<ekleog>
oh so I'm curious if you already researched it, approx. how much does that stuff cost?
<gchristensen>
10's of thousands lower bound
<simpson>
Basically you need either a solid investment plan, a small business loan, or a willingness to gamble your savings.
<gchristensen>
^
<ekleog>
yeah indeed, that's a lot :/ (and I guess that's for short-distance stuff? I was thinking of things like the village my grandparents live in, where the connection is almost inexistent and there seem to be little willingness from operators to deploy anything better… but for that price with the ~10-20 houses the village counts, it'd just never pay off :/)
<gchristensen>
no, long-distance line-of-sight isn't so bad
<gchristensen>
renting space on 1 or 2 towers isn't so bad... but if you need more than that ...
<ekleog>
hmm should investigate more, I guess… yet one more project on the todo-list :D
<gchristensen>
your mission: get internet to Lenox (a nearby town) from Albany (west) or Springfield (east)
<zybell_>
Or both
<ekleog>
oh nice, for $1500 + 3 towers I can connect my grandparent's village at 1 shared Gbps :D assuming there *are* towers at the places I want to place an antenna, obviously)
<ekleog>
(assuming I can get 1Gbps on the nearby city, but this should be possible)
<ekleog>
oh wow, yours looks like a hard problem, so many hills
<zybell_>
So many relay locs
<ekleog>
hmm how do you add a relay with this website? I can find only a way to have one base station and multiple satellite ones
<zybell_>
satellite+router+satellite=relay
<ekleog>
yeah but I can't figure out how to make more than 2 steps, and can't figure out a 3-towers 2-links path from lenox to springfield (couldn't find albany with the search field :°)
<gchristensen>
I'm not sure this site supports that many
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<MichaelRaskin>
ekleog: yes, I probably have mentioned Fossil and Pijul.
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: [h] for j sounds completely normal Spanish or Portuguese…
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: it _is_ likely that Pijul would be slow on Nixpkgs — being faster than Darcs doesn't mean it is actually fast on such large projects.
<MichaelRaskin>
ekleog: what distance is there? Even smaller Ubiquity devices could give you quite a lot of range at 100Mbit/s, for example.
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<sphalerite>
heh, playing with a solaris system that has OpenCSW on it. Not even gcc4 and gcc5 can be installed in parallel on there D:
<makefu>
like in the stone ages!
<sphalerite>
yep
<sphalerite>
meh, just using gcc5 instead of gcc4 did not magically make nix build
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<ekleog>
~50km, don't think that'd be really possible (esp. given there's a “mountain” range in the 50km, so I had to go around it with a relay)
<ekleog>
oh he isn't there anylonger
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<clever>
zybell_: there are also sudo flags to check if sudo has been unlocked, so my script can just run sudo normally, then test to see if you unlocked things, then sudo something more malicious
<clever>
zybell_: so it will only prompt when it normally would have
<zybell_>
clever Your evil sudo script may fool me if I run sudo from cmdline, but you must install it into *my* home first, or into a systemdir, which I assume needs root already. The script in question (the linked one) uses a special entry in sudoers that is specific for that script only, and does not unlock anything (If it does->bug in sudo)
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