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<immae> cole-h: I think I managed to correctly write the Makefile.am file (PR up to date). It’s a 4-lines file but I’m totally unfamiliar with the magic behind those automake things
<immae> (Also I made it so that the index.html would land at the same place as before in the output)
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<gchristensen> https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/877 lgtm anyone want to review also?
<{^_^}> hydra#877 (by immae, 1 hour ago, open): Add markdown files for documentation
<gchristensen> speak now or send a revert / fixup :P
<immae> 2 am (CET) might not be the best time to ask this kind of question 😀
<immae> But if you need to get it shipped quickly I guess reverting in case of issue is always an option
<gchristensen> no rush, but I see no reason to wait either :D
<immae> ok :)
<cole-h> LGTM! Thanks again immae++ for tackling this.
<{^_^}> immae's karma got increased to 32
<cole-h> :shipit:
<immae> gchristensen: will it deploy automatically? is there a place where I can follow it?
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<immae> @samueldr: Yes, I meant following the job that will generate it
<gchristensen> immae: nixos.org/hydra/manual/ will redirect to it ~shortly
<immae> Ah it’s quick, nice!
<samueldr> I wasn't entirely sure how it was setup, I had to check
<samueldr> and yes
<gchristensen> it seems hydra is chickening out on building itself at the moment
<immae> ha ha
<samueldr> it probably only has a sliver of shares
<samueldr> or uh...
<samueldr> 100000000 (85.64% out of 116763427 shares)
<gchristensen> I uh, fixed it
<gchristensen> :|
<gchristensen> :)
<gchristensen> moments like this I just don't understand hydra
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<immae> I’m wondering, why is nixos.org/hydra/manual/ redirecting to a build page, shouldn’t it do it under the hoods like other manual pages?
<gchristensen> hydra is a bit unloved
<gchristensen> and not really held up in esteem
<immae> Oh?
<gchristensen> yeaoh, not many people like to work on it, and it is hard to merge PRs there that are more than trivial
<immae> ok I see
<gchristensen> I work on it when I can, but it isn't so often. hopefully some of the testing work I've done this week could help
<samueldr> it was made to redirect to the build output because it was dropped as an "official product" of nixos the organization... from before the website rework
<samueldr> it's a thing, an internal tool that happens to be used externally too, AFAIUI
<gchristensen> I think that pretty much sums it up
<samueldr> IIRC for a while (before gchristensen was part of the community) there were reticence in even having a nixos module for hydra
<samueldr> (and before I too)
<gchristensen> I think some people still have that sentiment :)
<ajs124> I seem to remember eelco saying that putting hydra into nixpkgs was a mistake
<gchristensen> but they're assuaged by having ma27 maintain it
<samueldr> it's dependable, but not a shiny polished tool
<samueldr> it's the ol' farm pickup
<gchristensen> (with hundreds of millions of builds behind it)
<samueldr> the ol' farm pickup has millions of miles behind it!
<samueldr> it's a good quality, being a dependable tool, even if it's not showcase worthy
<immae> mdbook made its job :-)
<immae> (The result is the same as during my testings 😌)
<gchristensen> woohoo! thank you, immae!
<immae> Happy to help :)
<gchristensen> finally, rid of the docbook. that feels good.
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<immae> Yes
<immae> Now it’s time for bed
<immae> ’night
* gchristensen sets hydra back from 100000000 scheduling shares to just 100
<gchristensen> g'night immae , about time for me too :P
<samueldr> ah, I see, it only had 0% of the whole scheduling shares
<gchristensen> it'd be cool to have a script to rebalance the jobsets :)
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<rnhmjoj> did you know we have a perl.withPackages? it's relatively new so nixpkgs is still full of hacks to construct perl interpreters with a custom perl lib path
<rnhmjoj> currently working on fixing this
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<adisbladis> Anyone else that got bombarded by spam bots on IRC recently?
<adisbladis> Within the last day or so?
<adisbladis> I'm thinking if it's related to the supposed troll or not
<Taneb> Yup
<Taneb> Been happening all over freenode
<etu> It was mentioned in #nixos-chat earlier
<adisbladis> Ok
<etu> "/mode nick +R" changes your mode so only identified users can message you :)
<adisbladis> Some of the wording made me think that someone actually semi-targeted it
<adisbladis> etu: I don't want that in general. I do get a lot of actually interesting PMs from unregistered people
<etu> oh :/
<sterni> adisbladis: try +g then
<sterni> (you need to /accept I think which may be less noisy)
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<adisbladis> I can just ignore it those few times it's happening
<adisbladis> I was more interested to know if this was in any way targeted against the Nix community or not
<adisbladis> Some of the wording didn't feel random enough to be your regular spam
<srk> I see spam on bunch of unrelated channels as well
<b42> also getting a bunch of "race war"-themed nonsense on query and wondering what's that trying to achieve
<adisbladis> Most of it was just pure nonsense :P
<adisbladis> But some felt like a markov chain of race war type stuff interspersed with some things I've actually talked about in nixos related channels
<b42> also got what looks like part of windows exploit(?) yesterday https://paste.rs/dMA
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<gchristensen> would anyone be interested in giving this even a brief review? https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/876
<{^_^}> hydra#876 (by grahamc, 13 hours ago, open): Create an ephemeral PostgreSQL database and Nix store per test, split up tests.
<siraben> What's the best resource on learning about the Nix bootstrap process?
<siraben> Probably sparsely documented but if there's a general set of files to go through that'd be nice
<hexa-> gchristensen: you dropped out of -mods again
<gchristensen> my IRC client :(
<regnat[m]1> <gchristensen "would anyone be interested in gi"> gchristensen ++ I've wanted this so badly… you're my hero!
<gchristensen> Regnat[m]1: really? :)
<gchristensen> yay
<gchristensen> Regnat[m]1: check out this test I've beenworking on https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/compare/master...grahamc:test-runcommand#diff-c17e954fe292ec32112e40d9684686ff27071c896cea043874a59beb3851d914 where you can specify custom hydra config, and possibly nix config
<sterni> is the hydra restricted eval variant documented anywhere?
<sterni> allowed-uris etc. seems to be different from standard restricted-eval it seems to be
<regnat[m]1> gchristensen: Oh, that's pretty cool :)
<regnat[m]1> I can't say I have worked a lot with hydra, but having this would have really helped me getting started
<sterni> since it imposes further restriction on the anything goes as long as you have a hash I gathered from the nix manual for restricted-eval?!
<sterni> oh it's nix extraOptions
<gchristensen> Regnat[m]1: me too
<gchristensen> Regnat[m]1: hopefully this might inspire contributors to write tests with their new contributions :)
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<siraben> Can someone with a strong darwin machine try https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/113985#issuecomment-785021882 ?
<siraben> Aw, removal of flash completely? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112335
<{^_^}> #112335 (by lovesegfault, 2 weeks ago, merged): treewide: cleanup Adobe Flash Player
<gchristensen> flash is done for
<gchristensen> if you need flash, find an old version of nixpkgs with it :P
<siraben> I feel old now
<siraben> flash games were part of my childhood :P
<adisbladis> siraben: Time goes by... In a flash
<siraben> I barely remember 2020 coming and going
<gchristensen> yeah, flash was a big part of a lot of lives for a long time
<gchristensen> archive.org has a wasm thing to play flash games
<siraben> will flash emulators written in other languages be accepted in Nixpkgs?
<gchristensen> I don't see why not
<hexa-> if it isn't a walking security nightmare
<adisbladis> We already have gnash
<adisbladis> Which isn't great
<adisbladis> But it is a flash player
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<adisbladis> siraben: Apparently lightspark is also a thing
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<V> there's ruffle
<V> which is The Replacement
<V> and I think is what archive.org is using
<V> which is... already in nixpkgs
<V> because of course it is
<adisbladis> I just tried lightspark and it froze up on my test game
<adisbladis> Next up: ruffle
<rnhmjoj> sadly gnash is 100% abandoned: i brought back the package (which has been unmaintained+removed) but it's far from feature complete
<rnhmjoj> haven't tried ruffle yet
<adisbladis> So far the best results were had with lightspark
<adisbladis> Ruffle flickers quickly and the window dies
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<V> gnash is absolutely abandoned
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<ScottHDev5> Hello, I've been trying to reproduce this issue https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/114118 with a test but I'm not that good with networking. Here is the test so far https://gist.github.com/SCOTT-HAMILTON/f0e9c9c0c53d341c9048388831fea57a. Somehow the container's DNS can't resolve test.lan.
<{^_^}> #114118 (by davidak, 1 day ago, open): resolved don't use default dns server
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<srk> ScottHDev5: maybe firewall?
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<gchristensen> anyone want to make nix's GC no longer stop-the-world? :)
<samueldr> I know one way
<samueldr> might not work as well as one would hope: remove the GC
<niksnut> you mean the store GC?
<gchristensen> yeah
<eyJhb> Where is buildGoPackage defined?
<ScottHDev5> Disabling the firewall didn't work
<ScottHDev5> srk
<cole-h> eyJhb: 17557 buildGo116Package = callPackage ../development/go-packages/generic {
<cole-h> (buildGoPackage is currently aliased to buildGo116Package on master)
<srk> ScottHDev5: in container?
<eyJhb> cole-h: found it, thanks :D
<eyJhb> gchristensen: did you have any way to minimise the number of dependencies buildlayeredimage pulls in? ie. a Go build will pull in 43 MB of stuff
<gchristensen> change your builds to have fewer dependencies :)
<gchristensen> note: run-time dependencies, not build-time
<aanderse> if i wanted to add a new package set to nixpkgs who would the best people to talk to be? questions i might ask: does anyone want this package set in nixpkgs?
<eyJhb> gchristensen: This is all I have - https://termbin.com/0a2j so I am guessing it is comming from the buildGoPackage? Would just expect a static binary, and only having to have the single "main" file :/
<worldofpeace> ✨ samueldr
<{^_^}> samueldr's karma got increased to 323
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<ScottHDev5> srk So I'm sure it's not the firewall as I get an answer. For further debugging the coredns I need to get it's logs but I can only make it to output to stdout, I'd like to make it output to stderr because stdout isn't dumped to the terminal by the test driver. So I've looked at the code and couldn't find a way to get the driver to output stderr
<ScottHDev5> *to output stdout
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