LinArcX * (+719) Development with qt and qt creator
<nixoswikibot> [[Qt]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3216&oldid=3215&rcid=3284 * LinArcX * (+86) 
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<nixoswikibot> [[Garbage Collection]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3217&oldid=2616&rcid=3285 * Mth * (-60) not sure about these changes, review appreciated
<mthst> makefu: ^
<makefu> mthst: LGTM, thanks!
<mthst> makefu: maybe this page can be moved to e.g. "storage optimization", since the first and the last part aren't about GC?
<makefu> maybe this point should be the last of the page, not the first
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<mthst> makefu: i don't understand why nix-collect-garbage -d doesn't collect all the garbage
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<makefu> mthst: it will only collect dangling packages (no link to any environment or built package)
<makefu> for example you run nix build which creates a result file
<makefu> as long as you do not remove the result file, nix-collect-garbage -d will not collect the closure
<tilpner> It will also only remove things for your user
<tilpner> So run with root to clean system generations
<makefu> + what tilpner wrote :)
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<mthst> makefu: is it still "garbage" if a result file exists?
<makefu> it is not garbage if the result file still exists. try that: nix build pkgs.hello; nix-collect-garbage; rm result; nix-collect-garbage
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<samueldr> see also: nix-store --gc --print-roots
<samueldr> (and the manpage of nix-store, the "OPERATION --GC" section
<mthst> yes, i've read that
<mthst> but then it is technically incorrect to say that nix-collect-garbage -d doesn't collect all the garbage
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<mthst> sorry for being pedantic
<samueldr> you're right, it's not garbage if it's still rooted
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<mthst> bash syntax highlighting and the convention of using '#' as an indicator for root prompts are incompatible
<mthst> is there a solution?
<samueldr> not really :(
<samueldr> most syntax highlighters don't handle that, including the one used by the syntax highlight plugin
<mthst> so should i just use {{bc| ... }} instead?
<nixoswikibot> [[Template:Man]] !N https://nixos.wiki/index.php?oldid=3218&rcid=3286 * Mth * (+524) Created page with "<includeonly> <code title="man {{{sec}}} {{{1}}}">{{{1}}}({{{sec}}})</code> </includeonly> <noinclude> {{template}} This template is used to refer to {{ic|man}} manual pages,..."
<samueldr> I'm thinking {{bc|...}} might be painful when pipes a present; might be as simple to use the defaults for pre-formatted in mediawiki markup, or using <pre></pre>
<mthst> ok
<nixoswikibot> [[Garbage Collection]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3219&oldid=3217&rcid=3287 * Mth * (+267) 
<nixoswikibot> [[Garbage Collection]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3220&oldid=3219&rcid=3288 * Mth * (-123) 
<nixoswikibot> [[Garbage Collection]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3221&oldid=3220&rcid=3289 * Mth * (-5) 
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<nixoswikibot> [[Garbage Collection]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3222&oldid=3221&rcid=3290 * Mth * (-25) 
<mthst> what is the convention with page title capitalization?
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<Profpatsch> mthst: The first letter is always capitalized by mediawiki
<Profpatsch> Same with user names
<Profpatsch> We had somebody complaining for days.
<Profpatsch> Strange person
<samueldr> seems we decided on the past (or I?) on "Only the first word is capitalized" in titles
<samueldr> :/
<samueldr> (though section titles aren't generally the same as a "work"'s title)
<samueldr> isn't title case only for a "work"'s title?
<nixoswikibot> [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Mth * moved [[Garbage Collection]] to [[Storage optimization]]
<mthst> the page "Nix Expression Language" and also sections in "Application" use title case, and they are linked from the front page
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<samueldr> there's a bunch of articles that were imported from the first wiki, to the second, then to this one
<samueldr> (might be missing one?)
<samueldr> I'm not entirely sure either whether "Title Case for Articles" should be used or not, but the mediawiki styleguide prefers "sentence case for headers" while using Title Case for that header :$
<samueldr> I'm flummoxed!
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<mthst> haha
<mthst> may i convert all headers to sentence case then?
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<nixoswikibot> [[Storage optimization]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3225&oldid=3223&rcid=3292 * Mth * (-34) bash syntax highlighting makes root prompts look like comments
<mthst> makefu: why did nix-store --optimise become less useful?
<nixoswikibot> [[Storage optimization]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3226&oldid=3225&rcid=3293 * Mth * (+2) 
<makefu> mthst: afair because it has some serious performance impact in certain cases
<nixoswikibot> [[Template:Nix:option]] !N https://nixos.wiki/index.php?oldid=3227&rcid=3294 * Mth * (+341) Created page with "<includeonly>{{ic|nix:[https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#conf-{{{1}}} {{{1}}}]}}</includeonly> <noinclude> {{DISPLAYTITLE:Template:nix:option}} {{template}} Refer to a Nix option..."
<samueldr> ah laisse
<samueldr> nix:option pas nixos:option :)
<samueldr> sorry
<samueldr> listening to something in french just twisted my mind
<samueldr> mthst: sorry, I thought it was a duplicate of nixos:option, not nix:option
<samueldr> so don't mind me :)
<mthst> no worries
<mthst> by the way, do you have feedback on the output of that template? i'm not sure whether its a good idea to prepend 'nix:'
<samueldr> prefixing seems weird to me
<samueldr> considering how the nixos option is built to be fine in the flow of a sentence
<samueldr> like, I'd write "... by setting the {{nix:option|cores}} option to 42"
<mthst> oh. i was thinking of using it in <ref>s
<samueldr> ah, most of the templates I made are for in-line links, fluently included in sentences
<samueldr> (but are still fine in refs!)
<mthst> it would be practical here if nixos and nix had different logos
<nixoswikibot> [[Template:Man]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3228&oldid=3218&rcid=3295 * Mth * (+20) 
<nixoswikibot> [[Template:Nix:option]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3229&oldid=3227&rcid=3296 * Mth * (-4) 
<mthst> samueldr: i've removed the prefix for now
<nixoswikibot> [[Template talk:Nix:option]] !N https://nixos.wiki/index.php?oldid=3230&rcid=3297 * Mth * (+122) Created page with "== Confusion with [[Template:nixos:option]] == A small icon or prefix could be added to distinguish Nix and NixOS options."
<mthst> ...and mentioned this on the talk page
<samueldr> sadly, at a character-level standpoint, the nixos logo doesn't really scale wall (at least, with the blue colours)
<samueldr> might be a question of contrasts though
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<nixoswikibot> [[Storage optimization]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3231&oldid=3226&rcid=3298 * Mth * (+515) automatically run garbage collection whenever there is not enough space left
<nixoswikibot> [[User:Mth]] !N https://nixos.wiki/index.php?oldid=3232&rcid=3299 * Mth * (+20) Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:mth}}"
<nixoswikibot> [[User:Mth]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=3233&oldid=3232&rcid=3300 * Mth * (+5) 
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