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<gchristensen> hey paranoid friends
<gchristensen> what do y'all think about ZeroTier?
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<andi-> Sounds appealing just not a thing for me. I would rather do wireguard + babel + vxlan.. More configuration, more work but I know what I get :)
<andi-> Crypto they describe sounds okay but I think I looked at it a year ago and it did feel a bit centric.. Maybe that has changed/was a different thing.
<samueldr> andi-: centric?
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<andi-> samueldr: well it has well known nodes is what I meant to say. He asked for paranoid opinions. I guess you could say it is as centric as something like for.
<samueldr> ah yeah, centralized service
<andi-> s/for\./tor./
<samueldr> though, unverifiable if it's actually running (I think) the service is (was?) entirely OSS
<samueldr> (I have been using it, but am not paranoid enough to judge it as asked)
<andi-> I think it is a neat thing if you want to get stuff out of your way. Would probably not patch it to my access lan.
<andi-> And use e2e crypto :)
<andi-> Or transport between your services at least.
<flokli> andi-: that vxlan talk was pretty interesting btw: https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2018/program/#/event/vxlan-security-or-injection
<flokli> tldr: everything is broken, bad things happen
<LnL> vxlan across datacenters?
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