gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-officehours to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siR3pvmxFlU
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<gchristensen> today we'll be having robert h an domenkozar on office hours!
<gchristensen> talking about Hercules
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<gchristensen> domenkozar isn't in here
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<domenkozar[m]> aha :)
<domenkozar[m]> thanks worldofpeace
<worldofpeace> Yay 🥳 domenkozar here :)
<gchristensen> yay
<gchristensen> domenkozar[m]: I'm about to each lunch ,but want to go over some "pre-show" stuff soon
<domenkozar[m]> it starts in 3h right?
<gchristensen> yeah
<domenkozar[m]> well, 2:20 for us :)
<domenkozar[m]> ok, I'm going to eat meanwhile, ping me here if I'm needed meanwhile
<gchristensen> ok
<worldofpeace> (same situation on worldofpeace's side)
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<infinisil> Oh wouldn't it usually start in ~1 hours?
<worldofpeace> infinisil: see time converter link in https://github.com/worldofpeace/events/tree/master/office-hours
<worldofpeace> (link is in the 3:00 PM America/New_York time. text)
<infinisil> > ET = UTCShift "ET" (-5)
<{^_^}> ET defined
<infinisil> > ET
<{^_^}> "The time in ET is currently 11:17:18 (UTC -5)"
<infinisil> Ahhh, I mixed up 9pm with 19:00
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<worldofpeace> where did the function even come from infinisil ? (can builtins handle time too now :P)
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<infinisil> > :v UTCShift # defined it myself
<{^_^}> All bindings: ADT BRT CEST CET DKK EDT ET UTC UTCShift _add _assign _attrName _attrs _blue _bold _bool _bracket _concat _int _null _num _number _red _semi _set _show _string a a' aandb add allDeps array2list assign attr attrName attrs b bar bind bisectFloat bold boldcolors boldpalette bool botsnack bracket buildList builtinTypes builtinsbackup c cToF case codes coinflip colors compose composeAlt composeHack concat contents convert convertT
<infinisil> > :v UTCShift
<{^_^}> UTCShift = name: shift: "The time in ${name} is currently ${toHMSPretty (lib.mod (builtins.currentTime + shift * 60 * 60) (24*60*60))} (UTC ${lib.optionalString (shift > 0) "+"}${toString shift})"
<worldofpeace> you've got coolness in every corner I see infinisil
<roberth> those don't seem to be all bindings
<roberth> :v eval
<roberth> does silence mean not defined?
<worldofpeace> > :v eval
<{^_^}> eval = f: args: if builtins.isFunction f then (if args == [] then "not enough args" else (let result = f (lib.concatStringsSep " " args); in if builtins.isFunction result then eval (f (lib.head args)) (lib.tail args) else result)) else f
<roberth> makes sense :)
<gchristensen> office hours begins in 2 hours and 5 minutes :)
<aanderse> thats today! :o
<gchristensen> yep!
<aanderse> it keeps sneaking up on me
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<aanderse> gchristensen: was the zoom url released yet?
<gchristensen> same one every week
<gchristensen> technical difficulties
<aanderse> ah, thanks
<gchristensen> https://youtu.be/F_PjMKD3JA4 will be the live stream, but audio problems right now.
<gchristensen> I think the stream is working!
<LnL> yep
<gchristensen> thank. goodness.
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<tilpner> Question: domenkozar mentioned during the intro that Hercules can do a bunch of things more general CI can't do. Could you point out one or two?
<manveru> youtube has no audio btw
<gchristensen> manveru: it should ~now
<manveru> :)
<gchristensen> audio has been a thrilling problem this afternoon
<samueldr> For others, under "View Options" at the top, you can set the shared view as "fit to screen" if you don't see it in whole
<tilpner> *giant twitter bird*
<samueldr> nice FOUCs
<samueldr> Flash Of Unstyled Content
<samueldr> willing to bet the twitter image is an <svg /> or <img src="*.svg" /> in the DOM :)
<manveru> i think the page is in elm?
<samueldr> haven't checked, but I think it's likely from the interests of domen :)
<samueldr> if the <style /> (or <link />) tag is added by elm, it could do a FOUC
<manveru> yeah, possible... i prefer doing all style in elm directly though :P
<manveru> not very pragmatic though
<samueldr> (tbf, FOUCs are more of a finishing touch thing, while annoying, as long as everything else works, it's not an issue)
<manveru> yeah, nobody reads the docs anyway ;)
<manveru> j/k
<manveru> i had hercules running for a while now, but new releases don't build anymore :|
<gchristensen> anyone have PRs you'd like to look at?
<manveru> i'd just like to have some info about what's going on with the 19.09 release :)
<tilpner> If we need a PR, #70027 is blocking unstable
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/70027 (by ck3d, 5 days ago, open): make-disk-image: replace nixos-install by nix-env calls
<samueldr> likely to be network related
<infinisil> Aw jeez I missed office hours
<infinisil> Or the start anyways
<samueldr> gchristensen: cfp has been reopened
<samueldr> gchristensen: until the 12th
<samueldr> oh :)
<gchristensen> oooops
<samueldr> no worries
<gchristensen> :)
<gchristensen> I think the website says CFP is closed btw
<samueldr> I figure most who were on the call are here and can see that
<samueldr> you're right
<infinisil> samueldr: Why was it reopened? Too little talks?
<worldofpeace> I also want to note to the people who were present for the previous office-hours, it seemed to be very helpful to do things like reviewing PRs and such. We're thinking about having that in a separate function or rotating.
<samueldr> [02:48:01] <andi-> Not forcibly filling it up
<samueldr> [02:47:39] <andi-> A few talks were cancelled and if we can get someone else for those spots that would be great. Otherwise it will be a shorter day.
<samueldr> infinisil: ^
<domenkozar[m]> tilpner: one of the main things we can do is present insight into what's going on, but we're not leveraging that just yet
<infinisil> I see
<roberth> manveru: I'm surprised to hear that it doesn't build for you. We can help you via irc dm, e-mail or a github issue, whichever you like
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