<irminsul>
samueldr: just built, flashed, then manually resized a mobile nixos image that doesn't do resizing on boot. wayyyyy faster boot
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<irminsul>
off the pinephone sd card, 10 seconds from power button to logo, logo goes away at 35sec, pointer appears at 45sec, xfce panels by 1min, background and desktop & keyboard by 1min 20s
<irminsul>
I was waiting minutes before the logo with the old setup
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<samueldr>
irminsul: on sd, right? I know the speed is day and night sd vs. emmc for me
<samueldr>
right, you said "on sd" lol
<samueldr>
I believe it must be the forced (twice) fsck
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<samueldr>
and if the resizing was smart in detecting a no-op, it would help, and also that forced second fsck, which I believe came to be needed at one point due to something weird with the fs creation
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<PirBoazo>
Helo,
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<PirBoazo>
Do you think it is possible to launch a wm as mate or xfce on RPI3B ?
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<PirBoazo>
Actualy when i start the xserver the raspi hang.
<PirBoazo>
what trace would be interesting to analyze ?
<DigitalKiwi>
i think it is possible yes
<DigitalKiwi>
i have plasma5 on my 3b+
<PirBoazo>
what is the displaymanager ?
<PirBoazo>
that you use
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<DigitalKiwi>
sddm
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<PirBoazo>
ok i shall try , this afternoon
<DigitalKiwi>
i was having problems with hanging too i had to change some settings
<angerman>
Anyway, I ended up patching uboot to 115200, and setting for the kernel as well, and voila we have something that works; even though of course it's not as fast, but does that really matter for debugging over a serial port?
<simpson>
Oh rad, TIL.
<angerman>
I'll file this under shit i wish i didn't know.
<simpson>
Yeah, for debugging on a tty, it's fine. But it's funny how often just needing a tty turns into needing to send over a bootloader~
<angerman>
fair. I guess I could have gone for 921600, but then the bl31 blob would have spewed garbage.
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<simpson>
Yeah. I think that you're right to just stick it to 115200; whatever works.
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<thefloweringash>
oh, this is one of those things that bugs me
<thefloweringash>
my cp2102 does up to ~4mbit, iirc, but the linux kernel cripples it by maxing it out at 1mbit
<thefloweringash>
I think it's a regression as of ~5.0
<thefloweringash>
the best part is that it silently caps it, so it worked on one computer using a 4.x kernel, but didn't work on another computer using a 5.x kernel :-(
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<angerman>
thefloweringash: ha, my host is macOS :-)
<angerman>
So I’m usually only targeting Linux.
<thefloweringash>
oh, should just work then :-)
<angerman>
Yea. I need a new ftdi cable though. One ftdi and on cp2101 down.
<angerman>
I’ll just keep buying in duplicates now.
<thefloweringash>
will we need to make a nix-darwin-aarch64 channel soon? :-)
<angerman>
Darwin should “just work”. It doesn’t always now, but conceptually there should
<angerman>
be no difference. Hence I’d be against another channel.
<thefloweringash>
heh, wasn't an entirely serious suggestion :-)
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<angerman>
There are clearly some limitations, but we should aim to make them go away (where possible).
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<angerman>
On-the-fly translation of Linux and Mac binaries :-)
<angerman>
There are actually projects that do that. Darling and I can’t remember the Linux on Mac one. But the lunch on Mac one has some fundamental bug somewhere.
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<angerman>
Did anyone try to cross compile the linux kernel? (E.g. create an sdImage on macOS?)
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<srk>
yup, last time I've had to use staging due to few packages but it works in general
<angerman>
I'll have to try that again then... last time it kept failing...
<DigitalKiwi>
samueldr: do you have your helios yet?