worldofpeace_ changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: #nixos-dev NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS stable: 20.03 ✨ https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-03-release/6785 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 19.09 RMs: disasm, sphalerite; 20.03: worldofpeace, disasm | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<kalbasit> clever: setting boehmgc to null breaks the nix derivation
<kalbasit> configure: error: Package requirements (bdw-gc) were not met:
<clever> things may have changed since i last did it
<kalbasit> I guess I'll go back to nix stable for now until I hear back on the bug
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<jtojnar> do we have https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-user-dirs-gtk installed as part of some derivation?
<jtojnar> I vaguely remember seeing the dialogue but it might have been on my Ubuntu box
<jtojnar> worldofpeace^
<jtojnar> maybe integrated into initial setup (though I remember the dialogue not following HIG)
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<worldofpeace> Jan Tojnar: I don't think so. I believe Pantheon/elementary wanted this but I've actually removed it from their session. I wasn't sure if that program was deprecated
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<worldofpeace> hmm, it seems fedora prefers it https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f34.xml.in#_2532
<worldofpeace> that thing always confused me
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<drakonis> wait
<drakonis> they've forked into f34?
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<worldofpeace> drakonis: fedora's release schedule involves a lot of branches from the jump
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<worldofpeace> Does anyone know if there's a loose timeline to when the next (major) release of nix will be? Asking for someone in #nixos
<worldofpeace> niksnut: ?
<drakonis> worldofpeace: i'm aware, i was running f33 before returning
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<drakonis> i had completely forgotten about their schedule
<worldofpeace> tbh we could learn a thing or two from them
<drakonis> yowza
<drakonis> we definitely could
<drakonis> we had 20.03 release a month and a half after march
<drakonis> linux kernel devs cracking down on gpl shims
<drakonis> oof nvidia owners
<worldofpeace> yeah, a lot of what goes on there is because they clearly have more resources
<drakonis> they have red hatters maintain some bits in there
<MichaelRaskin> Hmm, how is ZFS classified from taint point of view?
<drakonis> tainted
<drakonis> this isnt very good for zfs
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<worldofpeace> I can't help but giggle when I read that
<drakonis> gpl condom
<drakonis> ho ho
<drakonis> this will break nvidia as of 5.9
<drakonis> i wish i had amd
<drakonis> i thought nvidia had a big foss reveal talk?
<MichaelRaskin> I need my nVidia card to work, because Lenovo cannot even into connecting ports reasonably, but fortunately I am a happy nouveau user
<drakonis> either way, it'll be bad for zfs and nvidia
<drakonis> might force nvidia into sending code up
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<cole-h> More likely nvidia says "just stay on 5.8 or below lmao"
<samueldr> I would think they'd start shipping out-of-tree patches before forcing users to stay on an older kernel
<samueldr> after all, it's a policy from the kernel team, not a legal obligation
<samueldr> nvidia's lawyers may get involved internally to validate it indeed is fine
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<drakonis> it is set in the kernel actually
<drakonis> its not a policy anymore
<drakonis> seems like it is a result from facebook submitting netgpu patches that are tightly coupled with nvidia's drivers
<samueldr> drakonis: maybe I wasn't clear, but what I meant is that there is no difference in the legal standing of the GPL, they have codified their policy in code, but since it's the GPL, nothing stops end-users, or other parties to distribute a modified version
<samueldr> thus, a (all-but-forked) version where this is worked around in ways that goes against the policy
<drakonis> ah i see
<drakonis> hmm, i'd like to bring up a topic again
<drakonis> building an events daemon for nix
<drakonis> reducing or removing entirely the reliance on systemd for a variety of tasks
<drakonis> for dealing with all the things outside of nix's scope
<drakonis> ie: i've been looking a way to rotate my virtual tabletop's game worlds on a set schedule
<samueldr> NixOS or nix?
<samueldr> or uh, Nixpkgs maybe
<drakonis> any of them, really.
<drakonis> as i was looking to use the nix language to define these things
<samueldr> from what I understand it's definitely not something that relates to Nix (the builtins and the daemon)
<drakonis> right right
<drakonis> so, NixOS it is then
<drakonis> remember when i linked mgmt?
<drakonis> its that but configurable in nix lang instead of go
<drakonis> a weird puppet like language
<drakonis> there's a really good idea there
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<infinisil> Um question: By the rfcs readme, the author cannot be part of the shepherd team, that makes sense
<infinisil> But does that mean that the author can't participate in the shepherd meetings?
<infinisil> Because I think it would be weird if they couldn't
<infinisil> niksnut Mic92 spacekookie worldofpeace sphalerite <- Steering committee pings for above question ^^
<colemickens> PTAL, This enables screensharing for Firefox users in Wayland: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/84233
<{^_^}> #84233 (by colemickens, 18 weeks ago, open): firefox: add pipewire patch for wayland users
<worldofpeace> infinisil: um, I would say the author should absolutely participate in the shepherd meetings
<worldofpeace> isn't that how the author figures out what changes need to be made?
<infinisil> That makes sense
<alexarice[m]> colemickens: Would it help if I tested this, and would I have to build this myself to test it?
<colemickens> alexarice: The last comment in the thread includes instructions on how to pull a pre-built copy :)
<colemickens> And yes, any feedback is appreciated. Even just a "yeah it works" is helpful in this area, imo.
<alexarice[m]> colemickens: ah, I am clearly not good a reading
<alexarice[m]> I'll check it out tomorrow if I remember, out of interest how long does it take to build?
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<worldofpeace> infinisil: IIRC it should read like the author participates, though it's a fuzzy memory
<colemickens> if you don't use my cache, it will take a while. my 2.5-yr old quad-core machine took an hour roughly?
<alexarice[m]> colemickens: I might give it a go at building as I have a relatively new cpu, had just heard things about firefox taking a *lot* of ram to build
<infinisil> worldofpeace: Thanks for confirming :)
<colemickens> alexarice: oh, this machine does have 64GB so I didn't have to worry about htat
<colemickens> I don't know what I was doing when I built this machine tbh
<alexarice[m]> colemickens: I thought my 16GB was good
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<sphalerite> infinisil: yep, the author will typically participate :)
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