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<das_j>
Does anyone know of proper documentation for the stuff in pkgs/top-level apart from the in-code comments and reading the entire thing?
<das_j>
Also pkgs/stdenv
<Mic92>
das_j: well there is documentation about stdenv high-level interfaces. Not so much about implementation details.
<Mic92>
in the manual
<domenkozar[m]>
Mic92: btw I've PMed you
<Mic92>
domenkozar[m]: mhm. Did not get anything...
<domenkozar[m]>
:/
<domenkozar[m]>
gchristensen: I've PMed you too :/
<domenkozar[m]>
what's going on, is Matrix having issues?
<domenkozar[m]>
I guess that was predicted in 1999
<das_j>
Mic92: Well okay so I'll have to read it :/
<Mic92>
domenkozar[m]: matrix <-> irc has known quirks. Especially if you use matrix.org, it's too crowded there.
<domenkozar[m]>
but not sending messages is really really bad
<domenkozar[m]>
moreover, at least let me know they are not sent
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<domenkozar[m]>
anyway, has anyone seen a definition of hermetic property?
<domenkozar[m]>
I'm unable to google it.
<Mic92>
domenkozar[m]: I think the intention of hermetic in this context here is that it should always provide the same evaluation input indepent of the machine.
<Mic92>
*evaluation output
<domenkozar[m]>
that's my interpretation too, but I was surprised to see that this term is almost not used
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<domenkozar[m]>
niksnut: I've sent you a PM, I hope you got it :(
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<niksnut>
domenkozar[m]: I didn't
<domenkozar[m]>
could you PM me
<domenkozar[m]>
it seems like that makes it work
<domenkozar[m]>
niksnut: did you get the link?
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<domenkozar[m]>
Received an error on chat.freenode.net: err_nononreg
<{^_^}>
#57477 (by Infinisil, 2 years ago, open): `nixos-rebuild --switch` too slow, tracking issue
<bennofs>
i feel kind of sad for my raspi sdcard, since I need to add swap before every nixos-rebuild
<srhb>
bennofs: Shall we take this to #nixos? I don't think this is -dev related just now :)
<colemickens>
signal boosting maisem_ from #nixos, can a nixpkgs maintainer approve this GHA for a first time nixpkgs contributor. the change looks safe to run CI on at least: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/120903
<colemickens>
I remember when flakes eval was fast. :/
<das_j>
colemickens: Isn't it fast anymore?
<gchristensen>
that button is super unfortunate ...
<colemickens>
das_j: I guess I shouldn't say without data, maybe I've just re-normalized to what average is and I'd hate to go back to stable, but I don't have "wow the cache must've helped there" feelings like I used to. Very subjective admittedly
<das_j>
Oh right
<srhb>
Was it ever fast? Like, without just caching?
<infinisil>
colemickens: The cache is pretty useless atm for me, since changing any file at all in the project I'm working on causes it to invalidate it
<colemickens>
infinisil: I was even granting that that might be happening and still wondering if it was doing anything -_-. Not trying to be super whiney, I'll still mostly happily wait for my evals.
<colemickens>
I even went out of my way to optimize it such that I evaluate once and capture both the drvPath and out that I need, rather than having to evaluate both since the second one still took so long
<colemickens>
that's a case where it should virtually be the identical eval too
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<catern>
is openssl.dev expected to depend on openssl.bin? that seems unintentional...?